#zealot-class

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sullen forge
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That one Emperors Children SM who literally lets Daemons nearly possess him only to crush their hope and swallow them

spare talon
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its cuz theyre all instant and easy solutions to annoyances
beacon for any corruption sources, straight up removing them
book for removing any challenge for your team
and martyrdom for removing any fun you might have

grizzled aspen
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The situations where you'd want to chorus into something are few and far between, and fewer still are ones that you can actually approach while using fucking voice of terra as toughness generation.

median steeple
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that's one way but you can just physically eat them

zinc talon
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DUZZAT MEAN

sullen forge
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That’s an actual thing he gets stronger from doing that cause he’s literally taking their energy lmao

median steeple
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In the Talon Of Horus book a space marine grabs small daemons that crawl on him and eats them just to spite them

sullen forge
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You know reading tall that

delicate shadow
sullen forge
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Just fucking rework Zealot

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Lmao

zinc talon
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give ogryn chain fist

delicate shadow
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zealots time will come, I'm sure of it

zinc talon
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give two handed chainaxe

spare talon
median steeple
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delete every class since it's too much like VT2

zinc talon
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profit

light badge
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It was glorious and terrible

median steeple
delicate shadow
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I would LOVE dt skilltrees in VT2 but good god that'd fuck the game up so hard

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it'd have to be reserved for a VT3, which will never happen

light badge
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Versus is already contingent on the modicum of balance that the talents provide, compared to the absurd fuckshit of skill trees

plush estuary
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Imagine fucking Battle Wizard with on-kill CDR

delicate shadow
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versus probably should've just stayed unfinished/unofficially cancelled lol

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hot take ik

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but yea as much as I like the skill trees compared to the old system, they absolutely are powercreep incarnate

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only way to really avoid that I think is to have had them in development since before release and build the game around them/bearing them in mind

median steeple
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I just like classes and subclasses in VT2 over the darktide system they feel way more unique and more fun

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I understand the 3 "trees" are supposed to be subclasses but damn every class feels like a blob

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and it gets worse when they remove class unique weapons

plush estuary
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its like they took VT and put everything in DT

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like every ability and keystone was something in VT

delicate shadow
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because pretty much all class balancing since P13 has been trying to play catch up with the powercreep while trying to avoid a nerf marathon that'd make even the Rainbow Six Siege devs blush

plush estuary
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they didnt make it unique

delicate shadow
median steeple
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I would want a mix of the VT2 and darktide systems honestly

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smaller trees but way more unique

delicate shadow
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yea that'd be ideal

median steeple
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I think I miss my careers

delicate shadow
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like even looking at the current skill trees, right, there's so many nodes that could be removed and nobody would care, they're just there as filler/tax for point economy

placid fiber
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middle level 25 option

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soot shield gave a ton of survivability, but, fires from ash gave you the ability to use firewalk way more often

light badge
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This is infinitely more balanced than some of Darktide's CDR though was my point

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Like, there's reasons to use things other than Fires From Ash

placid fiber
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Maybe, but, it's up to 6% cdr per second with the ability to double teleport and have the teleport's fire damage tick forever or do double damage(and both teleport burns stack for the double damage)

light badge
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Yknow, maybe speaking about a game I have under 100 hours in wasn't a good idea

placid fiber
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Heh, I was a battle wizard main. I know how busted it is >.>

placid fiber
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Oh and innately dealing damage, taking damage, and 1 other thing that I can't remember all gave some cdr(which varied based on the career)

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or it was just on hit and damage taken

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lol ironbreaker's 1/2 of a second per 1 damage taken for how much it was reduced... on the tankiest career in the game

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looks like aside from outcast being different slayer got the least cdr per 1 damage taken

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I do find it kind of odd that battle wizard got the same... it makes sense for unchained, foot knight, somewhat for handmaiden, and somewhat for merc... but idk about battle wizard

copper hawk
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Wega

nocturne cobalt
copper hawk
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Eugh

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No sleep acquired

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Full day ahead

spare talon
modern lintel
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i reside in fluoride springs

copper hawk
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I should genetically alter u

spare talon
copper hawk
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Nop

spare talon
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Weirdo

copper hawk
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Im gonna turn u into a poxwalker

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This is y ur my arch enemy

spare talon
modern lintel
copper hawk
spare talon
modern lintel
spare talon
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Try it

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Try it

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Do it

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Do it

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Do it

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Do it

copper hawk
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I HATE green eyez

spare talon
modern lintel
copper hawk
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I unlocked this awesome character ! Mechanized lobotomite !!

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Some of u need this

stone fern
copper hawk
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Nuh uh

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Im employed and hating it

stone fern
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ur employment field is the equivalent of welfare for men

copper hawk
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Vincible

copper hawk
hushed knoll
stone fern
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hi

grand tangle
# copper hawk Some of u need this

I sent 300+ job applications on indeed in 2022, 3 responses and no job.

Walked into an auto shop and asked if I could help, and now I know how to weld.

