zealot-class

[spare talon]

guys im gonna be in a "these evil speedrunners" reddit post.....

[obsidian prairie]

Evil speed runners running an incredibly niche build

[lunar fable]

i was playing poe yesterday and stumbled upon this when i went to somebody else's hideout to trade with them

[hard nexus]

this is fucking peak

[lunar fable]

also s2 waiting room

[plush estuary]

and when I get actual speedrunners the team blames me for trying to votekick the carry

[spare talon]

this was the next game on the literal same map

im a fucking TAXE PSYKER

[plush estuary]

I told told just last mission to stop being a knife zealot, was shovel vet

[plush estuary]

I had a knife plasma stealth vet that went to end obj baross, and then I got blamed to try to vote kick him because hes the reason we won

[median steeple]

Insanity

[spare talon]

2 seconds after sending this message

[grizzled aspen]

Wanting to do a crane with some crates on the platform here but I'm not sure how to build it...

[grizzled aspen]

I think I pulled it off, just gotta decorate more.

[remote lark]

lumi approved

however making things pretty is gay
you are now gayer than me, gayboy
i live in a dirt hut

[grizzled aspen]

Wait until you see the map.

[sullen forge]

Telling me you dont subject your villagers to the square boxes of shame and make your own personal house actually look pretty

[remote lark]

no i just dug downwards and hollowed out an area to put chests and tables
that is my house
a huge cave with shelves and nothing else

[grizzled aspen]

This giant chunk here? Used to be a crimson biome.

[sullen forge]

All I ask is why

[grizzled aspen]

It inconvenienced me.

[remote lark]

💀

[rough galleon]

It was the crimson and deserved it

[sullen forge]

what do you get out of this outside of having 0 corruption in your world which is bad for farming

[grizzled aspen]

50 gorillion crimstone to make my own crimson biome.

[rough galleon]

A message

[grizzled aspen]

And yes, it sends a message. That message is "I have infinite dynamite and patience."

[rough galleon]

You can just say "undiagnosed" for short

[remote lark]

LMFAO

[grizzled aspen]

Really, though, I just got tired of having random crimson mobs fall down my hellevator so I said to myself "hey I've got infinite dynamite, I can solve that problem."

[sullen forge]

Me who just fucking deals with it cause Underground Crimson/Corruption is kinda peak

Infact I try to force both world evils in my world cause I enjoy having access to both their mats

[grizzled aspen]

Hardmode corruption got me all kinds of fucked up, I do NOT like the cursed flame spewing worms.

[sullen forge]

See what I do is a little thing called Arrows

[grizzled aspen]

I am using true melee.

[sullen forge]

Just hit it harder...

[grizzled aspen]

I killed wall of flesh with the fractured arc.

Get parried, meatbag. Eat 500 damage crits every other swing.

I thought about doing ranger but for whatever reason the arms dealer wont spawn in so that idea is kinda fucked.

[sullen forge]

You never pick up 100 musket balls?

obviously you get that exact amount from the Crimson hearts

[grizzled aspen]

I've picked up loads of guns and ammo, he just won't spawn for whatever reason.

[sullen forge]

I think its specifically musket balls

might be the reason why he's just not spawning for some reason

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, undertaker and musket both drop 100 musket balls when they drop from a heart or orb.

[sullen forge]

Besides bow ranger is a shit ton more fun

that or if you're a methhead and do Rocket Ranger, speaking of I should do that for my next Calamity run

[grizzled aspen]

Oh hell the desert is the hallow now...

[remote lark]

dynamite time

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-cd-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-eggman-dr-eggman-gif-6513385627739669387

Truth nuke it

[spare talon]

its time guys

h40
taxe scriers psyker

im so scared

[jovial cosmos]

Its your pubbies who should be scared

[twin wagon]

You will be pvped

[next marlin]

Teach me this knowledge

[spare talon]

i was not
but the map was gloriana so the start was miserable, but i was always the last alive with the most damage

[pulsar yoke]

I swear I see pc players sliding from side to side. Can we console players physically not perform this manoeuvre?

[obsidian prairie]

You can extend a dodge with a slide

[pulsar yoke]

Oh my god

[obsidian prairie]

It uses a second dodge but maintains the dodge state I believe (not sure about the second part)

[pulsar yoke]

That's helpful.

[obsidian prairie]

I don’t use them ever because I don’t find the extra distance necessary but it’s there and it’s useful

[pulsar yoke]

On another note can anyone recommend any perks for the braced autogun? Don't see any immediate standouts.

[obsidian prairie]

Use the vet guide pinned in vet chat

There isn’t much specific to zealot in regards to guns, especially automatics

There are a few points like Shattering Puncture bolter getting a 4 shot body shot against crushers but it’s mostly identical

[next marlin]

How is this build ? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda864a-e3a0-48d3-a3cb-7f3b4ee1145b/h40-ts-book-spam

And what curios would you use ?

[rough edge]

I love the book <3 always say your prayers to da emprah

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[grizzled aspen]

Don't need iod and backstab cdr, drop backstab cdr and pick up enduring faith and the damage book node. It's all you can afford with 2 points.

Also I'd run flamer because it's straight up dealing 25% more damage with anoint, but that's just me.

Your job is to be a mixed horde lawnmower in havocs, flamer will assist you greatly, especially if you have another book or a shout vet.

[next marlin]

And what curios will you use ?

[grizzled aspen]

One +3 stamina and two toughness curios, x3 gunner resist, x3 toughness, x2 hp, x1 stamina regen.

Sniper resist kinda doesn't matter in havocs because they will crack your toughness and instantly down you anyway, there's no amount of tdr that can change that with the toughness hit havoc gives you.

There is an honorable mention in taking corruption resistance over hp when you're doing blight spreads conditions, as well.

[next marlin]

No -% ability cooldown ?

[grizzled aspen]

Not necessary, it's 6 or so seconds shaved off with all of three of your curios using it. Definitely not worth losing potential hp/toughness/damage resistance over.

Scuse me, with all 3 it would be 7.2 seconds shaved off. Still not worth losing survival power over.

[vast basin]

If you have iod then it's even less effective

[grizzled aspen]

Not how that works but ok.

The cdr that becomes less effective with more sources is backstab cdr.

[obsidian prairie]

3.6

[grizzled aspen]

IOD is straight up just faster cooldown, no strings attached.

[grizzled aspen]

12% of 60 is 7.2, though?

[obsidian prairie]

Wait shit chorus has a 60 second cooldown I’m thinking of FotF

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah I was about to say, your math ain't mathing.

[vast basin]

Well if you have faster cooldown, the flat cdr you get from curios is less effective.

[obsidian prairie]

I see curio cdr I think 3.6

[grizzled aspen]

Again, not how that works. IOD and curio cdr are the same thing.

They would stack just fine, there's just no point in losing survivability for 7.2 seconds of your chorus being shaved off.

[grizzled aspen]

Now, if they were using backstab cdr, then yeah, I'd agree, diminishing returns do be diminishing.

Backstab cdr is cooldown based on what your timer currently says. If it says 10 seconds left, then you get a backstab, it shaves off 2 seconds. Lowering your cooldown with cdr curios makes the number smaller, faster, making backstab cdr less effective.

But IOD is the same thing as curio cdr.

Just faster ability cooldown speed, that's all.

And we aren't even gonna look at martyrs purpose.

[vast basin]

Is still diminishing returns though, 200>236 is a smaller reduction in cooldown then 100>136

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think you understand how these things stack up.

You start with a base cooldown rate of 100%, then curios bump you to 112%, then iod bumps you to 312%.

It wouldn't be diminishing returns at all, because it's additive, not multiplicative.

[obsidian prairie]

I think they mean dimishing returns by comparison

[grizzled aspen]

Regardless, the point here is curio cdr is bad.

[obsidian prairie]

12% isn’t much compared to 200%

[grizzled aspen]

Zero reason to gimp your toughness, hp, or damage resistance against gunners by taking it.

[vast basin]

The point I was trying to make is that 100>112 is a bigger increase in cooldown reduction compared to 300>312

[grizzled aspen]

Oh, ok, that makes sense now, sorry.

[vast basin]

I just got the numbers mixed up

[grizzled aspen]

Brains a little fried, been playing terraria all day and struggling with build ideas...

[obsidian prairie]

You’re playing cal right

[vast basin]

My bad aswell, I shouldve been more clear

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah but I went and installed a couple more mods and now I'm gonna make a new world and slowly move my magic storage over.

[obsidian prairie]

What difficulty (world + cal diff)

[grizzled aspen]

Also made this one medium so its not such a slog to blow everything up.

[grizzled aspen]

Expert, death + eternity mode. True suffering.

[obsidian prairie]

You basically need to play cal on large worlds, stuff doesn’t generate right unless you do

[grizzled aspen]

I have made rules for myself with fargo's equippable inventory as well to lessen the suffering but it's still fucking hard.

Like I'm considering certain items to be proper upgrades and always be equipped, like heart of darkness.

