hidden between shit
#zealot-class
naive wharf
gray ice
I dunno what the bp's are or if they've changed anymore i'm a casual
fleet zealot
and perk doesn't help it
the perk BPs are for deathblow procing so you can kill 4 elites a swing
placid fiber
Welp... if I have 3 toughness curios on my Vet I end up with 266 toughness <.<
naive wharf
why carapace
crushers and maulers
and i thought you weren't gonna bother with a perk argument?
its not like im gonna magdump my bolter 7 times for a crusher stack
placid fiber
with 5% toughnes perks on all 3
fleet zealot
but i've seen so much conflicting information, apparently flak maniac isn't the most optimal but it's probably still the safest
fleet zealot
crushers and maulers
and i thought you weren't gonna bother with a perk argument...
yes you are, or you are going to slowly chip away at crusher heads with special+h1 loops
also maulers
just hit chest
hsword has great flak
with shattering puncture
you can reliably 4 shot crushers
with bolter
that's just how the cookie crumbles with hsword
it's so strong except vs carapace
naive wharf
yes you are, or you are going to slowly chip away at crusher heads with special+...
looks like im just gonna go back to mk4 chaineaxe, because having a melee that can't reliably deal with crushers and having it put on the ranged weapon that i already have built for boss magdumping and sniping gunners sounds a bit ass ngl
fleet zealot
i mean shattering puncture is the best boltgun period for bossing as well
for zealot*
grizzled aspen
You can just chastise h1 them with mk9 and instakill them.
I dont even think you need a duellist proc, I think it can just do that.
naive wharf
You can just chastise h1 them with mk9 and instakill them.
i prefer mk 4 chainaxe because the lights can be pretty safely spammed on elites, and a revved light will stagger crushers
grizzled aspen
I mean, if you're a twbs gamer, I'm pretty sure you can stagger crushers with a grievous wounds special on hsword.
delicate shadow
grizzled aspen
Actually, @naive wharf , show me your loadout you're using with hsword.
Sword, ranged choice, and talents.
I wanna see the whole thing.
naive wharf
Actually, <@472745170455232543> , show me your loadout you're using with hsword.
probably not the right loadout for Hsword, gimme a sec
general heavier weapon builds like eviscerator and relic blade
probably better with the crit build i use with stuff like tac axe and chainsword
its literally a 1 point difference
scourge instead of blood redemption
fleet zealot
Unironically, try martyrdom.
^
grizzled aspen
If you drop punishment and below you can grab everything you need for martyrdom.
grizzled aspen
Otherwise, you can drop punishment and below and take IJ with retributors stance and then pick up grievous wounds to stagger crushers with your special.
Also, with what you've got going on rn, you don't have scourge so you couldn't maximize iod value anyway.
wise adder
did the zelot get a rework or no?
fleet zealot
we are most likely on the list for next talent rework
we are the only class with the patch13 style talent tree
brisk raft
Question is... nerfs or buffs?
grizzled aspen
Question is... nerfs or buffs?
Hopefully huge buffs across the board and having talents like second wind, duellist, and iod be reigned in a bit.
fleet zealot
we have a clearly meta pathing that some things will be nerfed to compensate for all the shit options being removed, changed or buffed
grizzled aspen
The fact that second wind is our only viable toughness generation is criminal.
brisk raft
Yey more option!
hard nexus
zealot is going to become busted
and it makes me sad
all of the classes will be busted
the ogryn rework is going to be insane
fleet zealot
Nah zealot not psyker or vet
Not allowed to be busted
You will be simply melee press dodge and crit
brisk raft
I still just want Meltagun
brisk raft
Imagine Ogryn gets Duelling Sword
broken walrus
fleet zealot
ebon bobcat
Imagine Ogryn gets Duelling Sword
You didn't saw it on Ogryn Chat
placid fiber
Man... I was really binging hades 1 after I bought it on the 5th... I already have 37 hours in it... <.<'
grizzled aspen
Fun game. 
brisk raft
You didn't saw it on Ogryn Chat
Dafuk is big boi arm doing?? Hahaha
visual stream
The fact that second wind is our only viable toughness generation is criminal.
MAYBE if EWEW wasn't a fifty point investment
grizzled aspen
EWEW is 2 points, it just has a shite activation requirement and no magnitude.
3 enemies within 12m(?) and it's like 2.5% per second.
fleet zealot
3 enemies within 12m(?) and it's like 2.5% per second.
More like 4% because tick rate
Because remember
north sedge
activation is perfectly fine, the amount is no longer that much
fleet zealot
Old EWEW was 5% on label
grizzled aspen
It's 2.5% within 5m of 3 enemies.
fleet zealot
But 8% with tick rate
And that lowkey was busted asf
They should fix the tick rate thing tho so it actually makes sense
grizzled aspen
Path and I had discussed it and we came to the conclusion that it should have functionality both within and outside of 5m of enemies.
I think he wanted more toughness when near enemies and less when away from them, but it still be passive.
visual stream
Same amount at both would be silly so that makes sense
fleet zealot
So like more the merrier
From kruber mercenary talent
But toughness generation
Instead of power
grizzled aspen
I have no idea what that is.
visual stream
Would be funny if it additionally scaled with how many psykers were in coherency
Just as a secondary effect
fleet zealot
I have no idea what that is.
