zealot-class

[heady rapids]

too high considering the existence of configs

[plucky gate]

Does it actually run well? i havent tried on mine

[ornate bone]

When they released the specs for the game on release I could've sworn they said like 3080 or 3090, and 4080 4090 was the "recommended"

[heady rapids]

idk I only played on malice back when I tried lol
id imagine yes considering it has fg now and you can use max lods for even more performance

[tawdry leaf]

nah recommended is like 3060 or 2060 i think

[mighty root]

I have fps set to unlimited, super res on quality, and on + boost for low latency all of my other settings are maxed, except ray tracing and and some of the decal stuff I have ragdolls at 3

[heady rapids]

but it ran surprisingly well
used it mainly to check shops tho

[ornate bone]

I tried low latency mode before, it made it feel so bad for some reason

[heady rapids]

Dlss override - model presets

Model presets

[modern lintel]

only 300 more reapers for bestiary yippee

[heady rapids]

latest should force preset k yeah

[ornate bone]

yeah once I enable it, it goes into the other option.

and then don't touch this one?

[frosty herald]

you can also force dlss with dlss swapper

[heady rapids]

you don't need to with darktide at least

[frosty herald]

nah the overide alone is enough

[heady rapids]

This is the one you're looking to swap to latest unless for some reason you can't do it for all

J is not the latest
Latest is K

[ornate bone]

..what?

[heady rapids]

K is the newest one

[heady rapids]

Ok don't touch this one nevermind

Just use same settings on everything as in on your first screenshot

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have j either, hence why we're forcing it?

[wary timber]

Super resolution ahaha

[grizzled aspen]

Holy grub batman.

[heady rapids]

Set this to latest

[ornate bone]

If I set it to the latest, it automatically switches to option "Use different settings for each-"

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-thinking-scratch-monkey-gif-15272665

[remote lark]

New pfp? @tawdry leaf @grizzled aspen

Gonna use it for my brand but I kinda like it..

[tawdry leaf]

i fw it

[heady rapids]

Ok nvm that checks out, super resolution it is then

Latest is K
You're forcing the preset it doesn't have dlss 4 to begin with

Latest = K
It was J before K released (about two weeks ago)

[grizzled aspen]

Embrace the branding.

[ornate bone]

oooooooooooohhh

[heady rapids]

Yeah kinda dumb but it is what it is

[ornate bone]

Alright this is final. Launching game.

[heady rapids]

Yeah makes sense that the other two options are greyed out, darktide doesn't have support for fg cause you're on a 3000 series

[ornate bone]

Honestly I turned off super resolution and I thought the game looked worse?

[heady rapids]

If it has a shitty AA it will 100% look worse

dlaa is voodoo type shit, nothing even gets close

[ornate bone]

Yeah, I could physically count the grains on screen for a moment

wait those are in the super resolution options, should I select one of those or just default?

[mighty root]

What is this I’ve never seen dis

[signal spoke]

The kitsune creature

[heady rapids]

New upscaling model

[ornate bone]

this shit

oh perfect

[heady rapids]

Like preset J (the one that removed transparent ghosting and made dlss 4 perf look like dlss 3 quality) but preset K
So an upgrade

[ornate bone]

I love how we mentioned super resolution, someone showed up to laugh, and left.

Honestly don't know what most those settings do. I just built a computer to play games with friends

I also don't see those settings

Ah alright. I've only ever used DLSS on Darktide and Space Marines 2. Everything else I play doesn't even have the option.

Never enabled it on vermintide

[heady rapids]

look into lossless scaling if you want fg in a non supporting game

[ornate bone]

Different topic - Dump stat for the crusher?

[mighty root]

Defense

[ornate bone]

Nah the other games I play are optimized, no need for anything else I think

[heady rapids]

just wait until you hop on helldivers

[ornate bone]

Haven't played since release

I told the wife she can't paint furry art on the new computer and she's mad at me

[tawdry leaf]

let her

[ornate bone]

no

[tawdry leaf]

yes

[ornate bone]

WHY

[tawdry leaf]

yes

[ornate bone]

She already painted my xbox, then my last pc, then this one, now she wants to paint the new one

My side of the room: Black and Dungeons and Dragons themed.
Her side of the room: All pink, furry and MLP themed.
I shall not let such heresy leak onto my side.

I can't cause it's cute

[regal terrace]

So quick question since iam new i really like the big chainsword (idk the english name rn) but i found something out. Some if those do more damage on light attacks an less in heavy attacks but their Max damage is like only 75% and the others is 80% so at what do i need to look now ? The /80% damge or the light and heavy attack damage ? I wanna mow down hoards with it so i mistly use light Spam and dhluld therfor use one that does more light attack damage ? Or am i missunderstanding something?

[sterile basalt]

Every weapon item spawns with a RNG preset max % stat potential across all 5 of its stat modifiers, some of which will affect damage per hit

There’re 2 variants of Heavy Evicerators (chainsword but big), the mk III and mk XV

Mk III uses a hybrid between heavy, light and push attacks for horde clear

Mk XV spams light attacks for horde clear

[regal terrace]

So just Max Upgrade it and iam fine ?

[sterile basalt]

You can find a weapon with max (which is 80%) damage stat

You can also swap variants in the “mark” tab in inventory

[regal terrace]

Yes ik

[empty peak]

you want a dump stat

like duelling sword you want 60% mobility and everything else 80%

[regal terrace]

But i have a great chainsword that is on 78/80% and another ine that has like 66/78% but does a LOT more damage on a light attack

[regal terrace]

Well then what stats are good 4 the big chainsword ?

[sterile basalt]

Does that 66/78% one say Mk III?

Because that variant starts with an overhead light attack that does high damage

[misty nova]

Then that's probably the Evis3 since L1 is strike down

[regal terrace]

Yep

[sterile basalt]

Well, normally you shouldn’t use overhead attacks for horde clear

[regal terrace]

Ah ok hmm sad

[regal terrace]

Ye i use the other one with the swings

I forgor that there are different variants

Still what would a very good great cainsword look like ?

From a stat Perspektive

[sterile basalt]

For mk XV, 80% in everything except cleave target

For mk III, 80% in everything except mobility

[empty peak]

who knows, its a mid weapon

[misty nova]

mid

[regal terrace]

I dont care its fun

[regal terrace]

Ty

[empty peak]

almost everything is mobility as dump stat

[mighty root]

@acoustic dune look at his name

[obsidian prairie]

On the fucking contrary, have you SEEN their gun ownership rates

[grizzled aspen]

They're just gonna mail you a pipe bomb. It's cheaper and more effective.

Anyway, made hot ham and cheese sandwiches in the air fryer tonight. Straight gas.

[uneven galleon]

chlorine

[obsidian prairie]

That should not have been that funny

[grizzled aspen]

You're not just killing the guy that opens the box, you're airing out the whole damn building.

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859788468178386944/1066523867159466026/caption.gif

[empty peak]

yeah but thats in case they need to aim it at themselves

[uneven galleon]

extcactly

[obsidian prairie]

Whoa a suicide joke now I know to ignore you

[uneven galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-sigma-sorry-you-are-not-a-sigma-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-you-aren't-a-sigma-you-are-not-sigma-gif-337838532227751572

[mighty root]

Blud just joined and is already about to be gone

[grizzled aspen]

Who wakes up and decides they need to say things like this? Grow up.

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[wary timber]

I agree was absolutely hilarious

F it imma actually go eat that because the game I've been binging has it as a main sandwich

[mighty root]

@grizzled aspen should totally unblock me cause I’m cool and awesome

And nice

[grizzled aspen]

If only I could block fyrestone twice...

[mighty root]

[wary timber]

Geez what happened lol

[mighty root]

He’s so mean….

[grizzled aspen]

Hes annoying and never contributes anything meaningful to any conversation he takes part in.

[wary timber]

Oh jests okok

[mighty root]

Me when I lie

[wary timber]

But thats me because of uselessness in sarcasm

[grizzled aspen]

Also he routinely baits noobs into using bad stuff like lacerate flesh tearer knives and feels zero remorse for it.

[mighty root]

That’s just a lie that’s not even true what

[grizzled aspen]

I see of no reason to unblock him because he does nothing to correct any of these behaviors.

[mighty root]

I’ve never once recommended a lacerate and ft knife

[empty peak]

bro seems mad for no reason

[mighty root]

Dude I’m 100% serious what are you talking about

[heady rapids]

can anyone recommend me a knife build

[fringe bay]

you actually recommended me a good knife build

[mighty root]

Of course

[grizzled aspen]

Not in good conscience, no.

[empty peak]

anyone saying grow up to a joke automatically needs to grow up

[mighty root]

Yeah idk what Blud is on about

[empty peak]

combat knife is a great weapon....