[obsidian prairie]

Mmmmmm delicious difficulty by numbers inflation

So much fun

[grizzled aspen]

Accessories go into a vacuum bag so they aren't considered equipped and fuck up my stats and accidentally make me into a god.

Start a blood moon and get 27 shackles all with crit chance effects, boosting my crit chance to 146% (this happened and it's why I'm using vacuum bags now).

[spare talon]

its actually starting to piss me off just how fragile melee psyker is by trying it in h40
like im actually kinda shocked at how taxe psyker is keeping up with everyone else there in terms of damage, but the issue of "make a mistake and die" is now "let an enemy look at you and die"

[hearty nebula]

glorp

[obsidian prairie]

Iron Arm replacing Smite cannot come sooner

[hearty nebula]

yeah how do you think i felt when i was trying to do h40 with lumii & the others

it is the very definition of glass cannon

[hearty nebula]

nah gimme this

[obsidian prairie]

I never used that

Anything with a 1 ap attack late game doesn’t do much with that

[hearty nebula]

🤷 idk i aint play rogue trader

[obsidian prairie]

Play it

[hearty nebula]

i just thought this one looks cool off description

[hearty nebula]

cant :(

[grizzled aspen]

@obsidian prairie another reason why I have to remake my world is because I used an instabridge to kill wall of flesh and accidentally deleted draedons lab and the entirety of the brimstone crag...

No muramasa, no brimstone crag, no calamity progression, so I must restart.

[obsidian prairie]

Though if you want RT psychic powers you should probably look at Pyromancies

[hearty nebula]

no idea what ur talkin about but ok

[grizzled aspen]

Wait does calamity work on master?

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

Infernum requires a patch but it’s also kinda lame, spectacle over balance

[grizzled aspen]

There are 5 schools of thought for psychic powers, being biomancy, divination, telepathy, sanctic powers, and pyromancy. Pyromancy is the most volatile of the 5, but also the most powerful. It encompasses bathing the battlefield in flame, both your enemies, and yourself.

[grizzled aspen]

Not worried about infernum mode, it doesnt work with eternity anyway and I like fargo's mutant mod too much to just let it go.

[obsidian prairie]

It also pretty casually drops a few hundred damage late game

[hearty nebula]

yeah i'd presume biomancy would be main pick tho for abilities

[grizzled aspen]

Don't forget wildfire, the arch militant ability, allows you to drop two molten beams in one turn.

[obsidian prairie]

(Which is baby numbers compared to an Arch Militant shattering the action economy)

[past sierra]

bad

[grizzled aspen]

Biomancy involves manipulation of the flesh, it's a lot more than just spicy jazz hands and hitting things harder. It can involve healing, heating and cooling of bodily fluids, etc. Imagine being able to flash boil someone, alive.

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922656638190645309/1281807897893798008/caption-1.gif

[obsidian prairie]

Or additional funky stuff like Warp Speed or adrenal overdrive or whatever

[hearty nebula]

yeah i know. doesn't smite's description literally say that it's bio-lightning

[obsidian prairie]

Heinrix flash frying his grandma

[obsidian prairie]

Yes, mid tree is in theory biomancy

[hearty nebula]

yea lol

[past sierra]

psyker in dt uses different ones already
And they could implemented maybe more psychic powers, cause there are psykers being able to use even all of them
they chose the bad ones like smite using it as primary weapon from start to end

[hearty nebula]

i mean if you're playing with noobs then yeah they do

[grizzled aspen]

Brain burst, smite, warp charges, and empowered psionics could be considered biomancy. Scriers gaze and disrupt destiny could be considered divination. Assail and telekine shield could be considered telekinetics (no real school for this, you either know how to do these or you don't). Shriek could be considered telepathy.

[hearty nebula]

yea

[obsidian prairie]

I think assail has an assigned school because it’s from written RT

[hearty nebula]

idk i'll play rogue trader when i'm not broke :3

[past sierra]

brain burst = telekinesis

[obsidian prairie]

I played the base game and my heretical run is on infinite delay until I can afford Void Shadows

[frosty herald]

Only smite is biomancy

[next marlin]

Do you have an another book build ?

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-mpreg-mpreg-monday-omori-mari-gif-6568340145174634279

[vernal terrace]

correct, though the school of thought is actually called telepathy 🤓

kind of a bad name for it i will say cause all the brain fuckery of another person is telekinesis and all the personal brain stuff is telepathy

[acoustic dune]

i like how all zealot built is just a varient close to this
(i dont like it how all zealot build is a close varient of this)

[frosty herald]

Scrier is def its own thing instead of divination

[hearty nebula]

same

[acoustic dune]

if the other path didnt suck so much ass there would be more variety

[frosty herald]

Id go as far to say that scrier is tzeentch sorcery based on the personality voicelines

[naive stirrup]

lore accurate scrier's gaze allows sight through walls and shit too iirc
not super familiar with the lore on that end

[vernal terrace]

warp charges are also factually a telepathy thing not biomancy
also if we are using the newer table top games as a basis bubble is a santic psyker ability

[next marlin]

And weapons are good ?

[frosty herald]

Also divination is to see the future scrier is just giving yourself a steroid injection in the form of using the warp to boost your psychic abilities

[frosty herald]

Swap unarmored on relic blade to elites

[hearty nebula]

^

[past sierra]

wallhack

[past sierra]

way better this

[hearty nebula]

whar

[past sierra]

[hearty nebula]

noobhaviour...

[past sierra]

what you mean

[hearty nebula]

idk

[vernal terrace]

also disrupt destiny is heretical is what it is!!!!

[solar gorge]

me when i try to disrupt someone's destiny but that mf had no future to begin with

[past sierra]

do you know dorn
he did h40 grey weapons once
cool guy

[vernal terrace]

heard he's bald though i dont talk to bald people

[past sierra]

[next marlin]

Thanks !

[frosty herald]

you dont want unarmored on relic blade cause the empowered mode already kills trashmobs in 1 hit

[next marlin]

Yes, maybe he did this only to reach a breakpoint in havoc 40

[frosty herald]

nope wrath cranial flak elites are enough for havoc 40

[misty nova]

"Fear the future" - Savant

[spare talon]

Destiny is heresy

[spare talon]

That guy slaughtered my village in cold blood

[grizzled aspen]

Pretty sure unarmored hits horde breakpoints on moebians when it's off.

Don't hold me to that, though. Ask Lumii, he probably knows.

[frosty herald]

your activation uptime in combat is longer than its downtime

[vernal terrace]

what the fucks a greatsword

[placid fiber]

a sword that is great

[vernal terrace]

No that can’t be true…

[acoustic dune]

how are you so sure its not that great
have you met the great sword?

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[placid fiber]

Gottem

[ornate vessel]

What is a good weapon for the achievement "shocking stuff"?

[slate zenith]

i’ve seen a lot of people get it with the flamer thrower, still yet to get it myself

[ornate vessel]

[grizzled aspen]

I left my pc afk for like 45 minutes and come back to 2 platinum worth of coins on the ground around me just from things that kept touching me and dying.

[copper hawk]

Ur just that ugly..

[grizzled aspen]

I have like 4 sources of contact damage and so much defense that enemies only deal 1 damage to me.

[copper hawk]

Noob

[tidal berry]

is it any different for exe vet

[placid fiber]

oof

[acoustic dune]

playing helldiver and i saw some lad walk into the same mine field 2 or 3 time

[slate zenith]

does the twins skip still work for the just a flesh wound penance?

[acoustic dune]

the bell thing?
prob

[slate zenith]

alright cool ty

[acoustic dune]

make sire its private match

[tame sluice]

classic empathic evasion

50% crit chance, but you still manage to not get a crit in the same instant a shotgunner shoots you

[heady rapids]

fun fact

[acoustic dune]

fun fact YOU DIED THERE? START LOOKING DOWN????

its a desert map

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1197047569470214257/1333352671817760808/attachment-8.gif

[atomic fjord]

I DID IT

[acoustic dune]

we had wife beaters
now behold
beating wife

[true kindle]

@south folio say "i dont want DR on Psyker" one more time

[frosty herald]

clipped by 1 shotgunner instant death

no joke give the biomancy branch deticated DR nodes

[misty nova]

Ew

Congratulations though

[frosty herald]

ok now do iron fist lord

[nimble fiber]

[misty nova]

It shouldn't be that hard to get Lord on IF, right? Just W+M1, right?

[tame sluice]

he is a very easy character after his recent buffs

he gets his block back faster, has higher base health, and gets more bonus health from his self heal and block

to compensate they nerfed the damage he does to squishies by making his attacks deal percentage damage

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/709164454134415481.webp?&animated=true

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/online-pet-club-wanwan-happy-excited-anime-gif-5851207893245983183

[placid fiber]

now do a cartwheel

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-gif-10290761239041307136

[acoustic dune]

cat wheel you say

[placid fiber]

Now for that you have to do a double backflip while moving forwards

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-backflip-kitty-crazy-mean-gif-14483888

one more match until i have to visit paris museum

oh musee rodin is close

[ornate bone]

Think I narrowed down my problem, any computer wiz know how to check if my GPU is faulty?