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I hate indeed so much, so much time wasted

distant yoke
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LinkedIn is even worse

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as much of a time waste except with a massive helping of cringe on top

hushed knoll
grave cypress
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honey I found the devil claw hater

stone fern
grave cypress
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I dont like making the crusher comparison because you seldom struggle wtih a crusher in reality of a game but everyone likens a weapons "goodness" to how well can it kill a crusher

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I get it, highest armour, highest health, how much damage you doing

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It mops up elites so well though, dunno what else to tell you

stone fern
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noooo everyone must have the same opinions as me 😡

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i tried it a couple of times before the parry changes

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its ok but i really have to rewire my brain to use parry

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which would not be great if i go back to other weapons

grave cypress
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Once you get the timings down (and its not as hard as it sounds because the enemy variety in the game really isnt that big) you do feel like a wizard

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Definately reccomend

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Even just negating a crusher overhead with a parry but not killing him is so much worth when you're locked in with a horde

stone fern
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id rather not get overheaded tbh

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the issue is if i allow myself to not react

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it would be a bad habit to pick up

grave cypress
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Yeah it feels a bit weird not dodging, I often cripple myself sometimes by parrying but then dodging anyway out of habit

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either way we won that game even with me and another user both using devil claws and being the only ones left alive lol

potent shuttle
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i feel knife zealot should have more then 2 extra knives for extra blitz

solar gorge
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i love parries, i wish that cool shit wasn't tied to a bland ass sword

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at last, max level

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time for auric maelstrom

grave cypress
solar gorge
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easy modifiers on mael

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first time i reach havocs with an ironman nuzlocke character

heady rapids
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manifesting a loss screen when you load rn

solar gorge
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i got this for a first assignement

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I assume Havocs drop emperor's gifts

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if they don't i'm fucked

heady rapids
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ye

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they do!!!

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they also drop plasteel via green things

full nebula
flint imp
solar gorge
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pubs aren't the issue, the limited gear is the real hard part

light badge
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anyone know if this setting applies to scrips/grims?

fleet zealot
acoustic dune
remote wasp
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When are they fixing thammer

fleet zealot
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but they are fixing you losing activation after vaulting

misty nova
stone fern
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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alright jsut need 5 levels in

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saltz and bardin

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35 each

keen yacht
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can someone drop me a meta zealot build

acoustic dune
wary timber
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lemme know when someone wants a deranged zealot build that isnt meta.

heady rapids
hearty nebula
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gom

acoustic dune
stone fern
wary timber
keen yacht
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tnx

wary timber
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I don't think I could use that willfully

acoustic dune
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(it stink)

wary timber
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Ill try but I'm terrible at using it because its just not for me.

acoustic dune
wary timber
acoustic dune
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pair it with a relic sword

wary timber
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I want stuff focusing me as zealot because im one of those front liners ill survive about anything... Unless its gunners fukin hate gunners stationing up like miles away

acoustic dune
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a loner with martydom

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should work on paper

wary timber
acoustic dune
acoustic dune
wary timber
wary timber
frosty herald
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steame lmfao

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<@&735928989146939404> scammer

acoustic dune
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someone got scoammed again

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poor bugger

full nebula
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Guys

stone fern
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😭 i missed the deal

wary timber
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This is my current main build rn

merry flume
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@fleet zealot soup

wary timber
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My reason? Its absolutely goofy but it works for me

heady rapids
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anyone has cool discord emotes

full nebula
fleet zealot
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they added a cd and it killed it

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just go skullcrusher

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it stacks up to 80% damage

remote wasp
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play crusher

fleet zealot
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don't waste a perk on reload speed on flamer, don't waste a perk for stamina on your melee,

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sub showstopper for blaze away

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ahh your talents and curios

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that's filthy

placid fiber
misty ravine
placid fiber
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no I only got shit n memes

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remember guys: The deadliest weapon(to you) in the original doom is the rocket launcher

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Cyber demon? Just start dancing

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Enemy too close to you with rocket? Deadge

hard nexus
placid fiber
violet hornet
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Wow had to peek just to see if that was sarcasm, goddamn

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Showstopper flamer whatthefuck_heresy

mighty root
mighty root
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I have more

mighty root
wary timber
full nebula
wary timber
placid fiber
fleet zealot
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i mean you can avoid being "ultra meta" and have the same beats

wary timber
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Its not my absolute preference but its what I enjoy because if I don't challenge myself its not enough

fleet zealot
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you cna have no talents and grey weapons work

placid fiber
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^

wary timber
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And I've brought it on aurics

humble dome
wary timber
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Its just too fun to go random bs and have it work.

wary timber
humble dome
fleet zealot
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need ferrets to purge my eyes

full nebula
placid fiber
stone fern
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does anyone have a heresy no modifier rolling steel mission id?

