zealot-class

[violet hornet]

I have never had a shrimp po boy

[plucky gate]

i feel like going on a nerd rant every time i see someone say gunner res diminishing returns, but i'll resist for now

anyways i like shrimp

[acoustic dune]

so do i

[acoustic dune]

i eat shrimp with da tail

the only reason of why

its because i am too lazy to peel

[violet hornet]

I run three gunner resist personally, I've just heard it a few times

That and I don't take snipers seriously since becoming competent with throwing knives

[plucky gate]

for me it just depends on the build and how much of a threat i consider gunners to be for it, but mathematically more gunner res actually benefits more

actually fuck it, i'll just resend the rant again

[acoustic dune]

we need a trapper resist

[violet hornet]

Barrel resist for teammates

[acoustic dune]

nah barrel multiplier

we balling

[acoustic dune]

also pox burster

[violet hornet]

Just so I can barrel people and tell them "run barrel resist if you don't wanna get barreled" despite it not changing them instantly dying from being flung into the abyss

[plucky gate]

tldr more each gunner res technically has more value than the last in terms of ehp, even if the % total reduction is lower

the real consideration of whether you still run more gunner resist is just whether you still care about gunners at that point

it's not bad though

[acoustic dune]

i run gunner resist only bc i dont wanna get melted

give me time to react

[plucky gate]

yeah same

[acoustic dune]

i run a dex zealot

[plucky gate]

i run more than i used to after havoc update

[acoustic dune]

and a gunner vet

and thats it

[plucky gate]

i used to run 1 on zealot 2 on psyker
now it's 2 on zealot 3 on psyker

[acoustic dune]

no keystone vet

cause i dont like there keystone

[plucky gate]

vet keystones are good but there are a few good builds without them

cause their other nodes are also good

I think recon vet is probably the most common keystoneless vet build

[acoustic dune]

i dont ping enourmously to use that keystone

and the gunner keystone

suck ass

hence i run no keystone vet

[plucky gate]

yeah the weakspot one is so cringe

[acoustic dune]

the one on the right

i run with dbarrel or plasma

smth with long reload

[visual stream]

Even then FT is huge for recon imo

[plucky gate]

middle and right keystone is good
but i can see people finding middle keystone annoying and right keystone not fitting some builds

[acoustic dune]

i only vet with recon

shooting in the shooting character class is fun

[visual stream]

I used to do the same

[acoustic dune]

whom had thunk it

[visual stream]

Is very easy fun

Double barrel was probably my first non-recon vet build

[acoustic dune]

the yellow brown recon gun goes well with vet

[visual stream]

Then currently I'm on shovel with bistol and grenade build

[visual stream]

The one that shoots relatively slowly but cleaves?

[acoustic dune]

yarp

[visual stream]

Yeah that's my favorite by far

[acoustic dune]

i perfer the fast shoot one with zealot

[visual stream]

One poxwalker doesn't waste 2x your ammo when you're trying to hit gunners

Plus hitting 2x as many gunners if lined up

[acoustic dune]

also almost to no recoil

and the spread is so fucking small

[visual stream]

Mhm

[acoustic dune]

kinda wish braced recon gun was a thing doh

so i can use the that stam eating skill

[visual stream]

Something like what scab gunners use?

[acoustic dune]

like the braced gun but it doesnt change anything then the aim

and i would be cool bean

[visual stream]

I would personally like if we got scab gunner's gun

[acoustic dune]

aiming down sight is what i hate on recon gun

[acoustic dune]

laser lmg when

[visual stream]

Vet could use an LMG, would be cool

Yeah fr

[acoustic dune]

why does the ogryn get all the fun

its bullshit

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-soup-yum-sleebo-speech-bubble-gif-17955522492713995008

[visual stream]

Because ogryn has -3 effective dodge count on his most agile build

[acoustic dune]

so?

[visual stream]

But yeah there's no overwhelming fire gun on the human classes except mayb bolter

[acoustic dune]

tbh as much as i want toget into ogryn

[visual stream]

Maybe brauto for suppression but yk

[acoustic dune]

i cant never get over how slow his heavy is

other then that

i have no issue

[visual stream]

Ogryn would make a really good Soulsborne boss

[plucky gate]

I don't play ogryn much either. Hopefully i get some fun out of it after the rework

[open echo]

I should just probably just over lmao

guh

[acoustic dune]

the ogryn festival bouta begin

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-speech-bubble-speech-discord-gif-25192162

[open echo]

also how is ironhelm atm?

[visual stream]

Great

It does literally everything you could want a melee to do

Except maybe rager packs but if you play it well you can do that with no or minimal damage anyway

[visual stream]

||Except for be viable in havoc||

[open echo]

oh, thats nice, last i played it was just bad

i was truly a ironhelm coper

so yeah, i assume most of my old zealot builds are viable (hopefully)

[grizzled aspen]

Because ogryn couldn't have fun before.

[violet hornet]

Where's clad to post the slop footage of him special light attacking ragers for 2 minutes before he gets floored by a well broadcasted overhead

[hard nexus]

broadcasted

lmfao

"coming to you live, from the shittiest corners of atoma"

[violet hornet]

(I am kidding I love clad)

[hard nexus]

(i think the word u meant was telegraphed)

[violet hornet]

Yeah that's the one lol

[open echo]

most of them were smth like this

[violet hornet]

Broadcasted actually kinda works here because it's like telegraphing but much harder to go unnoticed lol

[violet hornet]

Looking pretty good

[open echo]

is there anything that i should change or has zealot skills changed much less than i thought

[grizzled aspen]

(broadcasted was funnier though)

[violet hornet]

I think you're good to go, I run this talent tree in anything I'm not planning on critting with: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aae97b9-200f-4c8b-829a-27211f85fc86/bonk-13

[grizzled aspen]

The tknife setup is correct.

[violet hornet]

My crit build looks just like yours

[grizzled aspen]

Except disdain.

Disdain is used on one specific weapon.

[violet hornet]

Oh yeah I missed that, I don't run disdain

[open echo]

what weapon, it might be that lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Mk10 relic blade APPARENTLY gets good value.

[open echo]

oh nvm

[grizzled aspen]

ALLEGEDLY

(I say it this way because I am a mk2 supremacist)

Anyway, yeah, drop disdain for good balance and that's like peak meta setup right there.

Also change to left side piety.

Stalwart is very good now.

[open echo]

these are my old revolvers before the crafting update, which one should i keep? :3

[grizzled aspen]

Lots of tdr and 2% more toughness on melee kill.

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly the only thing that really matters is base stats, and they're both pretty good.

Use left as agri, right as zarona.

Agri takes cara unyielding hand cannon crucian, zarona takes (iirc, don't quote me on this) flak unarmored surgical hand cannon.