Kruber gains 5% power for each nearby enemy up to 25%
grizzled aspen
I played kruber only to butcher rats, and I never took anything that didn't assist me in that.
grizzled aspen
Kruber gains 5% power for each nearby enemy up to 25%
Oh then I probably took that skill.
hearty nebula
hearty nebula
unkills your rats
grizzled aspen
WHAT
KEEP YOUR MITTS AWAY FROM ME, FURRED CREATURE
MY AMPHIBIOUS FLESH DETESTS SUCH FIBERS
hidden grove
Holy shit frog molestation
fleet zealot
Holy shit frog molestation
hard nexus
obsidian prairie
I got both of those free
hard nexus
I got both of those free
yeah well you stink soooo
tranquil saddle
@fringe bay @ionic nymph any worth keeping?
fringe bay
Interesting
ionic nymph
i use shred and perfect strike
fringe bay
So yeah I suppose keep the cleave one
ionic nymph
and when i get it up i can sponge gunners mostly
hard nexus
they r peak
tranquil saddle
what blessings do you run on it
hard nexus
peakity peak peak
obsidian prairie
get exodus!!!!
Nuh uuuuhhhhh!!!!!
tranquil saddle
cause im doing that relic build
obsidian prairie
Got my 3rd and fourth runs of RT to beat
fringe bay
what blessings do you run on it
Also you always want weapons with a specific dump stat, ideally the setup is 4 80s and 1 60
hard nexus
<@672590611521470464> <@265607853098795018> any worth keeping?
assuming you're playing at lower difficulties, stats dont really matter that much
tranquil saddle
supportive type charater
obsidian prairie
and KCD
ionic nymph
because i rely on crits
tranquil saddle
i play on damn
hard nexus
but just save money rn
tranquil saddle
and havok
hard nexus
i play on damn
ok then dump mobility
ionic nymph
5-7 buffs
hard nexus
it works but it wont work as well in havoc
ionic nymph
i don't use my evis in havoc
hard nexus
and losing 2% dodge distance and some sprint speed in exchange for i think 1-2 extra cleave
ionic nymph
i use chain axe
tranquil saddle
what blessing do you use?
hard nexus
isnt really worth it
hard nexus
what blessing do you use?
meta mk3 evis is perfect strike shred, flak elites
ionic nymph
right
hard nexus
with a right path blazing piety build
fringe bay
Oh psyker does have a chainaxe, cool
ionic nymph
they do yeah
hard nexus
you can squeeze out more damage with martyrdom or IJ but the cleave from PS is really nice
and the L1 and L4 on crits with buffs can one shot scab ragers
ionic nymph
chaxe and double barrel is my favorite zel combo
fringe bay
I like the chainaxe so much more than the sword
ionic nymph
i use the sword occasionally when i mess aorund
fringe bay
And with the weapon customization mod I can make it look like the sword
ionic nymph
i like revovler and double barrel on zealot
hard nexus
you can squeeze out more damage with martyrdom or IJ but the cleave from PS is r...
note that cleave on evis is weird, as you'll only damage 4 enemies per swing on light attacks, (as many as you hit on H1, but terrible cleave damage distribution makes it more or less worthless anyway)
evis is really weak
i love it
ionic nymph
thats why i said crusher is better
hard nexus
but it sucks
hard nexus
thats why i said crusher is better
literally everything except like
mk1 Dclaw is better
lmfao
ionic nymph
did they actually fix that
hard nexus
its got better horde clear and better single target than evis
ionic nymph
cause
hard nexus
it never needed to be fixed
fringe bay
mk1 dclaw and the iron helm thammer
Least they’re buffing the claw
ionic nymph
when iron helm was first introduced
hard nexus
Least they’re buffing the claw
eh its a minor change that just brings it in line with the other dclaws
ionic nymph
its when they first introduced
hard nexus
mk1 will still suck
fringe bay
Better than it being shit
hard nexus
it was so bad
its never been bad
it loses single target in exchange for horde clear and versatility
thats the point of the ironhelm
ionic nymph
fair i guess
hard nexus
it horde clears well
like an illisi
and still has solid single target
now with the crucius buffs
its overshadowed
ionic nymph
fair enough
ionic nymph
which knfie variant is better
hard nexus
was push going into H3 for the overhead
sterile basalt
which knfie variant is better
Mk6 is better
hard nexus
both are fine, depends on havoc or not
sterile basalt
But mk3 is easier
north sedge
its never been bad
No when it came out it was really bad and power straight up broke the special
fringe bay
I prefer 3
plucky gate
yeah i think ironhelm used to just pass through shit
ionic nymph
isn't the mk6 the stabby one
north sedge
Yea
hard nexus
isn't the mk6 the stabby one
thats mk3
ionic nymph
oh
ionic nymph
but yes get is right
hard nexus
for heavies
ionic nymph
release weak
north sedge
If you had power the special would just slide through elites
ionic nymph
iron helm was bugged asf
plucky gate
it would just go right through an elite during the special and not special bonk it
hard nexus
If you had power the special would just slide through elites
oh i remember now
i rember !
