#zealot-class

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acoustic dune
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ok hear me out

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what if

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we have nurglings

copper hawk
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Only saving grace is using its dogshit caps and cleave to cheese

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Pike w the blessings

carmine falcon
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perfect strike my beloved

copper hawk
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Perfect strike and shred making you cleave a shit ton and stagger everything you cleave

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Effectively turning it into a shittier crusher

slate notch
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Do we have any kind of sheet or guide with the best blessings , etc for each weapon? I think we had one a eyar ago but it's outdated as hell at this point

copper hawk
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Just ask the chat

polar nexus
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my fucking god, it's been like an hour like that

copper hawk
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Wpn by wpn

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No zealot ogrynomicon

polar nexus
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you can look at the vet guide tho, it should have 90% of the info you need

sullen forge
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Every single person who’s attempted making a guide has been beamed

polar nexus
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because we are like sexier vet tbh

carmine falcon
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i mean they can still make it even if they're banned Haha

polar nexus
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less armor, more leather

sullen forge
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I think it’s cursed

misty nova
copper hawk
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Zealot chat has the most freaks

misty nova
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Then every now and then Riposte or Precognition

copper hawk
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Eccentric personalities

misty nova
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Rampage is up there as well

slate notch
carmine falcon
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what weapon Haha

polar nexus
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duolingo sword LMAO

fringe bay
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Power sword time

polar nexus
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you can play taxe, chword, relic, crusher...

copper hawk
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Heavy sword !!!

slate notch
misty nova
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Slaughterer is up there as well

slate notch
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Been playing relic recently, it's fun once you play a few games, not my fav tho.

slate notch
copper hawk
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Womp womp

misty nova
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Can't remember the perks

slate notch
carmine falcon
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both marks are just peak

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try crusher

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its fantastic

copper hawk
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Whenever I use the relic i wish i was using the fgs ,,

slate notch
carmine falcon
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yesss
mk2 is a bit more involved with combos and has a sexy big dmg uppercut

slate notch
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Feels so slow tho, that's something that kind of grind my gears, specially if I have to clutch

polar nexus
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relic is fine until you have to dodge 3 crushers and you're out of fotf

heady rapids
carmine falcon
heady rapids
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dont you enjoy it loading for like

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a minute

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when you start your pc up

polar nexus
placid fiber
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I am really liking the cluster bomb hammer for the gun in hades 1. The feeling when you get all 5 to hit 1 enemy is great

carmine falcon
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a lot of people do not play to relic's biggest strength, it's reach

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it can bonk things comfortably from a very long distance

copper hawk
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Smaul is fun

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I think i use the not 1a

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I run my stalwart build w it

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And yah i use flak unyielding

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IJ is def the better option though

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I just like stalwart cuz it's fun to have chastise

placid fiber
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It's pretty easy to pull these off as multiple enemies are spawning in the same area <.<

slate notch
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What about crusher? I've used it a couple times, looks like a great aoe weapon but it lacks the dmg to become great, feels like you're using an inflatable weapon

polar nexus
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lol

copper hawk
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It has rlly good adms and arent getting that much damage out of chastise against armor w the smaul

carmine falcon
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crusher does good dmg
slap skullcrusher and slaughtere on it and abuse the push attack

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aim for headshots

copper hawk
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Skullcrusher slaught

placid fiber
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Also: even with 8 more damage per shot the attack on this thing fucking sucks lol

copper hawk
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Cara/Flak Unyielding

carmine falcon
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itll kill things and stagger entire hordes
its the funniest weapon to use

polar nexus
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crusher is easily in the top tier of dmg

copper hawk
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It has a unique characteristic where the push attack has a relatively massive finesse multiplier

placid fiber
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I feel like a nerf rifle would do more damage than this machine gun's bullets :\

copper hawk
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With sk u can i think 2 or 3 shot crushers after staggering them w a powered attack

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Cole has a clip of this

placid fiber
copper hawk
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It also does a lot of stagger in general

polar nexus
copper hawk
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Staggers about everything

slate notch
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Ok, ok, gonna try crusher 1st then smaul, will compare

copper hawk
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Take a bolter to delete bosses

fleet zealot
copper hawk
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Smaul is just a shittier crusher

fleet zealot
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skullcrusher slaught and beat shit down

copper hawk
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Same niche, crusher does it better

slate notch
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Let's see then

copper hawk
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It has better damage generally, better burst dps, and it actually staggers shit

placid fiber
polar nexus
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smaul is the ethical crusher

fleet zealot
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fatshark decided being mid wasn't enough for smaul and shot it

polar nexus
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you take it when you want to be try hardy

copper hawk
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Smaul has issues staggering dangerous enemies

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Ragers in combo, crushers in general, etc

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Crusher has no such issues

hushed knoll
placid fiber
carmine falcon
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remember to abuse tf out of powered attack on crusher

copper hawk
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Especially against armor

polar nexus
copper hawk
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It benefits from chastise more than the smaul

carmine falcon
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its pretty smooth to activate and the impact is mucho funni

copper hawk
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Like that bad

fleet zealot
copper hawk
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I use it on my stallie hsword 9 build

fleet zealot
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but fatshark hates on block blessings i guess

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and stealth nerfed it

copper hawk
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Cuz my sword w chastise covers armor

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Shistol works as a bootleg tknife

polar nexus
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wdym?

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ahhh

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ok

carmine falcon
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for running speed?