Perks on zarona are solely for gunner oneshots.

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab292f0-bf8b-4969-8858-e0aed0817fb0/inex-crusher-laspistol , this is one of my old builds, is this a fine crusher build orrr?

[obsidian prairie]

Crusher takes Slaughterer over hammerblow now

[sullen forge]

Slaughterer Skullcrusher is more effective now since it was added to crusher

There’s also was it SkC Thrust?

Or Slaught Thrust

[obsidian prairie]

40% power is a bit better than a lot of impact yeah

[open echo]

how abt the laspistol, would raking fire be better than infernus?

[sullen forge]

But the Thrust is literally for Thammer Lite edition

[obsidian prairie]

Infernus is still good

Most reliable for boss damage

[sullen forge]

Dumdum is also good

[obsidian prairie]

I would swap the perks to Unyielding Crit chance but that’s me wanting a boss delete button

[open echo]

oh also howcome when i go to upgrade a blessing to a higher tier it says blessing locked?

i have not messed with the crafting update whatsoever

[signal spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[broken walrus]

There is a mastery page where you unlock blessings

[obsidian prairie]

You have to fill the circle on the left before you can access next rank

Get more blessings then you can access next tier

(Assuming you speak of the mastery menu)

[open echo]

i see

i get it now

so what do people take on chaxe?

[signal spoke]

Fatshark always be underwhelmed when explaining things to the players

[obsidian prairie]

Idk

Hate the thing myself

[sullen forge]

Locked to weapon mastery basically the more you Level a weapon up the more you can upgrade it

[signal spoke]

thats kinda a hard one, i never liked the way it is used

[open echo]

(i mean the xii)

[hushed knoll]

Hello carpets

[long oasis]

thrust headtaker

[open echo]

what abt headtaker + slaughterer?

[long oasis]

that's fine as well, but on bosses its harder to keep slaughterer up since you need kills

[sullen forge]

Typically build into Inexorable Judgement with them

Slaughterer Headtaker

[plucky gate]

*any kill
I've tried it with ranged

[open echo]

oki, and did the blessings change for hsword orrrr?

[plucky gate]

also it might just be from any time fury refreshes, so might actually just be any kill nearby from anyone

haven't tested stalwart with teammate kills but i assume that's what it's based on

[obsidian prairie]

Nope, Deathblow headtaker

Hard to beat ignoring mechanics

[sullen forge]

Chained Deathblow and Bladed Momentum look cool but they’re just not worth it

You don’t usually get enough value out of them

Especially Bladed Momentum

[obsidian prairie]

Bladed drops for it’s only usecase and chained means dropping either damage or cleave ignore

[sullen forge]

That could’ve been insane

[open echo]

what abt perks?

[obsidian prairie]

Flakiac or something

[sullen forge]

Flak Maniac

[obsidian prairie]

Bring a bolter for armor and unyielding

[sullen forge]

Mk9 let’s your overhead 1 tap mutants on heads regardless of HT stacks

[obsidian prairie]

Think mk7 does too

[sullen forge]

Or risk relying on FOTF

[open echo]

damn, i spent 60% or more of 1k hours rolling hswords and never got the perfect one, ig the crafting update exists now

[sterile stone]

Nah you gotta mag dump the bolter into a horde for max dopamine

[sullen forge]

You can very easily get a Mobility 60% and 80% everything else now

Very easily

Seeing you can upgrade stats

[obsidian prairie]

Like 100k dockets easy

It’s so nice

[open echo]

so is zarona with surgical and handcannon not amazing for crushers anymore?

[obsidian prairie]

Bolter is just better

[open echo]

i could probably fix this right?

[obsidian prairie]

And it has no role overlap with tknives

Bolter also does boss burst really well

[open echo]

so what do people take on bolter?

[obsidian prairie]

Shattering puncture unyielding carapace

Gives a 4 shot body shot against crushers at all ranges

[open echo]

howcome its not pinning anymore?

[obsidian prairie]

And Scourge value against bosses

[sullen forge]

Roll greys till you see one with the max potential being 60% Mobility

[obsidian prairie]

Not ideal for its primary targets and we have better options

[sullen forge]

Puncture (Bleed) + Shattering (Brittleness) is fucking disgusting

[obsidian prairie]

Shattering enables the aforementioned breakpoint with the brittleness enabling bleed to do anything

[sullen forge]

Brittle Bleed isn’t as strong as Rending but hell does it buff DOT

[open echo]

ill try hunt for one

ig most of my pre-crafting gear is kinda worthless now huh

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah

Luckily it’s easy to replace

[sullen forge]

Well less useless more stepping stones to get your optimized gear quickly

[obsidian prairie]

Especially if you built up a bank before

[sullen forge]

I’d say get your favorites first

And then work on everything else

[open echo]

how is the evisc?

[obsidian prairie]

Btw, if you want to rush mastery, buy greys from brunt then upgrade to green and sacrifice en masse

[sullen forge]

Outshined by Relic Blade

But it’s fun

[open echo]

i kinda want to try relic + bolt pistol

[obsidian prairie]

You can go from 0-20 in like 300k dockets and 2k plasteel

[sullen forge]

Relic Blade is insanely powerful on Zealot

Seeing your now upgrading your stuff I would recommend using it to help grind mats

So you can get everything else leveled

[obsidian prairie]

It’s an all rounder whose only weakness is mobility

And its mobility isn’t even bad

[open echo]

i am so broke from my old hsword rolling, 1k hours in and im poor :(

[misty ravine]

I literally cannot stop using mk10 relic blade + bistol

[obsidian prairie]

Mk10 is light spam

[sullen forge]

Relic Blade Bolter is also

Insanely fucking strong

[obsidian prairie]

Mk2 has combos and a sick ass uppercut that has a crusher oneshot

[sullen forge]

Sprint Hold M1 on powered to delete crushers

[open echo]

holy fuck i forgot about my shovel collection

i was not ok

[obsidian prairie]

Oh and btw you can swap weapon marks freely

[open echo]

hsword doesn't have mobil :(

[sullen forge]

Defenses

[obsidian prairie]

Defenses

[sullen forge]

It’s defenses

[obsidian prairie]

Collateral for guns that have it

[sullen forge]

I tend to call the two mobility even though they have small differences

[open echo]

i would use the bolter if the zarona wasn't my favourite weapon in any game tbh

i kinda want to try ironhelm + flamer, would that be a good idea?

[misty ravine]

Might as well use Crucis if you are bringing a flamer

[open echo]

true

is the agri bruato still a great pick?

