#zealot-class

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placid fiber
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NOT THE TREES!!!!

hushed knoll
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I am not a mayo bird

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OMG YOURE YAASIFIED

sullen forge
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There’s honestly a lot of things I’m excited for

visual stream
sullen forge
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Mainly Valentine and D4C cause they’re my absolute favorite in the series

sullen forge
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I want to see Gyro and spin

frosty herald
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Hopefully part 7 doesnt turn into the mess that part 6 was

sullen forge
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I pray it doesn’t but I don’t give a fuck

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Holy shit

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Yam

frosty herald
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Episodes shit onto netflix with random waiting times inbetween and cgi

sullen forge
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A True Man’s World Arc

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That shit is going to be so fucking good

visual stream
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They should do another Monster Hunter movie but not an existential crisis this time

modern lintel
stone fern
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deserved

tranquil owl
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Thank you

hushed knoll
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👢

stone fern
north sedge
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Everyone wish stan to get well, he's got gooch tendonitis

visual stream
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How does one develop such a condition huntereyebrow

violet hornet
placid fiber
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My wife would really understand this, she has terrible allegies x.x

fleet zealot
misty nova
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Big noodle

open echo
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is mkx relic blade with 10% elites supposed to hit the crusher bp with sprint atk + dash

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i see people saying that but it doesn't work in practice?

placid fiber
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did you chastise?

open echo
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yeh

placid fiber
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Not sure then

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was the blade active?

open echo
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full 80s and mobil at 60

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yeahg it was active

placid fiber
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Do you have both +5% melee damage nodes?

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one I think is above where benediction is and one is above sustained assault

open echo
placid fiber
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Did you check if it works with 5 sustained assault stacks?

open echo
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ohhhh, does it require sustained?

placid fiber
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idk

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I am just going over a mental checklist since idk the specifics of what could make or break it

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x.x

open echo
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ugh, if it needs sustained assault + sprint atk and fotf i might just use cara lmao

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that window is so short

sullen forge
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@open echo you using Disdain at all?

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That’s a talent relic actually benefits from also

placid fiber
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Oh yeah, it's one of the only(or few, I can't remember) weapons that benefit from it

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At least... in any significant way :\

opal solar
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I know I've seen people say they want a power fist for zealot, but I have to wonder why I've never seen someone using two power fists.

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Also, still want a greataxe for zealot. Doesn't even need to be chained or powered. Just a dope gothic executioners axe.

placid fiber
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So, Frog... is this bonus backstab damage for everything or just my cast? It always confuses me when I see it... and to me unless it affected everything or I had an extremely strong cast it just doesn't sound good to me(Parting Shot) @grizzled aspen

grizzled aspen
placid fiber
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So it adds to the backstab damage I have?

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and my cast can backstab

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I generally have shadow presence, so that would be a baseline of +85% backstab damage total

open echo
hard nexus
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DISDAIN SUCKS!!

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ON ALL WEAPONS!!!

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except MAYBE thunder hammer but that requires a lot of unnecessary effort

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disdain requires you to keep track of whether you’re on an even or odd swing

placid fiber
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"No it sucks on all weapons!"
immediately contridicts herself

hard nexus
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i said “except”

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it wasn’t a contradiction

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it was an exception

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which proves the rule

hard nexus
open echo
hard nexus
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hello

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disdain sucks don’t ever use it

hard nexus
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it’s a pointless talent

placid fiber
open echo
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I am so confused why i cannot hit that bp

placid fiber
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(I am just giving you shit)

hard nexus
open echo
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Time to use +cara dmg or just light spam ig

hard nexus
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how much are you missing the BP by

open echo
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Mabye 1-3% of its health?

atomic fjord
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How it feels to troll psyker as ogie

hard nexus
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in the psykanium

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just tell me how much damage you deal

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or kill it with another heavy and tell me how much damage that second heavy does

open echo
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I forgor

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Game closed itself

hard nexus
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lmfao

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i’ll test for you in a bit

open echo
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Ty lol

visual stream
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I used to use disdain back when I pathed left instead of through tknife side and when I lost it I noticed I didn't miss it

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Even on Ironhelm which likely enjoys it

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I should try a non second wind build again

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I think Second Wind has made me soft and complacent..

plush estuary
sullen forge
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Just straight up kick em at that point

open echo
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I mean, depends on the diff

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Wait, only way to make knife not brainless (real)

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But worse

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Oh i just saw the perks lmao

plush estuary
sullen forge
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two, thats just making it borderline throwing

clever swan
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i always wonder if the people with bad builds are just running the one knife they have just to get some penances or picking bad talents for the same reason

opal solar
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I know that's why I ran knife. Got my right tree penances.

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Gotta say, I understand why people run it.

