#zealot-class
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no its just skill issue on my end
Relic Blade + Bolt Pistol
and not enough time with it
I like the look of the heavy sword a lot but fighting armor with it sucks
thats why you cover that with a ranged that melts armor
and that's why you have a gun
HS eats ragers mutants and hordes
Yeah i know
Hsword is great against most things (especially mixed hordes), but bad against Carapace and mediocre against Unyielding, that's what the Bolter is for
Same principle as the relic
I'm usually switching to bolter for any armor or monstrosities I come across
you can kill like 8 ragers in a single swing or something like that with fotf
Use a relic sword instead
except relic deletes armor
i like using my brain sometimes so no
Being a zealot means no thoughts but devotion to the God-Emperor.
Relic is a better all rounder, but an hsword can be fun to use still just because it's fast and deletes hordes of shotgunners, ragers, and gunners
Iirc it had the fastest hordeclear times for zealot before relic blade dropped
(sometimes i want to run immos) what should i use the last 2 on?
Fast enough you can play sloppy and not really get punished much for it which is fun
primarilly chaxe
any ideas what the bps are?, i forgot
use mk2 if u wanna do wombo combos and be fancy 
im bad with numbers all i know is they fkn die
im sure the stat bros here know tho
I'll get some more games with relic then, I think I'm being sloppy with it that's why I'm getting frustrated with mixed armored hordes
which mark do you prefer?
Like too many crushers and maulers I feel like I'm not doing too well
Mk10, but i haven't really touched mk2 yet so i can't really say that for sure
I play mk10 with blazing piety
for crushers and maulers
power it up
H1 > H2 > L3
or
PA > H2 > L3
and make use of the charged thrust its super good, create distance and abuse it
also powered up l1 spam eats a rager pack and stuns them straight up
I gotta create distance more, i think I'm fucking up there
You can dodge slide sideways and trigger the thrust if you slide long enough
Also like
Powered light spam is great for keeping enemies back when you're pressured
oh yeah most important tip is you should make use of the sword length, its absurdly long and helps u stay safe
The relic has this annoying thing where if i sprint and power it, it stuns me for a bit, like there's a weird animation lock
wait like 1-2 seconds until your character changes the holding animation then power it up
its smooth that way
Here's a havoc build you probably don't want to use for normal matches but I did put every combo I could think of on it for mk10 https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb3dff-4759-499a-80aa-6f95e81981a9/havoc-support-zealot
also a fotf with a powered thrust = crusher 1 shot
you want wrath for high havocs
Yeah i do that often when I can. It's a little uncomfortable to do on controller cuz I have to dual grip the trigger and the shoulder, so more often than not I end up doing a fotf powered heavy slash instead, but that also nearly one shots
oh that sucks
It's not that bad
i play on kbm so dont run into that thankfully 🙏
Yep that's in the notes at the bottom
But ty you're absolutely right
Dual axes when, FS?
I am actually compeltley unsure what to grab
Was gonna ping dreg rager but they appear to be gone or renamed
They rage for heresy, we rage for the God Emperor. We are not the same
ohg i didnt see the notes lmfao
Zealots are here to preach, not to read
based and illiteracypilled
Literate in space racism only
No dual wield melee, they're holding out for when we can finally combine 1H melee + pistol in the iconic 40k style (coming in 2031, four years after Vermintide 3 release)
The God-Emperor demands the skulls of xenos and heretics for His Throne
Blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne
i've been replaying metro 2033 on ranger hardcore for the first time in centuries and it has no ui elements
this includes when you have to press the context interact key to make the game progress
Evis15+ any combat shotgun
Cole swinging two taxes, killing 2 dh at once
there have been multiple times where nothing is happening and i forgot i have to hit E on something to make it happen because they were just like "remove it ALL." we need this in darktide
Ok but only if we also get "Oops! All UI" too
I wanna try the evis, it felt cool to lvl up. And I liked the funni dual rev fotf crit thing it had to melt bosses
terrible. haven't you seen those screenshots where someone has installed the worst UI mod known to man and 1/3rd of their screen is just cancer?
Me when I cannot see any enemies past their health bars
the healthbars mod is so ugly
i stop watching any clip that has them because i will not subject my eyes to that filth
have STANDARDS
Some people's huds are horrendous
No but I'm thinking something like this
Bro got that skull and bones
The fucking ubisoft UI
the quadruple A game
A UI only suitible for the most hardcore of ADHD
I used to use them but stopped when I realized I was looking for health bars and not enemies
Yea someone made that when ER came out and some ubisoft and horizon devs were being super critical of the ui and the game itself
LMFAO i forgot about that
change ubi ui to monster hunter ui 
literally wtf am i looking at whenver i watch a clip
Mh ui is insane but usable by comparison,and heavily customizable
tbh the stuff darktide good players TM put on their screen is pretty funny too
i get why they do it but it looks ugly af
Btw, what perks and blessings do you use for the relic blade? I've been changing that thing literally all the time, kinda wanna settle on smth.