anyway
sincec that was fixed
ionic nymph
thats why i hated thunder helm
ionic nymph
i'll try it then
north sedge
Even after they fixed that it's breakpoints were crap until after p13
ionic nymph
thank you
ionic nymph
crusher has infinite cleave
hard nexus
but thats just because they are OP
delicate shadow
crusher isn't overshadowed, everyone is just WRONG
this post made by crusher gang
hard nexus
crusher isn't overshadowed, everyone is just WRONG
erm sentenced to duo with crusher vs relic blade
see who does better
north sedge
this post made by crusher gang
delicate shadow
sure but only if the relic user is a shit player so I can confirm my bias
ionic nymph
lol
hard nexus
sure but only if the relic user is a shit player so I can confirm my bias
true,,,
north sedge
torpid tulip
i saw a zealot two shot bosses on auric maelstrom. what build does that?
ionic nymph
2 shot is not the most effiecent
north sedge
Hammer
ionic nymph
ive seen zealots 1 shot
torpid tulip
with what build?
flint imp
i saw a zealot two shot bosses on auric maelstrom. what build does that?
Th martyrdom stealth
hard nexus
i saw a zealot two shot bosses on auric maelstrom. what build does that?
thunder hammr
hard nexus
i saw a zealot two shot bosses on auric maelstrom. what build does that?
2 shot is probably chastise, with purge the unclean, with thammer thats got thrust and unyielding on it
ionic nymph
fair enough
hard nexus
or it was stealth build
ionic nymph
thats a nice set up to meow
hard nexus
stealth thammer can one shot all bosses raw
except plague ogryn
that you need an extra like
5% damage to one shot
ionic nymph
plague oggy just has the most health
delicate shadow
HOW
ionic nymph
also today was funny when a zealot ran in to fight a plague ogryn and got headbutted across the map into a dh which got triggered instantly and they died
it was awful but so funny at the same time
honestly the demon host reminds me of the witch from lfd2
except the instant death the witch does if she touches you
hard nexus
honestly the demon host reminds me of the witch from lfd2
yeah its just an environmental hazard
its not meant to be fought
mighty root
Made my first homunculus
ionic nymph
i can stun lock a dh as og
hard nexus
i like fighting them
mighty root
Ignore my pretty nails
ionic nymph
with frag box and rumbler
flint imp
honestly the demon host reminds me of the witch from lfd2
Witch still give me the creeps hearing her crying
ionic nymph
facts
flint imp
Dh I can barely hear at all
ionic nymph
the dh has creepy whispering from a certain distance
mighty root
I wonder how good frag box will be after the update
ionic nymph
lets hope its still good
they took away my rock already
its still decent
but not as good as it was
hard nexus
what
open bramble
y take rock when u can take nuclear bomb?
ionic nymph
rock could stun lock monsties
sullen forge
I wonder how good frag box will be after the update
Stun storm but it does damage
ionic nymph
and did a lot of dmg vs crushers
sullen forge
or
ionic nymph
pre nerf
ionic nymph
also rock still
one shots muties
and can be used to snipe stuff from a distance and comes back over time
i killed a reaper and tox bomber with 1 rock earlier
it jsut doess less dmg vs carp and monsters now
sterile basalt
up to you how you want to use it
With the potential deal I’ll be getting, I might finally be able to play above 6fps when an ogryn box goes off
sullen forge
With the potential deal I’ll be getting, I might finally be able to play above 6...
You actually buying it?
sterile basalt
You actually buying it?
Yea I mean
4070ti super
14700f
48gb ram
2tb ssd
Even if I get tariff for some reason (cuz it’s just friend gifting to friend), it would still be cheaper than buying it here in Canada
sullen forge
way better than my rig
sterile basalt
I’d have to be fucked in the head to not take this deal
Especially when 50-series launch is borked and 4070ti super being literally out of stock on Amazon rn
sterile basalt
I’m waiting for him to run performance benchmarks
Then he’ll send to me, if all goes well
sterile basalt
70 to like
What’s ur GPU
sullen forge
3060
I never really massively cared for Graphics I cared more about can my frames not fucking tank
Hence I have an AMD CPU
sterile basalt
Oh
delicate shadow
well when your frames tank just do a 3060 and walk away
sullen forge
True
Anyways
its running every damn game I like fine
Im not a huge graphics nerd either
sterile basalt
It’s also an investment for me cuz I’m pretty sure
sullen forge
so im pretty happy
sterile basalt
Those specs can even run doom the dark ages
And that’s the only new game coming out that I think I’ll actually want to play
sullen forge
Look i'll be honest
hard nexus
lemme be clear
sullen forge
I do not see the appeal in constantly increasing graphics
delicate shadow
I'm on a 3080 and it runs everything I want it to run at decent enough settings and 90fps
hard nexus
and dark ages seems to be taking the same path
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-be-clear-uhhh-meme-gif-25693361
what if I held you like that huh
what would you do
sterile basalt
Big mech and dragon
delicate shadow
they got rid of glory kills????
hard nexus
they got rid of glory kills????
basically yes
delicate shadow
wtf
sterile basalt
they got rid of glory kills????
