and trying to shoot a mech with a rail gun and or missile
#zealot-class
acoustic dune
placid fiber
dressing like a pony feels like a furry end of the brony spectrum >.>
static sky
You can tell me if you have. No judgment here brotha.
hearty nebula
no contest
acoustic dune
ac's would win
erm no
AC would win
placid fiber
You can tell me if you have. No judgment here brotha.
Never have, never really interested me. I was more into the fan fics and the games like the castlevania pony game >.>
acoustic dune
dressing like a pony feels like a furry end of the brony spectrum >.>
that or just riding a pony
hearty nebula
erm no
AC would win
placid fiber
static sky
Never have, never really interested me. I was more into the fan fics and the gam...
Who was your favorite Pony???
grave nebula
This one looks sick
placid fiber
This one looks sick
ikr?
polar nexus
and a bit underwhelming after reaching such highs with taxker
grave nebula
This one looks like the Supreme brick 💀
placid fiber
Who was your favorite Pony???
Eh... not sure tbh, I can't really remember
acoustic dune
god i need to finish my project wingman run
placid fiber
is it just from the shop?
it's the imperial edition one
grave nebula
it's the imperial edition one
whats that?
acoustic dune
whom knew buying the most expensive aircraft would make the game easier
sadly no prez
hearty nebula
also hello chat
static sky
Eh... not sure tbh, I can't really remember
Now you’re lying. A brony never forgets
placid fiber
Now you’re lying. A brony never forgets
I have adhd :/
hearty nebula
yes, but also your opinnion is invalid because brony profilepic
you're noob
acoustic dune
also hello chat
https://open.spotify.com/track/5yw4C8rft1mCGdTlsrCY4X?si=a4aa60085be64dd4 this started playing when i played the vid
hearty nebula
opinion discarded
acoustic dune
i thought that was from the vid
static sky
I have adhd :/
Surprised pikachu face! I’m to poor to afford the real thing tho
hearty nebula
no
acoustic dune
well now you know
static sky
the man has a wife
He’s under inquisition at the moment. Furries are heretics. I’ll get to the bottom of his brony ways.
hearty nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f3eE0kaAY jammin time
placid fiber
holy fuck I forgot the controls lol
limber trellis
He’s under inquisition at the moment. Furries are heretics. I’ll get to the bott...
bluey pfp 🤨 🏳️🌈 ?
grand tangle
💀
static sky
bluey pfp 🤨 🏳️🌈 ?
Bluey is now part of the black Templar crusade against furries. Flashgitz made it canon.
Gawwddd….
signal spoke
whats that?
DLC
hearty nebula
counter point
acoustic dune
theres only the emperor of mankind
grand tangle
Bluey is now part of the black Templar crusade against furries. Flashgitz made i...
The templara killed bluey in that vid, for being an unsanctioned psyker
acoustic dune
The templara killed bluey in that vid, for being an unsanctioned psyker
wasnt shown
neon relic
what did clad do
acoustic dune
noob noob mindset
grand tangle
grave nebula
theres only the emperor of mankind
you're implying he isn't God???? HERESY!!!
hearty nebula
real
static sky
you're implying he isn't God???? HERESY!!!
Thank you
acoustic dune
you're implying he isn't God???? HERESY!!!
placid fiber
what did clad do
@stone fern clad made sure the tempered jin for monster hunter (whatever the new game is called) wasn't released yet (this is a joke)
grand tangle
you're implying he isn't God???? HERESY!!!
Imagine even putting the emperor in the same category as the rest of the gods in 40k
grand tangle
He's way above them
stone fern
<@244173531129053194> clad made sure the tempered jin for monster hunter (whatev...
mb g
neon relic
clad fucked the optimisation
hearty nebula
cuz he's noob
placid fiber
whats that?
but as someone else said: It's a "dlc" for the game that gives you aquillas, the soundtrack(might be pc only, idk), and several cosmetics
acoustic dune
I AM NOT HOLD
grave nebula
Imagine even putting the emperor in the same category as the rest of the gods in...
They are not "gods", they are DEMONS
grand tangle
They are not "gods", they are DEMONS
What about the c'tan and khaine?
acoustic dune
They are not "gods", they are DEMONS
imagine calling the emperor a god
when a god doesnt really exist
placid fiber
u smelly like nursing home
old people, dementia, and piss?
acoustic dune
are you calling the emperor fake?
hearty nebula
old people, dementia, and piss?
ya
hearty nebula
ya
acoustic dune
<:neckbeard_MLadyTipFedora:562563643351236608>
hearty nebula
<:neckbeard_MLadyTipFedora:562563643351236608>
no selfies allowed
hearty nebula
fat fuck
grave nebula
no selfies allowed
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647
coward only once?
grand tangle
The emperor is a MAN
MANKIND is STRONGER than the GODS
Calling him a GOD is an INSULT
static sky
old people, dementia, and piss?
Don’t cream your jeans. But look what I found. Relics of yesteryear. My daughters have a huge collection of these things. Want them?
grave nebula
The emperor is a MAN
MANKIND is STRONGER than the GODS
Calling him a GOD is an I...
yea but who created the emperor then
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647
watching the pony planet blow up will never not be funny to me
grand tangle
yea but who created the emperor then
Mankind did
There is nothing more man-made, more artificial, than a human being
hearty nebula
i thought the emperor was made by a bunch of old insane psyker dudes
grave nebula
Mankind did
There is nothing more man-made, more artificial, than a human being
what?
grave nebula
Mankind did
There is nothing more man-made, more artificial, than a human being
but he is a literal skeleton that still has a mind, that has psychic powers, that can basically do miracles
placid fiber
i thought the emperor was made by a bunch of old insane psyker dudes
iirc they sacrificed themselves and had their powers combine to form the emperor or w/e
acoustic dune
hearty nebula
blow his fucking skull up
grave nebula
oh great an abrahamic moron
what
static sky
Wasn’t the emperor a perpetual and just acquired his godly powers over eons and shady deals with the warp walkers?
grand tangle
what?
Your mind and consciousness (like all ppls minds) is one of the least natural things in existence, all other things unnatural spring from the human mind
grave nebula
Wasn’t the emperor a perpetual and just acquired his godly powers over eons and ...
What is a warp walker?
hearty nebula
Wasn’t the emperor a perpetual and just acquired his godly powers over eons and ...
we don't know
daemons, probably
grave nebula
Your mind and consciousness (like all ppls minds) is one of the least natural th...
how is it "unnatural"?
acoustic dune
daemons, probably
space elf
static sky
I thought John fucking Grammaticus shed light on this during the Horus heresy
acoustic dune
prob space elf
placid fiber
prob space elf
space elves formed the sex god(slaanesh)
acoustic dune
i blame space elf
placid fiber
Fair
hearty nebula
I thought John fucking Grammaticus shed light on this during the Horus heresy
didn't john grammaticus get retconned
grave nebula
knife ears but in space? even worse
acoustic dune
they are always space elf fault
grave nebula
they ruin everything
acoustic dune
i only like the space dwarf
static sky
didn't john grammaticus get retconned
You can’t retcon the main character
acoustic dune
ROCK AND STONE
grand tangle
how is it "unnatural"?
