#zealot-class

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hushed knoll
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NO STOP

sterile stone
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Staring at a spectator screen doesn't make anyone better

hushed knoll
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But you should stay with the team

mighty root
cobalt willow
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im wonderin if i should go with cara-unyielding for my relic blade or if i should go with cara-mani as my perks

long oasis
full nebula
cobalt willow
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maulers crushers and bulwarks are always hard to deal with

rough edge
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Whats the best horde clear weapon for fast horde clearing

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I need the stun storm penance and shit

cobalt willow
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relic blade

plush estuary
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flamer

full nebula
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Crusher

plush estuary
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flamer is the only zealot weapon with infinite cleave

cobalt willow
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charged relic blade melts a horde, cause it has enuff cleave

sullen forge
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There is another… (it’s abysmal dogshit)

long oasis
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SHREDDER AUTOPISTOL

sullen forge
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Forgot what variant

cobalt willow
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braced autogun? that one recon lasgun?

long oasis
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@plush estuary rimworld :o

sullen forge
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Kantrael?

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DB rounds

long oasis
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I love that game

sullen forge
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Combat Shotty

rough edge
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just met an ogryn with 98 total toughness at level 30

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💀

sullen forge
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Strongest Ogryn player

sullen forge
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Woundgryn

plush estuary
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Had a pub 40 hav ogryn with 45 toughness

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shrimple as

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left as soon as he went down

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(1st elite gunner)

placid fiber
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I have 2 diamonds and I can get an upgrade thingy... but I feel like I want to wait until I have 1 more for this one

undone pewter
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Hang on let me show my favourite pubgryn vid

nimble fiber
rough edge
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isn't the base ogryns toughness like 50??

plush estuary
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havoc 40 is like -60% toughess?

rough edge
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Oo

plush estuary
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or 40%

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forgor

solemn cliff
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I thought it was a loss of flat

solemn cliff
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And then your % increase happens after the loss of flat.

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Which is why the +15 or +25 bonuses are so effective in that game mode.

placid fiber
# plush estuary or 40%

and it affects toughness from curios/etc as well... unlike the health one, which you still get the full amount of bonus hp

rough edge
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@plush estuary

Would you recommend like unarmoured binus dmg on the flamer specifically to get the stun storm penance?

placid fiber
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Wow... great 1st boon for damage/utility... <.<'

plush estuary
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blessing perks dont matter

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refer to pins for flamer setup for normal play

rough edge
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alright

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what map to do it on hm

plush estuary
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mercentile

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the brick wall you can blow up

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after the 1st wall its infinite horde

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dont blow up 2nd door that stops the spawns

rough edge
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let them all group up then stun storm then flamer?

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splendid

carmine falcon
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wtf ill do this too

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i need that one done cause its 39/40

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abysmal dogshit

rough edge
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I hate the stun nade so much but I just need the two stun penances for steam 100%

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(plus dream team but that will take forever in general)

undone pewter
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Hrm could you use that for frenzied killer (is that what it's called the 120 kills in 30 seconds one)

rough edge
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yeah I can also try to snag that for free too here

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just taking an auric maelstrum to via MMT

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lets do this

carmine falcon
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if u wanna do this outside a private game u gotta let people know kek_k1

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they'll blow up second charge asap otherwise

rough edge
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yeah I am doing private

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me and three bots

fleet zealot
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baby

rough edge
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just gonna let em all pile up till I can't see the floor

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got it

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now for the other more annoying one

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stunning a sniper from over 40m away

long oasis
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must be genetic

rough edge
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I need an open make that lets me like, throw it far and I don't want vent purge hm

fleet zealot
rough edge
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@plush estuary Do you know if any maps have a guaranteed Sniper?

plush estuary
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spawns 4 snipers

rough edge
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Sweet, do you know if it is big enough area to throw a stun nade from over 40m away?

plush estuary
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yes

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stand on the double chest

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and throw opposite side

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should be around ~60 meters

rough edge
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ty ty

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I will have almost all zealot penances after this

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I need the flames and private party one

fleet zealot
median steeple
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sleeeb

hexed igloo
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Nah that's mb I swung for no reason

long oasis
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swing again bro ill show you goofy from birth

sterile stone
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But that shit was funny

hexed igloo
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I'm funny like sometimes

hexed igloo
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I think I'm like a 3/10 on the funny scale most of the time but I can sometimes pull out a fire oneliner

brisk raft
long oasis
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you cant stop me

hexed igloo
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Hey lil bro leave that for me to decide

brisk raft
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Get down with the morning sickness

fleet zealot
rough edge
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@plush estuary

I snagged it

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I was lucky enough that in the long hallway there was a sniper so I just backed to the other side and threw it

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Now to just

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burn a lotta things

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So is the evic like the heavy version of the chainsword

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Similar to force sword and force greatsword?