[misty ravine]

Not really

[open echo]

howcome? :(

[obsidian prairie]

Generally outshined by flamer but works

[misty ravine]

Chastise doesn't increase armor pen anymore, and various changes over the last couple years have put more emphasis on stacking finesse bonuses and getting headshots

[open echo]

so what are our current good ranged options?

[violet hornet]

Removal of chastise effecting ranged weapons removed a lot of its usefulness, along with the infantry auto gun and bolter getting buffed + bolt pistol added

[obsidian prairie]

Scab ragers have a carapace chestplate though

Heavily limits its effectiveness against mixed horde

[misty ravine]

Infantry Autogun or Recon Lasgun mostly work better if you want a full auto assault rifle type of ranged weapon. Maybe Autopistol after the 25th (definitely not right now)

[violet hornet]

I legit only use bolter and flamer but I do see people running iag and zarona revolver sometimes

[open echo]

zealot has recon?

woh

[misty ravine]

Since Unlocked and Loaded, yes.
(Zealot also has Dueling Sword but we don't talk about that)

[violet hornet]

Hard to really make the other ranged options shine without any talent support and bolter / flamer are the extreme specialist options for handling stuff your melee weapon cannot do

[open echo]

wondeer how the normal chainsword is

[fringe bay]

Pretend it doesn’t

[violet hornet]

Some people run dbarrel but that generally works better on vet and psyker from what I have seen

[open echo]

i remember when zarona was the ranged pick

[long oasis]

zealot has basically no options to buff dbarrel

[obsidian prairie]

In general? Both revolvers, bistol, laspistol, bolter, brauto, dbarrel, IAG

[misty ravine]

Great horde clear and crit machine, needs rev attacks and the associated risk to deal with carapace

[long oasis]

as much as vet or psyker does

[obsidian prairie]

My connection is not having it today

[open echo]

and how flamerb?

[obsidian prairie]

Forgor flamer

[obsidian prairie]

Mk13g has the fastest trash clear times in the game

[open echo]

i think this was my cleanest thing from before crafting, is this a goob laspistol?

[open echo]

how are its combos like?

[misty ravine]

Pretty good. Laspistol wants to dump Stability IIRC but don't bother to spend resources replacing this while there are other weapons to get

Raking Fire can be replaced by Ghost or Infernus depending on what you want out of it

[obsidian prairie]

What combos, we got light spam versus every target

[open echo]

what kinda perks/blessings does it take?

[obsidian prairie]

Wrath shred flak maniac

It is entirely a one trick though

Bring a bolter for armor

[open echo]

Apart from bolter, what ranged/meele deals with armour well?

(ill stick with the silly zarona until i get a nice bolter)

[violet hornet]

Zarona, bolt pistol and a flamer with pen flames can do it

[obsidian prairie]

Bistol kind of does but is slow

Agrivolver can but relies on crits and has a small mag

[open echo]

oh yey, i can finally trade reload speed, what should i swap it for? :3

[obsidian prairie]

Zarona is actually slower than Agri at armor btw

[open echo]

oh really lol

damn

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah it’s kind of hard to beat 5 shots in a second

And it has a 200% unyielding ADM because fuck you

[misty nova]

Bro's really going for the shroudfield tech

[open echo]

i feel i lost some stuff since the crafting update

[misty nova]

Hold on

That might be cinema

[obsidian prairie]

What

[slate notch]

Is it worth going precog+uncanny over precog+riposte on dsword?

[open echo]

ik i had a shock maul and a bolt pistol on zealot, i also had a few more chaxes, and im definitely missing my agri revolver

[obsidian prairie]

Agrivolver shroudfield?

[misty nova]

Idk shroud+hand Cannon

Go go gadget rending

[obsidian prairie]

It can kill 4 reapers in one activation

[open echo]

i assunme its smth hand cannon + crucian

[misty nova]

You just need to McCree that shit

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

Cara unyielding if you want to use it for armor and bosses

(You should probably take tknives if you do this)

[open echo]

howcome?

[obsidian prairie]

It’ll miss all its breakpoints

Against specials*

[tepid forge]

Whar

[open echo]

ah, that reminds me, are rashad breakpoints still stupidly tight?

[obsidian prairie]

You can get 80% in all damage stats trivially so no

[open echo]

oh ye right

[obsidian prairie]

You can literally start a character and have a godrolled Rashad on your first mission

[tepid forge]

I can't wait to fight genestealers in the sister hive :3

[open echo]

guh

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/john-roblox-laugh-burst-out-laughing-lol-laughing-gif-1680957198344187785

Only in our dreams maybe

[obsidian prairie]

All human characters can have Rashad unlocked at level 1, and mastery is account wide

[open echo]

ahhh

[obsidian prairie]

Drop a bit of money and crafting bits to upgrade your starter weapon and boom

[signal spoke]

Imagine if you were to master all weapons everytime for new class character

[obsidian prairie]

Sleep straight through leveling

[signal spoke]

[open echo]

how is the agri shotgun, or just shotgun on zealot in general?

[signal spoke]

I almost never see any zealot using shotguns

[obsidian prairie]

Combat shotguns aren’t good on vet

[open echo]

i made agri shotgun work :3

was very silly

or ig they are worse now

[obsidian prairie]

You can make them work I am most definitely a Lawbringer enthusiast

But I will not say they are good

[obsidian prairie]

They are exactly the same, and that’s the problem

[open echo]

powercreep?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204540553971372072/1337110896920756296/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652-1.gif

[obsidian prairie]

Always

[tepid forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165487534923579413/1347299012046360586/IMG_1886.gif

Noooo

[open echo]

time to redo builds now :3

[obsidian prairie]

For sniping? Just take a low mag pistol. For clear? Double barrel

[open echo]

so whats skills for the crusher lol

[open echo]

double barrel seems fun

[obsidian prairie]

I hope they do a pass on the old weapons soonish

[tepid forge]

Definitely is

You feel like doomguy

You just gotta make sure to use your ammo wisely

[open echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab290e6-87a2-42c4-99bd-8f108fc384d7/hsword does this work orrr (old build but yeh) what should i swap around?

[misty ravine]

Double Barrel is a lot better at being a Video Game Shotgun than the Combat Shotguns.