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las pistol makes u go fast and kill things Haha

placid fiber
# polar nexus wdym?

autopistol is good for 2.5 things: maniacs, toughness generation(inspiring barrage), and mobility(it's decent unless going up against omega high sprint weapons)

carmine falcon
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ive been using it so much

polar nexus
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instant swap and stagger i think

placid fiber
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well and stagger

copper hawk
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And the occasional boss silliness

polar nexus
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actually with a relic blade....

copper hawk
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W raking fire

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Staggers trappers when theyre firing

fleet zealot
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if you want raking fire you go viag

copper hawk
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Fast unholster speed

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Accurate enough at range, especially w dwd

fleet zealot
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dum dum raking on viag vs bon is ridic

polar nexus
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i do not see viagra user atm

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Guns down dreg ragers very quickly

carmine falcon
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las pistol is actually so good at what i want it for it makes me forget i have tknives

acoustic dune
polar nexus
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it's like everybody went back to bolter / recon

fleet zealot
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love las pistol

placid fiber
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I only take the autopistol if my melee can literally kill everything >.>

carmine falcon
acoustic dune
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took as much damage as a ogryn

copper hawk
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Noob

placid fiber
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It works with: thammer, rashad, dueling sword, knife, relic blade, probably the crusher, and maybe the eviscerator/chain axe

copper hawk
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💅 ✨

placid fiber
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and having a backup toughness generation tool when caught out in the open while getting shot while also shooting them is nice

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brauto works for that, tho, now that it has inspiring barrage <.<

polar nexus
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last time i used brauto well... it felt so fucking slooowww

placid fiber
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That's the problem: 2 dodges, not much sprint

polar nexus
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like common you can shoot faster

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that too

placid fiber
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Well if you use chastise you get 20% attack speed for it at least

carmine falcon
mighty root
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Holy shit i didn’t know it was an xt good job

placid fiber
carmine falcon
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its amazing for boss shields

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brbrbrbrbrbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttt

fleet zealot
misty nova
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Gunlugger will be real

fleet zealot
stone fern
misty nova
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It's finally becoming real and you want it removed

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Smh

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Current Gunlugger
Two nodes 5% ranged damage each
+Suppression
+Reload speed

delicate shadow
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gunlugger has always been real

misty nova
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No real buffs to your weapon

stone fern
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gunlugger is too real in fact

delicate shadow
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(so long as you're ok with hogging the shit out of all the ammo)

carmine falcon
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i give good gunluggers all the ammo

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they melt everything

misty nova
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8% CRIT chance that you have to keep up

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Why 8 though

delicate shadow
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I've seen way too many clips of Ogryns just bullet hosing and clearing screens with ult loops lol

fleet zealot
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because you can also take the lucky bullet is automatically crit

carmine falcon
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idk if playing rumbler or kickback makes u a gunlugger but i played with 2 ogryns who just spammed tf out of both weapons and the entire game was just one big boom after another big boom

misty nova
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ult

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The extra ammo is nice though

delicate shadow
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bah fine, PBB loops

misty nova
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And steady grip

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Mobile emplacement is nice as well

fleet zealot
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Mythra the Fanged

pale spindle
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That's MSRP for the specific brand for USD

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Hellhound is the middle card of the lineup for powercolor

pale spindle
tranquil saddle
pale spindle
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There are none left either I beat the scalpers

acoustic dune
misty nova
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They used it to clean a chimney

fleet zealot
mighty root
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If anything goes wrong with it I’d get a refund and get a sapphire

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It’s the best amd brand

acoustic dune
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OK hear me out

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5th darktide class

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Titans

ebon bobcat
acoustic dune
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Walking church

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That or servitors

acoustic dune
ebon bobcat
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Thoses spiky robots things that use heretics as fuels to stay working?

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Like a dreadnought but pain

mighty root
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@pale spindle if anything goes wrong get this

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I know the brand you got is alright but their customer service is terrible

acoustic dune
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5th class always take damage over time

ebon bobcat
polar nexus
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does evga make amd cards?

polar nexus
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Reviewers should stop talking about msrp prices, that's a joke

sullen forge
violet hornet
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Weird shrimp but okay

placid fiber
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I ended up switching my attack boon from ares to athena since doom wasn't doing all that much... later this run I then found this hammer upgrade... all 3 were just for attack so I said fuk it, gimme da shootie... athena's boon now is doing something at least

mighty root
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Uohhhhhh please come back in stock

placid fiber
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It at least does 30 more damage, despite the shorter range <.<

misty nova
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Shotgun build let's go

placid fiber
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iirc my options were homing shots, bounce on shot hitting, and the shotty

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the homing shots probably would have been goated if I had zeus on my attack

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So far my futherest run(which dies at hades) had the exploding spear special and shorter range on it(which actually made it damage enemies way more often when I missed them)

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Wait... is this the hammer thing you were telling me was the go to for the gun? Because I am not sure how well it would do for me... now that cluster bomb? Absolutely works extremely well for me @grizzled aspen (sry I don't mean to keep pinging you so much, I just wanted to make sure on it. I went and decided to look what hammer options are available for all weapons)

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That cluster bomb has gotten me to the last area a 2nd time due to how good it is for me

pale spindle
pale spindle
pale spindle
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I mean I can't be picky

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The only reason I went with powercolor is because it was the only one avaliable 💀

plucky gate
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gpu availability still painful?

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not surprising

pale spindle
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Powercolor were smart, they didn't list the pages for the product until after the launch date, so that scalpers can't set the bots to automatically grab an IP that doesn't exist yet

pale spindle
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I want an XFX but they were all sold out literally the second they went on sale 😭

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Because they pre listed the products like fucking idiots

lament blaze
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I always wait at least a year after a new line comes out before considering buying anyway.
1: Likely price decrease
2: Better driver reliability.
3: More likely the "oops our GPUs set on fire" issues are fixed if they appear

These drivers be funky oftentimes, especially with AMD.

mighty root
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Yeah I wish they did more to combat scalpers

mighty root
lament blaze
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It can't be user error

mighty root
lament blaze
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Cables are meant to be bent. That is why they are cables and not slabs of metal

mighty root
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My gigabyte card prevents weird cable bending tis why I love it

mighty root
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It’s like a phone charger going bad because people keep bending it

plucky gate
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I think there's a point where risk and damage are too high to blame on the user

lament blaze
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If you've seen how so many companies treat their cables.

lament blaze
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Like i've been in university computer labs and server rooms and they abuse the crap out of their cable spaghetti. Cables, especially power cables should be made sturdy. It's on the product designers and manufacturers.

plucky gate
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If there was a button that just blows up your computer, sure someone could blame your user for pressing it, but that's definitely the manufacturer's fault for leaving that in.
A cable literally melting shit for bending it shouldn't really be a thing in consumer electronics

placid fiber
# grizzled aspen Yes. Nuke.

