zealot-class

[grizzled aspen]

Taxe performs poorly on paper but it's still a good weapon due to your ability to unfuck bad situations with good mobility.

[acoustic dune]

tldr good mobility is scary

[spare talon]

on paper
look at the melee damage

[grizzled aspen]

Also on this, the only reason why chorus has gold toughness right now is because we are forced to take it to progress in the tree further.

If we did not have that forced 1 point tax then I doubt you would see people use it for gold toughness, especially if there could be a dps option.

[carmine falcon]

i watched most of this game
the entire killfeed was just your name

[mint brook]

then if no one takes it might as well rework it

[acoustic dune]

having a offensive chorus would be great me think

[mint brook]

like one way or another

that thing sorta has to go the way i see it

[spare talon]

the tactical axe is bad though

[plucky gate]

would rather they just rework how golden toughness itself works

[carmine falcon]

so bad

[acoustic dune]

oi lemme enjoy chorus

[spare talon]

it sucks and should be buffed to duelling sword levels

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rage-gif-8504008861365887604

[visual stream]

Gold toughness is fine with a long cooldown and CDR being tuned down

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, on paper, it performs poorly. How many hits does it take to drop a crusher or a mauler? Even with cara + elites?

[carmine falcon]

who made reginald use shock maul man

bro was immortal but couldnt a kill a thing

lol

[jagged cradle]

wtf did you do to yourself

[grizzled aspen]

You just seem to forget, Cole, that you are cracked as all hell.

[spare talon]

that was me by accident

[grizzled aspen]

Blame @acoustic dune

[spare talon]

i was in queue to join the next game

[grizzled aspen]

I have been yassified.

[jagged cradle]

You did it to yourself don’t gaslit me

[spare talon]

and i said "ill run shock maul" and he said he would too, and i clarified i was joking and was gonna run taxe, but he didnt see that

[acoustic dune]

the 4 horse man has been created

[carmine falcon]

intresting weapon but god damn bro couldnt kill a thing with it

[acoustic dune]

i have doom this era

[carmine falcon]

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

You do not slay, queen. 💅

Chat, kill this man immediately.

[spare talon]

so he mentioned at the start that i betrayed him cuz i wasnt running shock maul

[acoustic dune]

the era of yasspocalypse

[jagged cradle]

I’d rather be put down then repeat what you said

[acoustic dune]

dont make me yassify you

[grizzled aspen]

Coward.

[mint brook]

honest question, what could be a fun replacement for chorus? Like let us forget compeltely about gold toughness

[spare talon]

but i mentioned it cuz i have been using recently and it is fun, ran some duos with it
but its entirely true that its killing power severely underperforms

[acoustic dune]

more stagger

[jagged cradle]

I DONT consent

[grizzled aspen]

Well, first off, you'd need to straighten the trees out, which would put chorus on the preacher side, and then we wouldn't have issues with it.

Literally just swap chastise and chorus.

[carmine falcon]

yeah agreed
dont have much experience with it but it felt like i was tickling things and this is just normal damnation/auric

[fleet zealot]

culprit

[acoustic dune]

your pfp is public domain

[fleet zealot]

caught red peeted

[acoustic dune]

i give nada

[mint brook]

so lets say we keep them where they are

What now

[jagged cradle]

I would really prefer you didn’t

[grizzled aspen]

We do a zealout tree rework, where we put chorus on the left, where it should be. :)

[carmine falcon]

you make crusher do the thug shake tho so epic weapon

[frosty herald]

cole you are using taxe with zealot and scrier psyker

ofc its gonna perform well

[grizzled aspen]

My point with this is chorus isn't inherently a bad ability.

The issue with it is you gimp yourself so fucking hard with how it is currently.

Mandatory point tax and no offense.

[mint brook]

yes but i am not looking into that, i am looking into specifically reworking chorus, where we have flame pulses as the mandatory node

[grizzled aspen]

You rely entirely on your teammates.

[mint brook]

and then left and right need to be two choices people would enjoy taking

[grizzled aspen]

No, no mandatory anything.

Begone with your mandatory point tax.

[acoustic dune]

give it bleed aura or whatever and or flames
and or both

[mint brook]

hey, ogryn gets it as well

[spare talon]

this was one of the auric boss maels i did with it
i had agni smaul and agri revolver and ballhole had dclaw and an infernus laspistol

[grizzled aspen]

No they don't lol.

[mint brook]

there is nothign wrong with mandatory nodes

[frosty herald]

sneed maul

[grizzled aspen]

In fact taunt is going to be better because the node that makes it work great is better than pathing through a crap passive.

[mint brook]

dont gaslight me

[carmine falcon]

lemme guess majority of the dmg was done with the guns lmao

[grizzled aspen]

It's 1 point for all abilities.

Look at the cost to get to the bottom.

It's the same.

[plucky gate]

ogryn actually lets you path around

not that you would

[mint brook]

then we fix it that way

[grizzled aspen]

No, then you'd be introducing even more point tax into an already taxed to hell tree.

[plucky gate]

the nodes are actually good so you'd grab it anyways but it's not mandatory

[grizzled aspen]

The point to be made is less point tax.

[acoustic dune]

am i the only one whom genuinely enjoy chorus?

[mint brook]

... we are either talking past each other or that makes no sense

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, chorus requires an extra point compared to chastise and shroud to reach the same position in the tree. You agree with this, yes?

[mint brook]

so first you say the cost to the bottom is the same on ogryn, correct me there, but when i say that we fix zealots tree with that same idea, it would be even more point tax?

[spare talon]

of boss damage?

or all damage

you can see the difference in melee and ranged damage in the scoreboard there

[grizzled aspen]

I am of the opinion that this mandatory point be removed so as to lessen the burden of taxing the player on their ability choice.

What I am getting from you is that you wish to add a point below both chastise and shroud to bring them in line with chorus.

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out
what if there was more then one choice of tax node?

[grizzled aspen]

So that you remove this point tax by taxing other abilities.

[grizzled aspen]

This could be acceptable but then I would prefer it be standardized across all 3 abilities.

[fleet zealot]

smaul isn't bad it's just mid and lacks a niche besides being a bulwark opener

but give epic_cole and his buddies a mid weapon

and they will figure out the best way to make it viable

[acoustic dune]

tbh i would be fine without the golden toughness having a choice to get like bleed aura and or burn aura would slap

[grizzled aspen]

Bleed, no.