Combat Shotguns are pretty good renditions of realistic shotguns, which is why they suck in a video game where you have to kill fiddy men in each room

[obsidian prairie]

I’d drop something to take duelist but yeah this holds up if you want to use immo’s

[tepid forge]

I will hear a gunner nearby

And then just, destroy him with both shells

[open echo]

what would you swap? :3

[obsidian prairie]

I’d drop immo’s entirely cause they’re expensive

But probably TWBS

Gunners don’t do nearly as much stun anymore

So you only really need it on slow stuff that uses heavies for clear

[open echo]

alr :3

i think every zealot build i have still uses twbs

[obsidian prairie]

That’s fine

It’s really good

Just not totally mandatory

[open echo]

hm, ig i could drop immos

but they nice when playing with silly people

[obsidian prairie]

It’s really up to you

I’m addicted to tknives

[signal spoke]

Seeing you both chatting while your pfp have trans flags is so funny to me

[open echo]

:3

[obsidian prairie]

Alright, can’t drag my lunch out anymore

Bye

[open echo]

byee

[carmine falcon]

running a mission with 4 friends

we all got dced at once

love fatshark servers

[violet hornet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d80d899-dba2-4cad-af4f-fe11b5e9eacd/hsword-7-bolter

[open echo]

i don't have a good bolter yet :(

[signal spoke]

Time for you to buy a grey one and use it on auric damn

[open echo]

just a few questions so i can learn, howcome good balance, and is restoring faith actually any good?

[atomic fjord]

I have a tyranid in my room

[signal spoke]

Grab the creature

[atomic fjord]

The vile being

[open echo]

Also which hsword should i use for now?

[spare talon]

commit to the 4th one and replace rampage with deathblow

[violet hornet]

3 is probably the best right now but if you can do what Cole suggested 4 is perfect

Also ew, mk 6

[open echo]

is mk6 not goob anymore?

[violet hornet]

I'm sure it's fine it's just brain rot tribalism for whatever mark I currently use

Most people prefer mk 9, I use 7, 6 is viable but I think the horizontal sweep is on h2 which makes accessing hordeclear a little slower than the 7

[open echo]

(i also really enjoy how mk7 feels)

[violet hornet]

Same issue the 9 has but the 9s is perfectly horizontal so it gets more love

Cica has some 9 builds if you want more options / variety, he also runs piety crit on it sometimes

[misty nova]

" Stand together, DC together " 🗣️

[open echo]

i assume the mk7 combo is l1-l2-h1 and repeat right?

i forgor it

wait no

oh ye its l1-h1

[violet hornet]

On mk7 I typically loop h1 l2 for hordes, loop h1 special for flak / mixed horde, and loop special h2 for single hard targets

[copper hawk]

hewwo

[violet hornet]

What up goober

[copper hawk]

3, because deathblow

[copper hawk]

i just finished my run

[open echo]

i feel the attacks might have changed since h1 is a strikedown

[copper hawk]

wby

i use the 9 personally

[open echo]

i feel a lot of bps have changed since i last played :(

[copper hawk]

it's the best all rounder

with the best horde clear

in my gloopish opinion

[violet hornet]

H1 on mk6 or mk9 is a strike down, h1 on mk7 is a mostly horizontal diagonal sweep from lower right to upper left

[long oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246140539039252481/1337259957535375381/IMG_1886.gif

what does gloopish mean

[violet hornet]

Mk6 h1 is mk7 h2 and mk7 h2 is mk7 h1 iirc

Yeah the bees do pee a little different now

[misty nova]

(also a Strikedown)

[open echo]

OH WAIT

i got 6 and 7 mixed up

[violet hornet]

Strike... Up?

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d34db3c-4ba5-4ce4-9df1-956e154251eb/thing-that-works-for-some-gloopin-reason

[open echo]

yeah, this exact hsword would hit rager onehits with only 2 headtaker stacks, now it doesn't, sad

[misty nova]

🔥

[open echo]

silly

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d422661-125b-4083-9509-4f8394bb140d/pub-carrier

my silly shitpost build

[open echo]

you seem like goober

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab29bd5-7ae0-406c-a972-0d33f22cb260/crit-dclaw, another old build, but how should i change it? :3

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSolyVfJJpN5dUCPf?invite=cr-MSxoM2UsMjA0MjU2ODk0

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTbdN7XMMkVTjhFt5?invite=cr-MSxKb0ssMjA0MjU2ODk0

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNMhZOlTOl_61rw?invite=cr-MSw0eW8sMjA0MjU2ODk0
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNWvy9yuiMAmzQ_?invite=cr-MSxzMVgsMjA0MjU2ODk0

[copper hawk]

i guess

all i can say is drop disdain and get good balance

something like this with crit claw

if you just wanted one piety node, swap the right node with the left one

you're going to be killing shit u dont need crits to count up. that node is basically a point tax to get to more crit chance

you also dont need more critchance, u have shred

it's more than redundant

[open echo]

okiii

[copper hawk]

guaranteed crit from chastise + shred while in a horde = you have shit tons of crit

[violet hornet]

Grub carrier

[open echo]

i should try out mk9, is it just the same everything?

[copper hawk]

if u run right side piety i'd run this i guess

u have 30% crit when ur running piety right side

shred feels al il redundant

but all the other blessings for dclaw are ass

so i argue that sav sweep is an alright swap for cleaving armor

it also means more scourge procs, meaning more crits

[copper hawk]

it has looping h2 and h3

[open echo]

oop, mean in terms of blessings etc

[copper hawk]

and a h1 strikedown that does the same damage as the heavies on the other heavy swords

oh yah

flakiac

[violet hornet]

Builds the same yep, but you'll need different combos for single target and horde clear

[copper hawk]

flarmored

dblow and hter

dump defences

single target is h1 + special attack loop

horde is just h2 h3

[open echo]

ig this is the most useable one i have atm

[copper hawk]

yerp

deathblow is the make or break blessing for heby swod

[open echo]

ill stick with zarona for now, but a little curious, what blessings/perks for flamer

[copper hawk]

overpressure blaze away

flak unyielding

dump damage

[open echo]

this fine until i can roll a new one? :3

[copper hawk]

yeo

yep

only stat that matters is burn

that's hwo flamer does damage

it needs to be greater than or equal to 76 for full fire stacks

[violet hornet]

I wouldn't take a flamer with an hsword unless all three of your teammates have only anti armor and zero horde clear

[plush estuary]

noob

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[broken walrus]

Real Zealots bonk Crushers to death with the back of their HSwords

[stone fern]

an hsword
an ATCH sword
not a heavy sword

[violet hornet]

Bringing flamer for the bash attack

[stone fern]

this dude doesnt read abbreviations in his head

[violet hornet]

Aytchsord

[stone fern]

deeclaw

thammer

😭 it never ends

[misty ravine]

And my personal favorite, 🅱️istol :DDDD

[violet hornet]

ẞistol

[acoustic dune]

🇧 istol

BEST istol

[stone fern]

so tru so tru

i cant believe people were riding it on release

[stone fern]

it was so FUCKING mid and people still played it

[acoustic dune]

i mean its a smol boltgun

whats not to like?