Well I guess I'll probably try it if I get it offered, sometime. Still, thought, that 5x grenade throw(with -30% damage) fucking hard carried the run I just was in

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I really wanted to go back so I could see if I got aspects yet(which I had) so I just suicided instead of trying my luck vs hades. <.<

grizzled aspen
placid fiber
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ngl the aspect of zagrius on the fists is the one I want to try out first

grizzled aspen
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Even if it's bad.

grizzled aspen
plucky gate
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my favourite fist aspect is the one that buffs the special after enough punches

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hits really hard

placid fiber
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so I ended up giving up and getting the 5 throw again

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I'm guessing Hestia is the one that makes the gun useable, but, the one that gives extra ammo is tempting me a lot

grizzled aspen
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The 3shot is really good but you kinda need a blessing for it.

placid fiber
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I kinda want to try the triple shot on the bow as well, sometime

plucky gate
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very satisfying

placid fiber
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... these first 3 bow aspects just... I am not feeling it when I look at what they do... The crit is probably the one I would find the most useful for now :\

plucky gate
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I use chiron for most of my runs but i doubt you'll get much out of it without upgrades

placid fiber
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this spear one looks like it was made for how I end up using the spear(aka special spam). <.<

plucky gate
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1

placid fiber
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that or the achilles one

plucky gate
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Achilles spear is insane dude

calm salmon
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I've heard good things about that game

plucky gate
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It's super versatile too. You can make caster builds cause it buffs casts

placid fiber
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The sword's zagrius one makes it look more interesting, but, it's 3% each upgrade so I will probably wait until it's up to 12% or w/e

plucky gate
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+150% damage for next few casts

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imagine

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it enables the meme ice beams build that's like annoying to get duo boons for

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but also just cast builds in general

misty nova
placid fiber
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What I'm really thinking for the gun is: bonus ammo + zeus on shot... for cc, then special for damage... I know the hestia one is the better one, but, I want to try the bonus ammo and zeus sometime <.<

plucky gate
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I actually don't really like how spear feels and every time I'm about to play it i think "man i suck at spear, this will suck"
and then it's the easiest run of my life every time because it's that good

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i always remember it being clunky but it just does so much damage

placid fiber
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I'm definitely doing the shield with zagrius for my next run. I want to see how that flat damage bonus does

plucky gate
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zeus shield is super nice btw

placid fiber
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does 60 damage with +75% when I don't have a boon on it, rn, with lvl 3

plucky gate
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zeus shield with zeus special boon goes hard

placid fiber
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Yeah, frog told me that's the cc go-to for it

plucky gate
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zeus special boon is iffy a lot of the time cause it wants fast hits but not too fast cause it has a rate limit
zeus shield special ticks perfectly for staying within that limit

pale spindle
placid fiber
plucky gate
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idk something like that

lament blaze
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Ive been an AMD stan. but the 6000 series came out with some funky driver issues

pale spindle
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Fire issues shouldn't be a problem since these cards use the standard 8 pin connectors

placid fiber
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Also: I'm so close... yet so far away...

winged aspen
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Warp Traveller 🔥

pale spindle
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Not sure what happened with Nvidia's QA issues this year tho 💀

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Nvidia is the unreliable ones right now

pale spindle
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Which is crazy

placid fiber
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without that 75% bonus I only do 34 damage per shield attack instead of 60...

lament blaze
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nvidia switched industries as far as im concerned. the gaming market is practically irrelevant. their company's value didn't shoot to the top because of the 4000 series gaming performance i can tell you that lmao

calm salmon
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10% loss in revenue is huge

lament blaze
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oh yeah no ofc not

calm salmon
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Just. . . let it continue as it is now until AMD or Intel start putting real pressure on them(Challenge level: impossible)

placid fiber
calm salmon
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though the 9xxx series seems to be solid price for performance

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assuming actual msrp and not manufacturer/scalper markups

placid fiber
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first shot does 88 after a reload with lvl 1 hestia and the +75% keepsake

calm salmon
placid fiber
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wow the damage increases by 25 each bonus level (lvl 1 is 50)

plucky gate
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hestia rail really wants the upgrades to really function yeah

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kinda useless if it's not like near fully upgraded

placid fiber
calm salmon
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those are words

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(I've never played Hades)

plucky gate
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fully upgraded hestia rail is 150 base damage per shot

calm salmon
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but I can grasp the underlying concept at least. Super unfortch that the base weapon is so ass

plucky gate
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and then you can put a lot of % damage buffs from chaos on it

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including dash attack chaos boons

pale spindle
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Every single 5000 card has a 5% chance of catching on fire

plucky gate
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and then artemis crits multiplying that...

calm salmon
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12vhpwr cord was a mistake we're aware

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that said

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I'm running a 7800xt on a pigtail power cord

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capped to 225 watts or something

placid fiber
calm salmon
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because I have no idea which power cord goes to which psu in my closet lmao

placid fiber
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most attack boons make you do a % bonus damage(and cause a status), a couple have flat damage effects

calm salmon
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Ah okay. So the game is pretty much directing you towards the handful of flat bonuses to then crank with percent

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just makes me think of vampire survivors

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both the actual VS game, and all of its competitors in the genre

calm salmon
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you start out doing like 7 damage

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and at the end of a level you're doing 40,000 damage a second lmao

calm salmon
misty nova
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I find it hilarious because of that

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A thermos

plucky gate
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It's more like if you pick a weapon with fast attacks, you pick the boons with flat on hit damage
if you pick slow high damage, you pick the damage multipliers

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if it's something in between, there's on-hit stuff with a cooldown (doom)

calm salmon
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o. more wrinkles added to the pink matter

lean lark
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@frosty herald btw the game counts tempered JD harder than tempered GM (both 5star) but i think thats due to story progression order rather than per-boss

plucky gate
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the damage scaling from beginning to end is more like, 25 damage per hit going to like 70

