zealot-class

[drifting hinge]

and our Aura turned from trash to GOLD - +15% Toughness gain for /all sources of toughness/ for entire team 😄

[acoustic dune]

dodge sideway
stagger the enemy on that side

[frosty herald]

We all know that ogryn players arent going to utilize the tree the best

[frozen kernel]

GLORIOUS

[frosty herald]

Just unga bunga

[sullen forge]

It'll work as well

[obsidian prairie]

It’s going to be 2 ogryn per lobby minimum on the 25th

[sullen forge]

Actual Ogryn mains will make the class beyond busted LMAO

[acoustic dune]

3 minimum

[storm pagoda]

ogryn already had a strong tree before now itll be stronger I guess

[drifting hinge]

March 25:

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[sullen forge]

@drifting hinge It makes me feel weird knowing you guys have Deadshot without the crit LMAO

[carmine falcon]

imagine someone like hamdul working with this....

[drifting hinge]

I also love that talent that let us /charge a heavy while sprinting/ without movement penalties 😄

[misty nova]

Only strong tree if you're not Gunlugger

[obsidian prairie]

Going to make a weapon spec kickback build, ultra tanking with shield build, and violence with karsolas or something build

[misty nova]

💀

[sullen forge]

WS Bullbutcher build

[frosty herald]

Hamdol could already stomp on havoc 40

[frozen kernel]

Yam I had to watch a friend use DB and forget demon mode for an entire hunt

[carmine falcon]

he carried my ass

[frozen kernel]

The bar is floating down the River Styx

[frosty herald]

What the fuck

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah it was probably going to be knife/kickback to mimic my vet

[drifting hinge]

Ham is happy for the new Ogg 😄

[sullen forge]

Shovel actually

[frozen kernel]

It’s no just low

[sullen forge]

Shovel with like

[grizzled aspen]

It's literally made for heavy stubber.

[frosty herald]

Not sure

[frozen kernel]

The bar is subterranean

[sullen forge]

Strike True might be insanely fucking busted

cause of Brutal Momentum

[frosty herald]

Hamdol was one of the people that didnt want powercreep if im remembering

[obsidian prairie]

Oh fuck I read strike true wrong

It’s power??????

[drifting hinge]

Yes.

But also.

[misty nova]

Even more cleave raaaauuugh

[drifting hinge]

It's a 'new stat'.

[sullen forge]

@obsidian prairie

[carmine falcon]

when i was chatting with him in vc during the game he said he only plays havoc 40 cause its the only thing that gives him any challenge so yeah

[obsidian prairie]

I thought it was mid

Nope

[sullen forge]

Weakspot power

[obsidian prairie]

Busted

Should’ve known

[drifting hinge]

That means the % bonus doesn't apply just for the Weakspot dmg portion.

But entire dmg 🙂

[sullen forge]

25% with BM

LMAO

[drifting hinge]

As long as you hit a weakspot.

[grizzled aspen]

Kerfus, how do you feel now that wrathsolas ogryn will soon be able to cut the planet in half?

[misty nova]

I'm about to have 125+ cleave on my cleaver

[drifting hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-pop-art-the-feels-meme-gif-11334684

[obsidian prairie]

Wrathsolas doesn’t even need to run wrath

[carmine falcon]

the friend i was complaining about earlier said these buffs are made by low skill testers who want to get carried with 0 effort and he's salty af rn 💀

[obsidian prairie]

Guh

[sullen forge]

I'll admit its exciting but it does seriously need a day or 2 in the oven to see how impactful they are

cause if its like

[drifting hinge]

Excuse me I soloed H41 with this pencil.

[sullen forge]

Staff Macro levels of shutting down servers

then yeah tweaking is needed

Im simply a "we shall wait and see"

[carmine falcon]

for me this feels like i can be gunner from DRG with the gunns and booms so HELL YEEAAHHHH BABBYYYYY but i yeah i totally get powercreep concerns

[obsidian prairie]

Oh my gods the buff dueling sword lobotomite is back in general

[frosty herald]

Theres already stuff being tweaked

[plush estuary]

in havoc you want wrath

[obsidian prairie]

I know I was being hyperbolic

But also like

[sullen forge]

3 Curios, all with Corruption Res

[grizzled aspen]

Karsolas just got better in havoc because hh has your cleave covered with great cleaver.

[sullen forge]

BON food

[obsidian prairie]

370% cleave feels like much

[fleet zealot]

i'm scared about zealot rework

[spare talon]

Cuz I've been asleep

[sterile stone]

I knew it

[fleet zealot]

i'm going to have to actually think about my build

[frosty herald]

Oopsie

[fleet zealot]

i'm going to have to make legit builds on gamelanterns and not just memes

[grizzled aspen]

We already are the Emperor's wrath made manifest, rework will make it moreso.

[frosty herald]

I saw you were away so i didnt think you were asleep

[misty nova]

Hi Cole

[acoustic dune]

i would be extremely happy

it wouldnt be the same for one

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-andrew-gif-3091015989928111603

[placid fiber]

So, how do you feel about our new ogryn overlords?

[frozen kernel]

I’m waiting for the inevitable sigh from my vet buddies because all they got was buffed bayonet, and only one of them appreciates Ogryn

[obsidian prairie]

They also got power sword buffed

[grizzled aspen]

Your vet buddies can eat trash smh.

[modern lintel]

rumbler build mayne

[carmine falcon]

good day to be a FUN HAVER

[grizzled aspen]

Ogryn gonna be so fuckin good with this update, how can you possibly complain "erm we didn't get anything."

[spare talon]

People can finally SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW THE DEVS/PLAYTESTERS HATE OGRYN

[sullen forge]

now we can say they HATE ZEALOT

[sterile stone]

Bro doesn't sleep

[obsidian prairie]

Can’t wait to see how Mr.e/tanner try to spin this

[sterile stone]

He just grinds havoc while asleep

[frosty herald]

Ds wasnt nerfed shotguns werent buffed etc etc

[grizzled aspen]

They won't mention ds because they crutch on it.

[obsidian prairie]

Oh yeah right god is dead I forgot

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pewpewpewpew-ahmed-mohsin-أحمد-محسن-hedgehog-dancing-meme-gif-2754780489075620554

[frosty herald]

Dueling sword is a hotspot

[sullen forge]

I will straight up eat a shoe if Veteran gets a tree rework before Zealot does

I am so confident Zealot is next

[frosty herald]

Everyone knows it should be nerfed

[sullen forge]

I am willing to do that

[frosty herald]

But not how

[placid fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1152255403174928414/1139651508892352533.gif

[modern lintel]

the knives got sub optimal buffs u hate him..

[frozen kernel]

Absolutely fucking gut the straight damage of M1 spam, but give it Leo ring counters

Hear me out

[placid fiber]

I find it funny they buffed how throwing more than 1 rock in a row will feel

[frosty herald]

Cole think for 1 second

Why did power maul not get buffed

[frozen kernel]

Actually incentivize using the counter poke at the right moment rather than all the time

[frosty herald]

Why did knife get minimal buffs?