Not preset animation anymore
sullen forge
also no glory kills is
hard nexus
they got rid of glory kills????
now you just melee the enemy and they die and you get health or whatever
no animation
merry flume
what if I held you like that huh
😳
delicate shadow
now you just melee the enemy and they die and you get health or whatever
that is
terrible
hard nexus
yeah
sterile basalt
With that said, 14700f is still way better my current cpu lol
delicate shadow
absolutely
delicate shadow
I always get the munchies at like 11pm
sterile basalt
should i order fries
And nuggets
hard nexus
no
merry flume
you should order mud and sand
hard nexus
i dont want mcdonalds nuggest
hard nexus
you should order mud and sand
i should shove ur face in the mud and sand
sterile basalt
Oh u meant McDonald’s
hard nexus
stinker
hard nexus
Oh u meant McDonald’s
yah its the closest fast food
delicate shadow
cheeky maccas run!
sterile basalt
Well
hard nexus
its like
merry flume
i should shove ur face in the mud and sand
sterile basalt
Idk what’s the difference between Canadian and US McDonald’s
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-mud-roll-rolling-happy-gif-4871997
i feel like u would be an alligator
but like
youd be
sullen forge
you should order mud and sand
delicate shadow
US mcdonalds doesn't get the glorious Canadian angus beef
sullen forge
That you Vic?
hard nexus
this would be the gator u are
merry flume
us mcdonalds had angus burgers for like 6 months almost 10 years ago
hard nexus
MEEE
sullen forge
@hard nexus YOU'RE THIS
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378> YOU'RE THIS
hard nexus
the nefarious, no good, corrupted white blood cell
sullen forge
the nefarious no good corrupted white blood cell attacking Gale's immune system
hard nexus
true
sullen forge
merry flume
sullen forge
if i had wolps inside me
🤨
hard nexus
thats
delicate shadow
us mcdonalds had angus burgers for like 6 months almost 10 years ago
in Canada and Australia they're just the standard burger lol
hard nexus
NOT WHAT I MEAAANTTT
PLEASEEEE
RELEASE MEEEEEEEE
should i actually go 2 the mcdonalds
hard nexus
its like
sullen forge
Bro if I want it
hard nexus
7 minute bike ride because i dont feel like driving
sullen forge
im ordering it to my house
merry flume
in Canada and Australia they're just the standard burger lol
mcdonalds is just an express way to cold sweats on the toilet for me, i don't eat there often
sullen forge
I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE
hard nexus
but ordering is expensive
thats like
an extra 15 dollars
and all im getting is fries and a frozen coke
hard nexus
sigh.
sullen forge
its Daylights
hard nexus
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
delicate shadow
mates and I would legit do like midnight or early morning maccas runs after a night out
shit was peak
hard nexus
sssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
everypony HAAAATE me
sterile basalt
Go get like Korean BBQ chicken or smth I don’t get wanting McDonald’s at 12:30
sullen forge
mates and I would legit do like midnight or early morning maccas runs after a ni...
Yeah and you know what mine did? we took firework mortars and detonated them in the middle of a park
yes
the police came
sullen forge
we took Firework mortars
sullen forge
stuck them to wood and threw them like grenades
hard nexus
vic is my #1 hater
hard nexus
what does boomerang react even mean!
hard nexus
fart sound !
delicate shadow
like you'd go out to the local lookout, partake in 100% legal medicinal herbs from a makeshift device made from a gatorade bottle, some aluminium from a coke can and a piece of hose pipe
sullen forge
peak!!!!
hard nexus
@copper hawk
sullen forge
PEAK!!!!
delicate shadow
and then go to maccas when the munchies hit
fringe bay
sullen forge
@merry flume
merry flume
?
merry flume
poop
merry flume
if you hate emoji reactions you literally hate whimsy and joy and that prob means you like boring stuff like waifus and pantera
sullen forge
if you hate emoji reactions you literally hate whimsy and joy and that prob mean...
grrrrr
hard nexus
don't make fun.....of my chud music .....
merry flume
lmao hungry ass
hard nexus
25 whole fucking dollars
wehhh
sullen forge
actually feeling like this after seeing 2 large fries and a drink cost a family meal
merry flume
@hard nexus
delicate shadow
it’s 25 dollars
sullen forge
<@265332960792805378>
sterile basalt
for 2 large fries
Might as well get poutine then
If McDonald’s in US have them
merry flume
nobody eats poutine in the us
delicate shadow
poutine slaps, y'all missing out
merry flume
poutine works better with mashed potato
sullen forge
welcome to US
delicate shadow
it works better with mashed aligator
sullen forge
I think you offended vic...
merry flume
i mean anything's better than a baked potato with beans and tuna
delicate shadow
I mean if aligator tastes at all like crocodile, it's good eating
sullen forge
i mean anything's better than a baked potato with beans and tuna
American Cuisine
delicate shadow
I'd rather just have a tuna melt
hard nexus
actually feeling like this after seeing 2 large fries and a drink cost a family ...
uber eats moment
getting it there would be like
12 dollars
less if i used my points
merry flume
green onion and tuna is a diabolical combo
hard nexus
admitting i have a mcdonald’s reward account makes me look like a fatass doesn’t it
IM JUST BEING SMART WITH MY MONEY PLEASSEEEE
merry flume
i literally have every single fast food app on my phojne
hard nexus
sullen forge
I have this stupid fucking chud lizard sitting on my keyboard right now
(they are awesome pets)
hard nexus
i literally have every single fast food app on my phojne
i only have mcdonald’s and chick fil a because it’s the only fast food i like
hard nexus
I have this stupid fucking chud lizard sitting on my keyboard right now
fucking chudlord
delicate shadow
green onion, tuna, mayo and cheese with pepper is a good tuna melt right there
sullen forge
this thread needs a hero!