[uneven galleon]

Fury or shroud knife ?

[heady rapids]

book

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669129318806454291/1340606508483739710/2025.01.021874635670796591126GgQLE0xa0AEWird-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[grizzled aspen]

Why would you do that...

[uneven galleon]

Well, step one is to not build book and go into gigachad fotf /j

[fringe bay]

ima go see if my graphics are set too high

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e0f505b-111f-48a6-b4a5-2e8c1e22025d/zealot-knife-build-3

[mighty root]

This is so cool

[wary timber]

I agree I hate knife builds unless its on vet

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1321885251387134023/twitter_1859491868683403761.gif?=

[obsidian prairie]

This is mostly good but don't run Swift Certainty or sprint eff on curios

[fringe bay]

yeah my framerate cap was set to unlimited on base

[uneven galleon]

I'm assuming you're going book for havoc

[modern lintel]

vet named lasgun enthusiast
doesnt have lasgun
what is the world coming too

[grizzled aspen]

Knife db weapon spec is kino.

[grizzled aspen]

Who woulda thunk that fyre is recommending trash?

[obsidian prairie]

Its literally two minor points calm down

[grizzled aspen]

🤷

[mighty root]

@remote lark please tell frog that it’s not nice to lie and tell him that I forgive him and I hope he forgives me

[empty peak]

sir troglodyte is mad for no reason

[nimble fiber]

[grizzled aspen]

Poor bait. Do better.

[mighty root]

Oops I fat fingered it my bad

But I do like sprint efficiency

[wary timber]

Id send my random bs zealot build but its actually trash and only works for me

[uneven galleon]

if you're going chorus then idk, this?? Idk if stalwart is even a good option

[heady rapids]

ye but stam regen speed

[grizzled aspen]

Stalwart is always a good option.

[obsidian prairie]

Stalwart is good, knife still has like 45% crit with this setup

[grizzled aspen]

10% tdr when fury is up and 2% more toughness from melee kills.

[uneven galleon]

alright good

[mighty root]

Real I love the efficiency in clutch but I do agree

[obsidian prairie]

You could honestly pull TWBS

[uneven galleon]

TWBS is more depends on the person in question

[obsidian prairie]

Go for anoint and purge for flamer support

[uneven galleon]

I'd assume knife would have riposte and uncanny (Or riposte precog)

[obsidian prairie]

I thought it was all kills for the hidden bonus, and its 25% tdr

[wary timber]

Kid not been using auto pistol so uh...

[grizzled aspen]

I'm remembering old stalwart, scuse me.

[obsidian prairie]

I like how we universally ignore the activation bonus on stalwart

[wary timber]

Daily reminder ham and cheese quickly oven baked isn't bad

[mighty root]

I have that on it, I think?

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1291132788128485497/unknown.gif

[grizzled aspen]

I said this earlier, I made hot ham and cheese sandwiches in the air fryer and it was peak.

[wary timber]

Disclaimer i hate airfriers but yeah not bad

Not good.. but honestly not the worst

[mighty root]

Frog block’s people for fun he kept being abrasive and I just kept hitting him with

[wary timber]

Also decided to read your profile. Yes I have found my reason. By pure grit and will I shall do as I wish.

[grizzled aspen]

Mine perfectly toasted the bread.

[wary timber]

So did my oven just not using an air frier.

[mighty root]

I don’t like being mean, I don’t mind a little silliness but no actual malice or hate

[uneven galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dog-tax-evasion-baller-gif-15976099535771671347

[mighty root]

Frog and uh that one sir dude want me dead

[wary timber]

Frog is actually kinda funny tho

[wary timber]

Oh shoot

[mighty root]

He is! Idk where he’s getting this information from about me

[grizzled aspen]

The IRS can't catch me if Musk is auditing the fuck out of them.

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908476894045937664/1291815590297866331/ezgif-7-8f58465034.gif

[uneven galleon]

zeeble bop?

[heady rapids]

fyre have I shown you my gnarp plush

[mighty root]

Zog snop?

[mighty root]

I must see this

[uneven galleon]

schnorp morp 💀 Merp "I have to do my taxes" 😭 👽

[mighty root]

[wary timber]

Well thats news. Bro wants our data

[mighty root]

This is awesome….

https://tenor.com/view/when-i-see-girls-me-when-i-see-girls-cat-cat-meme-cats-gif-4789669103410610467

[sullen forge]

Horrified of women

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/mei-mei-meimei-cat-hiss-lock-in-gif-17688478194235498727

How it feels to pop until death and lock in

The stat or damage?

[obsidian prairie]

Press inspect and hover over it

[mighty root]

Attack speed, crit, weakspot damage

[obsidian prairie]

Finesse doesn't increase crit base

[mighty root]

Opps sorry that’s finesse damage

My bad

[grizzled aspen]

I didn't know you were Cole.

[grizzled aspen]

I want to throw this creature at a wall for some reason.

[mighty root]

Badass

[grizzled aspen]

What does this mean, Cole?

[mighty root]

He’s like that one dude

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-sword-cigarette-knight-jtb8033-gif-15748561329741974891

[remote lark]

i recognize this reference

[wary timber]

Hell yeah epic

[mighty root]

Every time I see that gif I get the urge to play ultrakill

[sullen forge]

Pack of Malboro's and a Claymore

[spare talon]

I could recreate it but with a a lollipop instead of a cigarette cuz I'm silly and a loser

[grizzled aspen]

There are two smelly people in chat now, yuckers...

[hard nexus]

this would be awesome actually, not loser

[spare talon]

4Kidz censorship version

[sullen forge]

Can it be with like one of those comically large lolipops you'd have with a Pinwheel Hat

[obsidian prairie]

Wait who the fuck took the picture

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-lollipop-funny-dog-kind-dog-sweet-dog-silly-dog-gif-9459939677354165303

[hard nexus]

uh oh

[sullen forge]

Banger

[hard nexus]

this is a looong rabbithole,,,

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus You want to see me get scared at lego game

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1321885251387134023/twitter_1859491868683403761.gif

[hard nexus]

huh

[sullen forge]

I have a clip of playing a "Fucked up version" of minecraft

[hard nexus]

lego fortnite

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/jIUrv6zHl7RxwK_b9?invite=cr-MSxkd3MsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[hard nexus]

oh RLcraft

[sullen forge]

Thats not RLCraft its it own mod

[hard nexus]

close enough

[hard nexus]

were u playing wiht vic?

[heady rapids]

dude I watched a video essay on that

[sullen forge]

Streaming it for him cause he was curious

[hard nexus]

oh what

[heady rapids]

the mod

[hard nexus]

this is vv silly though

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/jIUelSBYOMs-ZwrC1?invite=cr-MSxwY1AsMTA3NDAxNTczLA
This was probably the one that horrified me the most other then the moon event I can send in a second

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii/clips/jIbJLgQvAdWn6ZC0n?invite=cr-MSxYRHMsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[mighty root]

are you having an over dose

[hard nexus]

@merry flume why do you hate me

[heady rapids]

what was the name again,,,,,

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/clips/jEHpuW9vzdCEFlbGK?invite=cr-MSxxQ2MsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[mighty root]

I will say I haven’t tried modded Minecraft how does one get into it?

[merry flume]

boring game

[hard nexus]

hawk TUAH!

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/jIU5FH9O0__W29MHA?invite=cr-MSxuSEUsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

(Turn the volume down for this one)

But its called "The Broken Script"

[mighty root]

Meth psychosis

Listen to what he says btw turn it down

My ears

[sullen forge]

Yeah its really fucking loud

Also there's now a chunk of bedrock floating here

[modern lintel]

wait untill you get to kuttenberg which coincidentally has an underground tunnel network that leads to nearly every trader

[merry flume]

https://medal.tv/games/fortnite/clips/jIOXjyWAWOKtFUFGG?invite=cr-MSx5UEwsMjcyMzU5MjU1LA real gaming here

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/jIU6Jy5DyvHDhyF3p?invite=cr-MSxqT1IsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Follow up immediately after the second event

[hard nexus]

im about 2 go there actually
that clip is older

[mighty root]

@acoustic dune

[modern lintel]

irs basically a whole new game tbh

[hard nexus]

not playing as hatsune miku BOOOORIIIING

looking thru my clips and now i wanna play war thunder again :(
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/jzmNgj5SaAWhjE4Iv?invite=cr-MSw2TW0sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[modern lintel]

be warned tho unless you know how to do very hard locks the underground basically useless @hard nexus

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/edwin-mimic-jackies-box-fnaf-my-name-is-edwin-gif-10139822896485640975

[hard nexus]

that will not be an issue

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-made-the-mimic-mimic-jackies-box-fnaf-edwin-gif-15503712513365252637

[hard nexus]

where is my ball

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-edwin-my-name-is-edwin-jackies-box-morbius-movie-gif-10246307195539766134

[modern lintel]

and easiest way to do it is in the night just find your way to wear the owner sleeps and take his keys so you dont have to open up every lock every time you want to steal again

[sullen forge]

So this led up to the Anomaly 2 event

here we go again BABY

[modern lintel]

my fav pics after beating the game

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii/clips/jHHC298PVnDIis6am?invite=cr-MSwxTGksMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

https://medal.tv/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii/clips/jIvgWh2EM3ejbkwrc?invite=cr-MSw4U3gsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA when this played i was so happy ,,

[sullen forge]

He's coming

[obsidian prairie]

Holy shit those damage numbers are fucking crazy compared to 1

[median steeple]

have you seen the new enviroment

[copper hawk]

have u seen... YO MAMA !

