zealot-class

[hidden grove]

not to mention you'd have to waste like 4 more points in small nodes routing around

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/black-ops-woods-cod-gif-17392574626699745990

dodge crusher and oneshot it with a duelist stab

[hidden grove]

it's a knife, not ds4, you aren't one shotting anything unless you backstab in stealth

[misty nova]

It's a knife
A finesse weapon
Duelist is more finesse
They mix and match perfectly

[heady rapids]

fotf duelist precog knife with carapace deals 3000 damage to a crusher

probably more with stacked uncanny

[frosty herald]

Carapace duelist 80 finesse easy oneshot

[heady rapids]

ij?

[stone fern]

🚬 if ds4 was given to zealot and vet i think its only fair that vet gets voidstrike

[frosty herald]

Flamer vet exe stance🤫

[stone fern]

does exi stance even do anything for flamer?

[frosty herald]

Infinite uptime if you take the shooter node

[misty nova]

Less spread
More impact and uh

[stone fern]

weakspot damage

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/vaal-vaal-orb-poe-2-poe2-corrupt-gif-11706354413714962146

[misty nova]

Fr though
Weapon Specialist with Exec for quick pull of flamer+everlasting flames

[hidden grove]

not that bad, but still looks ugly

[heady rapids]

?

[hidden grove]

that is better but more stealth needed

[ornate bone]

I can't do it, I'm just not good enough to solo havoc after 28 😢

[misty nova]

It might be crazy what I'm about to say
Havoc is not really supposed to be soloable
With that being said, I know there's people trying out there

Damn 28 though
Nice

Unrelated
Kingdom Two Crowns on Game Pass
Heard the game is good
Never played though

[signal spoke]

I never played the Kingdom Two games but I remember be interested from the first game

I do love the pixel art style and atmosphere

[heady rapids]

its good for coop

[fiery ingot]

Crowsheep

[vital rain]

Ok,noob question
I hear havoc everywhere but didnt understand what It is

[signal spoke]

It is an endgame gamemode

Imagine auric missions but on crack and throw everything at you

[vital rain]

How many end game modes are there Bro 😭
Just Yesterday i found out about auric

[signal spoke]

Havoc is build for far more experiecend and skilled players

[frosty herald]

auric and havoc are endgame with havoc being a deticated endgame mode

[signal spoke]

As for Auric is really the same as normal heresy and damn difficulties but with more extra modifiers

[misty nova]

Auric Damnation+ (from rank 25+ onwards)
Imagine the normal shooters shooting real bullets, gunners being extra dangerous and Reapers being Death Sentences

[vital rain]

Isnt havoc part of a recent update?

[frosty herald]

part of grim protocols

[signal spoke]

Yes

I would hope that Havoc gets more content and QoL but honestly i dont even know what they can do to improve lol

[heady rapids]

it should

they have content ready but then again
roaming captains had been ingame and working for over a year before havoc dropped

[signal spoke]

Captains as random boss encounters is a fun idea

[misty nova]

Oh yeah not to mention your health and toughness being reduced
Ammo being scarce (not really)

[signal spoke]

Yeah

And also for the exclusive modifiers in Havoc that makes the mode incredibly more difficult

[vital rain]

What changes between auric?

[signal spoke]

Havoc essentially becomes a cover based game

There are lot of havoc modifiers that will disrupt the rooms and gunners becoming the main danger as they can melt you in a second of them shooting much more faster

[vital rain]

Pretty much becomes real life

Like,every enemy Is as strong as you xD

[hidden grove]

two of the most notable things, ranged critters taking all your toughness in one burst, and the goo puddles

[vital rain]

Ranged critters are so op even in difficulty 4

[signal spoke]

A single gunner is more than enough to destroy all your toughness or really your entire health before going down

[vital rain]

Its the main reaspn i day pretty much

[signal spoke]

Then you are not ready for Havoc gunners with the Emperor Fading Light modifier

[hidden grove]

people who are used to auric ignores them and just charges forward 😂

[vital rain]

I hate them

[hidden grove]

finds out real fast

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vampire-bat-pixel-gif-7231209074183542492

[heady rapids]

are you running gunner resist on your curios

[signal spoke]

Shoutout to players who ignore gunners hordes when I am forced to kill them all as Ogryn

[vital rain]

Is It an ability for zealot?

[heady rapids]

no i mean perks on your curios

[vital rain]

You' d have to eplain a Lil Better what curios are xD

[heady rapids]

the 3 things you wear

[hidden grove]

don't worry about havoc

[vital rain]

Ohh,the 3 things below the weapons?

