zealot-class

[copper hawk]

Dead ,, not alive ,,

[carmine falcon]

me thinks zealot rework is not a priority cause class is strong technically

[copper hawk]

Class works

Like I said

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-beast-invincible-gif-14523317321066914838

[heady rapids]

they have to rework zealot next, then vet

[copper hawk]

Oggy had a rattling engine and metal shavings in the oil pan

[heady rapids]

cause vet has some uhh

issues methinks

[copper hawk]

Zealot has just always had a check engine light

[sullen forge]

Zealot needs it next cause they have one build

[copper hawk]

Still runs alright

But the issues r still there

[sullen forge]

Veteran last cause its less of they need and more of needing QOL changes

[carmine falcon]

bro i swear to got

im talking about this with some friends

and they are bitching about power creep

[frosty herald]

the only vet change there would be is trimming the bush

[carmine falcon]

its not a pvp game man stfu

[sullen forge]

I mean they're right though

[copper hawk]

Nah

Power creep is real

Theyre right

Power creep is why thammer is a dogshit weapon despite being functionally great

Power creep killed it

[carmine falcon]

i get where they're coming from but they were bitching about ogryn feeling like shit, now they think he's too strong
make yo mind up

[copper hawk]

(Dueling sword)

[heady rapids]

at least they uhh

nerfed the 6s

[copper hawk]

U can kinda like

[heady rapids]

into zealot cdr

you knwo the thing!!

[sullen forge]

Basically more so moving talents around to help with Point Tax issues to let for more builds to be possible without massively shoe horning yourself into a certain weapon combo

[copper hawk]

Make a judgement call on some of the talents

[sullen forge]

that and MF rework

[copper hawk]

We wont know till we play

[heady rapids]

so you cant stack cdr on kill

[sullen forge]

and im Calmjak

[lean cairn]

yeah man i love loading into a game with an off meta weapon and seeing enemies melt in front of me with no effort

[mighty root]

I’ve done that before I suppose it’s just practice gutter runner have no signs when they’re gonna pounce and that’s what I’m looking for to push them

[carmine falcon]

not disputing that
im just saying its pretty weird to avoid a class for being "weak" then just focusing on some of the funnier potentially op changes

[tight fog]

U know the amount of gigabitching that happens if anything is ever nerfed

[copper hawk]

Yah

Lmfao

[tight fog]

So we literally only have ourselves to blame for power creep

[frosty herald]

more just combining talents and making it so you dont need 25 points just to reach the end of the tree with keystones

[copper hawk]

Devs have said they wont nerf Vet cuz of it

[mighty root]

Same

[copper hawk]

Like, tremendously nerf

Due to the Power Sword incident

[sullen forge]

Veteran doesn't deserve nice things like that

[copper hawk]

When they nerfed PSword from broken to busted

[carmine falcon]

im NOT denying power creep im just saying their first impressions went to going full doomer mode

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-truth-spongebob-truth-nuke-gif-1296874394411357781

[carmine falcon]

on a class they considered ass

makes no sense to me

[copper hawk]

Oggy was awful yah

[carmine falcon]

please buff it but not too much tee hee

[copper hawk]

The tree was like zealot tree

The big oggy issue was the weapons

Only two useable weapons

The others were from an era of pre enemy buff darktide

Damage caps, target caps, terrible adms, terrible damage, etc

[modern lintel]

wonder if shredder changes will at all be enough to bring it out of absolutely abysmal tier

[copper hawk]

Again, damage and target caps are stupid

Unhealthy for the game

Just remove them

[misty nova]

Well
Finesse value went up

[copper hawk]

There's like maybe two or three weapons? Maybe only one? Now with a damage cap

[sullen forge]

Seeing its Finesse went up

[copper hawk]

Now that they removed them from the clubs and cleavers

[sterile stone]

The gun or the grenades?

[misty nova]

Piety weapon

[sullen forge]

MF Build on Vet might make it pretty good

[copper hawk]

Gun

Shautstol

[modern lintel]

which do you think is in the abysmal tier rn

[sullen forge]

if I see grenade typed out at all we're going to have to skin him

[sterile stone]

I don't hard focus on the umemployed behavior known as darktide meta chasers

[modern lintel]

deceiver

[sterile stone]

I just load the game up and play

[copper hawk]

Yah argus is too cool for that

We're mere peasants 2 the likes of him

Anywho yah shredder auto pistol gonna be fun

[sullen forge]

Oh so ogryn just has Better Serrated Edge NOW LMAO

[modern lintel]

iv seen ur builds mr

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

[sterile stone]

I've dead ass been told

[copper hawk]

Bleed on everything

Bleed for everyone, everywhere

[sterile stone]

My builds aren't good because I'm not hard focusing damage

[sullen forge]

Give the Bull Butchers Mercy Killer + Uncanny and there you go

[sterile stone]

And I committed the sin of putting field improv on veteran

[sullen forge]

bigger Veteran

[fleet zealot]

yep

[copper hawk]

R u srsly arguin ignorance over a sarcastic quip argus lmfao

[sullen forge]

He isn't damage maxxing

[copper hawk]

Y r u dyin on this hill

[sullen forge]

kill him

[copper hawk]

It's ok 2 know things about game

[sterile stone]

I'm going to the washed out lane

[modern lintel]

i saw a perk thats applies burn stack on close explosion dmg the flaming bleed thumper is to be feared

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yah

W the big grenade

18 stacks of fire

[sullen forge]

Inshallah

[modern lintel]

how many bleed stacks is shredder again

[sullen forge]

You know at first I was like "Oh we're just joking around"

now im actually like this

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-ratatouille-chef-ratatouille-reading-shocked-gif-23517636

[heady rapids]

mixed horde clearing with gauntlet is gonna be crazy...

[sullen forge]

Chat I think Ogryn is better Zealot for now...