In 2 ways: it is formed almost completely by influence from humans, you are raised and taught how to think and communicate by other humans.
The other way it's unnatural is that the human mind is the ultimate source for all things unnatural, consciousness is the ultimate source of all 'unnaturalness'.
placid fiber
i only like the space dwarf
aren't space dwarves a bunch of clones? I forget
grave nebula
In 2 ways: it is formed almost completely by influence from humans, you are rais...
yeah but humans are apart of nature...
acoustic dune
they are space merchant
grand tangle
yeah but humans are apart of nature...
Are we?
acoustic dune
but prob
grand tangle
Are we really?
acoustic dune
nah we just spawn out of cheer will power
acoustic dune
nature is our like kitten
atomic matrix
Are we *really*?
Humans are, but humans also dumb
acoustic dune
dimb
grave nebula
Are we *really*?
how would we not be?
placid fiber
We burn nature <.<
static sky
Humans are, but humans also dumb
Nuff said.
grave nebula
We burn nature <.<
and?
hearty nebula
Are we *really*?
yes and no
anyone who says mankind is completely detached from nature is a fucking moron
grave nebula
Humans are, but humans also dumb
Humans are too smart for their own good and the good of nature
acoustic dune
smth smth ignorant is bliss
hearty nebula
we require it in order to live & thrive. if we didn't require nature to live then we wouldn't be part of it
grave nebula
smth smth ignorant is bliss
yes
grave nebula
https://tenor.com/view/rogal-dorn-no-gif-26277760
grand tangle
idk, I was trying to understand their point which I can't
My point was that human minds are created over decades by the societies they are born and raised in, and are some of the least natural things in existence
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/hae-il-kim-nam-gil-fiery-priest-gfmns-gif-25972492
we are powerful then god
static sky
https://tenor.com/view/tts-livid-absolutely-livid-emperor-gif-18135015
95 more surprised pikachu faces… your wasting opportunities
placid fiber
My point was that human minds are created over decades by the societies they are...
Maybe, but, we still live and breathe like nature
grand tangle
Your mind was literally created by your parents, from literally nothing
grand tangle
Artificial
atomic matrix
Humans are too smart for their own good and the good of nature
Humans are smart to make incredible stuff, but also incredibly unwise to do so many things that would lead to our own ruin (and nature's too)
acoustic dune
let us be that created him and god will remain our little kitten
hearty nebula
placid fiber
Artificial
acoustic dune
YEAH WOOO
hearty nebula
i like this guy he's grooving in beat to the music im listening to rn
static sky
yES!!!!!!
acoustic dune
https://open.spotify.com/track/1LgVBztKPwmxJyYK7Zf3n9
it didnt show me anythin
static sky
I wanna be the very best!!! Like no one ever was!!! Sing with me y’all
acoustic dune
did you copy it right?
hushed knoll
did you copy it right?
Omg hi wolfy
placid fiber
https://open.spotify.com/track/1LgVBztKPwmxJyYK7Zf3n9
Why do I hear boss music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iBexxYkTBw
hushed knoll
Hi darkpillthony
acoustic dune
o god its stan
grand tangle
TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAAAAAUUUSE
placid fiber
Hi Stan!
acoustic dune
phill get the image
hearty nebula
it didnt show me anythin
oh accidentally chopped off the last letter
placid fiber
lol I almost said satan lol
hearty nebula
whoops
hushed knoll
wtf
hearty nebula
fixed
hushed knoll
phill get the image
Phill?
grand tangle
Taco satan
static sky
TO CATCH THEM IS MY REAL TEST, TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAAAAAUUUSE
Po po Pokemom!!!
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/egg-soup-yum-sleebo-speech-bubble-gif-1795552249271399500...
EW WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
hearty nebula
why you only listen to old man music
plucky gate
I may have been playing wilds for a bit too long today
grand tangle
Lmao
hearty nebula
I may have been playing wilds for a bit too long today
incorrect
placid fiber
why you only listen to old man music
On a serious note: what do you think of the guitar riffs in this? >.> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5_tLV0B0h4
plucky gate
The only reason I stopped and checked was because my controller actually ran out of power
hearty nebula
this is a healthy amount of monsterhunter
plucky gate
I would've kept going...
hearty nebula
On a serious note: what do you think of the guitar riffs in this? >.> https://ww...
eh
plucky gate
"why is my controller dead? it can't have been that long right?"
static sky
It sounds like anger and despair
grave nebula
On a serious note: what do you think of the guitar riffs in this? >.> https://ww...
The last spell OST is a banger, The Algorithm is really good!
acoustic dune
ill show you old
placid fiber
It sounds like anger and despair
I mean... it is supposed to be for a town that's in the middle of a forest getting attacked by hordes of monsters during the night...
static sky
It’s not Creedance Clearwater Revival that’s for sure…
Lookin out my back door!!! Now that’s a banger
grave nebula
My point was that human minds are created over decades by the societies they are...
How is that unnatural though? All of our societal norms and actions are the creation of our natural inclinations
copper hawk
I agree w crimson ,,
grand tangle
How is that unnatural though? All of our societal norms and actions are the crea...
It is unnatural because it is artificial, created by people
static sky
Doo dooo doooo looking out my back door.
grand tangle
Like all unnatural things are
acoustic dune
Doo dooo doooo looking out my back door.
i like the cover fr suzie q
the song is neat
static sky
Did you know looking out my back door is about tripping balls on cid
grand tangle
Yeah me too
copper hawk
Rust economy
grand tangle
That's a good deal tbh
acoustic dune
chimp made what?
copper hawk
Can i have sum scwap pweese 
fleet zealot
acoustic dune
WTF IS THAT PFP
copper hawk
It's trippy to think that war is a natural inclination within hominidae
As well as our nearest living genetic relative
acoustic dune
whom yassifwy the ferret????
fleet zealot
whom yassifwy the ferret????
Darkpill
grave nebula
It is unnatural because it is artificial, created by people
but humans are not unnatural
we are apart of nature
copper hawk
Apes and monkies r pawesome
acoustic dune
@placid fiber WHY DID YOU YASSIFY THE FERRET???????
copper hawk
Im not a great ape
grave nebula
https://open.spotify.com/track/4NuH8DU6PpMJ8H867lmuML?si=ff9386fd9da741ec
finland mentioned, shit music though
hearty nebula
Im not a great ape
yeah ur puny
copper hawk
Im a ✨ FABULOUS ✨ ape
copper hawk
Kmsing rn 4 that
grand tangle
but humans are not unnatural
We are about as natural as modern dogs are, tens of thousands of years of selectively breeding happened to people just like it did to them
hearty nebula
finland mentioned, shit music though
sure, you're allowed to be wrong
placid fiber
<@280294444123553792> WHY DID YOU YASSIFY THE FERRET???????
cuz... idk cuz I could
signal spoke
insignificant
grand tangle
But I was always specifically talking about the human mind, not so much our bodies
grave nebula
Chimps r so cool man
because war and prostitution? 😂
hearty nebula
because war and prostitution? 😂
yes
copper hawk
"Selective breeding" in the way it happened to dogs isn't the same as evolution over millions of years
static sky
because war and prostitution? 😂
Cradle of civilization
placid fiber
I had put hats on the ferrets so long I decided to give it eyes instead, but, then put lips on afterwards @acoustic dune
copper hawk
Dogs becamr a thing in less than a blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking
To take your point further, dogs are unnatural
Look at chihuahuas
acoustic dune
cuz... idk cuz I could
hearty nebula
Man those mfers got the short end of the breeding stick
poodles too
grand tangle
Dogs becamr a thing in less than a blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking
What I'm saying is humans have been selected for by societal pressures rather than natural ones for about 10k years
placid fiber
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1092566487484604476...
frog did that to me and I said deserved
grave nebula
sure, you're allowed to be wrong
I pain to admit it as a Finn, but Swedish metal is better than Finnish one.