Middle tree should be about fire and martyrdom, imo.

Right should be about bleed.

[acoustic dune]

fair

no one take side node for chorus right now since it suck ass

kinda wish i get a cool skill for chorus

[grizzled aspen]

Here's a thought that would horrendously piss off the entire community, put cdr talents further up in the tree, make them lock each other, and then put until death underneath the reworked martyrs purpose.

[acoustic dune]

SINCE I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHOM ACTUALLY ENJOY CHORUS

perhaps 3 path that is lock after

[fleet zealot]

Did nvidia just push a driver update that killed my pc

No fucking way

[carmine falcon]

yep i didnt fully read it before commenting my bad

good numbers

[acoustic dune]

with one burn
other more toughness
and one more less cooldown on chorus or smth

make it a lite chorus

[fleet zealot]

I was just installing the latest driver and the screen has been black for minutes now

Im scared to reset it lest i corrupt my drivers

[acoustic dune]

anyhow imma go grind havoc me think

i want the funny black armor

[fleet zealot]

Someone who is computer nerd help me

[spare talon]

shock mauls elite kill times are just slow enough to be noticable and make you think "man this is slow"
shock mauls horde clear times are just slow enough to be noticable and make you think "man this is slow"
and this is just in damnation

[plucky gate]

I think a damage amp on enemies hit by chorus might be fun but at that point i'm stealing ideas from ogryn taunt

[fleet zealot]

okay i restarted it and it working

[plucky gate]

or maybe just make the damage buff while chorusing node better

[acoustic dune]

tbh if they fix it

[plucky gate]

make it more gradual, giving it a buff per pulse instead of only on 5(6 or 7 because fatshark)

[acoustic dune]

i would see like

1 person use it

[tawdry leaf]

banned

[carmine falcon]

my experience pretty much

neat weapon but in a game where killing everything fast af is a must

it just feels out of place

[acoustic dune]

is the shock maul just a shitty smike?

[carmine falcon]

its more fun

[frosty herald]

Jesus christ

[spare talon]

this is what ive noticed with all the things ive fucked around with

[frosty herald]

Lala barina dual blades are insane

[stone fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1349705273769463910/image.png?ex=67daa9fd&is=67d9587d&hm=b18c1f9d6e55b6581dfed6ed331e96a5f069222950dbc6d8d564cef8ca240b81&
give this to zealot NOW

[carmine falcon]

lol

tbh not even comparing it to meta and optimized stuff

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/metaverse-zuckerberg-zuck-mark-zuckerberg-meta-gif-23714532

[carmine falcon]

i just like weapons that kill fast

[spare talon]

and this is where the shock maul is

[mint brook]

left crit, middle burn, right bleed

[plucky gate]

hi cole, is autopistol gonna be op next patch?

[carmine falcon]

one of the weapons of all time 🔥

[spare talon]

not anywhere near OP, but itll be usable i think

[plush estuary]

usable rn

[spare talon]

itll still be in the underperformers but will be fun instead of both underperforming and not being fun

[plush estuary]

it is fun

😔

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out

[plucky gate]

If they ever rework zealot tree to have less pathing stuff around tknives, i'll make more autopistol builds

[acoustic dune]

what if chorus

explode

[stone fern]

i want punishment removed with a +1 toughness node

[plucky gate]

as it is, i kinda wanna bring autopis for maniac ragers and weak specialists but like why bother if tknives are gonna handle it?

[north sedge]

They should make every node punishment

[plucky gate]

replace second wind with punishment

[acoustic dune]

what if martyrdom

[stone fern]

marty is fine no nerfs pls just fix the cdr

[spare talon]

every node OLD punishment

[grizzled aspen]

It should be strength but otherwise yeah it's fine.

[stone fern]

if marty gave strength instead of damage i fear it would be too much tbh

[mint brook]

do you guys like the idea of high risk nodes?

[grizzled aspen]

You do know that the only difference would be like, cleave, right?

[spare talon]

and impact

[stone fern]

like what?

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nXdz348_oe4?si=8Tmp7IXyX92JqsnE

ferret burp

[stone fern]

ye thats exactly why

[mint brook]

nodes that gives more than normal but come at downsides?

[fleet zealot]

and stagger

[stone fern]

ehhhhhhhhhh idk

[grizzled aspen]

Stagger, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't matter much.

[fleet zealot]

stagger can be pretty impactful on a few weapons to let them hit stagger BPs on ragers and maulers

[spare talon]

very incorrect

[plucky gate]

well it would be multiplicative with damage bonuses like perks

[spare talon]

if it can reach a threshold for a weapon, it can suddenly make certain enemies trivial

[grizzled aspen]

What, other than ragers, do you need to stagger consistently?

[plucky gate]

so it'd be a bit more damage

[fleet zealot]

pre nerf punishment let chain axe mk4 stagger ragers and maulers on heavies which made it ridic sleeper

[stone fern]

nah hes right either a weapon staggers or it doesnt stagger buffs are kind of a waste

[carmine falcon]

relic blade and crusher made me staggerpilled
ragers are a joke to me

[spare talon]

maulers
crushers
bulwarks
reapers

impact bonuses can reach breakpoints on these

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, no, zealout can just kill that shit lol.

[plush estuary]

when was stagger zealot only?

[fleet zealot]

true if you only use ds4 and have your special unbound

[stone fern]

why shouldnt it stagger them on heavies?

[grizzled aspen]

Reaper 1shot on chastise poke without unyielding or elite buffs with rb go brrr.

[fleet zealot]

wdym

[carmine falcon]

its so much easier to deal with a rager pack when they're not wombo combing your ass

[spare talon]

now consider any weapon that isnt duelling sword

[mint brook]

stuff like this

[grizzled aspen]

Otherwise you can 2shot.

[fleet zealot]

usually maulers and ragers won't be stopped by just one heavy from a sweep,

[grizzled aspen]

Stars are not lore friendly.

Other 2 nodes are cool though.

[stone fern]

why is staggering them on heavies op? i feel like the chainaxe should stagger them on heavies without punishment

[grizzled aspen]

Would be sick if you could use both.

[fleet zealot]

vold

[fleet zealot]

it was the difference between staggering okay, the first enemy hit when ramped up

vs you can literlaly ifght infinite maulers/ragers

because they couldn't fight back

[fleet zealot]

also old punishment numbers were insane

it was like 150%

[mint brook]

they are

[grizzled aspen]

I stand corrected.