Atm perks are unyielding and carapace, blessings are cranial and wrath
carnial + rampage
i have carpace and unyielding on it but u can replace either with flak
carnial and wrath for havoc
What's the difference between rampage and wrath?
Cuz i have seen that
carapace elites
rampage u get more dmg if u hit 3 things
wrath adds more cleave
wrath gives cleave
oh yeah elites is great
Like specially saying wrath for havoc but rampage for others
high havoc multiplies enemy hitmass values
so cleave is needed to hit more than like
3-4 enemies per swing
rampage actually adds power, not just damage
so it increases damage, cleave, and stagger
however it only increases it by 36%
so the damage buff is nice
its nothing compared to the cleave buff of 200% from wrath
but that cleave isnt really needed in aurics
which is why people say cranial rampage for normal, cranial wrath for havoc
completely forgot that rampage also adds cleave and stagger lol
the terms in this game man
That would stack to killing maulers and crushers better wouldn't it? Or am i wrong here
nothing can cleave carapace except a couple of specific weapon blessings (perfect strike, for example)
so maulers yes
but not crushers
Not the cleave, the perks in that case
Sunder
smite 😔
oh yah
The carapace + elite dmg perks
and any psyker weapon
That's nice
Zealots hear me out
I felt that on a spiritual lvl....
What if we replaced smite with smoke
Which allows psyker to spread the smoke grenade effect at will
I'm sure this will be greatly appreciated
oh sunder is just perfect strike but on heavies instead of crits
neat
Give psyker a massive blunt for it
its the same .25 hitmass multiplier
Yam
You are the only person I've ever met that gets excited for content you won't engage with

Which content are we talking
Sunder on Relic Blade when
Damn near most things
ok hear me out for realsie this time
dual weapon
why cant we go 2 axe like the rager?
Fr fr
Emperor is a mog lord
Shouty caught lacking
Best we can do is slow mode + no image perms for a week for all of zealot chat
Plus I arleady got banned once
For being too racist
Damn that's impressive for a 40k game community
El Patchie took the reigns
I made a too racy joke
Keep patchiemato contained
otherwise your wessex cucumber waterfall morph accel feint to kick drag will glance
and your opponent will counter you by surprise underhand accel chamber jpeg
Dayumn that's some Stan levels of stroke text
Where's the rainbow overhead to feint
To kill bind
It's morshau
don't forget to spam cc2 to hide your grunt and add additional packets, so the packet loss is worse on the enemy
Xx2 in you enemy face too make panic parry
comfiest sleeping spot
what
What a cute floof pretzel
What is keybing for friendly voiceline again?
Also I wanna xx4 it
Peak devs
My copy of Mordhau is a bit weird
Get chiv outta here
Bigj
We must convince the non-believer to join the patchie cult
Kick feint kick his ass
reject Torn Banner
I cant be bothered with Mordhau anymore 
What if all 3 of us ran triple bear trap
and we just ran around laughing at people and fleeing into the TRAP ZONE
Irish voice line
Would be funny but i dont even know how the playerbase is doing 
It's getting back ish
Either too sweaty or just empty
We just got new player not long ago
Just chamber a drag
Did not the devs really abandoned it, the way they delivered updates is just so slow paced
Or accel
Really one or two updates per year
Huh
OK hear me out
Never heard of it
What if we all run spear with beartrap
Though I remember seeing the Demon horde mode which look interesting but also so out ofplace 
Hunt.exe
Better idea
It's assets for their next game
What if we pike them with training sword
The last dev that worked for the game, Geach left
And crush is enjoying been a millionare at 40 (retired, washed even)
Didn't crush leave 2 years ago?
Omg wolfy hi owo notices u
What if we Bec their Corbins with 18 Oakeshotts (I have no idea what is happening)
C2
WOLFY PLEASE NOTICE ME
Hi pan...
Pan?
Lads can we show sand to the dung convention
I heard that the devs have been just wasting their money earned through some stupid shit
So i guess it is all connected same universe? 