[placid fiber]

I was already riding the rock train, and they just gave me 1st class seating on that ride

[frozen kernel]

Knife getting buffs at all is lol

[modern lintel]

theyre adding ogryn power knives

[spare talon]

The cleavers literally had to be toned back because they initially were too OP

[frosty herald]

Its because those 2 weapons are going to be boosted through the talent tree

[spare talon]

I still use the mk4 in havoc

[frozen kernel]

CLEAVER PUNCH BUFF THO

HYPE

[spare talon]

Killing a mutant to the face in 2 punches

[modern lintel]

i didnt read to much into what changed on clubs but hope theyre good

[frozen kernel]

Die other mutant

[placid fiber]

That or even after all this time they're afraid of the backlash, after the power sword one

[obsidian prairie]

What a fucking world

Amazing

[modern lintel]

can it stun them out of their charge or nah

[frozen kernel]

Is a good Friday

Time for monhun

[grizzled aspen]

No I was meaning that content creators won't touch on it because they need it to survive.

[spare talon]

I dont recall if it did or not

[placid fiber]

Ohhh, yeah probably

[frosty herald]

Cole 1 quick question

[full nebula]

No ds4/taxe changes

[frozen kernel]

Gotta keep my HR higher than the unemployeds as a flex

[grizzled aspen]

Fatshark can absolutely delete ds from the game entirely and I doubt most of the playerbase would give even a hint of a shit after this update.

[modern lintel]

would be funny to be able to throat punch muties mid charge

[misty nova]

(Paul got buffed a while ago)

[frosty herald]

How do incendiary stacks on explosions affect grenade gauntlet?

Does it work on the special

[spare talon]

Yes

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[spare talon]

Cuz it's an explosion

[placid fiber]

me probably

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/powerplex-invincible-shapesmith-power-gif-3315020999603052398

[stone fern]

like i said

give deimos a looping heavy 2 and delete ds

[frosty herald]

Im finally able to main grenade gauntlet

[modern lintel]

cant wait 4 rumbler throwing out mini flamming rending shredder nades for free w lucky bullet

[frosty herald]

And THANK YOU for making the special a strikedown alongside an l1 h2 hordeclear loop

[placid fiber]

did bro just try to block a point blank electric explosion? (not that he had any other choice)

[spare talon]

I will point out
That this is an early look
I've skimmed through it and there's plenty of changes that I dont see in there
So either it's not all of them, or they're slated for the next update

[frozen kernel]

@zinc talon Will you still be able to do the Crowd Pleaser with new gauntlet?

[sterile stone]

[frosty herald]

Not enough time like paul

[grizzled aspen]

Aren't lucky bullets also free?

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[frosty herald]

I expect a second devblog featering other changes

[sullen forge]

I am that fucking confident we're not getting a rework till dead last

[grizzled aspen]

So what I'm hearing is ogryn actually has infinite fucking ammo by using BLO as diet weapon spec.

[carmine falcon]

i do like that they're balancing the tree by giving u many good options and u have to actually choose what to have and what to leave out instead of filler talents

balancing through real choices

[modern lintel]

you also get a good few melee buffs for just shooting the rumbler and having it be empty

[misty nova]

I still believe that they won't buff Paul because it's intended to be a light/heavy hybrid

[sullen forge]

they also buffed cleavers so you're more mobile with them

[misty nova]

Except current tree doesn't support lights

[sterile stone]

I can vibe with it as is, get gud pleb

[placid fiber]

All you gotta do is: make a melee build with a kickback, go to that and get the melee kills give 10% higher chance(I think up to 100%), melee kill, profit

[sullen forge]

Lvl 1k vet. H40

🤫

🧏

[modern lintel]

door dashing groceries and my dasher tells me theyre completely out of every broth but vegetable this is diabolical

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/relaxing-bath-bubbles-cute-hedgehog-gif-9143277538358697877

[sullen forge]

I dont really mind we'd be getting it last

[sterile stone]

take el bath

[sullen forge]

Veteran is already in a good spot

[placid fiber]

Yep

[sullen forge]

its more so it needs QOL shuffling and MF to be reworked

[static sky]

Why are warhammer models sooo exspensive. I need Hounered of the chapter( specifically Judiciar) to finish my BT army. 160$ for the set or 90$ for just the single Judiciar

[sullen forge]

Hence, Zealot needs it more

[grizzled aspen]

I hope when the next patch (after ogryn update) drops we get vigilant maniac adm tuned up.

[ionic nymph]

Beautiful end to a mission one double barrel shotgun blast and 3 maulers died

[sterile stone]

We need auras reworked

[sullen forge]

Aura's are fine

[ionic nymph]

I agree there

[placid fiber]

It's like vet's ammo reload, but, instead you don't use the shot in your mag instead of reloading a bullet lol

[sterile stone]

Literally every vet only picks survivalist

What

That's not healthy

[sullen forge]

Cause they're bad and dont understand how good Fireteam and Close and Kill can be

[frosty herald]

I dont

[placid fiber]

I've had the 5% damage aura get me to a crusher 2 shot breakpoint(no crits) <.<

[sullen forge]

My current builds have been taking fireteam and close and kill lately

[frosty herald]

Survivalist is a noob trap

[sullen forge]

Survivalist is a QOL aura

thats about it

[modern lintel]

@grizzled aspen this is the build im thinking of for rumbler also luckly bullet gives cdr ontop of getting it from elites and i think specialist so youll be cranking out taunts like crazy

[sullen forge]

it just happens to shoe horn you into extreme point tax

[drifting hinge]

Is nice seeing shouties ponder the Ogg

[grizzled aspen]

I was thinking charge and then stay close for pathing to do a poke knife gg build.

[placid fiber]

I take survivalist to help with my bad aim on low ammo weapons, otherwise I take the middle aura for talent points or the right one for the 30% damage to the ranged/melee damage after a melee/ranged kill

[sterile stone]

It's rare to see a veteran taking improv

[frosty herald]

Those points are spent better elsewhere than 1 bullet lmao

[modern lintel]

cant get ammo boost/explosion dmg/ explosion fire dmg w charge sadly

[frosty herald]

Becausw theyre dumb for not taking field improv

[modern lintel]

id run charge w grenade gauntlet tho the way ur thinking

[frosty herald]

Already cooking up a grenade gauntlet build

[sterile stone]

@sterile basalt

[carmine falcon]

the testers in ogryn chat just said values are subject to change

oh no no no no

[sullen forge]

Yam has a point

you dont really take field improv outside of like Havoc

[modern lintel]

its so joever

[sterile stone]

I do

[grizzled aspen]

Oh are the explosion talents the ones on the outside?

[rough edge]

Darktides least freaky zealot

[sterile stone]

It's nice to give the chunky brick with a pickaxe another nuke

[modern lintel]

theyre the ones to the right under taunt

[frosty herald]

The sheer value field improv gives the entire team is insane

[modern lintel]

so you p much either have to do lugger or taunt if u want boom

[frosty herald]

And every player in the team benefits from it

[sterile stone]

But nooooo right

[frosty herald]

It could unironically save a havoc match

[sterile stone]

You only get to use field improv 4 times

[static sky]

Just remember that April 1st is not that far away from march 25. It could be an elaborate April fools day joke on Ogryns

[sterile stone]

You don't understaaaand bro

It's a limited talent brooo

[frozen kernel]

Taking a talent because it’s meta:

Taking a talent to literally offset your weaknesses:

[sullen forge]

You could just

[frosty herald]

It even works if your dead

[rough edge]

I fucking LOVE field improv!