[copper hawk]

Oh for sure

[fiery ingot]

roleplayers in this game be like

[copper hawk]

10000%

They have thrust as a talent

And have parry as a talent

With buffs

[sullen forge]

A PARRY TALENT

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/im-proud-of-you-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20773745

[copper hawk]

Yep

[sullen forge]

WHERE IS THIS

[frosty herald]

grenade gauntlet

[frosty herald]

perfect block a melee attack and your next melee attack gets a 20% damage boost

[copper hawk]

@sullen forge

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/maltigi-scary-evil-luigi-creepy-luigi-exe-gif-16926629064327547242

[copper hawk]

Power creep is real

Told meow im back 2 bein an oggy main now

Goodbye zealot

Oggy and i r gettin married march 25th

[carmine falcon]

variety is the spice of life (me when i play zealot 99% of the time)

[modern lintel]

i only played zealot for relic anyway

[copper hawk]

I think oggy is my 3rd highest leveled class

[sterile stone]

Bro is becoming a meta slave

Smh

I thought you were better

[copper hawk]

I max leveled all my chars like 3 or 4 weeks after the game launched

Many moons sgo

[modern lintel]

im becoming cool slave actually

relic based and cool

explode

[sterile stone]

Mhmm

[copper hawk]

It blows my mind ppl have played as long as i have

[sterile stone]

Next you're gonna tell me you're going purg psyker

[copper hawk]

And dont have ogryns or psykers lmfao

Like how can u play that long and not start on another character

[modern lintel]

i think ogryns my second most lvld class after vet

[sullen forge]

Yeah okay bub

say that whilst you're still clutching your meta pearls

🚬

[copper hawk]

I only play zeal for heavy sword 9

[modern lintel]

i bet you play dueling sword i can smell it off u

[violet hornet]

Glad they removed quell cancelling, even as much as I liked to do it manually at least I won't have to quit every other mission to report an m1 macro user

[frosty herald]

quell cancel psykers now have to learn how to play the game lol lmao

[sullen forge]

Last time I touched it was around December when havoc came out before immediately dropping it again LMAO

[sullen forge]

DS is YUCKY!!!!!!!!!

[copper hawk]

MEEEEE !!!!!!

[sterile stone]

The amount of DS vets is wild in pubs

[sullen forge]

They dont know how good some of Vets melee choices are...

[copper hawk]

I leave matches unironically if i see a dueling sword

[sullen forge]

Based

[sterile stone]

Totally like power sword, and powersword

[copper hawk]

Unless if it's built shitty or non meta

Like an agile dueling sword or something

[modern lintel]

had a shock maul stealth vet in my hav40 last night went as expected for him

death

[copper hawk]

Gemerald

[lean lark]

@frosty herald my current best temp jd 5star time on swaxe

[copper hawk]

Impjak

[sterile stone]

I mean he deserves points for creativity.

[lean lark]

4 minutes longer than the current best chargeblade temp 5star jd

[sterile stone]

I can say I've never seen something like that before

[lean lark]

not too shabby

[misty nova]

Ogryn version of Duelist

💀

[copper hawk]

Or second wind

Lmfao

Except better

[sullen forge]

yeah exactly LMAO

[copper hawk]

Since ur dodges knock enemies over

[modern lintel]

i still dont like you cant effectively run bull rush and explodey weapons tho

[sullen forge]

Veteran only has Recip which is just Crit on Dodge, Zealot has a Handful of buffs on Dodge cause I mean like

THATS THE CLASSES GIMMICK

[frosty herald]

cole has been very silent on ogryn...

[sullen forge]

ermm achtkually itsh Trash mobs

[sterile stone]

@spare talon Your autism has been called to the front stage

[sullen forge]

aka what usually can get the human classes killed with bad positioning

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yes

[sullen forge]

Ogryn unironically is baby mode now

[sterile stone]

Dude is more than likely asleep

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jOgkONMrlvveRg1E1/spok?invite=cr-MSxJaEMsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[sterile stone]

Mans has a goblin sleep schedule.

[sullen forge]

See I dont want to admit it

[placid fiber]

to be fair most ogryn weapons swing a decent bit slower

[copper hawk]

Poxwalkers ON THE FLOOR being able to bodyblock you is insane

[sullen forge]

I've had this happen A LOT

with Veteran

[modern lintel]

also them doubling ripper gun ammo is v funni

[sullen forge]

Poxer falls to floor

panicking why I cant move

eat shit for it

[copper hawk]

Absurd

[hybrid jewel]

Poxes that are dead still blocking because ping lag is normal for me already, lmao.

[carmine falcon]

im waiting for someone to say im dropping darktide cause the only class that required SKILL!! is now easy

[modern lintel]

maybe i should unmute ogryn chat and look in there

[placid fiber]

Can't tell you how many times that has happened to me lol

[carmine falcon]

they're ogryning all over the place there

[sterile stone]

The great ogryn racism uprising pt.2

[carmine falcon]

crazy things are happening

[sullen forge]

they should just fucking change it to where if a groaner or poxers is on the ground/laying its a state you can walk over them @copper hawk

thats just me

[misty ravine]

At least we don't trip over or get physically blocked by corpses

[hybrid jewel]

Ping lag means latter happens though.

[sullen forge]

Chat im going to explode

*** we dont need another IOD situation ***

[frosty herald]

i like changes like tis

[modern lintel]

double it and give it to the next class

[frosty herald]

speeding up the cooldown regen is a LOT more balanced than instant cooldown

[placid fiber]

Veteran:

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[grizzled aspen]

It's actually fine.

[sullen forge]

I have a huge fucking issue with Speeding it up cause you can very easily make a 60s CD to a 10s

[copper hawk]

Kid named tactical awareness

[sullen forge]

Yeah I also fucking hate it

Remove all CD reduction

[grizzled aspen]

Way better than killing a bunch of elites that can't fight back like gunners in melee and instantly getting your cooldown back.

[sullen forge]

its unhealthy

[sterile stone]

Yeah but you're also a giant target

[sullen forge]

and?

Position better

[grizzled aspen]

Also it doesn't stack on itself.

[sterile stone]

You think pubs are gonna position better

[grizzled aspen]

It's just double cooldown speed.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[grizzled aspen]

It's absolutely a fine node.

[sullen forge]

Exactly thats why they should eat shit

[placid fiber]

Gunlugger turns on career skill with kickback
the 20 gunners 5 feet away:

[copper hawk]

I like cd reduction tbh

[grizzled aspen]

Just remember they're coming for your tactical awareness, Gale.

[sterile stone]

We need Josh back in here to post the old clip of him just cooking a boss by himself with a ripper

[sullen forge]

Idgaf as if I spam VOC every 3 seconds like every other vet Pubber

[sterile stone]

That shit was funny because of how dumb it was

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1IMHG3ee5DlVnX/spok?invite=cr-MSxrUGgsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
It shouldnt be like this though lmfao

[sullen forge]

me who purposely wont use it half the match to let my team die sometimes LMAO

[grizzled aspen]

I'm surprised that psyker chat isn't exploding with quell cancel being removed.

[sterile stone]

Report to ban

[stone fern]

only one person in the entire chat used it unironically

[placid fiber]

They removed that? Huh... Well I never used it, but, cool

[sullen forge]

It was fucking irritating getting matched up with players who did

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah fatshark put a minimum time you have to quell if you input it.

Super nice that we will never see someone doing that again.

Half my lobbies have been saved.

[placid fiber]

I don't even know what it looks like tbh

[grizzled aspen]

The other half are smiteker lobbies.