hard nexus
guys
merry flume
delicate shadow
not a wolp
sullen forge
Wallahi you're finished
hard nexus
hard nexus
haihai :/
sullen forge
nevermind
hard nexus
lmfao
spiral hare
brb guys gotta go around this huge space station for my wife
spiral hare
don’t know why my coworkers are trying to eat me but all good
sullen forge
you'd think they'd catch the hint after 4 days
hard nexus
he just DMd me for evis advice
and then started calling me
“evis mistress”
which i didn’t really care
it was funny in an absurd way
sullen forge
“evis mistress”
spiral hare
I know there are like
spiral hare
some insane people here but that’s ABSURD
hard nexus
“don laf at mi!!”
sullen forge
coming from experience
delicate shadow
coming from experience
I mean we've seen it happen in this chat
hard nexus
I mean we've seen it happen in this chat
and the guy that called it out got perma banned
hmm
spiral hare
I mean we've seen it happen in this chat
What was the craziest if I may ask?
sullen forge
I mean we've seen it happen in this chat
get randomly DM'd blatant flirting that I just dont fucking respond too
hard nexus
get randomly DM'd blatant flirting that I just dont fucking respond too
i want you.
sullen forge
LMAO
sullen forge
hard nexus
the term “enter” in reference to sex is
just
so fucking funny
sharquino is typing
delicate shadow
and the guy that called it out got perma banned
yeah because he'd already been warned for witch hunting 
hard nexus
merry flume
fringe bay
The concept of getting what is the equivalent of cat called on discord is hilarious
spiral hare
“ENTER ME” as if it’s a wizard and I’m readying for their whimsical dungeon
delicate shadow
press any key to enter
fringe bay
Gross
spiral hare
ngl getting called daddy at all is kinda ehhhh…
hard nexus
yeah because he'd already been warned for witch hunting <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883...
we have had this discussion before but i just thought it’d be funny 2 tease
hexed igloo
Getting called "Daddy" by people you haven't even met is just... eughh...
Getting spoken to by people you haven't met is eugh
hard nexus
fringe bay
I think it’s gross period, but still
spiral hare
unless the situation is perfectly built for the bit
sullen forge
Getting spoken to by people you haven't met is eugh
🗣️
hard nexus
my pussy is whimsical
delicate shadow
we have had this discussion before but i just thought it’d be funny 2 tease
ikik it's all g
sullen forge
Another one to the "worst things meow has typed" list
hexed igloo
my pussy is whimsical
I bet it smells like the exhaust of an overheating ps4 bro
spiral hare
there are teeth
think that’s extra points brah
fringe bay
Another one to the "worst things meow has typed" list
Can I see this list
hard nexus
think that’s extra points brah
then boy do i have the movie for you
spiral hare
ah man…
hard nexus
Can I see this list
frog used to have it but he lost it
spiral hare
of course that’s an actual movie
hard nexus
girl gets teeth in her vagina
merry flume
hard nexus
uses it to get revenge on her exes
fringe bay
What a quality film suggestion
sullen forge
fringe bay
Yeah I know
hard nexus
delicate shadow
hard nexus
i need to make this a sticker
spiral hare
what if you go to a girls house and you just find the dvd for TUSK on one of her shelves
(she’s the one maybe)
sullen forge
me in a month
light badge
what the actual fuck is the director cooking
this was standard damnation
no modifier
sullen forge
Director actually working for once?
hard nexus
Can I see this list
but basically there was stuff like me saying “my girlstink is amazing”
uhhm
idk
hard nexus
i don’t remember any others
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stink-bad-breath-stank-face-smelly-gif-16392254
LMAO
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stink-bad-breath-stank-face-smelly-gif-16392254
insert that one picture of ogryn breathing in corruption
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Director actually working for once?
200+ elites on standard damnation is normal??
fringe bay
but basically there was stuff like me saying “my girlstink is amazing”
So a compilation of you being freakery
sterile basalt
200+ elites on standard damnation is normal??
Yea?
sterile basalt
200 is on the higher end? But it’s not impossible
Auric doesn’t spawn that many either tbh
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it just felt like room after room of gunners
like jfc, I have never been more happy to be using brain burst
hard nexus
So a compilation of you being freakery
yeah but it’s funny
fringe bay
Okay
merry flume
sullen forge
Should get my numbers up
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this was the build btw, lmfao
delicate shadow
I'm still sitting at like 500 hours in DT
hard nexus
this was the build btw, lmfao
hard nexus
this was the build btw, lmfao
ranged weakspot on trauma that can’t even weakspot on secondary fire
blazing spirit with no nexus
weakspot damage in general
unlucky for some
lmfao
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ranged weakspot on trauma that can’t even weakspot on secondary fire
the 10% weakspot damage adds onto Kinetic Flayer
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i feel like i just got brain bursted looking at it
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that is my literal only justification for using it
hard nexus
the 10% weakspot damage adds onto Kinetic Flayer
an extra 100 damage or so
instead of 250 to an armor type with KF
spare talon
I'm still sitting at like 500 hours in DT
BUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP
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consider the following
spare talon
GET TO GAMING INCAN
delicate shadow
BUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP
look, I've already got over 6k hours in VT2
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DD on vb 
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(note, I am not arguing this is good. I am arguing it's funny)
hard nexus
consider the following
you’d still get more damage with an armor type
gray compass
it's definitely funny
delicate shadow
you should put crit damage and crit chance
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BB can't crit
delicate shadow
well not with that attitude
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your 500 hours are showing
delicate shadow
idk I think my 500 hours are serving me well in regards to making shit builds
grizzled aspen
@sterile basalt how much hp damage does a crusher overhead do?