[sullen forge]

not let your team die with VOC

lmao

[rough edge]

I love cleansing corruption and returning nades

RAAA

[grizzled aspen]

These two are the ones I'm referring to.

[modern lintel]

yes

[stone fern]

nah we take talents because theyre cool

[sterile stone]

You expect my teammates to not be brain dead

Really?

[sullen forge]

Again their fault

🚬

[grizzled aspen]

Well that stinks.

I guess I'll do lp then.

[frozen kernel]

laughing in psyker speed nodes

[grizzled aspen]

I still won't be doing coward culling though.

Stay close would be a way better aura.

[modern lintel]

whats coward culling do again

nevermind

i wonder if the bleed/ fire ticks will also get the 20% dmg boost from it tho

[lunar fable]

@frosty herald

[placid fiber]

I mean... you probably haven't seen me miss an entire mag of revolver rounds against 1 enemy, but, yeah it does tend to help

[frosty herald]

Peak

[frozen kernel]

Damn son this for Wilds already?

[lunar fable]

yea

[sullen forge]

Look they're learning the hard way

[sterile basalt]

What

[frozen kernel]

Goddamn job making me leave my house instead of playing monhun

[lunar fable]

just need 6 mini crowns

and i will finish mini as well

[modern lintel]

swim or sink world doesnt make you the lifeguard

[placid fiber]

You're the grenade overlord

[sterile basalt]

Since when??

[sullen forge]

Arguing over Field Improv value

[median steeple]

Yippie stuns are being addressed

[placid fiber]

since you told us about your twin nade addiction

[sterile basalt]

It’s good for penances
It’s usually not worth it otherwise

[sullen forge]

^^^

Thats why I dont take it

[frosty herald]

I think field improv gives so much value its dumb to not take it

[frozen kernel]

Path is twins with Nade? The truth may shock you…

[placid fiber]

It gives quality of life stuff

[sullen forge]

Its funny as hell they're getting Path confused with me

[frozen kernel]

I’m sorry, Path. Nobody deserved that

[placid fiber]

corruption removal to the next wound? Quality.
nades back as well as ammo? Quality

[sullen forge]

who literally always takes Twinned on a grenadier build

[fleet zealot]

you only need one field improv

if you pub you risk the chance of 2 vets having it

[sterile stone]

The odds of that shit happening is like 2/10

[placid fiber]

and when you don't take it: you get 3 ogryns with frag bombs that throw it any chance they get

[frozen kernel]

Field Improv? Nah son, Field Engineering

[fleet zealot]

at least 5/10

[sterile stone]

A whole week of playing zealot and psyker

And I met like maybe 3 or 4 people using field improv

[frozen kernel]

In auric pubs at least I never see it

It makes me shit myself whenever the health pack starts healing corruption

[sullen forge]

Cause players dont need to worry about it at that level

[frosty herald]

You heal corruption get increased toughness regen and full grenades

[placid fiber]

lets see... 3 players with 4 classes... and 1 out of 2 chances if they have that class... so 3 x 4 x 2... 24... so 3/24 chances of it happening

[frozen kernel]

Even in like, light havocs

[frosty herald]

Thats why field improv is so strong

[frozen kernel]

The babies don’t know

Like 25-30 there are vets like “nah bro I got this build online”

[sterile basalt]

It’s not quite that

[frozen kernel]

[placid fiber]

I think my # is 1/8th

[sterile basalt]

It’s more like

36% chance to increase your frags’ bleed DOT by x165.5% whenever you throw 2 frags

[placid fiber]

oh wait

you mean the twin nades

[violet hornet]

Did the ogryn rework devblog say when we can expect these changes?

[sterile basalt]

March 25th

[solar gorge]

25 march

[frozen kernel]

Prolly the update they’re coming with on the 25th

[violet hornet]

Thank you both!

[static sky]

It’s an elaborate April fools day joke

[solar gorge]

i hate you

[frozen kernel]

Entire chat delayed response lmao

[placid fiber]

think of the odds... 1st throw is an 80% of not happening... 2nd throw, based on odds, is 80% of 80%, etc etc

until it happens, then it resets the odds

[tropic garnet]

Bro throwing "ayo" like it's NY out there

[frozen kernel]

In the 41st millennia, it is all New York

[static sky]

Look what I learned to do!!!

[frozen kernel]

Have you seen the hive cities?

[static sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pika-gif-13469074065570030793

[frozen kernel]

Haytch Dee

[tropic garnet]

Got a point

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[sterile stone]

So it just basically goes

Skip any team support talents and hope to god you aren't the last guy alive.

[sterile basalt]

I do take born leader

Cuz it’s actually good

[sterile stone]

And if you are, hope you can keep the uptime on VOC going

[placid fiber]

even if you only used 5 nades, the chances of getting a 2nd nade by the 5th throw is this, based on odds: 67.232%

[static sky]

I almost paid for nitro to do the surprised pikachu face. Turns out it truly is an idiot tax like someone told me before.

[placid fiber]

if you didn't get any nades the 1st 4 throws

[sterile basalt]

Field improv is really the situation of “the more you think about it the worse it appears to be”

So I don’t think about it

[tropic garnet]

Why paying nitro for a single gif, when you can use every stickers and emojis

[static sky]

Exactly

[sterile stone]

🤌🏽

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/acrid-gif-22083252

[sterile basalt]

If it increased healing capacity by 2x then maybe it’ll be worth taking

[placid fiber]

Me when I finally get the item that makes the run, in an inferno run:

[frozen kernel]

Haha no transparency everyone point and laugh

[sterile stone]

We should bring back the things that made vet fun

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/point-and-laugh-schadenfreude-squid-game-hilarious-haha-gif-23450682

[tropic garnet]

Doing auric maelstroms all day are making normal missions (even damnation ones) feels different in a funny way

[sterile stone]

Like generating team wide grenades on a special/elite kill

[sterile basalt]

Nah

[sterile stone]

You know you're no fun

[placid fiber]

Someone playing kingdom come 2
No one:
The guy I'm watching: I wonder if you can grave rob in this game

[frosty herald]

Do you know how fucking dumb that would be with frag bomb

[tropic garnet]

For the lulz

[sterile stone]

THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/connor-dbhconnor-dbh-gif-22840950

[tropic garnet]

The sweet sound of all thos explosions

[placid fiber]

"For a {REDACTED BY ORDER OF EPIC_COLE}" lol

[placid fiber]

What? You never said who to point and laugh at

[static sky]

Don’t use the F word here… no one has friends on discord.

[stone fern]

dont tell me what i cant say friend

[static sky]

Some peoples kids… I tell ya

https://tenor.com/view/leatylrs-friends-gif-13221575065006942364

[tropic garnet]

It's so annoying when the in game chat doesn't work

It's there since the release

[stone fern]

🚬 mathew perry and matt leblanc were the only two people on there that arent assholes

oh yeah also pheobe

[static sky]

I can do technically technical technology techniques now.