[wary timber]

Did they make combat easier? Or am I just weird

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-palas-palas-cat-green-fire-gif-9691844312166040256

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/then-i'll-ill-surpass-it-gif-9695747661629329569

[sullen forge]

I am GRITTING MY FUCKING TEETH

I dont want to look at him or else the clip is gonna happen again

[hard nexus]

no what

[spare burrow]

was checking peoples havoc builds and this dude is running relic blade, ive always hated it but is there somethin gi dont get about it? i prefer the eviserator

[plush estuary]

[hard nexus]

relic is really strong, to the point of OP

[plush estuary]

its just a better evis

[spare burrow]

is there anythin about it? like the charging run or the ability functionality?

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-bridget-guilty-gear-shiggy-wiggy-gif-26441575

[teal plover]

anyone got a tactical axe setup they recommend?

[fleet zealot]

bringing this back

relic is just better evisc, no target caps, less dangerous single target damage, smoother combos

[wary timber]

Hah nice

[modern lintel]

hell actually yell that sometimes as a battle cry also had him go " heres henry" once when sneaking up on someone

[fleet zealot]

the charge system is way less punishing than rev'ing and the swords are arguably still better than evi uncharged vs unrev'd

[spare burrow]

i was trying the mark 10 i dont even have it leveled up but thats what he was using. the left right stab feels terrible to me, am i supposed to block cancel the animation or something?

[wary timber]

I could.. but a lot hate my setups ngl

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii/clips/jHhUqFIDHNZQlgEQH?invite=cr-MSxmNWIsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[wary timber]

I can't wait to grab 2 and play it ngl

[modern lintel]

discombobulate your enemies with the knowledge that if they lose youll potentially eat them

[fleet zealot]

the lmb spam is the standard for mixed hordes and even normal hordes because of how fast it is

[teal plover]

I'm happy with anything, what're you cooking?

[fleet zealot]

the l3 is fine either poke a bruiser or elite in the head and move on with l1 and l2

[wary timber]

Ok be prepared to hate

[fleet zealot]

check pins for relic blade specific blessings and perks

as for talents, any keystone works, even blazing piety since relic does have above average finesse on it's single target swings

[median steeple]

da gloom

[modern lintel]

only evil people use the mk10 over the mk2

[fleet zealot]

you also count as blocking while in the special action animation which makes it pretty handy

mk10 vs mk2 is no different from the heavy swords 6 vs 7 vs 9 arguement, pick whichever one you enjoy more

[fleet zealot]

my hate is ready ngl

[wary timber]

Here's a random one I just decided to grab I should probably make more ngl but yeah. The perks can be changed around so I often don't select them on the site.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d6b3a20-e332-435a-961d-584726850b56/tactical-vet

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLg04uu2j2o

[wary timber]

Oh uh not perks in the skill tree perks on the bobbles

[modern lintel]

absolutely not

[fleet zealot]

weakspot perk, BM and agile so no big dps boost from shred/ht/or even decimator

agile being on the best dodge weapons in the game

1 wound curio, serrated blade

[wary timber]

Ngl a main setup I use ofc on vet so ill make a zealot one that was simply a taste

[naive wharf]

perfect stats first buy https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1323767673263362098.webp?size=80

peak

also how is it STILL 15 second slowmode, like damn

[wary timber]

Told you ya wouldn't like it

[fleet zealot]

smoke nades for some reason when taxe brauto CAn't handle carapace and bulwark packs

[fleet zealot]

yea because it's bad you can post it in vet chat they will say the same thing, it's bad to recommend it imo

[wary timber]

This however is a main setup I enjoy so eh.

Good I want to fight them all thats the idea behind it

[teal plover]

never let it be said you're not unique

[fleet zealot]

you recommend this shit yea we are gonna call it out new players can learn optimal builds first and learn to diverge from there

[teal plover]

but nah I'm glad you like it haha

[wary timber]

No need I'll call it out myself haha thats why I gave warnings

[modern lintel]

bait used to be believable

[fleet zealot]

@spare talon @teal plover here epic cole is the resident taxe expert

i summon thee forth

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[tame sluice]

fellas I ran into someone running something damn near close to the worst possible zealot build in auric just a second ago

[wary timber]

Ey it works on auric maelstrom just fine so yeah I'll gladly use it

[naive wharf]

smoke stealth with focus is some wild shit, fuck it though, if its fun and works for you, go off

[tame sluice]

like this isn't far off from the theoretical weakest possible zealot build right? or am I crazy

[spare talon]

for zealot?

[hard nexus]

ohg that, i have 2 play it at some poinrt

[spare talon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d542ea0-2eca-412b-979e-a74c9d3ede8b/left-click-lobotomite-immortal?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button @teal plover

[wary timber]

Smoke gives extra cover for my mates from ranged trash while I slink off and deal with it before dealing with a small horde usually. Or I cancel a special and help a mate up whatever is needed it works and its fun so meh

[teal plover]

yeah ty!

[tame sluice]

stealth, smokes, and focus? what kinda fucked up skill tree pathing

only way the pathing would be more fucked is if it takes ammo aura too

[wary timber]

Lemme know if you want me to make one for zealot instead. I don't use tactical axe on zealot due to my beliefs in "zealot only uses heavy stuff"

[tame sluice]

skill tree is a Z

[teal plover]

he's atleast got the damage reduction, but that enemies within, enemies without hurts

[fleet zealot]

i needed this so bad

i've seen too many bad builds in a row i was on the edge of posting a zipbomb of ferrets /hj

[teal plover]

I play everything so I'm still interested in the Vet one, if you've got a Zealot one around then sure!

[spare talon]

all of my builds are awesome

[copper hawk]

i love talkin in tf2 pubs and getting frs from random ppl

Lesbian Divorced Dad has sent you a friend request

[wary timber]

Okok I'll toss one at you in a sec

[naive wharf]

get ready to see another bad one, ferret man, this is the combat knife build iv been using on auric and off of havoc for a bit, its pretty fun, sometimes i switch off of immolation and onto knives and off of bolt pistol and onto flamer depending on how i feel
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3ee9c6-b477-44ce-a630-b4a8fe6e342b/funny-zealot-build-iv-been-using-off-of-havoc?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[fleet zealot]

no, no it's not even bad like the other ones

[spare talon]

masters retribution tho.....

[naive wharf]

didn't know where else to put it, and its useful in case a dog tries some actual bs

[fleet zealot]

it's mid at best, like master's retribution, cdr curios despite having IoD, and no sustained assault

Like it wouldn't make me rip my hair out if i saw it, you at least have the right idea

[tame sluice]

gunker being the only normal one

[naive wharf]

id like thy wrath because stuns can cause some bs when dealing with reapers and ragers

[sterile basalt]

CDR despite IOD is not horrible

[fleet zealot]

i really think it's just, not needed you got 100% on attack speed uptime

[spare talon]

cdr with iod is effectively saving 1.2 seconds in real time

[sterile basalt]

They don’t interact at all

[teal plover]

seems solid, will give it a go, ty!