Tbh the only reason i don't like chiv 2
Is that I can't directional swing
What
Been a while since I was playing a lot last year but I think you can with combos
Apparently they've just used it to get an actual physical studio
and the rest went straight into Crush retirement fund
Yeah but that's combo
I am a chamber bot
I have a NEED to chamber
One day I'll get so good I can even chamber himself
And or m1911
don't forget the blunderbus
I'll just turn around and use my pavisse shield or smth
With flesh wound
Chamberbot meet bufferbot
God I live forming a queue to take turn for the ballista
Perfect score into the basket 
is the rashad build anything special orrr?
God I need my 1.5 mil maximalian feather helmet
ty :3
I fucking had to do a double take when I saw not otz vid
ill send this again since my discord did a funny, for immos hows this, (this is for a chaxe build) not sure what to spend the other 2 points on
acceptable
I think people aren't responding to this because the average build here doesn't use immo nades and people aren't sure where you'd get the most benefit from two additional points while using the preceding nodes
oh wait did it fully send before
Me included 
drop faithful frenzy for twbs maybe?
I at least saw it before, no worries
This is a good idea imo
Did tknifes get a buff or smth?
Chaxe is kinda slow and twbs would help
tknives cost the least in terms of points
you can get to all the good nodes without anything extra if you grab knives
Tknives are about where they've been at for a while they're just good value between how quickly you can toss one, how many specials / elites go down in a single headshot on damnation, and using them to draw a bolter or flamer more quickly
And the nodes preceding tknives are hot fire
my only problem with them is they kinda conflict with zarona
still with the xii? :3
Yeah they definitely sit in a similar niche, if you wanted to use both you could use the zarona for armored targets and far / moving targets that are harder to reliably hit with a tknife while conserving zarona ammo and reducing the amount of time you spend reloading for smaller, closer targets
i more mean they kinda have the same(ish) purpose
knives help u save zerona ammo 
I'm not 100% sure but the 12 still feels slow enough to warrant twbs from my experience
fair, would a tknives chaxe build just be the normal zealot skill tree?
Probably lol
And also synergize with each other
Not to mention that most zealot melees do enough to where the only things you may need are armor dmg or sniping from your gun/blitz, which revolver does both and knife does special sniping, and both with revolver
also whatr mod is that to show crit chance? :0
Chaxe 12 is a good candidate for immo nades tho since it's not a great horde clearer
fair, but ye, zarona is my favourite weapon in a game
You're never gonna guess what it's called
wtf happened here 
i believe in chaxe 4 supremacy 
crit chance
Surgical tknife
Show crit chance
Anoint, carapace perk, surgical+hc, and duellist
idk how it does now, but spamming lights with the xii used to be fine :(
Duellist applies to guns too and people forget that
i never use knifes when i have my guns out so i forgot that your gun buffs apply to the knife dang
With bolter and flamer I throw a knife to animation cancel lmao
yeah i do that too
With pucture bolter when doing that, the knife applies bleed too
never noticed cause the poor fella that ate the knife when im pulling out the bolter is gonna get boltered to death
gonna play around with his knowledge now 
Knives on their way to have a chance proccing Showstopper
speaking about duelist dont let the guys in ogryn chat touch zealot
they wanna take away our toys
is shedder also a dump on chaxe orrrr?
No lol
Shredder is your rev damage
Dump defences
wait someone here showed me this before i just forgot
lmao
dont remember who
but they posted a clip of a 1 knife cleaving multiple ragers
showstopper procs
show goes on as though nothing happened
What did fatshark mean by this
Really depends on the targets ofc but here's some (questionable) havoc charts showing some clear times #zealot-class message
Clear time for crushers on mk12 chaxe beats the Mk4, but it has the worst clear time listed for ragers and isn't even on the normal horde chart
wdym questionable lmao
It is missing some key pieces of information about how many enemies and how times were taken. Some weapons show zero time like the ogryn flippy shovels but then you have hsword mk9 with 10 second rager clear time and anyone who's held a deathblow hsword mk9 knows it'll kill 5 per swing when done correctly
Also the blessing listed make zero sense, some are only mk2/3 blessing and picks are not always optimal
real
Ogryn Foldable shovel legit being a one shot against pretty much everything
ig ill stick with to now until i am not broke
oh do we still not know why that sheet is so weird?
Ogryn flippy shovel is definitely going to one shot stuff but it's not accounting for any setup time, meanwhile the thunder hammer is at 7 seconds for a crusher kill?