I'm open to change my mind when we have a finnish version of Humanity's last Breath and Vildhjarta
grand tangle
Excepting disease ofc
copper hawk
All dogs generally are artificial in the sense they wouldnt of happened on their own
acoustic dune
All dogs generally are artificial in the sense they wouldnt of happened on their...
example
borzoi
hearty nebula
borzois are funking awesome
acoustic dune
grand tangle
All dogs generally are artificial in the sense they wouldnt of happened on their...
This same logic applies to the human mind
copper hawk
Artificial, meaning a product of forced evolution via selective breeding - without human intervention the pug wouldnt of crawled out of the primordial goop
acoustic dune
my fav wolf hunter
copper hawk
This same logic applies to the human mind
I dont think so
Lots of animals possess similar levels of consciousness
A lot of animals are self aware
acoustic dune
copper hawk
Not a half a decade ago we thought people were the only things capable of self awareness
hearty nebula
im love great pyrenees they're so pretty
grave nebula
What I'm saying is humans have been selected for by societal pressures rather th...
but that "societal pressure" arises from natural pressure
acoustic dune
im love great pyrenees they're so pretty
i love all dogs
grave nebula
from our instincts
copper hawk
As it's considered a big hurdle to prove a kind of consciousness; eg a sense of self and one's place in the world
placid fiber
The last spell OST is a banger, The Algorithm is really good!
It's not often I can find a game with so many of the songs that I really like that aren't basically games from my childhood that I grew up with and have fond memories of
acoustic dune
static sky
Not a half a decade ago we thought people were the only things capable of self a...
Most humans are not self aware anymore. Look at the misuse of yoga pants nowadays.
copper hawk
Also, lots of animals and creatures are social; orcas and whales have their own language, elephants mourn their dead, and wolves will die of lonliness like people do
acoustic dune
cuz i miss my babby
i miss my lads and lass
i wanna lie on the grass
with da doggos
hearty nebula
hope i can go back home next winter and see her :(
copper hawk
Furthermore, culture isnt inherently a human construct either - orcas, for example, and some species of whales, have hunting practices others do not, and regional intonations to their squeaks
acoustic dune
hope i can go back home next winter and see her :(
its been 3 years for me
grand tangle
I dont think so
No other animals have spent this long being selected for by societies based on written language, math and law etc. You might call a pack of chimps a society, but it's the simplest form possible.
copper hawk
No other animals have spent this long being selected for by societies based on w...
Ours is just significantly advanced
hearty nebula
😔
copper hawk
There have been other hominidae as well
grave nebula
Furthermore, culture isnt inherently a human construct either - orcas, for examp...
Wait Orcas and some whales have "regional accents/dialects"???? REALLY?
acoustic dune
static sky
been stuck in the shithole that is tennessee
That’s rough. Hang in there. Don’t drink the water
copper hawk
Neanderthalensis, Erectus, Heidelbergensis
hearty nebula
There have been other hominidae as well
the humble crow:
grand tangle
Neanderthalensis, Erectus, Heidelbergensis
Yes, all extinct/outbred
copper hawk
All of which had their own cultures, languages, burial rituals, etc
placid fiber
Wait Orcas and some whales have "regional accents/dialects"???? REALLY?
Did you know orcas also only eat the livers of sharks? >.>
copper hawk
I think societies shape people, but they're "natural"
tidal berry
No other animals have spent this long being selected for by societies based on w...
All of the things you listed are very very, very recent things humans started doing in terms of evolutionary scale if you look at well.. time.
grave nebula
Did you know orcas also only eat the livers of sharks? >.>
huh, why?
acoustic dune
I think societies shape people, but they're "natural"
''society shape people''
queue in the kingpin
grave nebula
been stuck in the shithole that is tennessee
placid fiber
huh, why?
all the nutrients in it and I think their teeth can fall out somewhat easily(the former part I am 100% sure on, not the teeth part)
copper hawk
There was a big thing back in the day where we thought that human beings weren't unique and anything, with an inclination towards language or close to us genetically speaking, could learn language
hearty nebula
All of the things you listed are very very, very recent things humans started do...
in terms of a technological standpoint humans are still basically infantile
copper hawk
It was Behavioralists vs Chomsky types
acoustic dune
cica
static sky
I found out yesterday that spermy whales actively hunt orcas. That’s badass
acoustic dune
what are you babbling
copper hawk
The verdict was that no, other animals cannot replicate the way we communicate-furthermore, language is an innate imperative to human beings
placid fiber
google says this @grave nebula
arctic geyser
why is someone doing a thesis on animal consciousness on Zealot chat ?
acoustic dune
I found out yesterday that spermy whales actively hunt orcas. That’s badass
i still cant get over the fact that dolphin get high on puffer fish
grand tangle
All of the things you listed are very very, very recent things humans started do...
While that's true, it's still been 7-10 thousand years. It's enough for changes to happen, especially since human minds(usually) decide who humans procreate with, who is seen as an attractive partner can depend on how well you do in society and not in nature
copper hawk
If you are born deaf, you will communicate in a proto sign language - deaf children will babble with signs without being taught, and will find a way to communicate without urging or teaching
acoustic dune
why is someone doing a thesis on animal consciousness on Zealot chat ?
we have a lot of furry here
its bound to happen
static sky
i still cant get over the fact that dolphin get high on puffer fish
They are the goats of the oceans
acoustic dune
like that harkness test
arctic geyser
we have a lot of furry here
its bound to happen
I want to know as little as possible then
hearty nebula
If you are born deaf, you will communicate in a proto sign language - deaf child...
yeah humans are just inherently inclined to communicate with their peers via speech or other means
grave nebula
google says this <@151300419438510080>
In my language we call them "Sword Whales"
copper hawk
Language is something that human beings are innately inclined to produce and learn - it's as natural to us behaviorally as, say, being hungry, or needing water
placid fiber
In my language we call them "Sword Whales"
ngl sword whales sounds badass
hushed knoll
Language is something that human beings are innately inclined to produce and lea...
Well said
hearty nebula
you can literally leave a child in the wilderness for years and then take them into human society and they'll adapt fine for the most part
grand tangle
why is someone doing a thesis on animal consciousness on Zealot chat ?
I am backing my claim that the human mind/consciousness is the least natural thing in existence, as well as the origin of all other unnatural things
copper hawk
While that's true, it's still been 7-10 thousand years. It's enough for changes ...
Well, I don't think so - on the last part
acoustic dune
bruh
grand tangle
Well, I don't think so - on the last part
Well sometimes alcohol and hormones does it instead
acoustic dune
anyhow back to normal zealot chat behaviour
arctic geyser
I am backing my claim that the human mind/consciousness is the least natural thi...