[clever swan]

what happens? computer just turns off suddenly?

[ornate bone]

It did yeah, been talking with a few people for awhile now trying to trouble shoot it. Started with my computer monitors freezing, then going dark but I could still hear the music audio but not interact with anything. Dumped all my files, reinstalled my OS and drivers. But I seen tearing on my screen yesterday, and today I went down for water and my computer had rebooted.

[clever swan]

welp, guess you can try to underclock your cpu a fair bit and undervolt it slightly and see if it happens again.

what cpu do you have?

[ornate bone]

Ryzen 9 5900x

[clever swan]

what is your fclk set to?

[ornate bone]

I'm.. Not sure

[clever swan]

better question might be what sort of ram do you have? mhz wise

[ornate bone]

Trident Z 3200mhz

[clever swan]

hmmm

usually fclk only fails at like 1800 (aka for 3600 mhz ram) or so, but it's not impossible that's the cause. i would try just underclocking by like 200 mhz and undervolting the cpu. if it never happens again then that was probably it. if it happens again you can try reducing your ram frequency by like 50-70 so you can reduce your fclk a little bit too, just to get rid of that explanation.

[clever swan]

what are your temperatures at idle? when at 50%+ cpu usage? is your fan curve enough to cool down your cpu?

[ornate bone]

Yeah I've looked at the heat temps and what they're supposed to be at, no problems there. Usually 30C idle.

[clever swan]

and when at 100% usage for >5 minutes it's also fine?

[ornate bone]

76*

[clever swan]

very cool then, way cooler than the two amd 5000 series amd cpus ive had lol

[ornate bone]

I lied

[clever swan]

still cooler than my shit for sure

when mine is going ham it's at like 86C

[ornate bone]

The cooling in my computer is pretty decent

[ornate bone]

So you think it's ram related? I'll give it a try. Haven't been in my bios a little bit.

I just thought I had an angle for the first time cause with the reboot it said "Nvidia had an error, send a report?"

[clever swan]

it could be ram related but i dont think it's that in particular. you could and i guess should try everything

the fclk thing isnt directly ram related, it's an aspect of your cpu's infinity fabric (fabric clock = fclk). it's just that fclk should (for performance reasons) match with your ram's frequency. the fclk, like any clock speed, can only go so high before becoming unstable at any given voltage so since fclk must match ram frequency the stronger ram (in terms of mhz) you have the less likely fclk is to match it. that's why people dont suggest going over 3600mhz on zen 3

[ornate bone]

is the fclk changed in the bios as well?

[clever swan]

because fclk on most units cant go much higher than 1800 aka 3600 mhz ram. but you dont have ram that fast so it shouldnt really be a problem. BUT it could be, i guess.

when i got infinity fabric crashes, though, it actually gave a different event viewer message than that. something about a cache hierarchy

[clever swan]

yep. you can also get ryzen master or you can get something from your motherboard's webpage that lets you do various things while in the OS

though fclk is probably not one of those things that can be changed in OS. probably.

[ornate bone]

I had an issue like this before, it was my psu literally moments before it died, and this new ones only 6 months old. The guy I took it into said it's "top of the line" but the guys I now talk to said Asus Tuf is shit

And that I should have 1200w not 1000w

[clever swan]

TUF isnt the best but it isnt the worst. nothing to worry about in any case

do you want me to DM you so we stop destroying zealot chat?

[ornate bone]

Sure! Might be bringing the computer in to get it looked at but unsure about trusting a guy that things TUF is top of the line

[slate zenith]

uhhh can someone help me with this private game penance please

[grizzled aspen]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[placid fiber]

it's the border ferret

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-squeeze-wring-gif-13961786945803639795

[final tartan]

this cool? (doesnt have to be prime meta but atleast somewhat usefull)

90% melee mode*

[floral grail]

besides the stuff above fire grenade this is pretty meta lol

[misty nova]

Well I'm not sure you need blood redemption or whatever that one on the side of scourge with this build

And if you're mostly melee, why voice of Terra?

[final tartan]

the extra toughness regen 50% not worth ?

[floral grail]

toughness regen gets interrupted if you get targeted by any melee enemy

[final tartan]

and yea i could delete voice of terra.. but looked good for when i do use a gun 😛

[floral grail]

so it's basically off almost all the time

[final tartan]

allright, delete blood redemp and maybe voice of terra .. yeey ty

[hard nexus]

u dont need any of the nodes in the middle, id swap them over to faithful frenzy and sustained assault, then drop blood redemption for twbs

[final tartan]

cool, gonna check it out. thx

wait can we use all 3 endskills/keystones ?

[hard nexus]

no, yellow is build dependant, purple is main path

[final tartan]

aaah, clear

[hard nexus]

that picture is every zealot build ever

[final tartan]

sad

[misty ravine]

TWBS isn't as important as it used to be. Still recommended for weapons where you use lots of heavy attacks, especially weapons like Thunder Hammer where getting poked switches off the special activation

[hard nexus]

i like it because i like running through fire but otherwise yah

[final tartan]

i like runic blade.. this thing goes nuts

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jq2C0xgpV9vCrZQIK?invite=cr-MSw5RFYsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

yeah it can be fun

[carmine falcon]

i still use it simply because i can snipe snipers mid horde without my aim going to shit

also cool factor
not flinching to attacks is the rawest shit ever

[final tartan]

okok 😄

look like my random skill clicking isnt too bad afterall.. slight tweaks needed

[floral grail]

all keystones are good but theyre dependent on your weapon or how you like to play

[tame sluice]

Yeah you have Inexorable Judgement for indecisive people, Blazing Piety for boring people, and Martyrdom for the only fun Zealot build

[final tartan]

runic blade feels soo sweet compared to other stuff and as backup gun i think bolt pistol is ok? (explosion on close range kill seems usefull)

[misty nova]

[misty ravine]

Bolt pistol is fun, useful, and thematic and it's what I usually use in Auric. Revolver is good in the same role. Bolter is probably the strongest choice, as throwing knives are there for quickly deleting specials, weaker elites, and inconvenient shooters—and can be used to skip the bolter's long draw animation.

[slate haven]

Would the trailer zealot be a nu metal fan?

[mighty root]

I’d also get thy wrath be swift

[hushed knoll]

My wrath will be swift

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dogfish-dog-fish-gif-13895089160482870064

[hushed knoll]

God dammit

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fish-dogfish-bruv-gif-9427943976019670390

[final tartan]

looks like there is 1 fish that likes dogs

now we stuck with this stuff

[misty ravine]

Is this one of the "scurvie sea dogs" I keep hearing about from those guys who download free movies

[mighty root]

I’m sorry but this is real Stan

[hushed knoll]

No it’s not and it never will be 😠😠😠😠

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dogfish-fish-dog-ocean-coral-reef-gif-11537277813045151760

Look at this dogfish

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-on-you-gif-25797108

[final tartan]

hahahaha tf dude

[next marlin]

For relic blade mkX what do you think of L1 L2 H1 L2 H1 to clear horde ?

[mighty root]

Look at this dancing cat

[hushed knoll]

Cats can’t dance

[mighty root]

Refer to the video above

[fleet zealot]

AI

[mighty root]

He’s dancing

[hushed knoll]

It’s fake

[final tartan]

fishdogs better

[next marlin]

And How do you directly push then sweep ? i have the feeling it takes forever (without PA) to wait for L1

[floral grail]

its real

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[hushed knoll]

No

[mighty root]

@hushed knoll you see this?

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kemusan-dog-dance-dog-cute-gif-16743190042763074118

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dancing-dog-dance-gif-4444446770975008980

[next marlin]

Sorry was a Bad Time

[fleet zealot]

depends on the weapon, diffferent weapons have different movesets, some have a sweeping PA, some don't.

[final tartan]

pipl brains occupied with fishdogs and dancing cats xD

[mighty root]

Also I’m pretty sure the combos are in pins

[next marlin]

For relic blade MKX !

[final tartan]

i just hit that lmb.. fast, many times.. after some rage. stuff is dead

[final tartan]

sometimes i have to take a hit of the greenstuff what makes me lean on the lmb slight moment longer.. wich causes quality combo's.. feels legit

[violet hornet]

I have some combos listed at the bottom of this: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb3dff-4759-499a-80aa-6f95e81981a9/havoc-support-zealot

[fleet zealot]

you should be able to drop out of the push/block state and into l1 easily

[placid fiber]

tail dot jpeg

[next marlin]

Yes but it says "explained in talents" but not explained

[fleet zealot]

and it shouldn't take long

[placid fiber]

It's literally in the pinned message

[fleet zealot]

i'm opening my game rn, but for all the other chatters, he is wondering how to get to l1 after a PA or push

i dont have my recording software setup

[next marlin]

Yes "the reason you dont use heavy loop is explained in talents"

[fleet zealot]

lol just focus on the matter at hand

[next marlin]

Thanks just what I needed !