Seems fishy
I certainly don't and lumii's not around to justify it anymore lol
orrr, should i use this and swap bloodthirsty to thrust?
real
That being said I don't know where else you'd find good horde clear numbers without doing it yourself
is shredder this low a bad idea? :3
Only our resident chaxe whisperer, @fleet zealot, would know
Casted out of being resident Chaxe user
Yummers
I'm so tired man
transcend beyond your corporeal shell into a higher being
like dan hentschel
closest you can get to a bolt action in this game
Yo mama
im curios, whats the ds talent tree?
Can mods reduce the game's performance? I kinda wanna get some to track my dodges and change my reticule, but my game is already dropping some frames. Are mods like these fine or will they be bad for my performance too?
meeeee
yes
some mods can significantly impact game performance
one of these mods that everyone uses is powerdi
i removed it cuz of its performance impact
I see
My old PC would frequently crash when using Weapon Customization mod due to running out of memory
Damn
i have not heard of that one
PowerDI was mentioned, I think even the less intense Scoreboard mods can hurt performance on lower spec systems
Well no mods for me then
Yeah I dropped powerdi for performance too
Scoreboard good enough for my needs at least
nah
most mods are fine
and some of them are kinda required
like numeric ui
cuz of all the info the game just... hides from you for no reason
enhanced descriptions, etc
Yeah I don't think any other mods really cause a significant change in performance, maybe the one that makes it easier to see past flamer / psyker effects but that'd improve it
those mods (numericUI, crosshair customization, show crit chance) have pretty minimal impact, but powerDI for example can be pretty heavy
quality of life stuff like the mod that raises your cpu priority for the game (increased performance, computer will cull less prioritised programs for resources for the game), etc
Love calling out a MF for topping off on ammo when there's an orange ammo on the team
power di is the exception that proves the rule
I honestly just want smth to count my dodges and change my reticle. I hate throwing knives with the non existant melee reticle. Scoreboard also sounds cool tho tbh
reinferret
Reading off exactly how many ammo drops each person has taken is peak
Oh that sounds great
Numeric UI will show dodge count for sure
Wtf is powerdi
Numeric ui does this
Crosshair remap and others r also important
psych ward is amazing
It's like scoreboard but shows more in depth stats like effective crit % and accuracy and time spent netted
Yah
It gathers and saves the data periodically through a match
Which can harm performance
oh yeh, what also was the mod that people use to show cleave, if thats what its for
I Don't really need that tbh, scoreboard is fine, but also kinda not needed
My pc is pretty high end and removing just that one mod reduced my stuttering issue almost entirely
Yah
Numeric ui, crosshair remap, and you said a cpu performance one too?
does any1 know what the active parry time is for devil claw
If I did I probably wouldn't suck ass with it 
cause other cole me told 250ms but this seems ages longer then 250
Other cole probably knows
It lasts even longer than the animation
Like a few ms after you lower the blade
I have been playing a bit with it recently
But i can't say specific ms
idk where i was ever trying to go w it anyway i was just trying to think if it could actually be done cole tells me 250 that sounds crazy fast i go to test it and its ez
It highly depends what mods you install, some can massively impact the perfomance
i wanted to install the one that adds scopes but ive seen people complain about perf drops
any ideas what its called?
@frosty herald volkite pistol.............
Inferno pistol
peakite pistol
Yuppers the test server
inferno pistol is going to be insane just wonder what classes theyre going to put it on also wonder what weapons theyre talking abt when saying their gonna allow some classes to share others

Probably all
well
Theyre loosening weapon restrictions on classes
Weapon customazation one
what
The other pistols are for all classes so it kinda makes sense
Make it be the bolter carbine so its balanced
Space marine 2
i need that storm bolter on all classes too 
yes yes give sniper the multi melta
well
i thought you guys were talking about darktide and was gonna check the patch notes again
nah
darktide only lets playtesters take a sneek peek at what they';re cooking up.......
ALSO
Yep that shit got me too
Like the space Marines need more pistols smh
final boss for new map
look inside
campaign lictor
thank u saber very cool
well
(i dont know what the new boss is)
are there any instances of inferno pistols in modern 40k games
played my first tabletop 40k with friends on tabletop simulator
my 2 lictors ate a dreadnaught in one turn
nom nom nom
big raveneer
space marine 2 ?
why does blood look like dr house
thats woods
battlefleet gothic 2 is suprisingly good still
dont go and spam the test server feedback with bugs and crashes
well now im gonna
cause you told me not to
ALSO
ALSO
ALSO
TACTICAL IRON HANDS CHAMPION

cleanest looking motherfucker
Mf completely clean of shaders
take notes fatkark!