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not like vampire survivors going 10000x more dps

frosty herald
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one has a guaranteed cart if you stand in the nova the other just does a lot of damage per attack

lean lark
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if i put triple ice res i could probably tank nova

lean lark
frosty herald
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yeah thats probs a story order thing

pale spindle
lean lark
frosty herald
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that has to be low rank

plucky gate
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it can't be

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pretty sure low rank was just repel

lean lark
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it is repel in low rank

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you cant get temp low rank jd

frosty herald
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repel quests turn into hunts

frosty herald
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how tf did you kill a tempered in 3 minutes

pale spindle
mighty root
lean lark
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the lowest time possible for a temp jd is probably x4 heavy bowgun? id guess

hexed igloo
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Yeah wilds slaps

fringe bay
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Me likey

hexed igloo
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The people complaining about the story railroading you have 0 ground to stand on

fringe bay
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As if I play MH for the story

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I don’t like the change they made to wyvernsnipe, and the game runs like shiet but that it

hexed igloo
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Skill issue

lean lark
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get performance mods

hexed igloo
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I'm running it on a ryzen 5 and a hard drive with no performance mods and I'm getting an even 60 unless there's a shitton of particles

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Mfw benchmark with everything maxed out gave me 110fps average

fringe bay
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No I get good fps, but it uses a shit ton of cpu and memory

hexed igloo
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It's a big cpu and memory intensive game

fringe bay
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Also I got this awful visual bug that forced me to play in windowed

sterile basalt
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Check cpu driver update

hexed igloo
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plays game

why the hell is it using my pc

sterile basalt
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AMD had one very recently

fringe bay
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Oh, that’s prob my issue

sterile basalt
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That update somehow seemed to make DT run better for me as well?

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Could be entirely placebo

fringe bay
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Makes sense I suppose

hexed igloo
fringe bay
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I had an NPC get stuck and it took like a full minute for it to get unstuck

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Also the fucked up models glitch is endlessly funny

hexed igloo
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After finishing the story yeah I also hate Nata fuck this guy

hexed igloo
fringe bay
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I’m ready for capcom to add a mechanic to ruin the balance with the expansion

placid fiber
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Wait... I chose the bonus ammo gun with zeus for lightning on attack, but, this means I won't ever reload? I can just constantly spam the shots that zap?

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The damage might not be the best, but, the 17 zap damage zeus currently does adds up... even more so if I get joltd

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Oh hell yes, I love this already

misty nova
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Delta chamber with homing plus a couple Hermes attack speed goes crazy

placid fiber
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I don't doubt it, currently I just got delta chamber, zeus on attacK(+2 poms), +33% damage(chaos), and +6 zap bounces

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This might not be especially powerful, but, I am loving the almost constant shooting

misty mason
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Man my hype levels have been such a rollercoaster for this update

placid fiber
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which part are they on currently?

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The high or low?

misty mason
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Oh its another modifier mission based update, fucking boooo
Oh its Chaos Wastes? Fucking yessss
Oh its not chaos wastes? Booo

fleet zealot
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this ogryn rework will for sure be a nerf

misty mason
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Also I'm genuinely so baffled that their response to player feedback in havoc is needed to be harder

fleet zealot
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cause i only consume content where people say ogryn is terrible and unplayable and you should never invite them to havocs

violet hornet
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Buff ogryn to lore accurate strength and nerf ogryn to lore accurate intelligence

fleet zealot
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are the ones that play it?

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you don't have to go h40 for the main cosmetic draw

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only 25

misty mason
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Nah

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If they want more havoc players the difficulty isn't the problem

fleet zealot
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the more mods is for all players, a higher difficulty cap is for havoc sweats

clever swan
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I don't think they do (want more havoc players). which makes havoc questionable as the first special gamemode

misty mason
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The atrocious systems surrounding groups and rewards is the problem

violet hornet
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It does really feel like the devs made high havoc in response to seeing players solo auric maelstroms. "You can solo that? Well how about this?" And now we're seeing the reaction to h40 solo runs

misty mason
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It honestly seems like anything that caters to that crowd is just a twitch streamer update

fleet zealot
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yes totally, there weren't any players who want more ballcrushing content

violet hornet
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Hamdol and keje are going to solo anything you make, just look at the psykanium challenges KEKW_ogryn

fleet zealot
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/s

misty mason
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They definitely exist, but they're a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase

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And catering to that is like bizarro development

clever swan
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I like to think they do this so those people will stop complaining or be contented

placid fiber
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I'm guessing this "storm lightning" zeus boon is to cause jolted spread... I'm not sure how much causing 19 damage to bounce more times would really do unless there was a crowd...

violet hornet
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Plenty of pvp games balance around the top ~1% of the ranked playerbase

fleet zealot
misty mason
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This isn't a pvp game tho

fleet zealot
#

lol

#

they are offering multiple things for people of all skill levels

plucky gate
#

they're making havoc harder?

misty mason
fleet zealot
plucky gate
#

is there gonna be higher havoc levels?

violet hornet
sterile basalt
#

Still up to 40

fleet zealot
#

you are freaking out cause the top end of one gamemode is going to be harder and calling it catering

#

when they are obviously catering to all players

violet hornet
#

Honestly would have made more sense to raise the cap and put harder modifiers above 40, plenty of people stuck on the road to 40 as it is

misty mason
#

Literally only the sweatiest of sweats want it harder, ask 99% of people who played havoc what they would like changed and it's going to be about rewards and match making

clever swan
#

I'll never understand how this topic turns into an argument almost every time

misty mason
#

So yes they're catering to the sweats

violet hornet
#

But that'd require making even more cool free cosmetics for beating it thiink

plucky gate
#

yeah i kinda feel like they should've made havoc 41 if they want a harder havoc

fleet zealot
#

mortis trials will have availability across the board

#

ogryn update is for everyone

plucky gate
#

feels kinda lame to aim for the same milestone again because they updated it to be harder