[spare talon]

exactly

[fleet zealot]

but i'm not starting this talk. i just don't personally like it but that's why i didn't call the build bad

[naive wharf]

if i wanted to, i could switch off of fire nade and onto knives and switch to flamer, so i can take poitns off of restoring faith and the toughness boost to put into sustained assault

but id rather have restoring faith for slightly negating some rager chip damage, the double hit thing that they do is dumb as hell, and should not be considered ok

[sterile basalt]

I got smth to show u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1324605503191388220/Rager_electric_boogaloo.mp4?ex=6778c281&is=67777101&hm=30ab0a12a294228bf8b3defea911311727c208b942d51984fd325d6a2854c977&

[naive wharf]

i love spamming ability!!! i love running past 30 shooters to stab some dumbass gunner who farted wrong

[spare talon]

iod = 3x regen rate
cdr perks = -3.6 seconds from base cooldown

without cdr perks, your ability is 30 seconds
with iod, its now 10 seconds in real time

with cdr perks, your cooldown is now 26.4 seconds
with iod, its now 8.8 seconds in real time

a 1.2 second difference of effective time saved between having the perks and not having the perks

its not the fact that the buffs dont interact with each other, its the end result after both do their thing

[sterile basalt]

Yea it doesn’t do that much
I said it’s not “horrible”, it also just isn’t very good

[spare talon]

whats funny is tho

thats also the best outcome
if they did interact
the time saved would be much worse

[naive wharf]

i also just dont have the diamantine/sire melk shit to get new set of curios or to change them back and forth

[spare talon]

i dont think perks cost anything to change

[sterile basalt]

They do cost diamantine

[naive wharf]

70 diamantine to switch lvl 4 perks on curios

for weapons its just dockets
which im also sorta poor on atm, because im buying shit to level masteries

[spare talon]

ig that tells you how much i mess with curios
or even pay attention to them at all, regardless of build due to how much resources i have on both

[naive wharf]

also, dump on chain-axe is 60, mobility, right?

[spare talon]

i just clicka da button

[spare talon]

defences
you really want that dodge distance for chaxe

[sterile basalt]

Defences

[naive wharf]

FUCK

crying rn

[sterile basalt]

It’s ok it’s not the worst

Chainaxe still mid overall

[naive wharf]

i have/had one on my veteran that was 70/70 on defences/mobility

[sterile basalt]

That’s also ok tbh

[naive wharf]

thought best of both worlds
dunno if i still have it

well im throwing away this chainaxe for the diamantine

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-i-dont-want-to-play-andy-woody-sad-gif-17075553

[fleet zealot]

chax isnt' mid, it's the best of the weapons that have a target cap

[wary timber]

I encourage you to be prepared for what you will see. Trust lmao this is completely untested and now I wanna atleast test it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3eee0a-63b3-487e-bb9e-1ea1d69c5e18/polishing-zealot

[naive wharf]

not like im ever gonna use it
ogryn is the only class i went through the effort of having every best possible weapon

[fleet zealot]

so like, above average, it has amazing single target

[naive wharf]

is the relic blade dump at least heat management, would break my heart if it was still mobility

[wary timber]

Trust me anything I use just isn't worth it for most people lmao

[tame sluice]

In practice this just means that not only do dreg ragers always do their most dangerous attack at least once every single time you engage them. Their most dangerous attack is also more dangerous than it is on scab ragers

[naive wharf]

because i had one that was dumped in mobility, and didn't like how stupidly short the dodges felt, so i got a new one and threw the old one away for diamantine (crack)

[fleet zealot]

reload speed ib flamer, all or nothing without desperation talent, chorus extension node, martyrdom's terrible cdr option EWEW for some reason

[tame sluice]

So Dreg Ragers are always more immediately threatening when they show up, and any time you make slight distance from them for any reason (the horde pushes them away, your weapon has high dodge range, etc.)

[fleet zealot]

no crit talents with a high finess weapon you should sign up a 3 letter agency

you can torture people with that

[sterile basalt]

Nah they’re way easier to fight in melee most of the time

[wary timber]

Hahaha thank you

[sterile basalt]

Unless you’re psyker ig

[fleet zealot]

voice of terra with IB on flamer

[tame sluice]

the only thing making scab ragers even comparable to dreg ragers is the hitmass

[fleet zealot]

i'm actually going to explode

[naive wharf]

when i fight any rager in melee (as my zealot), i just spam FOTF as the knife push attack

[tame sluice]

they are a joke offensively just a pain in the ass to chew through the carapace

[fleet zealot]

if the scab ragers were patched properly so their chest AND core were carapace, it would be a lot better

[naive wharf]

literally headbutting them with fotf, its funny as hell

[tame sluice]

they're so much worse in mixed hordes than dreg ragers

[fleet zealot]

but dots kill them like flak still, and they lean forward so it's easy asf to land headshots on their flak head

it is like, a surprisingly unimpactful change i'm honestly disappointed

[wary timber]

Agreed I love doing that before chainsawing them in half -insert lancer chainsaw kill from gears of war-

[fleet zealot]

(tldr, dots show up in psykanium on scab ragers as carapace, but it's actually using flak armor type for the damage calculation)

[naive wharf]

the chain weapons make me sad, because its cool and all when you are cutting an ogryn or some other elite in half, but then some other guy walks up to you and spanks you while your in the middle of doing it

[sterile basalt]

Stagger from melee also very consistently makes them default to standard combo

So even if you’re caught by them you can still very easily turn the fight against them

[wary timber]

Yeah I feel like it should have a little fear boost when you use a chainsaw action on an enemy

Just gimme a fear gauge on the enemy I would love that ngl

[fleet zealot]

fotf is basically your stagger for chain weapons, which sucks, and why mk4 chaxe is the best out of all chain weapons (it can just light spam for single target)

[teal plover]

I love this sorta stuff, thanks Lucky. You keep cookin!

[naive wharf]

i think the double hits that ragers do are bs and shouldn't really be allowed for 2 reasons
1.being hit ONCE by a volley of theirs will instantly do health damage without gold toughness, so on builds without a stun resist, one mistake around 1-2 ragers could spell death for most new player, and even decently experienced ones
2.it makes blocking them so stamina costly, that its more worth running away then blocking and finding an opening to attack
and this is all magnified 100 times worse when there are more then 2 ragers

[fleet zealot]

it's ragers that's how they are supposed to be

they are loud, if you are caught in melee it's a big teacher that unless you have the tools to match them in melee, you need to block and dodge back and wait for an opening or blast them then and there

[elder heron]

For martydom do you just need to be missing the health from the wound or does it need to be taken by corruption

[fleet zealot]

plus part of the blocking issue is just that, DT you don't prioriotize blocking stats like you did in vt2

[wary timber]

Thanks I just like pulling random stuff that could work ngl. You can use your own ranged if you wanna actually test that I'll test it myself whenever I hop on

[teal plover]

missing. a lot of people just sit in a fire barrel for a bit

[fleet zealot]

like yea take plague monks or berserkers from vt2 if you took no BCR and stam will eat through your guard quick

with how well dt flows on more of a dodge focus, i'd hesitate to start making changes to make blocking more important outside of things like deflector

[wary timber]

I love it because its "stay at deaths door" but usually I rarely even get past the first bar... Really should be changed from raw health instead of pips

[fleet zealot]

as long as they don't have hp in them, purple and/or empty works

[fleet zealot]

raw health is what it used to be and it was bad.

[wary timber]

I have a idea there actually... Ever played DMC? Yeah royal guard perfect means stored dmg on the weapon eventually unleash it on a random enemy lol.

[fleet zealot]

stacked HP? well you are cutting your bonus hp into a small fraction. stacked toughness? well now you have no HP.

Wounds makes it an easy fixed set of values that you can easily judge where you want to be at

[fleet zealot]

sounds convuluted for a horde shooter, the only thing I'd say i'd maybe want is more "parry" weapons and timed block blessings

[wary timber]

Yes

[fleet zealot]

and for fatshark not stealth nerfing existing timed block blessings and making the new block blessings dead on arrival i mean come on

[wary timber]

I want more parry weapons my brain desires it... I played too much royal guard dante..

[fleet zealot]

fatshark why tf does the relic blade timed block blessings have a cooldown it's a persistent buff that wouldn't even be super strong if you can manage 100% uptime and then in that case if a player can consistently perfect block they should be rewarded

[wary timber]

Yes

[fleet zealot]

and then they Stealth nerfed Lightning Reflexes on Shock Mauls, THE ONE BLESSING THAT GAVE shock mauls a niche outside of "tase that bulwark"

lightning reflexes shock maul made it an amazing rager dispatcher, which fit perfectly with being a police taser baton,

but no, put in a 3 second cooldown, making it dead since you can only stun one rager per perfect block and only one stun per 3 seconds

[clever swan]

nemesis daemonhammer for psyker WHEN

[tame sluice]

block blessings aren't allowed to be good silly

[fleet zealot]

I want EVERYYONE who calls me a fatshark simp read this manifesto i swear on the god emperor

[wary timber]

Noooooo dang ittt

[tame sluice]

still bullshit that of all the weapons to not have block related blessings the devils claw is one of them

[fleet zealot]

unless you are psyker

[tame sluice]

yes I know the parry isn't technically a block, but come on it's right there

[wary timber]

Insert crying zealot (or crying Isaac from deadspace whichever is funnier)

[tame sluice]

give it a squintillion rending on parry, have it one shot crushers

[fleet zealot]

that one i can just see being, parry isn't programmed exactly like a block but yea it should be there as well lol, could easily give it counterattack blessing (and buff that blessing please)

[acoustic dune]

die

[fleet zealot]

i said that the first attack speed blessing in DT would be wildly OP and meta defining and emperor willing they proved me wrong

10% attack speed for 3 seconds on an 8 second cooldown and only on timed block

i fully expected swift slaying 2.0

instead we got less than 50% uptime on a single talent worth of attack speed

[timber wigeon]

Does anyone have a guide for just a flesh wound?