Calus ass
WHAT
is that the imperial fist champion
stoopid
That's what arco's space marine 2 game probably looks like
(they didnt)
thats imperial fists sorry.........
i hope you explode immediately
i mix the ufkcing hands fists whatever
i havent seen any iron fist chapter pack nor champion pack for sm2
i feel gw completely forgot thousand sons exist in 30k
7 months in
this is year 1 of sm2
this is year 2 actually
they got the mfing white scars but not iron hands yea its so joever
methinks
DLC
“Space Wolves” Chapter Pack: present in-game but not playable.
"Imperial Fist" Champion Pack: present in-game but not playable.
means we'll get the preview of it
they just skipped salamanders and went into space wolves lmfao
space wolves champion looks horrifying btw
well they got a champion
same as fists
fists also got only a champ
no successors no armor parts
now listen to me very closely
that leaked list is the order of CHAPTER PACKS
not champion
ultramarines dark angels raven guard salamanders
rg is a cosmetic pack
salamanders was supposed to be for season 4
ultramarines had two packs neither were a chapter pack
ur wrong.........
no chapter 4 u
glorp
ultramarines cosmetic pack is a chapter pack explode into 1 billion pieces
it isnt.................
preorder bonus is a champion pack
first dlc is a cosmetic pack
black templars when
true
fellow xenophobes
karker
u karking karker
i am interested on what the dsword talents are, or is it just unintresting
Witch!
Oh idk teehee
reason 84 for being evil
I'm not xenophobic—I don't fear xenos, I hate them
Dueling Sword can run whatever talents it wants, the only drawback is poor horde clear, so bring a Flamer and the talents that help the Flamer (Throwing Knives and Anoint In Blood) along with whatever flavor of Standard Pattern Zealot you feel like
I'm playing some more hades 1 and I just decimated a miniboss with the spear because I had the triple strike and deflect on attack... it was the witches in the 2nd area that projectile spam you... that projectile spam destroyed them lol
If you take the Mk5 Dueling Sword you can pair it with Inexorable Judgement for truly silly dodges
I'm getting offered 10% damage resistance... I'm not gonna pass up taking 10% less damage from everything for the rest of this run >.>
oh and I can pom it, fuck yeah
Gnarp?
I love athena on: the spear, the fists, the shield, and the sword... wait that's every melee weapon lol
talking about athena making think of that one shen comic
about the girl lifter
oh, i was told ds had pretty good horde managment
I really like this keepsake, in hades 1... If you put it on for elysium you can sometimes have buffs from the thing after the boss fight that last until hades <.<
shen comics are almost always peak
what zealot build do you least expect a good player to be using
eh...? Not sure how to feel about this hammer option... I might as well give it a try since I got a +50% dash strike bonus from chaos...
loner chorus
marty
duelling sword with chorus
with uh... stun nades
and they make it work
what do you mean
and no 40% dr on 1 wound in hp damage
its always peak
bike
poor ogryn in this pub
just got stuck with 3 zealots
blud is not going to have a moment of peace
oh like a build that is bad that they make work
and not a build that a bad player would run
they use any build and they chose the least popular
Does this option ever come in clutch, sometimes, during a higher end heat run? :/
i am trying to make a joke
but idk if i can make one
anyhow opened a big fuckoff tin can
If you lose all your DD then yeah
Extreme measures Theseus is annoying
The rats are annoying
The satyrs are annoying
Satyrs?
What's the plural of this annoying things
Brb
Yeah fuck the big rats and satyr mfs
I've had poison get out of hand and do like 150 damage to me before x.x
Silenus, Silenos, Sileni
This triple dash strike -25% range dash hammer "buff" feels weird... my dashes feel sluggish, but, I have the spear that makes you charge at it when you throw it with the special, so I can still use that for avoiding stuff :\
I don't think I am going to willingly take it again, unless I have some major dash strike bonus damage >.>'
Ow... I didn't play that fight out very well... I was at full hp when I went in... and I have 11.8% damage resistance... 😦
I hope FOTF will be gutted with zealot tree rework
Smite EP with shriek
Yes-ish
Its not good for damage, but the fact that it staggers anything but bosses makes it brainless
Smite EP + shriek is very good dmg
It hurts my soul to see a psyker smite bosses. Their brain has been so rotted. No thoughts, only smite
it's just so boring
it has very good damage
Actually yeah
scales with density so techinally it has infinite dps
Nah

Shoot into hordes


the most controversial skill in game
Rename your psyker into "ammo goblin"
also arguably the one that can carry you past 40 with the least issues
Win, cause your veteran, Glugger and zealot to ragequit
Does Gunker just turn into Melee psyker for anyone else?