#

give me a bigger number

misty mason
#

Dev time is a limited resource and by focusing on that rather than the actual wanted changes, that is by definition catering

clever swan
#

let's just hope this is their way of getting that catering out of the way and it'll never happen again

fleet zealot
frozen crystal
#

⬆️

#

People are overlooking the ranked change comment

fleet zealot
#

and the 4 new mutators will be for everyone

carmine falcon
#

i just want to do more havocs for the helmet and chest piece

fleet zealot
#

any maps they add into the rotation will be for everyone regardless of havoc level

north sedge
#

They should make havoc harder and/or easier, which ever annoys people more

fleet zealot
#

they should make havoc 40 clearable by anyone, so it isn't gatekept by skill level

clever swan
#

wouldn't want people to feel left out

#

I just maintain that havoc shouldn't have been the first special gamemode. having the giga hard gamemode first doesn't really make sense if it's balanced around the top players, I think

grizzled aspen
#

The true answer is to axe fading light's shoehorning into anti-shooter setups.

sterile basalt
plucky gate
#

If they want havoc to be something casual players want to do, hopefully that involves making havoc easier to queue into and start. Dunno how though

fleet zealot
grizzled aspen
#

I'm fine with less ammo, toughness, and hp. I'm not fine with being instant downed by very common enemies, and I don't think 99% of the player base is, either.

misty mason
#

I knew i should have blamed cole staregryn

fleet zealot
#

cause ngl

#

i'm really like the idea of just, realistic expert infantry blasting your team down

#

but it shouldn't be every match

grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
#

blame hank for ogryn changes

grizzled aspen
#

Less hp, toughness, and no toughness grace period is fine everywhere. The shooter part should be separated.

misty mason
#

I do really like the build diversity vs standard havoc causes

fleet zealot
#

we are really a healthy community

clever swan
#

separate the shooting part and then make a melee version and yep

fleet zealot
#

havoc made me realize how flexible auric is

grizzled aspen
#

You wanna go a step further? Make other modifiers harder because of the separation of shooter op-ness.

fleet zealot
#

oh nyo

carmine falcon
#

i actually liked walkers and groaners being a threat i just dont like CS major winning 100% perfect aim infinite mags reapers and gunners ruining your entire existance in 3 seconds

grizzled aspen
#

Make tox gas ignore toughness, for example, and do straight hp and corruption damage.

clever swan
#

3 seconds is generous

fleet zealot
#

crushers attacking 30% faster

misty mason
#

Having mutants ignore toughness and increasing their spawn rate would be the worst and the best

fleet zealot
#

shit yourself now

carmine falcon
#

getting grabbed by a mutie in havoc with shooters around = gg

misty mason
#

Everyone clambering over each other to rescue their squad mate only to get grabbed themselves

north sedge
#

Infinite hunting grounds, no timer between waves, who lets the dogs out plays on loop even if you turn off music

clever swan
#

see that's the kinda shit havoc should've had

undone pewter
#

that's just og hunting grounds lmfao

plucky gate
#

dogs only, nurgles blessing

violet hornet
plucky gate
#

a billion nurgles blessed dogs rushing at you all the time

north sedge
carmine falcon
#

5 captains with broken animations at once

undone pewter
#

It was like every 30 seconds

#

it was fucking annoying

#

it was so annoying they removed it for a bit while they reworked it iirc

plucky gate
#

add nurgles blessed trapper waves

stone fern
#

i wonder if theyre gonna do something to ragers

#

theyre annoying with the speed buff still

grizzled aspen
carmine falcon
#

sniper 1 taps yooooo

plucky gate
#

snipers already dont care about your toughness

grizzled aspen
#

Snipers could kill you instantly, flamers would be infinitely more dangerous, mutants could do half your hp.

#

In fact make snipers actually kill you instantly.

carmine falcon
#

id hate my life with flamers ignoring toughness

plucky gate
#

they do their full damage if they break your toughness (which they already do)

grizzled aspen
#

Do not go down, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars, die instantly if you get shot.

#

I mean, they are a sniper, aiming for your face.

plucky gate
#

like the snipers would just be exactly the same
so would bursters

#

they both have full spillover damage

#

well i guess golden toughness wouldn't save you

#

actually yeah do that

#

fuck golden toughness

violet hornet
#

Havoc snipers that kill from full hp / toughness instead of downing

lean lark
#

@frosty herald ok so matter of fact 410 phys def 26 ice res full hp does not let you tank last stage 5 star temp jd nova

frosty herald
#

Told you

#

Its a guaranteed cart

lean lark
#

holy fuck it deals damage

plucky gate
#

what if you divine blessing proc?

carmine falcon
#

new modifier
enimies have dodges and will dodge every other attack

#

get fked

lean lark
#

i mean

#

i assume uh

#

divine blessing t3 + the defender meal (hi) with these stats

#

might tank it?

#

if they both proc

plucky gate
#

maybe

#

try it

#

have fun with rng

lean lark
#

nah im just gonna look up the raw damage if its noted anywhere

misty nova
#

They will weave your heavies every now and then

full nebula
misty nova
#

It's actually annoying

#

Specially because it kinda locks you into seeing them dodging

clever swan
lean lark
#

ok its not noted anywhere

grizzled aspen
lean lark
#

ok guess ill try to rng it tomorrow and see if it is tankable

full nebula
hexed igloo
lean lark
hexed igloo
#

Yeah good luck then lmao

#

Reddit claims you can just outheal it but I strongly doubt

#

I personally took the cart like a man

lean lark
#

you can outheal 3star temp jd nova

#

I know that for sure

#

but certainly not 5star, the damage is too much

hexed igloo
#

Oh I haven't gotten there yet I've just done the repel thing

lean lark
#

and I am not pulling an alatreon nuke outheal strategy

hexed igloo
#

Just finished the main story last night

lean lark
#

nice

hexed igloo
#

Tell me why I carted to the fucking fire chicken and not the world ending calamity

lean lark
#

dinosaur squared

#

chicken dinosaur is like dinosaur dinosaur

hexed igloo
#

If you run in before the model loads it's chicken³

plucky gate
calm salmon
#

are we talking wilds

plucky gate
#

yeah

hexed igloo
#

I love that they give you rocksteady near the beginning, fuck the world mantles

calm salmon
#

fun game

#

I think I've used a mantle twice

#

The only enemy that has truly punished me was tempered arkveld

#

because he has a kill combo

hexed igloo
#

I use gs, rocksteady is just free big hits

calm salmon
#

I made my buddy sad while I was using the gs

#

literally all I do is Circle>Triangle

#

for the spin>overhead

hexed igloo
#

Bruh

plucky gate
#

I use corrupted mantle

#

big dps

calm salmon
#

and I was doing twice to 3x the damage of everyone else in the lobby

#

two attack combo

#

27k damage into a 4 man tempered arkveld

calm salmon
#

(he has 52k hp)

clever swan
#

are there damage tracking mods

hexed igloo
#

The allure of GS is running around slapping its legs until it finally gets knocked over and then you deal 90% of its hp in 30 seconds, and then you run around slapping its legs until it dies

calm salmon
#

There's already damage reporters

clever swan
#

oh boy

#

I gotta get one so I can improve!!!