[signal spoke]

Yes

[heady rapids]

yes

[signal spoke]

Those give you small buffs for your character in general

[vital rain]

I do have resistance + 2 and ssmthng else +2

[signal spoke]

Curio perks take a lot of resources which can be a struggle to farm for new players

[heady rapids]

2 instances of gunner resistance perks give you 36% gunner res

[vital rain]

Whaaat

[hidden grove]

these things, keep an eye on them especially ones with +3 stamina

[misty nova]

Also applies to Reapers

[heady rapids]

yeah just make sure you dont buy sub 410 stamina curios

[vital rain]

Why It says 2 then ahaha

[hidden grove]

Melk will scam you with 400 stam curios

[signal spoke]

You probably bought or obtained an inferior blessing curio

[heady rapids]

its says 20, but they stack multiplicatively
so one gives you a 0.80 damage modifier, two give you a 1-0.8* 0.8 0.64, and 3 0.52

which translates to 20% resist, 36% and 42.2% resist

[signal spoke]

The curios stats at max are:
21% health max
17% Toughness
3+ Stamina
1+ Wound

[hidden grove]

this little thing here gives you only +2 in game

[vital rain]

• 2 resistance and +6% reanimation speed

[signal spoke]

You can uprade your curios in the Hadron Shrine to get more perk slots

[heady rapids]

ah
are you not level 30 yet? if you arent levle 30 i strongly recommend you dont spend your stuff on upgrading anything

[vital rain]

Thats...confusing

[signal spoke]

i think they said they unlocked Auric

[vital rain]

Nope,lvl 24
Also,i ve Seen in a video that at lvl 30 you get all yout weapons at minimum level 300 so im not upgrading stuff anymore

[vital rain]

Nono xD

Just tryng to learn the game more

[signal spoke]

Ahh I see my bad then

[heady rapids]

fatshark just doesnt like telling you whether a stat instance is additive or multiplicative

[vital rain]

Yea ahahah this game' s numbers are pretty confusing xD

Like,it 'd tell you 2 and you would think It sucks but its op asf

[heady rapids]

yeah it has a lot of confusing stuff
the biggest offender so far is toughness replenishment talents and perks

[vital rain]

Im not really thinkinf about learning any build until i hit lvl 30
Then i LL start seeing vids on metà builds to learn how the game works

[heady rapids]

and the game does not tell you that those only affect coherency toughness regen which doesnt work while you're fighting enemies in melee basically
which makes it worthless

[vital rain]

Why? Supresssion?

I know suppression exists in this game,does It work dor every enemy? Or ranged only

[heady rapids]

suppression doesnt have to do anything with it iirc, it's just that you're being in melee most of the time ESPECIALLY on zealot

and enemies that are engaging you in melee just disable that mechanic

[vital rain]

Ohh okok

[obsidian quail]

its good agaist shooters, gunners and reapers

pretty easy with any autogun, dont even need to hold the fire, just tap every second

and while you are doing so, you can relatively easy walk to them in the open field

[fiery ingot]

if there's one thing i learned in this game is: never trust what the tooltip says, only trust in zealot chat

[gray ice]

This is the way

[fiery ingot]

2h powe axe when

[gray ice]

Someday™

[hybrid jewel]

They didn't, they were confused as to what it was from memory.

[misty nova]

First Lord achieved
I'm officially a Peninsula Parker player 🗣️

[vital rain]

ok why is recon lasgun so incredibly broken

im going trough difficulty 4 missions and this thing just oneshots evrything

[raw frigate]

Should I dump mobility or defenses for an assault chainaxe? I'm thinking get one with defences at 60

[ebon bobcat]

I will bet 10 pieces of gold that mobility is the right choice

[spare dome]

depends on the mark imo

mark iv you want a defences dump because the push attack is usually used as horde clear combo, so push attack, heavy attack, repeat

[raw frigate]

Mk 12

[spare dome]

mark xii push attack is very spammable and very strong

keeping it as cheap as possible is worth it imo

i crunched numbers personally and discovered you can dump penetration to 65% and not miss any breakpoints

just run + elite

so you can split your dump stat inbetween all three values

[hybrid jewel]

Even Havoc lul?

[spare dome]

at havoc youll need + carapace as well but yes

[hybrid jewel]

Cos you want to just build as if you are going to play that so don't need a reroll.

[spare dome]

this is also zealot specific. we dont really care about pen because fury of the faithful on a shredder charge is all the damage anyway

oh like genuinely you will be able to reach most breakpoints in aurics with just + elite and tree buffs, blessings, etc. So you can run whatever you want for the second perk.

In havoc carapace + elite means you'll be in consistent two shot shredder for crushers at all times and with martyrdom at certain points you will one shot everything else with naked heavy revs

push attack is what keeps you safe and sets you up. on headshot it staggers everything except mutie charges and bosses

regi put the chaxe12 in his bottom tier in that last video and that bothered me lmao

[stone fern]

new event tomorrow yes? yes????

[spare dome]

sure!

[hybrid jewel]

To be fair, seeing Papa Willy use it tells me otherwise already lul.