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nvm

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i think i found it

lean lark
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artian swaxe is unironically dogshit

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4 atk 1 affinity empower, has like 200 dmg less than t8 rath swaxe

full nebula
misty nova
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I don't know how to Shade

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Fuck Elf

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All my homies are Ironbreaker

solar gorge
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Slayer if you're a real one

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abysmally mid but nothing beats getting naked

mighty root
remote wasp
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play crusher

mighty root
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Crusher I sleep

remote wasp
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he doesn't know

wary timber
grand tangle
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yet again

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circle slash can now change your direction 180 degrees and combos straight into tackle, perfect gaurds dont lose sharpness and require no skill points, even more ways to access TCS

spiral ridge
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do you guys think combat blade is viable playing with chorus in havoc? if so could you guys give me a build for high havoc?

misty nova
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That's just your average single target damage havoc

hard nexus
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@light holly

light holly
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Oh shiii

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Wow

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The... variety 🥹

sullen forge
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Behold

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the Build

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anything else is dookie shit

wary timber
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Lel

hushed knoll
grizzled aspen
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Do you want it to be optimized?

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(there's a very specific talent that's bugging the fuck out of me that you took)

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(two, actually)

grizzled aspen
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Actually, fuck it, it has like five bad things.

placid fiber
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I think they built it like that on purpose

hard nexus
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it’s all bad

modern lintel
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weapons all cooked i see 8 issues w tree

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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im boutta become the fastest rockslinger in the west

grizzled aspen
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You took voice of terra instead of restoring faith, which is bad. Restoring faith is effectively 20% more hp, way better than 4% toughness on ranged kill.
The aux node on chorus is definitely not necessary, drop it to save a point.
Master's retribution isn't awful because it's capable of keeping you from getting dog'd, but it could be spent somewhere else to save a point.
Infectious zeal is only giving people in coherency with you 5% crit chance, and I wouldn't even take piety without taking scourge and a bolt pistol as your ranged choice to get instant scourge value. IJ or martyrdom would be far better. (especially since smaul has issues dealing damage)
Fortitude in fellowship is only coherency toughness generation, it's terrible, please drop it.
Then you took a random travel node above fotf, but it's toughness, so you can keep that if you otherwise couldnt afford anything else.

modern lintel
grizzled aspen
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Also you super fucked up both your weapons.

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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smh

modern lintel
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edit

modern lintel
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1000 years lithium mines

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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doesnt fortitiude in fellowship only work if you're next to enemies

grizzled aspen
grizzled aspen
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If you have an occupied slot, it is turned off.

hearty nebula
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might be time to go find myself the furry profile pic

modern lintel
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evil

light badge
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Me when 12 dreg Ragers and four crushers at once

placid fiber
grizzled aspen
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I almost wept, went to play tmodloader, clicked on singleplayer, and there were no characters. Turns out I had booted normal terraria.

visual stream
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Is there a gene in Japanese people that makes them fucking adore annoying side characters or something, why is so much media over there so consistent with that

grizzled aspen
visual stream
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Very true

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Also making said annoying side characters even more annoying by making it an unbearable perv

frosty herald
light badge
frosty herald
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Allen about to get taken to a viltrumite prison

sullen forge
frosty herald
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allen got those saiyan genes

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cant wait for the 8th episode thursday

wary timber
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But yes that's my goal, make it cursed for others but works for me. Blazing piety to buff my mates because I don't trust myself as much and I get more reward out of it for just surviving aka my goal on frontline. Survive and have them target you, I don't just use shock maul thats just happening rn

placid fiber
grizzled aspen
placid fiber
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rushed delivery is damaged from movement speed iirc

distant yoke
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what is the addiction all high level zealots have with speedrunning the game

distant yoke
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it's just so unfun

hearty nebula
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at least in my experience

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it's usually lower level zealots trying to do it

grand tangle
vernal osprey
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wel mk3 knife

fleet zealot
visual stream
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Unless by speedrunning you mean actually killing everything and quickly instead of just running past

distant yoke
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no coming back for the low level Stealth Vet on our team who was constantly in some shit or the other

copper hawk
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Zealot suffers the longer you're out of combat

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So a Zealot has to run from each engagement to the next in order to proc anything, or maintain anything

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Fury dies without killing things leaving you vulnerable and critless

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Marty only procs if you take damage in engagements

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And IJ only procs when you engage an enrmy

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Enemy*

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And you have to move around/dodge while engaged in order to get stacks

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So the game urges you to constantly be moving forward or suffer

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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Absolutely yes

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Marty is stupid

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The thing with zealot in vt2 is that you DONT go down

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That's the whole point

broken walrus
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You FOTF some gunners, aggro some other gunners, charge those guys, and some more get aggroed, etc.