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Even if it's not aesthetically my cup of tea.

open echo
mighty root
fleet zealot
grizzled aspen
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@acoustic dune I have a request.

sterile stone
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Darktide could make a metric fuck ton of money making balisong skins for the knife

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And having the inspect be twirling it around

grizzled aspen
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You know what to do with this, yes?

grizzled aspen
misty nova
plush estuary
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dies of death

tranquil owl
sullen forge
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@grizzled aspen This shit puts the fear of god into you

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Ironman run

fleet zealot
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why tf so aeldari so advanced on tabletop

grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
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my small brain can't handle this

sullen forge
fleet zealot
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and my friend playing the big tank/mek orks

sullen forge
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go till I die on whatever havoc rank

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its reach 30

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and then complete an AuDamn Mael

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All without dying once

vocal gazelle
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What do yall do in terms of curios for a martyrdom build?

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I know at least 2 wound ones, but I don't know what to do in tems of perks.

obsidian prairie
vocal gazelle
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I assume more toughness and not faster toughness regen?

obsidian prairie
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so yes

vocal gazelle
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Right

mighty root
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A lot

vocal gazelle
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How would one aquire a million dockets?

misty nova
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Lots of maelstrom

vocal gazelle
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I see.

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I'm probably biting off more than I can chew seeing as I'm plaing herecy maelston

placid fiber
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gunner resist, health, toughness, stamina regen, maybe 1 sniper resist

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uh

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I can't remember any other good ones rn

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sigh a thammer with thunderous slaughterer maniacs and elites on it... I didn't look at the stats >.>'

mighty root
obsidian prairie
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All of these except the first are fairly normal

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And the first is just so frame perfect and/or ping shenanigans

tranquil owl
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I've been dodging the doges quite often now, or kill them mid jump, the ladder is so satisfying, watching their head fall off mid-air

hearty nebula
tranquil owl
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That sounds like pure bliss

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Constant sound of rip and tear

hearty nebula
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fatshark needs to make it so you can get covered with blood

tranquil owl
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YEEESSSSSSS

hearty nebula
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absolutely ludicrous that i cannot get back into the valkyrie absolutely fucking soaked in blood

tranquil owl
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Even if we console players cant see ourselves, we can see the rest of the team, and they can see us

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I can at least see my arms too

obsidian prairie
hearty nebula
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real

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ich habe autismus type ahh ui

tranquil owl
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Funny cause i am too lol

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Just need to pull up the tranparent overlay map so all i see is red arrows and im set

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You dont need to see in warframe and i stand by this :P

hearty nebula
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i know

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i play gauss with akarius prime

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my beloved

sterile stone
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@frosty herald There's battlefield 6 leaks on yt

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Game is actually looking good

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return to roots

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No more specialist

carmine falcon
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Literally just make battlefield 4 but prettier and insta buy

clever swan
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i hope the destruction has at least a couple buildings that can be fully destroyed and are as destructible as those in The Finals

sullen forge
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I still dont have hope untill I see how it plays out for a bit

hard nexus
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very very little

spare talon
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ive been playing with the shock maul the last 2 days

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did some duos and already uploaded one for posterity

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and man

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shock maul really is the middest of the mid

placid fiber
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Is anyone else having connection troubles tonight?

spare talon
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and i may be giving it too much credit by saying that

sullen forge
spare talon
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im not playing shock maul on vet

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you cant make me

sullen forge
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Im just saying it goes from incredibly mid

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to slightly bearable mid

spare talon
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i mean i think its fun on zealot

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but id be putting more work in with anything else

sullen forge
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But yes the Shock Mauls are fucking doodooshit mid

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you really feel that Unyield damage

obsidian prairie
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Its crusher

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But worse

spare talon
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much worse

placid fiber
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It's crusher, but, worse and it stuns instead of aoe staggers

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on the special

placid fiber
obsidian prairie
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I mean

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At least it has skullcrusher

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(like crusher)

sullen forge
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It has.... uhhh

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Falter!

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yeah that thing!

obsidian prairie
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At least it has fun effects

sullen forge
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im going to say that right now LMAO

delicate shadow
hearty nebula
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guys i take it back

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darktide pubs are good

zinc talon
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four bosses at once

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made it to the second room

obtuse stirrup
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on my new favourite build

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nice final mission before bed for me

obtuse stirrup
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had a guy with a thunderhammer pulverizing all the bosses before I could sink my chain axe into them though lol

hearty nebula
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ok

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this is singlehandedly ogryn's largest buff

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just this layout alone

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you don't get fucked for picking a specific grenade anymore

plush estuary
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Barge is also really big

hearty nebula
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barge?

plush estuary
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but yeah

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dodging pushes enemies

hearty nebula
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I haven't actually looked at any of the stuff

hearty nebula
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S+ tier shit

broken walrus
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wind

spare talon
plush estuary
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it was me barry

hard nexus
hard nexus
# hearty nebula barge?

dodge staggers and goes through one enemy, with decreasing effectiveness as you run out of dodges

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idk exactly how it works

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that was just what was written

hard nexus
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i remember talking about it here