[stone fern]

it was shit

couldnt kill anything

[misty ravine]

It might be one of our last chances to play a video game with a classic bolt pistol and not the pr*maris one

[stone fern]

you legit had to play it on malice to meet any breakpoints

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/distressed-red-ball-uncanny-cat-cat-black-and-white-gif-8838887825807615400

[stone fern]

release boltpistol was unplayable

[acoustic dune]

kinda wish it didnt take a full clip to kill a bulkward

[stone fern]

🚬 tell me about it

[misty ravine]

tbh even now you gotta fudge the breakpoints with Puncture and still boost it with Run & Gun or Anoint or some shit

[stone fern]

actually no dont get me started on bulwarks

[acoustic dune]

atleast aiming make it shoot faster

[misty nova]

Clad hates bulwarks regardless of the topic

[stone fern]

yeah but its way WAY better than release

[grand tangle]

it also has the funny pistol punch shot animation

very funni

[sterile stone]

Clad refused to use kraks

[acoustic dune]

bulwarks are the reason i run recon lasy

[stone fern]

i refuse to play vet

[opaque island]

I just want to RP a commisar why the bulwarks gotta bully me and my 🇧 istol

[violet hornet]

It wants to be grenade gauntlet so bad

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-gif-21110512

[acoustic dune]

proximity blessing is the fucking best

[sterile basalt]

No?

[acoustic dune]

punch with bistol

explode

[sterile basalt]

Its issue was abysmal sway & inaccuracy

[grand tangle]

proximity+run'n'gun for maximum utility and fun

[stone fern]

it was also weak

[opaque island]

yea but who doesnt wanna put a bolt pistol to a heretics head and pull the trigger, in the emperors name of course...

[stone fern]

it did zero infested damage and i think unarmored?

[acoustic dune]

i run proximity with the 100% crit on weakspot

[sterile basalt]

No

[grand tangle]

try run'n'gun instead, you can run down heretics while suppressing all of them at once

[sterile basalt]

I don’t remember it getting damage changed

[acoustic dune]

thing is dont pull it out too often

[sterile basalt]

Only cleave and sway

[stone fern]

u remember wrong

[sterile basalt]

And hitscan size

[stone fern]

they tweaked the damage too

[grand tangle]

this opens up new options in combat. trust me, its like always having fotf off cd, you have another option to safely close gaps with ranged enemies

[sterile stone]

Load up the game, squad up with Veteran steam guide WIP to prove a point

[acoustic dune]

i just use the 🅱️istol like a fatter revolver

except the explosion pleases me

[stone fern]

can PATH get me a functioning time machine?

i dont think we can start the game and see release boltpistol

and im too lazy to find the patch notes

[sterile stone]

Call up the devs

Tell them to roll back

Ez

[sterile basalt]

Only carapace and infested

[acoustic dune]

mmh ill take it into consideration

[sterile basalt]

Major breakpoints never got changed

[acoustic dune]

PREASE GIVE US BACK 24 STACK BLEED

[sterile stone]

Isn't is possible to get high bleed on shredder nades?

[sterile basalt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/unlocked-and-loaded-patch-notes-pt-2-out-now/98947

Specific change

[acoustic dune]

dont play vet enough to know

[sterile stone]

@sterile basalt

Veteran steam guide WIP

[copper hawk]

Star wars dress up time

[sterile stone]

We need your input

[sterile basalt]

Reduced sway
Increased carapace & infested ADM
Increased hitscan size
Increased cleave from 0.001 to 1.5

[violet hornet]

Holy Rev healing me to full hp after I thammer down the DH

[broken walrus]

Ive been using the Hellbore with Armorbane to increase bleed on crushes. Thats about it

[sterile basalt]

What

[stone fern]

you were saying

[acoustic dune]

thunder clapping the DH is the best part of the thammer

[sterile stone]

Shredder nade bleed cap number

[sterile basalt]

U were saying it had to be malice to hit breakpoints

[stone fern]

31

[sterile basalt]

That part is wildly exaggerated

[acoustic dune]

except i miss my shroudfield thammer special and fucking died

[sterile basalt]

Same as all bleed

[violet hornet]

I got four in one match the other day, had to end my session early on the high note

[acoustic dune]

somehow i miss a overhead

[sterile stone]

I don't know what that means

[stone fern]

nuh uhh

[sterile stone]

I'm not a spreadsheet pleb

[sterile basalt]

16

[sterile basalt]

Bleed max is 16

Burn max is 31 (only achievable with current PBB light em up)

Soulblaze max is 31

Electrocution idk, it’s coded weirdly

[sterile stone]

@stone fern It's time you go to the pillaries for spreading misinfo

[stone fern]

no

i disagree

[sterile basalt]

It’s not the first time for him anyway

[sterile basalt]

Btw I might be getting a second hand pc rig

Soon

[acoustic dune]

god i miss old bleed

[stone fern]

hell yeah

[acoustic dune]

i wanna play with the funny bleed knife

[sterile basalt]

4070ti super
i7-14700f
48gb ram
2tb ssd

[acoustic dune]

with dump damage

[opaque island]

thats second hand?!

[stone fern]

damn nice

[stone fern]

he stole it

[sterile stone]

Bro is starting his streamer arc

[sterile basalt]

The benefits of knowing a friend who works as a professional physician

[sterile stone]

Tl;Dr dude’s friend stole a pc from some guy

After taking their kidney

[sterile basalt]

Nah he got a 4090 + 14900k pc rig so he retired his old one (the one I’m getting from him)

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[misty nova]

Unnecessary but go on

I mean
Uncanny Strike is right there

[acoustic dune]

they should make the hellbore take both melee and range slot

it would be funny

[broken walrus]

Sometimes I dont want to stab things with knife or Dsword

I want to bayonet them

[acoustic dune]

imagine a special is just a bayonette charge

[broken walrus]

You can Bayonet charge. Just hold special while sprinting

Its slightly faster than sprinting

[misty nova]

But what if I don't have Uncanny?
Good question
You can always spec helby into 1-2 shot crushers

[sterile stone]

Oh so he got money

[sterile basalt]

The power of being a professional physician

[sterile stone]

Next time you talk to bro, ask him if he want a melinated brother

I'm always willing to join families with wealth

[sterile basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[sterile stone]

Another lost soul hating on a young upstarts grind

You hate to see it

[acoustic dune]

https://x.com/gregthesorcerer/status/1899147436368462294

Greg the Sorcerer (@gregthesorcerer) on X

The giant spiders in the enchanted forest are free you can just take them

X · Mar 10, 2025, 5:16 PM

is this a australia thing or?