[sterile basalt]

I’m writing a steam guide, ofc I’m no fun

[static sky]

Tequila

[sterile basalt]

[static sky]

The real question that remains to be answered for the 25th update…. Will Ogryns get pretty rocks????

[placid fiber]

Hmm... hrmm... using my detective skills... based on your name... hm... it's a psyker guide isn't it

[static sky]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-around-everything-everywhere-all-at-once-what-was-that-what-did-you-say-lionsgate-gif-25791637

[static sky]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-mlp-pinkie-gif-10102128

Haha got em

Issa pony with a detective hat for those that are not Sherlock’s or Watsons

[fleet zealot]

it's a network issue

[static sky]

Will you ever put them in macaroni??? I’ve been requesting it for a lifetime now.

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-hyunjaed-cute-ferret-jump-jump-gif-7877086283387940885

[fleet zealot]

i don't have ferrets to put in macoroni

and usually other people post macaroni ferrets

[static sky]

It’s all been a lie!!!

[fleet zealot]

it hasn't

i've said multiple times I do not currently own a ferret and simply appreciate ferrets via multiple platforms

i do not have ferret, none of these images/videos/gifs are mine

[static sky]

Who’s Ferret is yassified in you pfp?? Just some random ferret

[fleet zealot]

yea

knify did this one

[static sky]

It’s truly a sad day in my world…..

[static sky]

You broke my heart Peety you broke my achey breaky heart

https://tenor.com/view/cat-broken-heart-so-sad-confused-gif-5436699502760652187

[static sky]

I’m breeding a great Rat army to combat your imaginary ferrets. It’s all been for nothing

[sullen forge]

Running Knife with Close and Kill Aura with another Knife Zealot was actually fucking peak

[static sky]

https://tenor.com/view/piemations-rats-random-gif-25561169

[sterile stone]

Trapper net in your near future

[sullen forge]

Didn't get trappered once

the zealot did but we were basically making sure we didn't get fucked over from random BS

we stuck near the team but ran ahead to do Objective or Kill a problematic horde

[solar gorge]

can't wait to bull rush into trapper nets on march the 25th

[sterile stone]

[full nebula]

Counts as dodging now

[sullen forge]

🚬

[sterile stone]

Bobo clearly the mvp

[sullen forge]

They were doing Martyr so im not surprised they took so much damage

Bobo was a late join

Admittedly was helpful

that Psyker though

holy

90% of the match on the floor

LMAO

[sterile stone]

That sounds like every ogryn pub ever I've had

[static sky]

It’s hard work carrying so much weight. They needed breaks

[solar gorge]

average psylet when any melee enemy gets within 5 meters of them

[sullen forge]

^

literally

[frozen kernel]

I have deaths/downs/disables enabled on the board so I can laugh at these people harder

[sullen forge]

me and the Zealot would run ahead to kill a mauler pack

[full nebula]

Level 700+

[sullen forge]

hear the down sfx

turn around and run back to the psyker

pox horde beating them with bricks

[solar gorge]

i had a true survivor psyker fold anytime a bruiser pack got close to him recently

[sterile stone]

I'm gonna que psyker out of spite

[solar gorge]

on normal board damnation

[sullen forge]

Melee Psyker

[full nebula]

I bought that set but I dont use the jacket

too puffy

[sterile stone]

It really isn't hard to get away from melee that isn't burgled

Purg staff

M1

Congrats they are now staggered

Just move back until you are at safe distance

[solar gorge]

i have a better build which is just using trauma and aiming at my own feet

100% foolproof

makes you invincible

[static sky]

It’s a new peak strategy. You can’t go down if your already there

[solar gorge]

like the guy from fortnite

[sullen forge]

its funny as hell cause you can just run Knife or DS

and magically you're no longer near the Burgle enemy

[sterile stone]

DS users

[tropic garnet]

I guess "Havoc" is just a whole another difficulty right ?

[sterile stone]

Gotta be the most disgusting thing ever uttered

[sullen forge]

True..

[sterile stone]

It's just

[sullen forge]

Rather use knife

[sterile stone]

Here's some bullshit ontop of other bullshit

[tropic garnet]

...

[sterile stone]

It isn't hard if you are competent

[tropic garnet]

Right let's go in

[sullen forge]

bullshit cubed

[sterile stone]

My internet is shitting the bed

Guess that means no gaming

[static sky]

Is it running?

[fleet zealot]

woke moderator team banned me for calling my team bad

banned for being a n*zi in chat

it's amazing

steam forums

[sullen forge]

40K never ceases to amaze me

[static sky]

We should openly accept them. And then when they get all comfortable and complacent. Beat the shit out of them!!!

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-beat-up-pogger-gif-22865694

just like this

jump em

[grizzled aspen]

Somehow I have bugged my tmodloader and I've been cursed for 40 minutes.

[static sky]

Give em the ole 1 of these and 2 of those and roundhouse kick to make it a full course meal of combos

[grizzled aspen]

I dont know what mod is making stuff that shouldn't have timers, have timers, like water candles, nor why debuffs are so fucking long.

[static sky]

I didn’t ask for thug life. Thug life asked for me!!!! Knuckle sammiches for all the fascists

[copper hawk]

Ive been thinkin

About this thing meow saw on le reddit

[static sky]

About evolution again?

[copper hawk]

Where ppl were sayin a single space marine could destroy the death star

And that Vader stood no chance against a space marine

[sullen forge]

Kid named Nurse

heal yourself NOW!

[grizzled aspen]

Ok but when fighting skeletron on masochist mode and he keeps fucking cursing me I can't really go heal at the nurse.

[copper hawk]

Typical wh40k fans just absolutely incapable of seeing past their own noses

And it got me thinkin

[sullen forge]

Okay you're playing maso mode

that explains everything

[grizzled aspen]

Vader would fold any non psyker in a heartbeat.

[plucky gate]

simply hit that one spot that makes the entire death star blow up

[grizzled aspen]

So is it masochist mode that is why my timer is so abhorrently long?

[copper hawk]

Wonder how like a clone trooper regiment would do against a guardsman regiment

[sullen forge]

Most likely

it heavily increases Debuff timers though

[grizzled aspen]

:(

[static sky]

Can the troopers aim and hit the side of a barn?

[grizzled aspen]

That means I have to turn it off to kill him.

At the very least until I can get a nazar from the dungeon...

[frosty herald]

Guard would win

[sullen forge]

Well that or just

shit are you playing mage?

[copper hawk]

I think clones would win tbh

[long oasis]

calamity?

[sullen forge]

or does curse not let you do anything

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[frosty herald]

Oh clone troopers

[copper hawk]

Training, their physiology, being clones, and their equipment

[frosty herald]

Clones would win

[copper hawk]

Yah clones

Not storm troopers

[plucky gate]

clones can aim
it's the storm troopers that can't

[grizzled aspen]

Curse is no equipment. No attacking, healing, or grappling.

[copper hawk]

Clones in lore and legends are fucking busted

Theyd make an awesome guard regiment

[frosty herald]

If it was stormtroopers they would lose because of the sheer artillery the guard uses

[sullen forge]

Inb4 "dont get hit idiot"

[copper hawk]

Clones have arty too

[grizzled aspen]

Have you SEEN how masochist skeletron fights?