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cause I realized zealot has 3 chain weapons and I don't really know their differences

grizzled aspen
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Chainsword is your most mobile, but lowest damage option. Chaxe is your least mobile, highest damage option (I only say this because mk12 can "onetap" a crusher without doing the chastise trick). Evisc falls somewhere in between.

rough edge
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Ohh ty ty

grizzled aspen
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Evisc is also laughably fucking bad because the light attacks can only hurt 4 enemies, even if you can cleave more than that.

rough edge
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oh :(

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I really like the Evisc

grizzled aspen
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And, for whatever reason, mk3's h1, the sweep, actually does more damage than the h2, which is an overhead.

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Also they just don't do good damage to begin with.

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Which is hilarious.

rough edge
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I have been using the mark XV and it feels really good

grizzled aspen
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Get this, mk13 chainsword does more damage than mk3 evisc when comparing revved h1s.

rough edge
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then they should buff the heavy evisc?

full nebula
rough edge
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I have been using this for like a month now

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😭

grizzled aspen
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It has fallen so far behind, especially since relic blade dropped.

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Hopefully we see evisc buffs when they rework zealout tree.

rough edge
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is there a planned Zealot rework?

grizzled aspen
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Or, hell, tomorrow, when they drop patch notes would be sick.

grizzled aspen
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For way too many reasons I can name.

rough edge
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honestly, I would like the other two nade trees to get a TLC and then like, loner to get reworked entirely

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also make martyrdom give an extra wound so you can actually get max stacks in heresy up

grizzled aspen
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Loner needs scrapped and we need way better toughness generation.

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I compared each class's toughness generation before and zealout has by far the worst outside of second wind.

rough edge
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as for zealot weapons I want to get buffed

Evisc and shredder auto pistol come to mind personally

grizzled aspen
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If we could get actual toughness generation then I could see second wind being dropped to 10%, but that's gonna require fatshark to devote some man hours to getting this tree actually workable.

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Ogryn needed the rework more than we do so I'm happy they actually get to have fun again.

rough edge
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yeah they really do, I am happy ogryns get love

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I got a friend into DT and he started as an ogryn and has been so sad about the weapons

copper hawk
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Srry was doin hema

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If u still wanna do a duo i can do like 1 or 2 before i have to crash

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In like 10 mins

silk garnet
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i want a way to regen immo nades

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they are really fun

plush estuary
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just fought off 2 raids then the herd of man eating guinea pigs arrived

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there is 41 of them

copper hawk
plush estuary
hexed igloo
plush estuary
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the sound of them

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half of my colonists were down

hexed igloo
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Worst raid I think I've ever gotten was 181 shamblers

plush estuary
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zombie mod?

frozen crystal
hexed igloo
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No mods that affect raids

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I locked everyone inside the walls, and set them on shifts repairing the spots they were trying to break through until they all died from being shamblers

plush estuary
plush estuary
hexed igloo
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Also I might be stupid but why bro got so many batteries lmao

plush estuary
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I played before dlc's were a thing

plush estuary
hexed igloo
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Like.....maybe 5 until you have geothermal

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And then you have constant power and they aren't really needed anymore

grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
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evil and nefarious

plush estuary
hard nexus
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typical...

obsidian prairie
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How long was that ogryn in

plush estuary
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all of it

obsidian prairie
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Was that twins or something

plush estuary
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we were doing a duo

jagged cradle
plush estuary
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and someone like to spectate

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peeping wolp

copper hawk
hard nexus
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im just really really bad at ogryn

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(i dealt that damage with dclaw)

hard nexus
full nebula
jagged cradle
hard nexus
jagged cradle
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Ahhhhh!!!

hard nexus
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@plush estuary @copper hawk

sullen forge
plush estuary
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shrimple as

formal umbra
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Wiped on the last part of havoc 40 carnival

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I'm gonna take a break

copper hawk
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@plush estuary gao gao

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
ancient yoke
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New event upcoming and I’m setting up my first Zealot, melee focus! She’s a sister of battle if it matters

What combination of weapons do you guys recommend? 🙂

formal umbra
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The relic blades are incredible feeling

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They've gotten me addicted to zealot

obsidian prairie
formal umbra
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Yeah

ancient yoke
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Fantastic! Sounds like I’m in the right mindset then

carmine falcon
tame sluice
fringe bay
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Zealot does have a lineup of fun uniques

formal umbra
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Has two fun blitz options too

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I thought I would hate the throwing knives but my god do they feel good when you're used to them

fringe bay
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Throwing knives are also genuinely really good

formal umbra
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Yeah

obsidian prairie
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They also have the best pathing

formal umbra
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I had just never given them a chance because I was too lazy to rebind my blitz key

ancient yoke
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What I’m thinking of trying first is flamer and eviscerator

formal umbra
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Good choice

carmine falcon
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Good weapons

fringe bay
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The zealot bread and butter

carmine falcon
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Just have fun ande experiment