sterile basalt
<@366562874039992331> how much hp damage does a crusher overhead do?
416
grizzled aspen
Fucking hell.
sterile basalt
Well, no
It doesn’t bypass toughness
It deals full damage if it breaks toughness
fringe bay
Ye
sterile basalt
And it deals 832 toughness damage
spare talon
like snipers and bursters do
grizzled aspen
Bypasses toughness also
Full damage and they do double damage to toughness.
Broken toughness = full damage taken = 416 damage taken.
fringe bay
Basically if it hits you, you’re boned
sullen forge
actual truth nuke anvil being dropped on you
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@hard nexus unyielding has been put on it
delicate shadow
the real solution is to just not get hit by the highly telegraphed and extremely easy to dodge attacks
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~140% damage boosted BB goes brrrrrrrrrr
grizzled aspen
Lumii is trying to see if any class (that isnt ogryn) can eat one by sacrificing toughness curios to take hp instead.
sterile basalt
Lumii is trying to see if any class (that isnt ogryn) can eat one by sacrificing...
Yes
Zealot
Bleed for the emperor
grizzled aspen
Other than until death.
OH RIGHT
Bleed for the emperor is 40% reduction per wound, so you'd need like, full martyrdom to do it, no?
sullen forge
Lumii is trying to see if any class (that isnt ogryn) can eat one by sacrificing...
Veteran with Iron Will and Toughness Iirc
sterile basalt
Veteran with Iron Will and Toughness Iirc
No chance
You’re not getting 832 effective toughness lol
sullen forge
there was a certain fucking combo that let you eat an overhead without downing
grizzled aspen
Veteran with Iron Will and Toughness Iirc
83% tdr (iron will and the tdr node at the top) with 200 or so toughness isn't even enough.
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there was a certain fucking combo that let you eat an overhead without downing
besides piss?
sterile basalt
Well
You need every TDR on veteran
Which included infiltrate
So it’s not that good
Plus full coherency with close order drill
Just not worth it
grizzled aspen
So, for practical purposes, no, human classes cannot eat overheads without gold toughness or until death.
grizzled aspen
Ogryn would have to take 2 hp curios to pull it off.
sullen forge
whilst everyone else is Down immediately
delicate shadow
idk why you'd build around tanking an overhead tho
sullen forge
when you can dodge it lmao
grizzled aspen
idk why you'd build around tanking an overhead tho
Lumii is just trying to see how much toughness you can actually shave off without losing practicality.
sterile basalt
Lumii is just trying to see how much toughness you can actually shave off withou...
Tell lumi to stop trying
delicate shadow
I mean yea DT's dodges are cracked af and building to eat 1 overhead is inefficient af even if it were reasonably doable
grizzled aspen
Tell lumi to stop trying
That's what I told him but you know how he is. 🚬
delicate shadow
it's kinda impractical as a premise lol
grizzled aspen
I mean yea DT's dodges are cracked af and building to eat 1 overhead is ineffici...
Tell that to deadvoid in psyker chat, dude wants to be able to block overheads on human classes if you, quote, "build into it."
sullen forge
DC parry
delicate shadow
sullen forge
thats literally the only way
no
Mauler/Crusher overheads
exist
to punish not moving
spare talon
thats literally the only way
at the moment
tame sluice
I only barely tolerate the devils claw being able to do it because of just how shit it is at most everything else
spare talon
at the moment
grizzled aspen
Ok @sterile basalt what about mauler overhead?
fringe bay
I only barely tolerate the devils claw being able to do it because of just how s...
Devil’s claw buff time
sullen forge
# ***at the moment***
yeah true
grizzled aspen
Like what damage does it deal?
delicate shadow
overheads are really only punishing if you like, are being stupid or not paying attention to shit behind you
spare talon
overheads are really only punishing if you like, are being stupid or not paying ...
or a mauler is hiding behind 4 FUCKING BULWARKS AND OVERHEADS ANYWAY
WHEN YOU LITERALLY CANNOT SEE HIM
tame sluice
overheads are really only punishing if you like, are being stupid or not paying ...