[stone fern]

also tbh TBH ragers should either lose the speed buff or stagger easier

[mint brook]

yes?

[stone fern]

theyre kinda not fun to melee now

[fleet zealot]

that's much better than your shroudfield rework, good job

[mint brook]

how?

[grizzled aspen]

Wdym "how"? I was fairly certain they weren't lore friendly, you pulled a source, now I am corrected.

Pretty simple how that works, methinks.

[fleet zealot]

tho i think the

first upgrade

[stone fern]

🤔 id be okay with it

[fleet zealot]

isn't good

[mint brook]

it literally says throwing stars or are you trolling me?

[grizzled aspen]

Ragers are fine right now, imo, as long as they don't all decide to fuck one person.

[spare talon]

they can be staggered easily
you just need to actually hit those breakpoints, some weapons do innately with certain attacks like combat and tactical axes, or you need to run impact bonuses like with shock maul, or you need to use special activations

[fleet zealot]

it's a figure of speech

[grizzled aspen]

Do you not know what being corrected means? You corrected me, I was wrong.

[spare talon]

if by "staggering easily" you mean able to be staggered like a bruiser, that would trivialize them

[fleet zealot]

frog "stands corrected"

[stone fern]

🙄 oh yeah let me just get an impact perk

[grizzled aspen]

I stand, corrected.

[stone fern]

its so easy

[stone fern]

they almost always do tho

[fleet zealot]

clad the point is impact in certain scenarios on certain weapons becomes silly

[mint brook]

doesnt "i stand corrected" mean that you are still right about them not being lore friendly?

[fleet zealot]

no

[plucky gate]

no

[fleet zealot]

lol

[grizzled aspen]

No, that means I am admitting I am wrong and that you are right.

[stone fern]

without throwing knives ragers are a massive pain

[fleet zealot]

it's a saint patrick miracle

[grizzled aspen]

Chat, kill this one

[mint brook]

i just googled it ... well, now i stand corrected

[carmine falcon]

clad suffering from thammer problems

[stone fern]

yeah i agree but many things shouldnt need that to stagger an enemy in an emergency

[spare talon]

i stand (i am in a position of) corrected (being proved wrong)

[stone fern]

THAMMER BUFFS SOON

[mint brook]

my whole life was a lie bro

i will submit myself to the black arch now

[stone fern]

ironhelm is gonna get buffed AFFIRM 🙏

[fleet zealot]

when somoene doens't get the western figure of speech

[carmine falcon]

thammer horde clear buff its coming my uncle works at fatshark he told me its coming

[spare talon]

many things HAVE the ability to stagger them in an emergency dude

[plucky gate]

i just rely on fotf for rager stagger and pray i kill them before it ends

[spare talon]

like they have that BAKED In

[fleet zealot]

anyways we should all listen to a ferret burp

[stone fern]

the clear is fine

i just want carapace damage buffed on ironhelm 😭

thats all i want

[mint brook]

i basically always do, this is one of those occasions i am severely wrong and i am embarassed, legit

[plucky gate]

is cara a problem with ironhelm?

[mint brook]

sorry for that one @grizzled aspen

[plucky gate]

been a while since i've used it

[stone fern]

stagger 4 coming right at you without chastise?

[stone fern]

you pretty much need chastise to one tap a crusher

[plucky gate]

this is why you use crucis

i'm surprised ironhelm isn't enough with thrust though

i thought it was

[stone fern]

the other issue is that its lights are pretty much unusable and still kinda weak when empowered

[stone fern]

nope

[mint brook]

so, say i am introducint reworks like this across the whole right tree, where you get an up for a down, would you guys aggree?

[fleet zealot]

no

[plucky gate]

a what

[fleet zealot]

there is very few trade off talents

[mint brook]

typo, right tree

[plucky gate]

oh

[fleet zealot]

talent that has negative and postive

[mint brook]

mainly right tree i meant, apologies

[spare talon]

ds can stagger in quick succession with the special
crucis lights have enough impact to stagger them
you can stagger ragers with dclaw parries
rashad push attacks can stagger multiple ragers at once
any tac axe heavy or push attack staggers any rager it hits
relic blade activated heavy sweeps will stagger ragers

[plucky gate]

so like empyric resolve

[spare talon]

all of these are baked in

methods of dealing with multiple ragers

[fleet zealot]

doesn't matter what tree, with how fatshark has talents, trade off talents are not used often for a reason

you can go look over the current trees+ ogryn's new tree

[spare talon]

and you can use all of them to deal with multiple cuz you can DODGE TOO

YOU CAN DODGE THE RAGERS

[fleet zealot]

and count the trade off talents with 1 hand

[plucky gate]

I mean i wouldn't mind if they existed

[stone fern]

the only things i would play out of that are rashad, relic and crucis

[fleet zealot]

ehh i don't like empyric resolve personally but they shouldn't be the whole branch

[visual stream]

Cara damage is fine though

[fleet zealot]

like deadshot or ogryn's new deadshot-lite

[stone fern]

i dont enjoy them being doge backwards shoot kind of enemies

[stone fern]

no ur wrong

[fleet zealot]

draining stam is a downside, but it gives a reasonable but also unique benefit

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out

[plucky gate]

if there was like, 2 or 3 scattered in each tree, wouldn't really be a problem as long as you can path around them

[acoustic dune]

what if shovel

for zealot?

[stone fern]

CHAINSHOVEL

[fleet zealot]

empyric resolve gives a unique downside (less toughness generation) and a rare stat (less peril generated)

[visual stream]

Shotgunners and gunners have an empowered L1 breakpoint that is kinda easy to reach

[fleet zealot]

i'd love it

[acoustic dune]

and theres a new blessing that is just a pan sound

[stone fern]

trappers dont

err

[frosty herald]

Yassify epic coal

[stone fern]

they do

[visual stream]

Trappers should fold instantly true

[stone fern]

but its still kinda weak on maniac

[visual stream]

But I feel Ironhelm is in a good place rn

[spare talon]

i dont see what this statement has to do with the fact that all of the weapons i mentioned can easily stagger ragers, which is in direct conflict with your original statement

[stone fern]

the carapace damage is weak

[acoustic dune]

@spare talon wouldnt let me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxk1syuf5lo

shovel make this sound

[stone fern]

im not playing them rn

[plucky gate]

I think ragers are exactly the kind of threat that they're meant to be

[visual stream]

The one and only thing Ironhelm can't deal with better than many weapons in the right hands is 20 ragers at once and probably 20 bulwarks at once

[spare talon]

and this directly ignores the fact that i already mentioned that you have methods of dealing with them in melee, they were designed that way
saying ragers are only "dodge back and shoot" is only saying that you dont actually know how to fight them

[acoustic dune]

just shoot the rager

and or time your shove

attack

its not that hard

[stone fern]

if theyre really meant to be dealt with in melee then why cant all melee weapons deal with them?