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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You lose HP to get the benefits, but so long as you remain in combat you're good

heady rapids
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what if marty converted your toughness into hp

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and introduced thp

copper hawk
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You're punished for avoiding combat

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Aka, for not doing your job

heady rapids
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vemtindie doing things better than darktide spotted again................

copper hawk
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Temp hp is easy to earn and Zealot benefits the same way Marty does

copper hawk
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Marty zeal still is punished for taking damage because you can just go down lmfao

heady rapids
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but we have to suffer with damage bleedthrough chipping you throughout the mission

copper hawk
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Exactly

acoustic dune
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me n you

heady rapids
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and not having a good cdr

copper hawk
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It's fucking stupid

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Needs to be temp hp

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Some attacks will always chip too

distant yoke
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Never thought about it that way

copper hawk
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So you have to crutch on HR

copper hawk
heady rapids
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zealot rework uhh

copper hawk
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The game doesnt have roles, but it totally does - and that's a good thing

heady rapids
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ey

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maybe make it a base thing

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like ogryn pushing enemeis

copper hawk
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Nah according to Hank zealot needs to be taken out back and shot in the kneecaps

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No rework for us

acoustic dune
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the only thing that cause zealot death is trapper

acoustic dune
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and dats it

copper hawk
heady rapids
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ogryn has a parry trapper button now.....................................

copper hawk
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Essentially what they have to do to proc stuff

acoustic dune
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i love getting trap in a horde and not be able to move when the trapper trap me

copper hawk
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Vet gets stuff for existing or hitting headshots/killing specials

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Being at high hp, being out of combat

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Rewarded for killing special enemies with more dmg, cdr, tdr, and tness

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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Backline sniper to rear melee support

acoustic dune
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ey frog

mighty root
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@acoustic dune Sometimes it just takes a sensitive young whiteboy to tame the worms

heady rapids
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didnt vet also take 2x melee toughness damage at some point

acoustic dune
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how was diner

copper hawk
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Zealot needs to be in combat to proc everything

heady rapids
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nvm

grizzled aspen
heady rapids
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that was in sliding ith ik

copper hawk
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I dont think any of our talents are busted

copper hawk
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Moreso than any already in the game

grizzled aspen
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Duellist is definitely busted.

acoustic dune
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wanna play some match ocelot

grizzled aspen
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It is the entire disrupt destiny keystone in one single talent.

acoustic dune
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lite ocelot

copper hawk
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Vet has a version of duelist on the right side of their tree

grizzled aspen
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Yeah, desperado, and its only for melee.

mighty root
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I wish more classes had stuff akin to second wind

grizzled aspen
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25% weakspot and 10% crit chance with melee only.

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Duellist works on guns.

copper hawk
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Yah

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I know

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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Im fine w it that way rlly, it's more busted on melee anyways

grizzled aspen
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Duellist either needs its magnitude reigned in a bit or to make it melee only.

acoustic dune
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welp time to make a horrid built

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loner and matyr

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and prob shroudfield

grizzled aspen
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But anywho, I'm not for only nerfs on zealout.

mighty root
grizzled aspen
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We definitely need a lot of talents reworked.

visual stream
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Brauto stocks down

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Sadgedy

north sedge
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Nerf everything

acoustic dune
mighty root
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Yeah nerf everything

heady rapids
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nerf eveyrhting but unironically

acoustic dune
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the sequel to naruto?

heady rapids
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also revert to pre 13 and remove skill trees

heady rapids
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make subclasses their own classes

copper hawk
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If we're speaking about nerfs being necessary from the perspective of a playtester partially responsible for only buff Ogryn rework, i want the same treatment before we consider any nerfs

mighty root
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Remove everything

grizzled aspen
visual stream
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Ermm acktchually it boruto

copper hawk
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Or at least a rework

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Like actually give and take

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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Ogryn got a parry everything talent before the melee focused mobility duellist character did

mighty root
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The slop is here

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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Dont forget about what happened to lightning reflexes

visual stream
grizzled aspen
visual stream
grizzled aspen
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I would accept a second wind nerf but only if the other sources got massively buffed.

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Lowest I'd go on it would be 10%.

tidal berry
acoustic dune
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wth

visual stream
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Man I fucking hate build diversity

acoustic dune
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why do i need to log in

visual stream
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Bring us back to 322132 or whatever

mighty root
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It’s so fuzzy

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It’s like furmark

copper hawk
tidal berry
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its like fur

tidal berry
visual stream
copper hawk
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Path opinion is discarded for the most part by me

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U can tell him i said this

heady rapids
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how to make zealot good

heady rapids
copper hawk
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Other good players r of the same opinion

copper hawk
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Ive seen his gameplay

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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I dont trust his game change decisions

acoustic dune
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lemme go get it

copper hawk
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Or judgement

acoustic dune
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@heady rapids

copper hawk
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He can collect and aggregate data and draw conclusions from them, but theory fails when your practical applications are lacking

heady rapids
copper hawk
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He's also a jerk when he's wrong about something empirical

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The Eviscerator Latch Incident

acoustic dune
mighty root
heady rapids
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whats zealot chat opinion on wildfire bt

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w

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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I am too angy 2 filter my wordz

mighty root
acoustic dune
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time to see how else this is

copper hawk
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I FUCKING HATE THIS DEPLOYMENT !!!