[stone fern]

i wish they put the delay on the lmb fire instead of the quell

[sullen forge]

Well Helbores and Vigilants or any other Melee special guns

are getting melee speed talents effected on them

so thats nice

[sterile stone]

Who out here using helbores

[grizzled aspen]

So imagine the fireball m1, right, now fire fast enough that each fireball touches the one in front of and behind it, the psyker can't explode, and they can instantly delete a crusher.

[sterile stone]

In this economy?

[sullen forge]

a solid 2 veterans

[copper hawk]

Helsnores

[sullen forge]

@sterile stone

[placid fiber]

[grizzled aspen]

Wrong reply moment noob 🚬

[sullen forge]

I like it when the ping decides to say yeah im changing on you for no fucking reason

[grizzled aspen]

There's nothing wrong with what they did.

[sullen forge]

Slopcord

[copper hawk]

I think the parry talent is kinda nuts though lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

Clad out here complaining for no reason.

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-thats-me-only-me-gif-13516013

[sterile stone]

I figured most people just use m1 spam to stagger shit to make distance.

[copper hawk]

Dclaw parry on every weapon except at no stamina risk

[stone fern]

WHAT

[copper hawk]

With a buff

[stone fern]

this is darktide endgame

[grizzled aspen]

?

[stone fern]

complaining over litearlly nothing is 50% of the gameplay

[copper hawk]

For ogryn frog

The perfect block talent

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch2-support-god-of-war-ragnarok-kratos-gif-27275824

[grizzled aspen]

I need to go re read it.

[stone fern]

i need a darktide streamer to read it to me

[obsidian prairie]

No dueling sword nerf

God is dead

[misty nova]

Can't wait for my perfect block to crash the server when I block muties

[sullen forge]

^ @grizzled aspen

this shit is

[modern lintel]

shouldve supported harder smh

[sullen forge]

beyond busted

[grizzled aspen]

AHHHHH WHAT

[sterile stone]

I thought you openly admitting to cheating in SoD2 was gross, now you've posted this.

[stone fern]

the previous patch had more stuff than the announcement

[grizzled aspen]

OGRYN CAN PARRY OVERHEADS NOW

SICK

[frosty herald]

cant wait for the zealot rework

[sullen forge]

ALL MELEE ATTACKS

[copper hawk]

Yep

[stone fern]

theres prolly more stuff

[sullen forge]

SO FUCKING STUPID LMAO

[copper hawk]

Can parry daemonhosts too

[grizzled aspen]

Chat I may main ogryn now.

[copper hawk]

I will lmfao

Better zealot

[placid fiber]

[violet hornet]

We all ogryn mains now

[stone fern]

I
CHEAT IN SINGLE PLAYER GAMES

[frosty herald]

imagine perfect block is only 3 frames lmao

[sterile stone]

SWTOR support life is actual fucking hell, you get blamed for everyone elses misdoings

[stone fern]

i am not ashamed

[grizzled aspen]

The world has fallen.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/ic0niclisa-throwing-tomato-gif-23144061

[sullen forge]

I think god died the moment P13 came out

[violet hornet]

Big zealot is back on the menu

[obsidian prairie]

Can’t wait to see how the steam forums try to cope about this one

[grizzled aspen]

No, people used m1 macro to melt everything in sight and trivialize shit like civi.

[copper hawk]

Yeah

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine the giant hordes of armor coming to beat your ass being deleted by one single psyker.

[sterile stone]

Sounds fun

[placid fiber]

1/3-1/2 of the mod haters are gonna hop on the ogryn hater train

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-tomatoes-spongebob-meme-gif-26952964

[copper hawk]

I left civis if i saw a ds or a psyker w a tennisball staff

[grizzled aspen]

It was SO fucking annoying.

[grizzled aspen]

Voidstrike was fine.

Same with trauma.

[stone fern]

I gave myself 20 million euro dollars in cyberpunk

[violet hornet]

Imagine using a macro on what should already be the highest dps build in the game

[grizzled aspen]

The ones you had to watch out for were the ek users.

[stone fern]

90000 gold in witcher 3

gave myself all the collectable slop

[sterile stone]

Was talking about shit like this in another discord

[stone fern]

i careth not

[copper hawk]

I cheat in kcd 2 by giving money...

[grizzled aspen]

This is pathetic man please stop making your L's public.

[copper hawk]

...to the merchants

[frosty herald]

also using quell cancel to damage farm

[sterile stone]

Bro people will cheat in any game they can

People cheat in hello kitty games

[copper hawk]

So i can sell all the shit i loot off of corpses

[stone fern]

i dont care its single player

[copper hawk]

Number go up !

[sterile stone]

[grizzled aspen]

This is like the only acceptable way to cheat by giving yourself money.

[frosty herald]

you guys are genuinely clueless

[copper hawk]

Dont be surprised w this clad revelation he mains rashad

[sterile stone]

When was the last time you bathe hmmmm

[stone fern]

i dont wanna spend 8 hours killing pigs in witcher to sell their meat for 1k gold

[grizzled aspen]

Martyr rashad.

[sullen forge]

Not even heavy sword...

sigh...

[frosty herald]

you guys havent seen the fact THAT OGRYN gETS MULTIPLE DAMAGE RESISTANCE TALENTS

[sterile stone]

Out here calling people out

[grizzled aspen]

HUNT. MONSTERS.

DO YOUR JOB.

YOU ARE A FUCKING WITCHER.

[sullen forge]

STACKED ON TOP OF THICK SKIN!!!!

[stone fern]

i did

[copper hawk]

Yah wr have

[placid fiber]

Just watch out... the bull butcher light bleed spam train might start

[stone fern]

i finished the game twice

[copper hawk]

We've been yapping about it for hours

[stone fern]

crafting costs too much

[grizzled aspen]

Dude I'm just so hyped to play with poke knife and it actually be good.

[copper hawk]

It's literslly dragging me through shift

[frosty herald]

TANKGRYN IS REAL

[modern lintel]

yknow they were actually talking abt nerfing getting as much money as you can in kuttenberg other day

[stone fern]

taking off a rune is 9000 trillion gold

[placid fiber]

fair

[obsidian prairie]

I just realized they didn’t touch power maul

[frosty herald]

fun fact if you arent dumb

[sterile stone]

Balkan state of mind, if it cost more than a packet of salt, it must be aquired by other means

[grizzled aspen]

It's cheaper to scrap the item and start over noob.

You get your runes back.

[frosty herald]

grey weapons that drop from enemies in the dlcs sell for 100+ gold each

[copper hawk]

I laughed at somethin Argus said..

I may be washed..

[stone fern]

nah

[grizzled aspen]

And you could also just not fucking put runes you don't want in your items.