[mint brook]

so keep the tradeoff perks to a modest minimum

[stone fern]

maulers can be pushed around very easily with pushes alone

[spare talon]

yes shooting them is an option
but theyre melee enemies, they have to be able to be dealt with in melee if it comes down to it
and weapons were designed to have an answer in mind

[visual stream]

Maulers are easy to get the ball rolling on and crushers are the same when you know how to consistently set up the kill

[mint brook]

i just want you to really be emphasised to NOT pick ranged weapons on the right tree basically

[stone fern]

its mainly crushers im pissed about with ironhelm

[visual stream]

On IJ at least it feels pretty balanced

Maybe martyrdom thammer suffers tho I'm not sure

[stone fern]

thats like saying i need a specific weapon to push a dog

[mint brook]

finally got ALL zealot penances

[spare talon]

that is not at all what i said

in any capacity

[stone fern]

its exactly the same thing

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[stone fern]

all melee weapons should deal with them ragers then

[plucky gate]

what threat would they pose if you could stagger them with anything?
The point is that they want specialized stagger tools or else they zone you.
If you don't have those tools, you accept getting zoned and shoot them

[stone fern]

you just listed out 4 that stagger them

[spare talon]

that is what i said

[stone fern]

in the packs that they come in?

yeah ok go bring an evi15 into that or an ironhelm

[spare talon]

and i listed out 6 off the top of my head, 5 of which stagger multiple without any special attack, talent, or blessing

[plucky gate]

if you could just melee an entire pack of them, what exactly would be the point of ragers?

you want a melee enemy that sucks at fighting you from melee?

and like, you can with certain setups

[acoustic dune]

make it really hard to counter them with melee

me think

[stone fern]

my point is theres no point in doing ANY of that

dodge backwards (throwing knife) is still the best solution

[plucky gate]

idk i charge into ragers quite often

fotf stagger and kill is pretty effective

[spare talon]

i cant remember the last time i dodged back from a rager to throw a knife at it instead of just continuing to melee it

even when theres 8 of them

[plucky gate]

also sometimes they just target someone else

[obsidian prairie]

Ragers get folded by like half the weapons the human classes have

[stone fern]

i cant remember the last time u werent stinky

[visual stream]

Oooooo

[obsidian prairie]

And the other half still work, you just have to dodge

[visual stream]

Good clap-back Clad

How does Cole respond

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-henry-henry-of-skalitz-kcd-kingdom-come-gif-3561710500423895152

[stone fern]

fuck

im cooked

[plucky gate]

not every rager situation is
"i have no ability available, 20 ragers are after me, and my weapon is the worst weapon in the game at dealing with ragers"
There are plenty of times where you can just hit them

[tranquil owl]

Literally just side step them and head poke works for me usually

[mint brook]

also, when can we get twin power swords?

[visual stream]

Phenomenal plays from Cole

What an unbeatable scenario triumphed

[frosty herald]

Coal booting up darktide

[spare talon]

duelling sword user spotted
eat this man alive

[stone fern]

😭 when u play marty and have zero cdr and zero mobility like me thats every situation

[spare talon]

i meant to boot up KCD1 lmao

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/totally-spies-coal-rocks-santa-claus-throwing-coal-gif-9410523067550354418

coal?

[frosty herald]

Lies and deceit

[tranquil owl]

laughs in mobility

[spare talon]

do you ever get bored of watching the paint dry or is it just your thing

[mint brook]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-the-internet-meme-memes-bad-gif-19072823

[tranquil owl]

You dont get bored of harping about it so why would i get bored of using it?

[frozen kernel]

Is that fucking totally spies

[spare talon]

god i wish you didnt say that
i didnt notice until you did

[frozen kernel]

The hair is what clicked for me

[spare talon]

moral superiority

[obsidian prairie]

DS users when I make them use another weapon (they experiencing joy and wonder for all of 15 seconds until they get flattened because they have normal dodges)

[mint brook]

made me lol

[tranquil owl]

Can't be mad at that one

I just like the moveset, relic sword is where i go to hoard clear, cause it definitely gets annoying now and then when your clearing rate isnt there

[obsidian prairie]

Just try tac axe

Trust me

We’re not a cult

[spare talon]

taxe superiority

[tranquil owl]

I'll give any of the weapons a shot

[frozen kernel]

This unironically

[obsidian prairie]

The carpal tunnel occurrences are propaganda spread by caxe users who don’t understand the clear loop

[frozen kernel]

Psyker’s taxe fucks

Weirdly enough

[obsidian prairie]

It provides good synergy

[frozen kernel]

Caxe has the cool spin tho

[obsidian prairie]

With their stupid fucking finesse mods

[plucky gate]

taxe crits a lot and psyker has disrupt destiny

[frozen kernel]

Yeah

[plucky gate]

also a bunch of on crit effects like EE

[acoustic dune]

yarp

[frozen kernel]

ℱ in chat for Jerry

[proven topaz]

what blessings for a boss killer bolter?

[stone fern]

shattering impact puncture

[proven topaz]

im currently doing cavalcade pining fire

fuck me then

[stone fern]

perks unyielding and flak/carapace/elite mostly flak

[proven topaz]

i got cara unyielding rn i think

i swapped cara for infested a while ago

so bleedstacks with brittle just rule or what?

[plucky gate]

infested wtf

[stone fern]

cara only helps you for mag dumping crushers if you're good with weakspots on crushers you can skip cara for something else

[stone fern]

kinda yeah

look at the pinning fire stacks when you're using it

its kinda hard to get them

[proven topaz]

yeah its not much uptime

[plucky gate]

if you're specifically wanting it for bosses, it's just doing nothing

good luck staggering one

[proven topaz]

yeah i figured

cause i always had to shoot a burst into something else

[plucky gate]

pinning bolter is nice for vet cause it gets really nice one-tap breakpoints for gunner packs

and vet can get the rending to help bleed through it's tree

not really the same for zealot

[acoustic dune]

ok imma make a funny boid blast staff

wat put

[grizzled aspen]

Is ok.