So a philosophical debate then. I guess cicatrices explains that consciousness is quite natural tho
grave nebula
ngl sword whales sounds badass
but then again we call Belugas "Milkwhales" 😅
arctic geyser
Well sometimes alcohol and hormones does it instead
Like Monkey !
copper hawk
Although I concede many traits people find attractive may be societally defined, lots of attractive aspects are similar among many and all cultures - look at historical, like ancient, art for example - and a lot of attraction is derived from biological, or natural, inclinations
acoustic dune
but then again we call Belugas "Milkwhales" 😅
milky whale :bitelips:
copper hawk
Such as wide hips etc - or sexual preferences that cannot be changed, no matter how long yoh stick someone like me in a conversion camp
tidal berry
While that's true, it's still been 7-10 thousand years. It's enough for changes ...
That depends on whether you decide with your intellect or instincts, and most do with the latter. Which is why when you apply for a job if you're more attractive chances are you are more likely to nail that job and other things, like people are just nicer to someone more attractive or cute or whatever. These aren't really thoughts fueled by rationality its emotions.
static sky
I was on the 1 scale of that, since furry things never have interested me
It all started because of your furriness I think
acoustic dune
I was on the 1 scale of that, since furry things never have interested me
i think i am still on dangerious furry scale
bc i like chimera
copper hawk
These aren't artificial inclinations, eg culturally imposed or whatever, these are biological desires hardwired into you
acoustic dune
sadly dont know them often anymore
copper hawk
But yes, I agree that a lot of these are culturally defined, but much of it is biologically driven
fleet zealot
Mods are either going to re enact slow mode or start bonking people
acoustic dune
i blame sans undertale making me a furry
arctic geyser
Although I concede many traits people find attractive may be societally defined,...
I would kind of disagree about the latter part since "beauty symbol" did change a lot, like chubby girl used to be the top women in the 1700 and now you want skinny or fit 
fleet zealot
Wtf
grave nebula
milky whale :bitelips:
it is used as slang to refer to women with big you know whats too
arctic geyser
(in western culture )
placid fiber
i think i am still on dangerious furry scale
I mean... furry art can be good looking and well done, but, it doesn't trip my trigger and never has. Even when I was an active brony nothing furry related interested me in the slightest
tidal berry
Just because you evolved a brain doesn't mean you can't be a slave to your instincts and funny brain chemicals, free will itself is questionable
anyway
meow
acoustic dune
I would kind of disagree about the latter part since "beauty symbol" did change ...
big butt was also frown upon not long ago
copper hawk
Mods are either going to re enact slow mode or start bonking people
We're just yappin
Knify is bein weird
Per usual..
Zigh..
arctic geyser
big butt was also frown upon not long ago
Yeah and now it seems to be back on business with the whole " EXTRA THICC culture
static sky
Mods are either going to re enact slow mode or start bonking people
They’ll take one look at that pfp and swing the ban hammer down on you broski
fleet zealot
Kniffy going to go the way of lummi
acoustic dune
Knify is bein weird
its hard to keep it under control but i do try
fleet zealot
They’ll take one look at that pfp and swing the ban hammer down on you broski
Dpw made it
I claim innocence
placid fiber
^
static sky
Dpw made it
Snitches get stitches
arctic geyser
Concerning sexual preferences in terms of gender, we have sadlyt many cases that proves that they are more natural than social (sadly because the methods were not kind )
fleet zealot
Snitches get stitches
Talkers get walkers
placid fiber
I claim innocence
I claim full responsibility, because ferret posts are needed here
copper hawk
I would kind of disagree about the latter part since "beauty symbol" did change ...
This trend has stayed really the same, like with men - at around the 15th or 16th centuries, something called a "wasp waist" was made a lot in historical armor for men; at the time, beauty for men was to have a very thin waist, as it showed athleticism and strength, so not much has changed since then
static sky
Talkers get walkers
I can’t compete
acoustic dune
I mean... furry art can be good looking and well done, but, it doesn't trip my t...
i used to do a brony request back in my war thunder days
spent a day to draw it and colour it
now
now i am too lazy to even pass a day finishing a character
copper hawk
Hawk TUAH
acoustic dune
its wack
hearty nebula
how the fuck did lumii get banned when i'm a cunt more often than they are
acoustic dune
why am i so fucking lazy
hearty nebula
💀
acoustic dune
how the fuck did lumii get banned when i'm a cunt more often than they are
argue with too much people
grave nebula
I would kind of disagree about the latter part since "beauty symbol" did change ...
sure but is that about an innate biological attraction that changes with culture or just cultural norms imposed on a default biological attraction?
copper hawk
how the fuck did lumii get banned when i'm a cunt more often than they are
Death by a thousand cuts is what mods said
acoustic dune
too much enenmy basically
placid fiber
how the fuck did lumii get banned when i'm a cunt more often than they are
according to one of the mods it was a death by 1000 cuts, basically
static sky
Someone got banned from discord!?? That’s a real thing?
copper hawk
U know darktide is borin af when we're discussing human nature in discord
hearty nebula
according to one of the mods it was a death by 1000 cuts, basically
that's gotta be against the geneva conventions or some shit
copper hawk
I havent played in nearly a month
arctic geyser
In Fr*nce.
We don't do that but I wish we did 
, altough I would argue that the lumberjack is not very much think waisted but it's true that many 'men sex symbol" are shaped like V on their torso
acoustic dune
Someone got banned from discord!?? That’s a real thing?
i still havent finish his dr house drawing piece
RIP
fleet zealot
too much enenmy basically
Im in the danger zone
placid fiber
Im in the danger zone
You are? How?
copper hawk
On the 3rd I will have been a month sober of Darktide
static sky
How does one truly get banned from this lawless wasteland?
fleet zealot
I got a lot of ops
grave nebula
big butt was also frown upon not long ago
by who? every greek statue has a proper rump, medieval depictions, renaissance etc.
hearty nebula
On the 3rd I will have been a month sober of Darktide
congrats bestie
acoustic dune
by who? every greek statue has a proper rump, medieval depictions, renaissance e...
the 20s century
well late 20s
like how cod piece being in fashion
hearty nebula
How does one truly get banned from this lawless wasteland?
- be incredibly stupid
- be mean too much
that's about it really
acoustic dune
and that pink was a colour for boys
arctic geyser
sure but is that about an innate biological attraction that changes with culture...
Considering we went from one deep end to the other about big butt or thin waist, I would assume that cultural norm now precedes, and the reason of the cultural norm might not be sexual attraction and more encouraging certain product consumption (the beauty industry did shape our beauty standard when the whole goal was not kids but sell expansive cream and thin pill )
acoustic dune
i like hot pink
copper hawk
Know that millions of years of evolution have culminated in the creation of Fingerboy
hearty nebula
which is why i'm confused about it
hearty nebula
Know that millions of years of evolution have culminated in the creation of Fing...
u
grand tangle
But yes, I agree that a lot of these are culturally defined, but much of it is b...