or a crusher decides it'd be really cool if he walked through you while aggroed on someone else
and gets you stuck inside him
delicate shadow
do NOT get inside the mauler
tame sluice
You have little choice in the matter
delicate shadow
but like seriously outside relatively niche scenarios you're really not gonna eat an overhead if you're actually playing the game because of how insanely forgiving DT's dodges are
royal vortex
do NOT get inside the mauler <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
i was told there's a puppy in there. not my fault
sullen forge
That ends up killing you
delicate shadow
kinda like how you really shouldn't be dying to ragers unless you literally can't move and they're just dogpiling you
tame sluice
or lag makes it so that their attacks straight up ignore your dodges because you got clipped once by their instant lunge attack
sullen forge
The bruiser making damn sure my stamina vanishes the moment a rager pack is piling me
tame sluice
happens with dreg ragers a lot, scab ragers not so much
delicate shadow
I mean, that's lag tho innit, that can fuck you up on anything
spare talon
We call that getting Darktided
i love being darktided as melee psyker, where being darktided is instant death
every enemy aggroes to people behind you, you physically cant move, then they aggro onto you and get fucking imploded
tame sluice
or you do a push attack and that very instant a bulwark does their shield bash for no reason
sullen forge
i love being darktided as melee psyker, where being darktided is instant death
e...
I love that also
Getting Darktided by a crusher pack focusing the psyker
delicate shadow
https://www.twitch.tv/incandescent_au/clip/ArborealCrazyCakeKreygasm?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time sometimes lag makes things weird
sullen forge
Then they all swap agro on you
sterile basalt
That ends up killing you
2 tox bombers and a trapper
sullen forge
2 tox bombers and a trapper <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
And a burster
tame sluice
I have also had instances of being darktided where the game spawns 4 tox bombers at the same time
on tiny ass areas like ascension risers train segments
sullen forge
Full HP to death instantly
zinc talon
delicate shadow
And a burster
yea I think pretty much all my wipes are due to getting clapped by special shenanigans lmao
tame sluice
especially pox hounds and tox bombers in my experience
delicate shadow
burster moment
tame sluice
never actually getting hit by the pox hound
but the amount of times I have died to that stupid fucking pushbox they have when they jump at somebody else
zinc talon
yknow nowadays I appreciate the absolutely perfect comedic timing of everything
tame sluice
it's undodgable, instant, stuns you, and will also throw poxbursters at you
why does it even exist in the first place?
zinc talon
the typing
the way the last one juked me with changing doors
the last line that the video cut off
that day I had to replace a keyboard
delicate shadow
the pox hound pushbox shoving bursters into you is definitely one of those moments where the game just wants you to eat explosions
sullen forge
the pox hound pushbox shoving bursters into you is definitely one of those momen...
Pox hound push box shoving me into a 5 gunner barrage instantly downing me
Fuck sake please scale down the stagger
delicate shadow
the pushbox is unironically more threatening than the pounce itself lmao
it's pretty silly and also just kinda doesn't make any sense
sullen forge
It wouldn’t be a huge deal if it was small amounts of stagger
But no my ass sitting behind cover
Gets pushed right out into the open
sullen forge
Killing the hound immediately
grizzled aspen
I have a clip where I was about to dodge a sniper, then got hit by the pushbox when a dog jumped at someone else, thrown into the air, and instantly got sniped out of the air and died.
grizzled aspen
Fatshark NEEDS to remove that pushbox.
sullen forge
They need to scale the stagger back imo
zinc talon
^the phrasing police pulling up on you for that one
grizzled aspen
And they need to fix dogs jumping through fucking solid objects.
grizzled aspen
The amount of times I have seen a dog jump directly through a stack of boxes is uncountable.
delicate shadow
getting netted through geometry is always a big lmao too
grizzled aspen
Dont get me started on trappers fucking prefiring you.
zinc talon
And they need to fix dogs jumping through fucking solid objects.
the 'jump over boxes' thing they do for quickly going over light cover has the same height from the start to the finish
so if they do that and the ground they're going to gets higher
sullen forge
getting netted through geometry is always a big lmao too
My combo for that is
Alt F4
Lay in bed
zinc talon
they quantum jump through the terrain til they move far enough they snap back to the map above em
sullen forge
Sleep
zinc talon
free flight of stairs climbed
delicate shadow
like DT's specials are definitely the most threatening aspect of the game but so much of that is down to fuckin' janky ass interactions
sullen forge
Cause that’s enough Darktide for today when I get trapped through solid objects
tame sluice
like DT's specials are definitely the most threatening aspect of the game but so...
trapper net just being part of the attack animation andn ot being a real projectile
so it can infact go through walls and defy logic
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new favorite thing
zinc talon
like DT's specials are definitely the most threatening aspect of the game but so...
and the fact it's one slipup and it's joever
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killing myself at evac while spamming the grenade voiceline
zinc talon
but it's always amusing hearing people's totem pole of what's the abolute most important enemy to immediately swap to and pay full attention as soon as you see or hear em
spare talon
like DT's specials are definitely the most threatening aspect of the game but so...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE DOG KNOCKBACK
tame sluice
poxbursters having an increased hitbox for being pushed when they're targeting you
zinc talon
for me it's trappers always and forever
tame sluice
but then they just target your clueless teammate that has glued themselves to you instead
zinc talon
other people it will onlly and forever be dogs
tame sluice
so you can't push them at all
delicate shadow
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE DOG KNOCKBACK
I'm pretty sure we've been requesting this for like, forever now
sullen forge
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE DOG KNOCKBACK
I’m ngl I thought you’d think it’d not be an issue
delicate shadow
surely it'll happen any day now
sullen forge
Glad to know we BOTH FUCKING HATE THEIR PUSHBOXES
spare talon
I’m ngl I thought you’d think it’d not be an issue
i cant stand it
delicate shadow
I don't know of anyone who thinks they're a good thing
sullen forge
I’ve died more to
spare talon
cuz more often than not it gets me killed and there was no way to prevent it
cuz the dog wasnt on me
delicate shadow
and frankly anyone arguing in favour of the weird pushbox jank is just being contrarian lol
grizzled aspen
They need to remove the cspawn force field too.