[misty nova]

I don't like it

It's like a nightmare fuel dog

[zinc talon]

I would absolutely have a spiderbro

jumping spiders are adorable

some of the most intelligent things on the planet as it happens as well

some species even have behaviors that could be definded as culture

[sterile stone]

You can keep the house

I ain't want it anyways

[acoustic dune]

but iz fluffy

cuddle the spider

[sterile stone]

So are bears

[acoustic dune]

iz also keep house clean

[zinc talon]

oh well

[acoustic dune]

adn you woudldnt know when youll get hurt

[zinc talon]

in texas we have tarantulas endemic to the area

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-spider-spider-cute-cute-spider-cute-jumping-spider-gif-214315341684838167

[sterile stone]

My mental state would be hurt knowing that thing would be moving around at night

[zinc talon]

kept em as pets a time or two as a kid

I daresay they even get affectionate

[acoustic dune]

tbh i would fear a smol spider then a big spider

[sterile stone]

We also had brown recluses wandering around for like a year or two

[zinc talon]

once they know it's you with the food they behave like cats and dogs do

[sterile stone]

That was fun

[acoustic dune]

then again worms scare me

[misty nova]

That shit would climb walls
Like an extra annoying cat

[zinc talon]

yeah web spinning spiders are usually really foul tempered

tarantuals are wandering hunting spiders

can see them crossing the roads out where my parents live from farmland to farmland

[sterile stone]

Nah I'm not gambling on anything that has 8 eyes

[zinc talon]

heh

valid

[sterile stone]

REcluses already can cause necrosis if they bite you

[acoustic dune]

ok so

what about

https://x.com/ootani_eiti/status/1899032237641019835

モスのいる日常・2巻/LIFE with MOTH (@ootani_eiti) on X

帰宅に抵抗するモス

X · Mar 10, 2025, 9:39 AM

this

[sterile stone]

Moths?

[zinc talon]

tarantulas have an extra set of fiddlygigs directly over their biting fangs

[acoustic dune]

https://x.com/ootani_eiti/status/1897215587014861127

モスのいる日常・2巻/LIFE with MOTH (@ootani_eiti) on X

金網からはみ出るモス

X · Mar 5, 2025, 9:20 AM

moth

[zinc talon]

so they literally can't bite unless they raise those legs up in a strike pose

[sterile stone]

Moths are fluffy and all

[zinc talon]

it was a very easy litmus test for how the spider was feeling

so that helped tons

[sterile stone]

But the only fluffy creature I'm willing to put my hands near are guinea pigs and dogs

[zinc talon]

guinea pigs are vicious little cusses if they want to be

[acoustic dune]

what about cats

[zinc talon]

and those teeth will separate

[acoustic dune]

also horses

[sterile stone]

They're just loud, that's my main gripe with them

[zinc talon]

you. not from each other. well they do when they bite idk

[sterile stone]

I've never been a cat person

[zinc talon]

my buddy growing up had a chinchilla

that thing would tell you how it felt by projectile pissing

little blips of urine at you

[lean cairn]

low levels are comedic relief

[acoustic dune]

i am the kind of lad whom would pat anything cute

[zinc talon]

me too

and a couple things that aren't

[acoustic dune]

crocodiles

[zinc talon]

crocodiles love being scractched

they have nerve endings in those scales

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-crab-knife-mg-excelsus-gif-26926901

[zinc talon]

and live in a swamp

[sterile stone]

And that dear readers is how Toby lost his left hand trying to pet a bear

[zinc talon]

when that croc dings ands realizes it's getting scratched underneath those scales for the first time in its life

[lean cairn]

ainz do you use zipit

[zinc talon]

and that only you are the one to give the scritches

[acoustic dune]

you mean right hand

[zinc talon]

they get downright protective of you

[acoustic dune]

i am too left handed to have my left hand gone

[zinc talon]

you are theirs

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-better-now-professor-membrane-enter-the-florpus-invader-zim-zim-gif-16452825

[lean cairn]

just realised you have no stam bar wtf

[zinc talon]

oh god I misread that

I thought your left hand was gone

[acoustic dune]

god no

not yet anyway

[zinc talon]

I was originally left handed as a child and my mom hit me with a wooden spoon when I'd use it

I am right handed now

[acoustic dune]

can you write both handed?

[zinc talon]

'the world isn't made for left handed people'

[acoustic dune]

or no

[zinc talon]

naw at least I've never tried

so prolly not

[acoustic dune]

with a week of pratice

you could prob

[copper hawk]

I may have cooked w my outfit

On jedi survivor

Anygloop wanna zee..

[acoustic dune]

show it anywau

[sterile stone]

Remove the arms to make way for cybernetics

Become a machine

[lean cairn]

dropping like flies

i did better on this map in duos xd

[acoustic dune]

i am just waiting for neuro link being a thing at this point

[sterile stone]

I mean it kinda is

I think it's mostly for people with spinal paralysis

[acoustic dune]

with more development

[sterile stone]

Fair enough

[acoustic dune]

i wanna connect my mind to a toaster or smth

and shoot toast

that or help with my working process

[visual stream]

Where do I find this found footage

I can't wait to see

[sterile stone]

Bro is gonna piss off the wrong person and get his brain zip bombed

[acoustic dune]

i do wonder how it will do in the sector in art

[acoustic dune]

ghost in a shell moment

[visual stream]

Surely after the next 200 monkeys' brains explode it'll be ready for human use

[heady rapids]

@sullen forge are you still following tbs.................

[acoustic dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyEMcWH82aI

i was thinking of this scene tbh

[lean cairn]

piety or ij?

best

[acoustic dune]

piety is always great

backstab cooldown is also good

[visual stream]

Depends on weapon

[lean cairn]

@plush estuary im excited for ogryn wepspec

[lean cairn]

was talking to someone sorry

[visual stream]

Thammer always wants IJ or Martyrdom but never ever never Piety

Oh oops you're good

[lean cairn]

gonna join

[sullen forge]

Kinda why

Haven’t been caught up on it though

[heady rapids]

honestly i forgot why i asked lol

waiting for 2.0 to drop, glad to see that the dev wasnt discouraged from continuing his work

[frosty herald]

2.0?

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-johnny-silverhand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-shades-off-gif-26950453

[zinc talon]

grabbers

gimmes

[maiden forge]

Dog

[zinc talon]

close

[maiden forge]

Nah it’s what darksoul players say when they know it’s a dog

[zinc talon]

I was yesterday years old when I found out the 80% gas resistant armor paired with the vitality booster give you 100% damage resist

I am now a Death Knight Guard

I drop gas strikes on my head and wade into melee combat

and everything around me dies

and I am invincible

[maiden forge]

Death guard you mean?

[proud raft]

Say that again…

[zinc talon]

n-n-no...