So back to discussing the human mind instead of procreation lmao
Ppl here have heard of the nature vs nurture argument right? I'm not really gonna take a stance and assume it's 50/50 arbitrarily. I think it's also fair to say that for the past 100 years at least, the 'nurture' half has been nearly 100% artificial for most people, at least everyone I know. How much of the 'nature' side do you think is still 'natural' after thousands of years and hundreds of generations? If you don't think there could be major changes in that time, look at what we did to dogs within a few hundred generations. Dobermans and toy poodles didn't exist in the 1600s
placid fiber
1. be incredibly stupid
2. be mean too much
This... is probably true because saying slurs is stupid in a public official discord :/
static sky
1. be incredibly stupid
2. be mean too much
Dam… dude must have been a monster. I bet he’s over in Pokemon chat now. They are unhinged. Like the chaos wastes of our reality
hearty nebula
Dam… dude must have been a monster. I bet he’s over in Pokemon chat now. They ar...
nah
lumii was fine
acoustic dune
its basicaly this
warning: thigh highs
placid fiber
lumi was just very outspoken I think
acoustic dune
i am gonna need to refing the artist
static sky
Pour one out for our lost brother limo!!! He was a real one. To real some would say.
arctic geyser
sure but is that about an innate biological attraction that changes with culture...
It also raises a "distrinction" between societal norm and the average individual norm, IE what "society" says look good may not impact the individual on how they chooses their partner , so "Societal norm" and "biologic attraction" are completely disjointed
grand tangle
its basicaly this
warning: thigh highs
Leggings were much more historically common for men than thigh highs
grave nebula
its basicaly this
warning: thigh highs
This fit is masculine as fuck though
arctic geyser
Like we used to enjoy fat women because they were proof we kept our family well fed for instance, not related to their child bearing ability
(altough having many children was also a proof of being well fed and financially comfortable)
static sky
Like we used to enjoy fat women because they were proof we kept our family well ...
Used to?!?? Bro I live for them chunk bishes
acoustic dune
(altough having many children was also a proof of being well fed and financiall...
tldr
baby bearing hips is ALWAYS hot
hearty nebula
tl;dr people like curves
arctic geyser
Used to?!?? Bro I live for them chunk bishes
Yes but you don't like fat women as a token of yourt ability to take her to McDonald every day
placid fiber
I'm going back to happy wheels videos and youtube for now :/
arctic geyser
tldr
baby bearing hips is ALWAYS hot
unless you are a member of the Fashion industry before 2020 where being a human skeleton seemed to be peak women anatomy
static sky
Yes but you don't like fat women as a token of yourt ability to take her to McDo...
I pride myself on fulfilling their endless hunger for lovins and muffins.
hearty nebula
i cant find the original artist
check dm
acoustic dune
nvm found it
static sky
McMuffins!!!
arctic geyser
I pride myself on fulfilling their endless hunger for lovins and muffins.
Mankind truly never change then , Like our ancestor used to draw dick on the bath house of Athene, our modern man still enjoy overfeeding their women
hearty nebula
my friend messaged me out of the blue this morning (i haven't spoken to them in months)
static sky
Mankind truly never change then <:loregryn:1036580674741731379> , Like our ances...
Yay Yay!! Hoody Hooooo
acoustic dune
my friend messaged me out of the blue this morning (i haven't spoken to them in ...
guh
grave nebula
my friend messaged me out of the blue this morning (i haven't spoken to them in ...
lmao
arctic geyser
my friend messaged me out of the blue this morning (i haven't spoken to them in ...
Bring them here I guess
arctic geyser
nah she's stupid
You should truly bring her here then 
gonna feel right at home
static sky
incapable of darktiding
We do anything but that here. Shell fit right in
hearty nebula
nah
static sky
I like em dumb too!!! Bring that gal over to daddy phat
hearty nebula
I like em dumb too!!! Bring that gal over to daddy phat
arctic geyser
Phatticus looking for dumb furry fat women
acoustic dune
Phatticus looking for dumb furry fat women
its not fat
its chubby
static sky
Always. They snuggle the best
frosty herald
arctic geyser
its not fat
its chubby
Gotta be real it would roll less well out of the tongue on that sentence , but call them what you want
acoustic dune
speaking of which i should continue my chubby nurgle genderbent piece
hearty nebula
its not fat
its chubby
fat fuck
arctic geyser
speaking of which i should continue my chubby nurgle genderbent piece
now you got me confused 🤔
like nurgle the god nurgle
acoustic dune
like nurgle the god nurgle
yarp
copper hawk
So back to discussing the human mind instead of procreation lmao
Ppl here have ...
"Nurture" can come from numerous sources. Most can be from environment, and some can come from culture. I don't suppose anyone could have a 100% "artificial" nurture, whatever that means. Would artificial mean living in a human environment, such as one produced and sustained by human beings? Would a bee born in a hive be in a 100% nurture society because it was raised entirely within the safety of the hive? You might want to define what you mean by "100% artificial nurture", and quantify what "artificial" means, along with defining what a pure 0% would be, or what a pure 100% would be, to give us a bounding box to talk in.
In the "100s of generations" bit, I'd contend it was all "natural". Nothing is more natural than extinction of a species, which is what became of our nearest relatives, leaving us the last Hominid. Dogs are a bad example I think because it's clear that we are what produced them. Their evolutionary pressures were dictated by the environment of their humans - and they bred these dogs for traits they wanted. I would contend they are "artificial" in that they simply didn't exist a little while ago, like you said, and much changed to dogs in that period of time. This was forced and selective breeding, though - this was rapid evolution with the intent of rapid speciation. Human beings could do this, as the equivalent would probably be designet babies where, like we did with dogs, we can directly control and direct humab evolution through genetic manipulation of specific traits, but these things haven't ever been attempted on the scale like that of dogs. Natural environmental pressures, like other humans and predation from animals or natural disasters, which primarily have always dominated human development since before we were Sapiens, isn't comparable to a a species whose changes were directed, with clear intent and goals, and regulated by just one other animal. We nurtured dogs, we were nurtured by nature.
acoustic dune
i drew nurgle hot
hearty nebula
cicatrices 💅 ✨🍵 is typing...
static sky
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059238885026172928/1152460873756070018...
You can’t post pics of animals here. It gets our furry population all hot and bothered. That’s the last thing we need
hearty nebula
You can’t post pics of animals here. It gets our furry population all hot and bo...
yeah you'd know all about it
wouldn't you
freak
get out
grave nebula
You can’t post pics of animals here. It gets our furry population all hot and bo...
Why is the ZEALOT channel so fucking zesty 😭
acoustic dune
You can’t post pics of animals here. It gets our furry population all hot and bo...
please never utter that phrase not anything close to it
static sky
Why is the ZEALOT channel so fucking zesty 😭
We do the emperors work
grand tangle
"Nurture" can come from numerous sources. Most can be from environment, and some...
so you're arguing that because all things have their origin in nature, all living things are natural? do you think unnatural things even exist? you gonna call pugs and bulldogs natural?
acoustic dune
Why is the ZEALOT channel so fucking zesty 😭
alot of HEMA enthusiast are furry
hearty nebula
phatticus stop trying to get us slapped with slowmode you fucking moron
grave nebula
alot of HEMA enthusiast are furry
bruh why
static sky
phatticus stop trying to get us slapped with slowmode you fucking moron
Get fucked
grave nebula
then again I have seen so many Furry N*zi pictures that nothing make sense anymore
copper hawk
http://www.reallylong.link/rll/eN8JwClqEJ6UDL6Klyka4l7/mwv9JpswMbjN2epe1490YgZ75...