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and people saying itd be super extremely OP

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and people compared it to shade from vt2

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and shade being so strong

plush estuary
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handmaiden had the dodge talent

hard nexus
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oh

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handmaiden

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yah

plush estuary
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barge, from what I've heard is going to be slayer's dodge push

hard nexus
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thats what i meant

plush estuary
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I understood

hard nexus
plush estuary
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this hurts me

visual stream
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Epic

hearty nebula
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certified mourningstar moment

visual stream
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I really do wish they would add a built-in report system already

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Instead of forcing me to do via forums

hearty nebula
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they do iirc but it sucks mega doodoo

visual stream
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Oh there is a report button now

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Swore there wasn't at some point before

acoustic dune
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no

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plus i need to finish the dr house drawing of that one first

acoustic dune
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ey cole

tame sluice
# spare talon

removing the global audio queue from snipers was one of the worst design decisions fatshark has made

acoustic dune
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how do you feel being the 4th yassqueen of the apocalypse?

spare talon
acoustic dune
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perfect

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ill go get my shit ready

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time to find your pfp

tranquil owl
acoustic dune
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shit is a custom

spare talon
acoustic dune
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please hand over your pfp

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i kindly ask of thee

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the yassqueen apocalypse must happen

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prease kindly gib pfp

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@spare talon is it ok if i edit on this?

hearty nebula
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good thing you can't yassify my pic

acoustic dune
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its working

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i am considerin

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however i really wanna yassify cole

placid fiber
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Didn't really notice the effects of this legendary boon until I got to the bosses of elysium... then it like slightly paused the game, they flashed a little, then they died... hard not to notice that <.<'

acoustic dune
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ey phill

placid fiber
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hi knify

jagged cradle
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Tbh imo

acoustic dune
jagged cradle
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You saying yet doesn’t give me much hope

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Maybe just don’t

acoustic dune
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lemme phrase it better

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thats why i havent start on it yet

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since its a custom pfp

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i am not touching wack without consent

tranquil owl
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Blue Exorcist finally managing to haunt my dreams with one of their characters

acoustic dune
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if you gonna change that to your pfp

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then ill consider it

tranquil owl
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I absolutely will

acoustic dune
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its on my list

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youll have it dont by tomorrow

tranquil owl
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You are the hero this city needs

acoustic dune
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any specific you with to have

tranquil owl
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I do fancy purple and pastel pink

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My best code vein cac is still my Playstation banner, lemme find the image

placid fiber
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Now this is some troll level shit >.>

acoustic dune
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i gotta make a fold of just yass edit

tranquil owl
# acoustic dune idk what that mean

Its the cover image that goes behind your profile, code vein is a game i enjoyed a lot, same universe as another series i enjoyed called God Eater

acoustic dune
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ah

tranquil owl
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The character creator is p good in that game, far as jrpg character creators go

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You have a LOT of freedom

acoustic dune
fringe bay
ornate bone
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Can someone explain something to me? Why do all headphones im trying that are the top of the top sound like shit? I upped my price range to $1300, tried sennheiser and beyerdynamic brands, didn't like them and dropped back down to the Arctis Nova Pro, which sounds alright, but then I put on my old Hyperx Cloud II's and they just sound better

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Is it my ears or something?

clever swan
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you have to mess with their EQ and such to make it sound like you want

clever swan
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i have never had a tryhard headphone with an amp and the special plugs n shit

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but i think using an EQ is a pivotal step

signal spoke
ornate bone
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Im on day 3 of trying to make the arctis nova pros sound good

clever swan
lunar fable
spare talon
plush estuary
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1/3 damage warpfire

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*of my damage

spare talon
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reminder that people will tell you that tactical axe is a bad weapon

obsidian prairie
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And they will be shit on by the entire chat (if it’s here)

obsidian ore
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Tac axe is def good

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Not the best, has it’s weaknesses and its strengths

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It’s a perfectly balanced weapon

plush estuary
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you working ham?

obsidian ore
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Unlike one particular weapon I am thinking about rn

plush estuary
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we got a slot

obsidian ore
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Yes

plush estuary
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zamn

spare talon
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what is happening

polar nexus
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you transcended

spare talon
placid fiber
acoustic dune
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👁️ 👁️

mint brook
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You guys like the new blades of faith i made? It got no numbers changes but new additional nodes TS and Stilletos are exclusive to each other:

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Mind you, immolation and stun nade also get new nodes

tranquil owl
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Wanna say Evangelion

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But the art throws me off

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Oh wait yeah nvm

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Definitely time to go to bed

copper hawk
copper hawk
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Freak .

polar nexus
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but 1s for 1% dmg is too slow

placid fiber
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You already basicaly get permanent uptime with chastise, that would be even easier :\

mint brook
placid fiber
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minus the 2 uses

mint brook
spare talon
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25% movement speed AND dodge distance for 12 seconds is hilariously way too much