[fleet zealot]

Now im confused

[fleet zealot]

This is what im lookin at

[placid fiber]

I think the bottom paragraph is what they mean "you don't realy need twbs on builds that horde clear with light attacks"

the heavies might also make scourge less effective

[next marlin]

This is what I seek to understand. L1 L2 H2 seems more efficient than doing a thrust in your horde clear combo

[grizzled aspen]

Mk10 doesn't use heavies except when doing single target with h1 h2 l3 loop.

Light spam for hordes, poke will alternate moveset between horde and single target.

[next marlin]

What do you mean by poke ?

[placid fiber]

that's because the light 3 combos into either the light 1 or the heavy 1 right?

[static sky]

Don’t sleep on that poke. It’s the best against dirty bulwarks mixed into horde.

[placid fiber]

Allowing you to switch between single target and horde clear on the fly

[placid fiber]

the light 3 is a stab

[grizzled aspen]

Oh I'm not sleeping on the poke at all, it definitely has a good single target profile.

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, exactly. It's infinitely simpler than mk2 switching attack profiles.

[static sky]

I especially love poking crushers as they attempt to rock bottom me.

[fleet zealot]

ok why aren't you okay with l2 after a push

like, why do you need an l1 sweep when you can just, release right click after the push starts, then press left click

[placid fiber]

Also the heavy 2 combos into the light 3 anyway

[static sky]

As a console player. I only use block push/stab for hounds. Personally for horde clear single target switch it’s easier to get the poke in combo then block/attacking.

[next marlin]

I'm only asking for horde clear. The ST combo is fantastic !

[placid fiber]

Yeah, and the horde clear combo is: light spam

[fleet zealot]

heavies are just too slow

[placid fiber]

and require twbs in some instances

[fleet zealot]

unpowered you could do l1-l2-h3, but if you are powered, heavy attacks are just slower and do the same damage so it's quicker to just light spam

[grizzled aspen]

It's legit just light spam for hordes. The l3 can be dragged as it has a persistent hitbox. Aim for elites with it if you can.

I will say mk10 has the advantage over mk2 against mixed hordes solely because the l3 lets you pick out a specific target and delete them.

[placid fiber]

"fuck those hordes, fuck those hordes, and fuck that guy in particular"

l1 l2 l3 lol

[grizzled aspen]

It also swings fast enough (with the right setup) that you aren't punished for picking out that target with your l3, which is nice.

[static sky]

With enough cleave and strength 1 or 2 swings clears the horde and what’s left is poke worthy. In my experience.

[mild sparrow]

Imagine using combos on MK X and not just swinging wildly with minimal brain activity

[placid fiber]

ferret dot mp4

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[placid fiber]

yo mama's face

[static sky]

It’s the best shut your brain down and just ball weapon. There’s so many intricate weapons and combos that require skill. Let us have one weapon that’s just a blender.

[copper hawk]

Dot mp4

[placid fiber]

Also: I didn't know you were into 70 year old women. 😉

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, if you want intricacy, you run mk2, if you want brain off unga bunga, you run mk10.

[placid fiber]

^

[static sky]

The emperor wills it!

[grizzled aspen]

Now, Frog must sleep... been awake for far too long...

[copper hawk]

FUCK the emperor ,, i loooove the grandfather ,,

[static sky]

Night night

[copper hawk]

At 0900 ,, smh ,, unemployed friend on a weekday ,,

[grizzled aspen]

Sir it is my day off, please leave me alone.

[mild sparrow]

[grizzled aspen]

Go boyrot or whatever it is you do on a Monday morning, Cica.

[placid fiber]

I would expect as much, from a plant

[hearty nebula]

do not the emperor

[static sky]

Put them in macaroni immediately. I seent it on the YouTubes. Cutest thing Eva!!!!

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/majima-goro-majima-yakuza-like-a-dragon-like-a-dragon-pirate-yakuza-in-hawaii-gif-7903596834546919889

[placid fiber]

the legendary baseball bat khopesh

erm, maybe not a khopesh, since that has a curve on the upper half

[hearty nebula]

glorp

[placid fiber]

careful, you might summon his plantliness

[hearty nebula]

@copper hawk

:3c

[misty ravine]

Baseball Bat Kukri, the infamous Australian-American melee weapon

[next marlin]

Thanks ! I understand more the nuance now !

The community is so helpful and hearthwarming, I want to cry 😭

[copper hawk]

Work ,, despairing ,,

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/korshunov-stalker-2-stalker-stalker2-ward-gif-4316907427003349762

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-clear-sky-clear-sky-monolith-monolith-exo-gif-13594799489985857333

[copper hawk]

Gleep

https://tenor.com/view/online-pet-club-wanwan-happy-excited-anime-gif-5851207893245983183

[hearty nebula]

haiii :3

[carmine falcon]

mfw didnt play for few days and im washed

[ornate bone]

Im tired boys, computers in the shop for repair after being helped to troubleshoot it for a week..
Think im just gunna buy a prebuilt and cry

I mean that's not "awful"

[mighty root]

Wtf don’t get that one

[fleet zealot]

That is awful

[plucky gate]

that's insanely expensive for what it is

[mighty root]

@ornate bone try to find one that has 9800x3d or 7800x3d with 32 gigs of ram

[fleet zealot]

Wtf

[ornate bone]

I dunno my current specs are ryzen 9 5900x, 3090ti, b450 tomahawk, 32gb 3200mhz ram

[mighty root]

Actually here

[golden rain]

You could have someone build one with the same parts for easily half of that price if not less, and 16gig VRAM isn't exactly going to cover a lot for you.

[ornate bone]

Canadian prices btw, NOT AMERICAN.

[fleet zealot]

Canadian price is even worse then

[ornate bone]

Our currency is like 31% worse

[frosty herald]

what the fuck

i got a pretty solid pc with a 4060 for 1.2k euros

[fleet zealot]

That looks like a legitimate scam

Even for a prebuilt

[placid fiber]

gnarp

[clever swan]

that's insanely expensive

[fleet zealot]

And i buy prebuilts lol cause im lazy and lack confidence

[ornate bone]

Alright alright I'll just order the parts and build a new one..

[plucky gate]

oh that's canadian prices

[clever swan]

$1,972.40* usd i guess. hmm

[ebon bobcat]

Just steal
Skyrim taught us that

[fleet zealot]

I thought canadian price would make the value worse not better

[ornate bone]

A 4070 ti super is $1200 before taxes here

[grizzled aspen]

I'll bring the buckets...

[clever swan]

nah cuz the cost of american parts would be lower if we were using the wrong unit so it wouldnt reasonably add up to such a high number

[plucky gate]

no because canadian dollars are worth less
that $2800 is actually like 2000 or something in usd

[fleet zealot]

Last time i used canadian dollars as a reference it was book buying

And that was long (relatively) time ago

[static sky]

What’s the point of the super high dollar gaming rigs? What can they do that a console cannot?

[misty ravine]

Leaf here. Canadians pay more for shit even taking exchange rates into account, it's why people who live right by the border buy groceries in the states

[placid fiber]

use a mouse and keyboard easily

[dry hinge]

Bait

[fleet zealot]

Bait

[ornate bone]

That's bait

[clever swan]

emulation

[static sky]

No bait

[mighty root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxVnXR @ornate bone you can interchange parts if you want to but if you’re upgrading this is good, you can choose a different cpu, cooler, ssd, and monitor

[clever swan]

some people dont know, it's not impossible. especially if he's a console user

[fleet zealot]

Future proofing if you are serious, consoles depreciate usefulness as soon as the next gen comes out

[static sky]

Im just wondering why gamers would need such machines? Y’all streaming? Programming? Multiple RuneScape accounts going?

[fleet zealot]

And are irrelevant after they are 2 gens old

Also i can do a lot of computer exclusive shit

[mighty root]

Me when I gotta pay 800 for the new gen consoles

[plucky gate]

running mh wilds....

[clever swan]

it's just for fun i guess

[placid fiber]

darktide modding

[zinc talon]

I got my super high price gaming rig specifically to flex on the poors

[ornate bone]

@clever swan oh by the way I ended up bringing the computer in cause I launched and I experienced tearing again. They think it's the GPU which is what I thought. And if my gpu is fucked I might as well get a whole new computer

[fleet zealot]

Consoles can’t make spreadsheets or use acrobat and do your emails and the social apps on console are just worse than the social media webpages

[mighty root]

Me when I don’t want my game to look like play dough so I get a rig

[static sky]

Now that I understand! PC master race

[frosty herald]

i do not want to be shackled to horendous 30 fps gaming

[zinc talon]

yeah. frames

[signal spoke]

God damn

[carmine falcon]

wot da hyllll

[clever swan]

you shouldnt have brought it in. coulda seen if the gpu could be underclockd and if it'd work @ornate bone

[fleet zealot]

Frames don’t even bother me that much but i grew up poor and 15 fps was high for me

[ornate bone]

I have to go to work.