[copper hawk]

And so do storm troopers

[long oasis]

skeletron is always dicks in calamity

[sullen forge]

Bullet hell

[copper hawk]

Mostly plasma based

Turbolasers

[grizzled aspen]

FOUR hands, constantly spraying skulls, and this motherfucker spawns dark casters and diabolists.

[copper hawk]

Does plasma fuck up leman russes ?

[grizzled aspen]

If you don't know, diabolists are the hardmode fireball thrower guys.

[frosty herald]

Clone troopers heavily use guerilla tactics

[copper hawk]

Like would a ST AT-AT fuck up a russ ?

[frosty herald]

I dont think so imo

[copper hawk]

I feel like the chin mounted turbolasers would

They can punch through ship hulls

[static sky]

What guard regiments will the clones face off against? Like PDF forces or Kriegers or scions? That makes a big difference

[copper hawk]

I was thinking like

[grizzled aspen]

If an AT-AT shot a russ, I think it would destroy it, but a russ could also just blow its legs off in one shot.

[frosty herald]

Were asuming cadians

[copper hawk]

Average clone regiment v your typical clone regiment

Oops srry

Guard

Not any of the names ones either way

Then do like

Cadian v 501st or something

[sullen forge]

Plasma cannot pierce Leman Russ armor seeing its meant for infantry and light armor, now keep in mind 40k standards thats still pretty fucking heavy

[copper hawk]

Excluding Anakin of course

[sullen forge]

MELTAS HOWEVER

[copper hawk]

Or their Jedi commanders

[sullen forge]

MELTAS

[grizzled aspen]

He is literally the only boss that is being a problem. I'm sure I could beat him if I wasn't using true melee.

[copper hawk]

And then mby considering Jedi commanders

[frosty herald]

Also 40k plasma is a fuckton stronger than star wars plasma

[sterile basalt]

Gale do u wanna play rn

[copper hawk]

Since Jedi could be a lot like a Psyker's equivalent

[frosty herald]

Wajt

Fuck

[sullen forge]

yeah in a moment gotta use the restroom

[static sky]

Clones fold average guard then. But typical clones are trained like elite guard regiments right?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[copper hawk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40k/s/CrqoVNCzDD

[grizzled aspen]

Also consider their tactics.

[frosty herald]

Clones are unironically an entire regiment of scions

[copper hawk]

The resdit post meow foubd

Found

It's so dumb

[grizzled aspen]

Guard regiments win through attrition.

Clones are literally made to fight an enemy that fight this way.

[copper hawk]

Like ppl sayin Vader couldnt stop a bolter round

[grizzled aspen]

Droids have no sense of self preservation, they will absolutely swarm clones until one side dies.

[copper hawk]

When we see and read of just like

Normal Jedi doing stupid shit

[frosty herald]

Jedi can literally stop buildings

[copper hawk]

Like stopping plasma bolts from blaster rifles

And buildings yah

Vader is like

[static sky]

Is that a bolter though? Naww

[copper hawk]

Top level Varro Tigurius lvl psyker equivalent

[hard nexus]

there’s apparently a comic where obi wan stops a flame thrower with the force

[frosty herald]

The chosen one of the force could pick up a terminator and rip him appart

[hard nexus]

so

[grizzled aspen]

I actually did the math on this once. Vader can stop blaster shots, which move at around 120x the speed of a bolter round.

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[hard nexus]

i think in a ground force battle

[copper hawk]

Frog autism coming in clutch

[hard nexus]

star wars wins

[frosty herald]

Btw meow

[hard nexus]

well

it depends on which star wars

like

[grizzled aspen]

Like I said, Vader folds non psykers just about every time.

[hard nexus]

which era

[frosty herald]

Obi wan is the master of the defensive lightsaber style

[grizzled aspen]

Which one lmao?

[frosty herald]

You cannot overpower his defense in any way

[hard nexus]

even psykers, he has the advantage of not exploding if he forces too hard

[copper hawk]

Troo

[static sky]

Could he take a black Templar? Riddle me that???

[copper hawk]

Never thought about it this way

[grizzled aspen]

There's like 17 different forms.

[copper hawk]

But yah makes sense

[frosty herald]

Easily

[hard nexus]

yes

[frosty herald]

Darth vader could make power armor implode on you

[grizzled aspen]

Pretty sure Obi-Wan is a master of form 8.

[long oasis]

Vader vs. Ciaphas Cain?

[hard nexus]

space marines would be easy kills against jedi

[copper hawk]

The Force is so broken lmfao

[hard nexus]

librarians could put up fights, but against jedi masters, they’d be dead

[grizzled aspen]

Depends on how willing the Jedi is to kill.

[static sky]

I refuse to hear your heresy. BTs would shred Vader, Palpatine and Anny at the same time

[hard nexus]

they kill quite often in self defense

[copper hawk]

Cal Kestis level killing we'll say

Since he's an average above average jedi

Who kills ppl

[frosty herald]

He knows how to slow time

[copper hawk]

And uses dark side powers ala grey Jedi status

[grizzled aspen]

Obi-Wan would absolutely prefer not to kill you if he can help it, for example, but Anakin would run you through because you looked at him funny.

[frosty herald]

Thats already a tremendous feat

[hard nexus]

feet????

freak.

[copper hawk]

I wonder how heavy b2 battle droid is

LMFAO peak sticker

[copper hawk]

Fucked up ghost

[hard nexus]

can’t be more than yo mama

[frozen kernel]

Force crush

[copper hawk]

LMFAOOOO

[frozen kernel]

Goodbye Angel

[copper hawk]

Aaaaaaand blocked !

[frosty herald]

I genuinely pray that cal kestis learns force walking in jedi 3

[grizzled aspen]

Don't even mention force scream. :)

[hard nexus]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

slopped!

anyway basically jedi stomp space marines, jedi masters stomp psykers

who wins abbeloth or god emperor

[copper hawk]

That's a tough one

[frosty herald]

God emperor unironically

[grizzled aspen]

I know that for whatever reason, Starkiller isn't canon, but in the games he legit force screams and vaporizes an entire stormtrooper regiment.

[static sky]

Vader couldn’t handle Titus!!! Look at secret level for proof of warp fuckery vs a child that has never known Fear

[frosty herald]

Jedi are stronger than regular psykers

[frozen kernel]

40k power scaling is wank so I can’t even say with a straight face that Jedi are just better Psykers

[hard nexus]

he pulls down star destroyer from orbit lmfao

he’s insane

[frosty herald]

But alpha level psykers are so disgustingly strong they bend reality

[hard nexus]

that’s the reason he isn’t canon

he’s so extremely powerful it breaks the entire lote

[grizzled aspen]

The star destroyer was already damaged and he sort of guided the fall, but sure.

He still fucking moved one.

[frozen kernel]

I think Psyker’s have a higher theoretical peak with the reality warping, but SW Legends has some fucking crazy shit as well so idk

[hard nexus]

tbf abbeloth kinda does that too, she needed to be imprisoned by a shit ton of black holes

idk i don’t really know much of abbeloth

so i’m just like

[frosty herald]

Psykers scaling curve is slow but ramps up extremely

[copper hawk]

Only like cosmic entity i can think of off the top of my head that could maybe run GEs pockets is Giygas

[frozen kernel]

Yeah

[frosty herald]

Stopping time is nothing for alpha psykers

[frozen kernel]

Like the way I think about it

[grizzled aspen]

See, my thing is, I don't think a Jedi Master would necessarily be able to body a librarian every time.