mighty root
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Even with purg i don’t use wildfire

heady rapids
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i dont use wildifre period

mighty root
heady rapids
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idc if its good on trauma even cause playing trauma feels like hammering nails under your

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uh

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nails

heady rapids
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sir yes sir

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oorah

copper hawk
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I dont rlly know ehat 2 say about wildfire

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I dont rlly play psyker

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I play zeal and oggy

mighty root
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One moment

solar gorge
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true survivor stealth zealot in my havoc run on m challenge character

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went down 5 times

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died 3 times

heady rapids
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trauma when a slightest change in elevation happens

copper hawk
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LMFAO

heady rapids
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oops! my weapon does nothing now

copper hawk
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Trauma when stairs

heady rapids
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trauma when mid mission event on that assassination map

copper hawk
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Idk why they didnt just do the source engine shit

heady rapids
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the one where you reroute the train

solar gorge
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true survivor doesn't mean anything shit title

copper hawk
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And make stairs basically a texture

heady rapids
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has floors with holes in them

copper hawk
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And have the actual geometry be a ramp

heady rapids
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but they could do that for trauma exclusively lol

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implement the logic just for rmb to use it

copper hawk
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Yeah

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I mean

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Tf2 does that

heady rapids
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make its targeting hitbox larger so it cant clip inside

copper hawk
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The ramp from attacker spawn upward to go up to the upper area of spawn is a ramp

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But u can shoot thru the stairs

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Fire also goes up it

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And projectiles like rollers go up it or roll down it too

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On some ancient ass janky spaghetti engine

solemn gulch
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Zealot should have eyelander and tide turner

copper hawk
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Nah

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Zealot broken rember

solar gorge
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still a lot of splash damage cucking geometry on that map

copper hawk
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Trust me i totally play zealot (highest rank is vet or oggy by far)

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Give them the fuckib

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Caber treatment

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Grrs and groels

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Growls

visual stream
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groels

copper hawk
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Wait a moment

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On the bull rush thing

solar gorge
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splash dmg issues are for feethunters who can't direct hit anyway

copper hawk
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Lmfao blade ur right

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Zealot still gets trapped or pounced even w the beginning i frames

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On chastise

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L00000L

heady rapids
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ogryn just

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catches the net mid rush

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tears it into shreds

visual stream
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Well dogs get staggered out of it because you're a moving ball of impact at that point

copper hawk
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That's actually nuts tbh

visual stream
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But yeah trappers are an ancient enemy of chastise since day one

copper hawk
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Just make it exactly like fuckin zealot chastise

heady rapids
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first class with a direct trapper counter

copper hawk
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Guh

heady rapids
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like a fucking dedicated button

copper hawk
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Immune to gunfire is literally all it needed

visual stream
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Nah I think immune to trapper nets while dashing in bull rush would be cool

heady rapids
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not even shout and taunt can compete

copper hawk
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Not to mention knocking over 5 enemies basically restored you to full toughness

visual stream
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Since chastise is a lot faster and easier to cancel

mighty root
visual stream
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And two charges

copper hawk
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Hard disagree

heady rapids
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dude imnot playing trauma i dont like the weapon!!!!

copper hawk
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zealot chastise is tremendously inconsistent

mighty root
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Optimize it however you like this is what I run with it @heady rapids

heady rapids
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i didnt like it in vermintide i dont like it here

copper hawk
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you can't control all the time where it targets

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it can go forward 5 feet or 20

heady rapids
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they need to make good staves

copper hawk
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it can charge to a gunner behind the one you're looking at

heady rapids
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maybe in 2027

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idk

copper hawk
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blocking doesn't always cancel it

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neither does dodging

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or crouching

solar gorge
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staves are fucked as a concept anyway

copper hawk
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you cant move while using it with any direction keys

heady rapids
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did they ever fix chastise not highlighting shit?

copper hawk
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nope

visual stream
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The physical movement is faster, there is 0 startup between pressing the button and moving, while ogryn gets one charge and has to hold up his hand before moving

heady rapids
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gr8

copper hawk
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ogryn u press s

visual stream
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Agree about the jank targeting but it is kinda more servicable in most every other way

copper hawk
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and it ALWAYS stops

visual stream
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Especially since you get iframes to bursters

copper hawk
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it's very useful for this

solemn gulch
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Wish I could charge with shield up on ogryn

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Would be pretty fun

copper hawk
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i know this for a fact in practical reality because i use charge's
controllable nature to spot stun lots of enemies in an area

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zealot charge i consistently have it take me across entire engagements

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or get stuck on random fucking poxwalkers for some reason

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or just move like 5 feet

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staring at a crusher 15 feet away and i charge 5 fucking feet

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this happens about 6 or 5 times on average in game

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in vt2, zealot's charge could be stopped by pressing block DURING your charge

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that's inconsistent on this one for... some reason

solar gorge
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i hope they made the paul better can't wait for the weapon patch notes

copper hawk
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i cant wait to play oggu