[plucky gate]

with shit pc optimization and shitty gpu prices these days, a console seems more and more tempting....

[mighty root]

That’s the monitor I’m getting lol it’s so silly

[static sky]

I also see asking why such rigs are needed really touches a nerve. lol

[clever swan]

it's all good though. as long as they fix it it's good

[frosty herald]

i also grew up with the ps3 and xbox but i have gotten standards

[signal spoke]

650$ for the monitor is insane

[mighty root]

I mean people did see it as bait

[ornate bone]

Well that's if they can fix it. I don't know how easy it is to fix a GPU with memory issues.

[mighty root]

But the 360 fps and gsync ultimate

[static sky]

For the price of a gamer rig. You could get a console and cheap laptop. And still save exponentially

[dry hinge]

Mine was 1k

[plucky gate]

like tbf right now pc gaming is like the shittiest value it ever has been
thanks nvidia

[fleet zealot]

On pc i can game, listen to a podcast, and do a spreadsheet at the same time. Web browser is a tab away

[carmine falcon]

ps5 costs 800$ here
absolute joke

[copper hawk]

Hewwo hru

[fleet zealot]

I hate laptops and lol with current console prices i’d rather just get a value rig

[mighty root]

A labtop is like 2500 for a good one that’s about the same price of a high end rig

[static sky]

How long will it last?

[clever swan]

with consoles you gotta pay like $100 a year to play online. and the games are more expensive in general.

[fleet zealot]

Until consoles charge you for using the internet you already paid for

[copper hawk]

Like 4 years

[frosty herald]

decades

[hearty nebula]

eh

[frosty herald]

just upgrade parts once in a while

[undone pewter]

MHwilds reviews are out btw

Since I know some folks here care

[placid fiber]

so the xbox 360?

[fleet zealot]

Much longer than a console lol my last rig lasted over a decade

[static sky]

You got me there. Paying for online multiplayer is bs…

[fleet zealot]

Only console i would want now is ps3 cause it has blue ray and dvd

[frosty herald]

when people plan to buy a 5k series card they gotta have a big enough case

[placid fiber]

my last pc lasted for years and it wasn't even a high end rig, just a cheaper end gaming pc

[ornate bone]

I do miss the simplicity of console. Something goes wrong with my PC and I'm spending forever trying to fix it but can't spare the time cause the kids, wife, and work need my attention.

I hate getting old.

[fleet zealot]

Same mine was like, mid range and it was the aio that failed (and then i failed installing a new cooler)

[copper hawk]

That's why im gonna die young

[static sky]

You just justified my point!!! High end rigs are nothing but a flex.

[mighty root]

But if you’re actually serious most tvs only go to 60fps so you’re not reaching that 120 mark they advertise, and the “4K” they advertise isn’t real at all

[clever swan]

welp you aint got much time left

[zinc talon]

a well set up rig should standalone for half a decade and last you another half with upgrades

[placid fiber]

A high end rig would last longer than my cheap ass pc, tho >.>

[copper hawk]

Die young, leave a pretty corpse

[fleet zealot]

High end rigs can play games at a much higher quality at a much higher frame rate

[zinc talon]

I'M HERE FOR A GOOD TIME NOT A LONG TIME

[static sky]

Planned obsolescence allowing.

[placid fiber]

my last pc was dying trying to play darktide lol

[fleet zealot]

And will basically be able to run video games long after 3 console gens

[ornate bone]

High end rigs are almost necessary to play any new games cause nothing is optimized. Space Marines 2 for example. 3090ti ain't even enough to get 60fps on medium graphics.

[fleet zealot]

Console players cannot speak on planned obsolescence

[heady rapids]

4k native?

[mighty root]

Me when I like my hobby so I invest

[copper hawk]

I have a laptop w a 4090 and i love it

[static sky]

No one can. It’s corporate greed.

[ornate bone]

2560 1440p

[copper hawk]

Best investment ive made for a deployment

[fleet zealot]

And it has gotten better for pc in certain respects

[clever swan]

the worst planned obsolescence you get for PC gaming is nvidia doing some annoying shit. but they're fine sometimes too

[ornate bone]

I was looking at getting a 5090 but it's $5k

[mighty root]

Labtops with coolers are so cool

[heady rapids]

yeah something aint right here, i have a 3070 at 1080p and my lowest dips are 60

[fleet zealot]

When i got my previous Pc aio coolers had a 2-5 year life expectancy. Now they are 10-15 years

[mighty root]

Nope don’t wait like I am they’re coming in September

[ornate bone]

On space marines 2?

[copper hawk]

Running sm2 a 120 fps ,, i love frame gen ,,

[heady rapids]

whats your cpu

[clever swan]

sm2 is cpu bound

[ornate bone]

Ryzen 9 5900x

[frosty herald]

dont even need framegen for sm2

[violet hornet]

Laptops can be a bit of a hassle since they have issues with heat dissipation on more laborious tasks, cannot easily have parts replaced (besides hard drives and memory in most models), and their drivers tend to suck meaning it's less stable and you get less out of what hardware is there

[heady rapids]

fg fucking sucks in sm2 cause its tied with fsr.,...........

[copper hawk]

I like more frames so i love framegen

[mighty root]

@ornate bone do you want my build to end all builds?

[heady rapids]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiirrrrrrdddddddddddddddddd

[copper hawk]

Fsr is disabled when i run nvidia frame gen ,,

[placid fiber]

weed?

[plucky gate]

For me, the price isn't really the point. I upgrade way more often than console releases and my upgrades cost as much as a console. last upgrade was rtx2080 -> 4070 super.
I just want the flexibility. I can multitask, use mods (darktide moment), play games that are pc-only, i stream my gameplay to my friends while we chat.
Having a good computer is also nice quality of life. Editing things, like game footage or whatever.
It costs more but this is literally my only hobby so i can just about afford it

[ornate bone]

Afraid to build a new pc right now and see the next generation blow it out of the water with cheaper prices again but sure

[heady rapids]

ah
40 series user................................................................................

[violet hornet]

That and wearing out your screen hinges or ac adapter can be a pain to replace and those simply aren't issues with a desktop

[clever swan]

AMD's current frame gen aint even worth using

[mighty root]

This one is future proof lol here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rgvTPJ

[dry hinge]

I’m waiting on more 5090 reviews before upgrading from 4090

[static sky]

Thank you everyone for your insights and knowledge on high end rigs. For real no bait. I’ve always wondered but my crew is all console peasants. Never had the opportunity to ask.

[heady rapids]

lol

[pale spindle]

Where is everyone getting this money from?

[mighty root]

I got the motherboard im gonna start buying the other stuff

[mighty root]

[violet hornet]

In B4 bad rops, vhpwr meltdown, ect

[clever swan]

inb4 you try to play a 32bit physx game

[mighty root]

I hope it doesn’t if it does I’ll cry

[plucky gate]

iirc the reviews are that they basically don't exist and also melt your gpu cable connectors
probably skip that one

[violet hornet]

Console players working up to 60 frames while PC eyeing 480 mhz

[violet hornet]

If you buy that rig and it does I'll cry too lmao

[mighty root]

You’re talking about the 5090 right?

[heady rapids]

melting cables you could avoid pretty easily if you know what you're doing

but upgrading from 4090....... unless you really want mfg for some reason?

[clever swan]

if one is smart they'll just wait for the super versions of cards

[dry hinge]

Yeah I’m the type to wait for performance reviews after a set amount of time and not buy into FOMO sponsored reviews

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-money-smell-wwe-gif-4419594283220793561

[zinc talon]

the 5090 is the first flagship card from nvidia that's slower than the last gen -80 series

[violet hornet]

Yeah but realistically it's a tiny number that have those issues

[plucky gate]

I'm pretty sure you can get mfg on 40 series anyways. I remember it being mentioned it'll get added later to old cards

[fleet zealot]

Yea i plan on only upgrading whenever i need to

[mighty root]

I’m 9/10 sure that the 5090 melting is because of user error

[clever swan]

the 5090 is faster than a 4090 which is faster than the 4080 super. wdym?

[fleet zealot]

Also reminds me i should dig out my oculus rift 2 and see how it runs on my new rig

[zinc talon]

I don't know the specifics as I don't speak computer hardware

[heady rapids]

you can run it but it wont work cause they dont have the hardware for mfg

[violet hornet]

The rops is like 1% of stock iirc and the vhpwr is all down to making sure the psu and cabling are right

[fleet zealot]

And by need to, till the previous computer cant run shit or literally dies

[zinc talon]

I have a friend that's in some select buyer's club with nvidia so I'll ask again and get the cliffnotes version

[ornate bone]

Honestly considering it's only $150 to have a professional put the parts together for you, might just do that.