[stone fern]

i like mk12 more than 4 tho 😭

[spare dome]

i like em both a lot

[hybrid jewel]

Although, he needs to stop triggering me by revving it randomly.

[heady rapids]

idk why you look at his tiers one of his havoc vids had him pick swift certainty over backstab cdr lol

[hybrid jewel]

Swift certainty has 1 use, run around a reaper for a penance if you find 3 others wanting to do it.

[spare dome]

why would i watch the guy who outputs consistent opinions based on their own logical framework and who has proven he can play with and keep up with some of the best, most knowledgeable, and capable players in the game?

gee i dunno

[heady rapids]

just gave you a reason

[spare dome]

but you make a good point, he picked a mid tier node once so he must obviously be bad and not worth dialoguing about

[hybrid jewel]

To be fair, tier list are mostly opinions barring the top usually.

[tame sluice]

that penance genuinely took me forever between Reapers being rare, sprinting not actually dodging shots because it's a shit system, and also my burning urge to kill them on sight

[hybrid jewel]

Cos something is probably OP if everyone spams it.

[hybrid jewel]

I didn't even bother, lul.

[tame sluice]

Would be nice if the Helldivers community figured that one out

[heady rapids]

tier lists are a shit system of grading stuff and dont actually tell you anything about said thing

[tame sluice]

Yeah it's why most people make tier list videos where they explain why something is where it's placed as they place it

[heady rapids]

doesnt make them any better

[hybrid jewel]

Is mostly opinions as well.

You know how ppl say chainaxe sucks.

[heady rapids]

unless you lack the attention or reading comprehension and want to get the "best" (not objectively ofc) thing asap and get back to playing

[hybrid jewel]

They clearly never touched the shock maul.

[tame sluice]

I like using the shock maul :(

And the chainaxe is very good and loosely held back from being top tier by the arbitrary cleave limit bullshit

[hybrid jewel]

Is fun to use but kinda feels bad as well?

[spare dome]

Shockmaul is a funny one.

[heady rapids]

it feels really good but lacks the damage output

also the gimmick is pretty eh 😦

[hybrid jewel]

1 vs 1 bulwark best part.

[spare dome]

Also the damage cap isn't really a big deal n havoc when even in a best case scenario you're rarely cleaving more than four targets a swing anyway

[hybrid jewel]

Just taze him lul.

[tame sluice]

It'd be cool if I didn't have to hold the thing for the full duration for the stun

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/outlast-officer-coyle-horror-electricity-prison-gif-8271226839794127965

[tame sluice]

Just tap special and bam the bulwark is struck by the invisible Smyker I placed on him like a flea

[hybrid jewel]

Or quick taze vs hold taze for duration.

[tame sluice]

also shock maul+shield for vet when

[remote lark]

I'm gonna do something funny today

I'm gonna try to make the like, mathematically worst build possible while still using all my points

@spare talon do you happen to know what the minimum possible stat distro is on a weapon

[heady rapids]

what's on the weapon that you get after finishing bastion

[remote lark]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e39fb76-2497-46ca-9bc9-45701bd06f91/avg-havocforged-title

i've made something beautiful

im gonna build this then post it on reddit with my havoc title in frame

[plucky gate]

looks like peak

[heady rapids]

why 3 stam and not 3 wounds

[remote lark]

bleed for the emperor

[spiral ridge]

hey guys is there like a guide for new players to figure out which weapon stats they should take? etc. (like dump stats for each weapon)

[remote lark]

also you're gonna die using this build so 2 sources of value from wounds means id ont wanna take wound curio

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669129318806454291/1340606508483739710/2025.01.021874635670796591126GgQLE0xa0AEWird-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[remote lark]

yea i'm making one, it'll be done tonight or tomorrow

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422099642

I intend on including a section in the beginning that talks about how to build stuff and what breakpoints are

adding images to steam guides is aids

[spiral ridge]

how do we calculate breakpoints or how do we decide which breakpoints should we go for?

[remote lark]

by asking people here, generally

otherwise, load up psych with the creature spawner mod and see if you can oneshot stuff

make sure to turn off invisibility so you can get situational buffs like duelist

i made like a dozen spreadsheets when i was testing horde clear and dps values for the relic blade when it came out

[heady rapids]

make sure to also get loadout config

[spiral ridge]

so are these stats thingy like 60 80 80 80 will be changed in the future? and we'll have to invest more resources and rng from the vendor?

[remote lark]

what's loadout config

[heady rapids]

mod that lets you freely swap weapons

[remote lark]

no 80 is the cap and one point will always have 60 if you have 80s in everything else

[spiral ridge]

so they established it properly its not subject to change?