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like holy shit

placid fiber
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^

placid fiber
spare talon
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IJ is already pushing the bounds of that at just 7.5% dodge distance and refresh rate

vast basin
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I mean with chastise you do get the invul+dash though

ornate bone
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I haven't used chastise in awhile.. people have been getting pretty toxic in havoc games

frosty herald
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We should have the shade talent where you get invis on killing enemies

mint brook
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What if we take the attack speed away and put it as a node somewhere?

placid fiber
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25%, tho?

spare talon
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not only is the attack speed stepping into the bounds of fotf
no matter what you do

spare talon
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ever

spare talon
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yes

placid fiber
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Yeah it increases dodge distance and recovery rate

mint brook
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But thats listed nowhere

spare talon
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yes

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it isnt

placid fiber
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Yep

spare talon
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but its there

mint brook
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Is there like some way to prove this? I mean thats an important bonus to list

ornate bone
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Testing

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Which they've done

spare talon
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you can feel it in the psyk quite easily

mint brook
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Fs just not listing this is actual insanity if true

spare talon
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but im going into the source code now

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i just forgot where it was so itll take me a sec

ornate bone
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They don't list a lot of things

placid fiber
mint brook
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Yes but i am at work with nothing to do atm and trying to kill time, cant really play games here tho

ornate bone
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Im scared my local store is going to ban me if I return one more headset

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🥺

ornate bone
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I've returned 7.. they look at me with daggers when I enter the store

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Im about to return an 8th..

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👉 👈

spare talon
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go into the psyk with like a crusher or something

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dodge around with 0 active stacks

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then hit something to activate 15 stacks and dodge around with them active

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you will feel it

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25% dodge distance is more than 3x that amount

spare talon
frosty herald
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Instructions unclear dodged a crusher at -4 dodges

tame sluice
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tbh with that much dodge distance even your -4 dodges are usable

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which is beyond stupid

placid fiber
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You actually can still dodge some stuff I think even at -5 dodges with that...

frosty herald
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I did it with a relic blade

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At -4 dodges

placid fiber
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tfw you dodge a crusher at -4 dodges with the reilc blade, then somehow fuck the dodge up against a trapper with the mk5 dueling sword...

frosty herald
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I dont use dueling swords

placid fiber
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I don't use the mk5 dueling sword, and I've been running the relic blade the last like... 2 weeks >.>

polar nexus
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fotf needs to be gutted

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and left for dead

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burn the relics of the past

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
copper hawk
spare talon
placid fiber
spare talon
distant yoke
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Vold?

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muted him a while ago, overinflated opinion of his reworks, hijacks every chat he enters with his whining and "seeking feedback on his rework ideas" aka ego inflation via meaningless babble that will never affect the game

mint brook
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Would IJ be more balanced if we put that value on shroudfield instead?

hexed igloo
frosty herald
mint brook
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Basically after stealth, you get a buff for a few seconds afterwards

frosty herald
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I could get infinite uptime on movement speed with heavy sword with that lingering buff

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Backstab ability cooldown

spare talon
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You could say the same think about weapon specialist, which is very strong, actually gives more dodge distance, and tons of other benefits

mint brook
spare talon
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Both are really strong for different reasons

open echo
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I was trying to sleep but i kept hearing the poxburster ticking in my head

mint brook
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Yes but one gets clearly favoured over the other

placid fiber
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idk how it is for you guys, but, for me there tends to be a trend in my games with the randos...

open echo
frosty herald
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Stalwart used to be useless until they added toughness damage reduction to it making it one of the best keystones to run

distant yoke
spare talon
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Piety is a massive amount of crit chance for free which can enable basically every crit talent+cdr, and tap into finesse weapon damage
Ij is a decent amount of attack speed and damage, with dodge distance and refresh which is really strong for any weapon in any situation, and is also basically free

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I'd choose the keystone depending on the build because there's different reasons for taking each

placid fiber
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The director said: Extra specials, free of charge

open echo
placid fiber
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whenever I try to open my scoreboard history it always disconnects me >.<['

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then I can open it after I get back in

mint brook
distant yoke
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one of the biggest difference I see between good and bad players is how rapidly they lock on to and get rid of bombers / trappers / muties / dogs / flamers

spare talon
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Frankly I don't think stealth or any sort of aggro reduction/removal should be in the game

placid fiber
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1 guy was helping me out, but, 34 lol

mint brook
frosty herald
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turn shroudfield into shade

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also double shroudfield cooldown with this change

mint brook
open echo
frosty herald
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cole writing a bible on how shade is the most broken thing imaginable

placid fiber
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I've just been chilling in some heresy games while doing my contracts... It is just sad seeing so few disablers from my randos x.x

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I am glad I don't expect anything from them, otherwise it would be somewhat demoralizing >.>'

spare talon
# open echo Is it just light spam for horde clear or is the push atk used more? (also what a...