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oggy

heady rapids
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playtesters mentioned it but we dont know if its gonna hit live

copper hawk
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goodbye zealot lmfao

heady rapids
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and they cant talk about it either

solar gorge
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that weapon so ass

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it needs a rework

heady rapids
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so far i think every main rework has been great

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for weapons that is

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chainaxe

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crusher

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what else was there ....... obscurus

visual stream
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I can't think of any time DT made an update that missed so hard other than Elite Resistance existing briefly

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So I think we're safe from doomposting

heady rapids
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depends on who you ask

copper hawk
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A Playtester saying Zealot needs to be taken out back and kneecapped makes me want to doompost

visual stream
copper hawk
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If they nerf zeal ill just stop playing though

visual stream
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I think the staff canceling deserves gutting

copper hawk
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Negative review and leave

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Finally break my reoccuring darktide addiction

solar gorge
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all classes are in need of nerfs

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but fs can only buff

copper hawk
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That's fine honestly

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So long as they consistently buff everyone

visual stream
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As long as we're compensated in a reasonable way or it's not a silly nerf I'm cool with it

copper hawk
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Buff and then nerf back into line

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Dont need a buff

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Buff wont fix zealot

solar gorge
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the environment is getting powercrept hard

copper hawk
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We need a ground up rework

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Our tree is just fucking terrible

copper hawk
solar gorge
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not goot

heady rapids
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zealot needs to have 2/3rds of their tree reworked

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a lot of talents are just bad

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a lot of them are trying to make ranged zealot work

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and fail miserably

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the pathing is horrible

copper hawk
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Nah the whole thing

heady rapids
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no interconnected nodes

copper hawk
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All the point taxes

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Missing talents

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How the keystones work

visual stream
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I think the game is mostly balanced but the few broken things make it certainly not feel like it

copper hawk
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Worthless talents (unremitting, blessed gunslinger, etc)

visual stream
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Make sainted gunslinger give ranged dmg instead of reload when

copper hawk
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Worthless talents

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So many worthless talents

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Talents that just suck compared to their counterparts

steel agate
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Hard to beat something like scourge but to each their own

copper hawk
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EWEW giving less than half the tness generated by at arms length for doing the same thing relative to their class roles

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Despite ewew being the one for the character in active combat, receiving tness damage and damage in general

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I honestly agreed w path saying they could change second wind so long as they brought the other tness nodes in line w the generation of other classes

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Press R for 4 seconds for a full bar of tness

visual stream
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And making pathing better/not filled with dog nuts ☝️

copper hawk
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Also, those classes having maybe a 1 or 2 point tax

heady rapids
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yeah pathing needs a full rework

copper hawk
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As opposed to ours requiring you to be pigeon holed into a blitz

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Absurd

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Why does Chorus have a required node ?

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Why ?

heady rapids
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all classes have pretty much unrestricted access to what nade or aura you take

visual stream
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Only nerfing SW and buffing the other options is only a nerf because you gimp yourself getting there no matter how good

heady rapids
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related to zealot

copper hawk
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It's the only ult in the game with a required node

heady rapids
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zealot makes you take a load of shit first

copper hawk
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VoC does essentially the same thing as Chorus w no mandatory talent

hearty nebula
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unironically just delete half of zealots talent's

copper hawk
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Zealot's tree, I argue, is unfinished

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copper hawk
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Notice anything weird at the top of these trees ??

fleet zealot
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if you are a weirdo online?

copper hawk
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Anything.. missing ??

hearty nebula
fleet zealot
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every patch is terrible and review bomb worthy

copper hawk
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Like ?? A talent where a node is ??

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Excluding the 3 stupid point tax nodes straight out of blitz

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The leftmost middle tree has a NODE where a talent should be

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copper hawk
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Smokin gun of an unfinished, lazily made tree imho

visual stream
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People doompost in every single update, but it is valid to be worried when a playtester says something about kneecapping zealot

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I would guess they mean specific minmaxed builds that are actually silly

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But Idk

fleet zealot
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also darktide =live service parroting

heady rapids
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zealot needs tuning down but it's less of a priority compared to a full rework

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you can always tweak the numbers later

fleet zealot
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this one article said darktide is a live service game so it must be a live service and i must get mad cause it's not live servicy enough

copper hawk
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Mmm i love drip fed slop

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Id be fine if they never touched zeal till the death of the game

heady rapids
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me when fatshark makes a fun modifier then takes it away from me after two weeks pass

copper hawk
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Now that theyve unshittified oggy

heady rapids
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imagine if twins got removed

copper hawk
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Uh

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They were

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Twice

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Before the special assignment mission

heady rapids
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i mran the mission

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but yeah the modifier getting removed also sucks

copper hawk
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They were special event enemies for special mission (something lurking in the dark i think?)