Find a burgle
Ignore it and keep running
With the taxe or the fgs yeah
Gunker either becomes speedker or meleker
Barrelmancy+gunker tho is prob the fastest I've gone
24 units
Gunpsyker/Melee/Assail are pretty much all the same build
3 times the speed of a mutant
Trees very narrow
Also fgs special + bistol puncture + shriek is excellent ranged DMG. You just dot the entire screen
i remenber down in a almost empty room just to sit and see a psycher smite a shit mob
i died
the smykers was 5 meter away
Watching a smyker try to clutch is a form of torture for sure
Bruh, no one is alive, what is smiting going to do
it was a form torture in any route
prob gonna die from trash mob
thats why the smike so much
Yes
A good psyker will turn off the game
A bad psyker will turn off the game
It just so happens that the bad psyker will have some really bad habits
what would pressing g do then?
confetti
amazing
Auric histg spawn director putting out bursters and mutants at just the right time to have the mutants push the bursters against smite knock back so they blow up on the smyker 
Charged Strike if it was good


everyone get flung like they get hit by a giant barrel
ooo 15% dr!
I've had this happen to me but with dogs pushing the bursters instead 
At least they specify that he's okay. :3
Welp time to probably die to hades... Maybe not since I have 3 death defies still :\
God of the dead 
I have gotten much better at not losing my death defies before him at least x.x
that and my abuse of the mini charon fountains helps >.>
The secret to Hades is to not be a wussy and dodge into him IMO
Ever since I found zagrius' mother in this I have been paying 10x more attention to the story.
I've been accidentally doing that and successfully dodging his spin attacks... it only works like... 1/3rd of the time since I don't know the timing and I am not doing it intentionally, but, I still have been avoiding some of them
i like the story
Thanks I hate it 😨
game has really good dialogue
wait what?! He just let me pass this time... -_-
ayyyy we take those
hades is sparing you
YOU HAVE TO READ?!!!? 
Well... I just beat heat 2 on the spear... because of hades saying: "Fuck you" to me and my build...
impossible
Lemme know how you feel
holy fuck she's going back to the underworld 😮
Does this mean I can finally get he last 2 keepsakes?
does crit dclaw still use rampage and shred + flakiac?
I think the dclaw is either rampage + shred/savage sweep or shred + rampage/savage sweep
Yes
And I got the end credits! Woo!
playing aroudn with combat blade shroud build, the ultimate douch build ... need the penancesfor knives and shroud and loner, which mark of blade shoudl i use and shoudl i use both the crit bleed stack and the non weak spot ? right now im playing aroudn withthe bleed on crit and 100% backstab rending
It only took me 37.5 hours <.<'
You got the first end credits, but what about second end credits?
I literally haven't even gotten past heat 4 on any weapon... not yet <.<'
aim for 32
Heat 1 was easy for me cuz I knew what I wanted: -25% healing
i played on hell mode so i was forced to play 5 heat minimum...
That's what I did in hades 2 cuz -25% and -50% healing were pretty easy choices for 2 points in
I enjoyed Extreme Measures 4 for 10 Heat, and it felt like 4 new boss fights
The extra damage from traps is also a pretty easy heat mod
tho I did +20% damage instead of -50% healing for heat 2 <.<'
extreme measures 4 is good content
definitely try it once
I can't wait for my last 2 keepsakes to be obtained
I'm a collector, in both this game and hades 2... when it comes to keepsakes and weapon aspects and companions >.>'
the end credits song ended because I kept tabbing out of the credits... so it pauses where I was in the credits while it was still playing the end credits music
There's only 1 heat modifier I don't think I will ever use: the one that makes you have # minutes to escape each area... I like taking my time, and I hate having a timer making me try to kinda rush >.>'
I never touched the timer condition in 2, and I am 98% certain I will not touch it in 1... until much higher heat values...
I will do every other heat on the board before I do the fuckin timer.
like first pact for timer is 9 minutes per region and it accumulates.
Do your runs take 36 minutes?
Timer is actually pretty manageable
^ Frog gets it.
I cheese enemies when I'm in a bad situation.
And that takes some time.
I do 7 minute timers pretty regularly except on bow
I get it helps you play hades better, technically(I think anyway)... but I do not like feeling like I am being rushed. :\
Like miniboss in asphodel is impossible with sword until you get regenerating casts.