Flak unyielding (unarmored if your Rashad isn't maxed out in stats)
Light spam is your entire horde clear, breakpoints with bm headtaker are made to where lights will one shot up to a bruiser, which bm allows you to one shot up to 4 of them per swing, which is easy due to the angles of the lights
Push attack does almost no damage, but has massive impact, and it's your solution to ragers, spamming push attack>light into groups of ragers is the best way to deal with them

frosty herald
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yeah turn the entire right tree of zealot into shade

placid fiber
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If only shade had a thunder hammer in vt2...

frosty herald
frosty herald
placid fiber
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Do I even need to upgrade it further? I mean sure for the perfect stats and 500 rating, but, still... <.<

mint brook
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I try to find a way to make shroudfield an equal pick to Fotf without increasins stealth duration

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I am trying to think of a nice buff after stealth as a base, but it needs to fit to a death cults theme

placid fiber
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Give it a damage bonus for a duration as an added node, that way it would be unique from chastise's upgrade

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like... 15% for 8s

mint brook
copper hawk
mint brook
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Why not?

placid fiber
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the ability to dodge snipers and poxbusters while charging <.<

frosty herald
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chastice is very strong and has such an insane amount of utility that shroudfield doesn come close unless you give it a way to generate additional uptime

placid fiber
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I feel like the utility is screwing your teammates over by not being targeted >.>

frosty herald
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50% toughness back instantly attack speed on linger a damage boost for the initial hit and can send you 30 metres forward

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vs shroudfield instant agro removal with a single hit that only lasts 5 seconds

placid fiber
mint brook
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What if shroudfield gave 50% of its value for 6 seconds after exiting stealth?

placid fiber
placid fiber
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I know I know

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stfu

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I"ve been told it enough times. :3

placid fiber
spare talon
mint brook
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Yes, but opinion is shroudfield could never compete peepo_shrug

copper hawk
celest jolt
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stealth shouldn't be a thing anyway

placid fiber
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I mean... it's a different tool for a different purpose

celest jolt
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at least not with all the cdr

mint brook
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The point i am making is that i WANT it to be cometition, and i know its possible, question is how

placid fiber
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It doesn't really fit a tide game either

placid fiber
frosty herald
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if you want to force a stealth playstyle on zealot

mint brook
copper hawk
placid fiber
mint brook
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I think there is 100% a place for stealth, bad players are imo the issue, not stealth

acoustic dune
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are you lads back on shroudfield?

copper hawk
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QUUAAAAAAIL HERETIIICS !!

mint brook
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Like there are good stealth users

celest jolt
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the issue is the good players, not bad

copper hawk
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HOOOLY LUSTRAAAATIOOON !!!

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REPENT, REPENT, REPEEENT!!

placid fiber
acoustic dune
frosty herald
open echo
mint brook
mint brook
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Like the recalculation take to long for them usually to have enough time to fully focus another enemy

placid fiber
mint brook
#

Not stealth itself

jovial cosmos
#

How is that player created

placid fiber
#

It can catch experienced players off guard, even

mint brook
#

What one can do is add an inverse low profile

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To the base of shroudfield

placid fiber
#

increase the aggro they have afterwards?

mint brook
#

But i think stealth has to stay, it is part of the death cult, but it being the whole focus is the issue

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It should be a longer lasting steroid

mint brook
placid fiber
#

It would at least be unique

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and fit zealots going ham in the front lines

mint brook
#

Basically increase it for the second they reappear to ensure they take back what they dumped

placid fiber
#

And a way it could be offset as well is by giving them a damage bonus for a short duration

mint brook
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Basically in every media where dca is in, enemies piss and shit themselves and try to make sure you die asap

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Cause they know a DCA is absolutely terrible news

placid fiber
#

dca...?

mint brook
#

Death cult assassin

placid fiber
#

Oh

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I've never seen it abbreviated

mint brook
#

Writing the whole thing gets dull after the 10th time, which is why i do it

jovial cosmos
#

Just saying

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The extra aggro wont do anything

spare talon
jovial cosmos
#

Rn you just "reworked" shroudfield into a giant stat boost for no reason

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In a game that already suffers from heavy powercreep

copper hawk
twin wagon
#

Rather broken statboost than gamebreaking mechanic.