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And then they were removed

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Like after a week or two lmfao

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Imagine

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If in havoc

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Instead of slopifiers

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They would have like

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Some slopifiers, but had a chance likr

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At like higher havoc you could get two additional modifers from the entire pool

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Excluding havoc exclusive ones

heady rapids
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if only havoc didn't suck dick

copper hawk
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Monst specials, melee only, lurking in the dark even, etc

heady rapids
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then yeah

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that would be nice

visual stream
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?

copper hawk
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Nope lmfao

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Just havoc exclusive ones

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+Moebians and some others

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None of the fun obes

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Moebians are fun though

heady rapids
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it was so exciting seeing moebian returning

copper hawk
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But none of the rlly fun ones

heady rapids
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just for the realisation to hit when havoc actually dropped

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that they made weaves 2.0

copper hawk
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It's fucking stupid lmfao

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They couldve just remade the Deed system and theyd of been fine

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GRAAAH

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This game needs a hero

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This thread needs a hero..

heady rapids
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just for that gif alone they should start removing maelstrom modifiers instead

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copper hawk
frosty herald
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:(

heady rapids
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maybe they're banning zealot players from this server in preparation for the rework

acoustic dune
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not ferret skin

acoustic dune
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an actual ferret

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cough cough

acoustic dune
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anyhow trying to make a martydom build

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with relic sword

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kinda mad that the weapon combo kinda stink

heady rapids
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just use the superior mk10

acoustic dune
heady rapids
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sprint

modern lintel
acoustic dune
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eh fair nuff

coarse dagger
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is that spaghetti squash and chicken with shaker parm

heady rapids
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im gonna lose my fuicking mind with this subreddit

mild echo
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Hopium is real

heady rapids
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how did this go up to 110 upvotes

mild echo
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Those who hope will see what they want to see, regardless if there really is a 5th character or not.

obsidian quail
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Tertium 5

fringe bay
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What the hell even would be the fifth class if there was one

mild echo
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People say AdMech

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but there is a big problem with that

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Members of the Adeptus Mechanicus would have their respective jurisdiction independent from the Imperial Jurisdiction.

heady rapids
fringe bay
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Isn’t that just psyker

heady rapids
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i mean no not really

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like

fringe bay
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I forget that adeptus isn’t psyker

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But they got similar drip so

heady rapids
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they're augmanted humans

mild echo
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Adeptus Astra Telepathica.

fringe bay
heady rapids
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adeptus just means uhh

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what does adeptus mean again?

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The icon of the Adeptus Terra. Adepts, adepta or adeptus is the formal title given to the individual Imperial servants of the various departments of the Adeptus Terra that serve the will of the beneficent Emperor.

fringe bay
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I’m a cadian fan, idk

heady rapids
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a formal title

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here itsi

fringe bay
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I heavily doubt we’ll get a 5th class regardless

visual stream
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Seemingly just means "Sanctioned" or authorized/official

fringe bay
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Yeah sanctioned is basically the entire way the adeptus operates

heady rapids
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kinda but also not really

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cause there's other titles

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that also serve the imperium but the word adeptus is not used

visual stream
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True

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Like Astra Militarum for guard

mild echo
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I always see it as a different word for an Organization that serves a specific function

visual stream
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Makes sense to me

mild echo
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Since we also have something like the Adeptus Mechanicus, which is is an organization within the Imperium but it works very much differently compared to say the Adeptus Astra Telepathica.

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Mechanicus in particular is really just an independent entity within the Imperium.

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Coming back to this, if there really would be an AdMech reject, how would that individual end up on the Tancred Prison ship in the first place? Because the Mechanicus would handle this person and their crimes.

visual stream
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"We only tolerate you because you're the only reason half of our machinery and weapons work"

visual stream
visual stream
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Was about to say that too

heady rapids
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we're part of an inquisitorial warband, remember?

mild echo
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Probably.

visual stream
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Does the Mechanicus do penance things for disgraced members?

heady rapids
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nah they probably mind wipe them if its a servitor

visual stream
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I don't think I've heard of that but if so it could be for that

heady rapids
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or a

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uhh

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combat unit of any kind

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but mechanicus overall can get away with a lot of bullshittery

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mainly cause they're the main cause of imperium existing

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pretty much

visual stream
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Ooo it could even be Hadron sticking her nose in and getting some of her underlings or colleagues in there

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I think she already did that with Kayex, and she's been sticking her nose in places where they don't want her to IIRC

fleet zealot
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Reject tier reinforcements from mars

atomic fjord
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I’ve been listening to wolfenstuen 2 recently while playing my shotgun + axe zealot

fleet zealot
heady rapids
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sm2 is the best mainstream media depiction of how mechanicus are really big shitheads

heady rapids
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they also kidnap people and turn them into servitors

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not much you can do about it

mild echo
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The Inquisition isn't all powerful, even tho they could technically enforce whatever they want, they rarely go that far.

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The Mechanicus can really just say "No".

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Same with Rogue Traders, depending on what their Warrant gives them.