[mighty root]

Also @violet hornet why do you have me blocked i don’t know what I did but I’m so sorry

[heady rapids]

i love cable mixing

[fleet zealot]

I think it’s a fair take that 5090 isn’t worth the price for what upgrade it is

[violet hornet]

I don't have you blocked

[clever swan]

5090 is slower at playing mirror's edge with physx on, that's for sure

[mighty root]

Oh I thought you did

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2/clips/jgdSyYguIivtc8ID1/spok?invite=cr-MSxqYWosMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
So peak..

[zinc talon]

he gets the 90 series cards before they're even offered to the public on the same tier as like mass sales to multinationals like EA and activision

[ornate bone]

Alright im stopping by costco, apparently they got a shipment of prebuilts and graphics cards

[heady rapids]

still waiting for them to implement fsr fg separately from fsr so i dont have to look at literal mud

[mighty root]

Tbh i can’t think of any releasing for the next decade that my rig won’t be able to run

[violet hornet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[zinc talon]

I got my double platinum silicon lottery winner card from a prebuilt from Microcenter

[heady rapids]

like it would be honestly easier for me to just kill myself than go from dlss to fsr

[zinc talon]

they're a local brand here in dallas that contracts with the hardware makers for prebuilt setup variants they then hand build

[clever swan]

by year 9 it's not impossible that path tracing becomes the baseline and the highest setting path tracing is like jesus compared to now

[zinc talon]

now granted my machine was a touch over 6 grand after cables and accessories so I'm sure they made sure to put the creme de la creme of the inventory in the ones they built to that spect

but don't sleep on prebuilts as a way to get your next gen card

it's flabbergasting how cheap some of the other parts of the system have become

RAM and storage even for NVMEs can be reasonably picked up for call it a hundred bucks apiece

if you're already keepin an eye with intent to build or replace

[frosty herald]

Weve reached the limit on graphics tbh

[clever swan]

we arent even using 8k

[copper hawk]

Lmfao that's what they said ten years ago, then ten before that

[mighty root]

@static sky just remembered if you want insight the new consoles are gonna be about as expensive as a pc, atm consols have the power of a 3070 which is a mid range card, if I were you I’d start saving and looking at what I want to buy

[zinc talon]

gettin close yeah. the economist did a 30 page multi report on moore's law as it applies to graphics/AI/computing as a whole

[clever swan]

16k is probably all we'd ever need for all of humanity's history cuz of our eyeballs

we aint even at 8k tho

[zinc talon]

but with respect to graphics displayed on a flat surface

[plucky gate]

yeah but what if i want a monitor bigger than a house huh?

[zinc talon]

past a certain point it doesn't need to get better

[frosty herald]

Atm weve almost reached photo realism to push it any further would be a waste of resources and money

[mighty root]

4K is already over rated

[ornate bone]

Now when do we think they'll start optimizing games again?

[plucky gate]

gotta get more resolution to maintain pixel density if i wanna stand next to a monitor bigger than a building

[zinc talon]

then the pixels on that monitor will just be larger and/or grouped in clusters to render a huge image still at 2k or 4k or whatever

[frosty herald]

Were probably gonna see cpu being developed significantly

[mighty root]

2k my beloved

[copper hawk]

We're human We're all about wastin resnoyrces and meowney

[fleet zealot]

I wouldn’t say limit but i feel practically, we aren’t going to have any massive graphical pushes like it used to be

[plucky gate]

yeah but what if i want to maintain pixel density?

[fleet zealot]

God i hope so, that’s the area i want to go crazy

[clever swan]

big graphics advances are over. have been since 2007 or so with crysis

[zinc talon]

I mean sure there's a runaway hypothetical there

[ornate bone]

Jesus costco has like 300 4060 supers and that's it

[plucky gate]

gotta have that 40k resolution for that house sized monitor

[fleet zealot]

My costco was rinsed clean besides their 3050 rigs

[zinc talon]

if you want something the size of the moon rendering at whatever k it's eleventy brazilian operations per terafart and physics starts to break down on how to do it

[frosty herald]

Half life 2 was revolutionairy for how it looked but nowadays there are good looking games but not breaking any boundries

[carmine falcon]

devs need to focus on making rtx and path tracing viable instead of pushing for more
most setups cant handle either

[mighty root]

I can’t wait until we get quantum cpus

[copper hawk]

Cant wait until ww3..

[ornate bone]

Mine here isn't as wild. During the pokemon craze I still seen full totes.

[zinc talon]

but for gaming sharper resolutions are already breeding decreasing returns at 4 to 8m

[fleet zealot]

And they only had 2 of those.

Talked to the guy in electronics and they said they won’t get new gaming pcs till school is out

[heady rapids]

most setups
look inside
gtx 1060

[dry hinge]

Devs need to not crutch on frame gen.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/war-loading-dlc-world-war-ww3-gif-17719426321738479318

[fleet zealot]

Oo i hate card game scalpers, especially for a kids game like pokemon

[steep hound]

When HL2 came out people went apeshit, it was incredible

[frosty herald]

They need to make it so framegen doesnt increase input delay on your mouse

[mighty root]

I get 70 fps with my current build with no super res, all max settings, which global illumination and reflections on high

[heady rapids]

the humble nvidia reflex

[frosty herald]

It feels sluggish

[zinc talon]

that's because it's getting so close to reality it doesn't matter anymore

[clever swan]

where tf is reflex 3

[violet hornet]

Went from being lucky to have a flushable toilet in a game to being able to physics kill someone with a toilet

[clever swan]

reflex 2*

[plucky gate]

i think games looked as good as i could care about by the time witcher 3 came out
I don't really care how realistic games look beyond that

[heady rapids]

based tbh

[violet hornet]

And now we have satisfactory, where you can store an item in your toilet and flush it to destroy it. How far we've come

[zinc talon]

go look up the cyberpunk 307whatever video by the guys who did the photorealistic ENG render of a motorcycle ride

aside from things you can specifically recognize as things in cyberpunk it is absolutely indistinguishable from real life

[violet hornet]

Crysis for me, any graphical development after that just didn't seem as impactful

[zinc talon]

we've reached the point at which we can make it look as real to our eyes as being in the next room so further and better processing is unncessary

[clever swan]

too bad about the human models though, can hardly be called photorealistic

[heady rapids]

games peaked after e.t.
dont @ me

[zinc talon]

still some buried out in the desert if you want a copy

[violet hornet]

darktide paid cosmetic clipping intensifies

[copper hawk]

The Avgn movie..

[zinc talon]

here pretty soon models and characters will hit that point to as procedural generation by AI will become standard fare in the industry

[violet hornet]

Peaked a lil soil it was buried under

[clever swan]

@zinc talon https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-number-one-spot-beating-rtx-5090-in-passmark/ wtf...

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-milk-dog-waterboard-glitch-gif-13595304830592179613

[next marlin]

How do you skip long animation with the spearhead and throwing knife ?

[copper hawk]

Throw as soon as you swap or the ani starts

[plucky gate]

holy shit it's true lmao

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/quebrador-del-pueblo-tevez-mala-gif-12738810

[frosty herald]

Gaming peaked after life of black tiger

[zinc talon]

rockstar is already outsourcing to AI to create on the fly behaviors and conversations and plans to fill the world with those instead of forty chameleon individual animations they then put into the game world

[copper hawk]

Gaming just peaked w kcd 2

[misty ravine]

For Darktide ofc

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[hearty nebula]

when you swap to boltgun just throw a knife during pullout animation

[heady rapids]

they['re technically not wrong

hardware detection in games exists solely to piss you off not gonna lie

[ornate bone]

I forgot I also need a new headset as mine dies upon being unplugged. But the variety of opinions is Staggering, even the fact that I want a headset at all instead of spending $2k on a standing mic and headphones with an amp is heresy to some

[clever swan]

rtings tells you the truth about the best headset

[placid fiber]

Just get a wired headset and have it always die upon being unplugged

[frosty herald]

Detects hardware
Selects the highest options for graphics

[hearty nebula]

protip: you can save a shitton of cash on a microphone if you just buy a used studio mic

[misty ravine]

not setting up 32 speakers throughout the room with distances calculated to give you the true authentic surround sound experience for spidey sense in video games in real life
NGMI

[violet hornet]

But what about when OG unreal tournament would yell "Holy Shit!" When it detected highest default settings

[heady rapids]

get the cheapest wired headset you can find and up the bass
thank me later

[copper hawk]

It'd be typical roundfish if the detection for hardware is bugged and doesnt work and just estimates medium for everything

[clever swan]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/table

[hearty nebula]

studio equipment ages incredibly well, it stays good and you're gonna get it for like a fraction of the price

[placid fiber]

[hearty nebula]

get milked noob

wait no not like that

[tidal berry]

I think if I had the money for a 4080 I'd probably buy a top monitor instead

[mighty root]

I’ve been waiting for this

[hearty nebula]

NOT LIKE THAT

[zinc talon]

I absolutely love my OLED

[violet hornet]

Damn barely noon on a Monday and we already out here getting milked

[placid fiber]

veggie face v2.0

[copper hawk]

I need 2 get a headset w a mic

[clever swan]

microled is the true goat

[zinc talon]