[violet hornet]

Clad ultimate baiting chat rn

[stone fern]

its MY time

[sullen forge]

Alright so we get to say this now about ogryn

Heavy Hitter - Damage farming baby build
Feel No Pain - Damage Reduction abusing noob
BLO - Babys first veteran build

[stone fern]

i dont wanna waste time looting and selling slop

[violet hornet]

Just like when he shills the helm

[copper hawk]

BLO

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/chuvisco-gray-screen-no-signal-drizzle-static-gif-17777219

[grizzled aspen]

Bait would imply it's not what he actually does.

[copper hawk]

BLO me u dork

[stone fern]

just imagine i looted and sold the slop

[copper hawk]

Heh

Pwned

[sterile stone]

But actually saving up to get the stuff is half the fun

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimple-pun-puns-sea-puns-shark-my-words-gif-27141528

[stone fern]

giving myself the gold and skipping the looting saves time

[frosty herald]

you already know im making a damage resistance ranged ogryn build that exclusively uses grenade gauntlet

[stone fern]

i enjoyed the game a lot

[grizzled aspen]

Dude did you realize that the back off node for blo is basically fucking weapon spec?

[copper hawk]

Just gonna play oggy

Better zeal

[frosty herald]

we get a goddamn hordeclear loop for grenade gauntlet

[stone fern]

the slop selling not so much

[copper hawk]

W build variety

[sullen forge]

Yeah I know

[copper hawk]

A mostly taxless trrr

Tree*

[sullen forge]

its why I see this Update as literally

[placid fiber]

BLO... B.L.O ... Bacon Lettuce and Omelete?

[violet hornet]

Hordeclear gloop

[stone fern]

i am not baiting

[sullen forge]

Ogryn is now better Veteran/Zealot

mainly more Zealot now

[frosty herald]

faster reload more ammo more magazine size in the grenade gauntlet

[stone fern]

I CHEAT in single player games

[copper hawk]

Gloooooop mentioned

[sterile stone]

Gun lugger back on them menu

[grizzled aspen]

I'm just so happy about the big man getting good shit man.

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

480 interlaced bait

[grizzled aspen]

He was so sad to play before.

[frosty herald]

ive tried very hard to get grenade gauntlet to work but its outshined by most other weapons

[copper hawk]

Return of bb3 supremacy

[stone fern]

the dodge passive is HUGE

[grizzled aspen]

GG is actually quite fun, you can 2shot reapers with it in live rn.

[frosty herald]

burn stacks on explosions will turn me into a maniac

[sterile stone]

Dead ass I've just only used Shieldgryn after ripper got nerfed

[stone fern]

next zealot should get TWBS by default

[violet hornet]

Excited to see the new pa + light follow up ngl

[modern lintel]

gun lugger ripper gun might actually be p good now faster ripper gun brace speed doubling its ammo i think i saw a like 70% reload speed buff node

[obsidian prairie]

90% of games will have two ogryn’s or more

We did it

[copper hawk]

Troo..

[violet hornet]

Everything else is a damage magnet honestly

[grizzled aspen]

The only thing I'm concerned with is that they said both of these things about clubs.

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-frieza-dbz-dragon-ball-z-boxing-gif-26574924

how im pulling up with the grenade gauntlet

[grizzled aspen]

So did they just change damage falloff math or are they lying about target caps being removed?

[nimble fiber]

[grizzled aspen]

I'm curious to see if you can oneshot a crusher with it when the update drops.

[frosty herald]

you will 100% can

theres no rending talent changes

[misty nova]

See it says light relentless

[frosty herald]

fun fact

[misty nova]

But the cap is basically on sweeping heavies

So idk

[frosty herald]

the grenade gauntlet special is changed to be strikedown

[grizzled aspen]

Yes I saw.

I'm curious to see how that will change breakpoints.

[frosty herald]

i will try to get a oneshot

[grizzled aspen]

It seems like it'll actually be super useful now.

[sullen forge]

GG builds are so cool but holy fuck they're abysmal dogshit right now

[frosty herald]

grenade gauntlet is now amazing for hordeclear

[sullen forge]

melee GG builds to be exact

[grizzled aspen]

I'm already thinking about cooking a glugger build with poke knife and gg.

I wonder if gg special can proc lucky bullet.

[frosty herald]

the special on GG is now also affected by blast radius

[sullen forge]

Most likely

its considered ranged as well

[modern lintel]

lugger gg over rumbler is definitely a choice

[carmine falcon]

brother is gonna turn into demo from kf2

[stone fern]

dont forget crunch now behaving like thrust with STACKS

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah but it's only 15% damage now.

[frosty herald]

im just gonna say that the incendiary stacks on explosions will buff GG so hard

[stone fern]

perfectly fine

[obsidian prairie]

That almost doubles thrust

[placid fiber]

wouldn't that make thrust even more effective, though?

[grizzled aspen]

No???

Unless it's base damage?

[obsidian prairie]

When combined with thrust it’s almost double

[carmine falcon]

chad WOWIE THIS IS GONNA BE FUN vs virgin stats nerd

[modern lintel]

hold on is the rending/fire node on lugger only applied on direct hits w gg and rumbler or is anyone that takes dmg in its explosion radius

[obsidian prairie]

I think

[sterile stone]

@stone fern I have a question

[obsidian prairie]

Unless the max is 15% and I misread

[stone fern]

yeah

[grizzled aspen]

Listen man I'm just trying to think about how efficient ogryn will be against crushers.

[sterile stone]

Have you or anyone related to you just sat on the couch and eaten a bell pepper whole?

[misty nova]

Current one? Only ranged

[grizzled aspen]

I'm pretty sure it caps at 15% but I'll go double check.

[placid fiber]

I mean... at 15% it is not that far off

[misty nova]

Next one probably all hit

[sterile stone]

Just curious

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, I love eating bell peppers.

[sterile stone]

Nah

I mean like

Fresh bellpeppers

Like just bite straight into it

[grizzled aspen]

Yes?

[hard nexus]

oh my god

[grizzled aspen]

OH

[modern lintel]

rending flame bleed rumbler is real

[hard nexus]

dclaw mk1 got buffed

[stone fern]

raw? no but sliced and dtipped into stuff yeah

[hard nexus]

BUT NOT FUCKING MK3 EVIS

[grizzled aspen]

YOU MEAN EAT IT LIKE AN APPLE

[grizzled aspen]

ANIMAL

[sterile stone]

I must show you

[sullen forge]

It did

[grizzled aspen]

No thanks I don't wanna.

[sullen forge]

in a small sense

[sterile stone]

I heard balkans eating just hwole peppers is a thing

[frosty herald]

Your Explosions apply 1 Stack(s) of Burn, increased to 2 Stack(s) on close explosion. Max Stacks 12.