[long oasis]

how fast space marines move is never consistent too. In one novel they can move so famn fast that guardsmen literally freeze up with dread, while in another they get offed by a dude with a sharpened stick?

[grizzled aspen]

Librarians are scary motherfuckers in their own right.

[copper hawk]

I want to say at like

Peak republic era

[obsidian prairie]

Well yeah they would just get fucking shot

[frozen kernel]

Regular Jedi vs Regular Psyker, Jedi wins every time. They’re just better

Peak Jedi vs Peak Psyker, I don’t think the Jedi has a chance

[full nebula]

Guys, 700+ zealot

[obsidian prairie]

Librarians carry weapons

[full nebula]

They werent too bad though

[copper hawk]

There's probably 10 masters or more for each librarian

[frosty herald]

Darth vader and mephiston would be equals

[full nebula]

Good enough

[copper hawk]

U cant just shoot a jedi

[hard nexus]

jedi have light sabers and can just, stop the bolt shells

[copper hawk]

There's a bit in kotor where hk says it's like next to impossible to even assassinate a jedi

[obsidian prairie]

The explosive shells

[copper hawk]

Aka shooting one when they're not even looking

[copper hawk]

Or the force

[obsidian prairie]

That would detonate when exposed to plasma

[plucky gate]

idk anything about 40k lore but can't the psyker just brain rupture the jedi?

[copper hawk]

Literally just stop it mid air

[hard nexus]

with the force, such as in astartes, where psykers stop bolt shells mid air

[static sky]

Yasss

[hard nexus]

and they detonate harmlessly

[grizzled aspen]

The force is used to protect users of it against such attacks.

[copper hawk]

Compared to a blaster bolt they move at the speed of snail

[grizzled aspen]

This is why you can't just squish someone's brain inside their head with the force.

[long oasis]

they dont react to stop it though, they had a shield up

[copper hawk]

Yah

[obsidian prairie]

I don’t think 95% of Jedi expect a solid round

[hard nexus]

(and force users can stop blasters)

[copper hawk]

The Force and the Warp have similar powers and applications

[frosty herald]

You could 100% overpower a regular jedi if you shoot enough bolter rounds

[static sky]

I don’t think Jedi could compete with the brutality of Warhammers elites.

[frozen kernel]

https://streamable.com/8hxvof Dodge this, heretic

[obsidian prairie]

So they would attempt a lightsaber parry and then eat shit

[copper hawk]

Id argue the Force is so ambigious it lends to its strength

[frosty herald]

They couldnt stop the sheer kinetic energy

[copper hawk]

They dont have to

[frozen kernel]

The Emprah protects

[copper hawk]

They have prescience

[hard nexus]

the explosive radius isn’t massive it’s most like a hollow point bullet, meant to enhance a wound, not cause one

[obsidian prairie]

Both systems are extremely loose

[copper hawk]

It's a fundamental Force power even normal jedi knights are great at

[grizzled aspen]

A Jedi is basically a diviner and telekinetic psyker at the same time.

[hard nexus]

even the shell detonating on a light saber wouldn’t really do much to a jedi

also, they have precognition

[static sky]

Like in the acolyte?? lol

[fleet zealot]

the celebration at the end

[grizzled aspen]

Depending on how you use the force, you could even qualify to be considered part of other schools of thought, such as a biomancer.

[copper hawk]

Yeah true

[grizzled aspen]

The point here is that Jedi sense all living things.

[obsidian prairie]

60% Finesse on dodge????!?!

[long oasis]

damn. Skill issue honestly

[copper hawk]

Lots of Jedi arent even like Knights

[grizzled aspen]

You physically cannot sneak up on them.

[frosty herald]

We also have to think about what powers the jedi has

[copper hawk]

They do just normal healing or farming with societies as aides

With force powers

[obsidian prairie]

Send a blank

[static sky]

Except in the acolyte.

[grizzled aspen]

The only things that could would be like one of those assassination droids.

[frozen kernel]

Gotta cheer to the the angels when a tiny Krieger picks up a heretic axe and fucking ends a chaos marine

[copper hawk]

Blanks only work with specifically Warp related shit

But the Force being its own thing I wonder

[obsidian prairie]

They’re soulless basically

[static sky]

Disney undid all of your arguments for Jedi superiority.

[copper hawk]

Since it has to do with souls yag

[frozen kernel]

“It’s tech heresy and I have to kill you now, but dawg that was so cool”

[copper hawk]

Yah*

[grizzled aspen]

For the sake of the argument, let's say Blanks can't be detected by the force.

[obsidian prairie]

I imagine that would also affect Jedi life sense

[copper hawk]

Dawg im sure there's probably a blank equivalent in legends or eu

[grizzled aspen]

You are still, despite being a Blank, attempting to sneak up on what is essentially an alpha level psyker.

[hard nexus]

do u think precog on a lightsaber would affect any space marines breakpoints? or is +ceramite enough? i cant test right now, i have to do some cleaning

[copper hawk]

Go my google minion

[frosty herald]

I imagine blanks would give jedi's a mind splitting headache

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[obsidian prairie]

The rot consumes

[plucky gate]

just fire the double barrel shotgunn at the jedi

you think they can parry all the bullets?

[hard nexus]

the force is something that propagates the entire universe, so i doubt it’d be affected by blanks

[naive wharf]

funny shotgun roll

[long oasis]

depends on if youre running flak/unyielding or cara/unyielding

[frosty herald]

This is unironically how the mandalorians killed jedi regularly

[grizzled aspen]

^

Beat me to it.

[frosty herald]

They used ballistic based shotguns

[frozen kernel]

Curious how weird it’d feel for a Jedi to lose their precognition, but literally only for one person. Like everything around them is fine with the force except THIS ONE DUDE

[grizzled aspen]

Shotguns are how you kill Jedi.

Flamethrowers, too.

[frozen kernel]

Shotguns and gas

And*

[grizzled aspen]

Oh right gas.

[frozen kernel]

Threatening loved ones

[static sky]

Basically just be a black Templar

[grizzled aspen]

That exists.

[naive wharf]

tried the mk 4 chainaxe a bit, really fun, love being able to just spam m1 on elites, especially bulwarks

[frozen kernel]

What the fuck autocorrect

[plucky gate]

And psykers wouldn't lose to the same shit
just slap deflector on a force sword

[hard nexus]

nono you already take +ceramite, it helps meet the 3shot break point on weakspot crit hits

[frozen kernel]

HK has the whole spiel about it in KOTOR 2

[frosty herald]

@copper hawk could arbites kill a jedi?

[grizzled aspen]

That would essentially be the same thing as stopping a boltgun round with the force.

[frozen kernel]

“Yeah Jedi are kind of a pain in the ass to kill but if you threaten their loved ones, they’ll basically end themselves for you”

Based assassin droid

[naive wharf]

what perks/blessings for shock maul btw?