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Find your style

ancient yoke
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That is fantastic advice, from all of you! Thank you so much!

ornate bone
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Its all fun and games until you discover the devastating power of the death poker

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Seriously nerf the dueling sword

formal umbra
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Even dueling sword is fun and worth using

obsidian prairie
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I wouldn’t call it fun

formal umbra
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Esp with how ludicrous it can be on zealot

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I have fun with it, I'll probably still use it after it inevitably gets nerfed

ancient yoke
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I’ve used dueling sword but only on psyker

formal umbra
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I like the moveset

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Sanguinius would have beat Horus if he was using a dueling sword tbqh

copper hawk
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Two builds

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And u can always run a bolter

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Unyielding flak

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Puncture Shattering Impact

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Dump collat or mobi

ornate bone
obsidian prairie
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It has 2 attacks

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Unless you run mk2

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Then it has 3

copper hawk
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Use dueling sword if u r a lil baby zeal

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When ur rdy 2 take off ur trainin wheelz

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Try one of the other wpnz ,,

ornate bone
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Im using it until I get True Survivor staregryn

copper hawk
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Oh and rashad

ornate bone
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Someone needs to keep these timmies alive and it's gunna be me

copper hawk
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Also a training wheels wpn

ornate bone
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Rashad?

copper hawk
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Mk iii or ii whatever the number is combat axe

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Not the achlys or the antax

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I think it's like a green color by default

ornate bone
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Oh I hated all the combat axes

obsidian prairie
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Tac axe is better anyway

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Use that

copper hawk
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Rashad is a training wheels wpn

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Best generalist weapon for zealot

ornate bone
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I miss using the

copper hawk
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Does literally everything very well

ornate bone
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Longsword?

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Don't remember the name

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Uhhhh

copper hawk
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There's only one long sword

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U mean the relic ?

ornate bone
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No

copper hawk
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The only other sword is the heavy aword

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Sword*

ornate bone
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Heavy sword yeau

formal umbra
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I love rashad

ornate bone
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Yeah

copper hawk
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Slightly more ethical rashad

formal umbra
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I think I just like braindead weapons

obsidian prairie
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Mostly because zero carapace damage

copper hawk
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Yah

obsidian prairie
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Hs is fun though

copper hawk
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U actually have to make a build

ornate bone
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Heavy Sword was good fun

obsidian prairie
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Total mutant death

copper hawk
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I run piety w my hsword

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For maximum chastise uptime

ornate bone
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Just use combat blade

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And bleed everything

copper hawk
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Knife is an unethical weapon

ornate bone
obsidian prairie
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Bleed knife is bad

copper hawk
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Especially bleed knife

obsidian prairie
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Do not the bleed knife

copper hawk
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I used 2 leave lobbies if i sae a knife player

ornate bone
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I will bleed the knife

obsidian prairie
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I’d rather use tac axe anyway

ornate bone
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On havoc 40

copper hawk
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Now i leave lobbies if I see more than one properly built sueling sword

obsidian prairie
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Same but better and more fun

copper hawk
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Dueling*

ornate bone
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And you can't stop me

copper hawk
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Idc if it's petty i want to have fun

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Waste of time playing when someone is using a dueling sword

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Nop

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I cannot eep

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I eeped all day

hard nexus
hard nexus
ornate bone
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I've been awake for 22 hours

copper hawk
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And my roommate listens to max volume fucking

hard nexus
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ds players r all shit

ornate bone
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Im tired

copper hawk
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Yt on his ipad

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And had the audacity to tell me im loud

hard nexus
copper hawk
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He falls asleep and leaves it on !!

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Ill challenge u 2 a duel

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And win

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Noob

hard nexus
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nuh uh

copper hawk
hard nexus
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i’ll

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uhh

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hold on

copper hawk
ornate bone
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I'll go back to using relic sword

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After I get my title

copper hawk
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Unethical weapon ..

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How dare u..

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Use taxe .