[grizzled aspen]

Meeeeeee...

Been awake since midnight, it is now 6pm.

[acoustic dune]

ok how funny is this

[frosty herald]

Very good

[acoustic dune]

what bleesing on void blast staff

[frosty herald]

It looks decent

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-spash-taking-out-the-excess-water-shower-time-to-my-tiny-noodle-ferret-gif-4741322777827866773

[plucky gate]

weird towel

[sterile basalt]

Not needed for boltgun on veteran

Zealot is best with shattering/cavalcade

Shattering is specifically better vs crusher

Cavalcade is more general purpose & better vs boss

[hearty nebula]

but you can

[stone fern]

ok this was coles fault

i just got 20 ragered

noob....

[hearty nebula]

just kill them

[frosty herald]

Waiting for title update 1

[nimble fiber]

just vibin at this point

[acoustic dune]

wth am i listening

what are you gonna yap about

[spare talon]

@sullen forge

[copper hawk]

Ring

[grizzled aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1346182896267956284/Warhammer40000_Darktide2025-03-0317-56-33-Trim-ezgif.com-optimize_online-video-cutter.com_1.gif

[nimble fiber]

ION!!!!!

[copper hawk]

4got coruscation..

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-ishowspeed-gif-1290931606264393136

is this tobuscus

[tawdry leaf]

60% legs

[spare talon]

why in gods name does it go so hard

[misty nova]

Ground fire

[grizzled aspen]

Consecration.

[spare talon]

theres no way

[grizzled aspen]

Wait @mint brook you could name a fire grenade node "Consecration."

[spare talon]

consecrated mind

[nimble fiber]

[frosty herald]

what the dog doing

[misty nova]

Oh ok that was a jam

[nimble fiber]

smokin the bong

[misty nova]

Eurobeat if it locked in

[nimble fiber]

[misty nova]

Legit thought it was JohnYoung first

Suffocation No Breathing 🗣️

[stone fern]

cole did this2me

[acoustic dune]

i cant tell if the music is ai or not

which is concerning

[visual stream]

I stopped watching at 0:05 put Subway Surfers on the bottom next time

[misty nova]

As someone that never listened to ai generated music

Idk

Too good to be AI gen

[tawdry leaf]

the brainrot has taken another victim...

[misty nova]

Love doing that to snipers

[tropic pelican]

It's definitely AI music

[misty nova]

Well if that's ai music then I'm cooked

[nimble fiber]

hi cooked how r u doin

[misty nova]

I'm good

[nimble fiber]

hi good

[misty nova]

Tracked it down to Pimp Casket Industries

And yeah

The Eurobeat is there

[nimble fiber]

[misty nova]

https://youtu.be/UvCxE5Dy24g?si=IhF8lwXb5D_hwYIM

Bruh

What is this thumbnail

This is how we get slow mode back

[grizzled aspen]

YOU HAVE A FULL MAG AND 79 BULLETS IN RESERVE WHY DONT YOU FUCKING SHOOT ANYTHING

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[misty nova]

This song has follow ups

[stone fern]

😡

[misty nova]

Up to 7

[acoustic dune]

maybe so

[misty nova]

[stone fern]

remind me tomorrow ill send you the full clip

i can assure you i shot stuff

[acoustic dune]

then again my fav piece of music is a aisong

[nimble fiber]

[acoustic dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHqy54hM1s

me think this is peak

[misty nova]

Ok part 2 ain't bad

Think I'll stop at 2

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-bird-bird-damn-distraction-pukeko-gif-930861285998444136

[stone fern]

i feel like this dude killed me too quick

[misty nova]

Get cooked lol

[grizzled aspen]

It's because he flamed you longways.

You were in more hitboxes than if he flamed you from the side.

(I think)

(This is just what makes sense in my head, I have no idea if this is true or not)

[stone fern]

smh i should switch bomber resist to flamer resist

[placid fiber]

Dogged and cooked extra crispy, what a way to go

[stone fern]

this is how i lost until death btw

those kicks are too fucking op

they really need to add a cooldown to kickspam

[placid fiber]

Get kicked, scrub

[misty nova]

Flamer melee is like 50 damage

💀

[stone fern]

nerf kicks pls

[obsidian prairie]

You have a fucking gun

[plucky gate]

insane flamer kick dps

[obsidian prairie]

AND TKNIVES

[stone fern]

i forgor

[placid fiber]

I don't know if I've ever been kicked by a flamer more than once :\

[stone fern]

(im pretty sure the knife would have cleaved through)

[hexed igloo]

Nerf taxe

[plucky gate]

i've been killed from a kick while midair from a mutant toss

[placid fiber]

[stone fern]

also yeah ive never seen them do that without a taunt active

[plucky gate]

dunked

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-maybe-the-neutrals-my-gut-gut-gif-5711127

https://tenor.com/view/neutral-if-i-dont-survive-tell-my-wife-hello-gif-13790639

[sterile basalt]

Wouldn’t have helped

Just don’t play martyr, ez

[stone fern]

yeah i know

[visual stream]

I've been killed by a sniper kick while in a BoN stomach

[stone fern]

i dont really think ij is that good with ironhelm

[obsidian prairie]

Why are you running that in the first place

[stone fern]

ironhelm needs more consistant buffs to function than curcis to function

[stone fern]

for gas ticks

[plucky gate]

i like marty with crucis anyways

[placid fiber]

another crucis W

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-friend-cat-stare-cat-black-brown-stare-cat-female-female-cat-gif-14597978755354919662

[plucky gate]

sometimes i'm lazy with charging thrust

[stone fern]

ironhelm is getting buffed soon BELIEVE

🙏 AFFIRM IT!

[visual stream]

10 stacks with nothing but thrust kills a crusher

And this does not require you to nerf your health for the value

Plus dodge value

[placid fiber]

No carapace/elites damage?

[stone fern]

Yeah but everything else its a bit harder to get consistant stacks for other usage

[visual stream]

Cara perk yes

[plucky gate]

or
could use martyrdom and not bother charging thrust

[stone fern]

imagine taking carapace

[visual stream]

Didn't you just earlier complain about cara damage

WHAT IS ON YOUR HAMMER BRO

[plucky gate]

3rd stack of thrust just takes so long

[visual stream]

CARA IS REQUIRED FOR IRONHELM TO BE THE GENERALIST THAT IT IS

[plucky gate]

feels like years

[visual stream]

Chat is Clad baiting me

[north sedge]

Crucis is the way

[placid fiber]

I would say yes, but, it's Clad... so probably not...