[sullen forge]

Special interactions can no longer be canceled from mantling or being stunnned @hard nexus

[stone fern]

its ok final release should have more stuff

never lose hope

[nimble fiber]

have u recorded yourself eating a bell pepper like an apple?

if so I wanna se

[stone fern]

then crashout when ur crushed

[grizzled aspen]

Listen we will have our buffs when we get our talent tree reworked.

[sullen forge]

so you can literally spam Bloodthirsty M1 gameplay without needing the one talent

[grizzled aspen]

(Copium)

[hard nexus]

ogryn is going to be like

psyker level now

lmfao

god damnit

[placid fiber]

oh hey, I wonder if you can dodge bursters/trappers/snipers with this now...

[frosty herald]

yes

[hard nexus]

this one confused me

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[sullen forge]

hey at least you guys will be next

[obsidian prairie]

Reddit is going to go fucking insane

[sullen forge]

seeing you guys are the next most complained about class so thats a given

[sterile stone]

I could never

[hard nexus]

because zealot charge doesn’t dodge nets but it does count as dodge frames

[stone fern]

i just want TWBS to be default without the movespeed ofc

[nimble fiber]

all this buildup

for NOTHING

[hard nexus]

also this change is insane

[grizzled aspen]

It's good.

[stone fern]

(frees up one point)

[hard nexus]

it should be 50% CDR

[grizzled aspen]

I'm happy with it.

[sterile stone]

@stone fern https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aqZaEOqOFUE

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway gonna go play terraria with a shit eating grin while thinking of cursed builds on ogryn.

[nimble fiber]

argus turn into a soviet dad

[sterile stone]

I can't grow mustache

Or grow bald

[nimble fiber]

there are ways

[violet hornet]

Honestly it's better than people think

[stone fern]

oh yeah perfectly normal behavior

[violet hornet]

Granted I have never eaten a whole big one like that, just the little ones that come in a bag

[hard nexus]

@serene hearth

is the nets part a typo? zealot charge also counts as dodging, yet you can still get trapped mid charge

[nimble fiber]

god damnit

[violet hornet]

Raw peppers on a salad pretty good

[violet hornet]

Don't worry bro I will eat your peppers and olives for you

[full nebula]

@spare talon No taxe buff this time

[violet hornet]

I did think that shit was weird when someone first offered me a raw one but was pleasantly surprised

[placid fiber]

wait did they just make these pocket confident strikes for light spam weapons?

[sullen forge]

yes

[full nebula]

even moreso because they increased weapon swap speeds

[sullen forge]

they're encouraging actual light melee combos

[violet hornet]

I order pizzas with pepperoni, green peppers, and black olives

[hard nexus]

ogryn is going to be

insanely fucking strong

[nimble fiber]

everything good but the last part

[hard nexus]

the powercreep continues

[sullen forge]

You'll be busted next

I hate to say it meow

[full nebula]

Barely any human weapon buffs though

[sullen forge]

Zealot rework 2033

you'll be busted next

[hard nexus]

i know and it makes me sad

[violet hornet]

I do be eating green olives right out the jar tho

[sullen forge]

and then Veteran might be

[frosty herald]

Somehow ogryn players will still not be able to clear havoc 40

[sullen forge]

unsure

[hard nexus]

ogryn rn is just a better zealot

[fleet zealot]

it's 15% per stack

[hard nexus]

sad!

[fleet zealot]

up to 3 stacks

not 15% max

[sullen forge]

Correction zealot and veteran

[hard nexus]

i fucking hate autocorrect

[fleet zealot]

confirmed via ogryn chat

[sullen forge]

have you seen batter?

[grizzled aspen]

Oh then crunch is gonna be fucking huge.

[sullen forge]

and BLO has Weapon Specialist nodes but like

[hard nexus]

lmfao fucking christ

[sullen forge]

even more impactful

[hard nexus]

straw hat hasn’t responded to my ping…….

[violet hornet]

Gotta say it's a little weird seeing the ogryn weapon buffs with no change to Paul

[grizzled aspen]

Ogryn can now get

thrust on every weaon
parry everything with no stamina impacts
iod style cdr
diet weapon spec

[hard nexus]

lmfao yeah

[sullen forge]

not needed ngl

[carmine falcon]

nerf.......ogryn

[sullen forge]

talents will carry the thing

[placid fiber]

cough kickback/rumbler talent

[hard nexus]

shouldn’t be needed

[misty nova]

It's because they buffed paul a while ago

[hard nexus]

this update makes me frown

[sullen forge]

Batter = better serrated edge
BLO = WS but with even more QOL to it

[misty nova]

But it's a hybrid weapon

[hard nexus]

currently frown maxxing

[full nebula]

Might be because they changed Pmaul last time. That said its still under performing

[violet hornet]

Is it not the worst oggy melee now?

[misty nova]

Current heavies are slow and current tree doesn't support lights

[sullen forge]

Ogryn fucking Deadlifting Zealot and Veteran cause who needs those two classes now amirite?

[misty ravine]

Something about blowing batter

[misty nova]

So it's underperforming rn

[frosty herald]

5 frag bombs with vet

[full nebula]

I think we're missing the highlight though. Replenish rocks every 5 seconds

[tropic garnet]

Thunderous and skullcrusher seem like two good blessings

[grizzled aspen]

Zealout chat will be punished for this...

[hard nexus]

skullcrusher is, thunderous isn’t

[sullen forge]

The one thing outside of Voc spam keeping veteran insanely relevant after this patch drop

[violet hornet]

Straight back to no image perms slow mode for the pervert class

[tropic garnet]

Why not Thunderous ? Makes them dizzy

[undone pewter]

I think some of you are overthinking this a little

[misty ravine]

Psyker + Ogryn just MasterBlastering their way through H40

[grizzled aspen]

Dude, remember, we will now be able to spam rocks into burgle pimple forever.

[hard nexus]

because other impact blessings do the job better

[grizzled aspen]

Rocks replenish on weakspot.

[carmine falcon]

its ok guys the power creep is just to prepare the next patch where nomal damnation is havoc 40

[hard nexus]

also most weapons don’t need an impact blessings

[tropic garnet]

Like Hammerblow ?

[hard nexus]

yeah

[sullen forge]

OR ON MISS

YOU LITERALLY CANT FUCK IT UP BRO

[grizzled aspen]

I KNOW ITS SO GOOD

[hard nexus]

that change is def for the controller players

[grizzled aspen]

OGRYN EATING LIKE A KING

[full nebula]

Ogryns bouta be sniping specials even more

[hard nexus]

but zealot tknives r OP guys

[sullen forge]

doing vets job

[full nebula]

[carmine falcon]

wait huh
how did this make it past playtesting

[sullen forge]

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED NICE THINGS!!!!