I was amazed when I saw the difference in how much picture quality and the depth between bright and dark were

[hearty nebula]

im gonna come over n cut the microphone off

[copper hawk]

Like a good one, mine sounds bleh

[copper hawk]

Siiiigh.. alway knew u hated my voice ,,

[hearty nebula]

sounds better than mine probly but also i don't care how my mic sounds

[tidal berry]

Idk I might just settle on an IPS or something, oleds are good but I'm worried about burn-in for my planned use case

[hearty nebula]

nah u sound cute its ok xo

[mighty root]

I just have sennhisers and a yeti

[tidal berry]

All I know is I want like, higher resolution, because 1080P is just no go with games no longer offering decent anti-aliasing

[heady rapids]

are you a private asmr creator

[zinc talon]

I got an alienware 34 and it has a baked in system that pops up and asks if you want to refresh the pixels or the entire panel

[dry hinge]

Someone bought a star forge pc

[mighty root]

@hearty nebula he’s on to us

[zinc talon]

refreshing the pixels prevents fade if you've been using it for long periods of time continously and takes 6-8 minutes

[placid fiber]

okri over here dabbing on the poors

[zinc talon]

refreshing the panel eventually erases burn-in and takes 2 hours

[pale spindle]

Sigh, I need to do whatever these guys are doing

[hearty nebula]

fuck you pinging me for freak

[tidal berry]

the preventative measures are cool and all but I'm planning to do programming on the side, I think that might be serious burden on it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[zinc talon]

I didn't know when I got it burn in was a real concern so I was relieved to have those monitor functions to bring it back

[ornate bone]

I was about to buy sennheiser momentum 4s but I was promptly called an idiot cause the latency is garbage

[acoustic dune]

Erm what the freak?

[carmine falcon]

oh man why is the new event book shit 2 games in a row where people just press 2 and dont look for books

[mighty root]

Not the really expensive ones my headphones were around 200 to 300 I believe but my mic was 100

[clever swan]

microled doesnt have burn in as much (to the point it barely matters)

[tidal berry]

Maybe I'll just sit another gen for more durable panels

speaking of when are we supposed to get new models anyway

[clever swan]

too bad microLED is absurdly expensive, i think it's on some experimental tier pricing right now

[carmine falcon]

i just want a good 240p 1440p oled at a price that isnt meme tier

[pale spindle]

Everyone here shaded under a money tree, meanwhile me:

[mighty root]

It was a joke you meany ass goblin

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/the-best-solar-system-solar-panels-gif-15114499

[acoustic dune]

Jesus you just gotta coom

[lime schooner]

5 finger discount

[carmine falcon]

deal

[pale spindle]

Nah I'm done with high school

[zinc talon]

my toes do not freeze in the winter, no

[acoustic dune]

I meant cook
Not coom

[placid fiber]

Who tf has a money tree? I'm poor lol

[pale spindle]

[carmine falcon]

i have decent money saved up but i feel dirty wasting it on overpriced tech

[lime schooner]

a regular tree technically is a money tree

[pale spindle]

Everyone here who has a 4090

[heady rapids]

wym y'all arent getting paid for talking to fyre in this server? wilddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[acoustic dune]

Erm like fruit farmer?

[clever swan]

i want a microLED MONITOR NOW AAGHHHH

[ornate bone]

Also can I just say bringing a computer that my wife painted furry stuff on into a Russian computer tech was.. not an ideal start to my day? I felt judged

[pale spindle]

OK

[placid fiber]

Idk, all I have is this

[acoustic dune]

Everytime fyre ping I have to eat stan cookin

[clever swan]

mini LED isnt the same

[acoustic dune]

Your wife did qwat?
I gotta see this send me a pic

[placid fiber]

and I got this with a tax refund >.>'

[pale spindle]

At that point just get an OLED

[clever swan]

microLED is superior

[pale spindle]

Micro peepee

[clever swan]

but it doesnt really exist right now. that's how you know it's better, though

[pale spindle]

Idk I don't think I can pay $500+ on a monitor

[mighty root]

https://a.co/d/4squNnn they’re on sale

[acoustic dune]

Counter point
Get the big led and just sit further from the monitor so your eyes doesn't hurt

[clever swan]

you'd be lucky to get a microLED monitor of any gaming value for less than $20k tbh

[pale spindle]

Fuck it, just have a monitor that is just one giant pixel

[acoustic dune]

At some point get a tv

[clever swan]

there is literally not even a single microLED display on the market. if they exist they must be over $20k minimum

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pixel-art-walking-loop-gif-25869898

[mighty root]

How do tvs handle gpus

[clever swan]

i guess that's what samsung's "The Wall" is, a bunch of microLEDs

[mighty root]

There has to be insane tearing

[clever swan]

a TV is basically just a monitor but they're more TV core so they are usually not as good at gaming. they could be good though

i have my doubts that any TVs in the world have gsync though. not sure...

[acoustic dune]

A projector
Get a projector then

[clever swan]

nothing is better than microLED

[mighty root]

I wuv gsync

[pale spindle]

Me playing smash at a basketball court:

[clever swan]

turning on gsync makes my monitor turn on and off at random times, especially when playing gta 5 for some reason

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/flickering-lights-flicker-turn-off-the-lights-lights-out-brownout-gif-15895812

[pale spindle]

Nah if yall want the best latency get one of these bad boys 😎

[placid fiber]

too many pixels

[plucky gate]

now that's real gaming

[clever swan]

exactly except i crash into the ground and ruin a 20-30m heist or something

[acoustic dune]

Me when the ghost try to make leave
(It's trying to make my powerbill be more expensive)

[plucky gate]

i remember back in highschool, i'd see people bringing in a crt to the hallways to play smash

[clever swan]

presumably microLED will be available for expensive, but attainable, prices in like 6 years. hopefully?

[mighty root]

What’s that thing you had to do with really old monitors? Degaussing?

[pale spindle]

4k?

Cringe

[clever swan]

good times...

[ornate bone]

Those aren't wireless, right?

[pale spindle]

I only play at 240p

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-gif-13700757

[mighty root]

It was really cool to watch

[mighty root]

Yarp they are not

[ornate bone]

I need wireless i learned my lesson the hard way.

[mighty root]

[plucky gate]

tripped over a headphone cable?

[pale spindle]

When we getting witless tvs? 🤔

[acoustic dune]

I will never understand why people would want wireless headphones?
Like that's the funnest part to chew on? How else am I gonna choke someone?

[heady rapids]

keep talking to your friends while taking a shit

[ornate bone]

Daughter fell over, first reaction was to get up and run

[acoustic dune]

How did you know I went pooping

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/851240999653343252.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[ornate bone]

Destroyed my headset, and the port.

[pale spindle]

Wireless keyboards 🔥

[mighty root]

[violet hornet]

Generally so I don't roll over them with my shitty office chair tbh

[pale spindle]

Me waiting 5 seconds for my input to be sent to the Computer:

[violet hornet]

Also having your cable wear down is a typical failure point so making it wireless can allow you to use it longer

[acoustic dune]

wireless keyboard
look inside
wires

[ornate bone]

Yknow im looking at this 110" 4K TV and wondering how good of a monitor it'd be

[pale spindle]

Wireless charging?

The why does my phone feel like the sun? 🤔

[plucky gate]

this one can just be dealt with by having replaceable cables

[violet hornet]

Depends on panel type, how far you plan on sitting from it, and input delay

[mighty root]

If you want a 60 fps vsync on all the time

[ornate bone]

75hz refresh rate

[pale spindle]

Me having to turn my head 180° to see my healthbar:

[acoustic dune]

Pretty great if you are working for gaming

[violet hornet]

Just sit 40 feet away ofc

[carmine falcon]

wireless headphones are decent quality if u get something like audeze mobius but its 300$ soooo

[ornate bone]

Honestly my last headphones were the hyperx cloud II and I found them to be great.

[pale spindle]

OK doomer

[ornate bone]

I just tried to buy a new headset cause they had good reviews but they were the most god awful thing I ever heard. Immediately returned.
Razer headset don't remember the name.

[pale spindle]

Audiophile located 😔

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-25908805

[plucky gate]

probably gonna have a hard time finding a good wireless headset with good latency

[pale spindle]

Nova 7

[mighty root]

I wuv my cool sounds

[ornate bone]

Maybe time for the HyperX Alphas?

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/gof-gif-7119046057953984954

[pale spindle]

Me perfectly understanding white noise static:

[pale spindle]

Get a G435

For $50 I doubt you can find better ngl 😔

[placid fiber]

I feel this part so hard...