The amount of times I've been fucking pushed off the map by that is insane.
spare talon
like im positioned where i am because its where i will stay alive
then a dog thats not even focused on me just throws me out of it for literally just existing
delicate shadow
cspawn grab also has a kinda wonky hitbox still. It's not the end of the world but it's defo wonky
tame sluice
it has as traight dogshit hitbox
the only way to avoid it consistently is to dodge in the only direction that it doesn't make sense to dodge into
sullen forge
cspawn grab also has a kinda wonky hitbox still. It's not the end of the world b...
It’s not terrible it’s just incredibly huge it’s a swipe
tame sluice
it can literally hit you behind them
tame sluice
its hitbox is genuinely a full ass circle like 10 meters out from the chaos spawn everywhere except for where they're actually grabbing
sullen forge
till it does cause of Desync
tame sluice
it's unintuitive garbage
sullen forge
I personally don’t mind it mainly cause it does have that “move to the right safe zone”
It’s just again
If you lag at all
Your ass is getting grabbed
delicate shadow
yea like I said it's not the end of the world, but there is some jank there
tame sluice
I do mind it because darktides maps are narrow shitty corridors 99% of the time, and frequently dodging to the right isn't an option
so you just get hit
zinc talon
sullen forge
And pray to god your team agros it into swinging you around
grizzled aspen
If you lag at all
Or if you're on stairs. Or if you're in a corner where you can't dodge right. Or if the day ends in y.
sullen forge
Cause if not it’s giving you like 40% corruption and healing a good chunk of its HP back
delicate shadow
I'm kinda hoping they do a pass on monstrosities at some point so they can fix jank and also make BoN and Plogryn actually interesting
tame sluice
I like burgle it's just super location dependent
spare talon
I'm kinda hoping they do a pass on monstrosities at some point so they can fix j...
they can make beast of nurgle interesting by removing it from the game 
grizzled aspen
I'm kinda hoping they do a pass on monstrosities at some point so they can fix j...
I think if they do that, they need to also make corruption threatening.
sullen forge
I find it incredibly hilarious how lopsided BON interactions are
tame sluice
it either does absolutely nothing, or is almost a guaranteed teamwipe
delicate shadow
they can make beast of nurgle interesting by removing it from the game <:smile:8...
that's definitely a good solution lmao
tame sluice
it's also very difficult to solo
grizzled aspen
Corruption, outside of havocs, basically is a big nothing mechanic.
sullen forge
Is it 1? Literally easiest boss to kill
spare talon
that's definitely a good solution lmao
see this is why you kidnapped me
i can only have the best of ideas
sullen forge
2+ BONs?
tame sluice
well difficult to solo quickly
median steeple
do you think you could cook one
grizzled aspen
2+ BONs?
The last 2 3veg matches I've played have been 2 weakened and 1 full burgle at the same time while I'm trying to clutch.
median steeple
god iM so hungry
sullen forge
do you think you could cook one
It’s rotten
delicate shadow
I think if they do that, they need to also make corruption threatening.
beacon of purity stocks on the rise
sullen forge
Like all of it is rotten
median steeple
wallahi
delicate shadow
I mean you physically could, but you shouldn't
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Question, since I don't think I'm gonna be able to refer to docs for this one
median steeple
you can eat daemons actually
grizzled aspen
I don’t think you can physically eat a Beast of Nurgle
Technically it's possessed flesh iirc.
Anything possessed, you could eat.
median steeple
there's a scene in a book where a CM eats a small one iirc
spare talon
beacon of purity stocks on the rise
speaking of
beacon
doesnt synergize with chorus
which doesnt synergize with martyrdom
which doesnt synergize with beacon
it is hilarious how fucked up the center is
sullen forge
I mean you physically could, but you shouldn't
What the VIth went through on Nox Alpha
Immediately happening
grizzled aspen
If daemonhosts didn't get ripped into a different dimension when they die, they could be eaten.
sullen forge
Aka your chest suddenly bursting opening from maggots
delicate shadow
speaking of
beacon
doesnt synergize with chorus
which doesnt synergize with mart...
ik it's crazy how the middle tree is meta given how it's all anti-synergy
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In the event that Kinetic Flayer procs on a Crusher at the exact same time as it's applied a brittleness debuff (from the same attack), which hits first?
Specifically, trauma or flayer?
median steeple
If daemonhosts didn't get ripped into a different dimension when they die, they ...
you don't even need a possessed you can just eat daemons
zinc talon
If you lag at all
grizzled aspen
speaking of
beacon
doesnt synergize with chorus
which doesnt synergize with mart...
I think the middle was intended to use chorus to push into enemies or shoot while approaching and then have martyrdom go to town in melee.
Like that was the intended play style.
But it just doesn't work for darktide at all.