[violet hornet]

Ogryn hurling 15 rocks in 8 seconds against the gunner swarm be like

[tropic garnet]

Yep

[carmine falcon]

miss
regen

[sullen forge]

hit weakspot

[carmine falcon]

where is risk and reward

[sullen forge]

regen

[hard nexus]

nono its balanced because it has a 3s cooldown

[sullen forge]

marmot...

[carmine falcon]

mutie congalines gonna get rocked to oblivion

[tropic garnet]

Slaughterer and headtaker seem like the no brain damage bonus, nearly 65% bonus "permanently" as long as you fight and kill

[full nebula]

Gonna be fun pelting pogryn in the head constantly

[hard nexus]

“strength” (or power), increases damage, cleave, and stagger

so yeah

they’re BiS in almost all cases

[obsidian prairie]

Oh my gods you can play dbarrel weapon spec on ogryn

[sullen forge]

yes...

[tropic garnet]

Considering this, Thrust seem better (especially since I use the charged attack a lot)

[sullen forge]

this is why I keep saying Zealot AND veteran

[placid fiber]

holy fuck this is the 1st time in god knows now long I've seen something...

[obsidian prairie]

I’m fucking doing it

It’s going to be so funny

[frosty herald]

Actual smg now lol

[sullen forge]

finesse to that much

oh wow that-

[frosty herald]

Gale

Dont forget

[hard nexus]

thrust stacks slowly, and is really only good on thunder hammer for crusher breakpoints

it can work on dueling sword, but it gets outperformed

[frosty herald]

Autopistol damage fucking sucks

[sullen forge]

actually might make them good on a MF vet

[frosty herald]

So the finesse boost is needed

[misty ravine]

It's also got a pretty big random spread

[placid fiber]

It might actually be useful with piety too <.<

[modern lintel]

i dont care who they send im not making a MF build

[tropic garnet]

Ye sorry for not saying it earlier, the build is for a thunder hammer, hence my "focus" on impact and stuff

[sullen forge]

I will straight up show you the combo that makes MF actually bareable to play

[carmine falcon]

straight up shitting on fotf

[frosty herald]

Yknow whats the craziest thing

[hard nexus]

take slaughterer and thrust, carapace unyielding

[frosty herald]

Run and gun is not an autopistol blessing

[sullen forge]

lets kill them

[misty ravine]

Should have been inherent from the start

[tropic garnet]

Already had those perks, thanks for the tip

[placid fiber]

that might not be a massive increase for the autopistol, but, about mother fucking goddamn time!

[hard nexus]

FoTF at least can tank bursters? i think that’s the only thing that FoTF has over charge then

[violet hornet]

Crouch moving and getting mf penance with melee before never using it again my beloved

[modern lintel]

fotf also is an insta toughness bank

[carmine falcon]

ignore fire from flamers and just iframe everything too ig

but yeah

[hard nexus]

flamer fire too maybe

i’m not sure

i’ll have to test it when the update comes out

[modern lintel]

all the ogryn drip i bought will finally be paid off

[carmine falcon]

i dont think anyone is gonna dare pointing out some of the broken talents in ogryn chat

they'd get pummled

the big lads there are literally going

[misty nova]

Perfect block gets a cool down

Shadow nerfed

Calling it

[placid fiber]

It's gonna be funny when I watch an ogryn who got good at perfect blocking stuff just taking a knife and perfect blocking several crushers

[hard nexus]

yam is talking about perfect block rn in it

[modern lintel]

waiting to see if i see a tanner lindberg video pop up of him losing his mind that ogryn might be the best class now

[placid fiber]

the 16 snipers who have you while you are at -5 dodges and backed into a corner and your career is on cd:

(doesn't matter the class tho lol)

[modern lintel]

untill death wishes you well

[placid fiber]

it would... but its on cd too cuz fuck the player

[copper hawk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xhlMAuJ7jaE?si=DSTm30jP80L3lf1o mythical yt shorts pull

[full nebula]

Just had an ogryn melee a burster and put me down with splash damage. Then he instantly got trapped and we wiped.

He also had 4 wounds and stole the only heal with 1 wound gone. Meanwhile I had a splash of health and was half corrupted.

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-tussiniiduk32-gif-27701794

[prisma magnet]

Is this the zealot chat? Or is it the ogryn chat now with the update notes?

[misty nova]

This is zealot chat
We talk about everything but zealot

[full nebula]

Every chat goes offtopic all the time

[misty nova]

Unless you ask about builds

[rough edge]

THUNDER HAMMER DOESN'T RESET ON VAULT OR STUN

I AM FREE

[full nebula]

Just got kicked by Dorn and his minions

[violet hornet]

Vet had hellbore stab time increased by .1 seconds for two marks, prepare for review bombing

[modern lintel]

chat should i buy steaks for dinner

[full nebula]

yes

microwave them

[placid fiber]

we talk about everything: darktide, the weather in canada, toilets, furries, potatoes, etc

[fleet zealot]

ogryn is relative to zealot

[placid fiber]

oh and ferrets

[fleet zealot]

so comparisons are unavoidable

[carmine falcon]

yes

[rough edge]

and sometimes opossums

[fleet zealot]

like the changes we got is, shredder might be good enough to use now with duelist and anoint+ piety

[placid fiber]

nah, get the roasted duck

[fleet zealot]

and dclaw might be a bit better

[violet hornet]

People joining the discord and commenting on zealot chat not exclusively talking about zealot:
The cycle continues

[fleet zealot]

even tho it's a buff if you go anything on right side lol

[modern lintel]

i prefer pan seared med rare duck to roasted or peking

[violet hornet]

WS vet is a myth, only shouty vet exists

[fleet zealot]

omg they nerfed bayonet on the 2 fastest stabbing helbores?

[fleet zealot]

por que los dos?

[placid fiber]

Anything, ey?

[fleet zealot]

exaggerating

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/femtanyl-femtanyl-friday-dinner-femtanyl-picmix-silly-gif-5555243927730014157

[misty nova]

Crazy right

Windup by 0.1

It's so over

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1344153404552908860/hilbert.gif

[fleet zealot]

if you have trench fighter drill and use weapon specialist you get 25% attack speed

so i think it comes out to a net gain

[placid fiber]

I mean... you're not wrong... one of the worst options is probably this one lol

[sullen forge]

Yeah it would be a small but noticeable positive

[fleet zealot]

you'll have to QQ to actually proc melee specialist but the buff lasts 10 seconds

[copper hawk]

Kid named recon lasgun

[sullen forge]

I think they're trying to encourage the IV's Slashing Bayonet

[fleet zealot]

ogryn rework skill tree live

on gameslantern

[placid fiber]

So the opposite of what I do to get a free revolver reload?