[clever swan]

it's said by rtings that the astro a50 x is the best wireless headset for "neutral sound"

there's more to it than that, though. even on rtings.

the best neutral sound headphone thing at all is the "hifiman arya stealth magnet version"

[pale spindle]

"Sorry I only listen to music directly from a phonograph"

[pale spindle]

Neutral, give me phat bass

I want my skeleton to vibrate

[carmine falcon]

if you want quality dont buy headsets tbh
i havent kept up with headphones releases for like a year but i doubt anything changed

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-so-excited-gif-20155140

[ornate bone]

They seem to be better at wireless

[pale spindle]

Just use speakers, fuck headsets

[carmine falcon]

that's because good headphone brands rarely bother with wireless

[placid fiber]

but with speakers you can't eat your headset's microphone as easily 😔

[clever swan]

the reason the higher tier headphone makers dont bother is probably more a function of their target market than that wireless is cringe

most audiophiles look down upon wireless and would never. it's like a console gamer in their world

[carmine falcon]

wireless is still not there for pure sound quality and their entire gimmic is muh audio quality

[placid fiber]

look down on wireless? idc who uses wireless, I just prefer wired things myself

[carmine falcon]

literally the only good sound quality from a wireless headphone i tried was a 300$ one

[mighty root]

@copper hawk

[clever swan]

if you arent spending at least 300 dollars on a headset you are making a mistake

[pale spindle]

Yeah, a "gaming" headphone is just one that uses a high frequency usb doggle to decrease latency

[placid fiber]

I spent $5 on my last one >.>

[clever swan]

that's so cute...

[carmine falcon]

got my tygr 300r for 150$ best purchase ever

[placid fiber]

I'm still using it <.<

[clever swan]

think about how much further a billion $5 headphones would go vs a $300 headset that will probably break in 1.5 years

[pale spindle]

Sorry everyone I only listen to FAT files

[placid fiber]

I would have gotten a better headset, but, I am poor

[clever swan]

i like how the corsair virtuoso does it (i have this headset but i never use this feature though) where you can plug in the headset and have a better bitrate on windows

as long as the headset doesnt break the best wireless headphones are great

[mighty root]

I need to do a ds3 playthrough

[clever swan]

the problem is that half of the headsets are made of the opposite of adamantium

[placid fiber]

I just like not having a battery on my headset, in general

[plucky gate]

I'm using a pc38x as my headset
Pretty nice headset, open back, made by sennheiser

[placid fiber]

same for my mouse and keyboard, it's annoying when they die during a gaming session

[carmine falcon]

pc38x is sick
anything by sennhiser is good tbh

[clever swan]

i have a wireless mouse and headset but a wired keyboard. a wireless keyboard scares me

[carmine falcon]

wired keebs and mouse are as good as wired versions tbh unlike headphones where stuff is still iffy

[placid fiber]

I feel like it is all down to preference

[pale spindle]

I use a wireless mouse

[clever swan]

perhaps. almost no one wants a wire just for the sake of it, though. and if they do they probably recognize it's sorta weirdchamp

[placid fiber]

If I had to I'd use wireless stuff, but, I prefer wired things as far as a headset/mouse/keyboard goes

[ornate bone]

Well I just tried the sennheiser momentum 4's and the audio quality didn't feel to far off from my old Hyperx Cloud II's.. only reason I'm getting a new headset is cause after two years they have like a 30 minute battery life.

[plucky gate]

wireless mouse technology has advanced a lot for latency compared to other wireless things

[clever swan]

if everything else was equal, audio quality, value, and durability, and everything else, latency, etc etc, and no disconnects or anything then it's obvious that you pick wireless

[placid fiber]

I mean yeah, as long as the battery life was worth a shit

[plucky gate]

unfortunately headphone companies don't give a shit about low latency wireless

[carmine falcon]

i'd do that in a heartbeat
until then wired all da way
i dont mind wireless everything else (mouse, keyboards ect)

[acoustic dune]

Love me wire

[placid fiber]

the wire can get annoying, but, at least the battery won't die randomly due to forgetting to charge/replace the batteries >.>'

[clever swan]

just plug it in when it starts blinking or at night for the headset

you can get these magnetic charging ports and just instantly plug it in that way (mainly for the headset)

[placid fiber]

I generally use cheaper end stuff for my mouse and keyboard anyway... so wired stuff generally is better

[acoustic dune]

I am more nastolgic about wires then anything

If you forget to charge
Just make a charging station

[ornate bone]

The new hyperx headset has 300h battery

[violet hornet]

Yep I use these, they're great for charging the few battery powered devices I keep on my desk

[placid fiber]

I like a halfway decent headset, but, I work with cheap end keyboards and mouses

[violet hornet]

One cable and you just rotate between which device is plugged in

[placid fiber]

And how much do they cost?

[ornate bone]

On sale for $210

[placid fiber]

Fuck that, I'm poor dude lol

[ornate bone]

Wuh

[violet hornet]

Still using my $60 g533 Logitech headset I got like 4 years ago, the mic died but it's alive again after some soldering lol

[carmine falcon]

im not gonna lie quality stuff that costs a bit doesnt break as fast so its a good investment

[violet hornet]

Wireless dongle is massive but I can walk out and check the smoker in my back yard while I'm still in the discord call

[potent gate]

I'm still using my hyperx cloud 2 and I have 0 reason to change

[placid fiber]

I mean I know it's a good investment, but, I almost never have that much extra capital to spend on it

[carmine falcon]

i have a hyper x origin mechanical keeb and i can take this thing to war and kill someone with it before it breaks and its only 70 bucks

[clever swan]

another thing about wireless is that it's almost pointless if you live in a house with dense building materials

[placid fiber]

I live in a small apartment >.>

[carmine falcon]

yeah fair
its just luxury stuff after all

[violet hornet]

It can bounce a little off some surfaces but hitting metal will just absorb it

[misty ravine]

Old houses with stucco laid over a wire mesh that acts like a Faraday cage

[plucky gate]

good thing houses in the west are made out of paper these days

[violet hornet]

Sales team had a metal mesh installed outside their meeting room and now wonder why the wifi doesn't reach in there

[final tartan]

got a steelseries arctis pro.. think its ~150,- and im happy with it.. maybe test some out in the store before u buy

[ornate bone]

I think hyperx just makes good, cheap, simple stuff. Cause I tried them against every other brand of headset in the store and they're just.. good. The mics could use improvement though.

[placid fiber]

The furthest I could get away from my pc with a headset is maybe... 25 feet or something where I live :/

[clever swan]

well, that doesnt matter. it's more the fact you can leave your pc and go to some other room and do things there

with the headset on, obviously

[final tartan]

25feet.. who measures in feets man goddamnit.. whats that in metric ?

[placid fiber]

Why would I leave my pc while using my headset? I have no reason to

[clever swan]

idk 10 meters

7.62 meters actually

[placid fiber]

I can use my phone at that point

[acoustic dune]

I want a wired headphone to be as long as my room goes

[clever swan]

welp, im sure the dozens of people in this chat with wireless headphones can let you know that they do it every picosecond

[misty ravine]

On one hand:

build house out of shitass fast-growth pine 2x4s that aren't even 2 inches by 4 inches anymore
walls effectively made of powder held together with paper
surprised pikachu face when a hurricane or tornado blows it fucking flat (you live in a place that gets them every year)

On the other hand, who now can afford to do differently?

[placid fiber]

I mean if you had a reason to do it I can see the benefit, but, I don't leave my pc while listening to something on it... unless I just use my phone instead

[acoustic dune]

Me
Shrimply don't be american or china

[clever swan]

glorious nihon also has paper like houses

[final tartan]

same here in the netherlands.. no hurricans or tornado's, just some water.. but we made a "waterwall" for that.. so we good

[ornate bone]

Uh getting up from my pc with my headset happens frequently as I'm usually in a voicechat with the boys while I do dishes, take care of the kids, move to look at what my wife's doing while we play D&D.. it's handy to be wireless

[final tartan]

imagine actually moving when listinging to some awesome music .. u wnna be able to stand up

[clever swan]

it's extremely easy to imagine why one would leave their pc with a headset on. literally any reason that could possibly happen, really

[placid fiber]

I do, my chair moves a ton despite not having wheels >.>'

[plucky gate]

imagine moving

[final tartan]

imagine grass.. or touching it

[plucky gate]

simply just live on your chair like a true gamer

[placid fiber]

pfft, heresy

[final tartan]

or smo ing it.. i would recommend that tho

[acoustic dune]

Imagine meeting a gal pal

(I am extremely lonely)

[placid fiber]

imagine (dragons)

[final tartan]

na keep that dragon gimme a fantasy gal pal.. legit

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/fantasy-sad-look-up-woman-gif-11296595

[final tartan]

40k community is the best 😄

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-ferrets-cute-cute-ferret-ferret-cute-gif-6237859641732984062

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-bug-no-its-a-spider-run-away-run-funny-dog-and-spider-gif-19647612

[final tartan]

look at this ! makes me so happy. fishdogs are the best

[clever swan]

tfw no cute dogfish pet

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dogfish-dog-fish-gif-13895089160482870064

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/imagine-all-the-people-elon-musk-gif-21465979

[placid fiber]

Pfft, everyone knows people(just like girls) aren't real

[acoustic dune]

Ai really make me piss angy

[final tartan]

is that one of the beatles ? whats hes name again... elon musk ?