[remote lark]

that's just how it's always been and theres no indication that it's ever going to change

[heady rapids]

https://github.com/regzo2/DT-Loadout-Config/releases/tag/0.1.12

[remote lark]

at the very least, if they ever do change it, given that theres 0 hint of it ever happening, you'll have pleenty of time to save up your resources

we all had plenty of time to save up for the lock and loaded release

[spiral ridge]

Im asking because Im planning to make best version of each weapon

it'd cost me a lot if I had to repeat that process

[misty ravine]

Again we have no idea if the equipment system will ever be overhauled in a major way again. Resources will start to pile up fast once you have your weapons built and you're consistently winning in Auric Damnation (and doing at least one high level Havoc per week)

This is Fatshark we're talking about, if they do have future plans to change the gear system they will:

• Mention it offhandedly in a stream or something
• Finally clarify after a month of being asked
• Two weeks later announce their intention to make an announcement about it next month
• Announce their intention to do it in six to eight months
• Release it later than that

[spiral ridge]

okay so about this havoc thing I dont know much about it so it shows that I have level 16 assignment rank, the higher the better right?

[tame sluice]

yeah

Goes up to 40, before 20 it's just spicy heresy, then up to like 26 is spicy damnation, 30+ is hell

[spiral ridge]

how much resources does that chest hold?

[tame sluice]

depends on your highest cleared mission of the week

[hybrid jewel]

Scales. It's pretty 'low' sub 30 though from what I heard.

[stone fern]

😭 bros............ is there a guide specifically on clutching

[hybrid jewel]

You have better net already.

[stone fern]

all that did was let me die 3 minutes after my team

[spiral ridge]

hmm so we get a weekly chest and what about completing a havoc mission? does that give us rewards too?

[hybrid jewel]

No. Playing havoc otherwise is purely for fun other than the penances.

[stone fern]

i wish telo would stream again

[heady rapids]

a bit of ordos and some plasteel from the green glowy things

and an emp gift

[spiral ridge]

no rewards? oh no thats not great. so at least I'd love to reach a rank for collecting acceptable reward weekly

[stone fern]

what the fuck why do i have a stam 2 curio

[spiral ridge]

how much ordos are we talking about?

[sterile stone]

We know what kind of person you are clad

[heady rapids]

sub 10k

[stone fern]

based is what i am

[sterile stone]

[spiral ridge]

you mean below 10k?

[sterile stone]

Don't think I forgot about that state of decay nonsense

[spiral ridge]

thats not worth at all

[misty ravine]

(not mine)

[heady rapids]

you dont play havoc for the rewards 🙂

[spiral ridge]

now thats a great reward

[remote lark]

the rewards for havoc are almost exclusively just to compensate you for the time most people spend failing lol

[stone fern]

moved to a new map and got mad the base had too much built in slop

[misty ravine]

Auric Damnation will give like 30k to 80k (for Maelstrom) ordo dockets depending on modifiers for a successful mission

Havoc is for challenge and penances if you want them. If you need dockets/plasteel/diamantine just play Aurics

[spiral ridge]

yeah thats what Im aiming for

[remote lark]

and bragging rights

[heady rapids]

well, you see, i've cleared havoc 30 on my zealot, therefore i.......

[misty ravine]

Havoc Penances & Cosmetics are the new Auric Ass Survivor

[spiral ridge]

whats the reward for 30?

[hybrid jewel]

Nobody knows anyway, who uses titles?

[remote lark]

someone pulled this on me on that reddit post that i got crucified on

"source: i'm a zealot main who has cleared havoc 30+"

[sterile stone]

Bragging rights in a pve game where the bar of entry to be considered good is just consistently beating heresy

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[remote lark]

it took every bone on my body not to respond and then end my response with
source: i'm a zealot main who has cleared havoc 40

[hybrid jewel]

"Well, you see, I've TS H40 on my Zealot so my opinion is right."

[remote lark]

"how much did you pay for the afk carry"

[misty ravine]

In this house we believe in Shift Leader Primus Supremacy.jpg

[remote lark]

the best title in the game is reject
nothing else comes close

[sterile stone]

Not using the nomad title, absolute degeneracy

[remote lark]

i treat titles like tf2 hats

if you use cosmetic titles ur a noob

default frame reject title

[spiral ridge]

so how does this work I have rank 16 but I can see lobbies like 30 or 27 etc? does that mean I can play 27 and reach rank 27 instantly? or do I have to climb one by one?

[hybrid jewel]

"None. Some nice ppl just did it while I book."

[misty ravine]

For my zealot it's Unforgiven frame with no title

[remote lark]

yeah you can get carried up instantly but i suggest climbing on your own so you don't grief people

[hybrid jewel]

Default is no title, so there!

[remote lark]

you're default

[heady rapids]

when the 4 true survivor 100 havoc completed zealots pull up into an h5 😎

[remote lark]

when they fail the h5:

[hybrid jewel]

Result is hilarious overkill, btw.

[spiral ridge]

so I have completed auric maelstorm I had a nice team that was great. So how different is havoc missions compared to auric maelstorm missions?