hexed igloo
calm salmon
#

I do not have one installed, just listening to my buddy talk about my damage when I was using Longsword and Greatsword

#

longsword dps was roughly 35

#

while greatsword dps was roughly 110

lean lark
clever swan
hexed igloo
clever swan
plucky gate
#

...

calm salmon
#

I wish her white shirt weren't so fuckin dirty

plucky gate
#

i should check out the mods

calm salmon
#

I get she's in a forge

#

but like its the ONLY part of her that's dirty

lean lark
clever swan
#

I would never do that to cute alma

lean lark
#

someone's making their own layered weapons system as a mod so I'm keeping an eye on it

clever swan
#

well, maybe jiggle mod. seems like that could be part of the base game

calm salmon
#

toying around with sns now though

#

longsword was fun enough, gs got kinda boring even if the damage is highly effective

hexed igloo
#

They made the perfect rush kinda weird

calm salmon
#

I haven't gotten that far

#

I do Triangle x4, circle x3?, Triangle+Circle, Hold Triangle+Circle

#

I'll work on figuring out the other combos laaaaaaaaaaater

plucky gate
#

Is perfect rush good now?

hexed igloo
#

I've been mostly just using gs and hammer

plucky gate
#

I heard they overnerfed it in the beta and buffed it up after

hexed igloo
#

Idk I've only used it on the training machine

calm salmon
#

Only thing I know is flying attack has three different attacks you can do

plucky gate
#

Something about it being more backloaded, which i like in theory

calm salmon
#

and the downward sword stab has very high mount multi

hexed igloo
#

It seems to do decent damage but nothing crazy?

calm salmon
#

so you can pretty reliably get to the point where you just ride dinos for fun

plucky gate
#

it was dumb in iceborn where the front half of the combo was still insane, so even half a combo of perfect rush was better than literally everything

#

it was just pure pr spam

calm salmon
#

yeah see gs feels like that to me in wilds

#

circle for the spin attack, triangle for an overhead

#

no holding attacks, no counters or anything

#

just two simple attacks to maximize dps

plucky gate
#

It makes sense when a big combo is optimal for a big opening
but in iceborne, half the big sns combo was also optimal in short openings

hexed igloo
#

I play for feels so I be going for every perfect guard and offset I can

calm salmon
#

I don't quite learn fast enough for that

hexed igloo
#

Clash makes me feel some type of way

#

That type of way being bricked up

calm salmon
#

but I'm at the point where I'm only killing 7* and 8* tempered enemies for artian weapon mats

plucky gate
#

Greatsword in wilds sounds fun

calm salmon
#

so if I keep doing that, I'll probably learn enemies enough to offset reliably

#

but x to doubt

#

never been good at parries

hexed igloo
#

The gs parry is probably the easiest to hit

#

You can hold it unlike most of the others, and you can just pull it out with no combo

calm salmon
#

kind of

#

there's a couple attacks where you can't offset out of it

#

both are dodge spins

plucky gate
#

it's also like, big, so that probably helps

calm salmon
#

but you do need to use a little bit of brain power

hexed igloo
#

You can hold it long enough, and the hitbox of it is very generous

#

I've offset attacks that just didn't hit me at all

clever swan
#

I wonder if monster hunter will ever get a more physics based combat system vs its current nearly entirely animation based one

hexed igloo
#

Probably not

calm salmon
#

I wish end-game monsters didn't move around like lovecraftian horrors

#

probably my only complaint with the fights lmao

hexed igloo
#

Actually definitely not, it's like a staple of the game itself

clever swan
#

if they do it'd probably take like 7 games to transition, with each game adding a more physicsy mechsnic, so it might seem natural

calm salmon
#

fighting Wu Tang Clan and the other Fire Octopus is infuriating

#

because they don't telegraph their attacks at all

hexed igloo
#

Idk about the wu tang dog I chain ko'd him for 10 minutes

plucky gate
#

I like Arkveld's and Rey Dau's telegraphs

calm salmon
#

I think that's its actual name

hexed igloo
#

Yeah the wood octopus

calm salmon
#

Yeah I dunno. I only needed to fight him a few times so I probably missed something

plucky gate
#

i like cutting off the legs of the octopus

calm salmon
#

But it felt just as aids as the fire octopus

plucky gate
#

it's just funny

calm salmon
#

randomly being flung by a tentacle

hexed igloo
#

It might be just that I play gs defensively

calm salmon
#

fire octopus was the only time my buddy and I failed a hunt

#

everything else was pretty fuckin ez

#

so that's probably why it felt like such a slap in the face lmao

hexed igloo
#

I haven't failed one as of yet, but I'm sure that's coming

naive wharf
#

i love fighting a horde with my eviscerator and doing well
only for the lvl 70 veteran to mag-dump his bolter into it

plucky gate
#

i have carted to fire octopus from it just bodyblocking me with it's tentacles in a corner

calm salmon
#

let the baby mag dump

plucky gate
#

i just couldn't move lmao

hexed igloo
#

Wait no I failed 1 because I hit the SOS and the guy that joined carted 3 times

calm salmon
#

he'll learn soon enough

#

I've been using SOS exclusively for artian farming lmao

#

I just did co-op with my best friend otherwise

#

I can't be assed manually hunting 7 and 8 star tempered monsters

#

just go sos and speedrun that shit

hexed igloo
#

Fair enough, I only used it for uhhhhh I think it was guardian doshaguma cos he's a pain in the fuckin ass

calm salmon
#

I kinda wish all of the monsters had 7 star tempered versions

#

only having 5 end-game monsters is somewhat boring

#

especially when you've got shit like zapdos that's cool as fuck to fight

hexed igloo
#

Title update in April so we'll see

calm salmon
#

but it doesn't do anything for you

hexed igloo
#

I hope they bring in my beloved jet dragon

naive wharf
#

which is the better chain axe for zealot, and with what perks/blessings?