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Brahms in particular only helps Grendyl because she's indebted to Grendyl.

atomic fjord
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Which zealot drip should I go to next

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I’m bored of my current rn

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atomic fjord
acoustic dune
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WTH IS THAT

heady rapids
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The Psychic Scourge, also later resurrected as "Project Aurora," was a powerful Warp-based device originally created by the Necrons that was rediscovered and further developed by Inquisitor Drogan on the Forge World of Graia. Intended to be used as a powerful weapon against the Orks assaulting the Forge World and potentially other xenos enemies of the Imperium, in fact it was a ruse created by the machinations of the Chaos Sorcerer Nemeroth so that he could bring his Heretic Astartes warband, the Chosen of Nemeroth, to Graia and claim the Psychic Scourge's Warp-based power source, which would allow him to channel enough Warp energy into his sorcerous rituals to ascend to become a Daemon Prince.

median steeple
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Another necron W and humanity L

atomic fjord
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Get off discord bro

mild echo
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Guys what is this heresy, please.

heady rapids
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btw y'all should watch daredevil born again

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cool shit

grand tangle
#

than horus

fleet zealot
twin wagon
heady rapids
#

this one is arguably worse

heady rapids
heady rapids
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of course

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this shit would be valid if it was a power maul post

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but power sword?

twin wagon
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We have space marines in MHW

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Palico Marines

fringe bay
formal umbra
heady rapids
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knife and ds ARE overtuned yes

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but

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this guy genuinely has a skissue

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if he lists fucking power sword

fringe bay
#

What makes knife broken, exactly? Uncanny?

twin wagon
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Speed

heady rapids
#

uncanny, dodges, finesse scaling

twin wagon
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But uncanny finess

obsidian prairie
#

Uncanny is on shovel

fringe bay
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Ah

heady rapids
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access to precog

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being available on zealot on top of that

fringe bay
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Okay so it’s too fast

obsidian prairie
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Knife just goes fast

twin wagon
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Speed breaks the spawns and the rest is just a + on top

heady rapids
#

knife hits monstosities for 10k

obsidian prairie
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and lets you outrun shit if you want to play the game wrong

fringe bay
#

Honestly knife feels like a vet exclusive weapon

formal umbra
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Fatshark give the vet power sword the relic blade heat mechanic and my life is yours

heady rapids
#

knife horde clears also

fringe bay
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But yeah it should be slower

heady rapids
#

there's not a single thing that knife doesnt do

obsidian prairie
heady rapids
fringe bay
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I like the knife a lot but I can just run up onto enemies 50 meters away in like 5 seconds

formal umbra
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Oh well my vet will gather more dust

fringe bay
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It’s a bit stupid

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Either way, I’m a shovel gamer at heart

formal umbra
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I really really wish I liked the shovel more

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It's The Funny

fringe bay
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I like the heavy attack

formal umbra
#

I just like the feel of the Rashad more

fringe bay
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The combat axe is so much more fun with brutal

formal umbra
#

Yeah

fringe bay
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I like the mark 7 the most though

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Because it’s like the shovel but the combat axe

acoustic dune
#

i blew myself of the map

heady rapids
#

noob

formal umbra
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noob alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

acoustic dune
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the worse enemy was myself

heady rapids
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i once killed myself in the funniest way ever

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y'all are never beating what im bout to post

acoustic dune
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ogryn wearing a toupee

heady rapids
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filmed at 5 am

acoustic dune
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was the best change ever

winged aspen
light badge
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I killed a scab captain with Peril explosion KEKW_ogryn

winged aspen
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(He was stealth zealot)

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It shocks me this works

heady rapids
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why wouldnt it

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you picked liek

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80% of all the generally good nodes?

frozen crystal
broken walrus
#

sometimes you just blow up

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# frozen crystal

I have it on there because with max damage buffs + trauma at my feet I get to roleplay as a bomb

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once per medicae

heady rapids
#

werid choice of weapons

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wait

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is voidblast trauma or ball

light badge
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trauma

heady rapids
#

yeah weird choice of weapons

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both competing for horde clear

light badge
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not necessarily

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trauma has much stronger stagger so its better defense, the FGS has stronger offense but less stagger

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so it can't safely deal with things like, 6 crushers for example

heady rapids
#

less stagger? force push has insane stagger

light badge
#

for a single target, yes

heady rapids
#

well true for crushers but as a scriesrs fgs user i just kinda

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dodge and kill them..

light badge
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also, it's funny

heady rapids
#

i really didnt like trauma paired with fgs cause it competed wit hthe hordeclear

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felt weird to play

light badge
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because I throw trauma into a horde and sometimes a random rager dies

heady rapids
#

so i picked vraks 5

light badge
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quite funny

lunar fable
#

@frosty herald

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i'm finally free

frosty herald
#

Peak

lunar fable
visual stream
lunar fable
#

it does

visual stream
#

Shame

acoustic dune
#

the madman is evolving

ornate bone
#

Is crosshairs for melee a modded thing?

acoustic dune
drifting hinge
#

Guys guys

hearty nebula
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Mods

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nvm

#

i already did that one

lunar fable
#

🐮
udderLooking

twin wagon