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Stealth and speed break the game.

jovial cosmos
#

Ye but now you get double the speed

twin wagon
#

But so does packet loss sorta

jovial cosmos
#

Like what

twin wagon
#

thankfully speed can't break spawns harder

jovial cosmos
#

Disregard the other 4/5 stat boosts that were mentioned yesterday loregryn

modern lintel
#

@copper hawk

mint brook
placid fiber
#

... I am so confused as to why lethal proximity is on this bolt pistol... I'm guessing when I upgraded it from purple to orange it was what I got and I was too broke to fix it...

celest jolt
#

stealth is already game breaking and you want to buff it

mint brook
#

By using it in a very bad way

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Sure effective, but not conducive to fun for anyone else

celest jolt
#

it's not game breaking because it annoys your team

copper hawk
copper hawk
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I took 3 last night

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Cuz i had to be asleep for like

modern lintel
#

last week i had a day i slept for 19 hours uninterrupted

copper hawk
#

My glorious 6 hr 30 m army sleep

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Get volunteered by some shitbag to drive ppl and he shows up late

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Grr..

spare talon
copper hawk
#

What a meowthful !

modern lintel
spare talon
modern lintel
copper hawk
mint brook
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Asking again for people interested, what after stealth steroid could shroudfield be given to compete with FOTF?

tame sluice
#

make it a very funny ability is what you could do

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I have a horrible idea for you

mint brook
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I mean to be the stealth is fun

tame sluice
#

make shroudfields maximum duration 3 seconds, but every time you kill an elite/specialist while under its effects you regain shroudfield for another 3 seconds

clever swan
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teleport behind the biggest enemy in a group, do extra backstab damage, and then after that's done a few high cleave slashes in all directions fly out (like the classic anime move where they swing and then sheathe and then a bunch of slices happen somehow)

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might be op but i guess it depends on the values involved

tame sluice
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so you can murder everything in a 10 mile radius in the blink of an eye but if you ever don't one shot something you lose it and it goes on cooldown

mint brook
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I try to avoid changing the shroudfields function, in terms of animations, and also avoid giving it more stealth

tame sluice
#

yeah

frosty herald
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(the superior stealth class)

mint brook
#

So if it was a simple steroid, what would be fine

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15% finesse?

frosty herald
tame sluice
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hit em with ONE OF THESE

celest jolt
#

shade didn't have the mobility options and until death

mint brook
celest jolt
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and dr

frosty herald
copper hawk
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Troo !!

copper hawk
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The template was right there fatshark ,, except u did it the worst way first ,,

frosty herald
#

dont point out the obvious flaws in my arguments

tame sluice
#

I mean shade did have pretty good mobiliy

copper hawk
#

They could just have made talents in vt2 just talents in this game on the tree

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Instead of using the whole ass pick a talent system

tame sluice
#

20% move speed on crit is nothing to scoff at

celest jolt
#

sure but darktide in general has more

frosty herald
tame sluice
#

just don't get hit

frosty herald
#

explode

copper hawk
#

Thinking cap over here

frosty herald
#

shade also had a massive qol feature

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you could pass through enemies whilst in stealth

copper hawk
tame sluice
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It's how I played Pyromancer Sienna hilariously wrong by using it as the fastest moving melee class in the game

celest jolt
#

giving the tankiest class also stealth was sure a decision

copper hawk
#

Somethin i love seein ingame is shroudfield users attempt to return to the game to revive ppl

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Cuz they abandoned up on their knife adventure

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Use shroudfield as a get out of jail free card without dodging or moving

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And get whapped w a crusher/mauler overhead

tame sluice
mint brook
tame sluice
#

these 3 talents with sienna knife

copper hawk
#

Cuz they didnt dodge after popping it lmfao

tame sluice
#

absurd movement speed

copper hawk
frosty herald
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until i saw dorn's zealot tree and cole giving me tips to path through stuns

mint brook
#

But yes as said, i try to add an after stealth steroid, question is what would be most useful and fun

copper hawk
#

Cooldown reduction on targets killed

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Anything that encourages killing things

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On elite/special kill idk

acoustic dune
#

if we count elite krill only?

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a good example is the one on psycher

copper hawk
#

Lots of buffs, not a lot of encouragement to indicate the use of the ults on a lot of the ults ive noticed

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In the game rn

jovial cosmos
#

Cdr on special kill is already op as is

copper hawk
#

Nah bwo it's balanced on vet

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6 flat seconds on any special kill

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Tbh all cdr should be a percent over time imo

celest jolt
#

it's going to happen once they get around to other trees

jovial cosmos
#

I thought it was different per ability

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Unless vet is just built different

mint brook
copper hawk
#

More stealth is fine - the issue is the stealth rn encourages just fucking off

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There's no reward for actually killing anything more than one thing

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We need something to distinguish it from chastise while also encouraging active participation in combat

mint brook
copper hawk
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Shade has that w that talent

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A steroid + cdr would be a good combo, but at a lower level

mint brook
#

And maybe, listen here, remove the move speed and add moving through targets

copper hawk
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Something to be used during an engagement with a long cooldown if you dont kill anything

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To punish people, or at least discourage them, from just popping it and fucking off

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Raise the base cooldown w the steroid as part of taking it

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Given the option of keeping mobi or taking another node/talent that reduces cooldown based on elite/specials killed

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Either in stealth or immediately following it

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Like shade

heady rapids
#

are we coming back to "vt2 did something better than dt"

frosty herald
heady rapids
#

pretty sure that's also true for zealot

mint brook
heady rapids
#

with heart of iron being a passive

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and thp being a thing

mint brook
#

And if we add the move speed back, it should be seperate from stealth

frosty herald
heady rapids
#

and they made an ogryn but small

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so better ogryn

misty nova
#

Both also tauntbot so that's that

hushed knoll
misty nova
#

💀

heady rapids
#

or cockhammer

placid fiber
#

Did a malice assassination mission to get my last one out of 8 missions contract done, got to 1 shot the boss with my thammer lol

hushed knoll
#

What?

undone pewter
misty nova
mint brook
misty nova
#

Until then

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Kickback vs Grudgeraker

heady rapids
mint brook
#

Good i just ate

heady rapids
#

but mold is a good thing?