[fleet zealot]

train or twins

don't pick any wound curios, play on damnation,

[timber wigeon]

Never thought of train mission

[timber wigeon]

Why not heresy if its easier?

[fleet zealot]

you have one more wound on heresy

[plush estuary]

you dont, play heresy

[fleet zealot]

meaning you have to be at 1/3rd hp, instead of 1/2hp. and damnation players are better than heresy players imo

[plush estuary]

its not pubs it is a private mission

[fleet zealot]

then again, i haven't played on normal board for like a year

[fleet zealot]

huh, i guess it is

[timber wigeon]

Well I'll try to knock it out rn then

[plush estuary]

Has to be a private mission, dont forget

[timber wigeon]

Would be so much better if it was pub

[median bramble]

the guide here wrote using a boltgun for relic blade but man i hate the swap times. need that big iron

[plush estuary]

use throwing knife, throw a knife to insta pull out bolter

and I dont think bolter is worth taking on relic

[remote lark]

its just cause idk what else you'd take on a weapon that covers horde clear so perfectly

tk for ranged specialists, sword for hordes and mixed hordes, gun for if ur about to get cornered by a bunch of crushers i guess

[plush estuary]

laz pistol, zarona, shredder. Mobility

combat shotgun is good too, for bulwarks

[remote lark]

shrug
I don't like those weapons cuz some of them feel redundant cause of tk

[snow moat]

i dream of a day shotguns are good

[plush estuary]

shotguns are good

[snow moat]

combat felt awful when i tried it with vet

i think the only one that felt fun was the one with the slug but constantly special loading was such a chore

[merry flume]

shotguns are good if you didn't spoil your dinner with op guns

[tame sluice]

yeah it's really not great on vet imo. very fun on Psyker and Zealot though

Zarona has some of the best unyielding damage in the game, and its special is pretty good horde clear

[ornate bone]

I hate names

[tame sluice]

Zarona is the blue one

[snow moat]

I hate colours

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-mgr-jetstream-sam-sam-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-sam-gif-24576762

[snow moat]

i was hoping youd say marks so someone could say they hate numbers

[tame sluice]

I would but I have no idea what the mark numbers are on the shotguns

I still feel a deep urge to call the Blue Zarona shotgun the Lawbringer

[misty nova]

Lawby mentioned

[mighty root]

My name is Edwin

[acoustic dune]

where is my balls???

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/im-running-out-on-the-road-gif-7973918424225085998

[median bramble]

wait what?

🤔

[plush estuary]

dont have the game open rn, but test in the training room, you can animation cancel the bolter pullout with a throwing knife

[median bramble]

interesting. swap > throw?

[plush estuary]

throw swap, wait, idk, its all muscle memory for me

[gray ice]

I would like a Las pistol that shoots relic blades.

When fatshark

[broken walrus]

Shuriken guns are a thing in universe right?

[median bramble]

a las pistol that shoots spinning relic blade wielding ogryns.

[tawny walrus]

What shotgun do you like?

[gray ice]

The shotguns are so fun to me, sad they get dunked on so much

Well correction, lawby and kant are super fun, agri is agri

[plush estuary]

slug, DB

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine if we got an over-under model of db that shot slugs...

[gray ice]

What if we got an over under slug that shot shotguns

I'll stop this now

[grizzled aspen]

Tediore moment.

[gray ice]

Gun outta ammo? Don't worry

spike it

[median bramble]

no keep cooking

[mighty root]

I actually named myself after borderlands

[gray ice]

Ngl I did wonder at one point if your name was a reference to that

[broken walrus]

duct tape two psykers together, make them shoot warp thingies until they bout to explode, then throw them at the heretics

[mighty root]

Yas I love borderlands I picked up destiny because there was nothing else to do in borderlands

[gray ice]

Well now you got borderlands 4 to look forward to

[mighty root]

Then began the destiny addiction

[gray ice]

Destiny kinda burned all my patience and goodwill. Devs are lost in the sauce

[mighty root]

Kinda the new vault hunters look very unoriginal

[gray ice]

I beat final shape, shits done for me essentially

[mighty root]

Destiny stopped being good when they took away its identity

[delicate shadow]

I gave up on destiny after forsaken lol

[gray ice]

You mean when they couldn't determine it's identity for a decade?

[delicate shadow]

glad I got out when I did

[mighty root]

Yeah forsaken, witch queen, and final shape were some of the best expansions

[gray ice]

Their best expansions are generally that way because they break away from the tangled bullshit systems previously established. So you get to engage with a new one while they milk that one for 8 seasons, rinse repeat

[mighty root]

But yeah trying to include everyone by destroying its core identity it’s what really killed it

Imagine darktide being watered down so the only difficulty is malice

[gray ice]

It never had much of a core identity imo. It tried to capture, casual gamers, hard-core gamers, and PvP AND balance it all and failed repeatedly

I'm not saying it wasn't fun in saying it never really had an identity. But the whole history of this game is spinning too many plates

[mighty root]

Real it had subgroups that they should’ve focused on because everyone had their own niche in d2 there was a season that I only did raids and nothing else

[gray ice]

I believe fully that they shoulda dropped pvp entirely for D2, we could have a really incredible pve/endgame loop

[mighty root]

But I will say I think people like salt ruined the game the way he and his whiners cried for nerfs

[grizzled aspen]

They needed to learn to write to pull that off, and they fired their good writers after witch queen.

[mighty root]

At least salvation’s edge was a really good raid

I’ve never had to much fun playing dance dance revolution

[gray ice]

I mean most of the raids were pretty great it's where most of the effort goes

[mighty root]

True

[gray ice]

I ran vog probably 200+ times in d1 just doin sherpas cuz it was so fun and new to me

[mighty root]

I hope they drop destiny 2 and just make 3 but they said they aren’t doing that

[grizzled aspen]

Vow was fun, once. Vog was fun, but that doesn't count because it was a d1 raid. Dsc was great. Didn't have fun with any other raids, especially not fucking garden runs. Note that I did not get to play leviathan.

[mighty root]

I love vow

[grizzled aspen]

I did not enjoy last wish at all.

[gray ice]

Leviathan was fun to me, so was last wish

[mighty root]

And garden is my favorite

[acoustic dune]

you mean forspoken?

[gray ice]

The timing hahaha

[mighty root]

Last wish my beloved

[gray ice]

I liked scourge and garden as well

[grizzled aspen]

Teaching last wish was certified booty shit.

[mighty root]

Ok real but riven cheese

[gray ice]

Sparrow race in raid was the hardest skill check for some reason

[grizzled aspen]

Fucking HATED teaching that raid so much its not even funny.

And for the record, I did not teach riven cheese. Fuck that. I can legit solo her after you go back upstairs with a golden gun.

Star eater scales and some buff stacking will let me pop her eyes in one go and instantly start last stand.

[gray ice]

I didn't teach last wish so much, I just learned the mechs after two runs and stayed in the active roles, luckily back then had a decent partial group

[mighty root]

I remember season 14 with particle deconstruction and focusing lens

Season of the fusion rifle

[gray ice]

Oooh CROWN I loved crown of sorrow

[mighty root]

I loved terrabah

[long oasis]

didnt they delete forsaken from the game or something

[mighty root]

Yup

[gray ice]

Along with a buncha other content

[long oasis]

dam

[grizzled aspen]

Yes and no. You can still get out of the map in some areas and access forsaken areas. The doors even still work. They just removed the quests and normal access.

[gray ice]

The fuckin VANILLA story is gone

[gray ice]

That to me is the most hilarious thing you can do to a game, tear out the original story. It's like a beacon of no planning

[long oasis]

I tried playing d2 a bunch of times but it's kinda impossible to do anything without paying for the expansions

[mighty root]

Yeah bungie is going down the drain and soon will be own by Sony which is terrible

[gray ice]

It cannot be worse than it has been

[grizzled aspen]

It's good that you didn't. If you want a real, proper story, play the first game and disregard the second one entirely.