Holy fucking link batman
grave nebula
- all the weirdo online fascists have some loli anime profilepic
arctic geyser
so you're arguing that because all things have their origin in nature, all livin...
To be honest what argument would you use to dissociate mankind and their creation from nature ?
Do you consider a beaver's bridge to be unnatural for instance ?
acoustic dune
then again I have seen so many Furry N*zi pictures that nothing make sense anymo...
oh thats the warthunder player base
dont mind it
grand tangle
To be honest what argument would you use to dissociate mankind and their creatio...
all things unnatural have their origin in the human mind
hearty nebula
can you not
arctic geyser
all things unnatural have their origin in the human mind
Are you religious ?
arctic geyser
not really?
I would have used God are the origin of the world and thus human is natural as a answer then, but it would not work here TBH it's quite hard to settle on the 'human are un/natural" debate without delving into specism, and I am not willing, plus cicatrices did it already
stone fern
thrust heavy sword my beloved.....
static sky
can you not
It’s seems like you’re trying to be a typical Discord mod…. But failing at that. Get a new hobby buddy. Your cunty vibes aren’t welcome around here. Calling me a moron crossed the line….
acoustic dune
thrust heavy sword my beloved.....
god i love the heavy sword
arctic geyser
Anyways I agree on a "societal perspective"because it helps properly evaluate our impact on our planet as a species, but also disagree because we are natural being and what our brain makes are ,as a consequences, just as natural
copper hawk
so you're arguing that because all things have their origin in nature, all livin...
I conceded that point on pugs and bulldogs being unnatural in my second paragraph, and also concluded with my reasoning behind it. As I said, pugs' and bulldogs' evolutionary pressures were artificial. They are artificial in that nature did not dictate their growth, but rather another creature - that creature's evolutionary pressures and needs were imposed onto dogs with intent. This makes them artificial - they wouldn't exist without intent and intervention from real hooman beans. I think you mightve missed my point.
grave nebula
I would have used God are the origin of the world and thus human is natural as a...
But sin has corrupted the human mind and sin is against God and being against God is being against all of creation itself too and so on and so on etc. etc. blah blah 
hearty nebula
It’s seems like you’re trying to be a typical Discord mod…. But failing at that....
ok moron
arctic geyser
But sin has corrupted the human mind and sin is against God and being against Go...
Let's not delve into theology ,this is always a bad idea
grave nebula
I would have used God are the origin of the world and thus human is natural as a...
Humans are natural, but if sin has corrupted our mind, then unnatural things would spring from the human mind corrupted by sin
copper hawk
But sin has corrupted the human mind and sin is against God and being against Go...
Lmfao smugjak
Woah, jack ! O algo
hearty nebula
I conceded that point on pugs and bulldogs being unnatural in my second paragrap...
pitbulls too
grand tangle
I conceded that point on pugs and bulldogs being unnatural in my second paragrap...
ah, i did
acoustic dune
Woah, jack ! O algo
wojack???
acoustic dune
hasty raft
8===D~~~
copper hawk
THAT would be a better comparison w dogs methinks
Cuz ur like literally changin ppl w intent to direct them to ur ends
acoustic dune
we are so going back to the era of slow mode arent wee
grave nebula
Let's not delve into theology ,this is always a bad idea <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188...
Yeah true, cause at the end of the day I am right and you are wrong
arctic geyser
Humans are natural, but if sin has corrupted our mind, then unnatural things wou...
To be honest there is argumentation that , since god made everything, then he also made Sin, especially since if Sin comes from the Devil, being made by god (and without the free will you can use for human) then Sinning is as much in our nature than not sinning, it also assume that every of our creation are born from Sin when Farming and building house and Temple is the will of god
static sky
we are so going back to the era of slow mode arent wee
Inevitable
copper hawk
Condensing hundreds of thousands of human evolutionary development in like
arctic geyser
Sheit I am delving into theology
neon relic
thoughts on crusher vs thunder hammer?
acoustic dune
To be honest there is argumentation that , since god made everything, then he al...
lemme go get that clip from the hitch hiker guide book
arctic geyser
thoughts on crusher vs thunder hammer?
It works but it was nerfed a bit when they buffed the Thammer
grand tangle
Like u know designer babies
maybe... but isnt marrying attractive/succesful people with the intent of having attractive/sucessful children basically the same thing as designer babies? just before genetic modification was a thing?
copper hawk
And has some unique properties that make it useful in killing big enemies
stone fern
thoughts on crusher vs thunder hammer?
crusher is kinda better but thammer is more fun
copper hawk
It suffers against bosses though
acoustic dune
copper hawk
THammer struggles against chaff but excels in single target
It doesnt have nearly the same CC potential as crusher does
copper hawk
Crusher can send Crushers on their ass in two hits
And u dont need Grievous Wounds to stagger ragers
(U need GW w THammer to stagger ragers if they're in their running or standing combos)
grave nebula
To be honest there is argumentation that , since god made everything, then he al...
well ehh not really, he created the possibility of sinning in us, but he didn't create sin itself. Sin is more so the rejection of God, rejection of life and goodness itself and embracing the Godless, embracing death and destruction
copper hawk
Tl dr Crusher is a generalist with bonuses in CC and is good in single target damage
THammer is a boss deleter
violet hornet
I thought crusher works vs bosses since it's a finesse weapon, just not as effective as a thammer ofc
grave nebula
To be honest there is argumentation that , since god made everything, then he al...
and I would say that our nature is good, but sin has just added "dirt" on top of that good nature, corrupted it. but at its base it is good and sinless
arctic geyser
well ehh not really, he created the possibility of sinning in us, but he didn't ...
Sinning can be boiled down to " refusing the will of god" and is possible for mankind thank to the whole apple ordeal
So if God did not create the apple , or the snake, Sin would have never been
grave nebula
Sheit I am delving into theology
THATS WHAT ZEALOTRY IS ALL ABOUT 
remote wasp
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grave nebula
thoughts on crusher vs thunder hammer?
Crusher=good
Thammer=bad
static sky
When are y’all gonna bring up the Annunaki????
acoustic dune
chat what is this
grand tangle
thammer=bad
crusher=bad
join evi gang today
stone fern
wrong were thust heavy sword gang now
arctic geyser
just pick a chaxe
stone fern
ew
copper hawk
maybe... but isnt marrying attractive/succesful people with the intent of having...
Yah I suppose yeah, but it wasn't attempted on a massive scale - and when it was done even a little bit it led to the Habsburg chinny chin chin. I'd say it was certainly an attempt, but no designer children of this kind exist anymore - but rottweilers and stuff exist
grave nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N5e1R4-G9I
I think this might be a joke about people trying to come up with logical arguments that God does not exist, but whatever it is. it is funny + I like the animation/artstyle
copper hawk
I guess if u like took it to the super extreme u could make it like dogs
But it hasn't happened yet, and evidence of it existing doesn't really exist anymore
People are too diverse and complicated to do it the dog way methinks, it'd take too fucking long
And if u fuck up even once u get the King Charles of the Crimson Chin
acoustic dune
KING CRIMSON???
copper hawk
I'd say somethin like
Human threat being a driver for human evolution would be like artificial in the sense u use the word
grave nebula
Sinning can be boiled down to " refusing the will of god" and is possible for ma...