[obsidian prairie]

Wouldn’t really affect actively corrosive gasses but would help

[copper hawk]

A cop in power armor ?

I mean possibly

[grizzled aspen]

The reason why shotguns were so effective is because it's standard to use blaster weapons instead of kinetic weapons, so a Jedi would see someone attempt to shoot them and attempt to parry the shot.

[frosty herald]

They use shotguns

[long oasis]

arbite shotguns are pretty strong

[copper hawk]

But the Jedi sweeps for the most part unless it's in super specific circumstances

[plucky gate]

meanwhile our psykers can deflector block shotgunners just fine

[grizzled aspen]

Doesn't work, because 1, too many projectiles, and 2, anything that touches the saber turns to molten slag and still hits the Jedi.

[plucky gate]

so our psyker > jedi

[copper hawk]

Force push and any like crush/slam to the floor/lift would work on the pellets in the air

[grizzled aspen]

Are you just willfully ignoring me or what?

[copper hawk]

Let alone they just

Raise and slam the arbites

[plucky gate]

but like we literally do it as our psyker

[frosty herald]

Mandalorians killed jedi with shotguns

[copper hawk]

Troo

[obsidian prairie]

Jedi thinking they’re hot shit when the ogryn hits them with a kickback mid monologue

[hard nexus]

molten slag isn’t really that dangerous, as it would probably hurt a bit, but it’s not going to rip throw a jedi, it’ll just splatter against them, iirc this was shown in a comic

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, now why.

Why were shotguns effective?

[static sky]

Arbites have the stand to die protocol. Gigachads can’t die

[grizzled aspen]

It's not that a Jedi can't stop shotgun pellets.

[frosty herald]

They didnt realize mandalorians used outdated weapons so they prepared to block a blastsr bolt

[grizzled aspen]

It's that Jedi are used to fighting blasters and are preparing to deflect a blaster bolt.

SEE

EXACTLY

[plucky gate]

I don't think anything I said contractadicts what you said. Jedi loses to shotgun, psyker doesn't

[grizzled aspen]

THATS WHAT I JUST SAID

[frosty herald]

If the jedi knew you used a shotgun they would use the force to block the shots

[grizzled aspen]

If the Jedi realizes it's a shotgun, they don't.

That's the point I'm making.

[plucky gate]

they have precog
they could've realized it just fine and still failed

[obsidian prairie]

This actually works for kickback because it looks like a grenade launcher

[frozen kernel]

Jedi Outcast/Academy they do

They force push them back at you

[frosty herald]

Yup

[frozen kernel]

You can do it too, and it fucking rips lmao

[grizzled aspen]

How funny it would be to see a guardsman get shredded by his own shotgun pellets...

[frozen kernel]

Ragdoll goes to Yavin

[frosty herald]

Its the fact that ballistic based weaponry was so extremely outdated no one knew they were still used

[frozen kernel]

You feel like such a genius thinking

“I’m gonna use the lock on alt fire of the rocket to kill that Jedi”

[plucky gate]

should've just predicted the future and known there were shotgun pellets coming

[frozen kernel]

Then the AI force pushes it back

[obsidian prairie]

The real flex on a Jedi is a masterkey

[frozen kernel]

And 5-6 year old you now has a rocket tracking them

And you’re too stupid to hit F1

[grizzled aspen]

Jedi don't see the future. They sense all things around them.

[frozen kernel]

To push it back lmao

[obsidian prairie]

Shoot them a bunch with the blaster and then hit them with the underbarrel shotgun

[broken walrus]

Lets be honest here, Psykers and Jedi have as much power and abilities as the plot needs them to. There is no logic here

[obsidian prairie]

Pasted

[frozen kernel]

That’s the truth innit

[plucky gate]

sense the shotgun then

[copper hawk]

Iirc the shotguns they used was like

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, nitpicker, they sense all living things around them.

[copper hawk]

A multiblaster

[grizzled aspen]

Smh.

[copper hawk]

It wasnt a shotgun

But a blaster scattershot thing

And they had issues deflecting the volley of bolts

[frozen kernel]

They sense that the living being wants to pull the concealed weapon. They don’t know what it can do just by being near them

[copper hawk]

But who knows

[grizzled aspen]

You can't sneak up on a Jedi but you could absolutely trick them if they think you're doing something you're not.

[copper hawk]

Parrying droidekas

[grizzled aspen]

Hence why kinetic projectiles worked.

[copper hawk]

Or a non military trained Cal parrying gatling blasters

[frosty herald]

Droidekas were absolute menaces

[plucky gate]

They can use the force to detect projectiles just fine though? Like they literally use drones that fire little lasers to train that

[copper hawk]

Wonder like

Wait nvm

[frozen kernel]

This is where vidya game and canon get messy, but yeah

[grizzled aspen]

That'd be because their shots fucking exploded.

[frosty herald]

Cal kestis blocked blaster bolts

[copper hawk]

I was gonna say how a droid army would fair againdt guardsman

[copper hawk]

Against guardsmen*

[frosty herald]

He can only parry blaster shots from droidekas or gatlings with the double sides sabee

[naive wharf]

sobbing

[grizzled aspen]

Droids would get stomped. Guardsmen are used to fighting enemies without a sense of self preservation.

[copper hawk]

Do u think a droideka would pose a threat to a space marine w their shield generators and blaster cannons ??

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[frosty herald]

Droids use cluster formations

They would be wiped out by artilerry

[grizzled aspen]

I think a droideka would get ripped in half by a heavy bolter.

[obsidian prairie]

Probably

[frosty herald]

No

[copper hawk]

The shield generator is the thing

[misty ravine]

Depends on the Guardsmen, if they are Reasonable Guardsmen and use cover and tactics etc., or if they are Grimderp Guardsmen and just march on up like it's 1648

[copper hawk]

It's like iron halo level

[obsidian prairie]

I know there’s a direct equivalent but I can’t pull the name

[frosty herald]

A space marine is more agile than the droideka

[grizzled aspen]

Again, the Imperium of Man is used to fighting enemies without a sense of preservation.

[fringe bay]

Also droidekas are weak to slow projectiles like grenades

[copper hawk]

With basically four magnacores on its arms

[naive wharf]

not at all, space marine would run up and step on it or something

[grizzled aspen]

^^^

[frosty herald]

And you can break a droideka shield through physical damage

[fringe bay]

You can just roll a grenade and blow it up

[grizzled aspen]

Fire something at them with a slow enough speed and the shield will not catch it.

[copper hawk]

A grenade is muuuuch slower than a bolt

But yah a frag would be good

[obsidian prairie]

Those grenade have to be rolling at like 1 foot per second

[grizzled aspen]

Also, droidekas can't defend themselves in melee.

[copper hawk]

I think without a frag ur having a rough time

[grizzled aspen]

Physical attacks pass straight through their shield.

[fringe bay]

Yeah, but any astra militarum soldier could use a grenade to blow one up

[copper hawk]

Especially w the one tap death a plasma bolt would give u

[fringe bay]

And yeah their shields only deflect projectiles

[grizzled aspen]

So any joker with a power sword, axe, etc could just walk up and cut it in half.