[plucky gate]

clad what is on your hammer?

[placid fiber]

Love how he immediately went silent

when asked what was on his hammer

Mine has unyielding and carapace

[plucky gate]

he's changing his perks right now for the screenshot

[placid fiber]

with thrust and headtaker

[visual stream]

If Ironhelm I say slaughterer is better for BPs but it's still preference

[placid fiber]

I use the crucis

[visual stream]

I take flak over unyield but also preference

Cara is required though

[plucky gate]

i think mine was a crucis with unyielding+elites

[placid fiber]

I took flak over cara when I did a malice run last night, and I got to 1 shot the assassination boss because of that lol

[visual stream]

If Crucis you won't need cara but I'm p. sure you will need to work for the crusher kills a little

[placid fiber]

It's more for a more comfortable breakpoint

[plucky gate]

i'm running martyrdom so i do have some leeway

[placid fiber]

iirc I can 1 shot them with carapace and 3 marty buffs(and 3 thrust stacks)

[stone fern]

wrong

flak unyielding

[misty nova]

Huffing that extra ironhelm copium

[stone fern]

you mean with chastise?

[placid fiber]

Clad just prefers 2 shotting crushers without chastise

[stone fern]

im talking no chastise

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/backhand-hoodwinked-hoodwinked2-hd-meme-gif-24300706

[placid fiber]

No, without chastise

I'll go test it rq

[stone fern]

its too late im going to bed rn

[visual stream]

Clad is baiting me and it's working

[stone fern]

but in my absence

[placid fiber]

I can damage myself with a flamer barrel so it is easy

[stone fern]

pls imagine im being very dogmatic towards carapace damage buffs

[placid fiber]

I'm not doing the testing for you, I"m doing it for me

Yep, easy peasy 1 shot

[north sedge]

Yea crucis does it very easily

[placid fiber]

Crucis does what I want when I want, and I love it

[acoustic dune]

question

[visual stream]

If Ironhelm were getting any buffs I would say slightly improved flak damage for bruiser horde clear

That's it

[acoustic dune]

would you racherfight

a man size ant

or ant size man with the quantity of a ant size man

[placid fiber]

I kind of think the lower carapace fits the weapon due to it altering the specialty from damage to horde clear

[visual stream]

What does the second one mean

[acoustic dune]

multiple ant man

[plucky gate]

what

[visual stream]

Like a man sized worth of ant-sized mans?

[plucky gate]

how many is that?

[leaden stag]

zealonomicon wheN?

[visual stream]

I'm going with the man-sized quantity of ant-sized men

Human bodies are puny

Ants are built to run their streets

[acoustic dune]

no a man sized ant and worth of ant sized man

[visual stream]

One single ant that is the size of a man is a medium-sozed tragedy tragedy

[plucky gate]

what is a the worth of an ant sized man?

are we talking mass or volume?

idk the density of an ant actually

[acoustic dune]

volume

[spare talon]

so far every person whos attempted to make one was banned for something unrelated

[plucky gate]

either way i'd probably just pick the ant sized man

[grand tangle]

True, why are zealot players such degenerates

[north sedge]

Can't wait for dorns insider playtest knowledge

[acoustic dune]

tldr we are never getting one bc everyone whom work on it disapear
check pin

[plucky gate]

zealot guide curse

[hard nexus]

i could make a guide

i won’t

but i could

[plush estuary]

bye bye

[acoustic dune]

are you sure?

[plush estuary]

cursed

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-are-you-sure-bens-yeater-gabe-zimmerman-linus-neuman-gif-7992236815276450479

[visual stream]

Much, much lower than an ant-sized ant

[hard nexus]

are you sure?

[acoustic dune]

can you imagine a man sized ant making a society to just kick your ass?

[visual stream]

Hold on

[hard nexus]

are you sure?

[hard nexus]

i’m not asking you i’m referencing invincible brainrot

[visual stream]

I know

I'm saying hold on

For this

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-are-you-sure-discord-gif-22536115

[plucky gate]

just drop something on them

[obsidian prairie]

Just spent the entire end event of ascension riser at zero dd stacks

huh

[opaque island]

for a darktide specific class focused discord channel, there's alot of non darktide related things going on in here

[plucky gate]

hell they'll probably just fight each other

[hard nexus]

have you tried hitting headshots

duh

[obsidian prairie]

I took that off

[hushed knoll]

Hello Carpets

[hard nexus]

(ascension riser end event stinks)

[obsidian prairie]

It was normal board so mid spawns but like

Nothing was spawning to proc it

[hard nexus]

i wish ascension riser had elite packs that came out of the doors, aside from shotgunners

[spare talon]

@obsidian prairie were you just looking at your buff bar or was it only horde enemies

[hard nexus]

and more chaff in general

[acoustic dune]

like what?

[sterile basalt]

I can probably do it
After vet guide is done

[hard nexus]

probably the latter

[sterile basalt]

Or I’ll just expand vet guide to also include zealot stuff

[plush estuary]

riser doesnt spawn enemies besides horde at end event

[obsidian prairie]

I have a prio bar that displays it correctly

But yeah oops all trash

[hard nexus]

elites sometimes spawn

[plush estuary]

2

atleast

[hard nexus]

i’ve seen shotgunner packs

and gunners

but that’s it

i don’t think there’s any maulers

ragers

ik there are no ogryns

[plucky gate]

you mean ant-sized men right? Cause that's what i picked

if they're ant sized, just step on them

[placid fiber]

The gunlugger standing behind you:

[spare talon]

ive had the idea of a +0.5-1s refresh on the current stack timer (not exceeding the 4/10s of the stack) on a non highlighted enemy kill

[plush estuary]

for a 3rd modifer?

instead of 25stacks or 10 sec

[acoustic dune]

what if they develop and procreate

[plucky gate]

how much prep time do they have?