Fucking witches with armor, man.
timer also removes timed rooms
I find those rooms mildly annoying so that's a benefit for me
It also pauses when you are choosing boons and such
WAIT IT WHAT
I didn't know it got rid of the "hades says fuck you" rooms.
the rooms where you have to survive x amount of time
I still have some heat 0 rewards to grab from beating hades... with like... all but 1 weapon
timer is paused during competitions with thanatos as well
so don't worry about those
Meh... I just don't want a timer edging me forwards. I like going at my own pace
maybe just turn on the speedrun timer in the settings just to see what your time would be like
Like, I avoided timer aswell until I actually tried it once and realized how much easier it was than I thought
Yay!
Ok so maybe I will turn on the 9min timer then.
just to get a feel for how long it takes you
For me it isn't about how easy it is, I just don't like being timed...
I figured it didn't get rid of thanatos comps or timed rooms.
Let's go
thanatos comps are still there but timer is paused
Does in pause in charons shop or npc rooms?
Like sisyphus's room?
And in conversations?
Frog... I beat heat 2 with the spear... cuz hades just let me pass this time... yay...? <.<'
No one expects that
i can't remember if just standing in the shop pauses it
You should play with Pact of Punishment enabled. (you start at heat 5)
but timer pauses in your pause menu so you can just think while pausing the game
i frequently pause when deciding which door to go to
it's habit at this point
I want each seperate level of heat reward for upgrading the weapons n buying work orders x.x
I'm not actually sure how that works with the Pact of Punishment.
I want to upgrade the aspects I love asap <.<
I have a mod that allows me to collect previous heat rewards so I can literally turn on everything and do one run with a weapon if I want.
I upgraded zagrius' of the shield to the max already, and I think I have the gun's hestia one at the 2nd to last level
doing hell mode starts you at heat 5 and the rewards go from 5-25
non-hell mode is 0-20
Still can't believe I got the time where hades just let me go on by, when I was on heat 2 with the spear lol
Zeus shield is fun and what I use the most
Frog said zeus on the shield throw is the go-to
I thought zeus special was the same as it was on the attack, I was surprised when it was just 1 zap
Still... I haven't gotten to use it much, yet
My last shield build was just an attack spam adrenaline rush with athena on the dodge and attack
the +15 base damage on the dash attack and attack was really nice for that, I think I got a chaos attack damage buff as wel
More shields wahahaha
oh btw, if you do intend to do 32 heat one day, i suggest practicing with 1 level of the increased enemy attack speed condition
It's a pretty brutal condition for only 3 heat, but when you climb that high, you don't have many options left
might as well get used to the speed
The picture has the right spear aspect in it, as well. How about that lol
dog
bestest 3 headed doggo ever :3
aw man I can't get hades' keepsake yet... so I am 1 short of all of em... 😦
wait is this what you were talking about? Or the zeus boon on the special? :\
Yes Zeus shield
It's basically a safe zone on demand
Yeah that shield is cracked
it's so much dps
pretty much a second person attacking
you can attack at the same time it's ticking
Hm... so it increases the damage from 8 to 13 from lvl 1 to lvl 2... does that mean it gives +20 more damage from lvl 1 to lvl 5? Something like 28 minimum damage per special?
or like 33?
That's quite powerful 😮
Throw shield with special> somehow still attacking with the shield 
oh it makes it a constant damaging area
That sounds good <.<
Does it synergize with zeus on it as well? >.>
Yeah, although controlling it takes some practice it is well worth the effort
Hi ice cream sundae frog 
yeah zeus special boon works well on it
it ticks often and at like the perfect speed to stay within the boon's rate limit
pretty much the most value you'll ever get out of zeus special boon
Hi screaming mushroom
so it travels up to a set distance away, based on where your cursor is?
hi stan
Hi darkpillthony
STAN
Hi wolfy
or to where your cursor is?
I am bout to cook dinner
WHERES THE HELDRITCH CREATURE THAT YOU HAVE CONSUME
having second?
??
how naughty of ye stan
something could just be chasing you and you could just walk with a spinning death shield hitting it constantly
I also noticed it can't get backstab damage
oh you can also still attack with it as well
yeah
unlike with the shield throw :\
Man... this is gonna take quite a few runs to get it upgraded a decent bit... but it looks worth it. Like Hestia on the gun.