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..

ornate bone
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Tf is wrong with relic sword

plush estuary
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its bad

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shrimple

copper hawk
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It's like a rashad

plush estuary
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🦐

hard nexus
copper hawk
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R u doin this on porpoise

hard nexus
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and catch you in the neck

copper hawk
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🐬

formal umbra
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I like relic sword :)

copper hawk
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U will do such thing

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I kill u

hard nexus
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do u guys fuck with shia labeauf the musical

obsidian prairie
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The only ethical weapons are tac axe dclaw and thammer

copper hawk
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Windhaus u 2 death

obsidian prairie
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Weep

ornate bone
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Axes aren't.. fun

obsidian prairie
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Forgot about evisc

hard nexus
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real

obsidian prairie
copper hawk
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Yah and evis

brisk raft
copper hawk
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Kid named keep swinging mod

ornate bone
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Id rather using a relic blade or evis over axes

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Any day

obsidian prairie
ornate bone
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For fun factor alone

hard nexus
obsidian prairie
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The horde combo for tac axe is push attack->heavy

copper hawk
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Yah it's braindead

copper hawk
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But the unfun kinda braindead

hard nexus
formal umbra
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Tac axes are a meme perpetuated by people who like hurting themselves and convincing themselves that they're better than other people because of it

copper hawk
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XV is the i see silly colors kind of braindead

obsidian prairie
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No they’re actually good

copper hawk
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Normal evis is the screamy kind of braindead

obsidian prairie
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Better than Rashad at clear and safer as well

hard nexus
copper hawk
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I dont want 2 be a screamy one..

obsidian prairie
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Amazing crit synergy

formal umbra
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(that was a joke sorry)

hard nexus
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taxes are good

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oh ok

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i think

obsidian prairie
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Good mobility

copper hawk
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Meow ur pawtism is showin

plush estuary
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cole and I

copper hawk
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That was clearly sarcasm ..

formal umbra
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I was trying to be annoying on purpose but the joke didn't land

brisk raft
copper hawk
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See.. this how i beat u in duel

ornate bone
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People were raving about the relic sword before, tf happened?

copper hawk
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I feint an oberhau into an unterhau

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And kill u

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Cuz ur so eazy 2 trick

obsidian prairie
copper hawk
hard nexus
ornate bone
hard nexus
obsidian prairie
hard nexus
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but that was ages ago

copper hawk
hard nexus
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when it first dropped

copper hawk
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:3

ornate bone
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That's the only reason relic sword isn't my favorite is cause of mobility

obsidian prairie
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4 dodges is fine

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Crusher and thammer only have 3

copper hawk
hard nexus
obsidian prairie
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You’ll live and be better for it

copper hawk
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/calm/

ornate bone
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I still have yet to use crusher

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Since release

obsidian prairie
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Crusher’s great

copper hawk
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I need to sleep

obsidian prairie
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Stagger stick with damage on top

copper hawk
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Goo night lil gay ppl in my phone

formal umbra
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Yeah the mobility is like the only thing I don't like about relic blade but God forbid a weapon that ridiculous have a downside

hard nexus
# copper hawk

every time u send a soyjak as a reaction image, a puppy gets kicked

ornate bone
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Alright show me your stick and I'll try it out

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Rlly ?

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Right in front of my red 40 ?

formal umbra
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Soyjak posters will not see god

formal umbra
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wolp ....

ornate bone
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Good secondary to relic is the boltgun yeah?

hard nexus
tame sluice
hard nexus
formal umbra
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Or bolt pistol

tame sluice
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if this is 5e if it's not I'm just stupid

hard nexus
ornate bone
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Maybe time to slap the revolver back on

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I miss that thing

tame sluice
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yeah RAW that isn't possible

obsidian prairie
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Right

tame sluice
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the Ready action requires that the spell costs an action to cast

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Misty Step is a bonus action

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so it doesn't work

hard nexus
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that’s stupid tbh

tame sluice
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correct

hard nexus
ornate bone
tame sluice
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if only

obsidian prairie
ornate bone
obsidian prairie
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(It’s worse but funnier and better for a certain niche)

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(and more fun to use)

ornate bone
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No, I use the other one so it feels like I'm firing a Smith n Wesson

hard nexus
formal umbra
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One day I'll clear havoc 40.

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I must get better.

hard nexus
ornate bone
hard nexus
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(2 chorus, 2 bubble)

formal umbra
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3 attempts tonight made me wanna die

hard nexus
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doing it with like

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chastise

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and SG

formal umbra
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Yeah my group earlier ran that

hard nexus
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is actually difficult

formal umbra
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They just died tho

ornate bone
hard nexus
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i need 2 get back up to H40

formal umbra
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Being the last one to die always feels bad

ornate bone
hard nexus
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i haven’t played havoc in so long i’ve deranked 4 times lmfao

formal umbra
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I don't blame you

ornate bone
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I don't think i can play anything besides high havoc

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Its

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So fun

hard nexus
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i can do high havoc

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it just

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feels bad to do with the weapons i use

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(mk3 evis)

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because it takes so long to kill things

formal umbra
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Yeah

hard nexus
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ive top damaged using mk3 evis in it

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i just

formal umbra
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Like it's more than doable but it just feels worse

hard nexus
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didn’t really enjoy it too much

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it’s fun but the kind of fun i only wanna do every now n again

twin wagon
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DS nerf coming

formal umbra
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Please God

hard nexus
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source^

formal umbra
median steeple
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Crushe