[acoustic dune]

and now theres like a nation of ant sized man

[plucky gate]

at some point they'll just start a war with each other or something

[acoustic dune]

40k

[spare talon]

could be an additional effect of the final node, and also only proc on weakspot kills too

[visual stream]

I've seen flak ragers and scab shotgunners

[acoustic dune]

warhammer

[visual stream]

But that's it

[plucky gate]

i will convince them to worship me

become the emperor

[visual stream]

Ik they already did this whole thing where they made some finale events harder but can they like

Do it again

[plucky gate]

emperor of ant-sized mankind

[acoustic dune]

what if they sacrafice multiple ant sized man shaman

[visual stream]

Comms-plex snooze

[spare talon]

the final effect being the 2 stack on highlight headshot kill
and it additionally adding +0.5s to the current stack timer up to the cap on non highlight headshot kill
@plush estuary

[visual stream]

Radio hourglass mission snooze

[acoustic dune]

and made a ant sized golden man

[hushed knoll]

Ants can't be man sized

[acoustic dune]

no

[hushed knoll]

Oh wait

[placid fiber]

gloriana snoo- oh wait...

[hushed knoll]

Golden men can't be ant sized

[visual stream]

Says the man who clearly hasant seen a man sized ant

[hushed knoll]

Hello leggy bird

Aka Honduras

[visual stream]

Hello Stan

[acoustic dune]

mma go eat nuggies

[hushed knoll]

What is zamn

[hushed knoll]

With mayo?

[acoustic dune]

before stan ruin nuggies

[visual stream]

Zamn is damn but zamn

[acoustic dune]

ketchup mayo

[hushed knoll]

acid

Whoops

[hushed knoll]

I love ketchup mayo

Good choice

We both clearly have similar taste

[acoustic dune]

no

[hushed knoll]

[acoustic dune]

i like it bc thats what i can only get

[hushed knoll]

Why

[acoustic dune]

you eat it bc you like it

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-jumpscare-gus-fring-jumpscare-scary-oby-gif-13022434999806691946

we are not the same

plus i perfer mayo ketchup with fires

[placid fiber]

Well yeah... you're knify and he's stan...

[hard nexus]

if it was crit or weakspot kill i agree

just to make it SLIGHTLY more skill based

and fitting with the whole DD theme of finesse

but it shouldn’t be a second

i think a half second would fit

half second pause

swap out the middle node of DD

purloin providence is mediocre

[spare talon]

its actually secretly meta

[fleet zealot]

stance up

[hard nexus]

enlighten me

[hard nexus]

bro think this shit a game

[spare talon]

i cant because i was entirely making it up

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

i knew it

i see through your bluffs epic_stink

what do u guys think he’s looking at

[fleet zealot]

staring at me with that blue eyed stare

[hard nexus]

wrong

he was staring at a french fry

[opaque island]

find someone who stares at you like this dog stares at french fries

[fleet zealot]

damn

[hard nexus]

real actually

[hearty nebula]

i am smashing my head against a brick wall rn

trying to make fanfire revolver feel good on zealot

[red idol]

is indig crusher better as a piety or inexorable judgement wep?

[hard nexus]

both !

it works well on both

piety obviously has IoD

so will benefit from that

but the damage, dodges, and attack speed of IJ is really nice too

[hard nexus]

the crits themselves however are also good

especially on the push attack

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOYRSUkPOq4HQjcXx?invite=cr-MSx6ak8sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

this was with IJ

[median steeple]

oooohg

[obsidian prairie]

I was wondering why Obscurus wasn't doing its stupid crusher combo and realized I forgot Uncanny

Yeah it beats deimos

[fleet zealot]

you just take anoint in blood, dance of death

and IJ or blazing piety

and duelist

it's never going to be vet good but that's how you do it

[hard nexus]

goobermaxxing

[hard nexus]

yarp

it’s less safe to use due to no stagger

but that’s not that big of a deal when u kill things that fast

[obsidian prairie]

I'll probably try meleeker with it

Funky combos

[hard nexus]

when i did i died 5 times in a duo with @plush estuary

granted i am washed rn

but

shh

[obsidian prairie]

The uppercut is stupid hard to hit

It doesn't have headshot priority like mk2 uppercut

Its cleave also kinda sucks

[hard nexus]

kinda but it doesn’t really matter

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah h1 will oneshot crit a rager easily

[hard nexus]

yarp

[delicate shadow]

billions must crushermaxx

as it should be

[sullen forge]

Zealot chudjak holding a crusher

[merry flume]

obscurus is so good

[merry flume]

if i wasn't about to get in vr i'd fuck around with some comfy obsc melee psyker gameplay

i just wish every force sword got a unique special attack

brainburst special is so bad, there's no situation outside of boss nuking where i can use it without a massive risk for barely any more damage

[hard nexus]

illisi special should be an instant attack

[sullen forge]

Make

the fucking obscurus

have a parry

[hard nexus]

with higher peril gen

[sullen forge]

like the Devils Claws

smh

[hard nexus]

deimos after a full channel on special should do a small explosion

[sullen forge]

Cowards

[hard nexus]

scaling with it being a light or heavy, or maybe off of enemy size/health

[hard nexus]

after killing the enemy via channel*

[merry flume]

parry but it absorbs damage , gives peril based on damage absorbed (can trigger peril), then does like a venting shriek or mini fgs blast w/ proportional damage

but they're too scared to do that...

[median steeple]

wait is obscurus better than Deimos now

[merry flume]

i just like obscurus better

deimos is busted damage but it sucks when you get melee swarmed

[sullen forge]

I was thinking something like that where its like a shotgun blast from how much you absorb from it

like a mini vent shriek in a way

smaller cone obviously cause that shit its busted

Deflector should buff it to where you can use it to absorb ranged and decreases peril generated from "parrying"

[merry flume]

force sword with an empowered mode you can only use if you perfect block/parry

[visual stream]

My left controller started leaking battery acid about a year and a half ago

Been unusable since...

[sullen forge]

That sounds fucking awesome

[visual stream]

I miss Beat Saber

[sullen forge]

That does not

H3 my beloved

I LOVE SHOOTING THINGS IN VR

[merry flume]

and it sucks because there's like no index controllers in stock ever and there's no better alternative

[visual stream]

I had an Oculus Quest 2

Meta product, I should not be surprised

[merry flume]

i've been waiting for a good vr headset to buy for years

and the quest 3 sadly checks most of those boxes

[visual stream]

I'm waiting to not be relatively broke to get a new one

[sullen forge]

Coming from experience cause Admittedly Vic is like a decent chunk I decided to get a headset again

its actually

pretty nice

Q3

[hard nexus]

ive been debating getting one

[visual stream]

Is it better for connecting to your PC than Quest 2 was?