[maiden forge]

Speaking of invincible my entire timeline has just been invincible

Invincible YouTube

It’s just him as several other media’s and characters

https://x.com/LovelyBlackish/status/1898749550883639399

Apollo |Comms 3/5| (@LovelyBlackish) on X

Invincible Guiliman

X · Mar 9, 2025, 2:55 PM

Shit like this

Very odd to see lord general of the imperium in this particular art style

Must be a fanboy from maccrage

[acoustic dune]

owow you aint lying when you said that gas doesnt hurt

[maiden forge]

Mnnn need more gas stratagems

[acoustic dune]

gas mines and gassy rover

[maiden forge]

Need a 380 mm he barrage but instead it’s gas

[violet hornet]

Napalm barrage? Nah, fart barrage

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-meme-gassy-incredibles-mr-incredible-meme-gif-16951082123294203219

[zinc talon]

the only thing that can hurt you at all is direct fire from the sterilizer

[acoustic dune]

gassy aircraft strategem when

[zinc talon]

so now for like raise flag missions

[maiden forge]

Need more chemical weapons for my war crime game patriot simulator

[zinc talon]

I stand out in front and constantly gas strike /gas mine/gas grenade myself

where everything can see me

and I engage in melee combat while they choke to death

cuz the spear will stun everything up to chargers and hulks

dead in its tracks

[maiden forge]

Good to know about the 100% damage resistance will do on a defence mission against the terminids at the front gate

[zinc talon]

my inner nerd is just screaming about that imaginary scene

'ah shit here they come there's a ton of em'

call in gas strike on self

gas impacts

'good. let them come'

https://tenor.com/view/ea-eeee-gif-23557277

[maiden forge]

Choom needs to take a shower it’s killing the locals when they get close

[zinc talon]

peeling the paint off the pelican on the way back

also the fire resist armor

paired with the double edged scythe

the new one that burns you instead of overheating

you only take damage in that armor if you max the heat and set yourself on fire

and it stops the instant it's no longer max heat

no need to dive to put out the fire

and. for the last 10% of the weapon's heat gauge the rounds become heavy armor penetrating

or medium. maybe medium

these resist armors went from zero use and zero usage to holy shit look at what I can do brand new roles and loadouts

you love to see it. helldivers is in such a good place right now

[misty nova]

Same

[maiden forge]

Fancy

[violet hornet]

Definitely gonna try the "pull my finger" diver next time I'm on, I've been using gas strike for a while anyways

[zinc talon]

I've used gas grenades exclusively since they debuted

by far the most useful defensive weapon I've ever found

cuz they blind and stun everything

so suddenly every bottleneck is an instant impromptu kill box

[violet hornet]

I love the thermite grenades but don't love how often they fail to stick to a target

[zinc talon]

and if you get surrounded just drop one at your feat and leap away immediately

you take no damage and everything in your face is suddenly stunlocked

[acoustic dune]

adding smoke would be a great idea aswell no?

[zinc talon]

I think. will test now in next mission. but I think they already act as smoke cover

that video I shared shows things shooting at me beyond the range of the gas and not hitting me

at the beginning when I jump into that ditch and nade myself

if it acts as smoke cover gas just became the best thing ever

[maiden forge]

A very stupid trend it is

Funny tho

[maiden forge]

Counter point tho impact grenades in point blank

[acoustic dune]

Counter point

Pocket precision shot

[maiden forge]

Haven’t played in 3 months clarify

[violet hornet]

Counter point:

[acoustic dune]

Counter point

[violet hornet]

Darktide discord with the sloppy croppy

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/reaccion-termita-gif-18683557

Also I like smoke grenade

[fleet zealot]

racism is dead

[acoustic dune]

Bring racism back 😠

[fleet zealot]

😲

[acoustic dune]

):<

[sterile stone]

The perfect vet grenade

[heady rapids]

every group had that one guy that told everyone it's a skill issue when the hansle's hitbox literally jumps off

[copper hawk]

some stuff i made

or put together rather ,, i love mods !!

[tame sluice]

https://gyazo.com/b3dcfec5e90ce03eacd87182efe8fcff.mp4

[frosty herald]

Use the vented lightsaber

And the middle part haircut

[maiden forge]

Is that the Jedi survivor of fallen order whaaaaaat

[frosty herald]

Jedi survivor

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[copper hawk]

which 1 is that ??

i dont have that haircut yet

[frosty herald]

Crossguard stance

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-fist-warhammer-gif-27420223

[frosty herald]

You get it when you go to the shattered moon

[copper hawk]

Ohg

I think it looks dorky

I have the stance

[zinc talon]

oh my god hahahah

[copper hawk]

I wish the crossguard was realistic, otherwise I'd use it

[sullen forge]

Loner Zealotvincible

[frosty herald]

Lonervincible

[sullen forge]

He dies immediately

[hard nexus]

that’s awesome

you’d love dark souls

just for the dress up

[grizzled aspen]

The best drip for ds3 is lorians crown, nameless king chest, ringed knight gauntlets, and iron dragonslayer legs.

Not exactly sure for ds1 or ds2, didn't experiment much with the armors in those games.

[maiden forge]

I think the ideal set is just orienstiens helmet

[grizzled aspen]

Ds1 is a race to get the elite knight set or you pull stone armor out of your ass to fight the four kings.

Ds2 is "I'm gonna kill this merchant and then wear his clothes for the whole game."

[maiden forge]

More souls is more souls

[grizzled aspen]

Ornstein does have very nice armor, that's why the legs from his set are what I use in my peak drip in ds3.

[maiden forge]

Haven’t played ds3 that much recently so I might need to play again to see how good the drip works

[grizzled aspen]

With the nameless king chest, you have a brass torso that leads into iron gauntlets and an iron skirt. (ringed knight gauntlets and iron dragonslayer legs)

And then you've got the wrappings up around your face and a bitching crown to top it off.

It's so peak.

[north sedge]

https://youtu.be/OiKSJe11GQk?si=qA2jGeECa68sHoOG

[maiden forge]

Me personally I prefer the sleepy ranni set in Elden ring (it’s just ranni hat with prisoner shirt)

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna be real, I did not like elden ring.

So much filler between good bosses.

[maiden forge]

Damn

[hexed igloo]

My ds3 drip is a mix of the outrider, dancer, and artorias set

[grizzled aspen]

Like yay I get to fight a recycled boss again.

Whoop-de-fuckin-doo.

[maiden forge]

Fair opinion to have

However this is the internet

I do not respect it

[grizzled aspen]

Frankly, souls games do not need to be that level of open world.

[hexed igloo]

Heh, enjoy your downvote lil bro

[north sedge]

Yea it's ok to be wrong

[lean cairn]

@plush estuary lmk how it goes with my guy

[grizzled aspen]

They are constructed to be challenging and have fun, engaging boss fights.