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Like bug

formal umbra
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me after losing 5 havoc 40 runs in a row to teammates running off and dying 90% through a mission and each time the group implodes

hard nexus
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siiiggnaaalliissss

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i need more signalis content

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immediately!!!!!!!!!!!

formal umbra
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gey robots

hard nexus
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i also

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cannot sleep

formal umbra
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Me either

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Might try another havoc if I can find a group

hard nexus
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despair time inbound

formal umbra
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Yeag.

plush estuary
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sounds like a good havoc duo opportunity

hard nexus
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i cannot havoc duo

formal umbra
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I have to play with randoms if I embarrass myself in front of zealot chat idk if I can live it down

hard nexus
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and i’m like

formal umbra
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LOL

hard nexus
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good

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so that was really embarrassing

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so you’ll be fine

formal umbra
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It be like that

hard nexus
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i hadn’t played dt in 3 weeks

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and gun psyker in even longer

obsidian prairie
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Vatgrown creature

formal umbra
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I love cats so much I wish I wasn't allergic

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This is a nice chat I should be active here more

plush estuary
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famous last words

twin wagon
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Zealots unleash the rot

plush estuary
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lol

formal umbra
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Finally

plush estuary
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woe upon you, 43 guinea pigs

formal umbra
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Rimworld is truly one of the games of all time

plush estuary
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the bugs are here

formal umbra
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The bugs are back.

plush estuary
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older clip

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I love lag

formal umbra
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LOLL

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Me too it's so funny

plush estuary
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have a clip somewhere where I used VoC 15 times before it went off

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but it played all the voicelines everytime I used it

modern lintel
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still catastrophic theyve yet to give us double barrel skins

formal umbra
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for real

hard nexus
hard nexus
# plush estuary

@spare talon post the clip of you lagging into death on psyker

sullen forge
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Did you see that?

modern lintel
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holy shit

sullen forge
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something really quick ran across the screen

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I didn't see it

plush estuary
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I released a prisoner and 30 seconds later he died to a panther, not my fault

plush estuary
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"siblin-"

hard nexus
signal spoke
median steeple
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@hard nexus false.... Trueee

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Sending psychic beams of death

charred elk
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Hi fellow zealots! I have a question:
How does voice of terra exactly work ? if I put down a flame grenade, will I passively see my toughness filling up ? Maybe I need to actually be equipped with my ranged weapon or something ?

formal umbra
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ok I did a few havoc 22s with a nice group and I like this game again

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ill get back to the 40 grind tomorrow...

formal umbra
charred elk
formal umbra
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thats a good question actually

spare talon
acoustic dune
charred elk
# spare talon

thank you mmmh I'm not sure it really answers my question. flame grenade burn would be considered a ranged attack ?

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It does mention blades of faith, I could assume they're both blitz and hence should work the same but blades of faith always had quite the exceptional property such as uncanny strike/handcanon abuse

obsidian prairie
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DoT is its own little thing

charred elk
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oh !

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alright so voice of terra won't work with it then

spare talon
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kulis documentation always mentions interactions if applicable

obsidian prairie
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Voice of terra isn’t good anyway

formal umbra
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voice of terra isnt good

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beat me to it

obsidian prairie
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Zealots only case for it is like

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Flamer/brauto into a mixed horde on top of you

formal umbra
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yup

charred elk
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Yeah it really isn't

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I just thought IF it worked with flame nade, there could be some interesting plays

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but it doesn't so 🚮

obsidian prairie
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That would involve taking flame grenades in the first place

charred elk
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Sometimes I like taking it although I agree blades will always be bis

obsidian prairie
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Hopefully not always

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Next update surely they will fix zealot’s tree

charred elk
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I like flame nade cause it allows me to not have to play flamer all the time in havoc

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BUT the fact that it forces you to pick a skill between enduring faith and voice of terra...

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Really is annoying

formal umbra
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I like flame grenades if im taking a ranged weapon like bolt pistol or revolver, although knife just has the best pathing

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such a stacked path

charred elk
obsidian prairie
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I just want more than 1 build

charred elk
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but definitely a few skills need to be reviewed to be made attractive again, blades of faith path is just absurdly stupidly better than others

fiery ingot
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yo whats the blessings for both evi marks?

bitter anvil
plush estuary
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he did have a suspicious lung sized hole where his lung should be

bitter anvil
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is there metamorphosis from infection parasite feature in the game?

plush estuary
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I think in the newest dlc

bitter anvil
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then is reasonable to kick him out

spare talon
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leveling in vermintide during double xp week
i love not having enough power to push normal fucking horde enemies

acoustic dune
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but smol

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or compact

bitter anvil
acoustic dune
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yes yes