[obsidian prairie]

It always can

[mighty root]

Basically if I were to recommend one it’d witch queen and final shape

[obsidian prairie]

It could be an active subscription

[gray ice]

Thats the secret cap, it can always get worse

[mighty root]

It will with Sony and how much they love their products

[gray ice]

An active subscription would be impossible, would kill a game that doesn't already have that

[mighty root]

Ok real

[obsidian prairie]

Its not impossible, simply highly improbable

[mighty root]

I’m also so glad I made the switch to pc form Xbox

[gray ice]

They could absolutely nickel and dime more in the store which they did after directly saying they wouldn't

[mighty root]

And now i can’t stop building pcs

[obsidian prairie]

And good fucking gods does money like to sway the odds (I am literally doctor seuss)

[mighty root]

I hope we get a cool looter shooter soon

[long oasis]

looter shooters all died except for warframe

[gray ice]

Don't worry the next division gam- collapses onto the floor

[long oasis]

and they cant seem to get a new one off the ground

[gray ice]

Usually because it breaks its kneecaps on the same hurdles as every other looter shooter

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1160981221111779441/1199092667276079224/Hehethatme_fdc305_11238489.gif

[north sedge]

What if looter shooters are bad actually

[mighty root]

I love how corrupted this GIF is

[long oasis]

do extraction shooters count as looter shooters

[north sedge]

No

[long oasis]

why not

you loot things and shoot things

[mighty root]

Blow his head shmove off

[north sedge]

Because it's called an extraction shooter, right there in the name!

[mighty root]

Ancient iFunny days

@delicate shadow i remember seeing something about you liking fencing and I yearn for the day I get this

It’s an old picture my dad sent me when I was trying to find hema near me

I don’t want anything sharp though it looks really pretty though

[acoustic dune]

why are you looking up rapier
and not the magnificent bastard sword

[mighty root]

The thrust will always beat the cut

[acoustic dune]

counterpoint the bastard sword does both

[grizzled aspen]

Fallout raiders be like "you like the sight of your own blood?" and then I turn him into paste.

[mighty root]

Ok real

[obsidian prairie]

How about I hit you 6 feet away with a hammer

[fringe bay]

Fallout raiders when I simply vaporize them with my nuke slingshot

[mighty root]

[modern lintel]

i keep seeing shorts of this with ominous music playing and its just like an eyeball left after they say their 1 liner

[acoustic dune]

are you sure its a hammer and not a flak 88 shell with high explosive?

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna be real, I have only ever used the fat man outside of the first behemoth encounter in 3 outside GNR to get the overkill challenge in fnv, where you kill animals with it.

[fringe bay]

Yeah it’s not my general use choice, I mostly use it for bits

[obsidian prairie]

Be thankful I chose the less violent end

[grizzled aspen]

I dont even use it for deathclaws. Fo3 has the dart gun to make them a non-issue and fnv just lets me dump ap .50 cal rounds into their legs.

[acoustic dune]

hitting someone 6 feet away with a hammer sound more violent and personal

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-godzilla-funny-lol-gif-13017596

[mighty root]

I wish shock mauls were good i love the look of them

[obsidian prairie]

I don't think you out-violent slapping someone with a bomb, but personal, yes

[fleet zealot]

needed the full version of this gif

[fleet zealot]

dont worry fatshark will stealth nerf them again, no more opening bulwarks on special

[mighty root]

Hammers and spears do really be the king of weapons

[acoustic dune]

a bomb is quick and effective
you are saying to shoot a and or swing a hammer at 8 feet wish would cause extreme pain and frankly sound like torture

[fleet zealot]

if a weapon is supposed to be mid then IT won't have a single good use case - fatshark probably

[mighty root]

[obsidian prairie]

Spears are explicitly not the weapons of kings, they kill people too well with much less training involved than swords

[tawdry leaf]

@remote lark @grizzled aspen we playing Darktide tonight?

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/run-godzilla-run-its-godzilla-austin-powers-goldmember-gif-25863420

[fleet zealot]

there we go

[grizzled aspen]

I am forcing Lumii to play havocs later, he does not have a choice.

[mighty root]

[acoustic dune]

i think i can make it better
lemme open krita

[tawdry leaf]

joining you guys then

[grizzled aspen]

If youre on right now I'm about to get on.

[tawny walrus]

What's the dump on combat shotgun?

[obsidian prairie]

Mobility, but running combat shotgun on anyone but vet is dicey

I say this as a fervent combat shotgun supporter, it kinda sucks

[tawny walrus]

Gotcha. The pins says No Respite is a must have, but I don't see that as a blessing? Are the perks+blessing out of date?

[obsidian prairie]

That old ass spreadsheet? way out of date

Just use Path's vet guide for the gun

Be mindful of the +ranged boost stuff, you can't take any of that

[grizzled aspen]

No respite and full bore is pretty standard on combat shotguns.

[fleet zealot]

scattershot manstopper also being good side options

[grizzled aspen]

In other news, new glasses make the colors on my tv extra juicy.

It's so fucking crisp actually being able to see stuff clearly again.

[gray ice]

Eyesight do be nice

[tawdry leaf]

I’m on stalker 2 atm

[grizzled aspen]

I mean, without glasses, I can only see like 3ft in front of me. With the old ones I had, I could see clearly about 6 feet. With these ones, I can read road signs 50ft out.

And I am also immune to high-beams and other glares with these on, so driving is even easier.

[acoustic dune]

@fleet zealot

[fleet zealot]

Lol nice

[acoustic dune]

it was suppose to be godzilla crying inthe background but all i can find was this

[grizzled aspen]

I love when people are MILES behind me because they want to clear literally every single fucking poxwalker in the level instead of moving forward.

[fleet zealot]

Pick a hand

Slow ass team that must kill everything and check every nook and cranny even if you already checked everything there 2 minutes ago

[grizzled aspen]

Actual conversation I just had with an ogryn.
"What are y'all doing so far back for no reason?"
"I'm a sentry."

[fleet zealot]

Or stealth speedrunners who don’t kill anything and sit in airlocks and elevators spamming go there

[grizzled aspen]

Stealth speedrunners get votekicked.

[manic edge]

What other melee weapons are useful on zealot? Finished my relic blade now looking to work on another while my gun levels upn

[fleet zealot]

someone get a rescue ranger

[grizzled aspen]

Crusher.

[manic edge]

Is that the hammer?

[fleet zealot]

Everything, we can make everything work, but crusher maul, heavy sword, rashad, knife, dueling sword going to be consistently good options

[fleet zealot]

No that’s the crusher maul, the 2handed beat stick

[manic edge]

Sounds good, wanting to have a good version of everything

We don't have an inventory limit do we?

Feel like I should've asked that awhile ago

[fleet zealot]

No but you don’t need to worry

[manic edge]

Okie 😄

[grizzled aspen]

I LOVE ERROR 2001 AND 2014 THEYRE SO FUN

[fleet zealot]

Majority of variants don’t require wildly different builds or anything you can’t adjust on hadron (tho exceptions like mk4 and mk5 dueling sword having a different stat can make dedicated players have one of each)

I’d say the most mid weapons rn are shock mauls, dclaws, taxes, and chswords.

[manic edge]

Weapons seem like the easy part honestly

Finding curios has been alot harder I've noticed. My curios are not great and I feel like I'm not too sure how to get better ones other then requisitorium gambling

[olive spear]

max toughness in curio is 15%?

[clever swan]

17

[modern lintel]

duality of man

[grizzled aspen]

The match I just played was so fucking depressing. Two ds4s, a revolver, and a bolt pistol, and I still pulled top specialist damage with recon gunker despite not having fucking ammo for half the mission because these creatures hoovered everything, including two ammo crates.

I didn't think I could mald so hard about this game, but both times I got dc'd, I came back to two of them being dead.

And one of them had the nerve to spam vacuum capsule the entire mission despite having bottom damage with ds4 revolver.

This is the board after I dc'd in final event, and that took ~4 minutes after I reconnected.

Can you guess which one had the ds4 and revolver?

[clever swan]

the one with the lowest damage probably

[tepid shoal]

How do y'all feel about martydom builds?

[grizzled aspen]

Martyrdom is fun and lets you do some pretty silly things, like oneshotting things you otherwise wouldn't be able to.

[tepid shoal]

Yeah it's so fun with the relic blades

[bitter anvil]

low health = faster swinging

i do on my helm thammie.

[tepid shoal]

Marty thammer is pretty fun too

[bitter anvil]

Marty knife even faster skanking

[tepid shoal]

Never used the knives

[obsidian prairie]

Do not the martyr knife

[tepid shoal]

Piety or IJ for them?

[bitter anvil]

it's a meme build as look

[obsidian prairie]

Choose

[tepid shoal]

Fair enough

[bitter anvil]

piety knife is suitable 4 me

i spam book a lot when many enemy come

[tepid shoal]

Flamer sounds good as a ranged for a knife build

[bitter anvil]

lot enemy = book cooldown fast

[tepid shoal]

Also what even is good about stealth zealot

[obsidian prairie]

It breaks a lot of the game's mechanics when utilized correctly

[bitter anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220097429240807455/1341637530256146452/ssstwitter.com_1739854829030.mp4?ex=67b6b8d1&is=67b56751&hm=33697b04687f68405e4068875eb6a31e4d3f8af41e4633ec1fce58b6dd40d75d&

[tawdry leaf]

@remote lark lumilumilumilumi get on

[grizzled aspen]

Brother he is at work.