[stone fern]

🚬 that one dude that always works their playtime into every sentence

[remote lark]

havoc 40 btw

[stone fern]

erm i have 29474 morbillion hours so im right about this ass take

[sterile stone]

You need a unfathomable about of mental fortitude to care enough to do 100 havocs.

[hidden grove]

auric mael = h16

[remote lark]

steam forum users:

[heady rapids]

i have ~90

[stone fern]

30k hours btw

[misty ravine]

Classic level 2000 who can't stay standing in auric

[spiral ridge]

@remote lark is that true? you said heresy or smth till 26?

[sterile stone]

I got to like 53 and quit, I got everything else I wanted.

[stone fern]

i did like 5 in a row ith path you just need someone to spam demotions and host

[heady rapids]

the worst part about grinding havocs is finding someone hosting a low lvl one

[hidden grove]

hmm maybe a bit higher, but auricc mael unlocks h16 directly

[hybrid jewel]

1-25 is auric+ and below. 26-30 is very spicy auric, 31-35 is well, a shooter deleted your toughness and you took half your hp in damage.

[gray compass]

me

[remote lark]

no it's not true

[sterile stone]

That's a level of unemployment I desire to never achieve.

[stone fern]

each took like 12 minutes

[remote lark]

havoc 16 is roughly equal to auric heresy
havoc 21 is roughly equal to auric damnation
havoc 31 is roughly equal to 3veg or i-ii auric maelstrom
31+ is harder than 3veg

[hybrid jewel]

In an hour.

[misty ravine]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/havoc

These plus Auric intensity on by default, other Auric modifiers like Pox Gas etc. can also appear

[stone fern]

have 1 is like malice pretty much

[gray compass]

yeeeee

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-5848418847127216186

[remote lark]

yeah theres virtually no point in playing havoc missions under 21 if you can help it
just go play heresy or something

[gray compass]

penances

[heady rapids]

no point (sick ass cosmetics)

[hybrid jewel]

Malice with Damnation spawns.

[remote lark]

@spiral ridge

[gray compass]

i love low havocs for this reason

[stone fern]

theres no point to playing havoc in general

[remote lark]

nope
spawns are heresy or lower as havocs go lower

[heady rapids]

unique fun modifiers that we're never getting in auric board..........

[spiral ridge]

oh I see okay thanks

[gray compass]

pus hardened auric mael when fs pls

[hybrid jewel]

IDK, maybe the director hates us.

[remote lark]

always

[stone fern]

can we replace toxgas and hounds with fun shit like scab melee or brutes or horrors

[remote lark]

can we replace-

no, fatshark hates you

[stone fern]

who the actually likes playing hounds?

[heady rapids]

vet players

[gray compass]

at least muties are funny

[violet hornet]

smykers

[hybrid jewel]

Assail spammers or burgas.

[remote lark]

assasil psykers

[heady rapids]

gunluggers also i guess
donth ave to worry about ammo economy

[stone fern]

i dont think i know any person skilled enough to melee the entire dog wave mid air

[remote lark]

me

[violet hornet]

para with his neverending flamethrower

[stone fern]

whats fun about holding smite down throwing down a grenade or spawn camping the dogs

[remote lark]

@paradise

[sterile stone]

Havoc is for all the VT2 washouts go to huff each other's farts.

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

[gray compass]

EK shriek deals with the hound wave beautifully

[remote lark]

something you wana tell us

[stone fern]

I dont believe you ham and ainz can prolly do it

[solar gorge]

don't mention the goat

[bitter anvil]

I did that with GFS playing with lumii once…. Oh you means wave of dogs*

[sterile stone]

The competetive nature in this game is the most depressing thing in the world.

[remote lark]

clad unable to comprehend not getting dogged

[plucky gate]

the novelty of hunting grounds wore off for me after 2 missions

[timber wigeon]

Opinions on tanner?

[modern lintel]

listen im at the point now where i just need the 20 weekly things and the mats are nice otherwise iv done everything finally true survivor helped 100 done 100 matchs etc

[heady rapids]

pre or post hg rework

[bitter anvil]

I all time playing the dances with the dog wave, but I mostly cheese the choke points.

[modern lintel]

s tier waffler

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-bait-bait-you-bait-like-a-you-bait-like-a-pro-gman-gif-7874375902077166871

[heady rapids]

post rework they were pretty cool
pre i agree

[sterile stone]

I honest to god want more story content.

[timber wigeon]

Personally I think he's pretty grating but most of his opinions are ok

[hybrid jewel]

Ignore any tier stuff and such. Might have okay info for other things.

[plucky gate]

both i guess
when it got reworked i thought it was funny for a couple missions and then got annoyed again

[heady rapids]

i like dog modifiers they let me play darktide like a shooter

https://tenor.com/view/mgs2-solid-snake-metal-gear-solid2-metal-gear-solid-mgs-gif-27578347

[hybrid jewel]

4 frags on floor. PANIC.