Sure, god created the possibility for humans to embrace sin, but he did not create sin. Sin is not merely disobeying some divine dictator, it is going against the nature of creation, it is going against that which is good, that which is life.
copper hawk
But idk, human societies have a natural proclivity to war, much like other societal critters, so it's like a grey area
Nature of the beast is that they fight, so it's a natural pressure as well
It's just hellishly complicated
Cuz human beins r awesome
My fav animal
grand tangle
my point was that our minds, specifically, have been selected for more than any other part of us ever since civilization became a thing, which was about 7k years ago last time i checked
its not unfeasible to say they are as different from what they were back when other hominins were around as wolves are from dogs
fleet zealot
thoughts on crusher vs thunder hammer?
crusher= combo bopper all rounder
thammer= big hitter
copper hawk
I always feel like a chudling redditor when ppl ask what's ur fav animal and i say human
So i just say like
Cuttlefish or something
grand tangle
also human procilivity for war is lesser than other societal animals like ants
static sky
Cuttlefish or something
What about llamas?
fleet zealot
no it's ferrets
grave nebula
and chimps
fleet zealot
look at that little guy getting scared by the wall
copper hawk
my point was that our minds, specifically, have been selected for more than any ...
Well, we domesticated dogs like 14k years ago so
hearty nebula
my favorite creature?
grave nebula
also human procilivity for war is lesser than other societal animals like ants
ants still out here kidnapping children of other races for slavery while we stopped that shit centuries ago... grow up ants smhmyhead 💀
copper hawk
To contend that the human mind 7k years ago was "less evolved" than that of now rlly doesnt hold up
static sky
look at it go
Majestic AF
hearty nebula
shut up
copper hawk
If we were able to domesticate an animal twice as long ago
And "civilizations" like settled societies aren't the only kind of society, either - just the one that dominates the world noe
Now*
We were hunter gatherers, with unique languages and traditions, for muuuuch longer
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/sea-slug-spanish-dancer-animals-gif-27294761
alien
arctic geyser
Sure, god created the possibility for humans to embrace sin, but he did not crea...
I reallty want to crawn back into my atheist hole tbh
copper hawk
Which means bigger brain
arctic geyser
Ima leave you on this
copper hawk
Like, significantly bigger
And they were smaller, in terms of stature, than sapiens
Albeit a bit wider
arctic geyser
short king
grand tangle
Hawk tuah monster
grand tangle
https://tenor.com/view/cuttlefish-metasepia-pfefferi-gif-17987945
tzeentch abomination
hearty nebula
https://tenor.com/view/cuttlefish-squid-underwater-amazing-gif-17821838
bro about to activate the seizure procedure
grand tangle
aren't they?
copper hawk
But they're relatively young for ocean critters evolutionarily speaking
grand tangle
i thought they were descended from ammonites
copper hawk
aren't they?
Yah they were both cephas but the ammonites r their own group
grave nebula
I reallty want to crawn back into my atheist hole tbh <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322...
hehe epic debate won, I am such a theological genius
copper hawk
Oh
arctic geyser
hehe epic debate won, I am such a theological genius <:SoySmug:12142118805669151...
Real and Fact Ckeched by true Scientologist
heady rapids
wanna see an actual cool critter
copper hawk
Last extant species of its entire like family
hearty nebula
arent cuttlefish cephalopods
heady rapids
copper hawk
grave nebula
Real and Fact Ckeched by true Scientologist
This post was fact checked by the Holy Orthodoxy
acoustic dune
what am i looking at
copper hawk
NA paddlefish
static sky
Spatula!!!!!
acoustic dune
copper hawk
It's the last species of paddlefish in duh whole worl
copper hawk
Lmfao
fleet zealot
alright it's one of those days
copper hawk
Noob elf down
fleet zealot
not even elf
copper hawk
Returning to hq..
fleet zealot
i was merc
hearty nebula
noob
fleet zealot
idk what she was doing i join, press F and then i'm taking damage from my ass, I block and turn around and she's just trying to fire around me i guess
copper hawk
In a land before elevation..
I love playin ranged chars and shooting my teammates
Instead of finding an elevated position
Skaven mindset
acoustic dune
wheres the chad version
arctic geyser
wheres the chad version
not bothered to look for it
copper hawk
acoustic dune
there
copper hawk
Blue eyeroll
grave nebula
I wish Kostaltyn had more unique units that would fit him, like wish there were some kind of zealots
copper hawk
Metalocalypse?
arctic geyser
I wish Kostaltyn had more unique units that would fit him, like wish there were ...
like the imperial zealot unit that alredy exist for the empire ?
grave nebula
like the imperial zealot unit that alredy exist for the empire ?
yeah kinda something like that
He is a zealot, but all the units are just regular ahh soldiers
and even so
the units he buffs are so low level and boring
hearty nebula
arctic geyser
would be indeed funny to have "prayer' mechanic where they rage on moral break like zealot and slayer but with Kislevite unit
unless all religious hero are dead
never played it tbh tho
so I don't know
grave nebula
would be indeed funny to have "prayer' mechanic where they rage on moral break l...
yee
grand tangle
had to remove due to gigolo
what
static sky
That cat has the face of a mountain lion. 10/10 I wouldn’t wanna fight it either.
grizzled aspen
Metalocalypse?
Yes, he looks like Pickles.
acoustic dune
Yes, he looks like Pickles.
yeah he does look like toki
full nebula
full nebula
This is our new god emperor
grand tangle
full nebula
Wym, skull and bones came out not too long ago, right?
slate notch
Is anyone using blazing piety build with combat axe?
wraith zephyr
Wym, skull and bones came out not too long ago, right?
wraith zephyr
Get bricked. >:{
grand tangle
Wym, skull and bones came out not too long ago, right?
signal spoke
Get bricked. >:{
Get rocked instead
atomic fjord
Get bricked. >:{
Dw I’m bricked every time I see rannick
wraith zephyr
Dw I’m bricked every time I see rannick
placid fiber
Is anyone using blazing piety build with combat axe?
piety is the worst keystones to use with the combat axe
both marty and inexorable judgement are better for it
slate notch
piety is the worst keystones to use with the combat axe
I've always used inexorable, that's why I'm asking, in case I'm missing something super good, I dunno, need new content I guess, lol
crimson quail
Tfw you finally learn the cleave combo on the relic blade 😌
placid fiber
I've always used inexorable, that's why I'm asking, in case I'm missing somethin...
I've heard of people using piety, but, piety is off meta for the combat axe
both ij and marty help it reach breakpoints iirc
slate notch
Want to try anything good to get the most attack speed possible with the combat axe, it feels so slow after the duolingo sword
placid fiber
marty might be your best bet there, technically speaking, on the rashad since you can get up to 24% constant attack speed on top of the 10% talent
placid fiber
personally I do 2 wounds and 1 toughness on marty, which makes the cap 20% but that's me
north sedge
most things are gonna feel slow after the one of the most busted weapons in the game
placid fiber
^
slate notch
most things are gonna feel slow after the one of the most busted weapons in the ...