I'm gonna see who I get for my 1st boon, otherwise I'm gonna take zeus' keepsake to see if I can get him on the special with this for a run
how bad is this heat setting? Just wondering >.>
It's a free +2 heat, at what seems to look like not that big of a cost
iirc some minibosses change a lot
which means I can turn off the +20% enemy damage for it... I need heat 3 for my next shield run for rewards :\
Which world cuisine will you be defacing today?
like the arena might change or they get a new mechanic
some just get a shield though
Eh... I only need 2 heat for my next gun run, I will probably do that 1 first >.>
I have lvl 4 hestia on it already
worth experiencing it at least
it is also the one with hunger or w/e
I am making chicken and vegetables
remember to cook the chicken stan
By doing this first if I win the run then I can get he zeus aspect to level 2 for the 1st run with it >.>
What kind of vegetables are those?
Stan what have i told you about raw chicken
Looking like angel hair, shredded Parm, and undercooked chicken thighs
ooo explosive shot with hestia on the gun again, I like that one >.>
Interesting to see red pepper flakes on there, I assumed Stan's the type to think oregano is too spicy
staaaaaaaaan
It’s not raw
Spaghetti squash
Hi
That is a pic from last week
I am making something similar tonight
Not undercooked
I don't remember how to get it but the last aspect of the rail is pretty interesting
Man hestia with a boon that gives good damage % slaps... I really like aphrodite on it, since it seems to give some of the higher end damage #'s with it >.>
Just melted Alectro lol
Do you know: Does this affect how fast I can throw the special after throwing it, or just how long I am in the animation of throwing it? The grenade, for the gun, I mean.
Hm, idk how accurate it is but when I googled about it the people on this reddit post seem to say that the grenade itself goes faster...
I thought it also decreased the charge time of your special
Oh, they were right. The grenade projectile goes way faster now
Can you spam it more often?
Not that I can tell, but, the grenade itself seems to land much faster
I see I see
while I kinda want 60% more rewards... since my special seems to land faster, I am probably gonna take the special from poseidon. :\
101% more special damage <.<
I don't think I can use the grenade faster... but I definitely am noticing how much faster the projectile is moving. Even with only +20% on the special speed
American billiards
Not bad. Tartarus has another bomber guy, Asphodel has some of the jumper dudes that fall from the ceiling, not sure what it does to Elysium.
You could always just take it and never go into a miniboss room.
iirc Poseidon is one of the best for Special damage, especially if you get some knockback synergy
disclaimer: it's been a minute since I played Hades 
Counterintuitive for Zeus shield.
btw those fate rerolls from the mirror are expensive af... :\
You want enemies to remain in the Zeus special.
I need a hell of a lot more shadow >.>'
Best special for Zeus shield is probably either Ares or Dionysus.
level 5 hestia + a strong % bonus attack boon fucking wrecks house
I actually feel like I am doing good damage vs bosses with it... and I only have +120% attack damage from aphrodite rn on it
this thing might also be helping, tbh... :\
wait... wouldn't this make hestia's bonus not able to be used?
I mean... I kinda don't care, tbh, since I really like not having to reload on the gun... it was hella fun for me the last time I got it, plus I still have explosive shots >.>
Afaik you can still press reload
No I can still reload for hestia's shot, I just tested it
Yup
👀
Ngl so thankful for the Brute Conscripts event only leaving me with Reapers which I got done with like 2 weeks ago
Cause holy shit the Ogryn Bestiary takes ages
Aye Gale
@grizzled aspen Hey, frog, I was just wondering something since you seem to know a lot about Hades 1... does fighting the minotaur make him weaker for the double fight at the end of elysium? Sometimes he just seems easier to take down when I am fighting him a 2nd time in a run...
No, he is just an easy miniboss for better than average boons.
Boons from miniboss rooms are always better than normal ones.
He does start the fight with like 25% less hp if you fight the minotaur miniboss
Sup
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Ah. Plus it helps give you extra practice for the duo fight at the end of elysium? >.>
A bit.
The dangerous part of that fight is dealing with Thesius after you kill the minotaur.
I'm trying to find people who're into anime and play dbd
Thesius is unironically harder than Hades, imo.
They added some dude from tokyo ghoul and I'm trying to figure out who tf he is
Show me who it is.
The big thing I strugle with against the minotaur is luring the charge into a pillar/wall... I end up trying to constantly dodge back and forth with it even tho I know getting him into the wall ends it...
I watched Tokyo Ghoul in its entirety + read the manga.
It's this dude
Yeah that's Kaneki, the main character.
(its a good fucking show go watch it)
Don't bother luring him into a wall.
He is unironically easier to fight if you just dodge through him.
He can't instantly 180.
Yeah, but, if I don't get him into a wall he ends up getting me when I mess up the dodge <.<'
I actually hated the anime
Like I said, the secret to Hades is to dodge at enemies

just like i was confused with cole's