calm salmon
#

mk13 lets you spam mouse 1

#

mk4 requires you to have a brain

#

they're equally good

#

I used headtaker and uh

#

slaughterer

#

on both of them

#

perks I dunno

#

go in the meatgrinder and get to testing

naive wharf
#

flak carapace pretty decent?

calm salmon
#

we can freely change those now at hadron

#

if you get carapace, I think you're doing it for the oneshot on crushers

#

with uh

naive wharf
#

thrust?

calm salmon
#

fuck I've forgotten the ability names

naive wharf
calm salmon
#

funny run forward one

#

yeah that's the one

naive wharf
#

yeah that one

#

i dont use much other then that one unless i do 16 upwards on havoc

#

then its probably book spam

calm salmon
#

I just like the mk13 because zero brain power mouse 1 spam

#

X shaped attack pattern isn't perfect

#

but it makes it really easy to use

naive wharf
#

gonna do carapace unyielding, slaughter headtaker for XII

calm salmon
#

if you pick maps instead of qp

#

throw flak on it when you do assassinations

#

assuming fatshark hasn't updated their shield

#

and it still counts as flak armor lmao

#

(its been a minute since I've played with the mindset of understanding the intricacies of the game)

misty nova
naive wharf
#

switching unyielding back to flak, because i usually just bolter magdump atrocoties anyway

#

have it specifically built for it

frosty herald
#

@lean lark you can take a chunk out of arkveld's head

frosty herald
#

this is specifically on the tempered version btw which is funny

stone fern
#

wait

#

WAIT

#

mk12?

sterile stone
#

Turn bro's head into some gator shoes

stone fern
#

THRUST?

#

😭

#

this dude has no clear

clever swan
misty nova
#

It's a thing

mighty root
#

I sleep

#

I love my heavies for hoard clear

hexed igloo
stone fern
#

I LOVE L1H2 for clear on every weapon

ornate bone
#

Wait

#

Is it possible to skip from havoc 29-40 by just joining someone with 40?

#

And that becomes my new clearance level?

heady rapids
#

yes

ornate bone
#

I've been doing this all wrong

#

I've been matching with new randoms every clearance level grinding to 40

#

:l

misty ravine
#

Most randos won't accept your application to havoc 40 unless you're close to it anyways

heady rapids
#

i got accepted into 36 with like sub 20

#

then from that to 40

ornate bone
#

I can complete 40, I know that much. Just need someone with it and a team.

#

But nobody on has that level

#

Where are the furries when you need them

plush estuary
#

@copper hawk @hard nexus just let me know when you are gaming, imma be playing Rimworld in the meantime

clever swan
#

2 edits later

plush estuary
#

ur mom

clever swan
violet hornet
violet hornet
#

Except when they're getting banned, then they're not I suppose

clever swan
#

we lost one furry recently. rip

rough edge
#

for my zealot curios

I have 2 max toughness and 1 max hp
All of them have
Gunner resist
toughness
Ability regen.

should I change them out?

ornate bone
#

The furries are getting banned?

clever swan
#

sometimes

heady rapids
#

they finally cracked down on furries

violet hornet
#

Not for being furries anyways

clever swan
#

furries are basically the reason this place got slowmoded

plush estuary
frosty herald
ornate bone
#

Y'know of every group I've ever met, furries are definitely the biggest mixed bag

#

I've ever witnessed

plush estuary
#

most zealot weapons use push attacks, taxe, crusher, knife

#

so all the extra stam adds more overall dps

ornate bone
#

Is there a reason to push with dueling sword besides stagger?

#

I should really give the crusher another try

heady rapids
#

i think it has marginally better cleave on its push?

ornate bone
#

Yeah I've.. Kind of noticed that?

#

Little funky but it helps sometimes

heady rapids
ornate bone
#

oop

#

Got invited to a havoc 40 game

#

yippee

lean lark
#

I like the detail

#

It'd be cool to have tempered mons show even larger impacts on their body after you break them or cut them off

naive wharf
#

avg standard damnation deciding to act all auric

#

750k damage on a chain-axe build i usually dont use

#

and some poor veteran kept disconnecting and reconnecting

#

also learned thate the push attack on the MK XII chainaxe is fucking GOATED for weakspot hits

sullen forge
naive wharf
#

also finally got crusher and bulwark bestiary done
just reaper next

sullen forge
#

Reaper took fucking ages

#

Good luck on that

plush estuary
#

le colony

sullen forge
plush estuary
#

okay

#

next prisoner is gonna get all of his limbs amputated

misty ravine
#

Looks like dwarf fortress

misty nova
plush estuary
#

4 peg limbs

sullen forge
#

Recruit them afterwards

#

name them "Joke"

#

"we amputated their limbs and trained them wrong as a joke"

plush estuary
#

and they are gonna be like that soon

sullen forge
#

Jesus

#

Bro is BARELY alive

plush estuary
#

bro is going through it

copper hawk
#

All drugs

copper hawk
plush estuary
#

zamn

copper hawk
#

Had power when i was awake, took a nap, no power

#

Roommate says it's been that way for hours

plush estuary
#

the power gods ate it

copper hawk
#

All the food in our fridge ? Rotten now

#

Yippee !

plush estuary
#

well, hope it comes back soon for you

#

good luck

copper hawk
#

Thanks babe

placid fiber
#

... I can make my grenade a rocket...?