[sterile stone]

There are people that would crucify you for making this statement.

[heady rapids]

sorry the only opinion i care about is my own

[timber wigeon]

The missions with the wolf packs are the most satisfying

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1321885251387134023/twitter_1859491868683403761.gif?=

[timber wigeon]

Especially with a flamer or bolter

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[modern lintel]

i had an extra nade mael once shit started turning sideways 2 ppl downed i proceeded to throw ammo pack on the groun take all 4 charges and throw 20 shredders

[solar gorge]

they should make the dog modifier but instead of dogs it's just an army of 20 tiny trappers

[bitter anvil]

Old time dog pack when survivalist no cool down: Dogs? Nah free ammos.

[violet hornet]

nurgle's alt be like

[timber wigeon]

Idk what to call them even though I've gotten to auric damnation

[sterile stone]

Still can spam my ability vs dogs

[heady rapids]

there's a poxburster spam modifier in the game files
just you wait........................

[timber wigeon]

Dogs?

[misty ravine]

Who would win:

• 100 Hound Sized Burgles
• 1 Burgle Sized Hound

[solar gorge]

aren't you special aren't you special aren't you special aren't you special aren't you special aren't you special aren't you special

[sterile stone]

You've not seen the conga line of like 8 bursters before?

[sullen forge]

Telling me you don’t like telling people to bloodlet themselves IRL for not top scoring?

[heady rapids]

imagine that but as a dedicated modifier

[hybrid jewel]

I mean, I did just that anyway if last alive. If everything is dead, is all gud, RIGHT?

[plucky gate]

isn't that just the maelstrom modifier?

[modern lintel]

my favorite is the pox modifer for havok rounding a corner and seeing like 15+ tox bombers

[plucky gate]

we already have waves of bursters. It's just maelstrom only

[timber wigeon]

Gork

[sterile stone]

I won't lie, if darktide had a pvp mode, I'd understand right. But when I see the average person I get matched with are drunk, or high, or just playing at a point they're barely focusing on the game. I can't look at people that prop themselves up like they're gods.

[solar gorge]

nurgle's purple, my favourite...

[heady rapids]

i'll have to double check and im playing gotg rn so idk
does it have smaller bursters? if not then no

[sullen forge]

That’s already a modifier, Hound packs + Burster packs + Mutant packs + extra barrels

[modern lintel]

i still think we need a modifer where is just mutants dreg ragers and weakend chaos spawns non stop

[hybrid jewel]

I get that in normal auric hi int stg already.

[sterile stone]

Nah fuck that, bring back elite resistance and endless hordes.

[plucky gate]

I think the bursters are just the same as usual but they do come in packs. You'll see a bunch of them and they're close enough to detonate all at once

[timber wigeon]

Only mutants, dogs and trappers

[sullen forge]

They come in groups of 4-8

[modern lintel]

the dreaded double trapper spawn

[sullen forge]

And you’ll hear them spawn with how loud the ticking gets

It gets really fucking loud

[sterile stone]

I love playing psyker for this exact reason.

[timber wigeon]

Psykers are the best pairing with zealot

[sullen forge]

Getting trapped right as the burster pack comes running out

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[hidden grove]

voidblast psyker theoritically allows for zealots to forgo books

[modern lintel]

psyker are nice to have on a team untill the second they get left alone most pub psyker will crumble into 100 pieces then maybe call you a slur for speed running when in actuality you were moving slighty faster then a brisk walk

[sterile stone]

That trapper net flying through that pack of crushers and a flamer or bomber decides to make a guest appearance.

[sullen forge]

Guest staring: random flamer that’s being a cunt

[heady rapids]

is this your card

[timber wigeon]

For me the hardest toxic players to stomach are ogryns

[modern lintel]

got trapped right as i hit voc once ate 2 bursters and a crusher overhead before getting picked up never went down v balance

[hybrid jewel]

Depends on the psyker with said trauma staff lul.

[timber wigeon]

Some of them are just mean

[bitter anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1287161017205526608/s3OnVwp.gif

[modern lintel]

iv never ran into a toxic ogryn outside of just gunluggers who demand all the ammo which i dont even rlly see as toxic more so just sped

[heady rapids]

@plucky gate @sullen forge

[sullen forge]

I’ve only had two instances of instant deaths from them, pack of them jumping on me whilst trapped, and me daring to attempt pushing one of the packs only for it to get shot by our Glugger

[plucky gate]

oh wtf
yeah that would be different from what we have

[sterile stone]

You know what's rare? Good ogryns.