Yeah, definitely
placid fiber
Especially if you go ogryn after using the ds a bunch
slate notch
Especially if you go ogryn after using the ds a bunch
It's so frustrating I think I can no longer play ogryn
placid fiber
I am connected enough to the crucis thammer that ogryn is easily playable for me even after using the ds4 a ton
it is kinda rough for a game or 2 after a bunch of fast weapon useage going back to ogryn tho
north sedge
Just adjust to different speed and enjoy
placid fiber
Just adjust to different speed and enjoy
That's basically all it takes. :3
hard nexus
fleet zealot
god i hate vt2 p2p
like if i have good connection DT is fine but because I live in bumtuck montana 99% of vt2 lobbies will lag
welp and now i got a red charm
from a random chest
PEOPLE really thought this system is better than dt both suck
heady rapids
it was a million times better than pre unlocked and loaded thats for sure
copper hawk
I have discovered an antihistamine to end all antihistamines
I need 2 try it 2 sleep
heady rapids
nah that's delusional, how is having to grind to upgrade different weapons(that you also need to find a good stat distro on) to maybe have a chance of getting a blessing you need better than just roll things with dust out of maybe 5-6 perk options
or with reds that you literally can deed abuse to get an insane amount of
copper hawk
Pre unlocked is wayyyy better
Id buy 20 weapons for a god roll
Id have to play a shit ton of matches to maybe roll a red
W all grims and all books
heady rapids
yeah but you dont need a red
and pre unlocked didnt guarantee you shit
i remember rolling like 6 plasmas in a row that had the exact same blessings
dogshit system
carmine falcon
Pre unlocked fans have Stockholm syndrome
copper hawk
U wouldnt get guaranteed a red
copper hawk
And oranges have a less chance to roll perfect stats
In all the time i played vt2 i got one godroll orange
A billhook
heady rapids
it literally didnt
copper hawk
An empy vault has a 20% to give you ONE red
heady rapids
i have red trinkets charms and shit in the 10s
heady rapids
An empy vault has a 20% to give you ONE red
and you get two from a deed
copper hawk
Every lower grade is SIGNIFICANTLY lower
heady rapids
that you can run in 3 mins
an infinite amount of times
in darktide you only had an option to just grind and pray for a good orange
and good luck for weps with big blessing pools
in v2 the only downside was needing a 2nd player
carmine falcon
Death to rng
heady rapids
running this on recruit would take like 5m on bell and 3-4 on pit if you're skillful enough to abuse oob
you could get all the reds you wanted provided you could make someone join your lobby
carmine falcon
Someone needs to make a mod that let's me consecrate multiple weapons together
Tedious af to do it to the 30 something weapons u need to max out mastery
sullen forge
The only red I’ve gotten was a Greatsword
copper hawk
So grind out a hard ass mission.. for a chance at a red
heady rapids
no?
copper hawk
Vs... grind missions for a chance at a god roll
heady rapids
literally run through bell on recruit
skip all enemies
get 2 chests
instead of a literal casino
no thank youuu
copper hawk
Still a casino u roll every time u open the chest
bitter charm
pre locked and loaded was the worst itemisation system in any game I've ever played
including VT2
copper hawk
Lmfao playing recruit to cheese the boxes somehow being different than playing heresy for easy dockets
carmine falcon
Bros Really had to roll for blessings 🙏 😭
copper hawk
I think we're all wearing rose tinted glasses
bitter charm
you had a better chance to get reds from a box then you did to get 2/4 relevant blessing/perk for your weapon in DT
copper hawk
Depending on the weapon
Yah
Except the issue isnt the odds, it's the time at the slot machine
heady rapids
then you would get 2/4 choices locked
bitter charm
i think I remember spending 10mil on a weapon in DT before giving up
copper hawk
Either you grind out normally playing well on Legend for Empy chests
So like 20 mins a chest
heady rapids
wanna try a different blessing combo? do all of that again
bitter charm
and VT never had the misery of getting a perfectly rolled base weapon, then having it brick at Hadron
like fuck me it was terrible
copper hawk
Or a damnation match to roll slots a bit w plasteel and dockets
Or dia if u dont play damnation
bitter charm
you could be there for hours
bitter charm
i only did for the skinz
copper hawk
and VT never had the misery of getting a perfectly rolled base weapon, then havi...
Yah it only costing a dust a reroll is nice
heady rapids
just had 300 oranges, slapped swift slaying at it was ready to go
heady rapids
i only did for the skinz
REAL
copper hawk
I wanted reds to min max
heady rapids
first actual real problem
copper hawk
That's it rlly
heady rapids
skins were ohuhuhhghh
copper hawk
I only played chaos wastes so i never used them lmfao
Or deeds for fun
Or Ubersreik to troll w the stash
bitter charm
took me something like 2500 hours before I finally saw the red pistol skins
copper hawk
copper hawk
I always thought the like runic glowing shit was cringe
heady rapids
but in vermintide you at least could guarantee a godroll with x amount of time spent
copper hawk
I used w my gotrek larp
heady rapids
cause even if you got shit reds
you could dust them
then upgrade what you wanted to use
bitter charm
ye exac
copper hawk
Me grinding out 3 dogshit reds to finally dust them for a pittance
heady rapids
unlocked and loaded is the best one by far yea
carmine falcon
Play the fucking game
Wild concept
copper hawk
Player retention functioned on the gambling at hadron
carmine falcon
Me when I play Vidya and get rewarded 
north sedge
No i think gacha might be slightly better than trying to make a th back then
copper hawk
Only thing that prevented it genuinely being a gacha is u cant buy dockets for real money
heady rapids
well we still have gacha with curios now
so still technically worse than vermtinide................
copper hawk
Verminsludge
carmine falcon
I had to keep an eye on the ship hourly to get my curios fast
fleet zealot
nah that's delusional, how is having to grind to upgrade different weapons(that ...
because dust values were rng
lol
carmine falcon
Absolute buffoonery
placid fiber
then upgrade what you wanted to use
you had to do that for red dlc weapons
heady rapids
you had to do that for red dlc weapons
they drop from chests now tbh
gray compass
I had to keep an eye on the ship hourly to get my curios fast
i just spam melk's for curios ngl
fleet zealot
loot locked behind fucking easter egg hunting
copper hawk
Sire Mulch
placid fiber
they drop from chests now tbh
oh, really? cuz I got 1 of every red weapon a while ago lol (aside from necromancer stuff)
copper hawk
Mulch bucks
carmine falcon
i just spam melk's for curios ngl
Yeah he's kinda worthless otherwise
fleet zealot
the existence of reds
carmine falcon
Bro needs a rework
heady rapids
oh, really? cuz I got 1 of every red weapon a while ago lol (aside from necroman...
since they "updated" the rng system yeah
copper hawk
Oops someone died w a grim
heady rapids
a couple months before newyers
copper hawk
No red for me
nimble fiber
heady rapids
Oops someone died w a grim
that i can agree with, had to play cata cause legend was unplayable with all the grim hunters
placid fiber
since they "updated" the rng system yeah
I blame cica
heady rapids
yay my max hp........ is gone......
nimble fiber
It's my iggest fan
wait...
who r u?
copper hawk
Getting hit by a mauler