[tawdry leaf]

:c

He gets off in about 2-3 hours right

[grizzled aspen]

He gets off at 2am, which is 2 hours and 40 minutes from now.

[tawdry leaf]

K

[rough galleon]

I used DS4 a lot and just got told I have stage 4 inoperable cancer
I can only assume the two are related

[grizzled aspen]

I used ds4 the other day for the first time in months and got called the f slur by some random psyker.

[obsidian prairie]

Divine Retribution

[grizzled aspen]

It was really mean, too, because I clutched and saved them all.

They saw I was using ds4 and said something about "I'm not going to play with this meta abusing loser."

[hearty nebula]

holy shit rare pub W where i'm not absolutely dominating the scoreboard

i love seeing this it means the noobs are improving...

[rough galleon]

He didn't want to get cancer yeah

But it's as of yet inoperable so I'm gonna get poisoned and irradiated till the not so little cunt shrinks enough to be excised

[copper hawk]

@modern lintel i think ive found the drip arrangement im gonna use for a long while

at least until i can find like a good yellow waffenrock, preferably one of Rattay, and ill just rock that till the end of the game; i found some brigandine/noble arms and legs that'll match the yellow of the shield u get in Nebakov

[modern lintel]

i cant bring myself to use the cloth that goes over the chest

[copper hawk]

a waffenrock ? surcoats ?

[modern lintel]

surcoats mainly

[copper hawk]

u look so naked w just bare armor, il ike the coat of arms - it gives Henry a lot of additional knightly flair

idk if there's a rattay waffenrock in this one ,, mby they carried it over and i can find its itemid and cheat code myself one

[modern lintel]

ill post what i have going in a sec youll understand what im going w

[copper hawk]

i want 2 rock pookie boo thang Capon's colors

no pun intended

[modern lintel]

i was rocking saxon brigade for a while tho

[copper hawk]

a red waffenrock or a black/gray one would look nice with that me thinks ,,

[grizzled aspen]

Tmodloader, let me download what I want, please...

[snow moat]

i feel quite hungry

[modern lintel]

if they let players have jack chains id be using those instead for arms but basically

i wish i could have the maile under the coat

[copper hawk]

vry coole..

[misty glen]

Anyone know what ui mod(s) mister e is using in his new crusher build video? Besides custom ui

It's different than the video where he explains it of course lol. Looks really clean though, I dig it

[spare talon]

very cole

[copper hawk]

u r my ENEMY

[grizzled aspen]

One of my terraria mods is making all worlds party worlds...

[grizzled aspen]

Restarted the game and apparently it stopped making party worlds??? Idfk anymore...

[stable bridge]

whats the relic blades dump stat

[strong folio]

Does anyone know the go to perks for the thunder hammer?

I have thrust and the dmg buff for stunned targets but im wondering if im missing anything

[copper hawk]

Flak, unyielding+cara

Thrust slaught/hter, inexorable judgement

[grizzled aspen]

Mobility. Check pins.

[modern lintel]

@copper hawk i found a dumb man in a cave named pepa who supposedly makes very good sauerkraut

[spare talon]

And you clearly killed him for it

[visual stream]

||The whole area after you get pushed down the elevator shaft is so evil 💔 (Lesbian game)||

[modern lintel]

nono he had some laying around he wasnt watching very carefully

[tawdry leaf]

We still playing tonight? I got up to ask lol

[grizzled aspen]

Texted Lumii, no response.

[modern lintel]

i found ur house @spare talon

[tawdry leaf]

hmmmmm

[ornate bone]

I require people for havoc play with me instead 👉 👈

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna give him until 3:30 and if he doesn't answer then I'm going to bed.

[tawdry leaf]

alright

[hearty nebula]

this has now become KCD2 chat i see

[ornate bone]

Bolt pistol - is it worth to have reload time buff from skill tree sainted gunslinger? I love my blessings it's a beast don't want to change them. The reload time I sometimes problematic in my play style.

[cerulean moth]

I personally like running it on my zealot but im sure those two points could also be used somewhere else more "meta" if you wanted.

I generally play with puncutre and run n gun but your blessings seem good!

[ornate bone]

Yeah is more powerfull then my bolter in terms of base DMG

I've got something like 545 DMG or 554 don't remember

[hidden grove]

least dmg taken on a charge zealot, guess you really just gotta cut them down before they hit you 😌

[hearty nebula]

???? bro?

[signal spoke]

auric?

[hearty nebula]

no, look at the psyker

[signal spoke]

All I see the most is their level

[tawdry leaf]

i love this build

[paper pine]

I just realised zealot has slowmode and all the other classes dont

[tawdry leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[paper pine]

Stabby sword?

[hidden grove]

relic x

[reef flower]

Aww chat is still punished

[signal spoke]

Indeed and deserved

[misty helm]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-box-of-shame-peeking-box-punishment-gif-17791313

[paper pine]

TWBS is better that until death

https://tenor.com/view/restless-gif-1514542008269461846

[misty nova]

You gotta go more delulu than that
Idk, say something good about Emperor's bullet

[paper pine]

If you're a good player there's no guarantee that you will use until death, yes it can happen, but skill issue

Even if you're a god, you will be stunned, and on havoc 40 that can kill you before you can blink

[paper pine]

It allows you to get to beacon of purity

[misty nova]

No no no
Any situation that ends with death only reinforces Until Death
You might need to rethink that TWBS take

[frosty herald]

dont interact with low effort bait

[paper pine]

But there's a delay, if you get stunned once and die, and then you get stunned again...

Until death guarantees you wont die once

TWBS assists you in not dying all the time

[misty nova]

I'm trying to help his bait to be actually high effort

ATP it's just so easy to say "Don't get hit lol"
Then you just don't care about Twbs or Until Death

Just don't get hit lol

[paper pine]

Well you only trigger until death if you get hit many times or fail or avoid a crusher overhead

It's a lot easier to avoid death than avoid a stun

[misty nova]

But what if I avoid the stun

[paper pine]

Well you might do, but inevitably you will be stunned eventually

[misty nova]

inevitably

[paper pine]

eventually

[hidden grove]

the bigger issue is, if the competition to TWBS we are talking about here is Until Death, you'd have to route down through Loner 😒

[paper pine]

True, it is behind a talent that only helps for autopistol

Scenario

You are fighting a crusher
It goes for overhead
Another enemy stuns you while you're charging your heavy melee

With until death = the crusher will land on you, you will lose all your hp but still survive

With TWBS = you aren't stunned and therefore can move out the way of the overhead so you don't lose all your hp or die

[obsidian quail]

the hell is twbs

[ornate bone]

Well I like until dead even if avoided DMG it can save the run

[frosty herald]

taking both twbs and until death

[ornate bone]

And it's good for Zealots with to much fury hahaha

[paper pine]

Yeah both are great talents but imo if you're at the top of the skill curve them TWBS is better to take over anything

[ornate bone]

I personally had a tanky toughness/ regeneration Zealot with relic blade that Regen toughness you fell immortal

[misty nova]

Thy Wrath Be Swift
It's immunity to stun or slow
But because FS changed gunner stun it ended up being a situational talent, still a good pick on slow weapons

[ornate bone]

But when I've got better I didn't really use until death

[paper pine]

It's still good for bs situations

Like getting killed inside nurgle

[ornate bone]

Yeah on when you are super aggressive like to rush I get this a lot playing Zealot your like unstoppable killing machine and get carried away going for more and more tough enemies

But still is better to focus on dashing finding space going around group of though enemies the counting on until death

Maybe with specific build could be very good

We need cursed weapons that suck life

[ornate bone]

But not sure what would be the price for using cursed weapon

[ornate bone]

Nice maybe gonna try it out later

I think I've had something similar but I did use martyrs purpose since I'm gonna get hit a lot

[hidden grove]

but honestly, it's actually just don't get hit in melee, not that hard if you got a fast enough hitting weapon like relic x and cleaving hordes with long reach

3x 20% gunner res meta now for a reason

[misty nova]

MP is just not good at all

[hidden grove]

because that is most of the incoming dmg you'd take

[misty nova]

If you assume you're going to get hit a lot, at some point you just won't have the health to get value out of MP

[frosty herald]

i exclusively use relic blade thammer and crusher on zealot so thats what the build is built around but can be used for every single weapon

inb4 cole fixes my build

[ornate bone]

Ok

[misty nova]

Based Vicious Offering

If that build had Blood Redemption then I'd think you were going for the 17%+ toughness on heavy build

[ornate bone]

Ok so mp only works when you lose hp?