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we all love the dwarf

mighty root
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Then bardin

obsidian prairie
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That is the most horrific misspelling of her name I have seen

mighty root
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Be nice to me

fiery ingot
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sennila

mighty root
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I forgot how unforgiving disablers are I keep trying to push gutter runners and i get pounced

modern lintel
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smells of noob

mighty root
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I’m sooooo used to pox hound

mighty root
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There’s no windup for them like pox hounds have

acoustic dune
mighty root
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Or atleast from what I can tell

mighty root
acoustic dune
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Never played

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Wouldn't know

mighty root
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@plush estuary how the frick do I deal with disablers in vt2?

calm salmon
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Ranged weapons, usually

plush estuary
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shoot

obsidian prairie
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Slide to the right

calm salmon
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bardin's shotgun is a good tool

obsidian prairie
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Or left

mighty root
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Besides ironbreaker or warrior priest

obsidian prairie
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Or turn 90 degrees and backwards

calm salmon
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sienna is nothing but ranged weapons

mighty root
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I mean yeah shooting is always good

calm salmon
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and saltzypoo has three classes with ranged weapons no?

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otherwise get good at dodging

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2, I guess on saltzypoo

mighty root
calm salmon
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But yeah, its just a case of learning dodge timings

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and learning audio cues

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its frustrating, but not impossible

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nurgle's tornado caster and soul sucker ARE pretty much relegated to ranged classes though

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Nothing you can do as a melee only when they're OOB

mighty root
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I’m aware I’m talking about recognizing animations like how a pox hound dips low before a pounce

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Dodging and shooting is basic stuff

calm salmon
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yeah

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and that basic stuff is how you deal with them lmao

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there's not some super secret tech

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especially since gutter runners are usually covered by a horde(dumbass crouching enemies)

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you need to listen to their audio cue

mighty root
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But half the time it seems like the gutter runner is instant

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Oh my gah

calm salmon
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Like hunters in L4D, Gutter Runners are the "punish" special. Most of the time you're just gonna eat the L

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if they're not super obviously in the open

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and hope your teammates have eyeballs

twin wagon
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You can push them mid air

calm salmon
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yeah that assumes I'm paying attention lmfao

twin wagon
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Now I will leave before you can respond

calm salmon
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but yeah, that's basically it

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just push them right before they hit you

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push hitbox is pretty forgiving

calm salmon
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Gutter Runner? Nah you take me down and I immediately knock you off me :D

calm salmon
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Das just J. He always been like that

fiery ingot
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the delivery with the gif was just perfection

spare talon
calm salmon
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Yeah, like I said, sometimes you just eat the L on gutter runners

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shrug and move on - either die or hope your teammates are looking at you

modern lintel
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epicnoob

acoustic dune
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Mice to meet ya all

spare talon
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ok yeah no im sick of this
im sick of vt2 pushes being completely and utterly useless

acoustic dune
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You could say

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I

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[Insert hamster pun]

polar nexus
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Shamster

lusty turtle
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Which is a good thing cause it shows dt is an improvement but man

stone fern
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🚬 they really should port over everything

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idc how just do it starting with breakable shields and boss walls

lusty turtle
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Nuh uh, another ogryn buff upon you

stone fern
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idk if boss walls would work in this game tbh

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some scenarios you kinda have to go up ahead to loop a boss

lusty turtle
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Prob not, i think it'd be better to force zealot to engage to get movementspeed (so tweak stuff like twbs and the 10% on sprinting to be less passive)

And it'd be nice to see all the bosses get an update to have atleast twins level of tools. Not a huge difference but you def feel it with rinda compared to a captain

stone fern
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i dont think speed running is much of an issue anymore tbh

spare talon
stone fern
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after the crafting update i havent really seen anyone speed run

lusty turtle
spare talon
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Lmao even

delicate shadow
stone fern
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havoc is mid

delicate shadow
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best solution is shoot 'em but you can push 'em out of a jump, even on high ping

lusty turtle
delicate shadow
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oh, well when they're in push range but before they've disabled you

stone fern
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havoc is so unenjoyable people speed run it as a challenge not for fun its not the same thing

lusty turtle
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Which is a fair question because its mostly guess work and a vibe, you just kind of get used to it

spare talon
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Except for when they appear from thin air

lusty turtle
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I conceptually like havok it just needs more work

spare talon
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Oh I also had one that pounced at me twice within the same like 2.5 second window

delicate shadow
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they don't have a cooldown really

lusty turtle
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Enemy hitmass needs to be lower, cleave blessing need to be lower, modifiers need to be more interesting

stone fern
spare talon
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Like I'm trying to finish leveling my last few characters but the game is fucking OUT TO GET me man

delicate shadow
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lmao

lusty turtle
delicate shadow
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VT2 official realm is ezpz

vast basin
stone fern
spare talon
vast basin
stone fern
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oh nooo someone cheesed my good boy title 😭

lusty turtle
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I do mostly agree, except ammo penalties