[heady rapids]

also tzeentchian twins

you can try those out with solo play
idk how many actually work but

[frosty herald]

God i hate the hive tyrant

[modern lintel]

surprisingly when i was getting true survivor i had significantly better pub ogryns then pub psykers

[bitter anvil]

I remember met one ogryn player calling some teammates the R tard

[timber wigeon]

Has anyone solo'd havoc 40 yet?

[hybrid jewel]

Which is funny, since oggys are usually the nicest or the second most toxic, nothing in between.

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079235834777186406/1125030903136129076/purple1.mp4?ex=67b322ad&is=67b1d12d&hm=408b00bf0797907479bccd5c182468b75e1587b5b46523da92d91e6d8eac2710&

[bitter anvil]

You can’t solo havoc

[sullen forge]

Yes a lot of good players have

[tame sluice]

I have tried many times to no avail

[sterile stone]

I don't think I've seen a singular ogryn when I was going for 40s past like 30

[timber wigeon]

It's OVER

[hybrid jewel]

Most toxic being the classic zealot rager.

[heady rapids]

skill issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sullen forge]

^ @timber wigeon

[modern lintel]

depends what you consider it solo many have speedran but idk about actually playing through the match

[timber wigeon]

I forgot that you need a strike team

[tame sluice]

It's almost never actually missing a swing that ends it, but rather the dogs pushing you back and stunning you from targetin someone else, or pathing RIGHT NEXT TO YOU and jumping

[heady rapids]

i beat hive tyrant on ufkcing argentina servers the other day with 300 ping

[heady rapids]

wtf darktide but fun?!??!

[bitter anvil]

It need 2 player to play havoc, solo locked play button. Not unless you grab someone for bypassing the play button requirement then they left the match

[mild sparrow]

I've only met one, who intentionally aggroed the DH (2nd time that mission) while a BoN had spawned in along with all the other shit. They then got downed and quit.

Guess who the DH targeted? Yeah, I was not happy

[timber wigeon]

Shroudfield zealot can just run past an entire map so understandable

[tame sluice]

Or using one of many convenient mods that has better features than anything Fatshark has ever willingly made like the True Solo mod

[timber wigeon]

Good luck doing that as a psyker though

[hybrid jewel]

I had a pickaxe oggy last week in H40. Lul.

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/gogeta-angry-stare-scary-serious-gif-9595046672430067305

[heady rapids]

also this

[tame sluice]

Yeah you're right Psyker would do it faster

[modern lintel]

when i and my buddy tried for lethal on sm2 we literally 1 tried every map except the one with the helldrake i shit you not took is 7 hours to finally get it

[sullen forge]

Flaming enemies modifier would’ve been so cool and then they scrapped it

[sterile stone]

Philedelphia post super bowl

[sullen forge]

FS hates us

[heady rapids]

they didnt
its in the game and playable
they deal fucking contact damage i wish they would scrap it actually

[frosty herald]

Hive tyrant is such a bulletsponge i hate the damn thing

[bitter anvil]

If tzeetch really come

[sterile stone]

I wanna say something mean, but I have to remember you are my friend.

[bitter anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1071956713210646560/1340032361563295877/AQO4saydqtlebF0543Hq-KMMv_IRvRPp8ZRj3LWOY-BZWGwbZXRD0Zpb2X5EBiLfR6IS0QJ8a-0JLNf4ildyiv7cHvR150SBmotX_rA.mov?ex=67b2dc23&is=67b18aa3&hm=2fac2c9c3b1cbb14706646e911b282751641700bdd0965371a43634e43b5e41a&

[heady rapids]

probably gonna be a limited time event

with torrent burning or some shit
who knows!!!!

[tame sluice]

they could just turn the servers off and call it an event for the same effect

ain't nobody gonna play that shit

[timber wigeon]

National guard on standby

[bitter anvil]

These ape gone crazy with the sport game

[sullen forge]

I mean it is a Boss Yam, I don’t even touch the game much and I don’t see issues with it outside of the second phase psionic attack just sometimes bypassing rolling even though you damn well timed it perfectly

That’s my only issue

[heady rapids]

you can never tell when fatshark are gonna drop this or that piece of content cause that shit can marinate for years before it gets pushed to live

remember the melta from closed beta? soon ™️

eviscerator axe also

[tame sluice]

oooh what about the long las that one's my favorite

[frosty herald]

Wait until i unlock lingering concealement and tactical ambush with shadow stab im nuking bosses

[heady rapids]

SOON :TM:

[sterile stone]

I mean in all fairness, all we got even remotely hinting at the melta was a insignia

[timber wigeon]

Next darktide update coming out after gta6💔

[sterile stone]

Same for a few other odd weapons.