[maiden forge]

Also fair enough

[hexed igloo]

Main thing I don't like about ER is that it's open world

[maiden forge]

However counter point

Beautiful tree

[grizzled aspen]

I do not want to fight that fucking abyss spawn thing again for the third time in a row.

[lean cairn]

im gonna be the guy who escapes

[north sedge]

The point of er was exploration

[hexed igloo]

Counter point, Fort, night

[maiden forge]

Just dont play nightreign

[grizzled aspen]

Cool, still didn't like it.

[north sedge]

Hey i said it's ok to be wrong

[grizzled aspen]

Nightreign looks promising if it's significantly less open world.

[hexed igloo]

Oh gee I can't wait to find a fucking cookbook at the end of this 14 minute tangent

[maiden forge]

Yeah but also seems a little bit of a cash crab tbh

[lean cairn]

saldar is the wimp guy damn

[maiden forge]

Re used enemies simply cuz “it’s fun”

Lazy but fair

[grizzled aspen]

A cookbook for an item you will never use because it doesn't work with your build or the items are annoying to get.

[hexed igloo]

This guy gets it

[north sedge]

I also don't think the point of souls games is the bosses, they're a feature but not the main point

[hexed igloo]

No they're like the main point

[maiden forge]

Scuse me scarlet rot arrows are funny

[grizzled aspen]

Why yes, I do want to quit out and reload 500 times to get a suitable amount of materials to use this item consistently.

[maiden forge]

Give your enemies cancer

[grizzled aspen]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

[visual stream]

Me exploring three dungeons in a row whose gimmick (gargoyle enemies placed in annoying places) and boss (cat statue that slams a sword in one movement) are the same

[grizzled aspen]

THERES LIKE FOUR BUTTERFLIES THAT SPAWN IN ONE SPOT

[lean cairn]

gonna go now cya

you too

[grizzled aspen]

AND YOU HAVE TO QUIT OUT AND RELOAD OVER AND OVER TO FARM THEM

BAD GAME DESIGN

[light badge]

This could've been solved by making an npc obsessed with scarlet rot sell you the items in exchange for the cookbook

[hexed igloo]

You forgot the only actually useful items having cancerous crafts

[grizzled aspen]

Nope, mentioned the "materials are annoying to get" part.

Like uhhhh

Big fire pots.

[hexed igloo]

Some of em ain't even annoying just fucking suck

[grizzled aspen]

Not volcano pots.

Just the big fuckers.

[heady rapids]

items are a crutch tho!!!!!

[maiden forge]

I disagree

Cancer arrows is funny

[grizzled aspen]

(he's doing the "average souls supremacist" bit)

[maiden forge]

It’s funny therefor immune to all criticism

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-drinks-scared-what-breaking-bad-gif-11985535492795578259

[grizzled aspen]

(average souls supremacists believe summons and using items is "cheating")

[heady rapids]

list of crutches in er includes but not limited to
dex builds
str builds
casting builds
summoning
doing npc quests with a wiki
using dot builds
using items

[sullen forge]

@frosty herald You’re not even good enough to be snared - Scab Trappervincible

[maiden forge]

Playing the game is a crutch 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪

[grizzled aspen]

Quality build not included, L to all of you.

I am a quality build man.

[maiden forge]

You put points in vitality damn ur carried

[grizzled aspen]

Just the right blend of str, dex, int, and faith to get the maximum amount of damage without compromising my other stats.

[visual stream]

The only crutch I can remember actually agreeing with was that stupid katana that killed you in three light attacks on release in PvP

[sullen forge]

If you build at all it’s a crutch and you’re bad 🚬

[maiden forge]

What you should do is a resistance build only in dark souls 1

[visual stream]

Agreed

[heady rapids]

my friend who is not a first time souls player put about ~30 into int in his str build so he could cast illumination

[grizzled aspen]

Rivers of blood, and that wasnt the swords fault, that was Miyazaki being like "ooga booga we will overtune bleed again for a fourth time in the souls series."

[open echo]

what should i do with the otyher two points? :3

[zinc talon]

5% move speed

always

[visual stream]

True enough

[grizzled aspen]

The only reason I would ever bother touching er again is to do pvp.

[heady rapids]

pvp dlc was pure cancer and I was all for it

[grizzled aspen]

But crushing gank squads in ds3 as a loyal Watchdog of Farron is way more fun.

[maiden forge]

Haven’t done the dlc yet I should at some point

[heady rapids]

fgs true combo, perfumes, sleep crossbows, that one weapon art

[frosty herald]

I WOULDNT EVEN SHOOT THAT DOG OFF OF YOU

[heady rapids]

thorn spell thing

[grizzled aspen]

Oh, what's that? You're gonna hit me with vestige? It would be a shame if I had a fume ultra greatsword and know how to use stomp properly.

[maiden forge]

I’m a moundmaker 💪 💪 💪

Sometimes ally sometimes invader

All times I hit the host anyways

[heady rapids]

the only thing I didn't abuse was deathblight

[sterile stone]

When they adding the megaman set

I'll buy the game then

[grizzled aspen]

It is hilarious to parry someone with a katana and then pull a fume out of your ass and stomp at them.

They panic roll every fucking time.

[open echo]

what would a thammer build look like now?

[grizzled aspen]

The same thing as a normal ij setup.

[maiden forge]

If you dodge roll in the game your carried

[open echo]

i hjavn't really played in a year :3

[maiden forge]

Real soul players just don’t get hit

[grizzled aspen]

I trade.

[maiden forge]

Also real soul players

[grizzled aspen]

You are going to get hit with a stomp and fucking die.

So sayeth the twin princes greatsword.

[sullen forge]

Poxhoundvincible

[grizzled aspen]

(eat shit door shield users you fucking cowards)

[maiden forge]

The one meme where it’s the guy with the skeleton talking to his ear and he’s like “I should run back and get a heal”

[frosty herald]

Galevincible

[carmine falcon]

this is gonna be fun

[sullen forge]

Yamatovincible

[maiden forge]

And the skeleton goes “attack him mid fucking swing”

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-hoodvincible-omnivincible-invincible-war-mark-grayson-gif-11251246528713846572

[grizzled aspen]

@frosty herald

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[maiden forge]

Galeovincable

[grizzled aspen]

The ifunnyco watermark is chef's kiss.

[open echo]

but yeh, kinda want to run crucius + flamer since it seems silly now

[maiden forge]

Real soul players wouldn’t post an ifunny meme

[grizzled aspen]

Real souls players invented ifunny.

Scrub.

[maiden forge]

Real soul players are horrible people

Redditor attitudes

Everyone else in the community is a Souls Enjoyer

(Normal people)

[fleet zealot]

ifunny watermark

[sullen forge]

I WOULDNT EVEN VOC YOU OUT OF THE BEAST OF NURGLE GRAB!