I think the ammo penalties just needs balancing (like more spawns in map for scrounging around)

stone fern
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kickback needs like 3 shots in havoc to kill most things

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and every ammo pick up would get you like 2 bullets max

lusty turtle
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Ye dw ive played shotguns into havok with exe vet, i know its too much atm for standard play AmeliaTopKekA

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I think if they upped the gain a touch and added more total ammo spawns it'd feel better

vast basin
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I feel like ammo crates should be 50% per charge atleast. 25% is just so pitiful

modern lintel
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why have the mods suddenly all started talking in my beloved zealot chat who started having a freak off to get them here

lusty turtle
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Its coles fault

spare talon
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How

modern lintel
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i knew he was a freak

stone fern
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cole stole the havoc ammo...

spare talon
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Hitmass, ammo, and ranged enemies are the biggest things imo

Ranged enemies need to be punishing, but still able to be avoided with proper play, the "hi I'm a normal shooter and I shoot for 10 years" needs to not be a thing, you should be punished for fucking up, not for letting them see you

Ammo is a stupid one bc the biggest issue is that if you raise it you give ammo to the OP weapons and its like ehhh, weapon balancing needs to happen before this can be done right

Hitmass increases functionally makes any weapon without infinite cleave or wrath or just a stupidly high cleave a single target weapon, and removes the purpose of like more than half of every weapons attacks altogether, which simply just isn't fun, let alone pushes people to just use the actual single target weapons (ds4) and infinite cleave (flamers/trauma)

modern lintel
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the yapper

spare talon
modern lintel
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you lack the ambition

stone fern
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and send the original to where people can read (test server)

spare talon
modern lintel
stone fern
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but yeah the hitmass and the ranged damage are the two biggest issues

modern lintel
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you rn

spare talon
stone fern
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now you wont see anything other than bubble flamer and purge

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(also the attack speed changes on ragers and bulwarks are kinda stupid )

spare talon
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Bulwarks specifically are the ones I wanted unique modifiers on

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Where the window of vulnerability wasn't affected by atk speed

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Sometimes it's hard to even get a force stagger during that time and that's just dumb

stone fern
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im so blind sometimes i have to follow the path of the grenade to actually find the bomber KEKW_ogryn

spare talon
stone fern
spare talon
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Fading light being gone would be literally the biggest change to make it a snooze fest

spare talon
stone fern
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🚬 why the hell would i want to play a 2 hour hug the psyker simulator

spare talon
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I was saying the window/duration that shooters fire is way too long

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I never said anything about damage or shot count

frosty herald
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🤫

spare talon
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Nor did I mention the re-additon of the toughness grace period

stone fern
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🙄

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this dude simply can not accept that the simplest solution is the correct one

spare talon
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Babifying havoc isn't the correct solution

stone fern
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🤓 erm we need to look at the shot salvo and the accuracy maybe the slide ifram window 🤓

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remove fading light and replace it with another modifier

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its that easy

lean lark
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The simplest solution to any problem is more hunting grounds

stone fern
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hunting grounds SUCK

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hounds do not exist to psykers

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they dont do anything

delicate shadow
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add massive bulwark waves

frosty herald
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Love is in the air? WRONG 200.000 pox hounds

spare talon
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Havoc is literally the 1 place where ranged enemies are worth a damn and the moment you felt any push back from said ranged enemies you hated actually having to pay attention to them

stone fern
delicate shadow
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massive bulwark waves hiding a poxburster in each one

stone fern
frosty herald
spare talon
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In their current state it is too easy for them to punish you harshly
It should be harder for them to punish you, but the punishment should still be harsh

stone fern
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yap alert

modern lintel
frosty herald
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Bullwarks shouldve been replaced with stormvermin already

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Give maulers arbites shields and shock mauls

stone fern
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remove bulwarks from the game

delicate shadow
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maybe havoc just needs to be harder

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add H60

stone fern
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add havoc 200

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1 hit kill

spare talon
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Fading light 60
You die upon loading in

stone fern
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and enemies black your movement

frosty herald
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Enemies now slow you and give you blindness

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If you get hit by a crusher your pc will get a voltage jolt and your monitor will explode into 20 million shards

lean lark
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advanced ball knowledge

frosty herald
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I need shagaru magala

jovial cosmos
spare talon
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(This is a bad idea)

jovial cosmos
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I mean at one point, emp lights 7 afaik, it caps out

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But we're at 2

frosty herald
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At some point even taking 1 point of damage results in a down

celest jolt
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high havoc needs a version of monster specialists built-in instead of fixed boss spawns, hopefully they did something like that

obsidian quail
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giant trapper