#

And I thought cluster bomb was goated, I want lol

grizzled aspen
# plush estuary

Please give that man a second lung, holy fuck that hurts to remember.

plush estuary
#

you cant

grizzled aspen
#

Not even with organ harvesting?

plush estuary
#

base game no mods, there isnt a bionic lung

grizzled aspen
#

CRINGE

#

Get mods and clone people to harvest their organs.

plush estuary
#

came back after a long break

#

no I did no dlc and no mods

#

relearn the basics

grizzled aspen
#

Totally not a terrible idea that'll give your colonists a flesh eating virus that spreads via everything...

grizzled aspen
#

Bro has one lung and one kidney and he's still smashing holy fuck.

#

Make his bedroom nicer.

copper hawk
#

@plush estuary

#

Powrr is back

#

Will be on soon

plush estuary
obsidian prairie
#

Playing in mud and eating sand build

#

Very good

plush estuary
#

My fav hav 40 build for taxe

#

maulers dont proc until death with their overheads

#

shrimple as

violet hornet
copper hawk
#

Got new headphones and they dont seem to work.. vry cool

modern lintel
#

shouldve bought astro noob

full nebula
ornate bone
#

Aw completing someone elses havoc 40 doesn't make you Havoc 40?

plush estuary
#

at the end of the week

#

at reset

ornate bone
#

That was incredibly fun, we almost got True Survivor but the psyker blew himself up

#

I was expecting something harder though

#

Probably just lucky with the modifiers

placid fiber
#

wait... I have the explosive shot on the bow and they just offered me shotgun mode...

plush estuary
#

wait till the 25th

ornate bone
#

Is it more difficult content coming with the content update?

#

Thought it was just.. content

plush estuary
#

?

#

content can be more difficulty

ornate bone
#

I'll go read it

placid fiber
#

they said something about harder havoc stuff in the thing we got on steam

plush estuary
#

oh yeah

#

I forgot most people dont know whats coming

#

mb

placid fiber
#

Oh yeah

#

didn't it just come out today?

plush estuary
#

yup

ornate bone
#

Seen the noti today yeah, was just excited to get some havoc in

#

I'm hoping for like

#

Havoc 80 or something

plush estuary
#

new havoc 40 will feel like a havoc 60 (?)

ornate bone
#

yippeeee

placid fiber
#

Oh boy, I am excited to try this bs out (triple explosive shot)

opal star
#

what the hell is going on in hades

placid fiber
#

Well I just started playing this game like... 2 days ago. I got the explosive shot from the hammer(1st room) and then I just got triple shot >.>

#

Also this thing is actually really handy with that

plucky gate
#

making me want to open hades again

#

been a few years

placid fiber
#

I have yet to beat hades for the 1st time. I've gotten him to the 2nd phase in the 2 times I have fought him x.x

#

Oh, hey... this is the 1st time I got to choose this with a build that used the attack primarily... :/

#

last time I had a cluster grenade gun build :\

lean cairn
lean cairn
#

thanks ❤️

#

i had a colony last time i played with 3 people, my colonists were attacked by mechs and only one was able to walk and he was also the doctor, so he stabilised my other 2 colonists and was mauled to death by a guinea pig

#

the colony was successful after that

plush estuary
#

sounds like rimworld

copper hawk
#

@plush estuary i finally got all the shit to work

plush estuary
#

Logging on, want a strike team vc?

copper hawk
#

sure

plush estuary
#

@hard nexus

median steeple
copper hawk
#

4627349699 @plush estuary

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

ainz had to go

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and i went down (washed)

hard nexus
hard nexus
grizzled aspen
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I just picked through all my nieces alphabet pieces that we just bought and I've never been more angry.

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There's supposed to be a full set for a lowercase and capital alphabet and two sets of numbers and its missing a 5 and the capital V.

hexed igloo
grand tangle
grizzled aspen
sterile stone
visual stream
placid fiber
placid fiber
mighty root
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Was it that 4090 labtop?

placid fiber
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Oh sweet, I got a 2nd diamond... now I can start getting permanent bonuses from non-boon stuff if I want

ornate bone
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Oh man.. With the new generation of cards I might be giving AMD another try

plush estuary
ornate bone
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Now that havoc 40 is out of the way...
Finding people for True Survivor is going to hurt staregryn

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@thecathis anyone complete a mealastrom or how ever they spelt (center mission on Mission Control)

solemn cliff
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It honestly just comes in time.

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You can definitely get a team of pros and do a few dedicated runs, but many people I've talked to have it just from a random pug that was ace.

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That's how I got mine too.

sterile stone
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Even worse when it's 2 bad players

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EVEN WORSE

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If they're both Ogryns

hearty nebula
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and i came back just in time to see it

sterile stone
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It feels like I'm playing 2 games at the same time.

solemn cliff
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Honestly, those are some of my favorites.

sterile stone
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Nah fuck that

solemn cliff
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Like, it's a grind, but finishing an auric with 50-60% of team damage is a high.

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Same with making wild save plays.

sterile stone
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Bro was all talkative til me and the other zealot questioned if bro was new to aurics

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Mans just stayed quiet and kept dying the whole match

hearty nebula
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who what

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oh

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carrying morons in aurics

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yeah that shit's always a snooze

sterile stone
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Nah it wasn't even that

hearty nebula
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me when i stick my thumb up my ass and make everyone else's life miserable

sterile stone
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The fucking goober was just stagnant

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Didn't move at all

hearty nebula
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simply vote kick

ornate bone
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Mhm, I need help with it. Can never seem to find a decent group to help me, did pretty well last run but everyone else died and I got fucked over

sterile stone
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And had the audacity to say "Where did you guys go, stay with the team"

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Like bruh

hearty nebula
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what is "with it"

sterile stone
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YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE BY THEMSELVES

hearty nebula
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i just say "shut up dog" whenever i hear comments like that

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you can tell me how to play when you are not objectively worse at the game than me in every single aspect

ornate bone
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Damn

sterile stone
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I've told this to cole

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Bro when I go into harder difficulties like havoc 30s or some aurics

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I dead ass did not log in to play baby sitter my guy

mighty root
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I don’t mind it

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It makes me better

mighty root
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Keeps my tide sense sharp

mighty root
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OOOOO caterpillar