[frosty herald]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[fleet zealot]

yes

[frosty herald]

Btw

[misty nova]

Not good with Helbys draw speed

[placid fiber]

I never thought about abusing the attack speed tbh lol

[frosty herald]

There were changes made that couldnt be put into the forum post cause it was locked for edditing

[prisma magnet]

I wanted to ask about dueling sword blessings. I've been using agile and riposte cuz I saw that somewhere (i don't remember where), but I also feel like agile might be a meme. I don't kill crushers or bosses as fast as I see other people doing it. And the infinite dodges I get from agile are giving me a bad habit when i play other weapons

[frosty herald]

The build editor is more up to date

[copper hawk]

Agile is a meme

Ur correct

Precog and uncanny or precog riposte

[placid fiber]

uh... agile is just for making the 2 brain cell ds play into 1 brain cell ds play

[copper hawk]

If u run piety u dont need riposte

[prisma magnet]

I run piety ye

[placid fiber]

isn't it precog and thrust/uncanny(for piety)?

[prisma magnet]

So with piety what's the setup?

[placid fiber]

oh wait ds4 doesn't need uncanny technically

[copper hawk]

Precog uncanny/thrust

[prisma magnet]

Thx

[copper hawk]

Unyielding w/e else

Use the one of two builds we have w piety

[placid fiber]

20% block efficiency:

10% groaner/poxwalker damage:

25% infested damage:

10% specialists damage:

(don't take those)

[grizzled aspen]

Weakspot/crit damage:

[fleet zealot]

correction

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[placid fiber]

[fleet zealot]

apparently crunch was originally 15% x 3 stacks

[placid fiber]

at least it would do more than infested damage...

[fleet zealot]

but has been nerfed to be 5% per stack up to 15%

[copper hawk]

Good

[fleet zealot]

because it was really OP with any thrust weapon

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[fleet zealot]

#blamehank /j

[placid fiber]

45% damage with 60% power is quite a lot >.>

[grizzled aspen]

So its not gonna be dropped with what the dev blog has it stated as?

Like it's gonna cap out at 15% damage?

[fleet zealot]

just like the talent tree update, or zealot IoD changes

it will be tweaked before launch

[prisma magnet]

Messing around with the ranged weapon too, tried out the double barrel yesterday due to the suggestion of someone here and liked it. But still wanna try other options too. Boltgun cool, recon lasgun nice, flamer cool but kinda clumsy, bolt pistol feels like mini boltgun and kinda worse, dunno if there's something else that's good i haven't tried yet

[placid fiber]

At the very least it's just icing on the thrust attack, at worst you just don't take it

[fleet zealot]

as more feedback comes in, and this will likely attract most of the testers to really fine tune ogryn

[grizzled aspen]

15% base damage is still nothing to sneeze at.

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[grizzled aspen]

That's breakpoint changing territory.

[fleet zealot]

yea it's completely optional to grab

[placid fiber]

15% damage can get you a lot of breakpoints

[fleet zealot]

bistol is for quick drawing with a more reliable magazine than revolver, it's not the some role as bolter

bolter is our mag dumper

[carmine falcon]

bolt pistol doesnt deal as much dmg as boltgun but has fater reload, faster switching and faster mobility

[copper hawk]

Bolter is a bad pick for the ds

They cover the same niche

You want something that covers a weakness

[grizzled aspen]

Bistol has a very clearly defined role for zealout, and thats to be a stat stick to get instant scourge value.

[copper hawk]

A flamer is recommended

[prisma magnet]

Yeah that's what i felt like when using the bolter

[misty nova]

Take throwing knives with flamer
Animation skip that clumsy

[grizzled aspen]

(animation skipping it not super necessary)

[prisma magnet]

The flamer feels like it covers the ds weaknesses perfectly, but it's weird and clumsy. I do animation skip the draw with throwing knife, but the firing animation also feels clunky and slow idk

[grizzled aspen]

Are you using m1?

Like, puffing it?

[prisma magnet]

No, I do the full flame thingy

[copper hawk]

Flames have a deceptively long range

Engage at a distance

[placid fiber]

and can melt massive elite groups

[copper hawk]

It melts everything

Overpressure blaze away

[placid fiber]

Crushers:

[copper hawk]

Flak unyielding/unarmored

[prisma magnet]

I only puff if the horde is kinda close, then I puff once and then start the real torrent

[copper hawk]

Two puffs is the same amount of time it wouldve taken to right click and fire

Just keep dodging

[prisma magnet]

Right

[copper hawk]

Dodge slide backwards, tknife cancel draw speed, burn everything

It also deals suppression with the real flames as well

Like instantly

So rlly no point in puffing

Dump stat is damage

Unironically

[prisma magnet]

Really? I hàve one mobility dumped, should i get another one then? For extra dodge distance

[copper hawk]

Damage dealt by the flamer is through dot

[placid fiber]

It's almost like, hear me out: When someone sets you on fucking fire with the fire of a flamethrower... you kinda don't feel like standing there...

[copper hawk]

Which is determined by the Burn stat

The only damage the Damage stat covers is first targrt damage

The difference between 80 and 60 in Damage is less than a point of damage

[placid fiber]

damage is like 1dps from 60% to 80% for the flamer

It's extremely low

[prisma magnet]

I see i see

[copper hawk]

The only stat that makes or breaks a flamer is Burn

It must be greater than or equal to 76

[prisma magnet]

I'll get a new flamer then, that's easy enough

[placid fiber]

cough cloud radius COUGH

:3

[placid fiber]

[prisma magnet]

Can just gacha it on the armory, no biggie

But yeah, I wanna get good with the flamer so I'll keep grinding it a bit more

[frosty herald]

Burn determines how many incendiary stacks you can have

If you hit the cap or not

[placid fiber]

Yep, u gotta burn people with da flamer

[misty ravine]

Burninating the underhive
Burninating the heretics

[prisma magnet]

Is there any other weapon that works well with dueling sword tho? I know flamer covers the weaknesses best, but I wanna try stuff out, so give me some suggestions please

[tropic garnet]

When you are at 4/10 auric mission witout dying, but then you reach the 5th and things go real bad, no ammo, no health (1pt), and you die because of a kick

Depressing

But, new chances will arose

[grizzled aspen]

Just flamer. (you should try not using ds)

[full nebula]

bolter

[acoustic dune]

is the overhaul out or smth?

[grizzled aspen]

Just dev blog.

Patch drops the 25th, iirc.

[sullen forge]

I want you to know that

[acoustic dune]

mmh

[sullen forge]

me and my friend said yeah lets see what the new tree is like tax wise

Ogryn has SO MUCH to work with holy shit

[acoustic dune]

can someone give me the tldr of it?