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imagine

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giant mutie that throws you 50 meters away

lean cairn
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Havoc 40 will add toughness bleed through on ranged attacks

stone fern
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🚬 i love how people actually think they can start hunting grounds missions at 12pm and people are actually gonna join

tall birch
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Havoc 50 will remove overtoughness

acoustic dune
vast basin
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1 hp 0 tough no until death allowed

acoustic dune
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Ans you'll get a slightly darker blue cosmetic

tall birch
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It's more for the CBT than the rewards I feel

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It hurts the right way :>

acoustic dune
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the one from wikipedia?

tall birch
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It was a joke in poor taste, im sorry.

frosty herald
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ever death in havoc will now delete a random file from the C drive

jovial cosmos
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Hmm they could bring back permadeath

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Like og twins

lean cairn
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who would stick around for the rest of that

copper hawk
heady rapids
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and if you're not doing that every h40 then why are you even playing the game

jovial cosmos
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True, but good luck going for that on any day other than monday

heady rapids
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would just be annoying if anything tbh

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twins are fine cause it's a short mission

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well, were

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now that they removed it

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not letting you play the game is something I would imagine they'd wanna avoid

acoustic dune
misty nova
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💀

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Executioner Stance meta

frosty herald
hushed knoll
acoustic dune
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oh hi stan...

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what abomination did you manifeste now

copper hawk
visual stream
ornate bone
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@copper hawkwhat do you use on your crusher?

copper hawk
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Carapace unyielding

ornate bone
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Alright giving it a go

grizzled aspen
ornate bone
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Oh and asking this cause I don't see it in pings, ya'lls personal preference on Bolt Pistol?

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Trying weapons I wrote off a long time ago

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Blessings and Perks I mean

static sky
acoustic dune
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i like the Bistol

static sky
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Bistol is bussin

ornate bone
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Didn't see the point in Bistol when my mighty revolver existed

acoustic dune
static sky
acoustic dune
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i was in a haze of insanity

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working one for yamato right now

static sky
acoustic dune
static sky
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Peet’s ferrets are bussin

acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
static sky
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Yasss!!!!

acoustic dune
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yamato might be or wiil never be finished

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depending on my aura

grizzled aspen
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On vet, run it the same way, but if you use shredder grenades, swap run n gun to lethal prox.

acoustic dune
#

on the Bistol

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i like the 100% crit on weakspot

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and the explode proximity one

grizzled aspen
#

The main usage of bolt pistol on zealout is to use puncture to give yourself instant scourge value.

acoustic dune
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oh great karien

grizzled aspen
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It makes weapons without crit blessings, but good finesse, like crusher, very good for piety, if you decide to run it.

hybrid jewel
hybrid jewel
stone fern
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puncture is a lot of damage by itself

acoustic dune
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thy have hab not post the fluffer nutter pic for some time

hybrid jewel
hybrid jewel
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Is what it is.

static sky
hybrid jewel
acoustic dune
static sky
#

My personal prophet is DMX!!! Inspirational and uplifting. The emperor approves

static sky
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BUSSiN!!!!!!

acoustic dune
#

pls stop uttering that word

static sky
#

It’s the word of the day!

acoustic dune
#

youll get us another dark age

acoustic dune
static sky
#

I’ve been threatened with that before. The mods won’t touch this. Can’t stop won’t stop

acoustic dune
visual stream
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Little fatass

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Lazy bum

acoustic dune
#

what are on deviant art these days

static sky
#

We are the discord kittens you couldn’t groom!!!

hybrid jewel
acoustic dune
#

fair nuff

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in class

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waitin for teacher aproval

hybrid jewel
static sky
acoustic dune
#

played project wingman just now

hybrid jewel
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Having to use smoke and ping things bleah.

acoustic dune
hybrid jewel
acoustic dune
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however i only ping on target i cant get

hybrid jewel
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Sitting duck pinging.

static sky
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Controller players rule the world!!!!!!

acoustic dune
#

iphone player

static sky
hybrid jewel
acoustic dune
#

i mean how else would they buy a apple product

static sky
#

I love my iPhone 😦 one month away from planned obsolescence

acoustic dune
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new one are

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...fragile

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and no headphone port

hybrid jewel
static sky
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Get a Walmart SE. indestructible until you can’t update anymore. Still won’t die though

hybrid jewel
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+$100 for same model but BT sucks.

visual stream
visual stream
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Phone runs perfectly smoothly, no problems

acoustic dune
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or maybe i should get a gaming phone

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and use it as a heater

visual stream
#

Need to finally update to use some apps

hybrid jewel
acoustic dune
#

instead of my laptop

static sky
visual stream
#

Do so
It is now less than useless

acoustic dune
static sky
#

Definitely not looksmaxxed

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Or bussin

acoustic dune
#

nuthing else

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nuff said

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anyhow goingg through my old like tweet