[obsidian prairie]

It’s hard though

[copper hawk]

I think they would

[frosty herald]

Isnt this retconned in jedi survivor

[fringe bay]

Plus we have no idea if kinetic projectiles can be deflected

[copper hawk]

Theyre lime tyranid warrior tier

[hexed igloo]

To the femtanyl listeners yall got anything similar to lovesick cannibal I'm currently obsessed

[copper hawk]

We do know that shields for the most part in star wars stop high speed things

[fringe bay]

On top of the fact that landmines and snipers are a droideka’s worst nightmare

[frosty herald]

In jedi survivor droidekas get their shield damaged to yellow orange red with lightsaber attacks

[grizzled aspen]

This right here, too. We never see people attempt to fire kinetic shots at a droideka that is set up.

[obsidian prairie]

There’s a scene in clone wars where they train a bunch of guerillas to do that trick and it takes a few days of practice

[copper hawk]

Yah

I think theyd be a good threat

It'd be cool to see

[fringe bay]

Right, but it’s a fairly simple concept, and claymores do the same thing

[copper hawk]

Theyre armies made for one another

[grizzled aspen]

Keep in mind, ladies and gents, that a boltgun round moves 120x slower than a blaster round.

[plucky gate]

I'm pretty sure in sw clone wars they specified the droideka shields just block fast moving items
There was a training scene where some people had to practice throwing an just the perfect speed

[misty ravine]

Also now that hyperspace ramming is in Star Wars, couldn't they just manhandle most of 40k by attaching warp hyperdrives to asteroids to make RKVs

[plucky gate]

even a grenade thrown too fast will get blocked

[copper hawk]

Yah

Has to be perfect too

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I just talked about that

[grizzled aspen]

Pretty sure a boltgun round would pass right through that shield and rip it in half.

[copper hawk]

Defo stop a lasgun

Or a bolter

[obsidian prairie]

They have to be rolling really slow

[fringe bay]

Oh right, they threw a rock at a droideka shield, and that bounced off, so it does deflect kinetics

[copper hawk]

If they stop plasma id say theyd stop a bolt

[fringe bay]

Yeah droideka shields only pass through slow moving objects

[copper hawk]

Plasma being significantly stronger in WH than a bolt

[static sky]

If not the explosion would disintegrate the shield and then them

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah it would deflect bolts

[plucky gate]

i think ogryn rock would just be slightly too fast as an example

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

Yah

OPP

[obsidian prairie]

No it’s a lot too fast

[grizzled aspen]

It's nice to know other people realize that blaster rounds are plasma and not lasers.

[copper hawk]

Ogryn Propelled Projectile

[fringe bay]

Although, droidekas can be countered with explosive emplacements

[obsidian prairie]

Half their grenade roll attempts bounce off despite going at like a foot per second

[hexed igloo]

What if you just like walked through their shield by utilizing your own shield, and just shoot them in the face

[fringe bay]

Also droidekas can be killed at range by artillery or snipers if they’re on the move

[grizzled aspen]

You can literally just put your hand through their shield.

[fringe bay]

Assuming that your shield can block sustained plasma bolt fire, then yes

[hexed igloo]

I mean the shield for you, being so you can survive getting up to walk through

[obsidian prairie]

They are moving too fast for stuff to clip through the shield while balled yeah

[grizzled aspen]

The shield isn't up while they roll around.

[obsidian prairie]

I just said that

I was providing reasoning

[fringe bay]

Also droidekas are hard countered by proper defensive emplacements

[grizzled aspen]

Sorry brain scrampled egg rn...

[fringe bay]

They’re a defensive droid

[frosty herald]

Marines are smart enough to blitz droidekas to get in melee then bait the droideka to roll

[grizzled aspen]

The imperial fists would like a word.

[static sky]

What if the ad mech got involved against the Droid army’s? I feel bad for them toasters.

[grizzled aspen]

Masters of offensive defense.

[grizzled aspen]

The archmagos, frothing at the mouth to dissect a droideka:

[hexed igloo]

They should paint the droidekas blue with spikes down their back

[frosty herald]

Tech heresy

It would be the same as dismantling necron tech

[grizzled aspen]

I didn't realize taking apart a machine driven by an ai was heresy.

[static sky]

Mechadendrites getting all chubbed up

[fringe bay]

I mean, who would the separatists’ enemies even be

[median steeple]

a influential archmagos doesn't have to worry about heresy

[grizzled aspen]

Don't fucking say that.

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[frosty herald]

Droids would be killed because of being men of steel

[static sky]

I crossed a line. I’m sorry lol

[obsidian prairie]

They would still take them apart anyway

[copper hawk]

Server is so full of freaks..

[frosty herald]

Aka ai bots

[obsidian prairie]

Know your enemy and all that

Though I feel like the shields would be the only interesting thing

[copper hawk]

Yah

[median steeple]

death to all marines and their glazers

I HATE MARINES

[grizzled aspen]

It's literally a question of "how does this differ from void shields we already use."

[obsidian prairie]

It’s miniaturized pretty well

[static sky]

But have you ever Black Templared before?

[obsidian prairie]

And power efficient

[frosty herald]

I legit want to see the first trailer of jedi 3 so badly

[frosty herald]

Jedi survivor is so cool

[acoustic dune]

one of my fav 4chan

[obsidian prairie]

There’s a reason you don’t really see non emplaced void shields

[hexed igloo]

Marines kinda mid I don't mind most of them but they're too big n bulky

[acoustic dune]

upthere with mustard gas in da toilet guy

[hexed igloo]

Rejects > marines

[carmine falcon]

i found this funny while watching vids
man if only there was a way to counter necron's op tech haha....like studying it ya know....

[plucky gate]

i wonder how many fallen order games there will be

[median steeple]

Void shields protect against both kinetic and energy based attacks while deflector shields only really protect against energy attacks, but ships will have both deflectors and shields for kinetic attacks

[plucky gate]

wonder if the next will be the last

[fringe bay]

I really wish I could afford astra militarim figures

[grizzled aspen]

Who would win? A squad of four veteran astartes, each hundreds of years old, who have seen thousands of battlefields and walked over thousands more of their fallen brothers, or one ogryn that is a little hungry?

[obsidian prairie]

Buy secondhand

[fringe bay]

That’s an idea

[frozen kernel]

Bros im not gay but
Gayest shit you’ve ever read

[static sky]

Is it female Ogryn?

[fringe bay]

Idk how I never thought of that

[hexed igloo]

One guy that loves the emperor a little too much

[obsidian prairie]

There is a written instance of an ogryn dissecting fucking terminators sooo

[frosty herald]

Void shields are vastly superior to anything they have in star wars as shields

[grizzled aspen]

That's the joke.

[obsidian prairie]

He died after like two

But he got 2

[static sky]

Ogryns are just Fat Astartes

[grizzled aspen]

Still, one ogryn brought down two fucking dreadnoughts.

[fringe bay]

15-75 dollars, that should be the default prices honestly

[median steeple]

I mean they're for two different things mostly, star wars shields don't have to contend with the weapons the size 40k ships carry (for the most part)

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I literally work at a place that does GW secondhand I am obligated to tell people (we ship btw)

[fringe bay]

Pog

Where is this place