[sullen forge]

like I barely feel point tax

[acoustic dune]

what did the dev say

[fleet zealot]

read it

[frozen kernel]

It’s so much knify

YUGE changelog

[fleet zealot]

it's pages

[frosty herald]

I already built a build for grenade gauntlet

[frozen kernel]

Fucking autocorrect

[prisma magnet]

Yeah yeah i know, meme 1 braincell weapon that takes no effort, I've ghosted this chat long enough. This is a pve game, I don't care the weapon is op, I like how it looks and plays. Plus, I do use other stuff, evis is fun, relic is fun, but ds is just kinda more fun tbh

[acoustic dune]

huge like a ogryn?

or a dwarf

[grizzled aspen]

Ogryn now has

thrust on all attacks
can parry overheads without taking damage or losing stamina
blo is diet weapon spec
everything melee oriented now has light attack functionality
pbb slightly nerfed but deserved

[sullen forge]

I remade his Ogrynheimer build in a thereotical stance

[grizzled aspen]

And thats not all.

[fleet zealot]

the new talent tree is on gameslantern

[sullen forge]

2 points to spare on literally anything he wishes

[fleet zealot]

ogrynheimer

no nuke?

[frozen kernel]

Huge like many skaven in a ball rolling around like that one scene in Pirates 3

[sullen forge]

we fry PC's with the Box

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[sullen forge]

@fleet zealot Fun fact we did a Nuke version

[carmine falcon]

does bro even have weaknesses anymore god damn

[grizzled aspen]

TOTAL FRAMERATE DEATH

[sullen forge]

2 more points to spare

[grizzled aspen]

CRASH PATH'S GAME

[sullen forge]

so you go from 28 with Box

[grizzled aspen]

(his computer shits itself when a box is thrown)

[sullen forge]

to 26 with nuke

[acoustic dune]

i dont have the ref

[misty ravine]

UNLIMITED ROCKS

[modern lintel]

iv not been able to get gameslantern build editor to work for a while for some reason

[frosty herald]

I legit took all 5 new talents under the blitzes lmao

DR is so busted youd have to not want DR to not take them

[obsidian prairie]

New ogryn builds look visually kinda weird

[grizzled aspen]

To put it in perspective, take the broken-ness of psyker's new tree, then crank it up to 11.

[acoustic dune]

why so?

[grizzled aspen]

There's so much shit and so many qol improvements.

[obsidian prairie]

Idk

They just feel weird to look at

[acoustic dune]

o my

[grizzled aspen]

You can go sideways now.

[fleet zealot]

too many choices

like vet tree

[obsidian prairie]

Ogryn goes fucking nuts though

[grizzled aspen]

Look at the tree.

[fleet zealot]

there is a lot of good shit but you can't have it all

[fleet zealot]

I want zealot rework NOW

god damn

[sullen forge]

I wont lie this might be the new Bread and Butter Talent @grizzled aspen

[fleet zealot]

that's drooling

[sullen forge]

if its ANY damage

toughness and HP etc

you literally get buffed

[carmine falcon]

actual build variety in my skill tree wot da hyll

[frozen kernel]

I’m scared for what zealot rework might look like

[obsidian prairie]

Good on them for making the weapon spec lite not and confirm crit node for BlO exclusive

[sullen forge]

for sitting near your team

[grizzled aspen]

We will become absolute fucking monsters, I'm calling it now.

[acoustic dune]

jesus christ
look like what a vet and psycher skill tree had a baby

[grizzled aspen]

Psyker tree rework will look like a tea party.

[sullen forge]

Veteran drying up into a prune from power creep at that point

[obsidian prairie]

Oh it’s both I read it as hp

[frosty herald]

Damage and DR

[misty nova]

Me purposely getting hit so I can buff big guy
(My team thinks I'm trolling)

[obsidian prairie]

Then yeah holy shit free damage for playing game

[grizzled aspen]

Smh yall have had like 4 tree reworks.

[obsidian prairie]

Even better with shitty teams

[drifting hinge]

No need

[acoustic dune]

imagine the last overhaul would be zealot skill tree

[sullen forge]

MAKE IT 7

[frozen kernel]

They’ll change something they didn’t think was important and we’ll either shatter like glass or become ridiculously OP

[drifting hinge]

Ogryn shooting barrels near teammates to get buff meta.

[grizzled aspen]

KERFUS IN ZEALOUT CHAT

WHAT

[drifting hinge]

[grizzled aspen]

WHY ARE YOU HERE SIR

[misty nova]

Love how they put big frag on center

[drifting hinge]

I came here to flex our superior tree.

[acoustic dune]

who is kerfus?

[misty nova]

[frosty herald]

Theyre already tweaking ogryn btw

[sullen forge]

I need to state this right now

[frozen kernel]

Woah guest appearance

[frosty herald]

Some talents already getting merfs cause thsyre stupid busted

[frozen kernel]

Wassup big man

[grizzled aspen]

I'm just so happy yall have good stuff now.

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah our shit sucks I hope we’re next

[drifting hinge]

True, true.

[carmine falcon]

zealot turning into a glass cannon would be put me off hard
i like playing like a tanky berserker dont take that away from me

[obsidian prairie]

New ogryn tree is fucking amazing though

[drifting hinge]

Ogryn is eating so well even us don't have to ask for seconds.

[sullen forge]

This being 3 points away from batter

is so fucking busted

[frozen kernel]

“No, veteran players need a new weapon”

[acoustic dune]

imagine you jsut juinx it and we are the last one to get a rework

[sullen forge]

YOU GET TO DELETE CARAPACE WITH ANYTHING

[obsidian prairie]

Can’t wait to play weapon spec dbarrel ogryn

[sullen forge]

WITH THIS COMBO

[frosty herald]

Uhh wasnt it 2????

[grizzled aspen]

YES YES YES YES YES

[frosty herald]

They buffed it even more

[drifting hinge]

Ogryn body-checking trash mobs.

[sullen forge]

Slam + Strike True are in the way of pathing

[frozen kernel]

I would like them to find a way to make both possible. Have glass cannon knife zealot be viable, but also keep Marty in some capacity for tankier builds who can eat attacks with thrust

[sullen forge]

but they're BOTH FUCKING GOOD

[drifting hinge]

Ogryn in DODGE state when charging.

[sullen forge]

REALLY GOOD

[grizzled aspen]

POKE KNIFE GONNA GO SO FUCKING HARD

[obsidian prairie]

Btw you can unselect your aura on gameslatern after taking stuff below

Auraless build confirmed????!!

[misty nova]

Push into uppercut into light Strikedown loop
Yup found my cleaver 6 single target combo

[frozen kernel]

Imagine having no aura

[acoustic dune]

god i wanna see a skill for ogryn where a dodge is just a charge

[frozen kernel]

Couldn’t be us

[sullen forge]

@frosty herald this is whats in the way

and its so fucking strong