[hearty nebula]

yes

which is bad for how little cdr it actually gives you

so don't use it

like i'd rather have them replace martyr's purpose with something that grants you some form of TDR

[misty nova]

Making one of the tankiest build even tankier

[ornate bone]

That is also stupid then you've got skill that is for tank but when you have tank build it doesn't work

I think I need to re understand many skills

For example DMG taken is counted at the final result of hit in MP isit true for all DMG taken skills ?

Or are there differences with similar skills ?

That one time is counted like mp and in other similar ones different ?

[hidden grove]

MP actually do give you a lot of cdr, when I first played this game I used it on a martyr build, getting hit once or twice would insta recharge book

problem is, it's hp..

[misty nova]

Well it would be broken if it was. Tg
Imagine using chorus then taking 100 tg damage after you stopped channeling and regaining all of chorus cd again
Infinite chorus glitch

[vast basin]

I mean what if it was simply %reduced cd per wound missing

might actually be worth taking then

[full nebula]

I got kicked from tanners server

[vast basin]

well you see, your error was being in that server to begin with

[misty nova]

[signal spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1001989461279785091.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[real sonnet]

Chat is this real?

[full nebula]

Nah, i was expecting it eventually. People didn't like me because I was poorly trolling on purpose.

[signal spoke]

Stinky server full of stinky people

[real sonnet]

I feel like ability regen, toughness and stamina regen will always be the 3 best perks for curios

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[full nebula]

It's pretty toxic, get called the R word about 100 times for nothing

[signal spoke]

[full nebula]

I tried to have an actual conversation, then that got tossed out the window immediately. So I just started posting stupid shit in General to annoy people. Looks like it worked.

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[hidden grove]

havoc mods made it meta, just ranged critters now take your entire toughness in one burst if not your life, much less them gunners 😒

[real sonnet]

Okay... But resistance to gunner does not affect stalkers or shotgunners

Only gunners and reapers

It's not worth running gunner resistance unless you're Ogryn

[hidden grove]

the ONLY things that wipe teams 90% of the time

[dull matrix]

[real sonnet]

Change that gunner resistance for combat ability cooldown

And you should be able to spam gold toughness more

Which is a better safety net for havoc

[hidden grove]

that cd on crit thing makes the curio cd value much less, truuuust

[real sonnet]

7 seconds off is still 7 seconds off

A lot can happen in those 7s difference

Main example, getting gunned down

[mighty root]

Both are good for havoc but I’d take gunner res, ability regen, and stam regen

[hidden grove]

if you are book bot that can be argued true

but, if you are swinging at the the front

[real sonnet]

You're supposed to run book on zealot in havoc

Any deviation and then you're playing non meta

Which is not bad but y'know, just no longer meta

[hidden grove]

that's what I thought too hehe, until

[mighty root]

I like using fury in havoc

Relic with fury my beloved

[hidden grove]

if you git gud you can run anything, it's just an unfair world 😉

[mighty root]

Kinda depends on the team as well

[real sonnet]

"I sacrifice team support to be able to get selfish boosts" yes of course that's gonna be reflected on the scoreboard LOL

That's how making selfish builds works silly, you do more yourself

[mighty root]

Ngl I used to run ability regen but now i can’t tell a difference with or without it

[real sonnet]

Isn't that because fury is 30s?

12% is just 3 seconds less

[mighty root]

Yeah and crit cooldown just makes it no needed

Even with book

[real sonnet]

Again with book it's 7s

[mighty root]

[real sonnet]

Very good because the timer already starts going down when you use it

Not when you stop using it

[hidden grove]

sorry but "selfish build" is only an actual problem if you are not carrying

[real sonnet]

I never said it was a problem

I'm saying that you shouldn't claim it's meta due to stats

When making a selfish/carry build will inevitably make you have better stats

That's how it works since you're putting more weight and power on yourself

And giving less to your teammates

[hidden grove]

it's absolutely meta if it can perform at par or above current meta builds

non-meta are things that get by but doesn't actually perform

[real sonnet]

I think your team was struggling a little with that amount of damage taken

[hidden grove]

your point?

I'm responsible for their gameplay now

[real sonnet]

Meta book zealot would've defenitely helped them on that

[real sonnet]

Not really no, but the team could've done better if you played meta

Havoc meta is just abusing gold toughness and keeping it up forever

Sticking all together and funneling enemies into a chokepoint

[hidden grove]

that's a hypothetical

[real sonnet]

Gold toughness prevents damage

That is not an hypothetical

[hidden grove]

it is, you don't know when or how they took that damage, nor can you account for how many crushers was one shotted or ragers groups maulled down due to charge

whereby they won't be taking any hit to begin with

[real sonnet]

I think it's pretty reasonable to state that if they had more gold toughness they would've taken less damage right

Is this a crazy thing to say?

[hidden grove]

no, because gold toughness doesn't help with crusher overhead 😂

but dead crushers do

[real sonnet]

It doesn't fully deplete their hp if I remember correctly

[hidden grove]

point is, yes it's possible it would have helped, or it could have been even worse, it's all hypotheticals. Sometimes the best defense is a good offence

[real sonnet]

Offence works yes

But better positioning and more stagger is more consistent and has way lower risk

While also shredding everything on the funnel

[hidden grove]

hey, if you are trying to say a newbie shouldn't go charge and should stick to been a book bot, I'm all for it

[real sonnet]

I'm saying you can run whatever but it's weird to call non meta, meta just because of stats

Like, if you didn't dealt all that damage, it would've been distributed among your teammates

[hidden grove]

just because of stats, why do you think things are meta, if not because of consistent stats 😂

[real sonnet]

I meant to say scoreboard stats but eh

[hidden grove]

that's again, another hypotheticals, they could have been dead 😂

[real sonnet]

I think you do get the point

[real sonnet]

mhm

[hybrid jewel]

Gold toughness just lets you shrug off without damage, last I saw.

[real sonnet]

Even better if so

[hybrid jewel]

Watched ppl eat crusher and mauler overheads with it. They are usually fine unless reaper jumpscare.

[clever swan]

TIL if you give a person a carriable right when they pick up another carriable (though you probably need to start the giving animation before they pick it up) you can delete the carriable they pick up

[misty nova]

[vocal gazelle]

Can fs give us a power glaive?

[heady rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1it29j8/zealot_gameplay/

[carmine falcon]

he mashing that keyboard tho

[sullen forge]

Mfers CANNOT handle doing Rolling Steel at all holy shit

[real sonnet]

LOL

Imagine Rolling Steel on Havoc

[sullen forge]

First objective hearing constant downs

[real sonnet]

That would be funnyq

[sullen forge]

Like how the fuck are you managing this level of throwing

[heady rapids]

rolling steel is always either the easiest or the hardest mission

the ultimate iq test

[sullen forge]

Ultimate sandbagging test Istg

[carmine falcon]

this
if people understand the level its a breeze
if not then ggwp

[sullen forge]

If you genuinely cannot keep up with your team on Rolling you deserve to be bullied

[carmine falcon]

it's literally the PUSH FORWARD mission so push with the team until objective then hold a chokepoint
rinse and repeat

[hidden grove]

if that train map is on the auric rotation, it will somehow magically guaranteed to queue into your quickplay, and also guaranteed to wipe

[carmine falcon]

i had a new fella seething in chat cause i closed the first door on the first objective

noooo my kills!!!!

[red pawn]

It was the combat knife, according to somebody's steam guide

[fleet zealot]

you only dump pen if you know what you are doing while also using uncanny strike

[spare dome]

chaxe12 also doesnt care about a maxed out pen stat from testing i did

[fleet zealot]

yea but that's icky

i googled chaxe 12 and my brain was upset i didn't get chain axe stuff

like i'd be genuinely concerned about the flaks on lights

[spare dome]

oh this was for havoc, granted

[fleet zealot]

if i'm playing havoc i ain't using a chaxe

[spare dome]

but basically 70% is fine, you can split your dump stats

[fleet zealot]

i can only simp so hard for a weapon

[spare dome]

I've been doing chaxe12 all week for havoc, to pretty good result

[hard nexus]

booriiiiing

[spare dome]

but yea i dont care about bruiser nor trash breakpoints too much for havoc

[misty ravine]

The batteries section is the worst, people split up and get fucked over, and/or get shot up at the spot where the batteries get placed

[hard nexus]

not everyone on reddit is terrible, some of them are decent

also there’s 2, you can dump pen on ds i’m pretty sure too

[spare dome]

especially on a chaxe12 doing a whopping 20% damage after its second target lol

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis does 33% to the second target..

then like 18% i think

frown tuah.