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means the food is natural

acoustic dune
heady rapids
#

yeah dumbass I eat the cake BEFORE it gets molsy

acoustic dune
#

cheese

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maybe

frosty herald
#

Trollhammer torpedo

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Or as darktide calls it

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The lascannon

placid fiber
acoustic dune
#

a nuke range for zealot would be great

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on vet

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sound op af

placid fiber
#

I feel like the crusher 1 shot breakpoint requires disdain or sustained assault stacks because mine didn't 1 shot with chastise, blade active, and the sprint stab on top of 3 marty stacks... I don't have 10% elite damage on this

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... my 2nd zealot's relic blade only has 76% finesse and with 5 marty stacks it left the crusher with 2hp... my 3rd zealot has one with 80 in finesse and it did 1 shot the crusher with 5 marty stacks... >.>'

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This was with 0 marty stacks

twin wagon
placid fiber
#

the 1 shot either requires sustained assault stacks, disdain stacks, or duellist to be up <.<

solar gorge
#

star wars bounty hunter looking ass

solar gorge
#

ignore the warbond and take a gander at this scrumptious factory strider jammer

twin wagon
#

I played too much stronghold crusader

frosty herald
misty nova
#

Oh that's the factory strider?

solar gorge
#

i get them all for free anywayz

ornate bone
copper hawk
#

Keep it, to close distance

undone pewter
acoustic dune
#

except the lase revolver look yucky

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then again

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we arleady have a revolver

frosty herald
#

lol lmao

undone pewter
#

They've been doing less content for ages but noone cares

acoustic dune
#

well better then minecrap over there

undone pewter
#

See I agree but the problem is they take weapons and armour and put them in the shop

acoustic dune
#

(even has greedy)

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still better then the other games

frosty herald
#

still greedy

acoustic dune
#

atleast with warbond we dont need to wait for stuff to be in rotation to get specific perk

acoustic dune
frosty herald
#

not wasting my time on warbonds that dont respect your time

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and im not throwing away 10 bucks at something that is free

heady rapids
#

wait

#

we are talking helldivers

#

nv m

frosty herald
#

shitdivers yes

heady rapids
#

yeah helldivers is a pass for me

acoustic dune
#

i have less to complain about poop diver since i payed 20 dilla

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for like 3 warbond

heady rapids
#

i pay 60 for a game

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or was it 40?

copper hawk
#

U can make similar ults different by covering things not in their ults

frosty herald
#

i got the game for free😌

acoustic dune
#

40

heady rapids
#

and then i either grind orrrr

frosty herald
#

i shouldve grinded 20k credits when the exploit was still in the game

acoustic dune
#

prob month 10th on this year they gonna work on the reward system

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also FINALLY SAMPLE HUNTING PERK

undone pewter
frosty herald
#

5% chance a credit pickup can be 100 credits and replace every weapon and requisition pickup with super credits

acoustic dune
#

on harder mission

frosty herald
#

Everyone despises requisition drops

acoustic dune
#

difficulty

hearty nebula
#

req drops should be banned after difficulty 5

#

like

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you don't need them at that point

acoustic dune
#

but we need to wait for like 5 month for that to even be considered

frosty herald
#

Also weapon drops

heady rapids
#

also fps drops

frosty herald
#

You dont need them

acoustic dune
#

i also wish for more electric weapons

#

i wanna get a use out of electric weapon

solar gorge
#

all thing teslas are stupid strong so you can get plenty of use out of those

hearty nebula
#

i also want more electric weapons but also the way electric works rn is stupid

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since it's attracted by corpses & basic map geometry bits