[sullen forge]

Do you already have one

[hard nexus]

i was thinking specifically about a valve index

no

[sullen forge]

easily I would say

[hard nexus]

but idk !

[sullen forge]

it was a fucking headache with my old Q2

[visual stream]

Wondrous

[sullen forge]

Q3 is far easier to me at least

[visual stream]

I bought too many DLCs on Beat Saber before I realized modded Beat Saber was huge stocks

[sullen forge]

Do the Valve if you can

but Q3 is like easier to get

[merry flume]

i am a decent chunk thank you

[visual stream]

It didn't mean much tho because the headset and my computer were both NOT built for that

Indecent chunk..

[obsidian prairie]

Appparently laspistol force push stacks Dum Dum

[visual stream]

Laspistol force push?

[sullen forge]

Yung Lean if it was awesome

[obsidian prairie]

The special is upgraded on psyker

And i stacks dum dum because fatshark

[visual stream]

Wut

I never knew that

[merry flume]

it also has a busted range

[obsidian prairie]

10m, yes

same as force weapon PA

[visual stream]

Time to make a scrier goonking lasp build

[merry flume]

me when i dumdum push the burster and get like 50 poxwalker kills

wonder if the dumdum damage effects teammates

[obsidian prairie]

Ok normal push does too

[obsidian prairie]

Its a self buff

[merry flume]

no, i mean if a teammate gets hit by a poxbomber that you laspistol push

will the boosted damage of the burster hit teammates harder

[sullen forge]

Probably not

seeing its usually registering it for enemies, unless its EXTREMELY old code back when ye olden days of Friendly Fire was a thing

[merry flume]

unironically i think if teamkilling was a thing you would see less annoying people in the game

[sullen forge]

A lot more team killing

LMAO

[merry flume]

it happens

[leaden stag]

can someone show me a 2 handed chainsword build?

[shrewd minnow]

when I equip Lethal Proximity in the psykanium, I don't get an explosion on ranged shots anymore, only point blank

is that a bug, intended, or a psykanium specific bug?

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus

You've been summoned

[hard nexus]

mk3 or mk15

mk3

mk15

mk15, elites can be swapped to either carapace or unyielding if so desired

but unyielding will only really affect boss damage, the breakpoints remain the same on reapers and bulwarks

carapace helps reach crusher oneshots on crits

also

if you plan on chastising and special attacking an enemy

chastise during the sawing animation, not before

deals significantly more damage

[obsidian prairie]

and you get a second crit after

[hard nexus]

yarp

[visual stream]

gnarp

[hushed knoll]

Hi again leggy bird

[visual stream]

Hello Stoon

Have you cooked any recently

[spare talon]

obscurus fucks

its just a little harder to use because its not as brainless as the other two swords

actual combos, can you imagine

[obsidian prairie]

It suffers from the lingering reputation of being shit before and not being an FGS now

[spare talon]

i had to get reg to try it out and tell him what the single target combo was for him to actually realize its good

[obsidian prairie]

Sadly the uppercut is really annoying to hit anything with

Doesn't it have the best killtime for x many crushers or something?

[median steeple]

I will have to try it now

[spare talon]

H40 crushers and amulers

[obsidian prairie]

How many

[spare talon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CfQvmicdYoM

[copper hawk]

internet set up

gaming set up

toys time..

time 2 tide

[polar nexus]

Obscurus DMG has been good for a while now

They changed the moveset a bit recently tho

[fleet zealot]

i don't think

[fleet zealot]

lol lmao

[fleet zealot]

literally last major patch

[polar nexus]

Ahhh yes

6 months ago

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[fleet zealot]

who knew adding functional combos makes a weapon good when it already had good stats and great blessings

[polar nexus]

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/its-bleak-bleak-its-peak-peak-homelander-gif-466413946589568151

the addiction.....

[sterile basalt]

Obscurus is insanely busted but the avg psyker player hasn’t yet figured out how to press Q on their keyboard not to mention a weapon with any kind of moveset

[copper hawk]

just watched a chorus zeal throw a match

i get magnetic pounced and while im being mauled alive

i watch this chorus zeal stand over a downed guy w his chorus out

instead of just walkin 5 feet to knock the hound off me w his chorus

he waits until chorus runs out to revive and then gets trapped

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jUuhrvm3BUrMZHd7b?invite=cr-MSxlWE8sMjA0MjU2ODk0

[fleet zealot]

Lolooloololoil

[jagged cradle]

Might be the smartest player I’ve seen

[copper hawk]

kill ALL noobz

it's so nice 2 have actually realiable internet

[median steeple]

freegum

[jagged cradle]

What did I do?!?!

[sullen forge]

I had a vision

and I made

pure fucking coal

been laughing at this actual fucking burning coal pile for the past 3 minutes

[carmine falcon]

Kino

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[sullen forge]

I sat down and 1999 She came on, on my play list

and I Just had a fucking vision

beamed directly into my mind

Make the worst fucking image relating to darktide humanely possible

and thus that was born

Fun Fact thats Japanese is literally "Weakspot"

LMAO

[copper hawk]

tf2 time

[median steeple]

you cooked

[sullen forge]

Yeah cooked my fucking brain to make this LMAO

[median steeple]

hmmmm bacon

[long oasis]

stolen

it is mine now

[sterile stone]

Hell of a reaction image right there

[obtuse stirrup]

I still say that IoD is good even with only Fury of the Faithful and no Blazing Piety. It's like so strong that even without its key synergy talents it's still one of the stronger ones

fury of the faithful itself alone cuts 8 seconds off of its own 30 second recharge time - if you never get any other crits it's already like a 27% cooldown reduction if you have no other CDR sources and iirc an even better one if you have more of them

[plush estuary]

shes saying the main reason for BP is for IoD, if you take IoD with IJ you cut some damage or survability

especially for a low crit weapon like crusher

[obtuse stirrup]

I started to do a lot better with my chain axe after I took IoD. Only other crit related talents I have are Fury of the Faithful itself and Duelist. If you're not taking second wind having more of those +50 toughness boosts on top of the offensive power is super handy, even if your weapon doesn't crit so much naturally.

If you have fury of the faithful you're critting at least every 30 seconds (or 22 since IoD itself is a thing)

Fury of the faithful is just so good it's crazy

the fact that it feeds itself

[spare talon]

@sullen forge dude look at this fucking dweeb i found

[sullen forge]

what

who

Explode