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and blocked by fucking leaves

acoustic dune
#

the tesla gun is also neat

sullen forge
solar gorge
#

infinite ammo, perma stun, can hit multiple targets

#

yeah bro it's shit trust me

acoustic dune
#

wish tesla tower does no damage with armor perk

sullen forge
#

You will enjoy it being incredibly inconsistent

solar gorge
#

(doesn't know anything about nothing)

hearty nebula
#

it's ok

#

just takes fucking forever to kill anything

acoustic dune
sullen forge
#

Sometimes we take the Arc Tower to purposely TK idiots

acoustic dune
#

can hold nmultiple hulk

acoustic dune
#

shit agaisnt tyranids doh

hearty nebula
#

i remember that time someone dropped a 380 on my head while i was in a bot outpost (the really large one with the single cannon tower on top)

sullen forge
#

YES WALK TOWARDS THE GIANT SPARKING STICK SURELY IT WONT SEND 10000 VOLTS TO YOU

acoustic dune
#

idk about the squid doh

hearty nebula
#

flew down with my jump pack and just domed them in the head right then and there

solar gorge
acoustic dune
frosty herald
#

Give dominator 100% durable damage

solar gorge
#

both

acoustic dune
#

ir bith

mint brook
#

This is my attempt at fixing shroudfield using your guys feedback.
Rushing through the map is now much harder, while emphasising you to stick in combat with shroudfield.
As i aim to do with right tree, all bonuses are significant but at major downsides, while fotf will be better at prolonged fight and safer, shroudfield should allow for riskier but more rewarding results

hearty nebula
#

oh yeah eruptor is also hopefully epic again

solar gorge
#

and it's the same on bugfront

acoustic dune
solar gorge
#

tesla stuff just make you go afk

#

purgatus psyker style

acoustic dune
solar gorge
#

heavy pen

frosty herald
#

Heavy pen

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
#

slugger is also reverted to launch stats

acoustic dune
#

WE ARE SO BACK

hearty nebula
#

you can actually fucking aim the damn thing again

solar gorge
#

bot cities with heavy unit spawners are in too

frosty herald
#

If only people could actualy see what durable damage changes were made to the penentrator

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If only they didnt ban such info from their discord

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
#

tf is durable damage?

sullen forge
frosty herald
hearty nebula
#

so you have damage

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and then you have durable damage

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
#

durable damage is basically how easily it destroys body parts/armor

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or some map items (crates being the primary example)

acoustic dune
#

especially with the Sycle and supply backpack

frosty herald
acoustic dune
#

so like explosion damage in a way

frosty herald
hearty nebula
#

i'm sad that they didn't give arc thrower the durable damage it had before

frosty herald
#

that doesnt mean youll deal full damge to enemies

hearty nebula
#

it was awesome for opening up crates

acoustic dune
solar gorge
#

no that's not durable

#

that's something else entirely

#

demo force

acoustic dune
#

since the normal guns and smg doest

sullen forge
#

Arc weapons 🤝 Laser weapons

Not needing to call a supply drop in every 3 minutes

hearty nebula
#

im forgor

solar gorge
#

nope

frosty herald
#

oh yeah

#

durable damage ballistic damage

solar gorge
#

demolition force is purely for buildings

acoustic dune
#

activate it for arc aoe

#

including you

sullen forge
#

I’d rather just use a portable hellbomb at that point

frosty herald
#

durable damage is explained nowhere in the game or any media

#

but its arguably one of the most important things to know

sullen forge
#

Is it literally

#

Armor and Limb Damage

acoustic dune
solar gorge
#

not explaining dmg types is a darktide reference

frosty herald
#

explosions ignore enemy armor

sullen forge
#

Fatshark reference

frosty herald
#

so theyll always deal full damage

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
acoustic dune
#

i relly need a bolter ingame

solar gorge
#

i think it'll need 2 bolts to kill a hulk in the weakspot

hearty nebula
#

before it was just insanely good chaff clear

frosty herald
hearty nebula
#

it wasn't even that great against heavy units

sullen forge
#

Just going to casually say

#

Why

frosty herald
#

tldr the damage show on the weapon does not correlate to the damage you will deal

#

eruptor will be a monster now

solar gorge
#

it depends on what ur hitting

hearty nebula
# frosty herald

friendly reminder btw that an AMR can bring down gunships in two hits on their engines

acoustic dune
frosty herald
#

counterpoint

#

i almost always use the spear

sullen forge
#

Counterpoint

#

Laser cannon

acoustic dune
#

counterpoint

hearty nebula
#

AMR is faster than both of those options

frosty herald
#

i do not care

sullen forge
#

Total Robot Death

acoustic dune
#

pocket precision strategem

solar gorge
#

drone grenade can one shot gunships and will auto seek

sullen forge
#

I do not need supply drops

#

Like you

#

Ohohoh

hearty nebula
#

fake

#

i just pick up ammo at POIs

#

:3

solar gorge
#

woe resupply backpack upon you

hearty nebula
#

yuck

solar gorge
#

(totally balanced backpack)

frosty herald
solar gorge
#

peak for anything tbh

acoustic dune
frosty herald
#

also something really fun

acoustic dune
#

GOD WE NEED A LOADOUT SAVER

frosty herald
#

melee damage ignores enemy armor

acoustic dune
frosty herald
#

yuppers

acoustic dune
#

asking since i like to run to the hulk back and stab him till it dies

#

that and tanks

frosty herald
acoustic dune
#

dont like peak phisique much

solar gorge
#

basically the hitbox of the melee goes thru the armoured part and hit whatever's behind it