[heady rapids]

A Long Las Rifle -
https://i.imgur.com/NY6vvW0.jpeg

A Melta Gun-
https://i.imgur.com/NCcgTS8.jpeg

Two Handed Power Sword (?)-
https://i.imgur.com/IAdlbTf.jpeg

Two Handed Maul (?)-
https://i.imgur.com/lgVYuNf.jpeg

Two Handed Chain Axe-
https://i.imgur.com/0pxaNLQ.jpeg

GO BACK TO HELLDIVERS YOU DUMBA... oh wait helldivers wasnt a thing back then

[sullen forge]

So thankful that game is not coming out in 2025 cause you know damn well it would’ve robbed Monster Hunter of GOTY 2025

[frosty herald]

gta 6?

[sullen forge]

Yes

[misty ravine]

Hello Kitty Island Adventure 2: Electric Cutealoo

[sullen forge]

Unless they’re all hands on deck doing it for late 2025 then expect to get robbed

[full nebula]

They should do monsterous specials but they only mutate into the twins, no weakened version either

[sterile stone]

I remember this being a meme when gamestop was still relevant

[frosty herald]

wilds will get a piss easy goty for 2025 considering its the most hyped game right now on steam

[sterile stone]

We live in strange times to see island adventure is now an actual game

[heady rapids]

bitches cant handle all the swag

[sterile stone]

My eyes burn

[full nebula]

They should do an event with monsterous specials, pox gas, and waves of specifically tox bombers

And bursters

[remote lark]

kid named 90% movespeed

[full nebula]

Speedrunning kinda defaults to stealth which is uhhh

[remote lark]

ppl who "solo" and speedrun are not really soloing and i refuse to recognize their "achievement" as soloing

[spare dome]

i solo every day. sometimes twice a day.

[hybrid jewel]

Stealth is not proof of a good player, just someone who abuses and exploits the game engine. The god ones use FotF for Zealot.

[copper hawk]

They should add a barnacle like enemy 2 stop ppl from speedrunning

[heady rapids]

rememvr when in vermintide 2 walls would appear when a boss spawned

[hidden grove]

most viable build with enough damage and utility to truly solo clear map is probably FGS psykers

[lime rover]

Otter posting

[frosty herald]

Boss walls

[lime rover]

Fuck that's a ferret

[fiery ingot]

thats clearly a dog

[lime rover]

I'm so fucking numb in terms of brain power today I'm so sorry

[frosty herald]

Fucked up looking lizard ngl

[lime rover]

Nah that's clearly a really weird looking burrito

[sterile stone]

Was gonna say a stealth veteran with infinite kraks seems nice

[remote lark]

zealot is safer

[hidden grove]

it would seem so on paper, but that sword, FGS, is truly busted

can a zealot engage 10 ragers in melee and take 0 hits, FGS can

[plush estuary]

yes

[hidden grove]

with what weapon?

[plush estuary]

any weapon

[lime rover]

Also can we just appreciate how it feels to play with the relic blade

[copper hawk]

Kid named hs 9 w dblow and hter

[plush estuary]

use any of the 3 abilities

[heady rapids]

kid named dodge key

[lime rover]

Kid named dreg rager

[copper hawk]

But i still agree

Fgs is busted; press two buttons and 10 ragers wiped

[sterile stone]

How does someone struggle against ragers tho

[lime rover]

The ones who forget suppression, blocking, and dodging exist

[hidden grove]

not just the range of the sword, special fired on no charge aoe stuns entire rager groups, and then you just hack them one by one

[plush estuary]

so does Hsword

[sterile stone]

So a player with no game knowledge?

[hidden grove]

At range on your entire front? come on

[plush estuary]

Kills hordes of ragers

[remote lark]

..... yes? zealot is the best class in the game right now, second only to psyker in terms of pure killing power

[lime rover]

I mean, not really I'm a seasoned player and I tend to forget blocking exist because I kill everything before it even gets a chance to attack

[remote lark]

i'm convinced you don't even play zealot, i've seen the comments you've made before lol

[modern lintel]

vet stays up there in terms of ability to be comically durable

[hidden grove]

I do play psyker the most, but I've played enough zealots and seen enough

[remote lark]

clearly not

[plush estuary]

clearly not, lol

[frosty herald]

Btw the next sm2 update will remove some weapon restrictions from classes so hopefully volkite can be on all of them and plasma pistol on assault

[signal spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1338246971433160747/2mt1wzcmzyge1.gif

[remote lark]

judging a class based on how stupid pubs play is very comical

[heady rapids]

THINK AGAIN

[frosty herald]

Carbine on assault would fuck hard

[hidden grove]

true, could be just pubs bad, so show me then, melee a rager group without taking a single hit in psych

[remote lark]

ok

[hidden grove]

that would be interesting

[lime rover]

I'm outside of the topic

[sterile stone]

[modern lintel]

5 ragers in 2 swings on vet which doesnt use h sword aswell as zeal imo

[lime rover]

But dreg ragers are extremely easy to kill, you just stun, hit hit hit and kaputt

[frosty herald]

Doesnt hamdol's psykarium challenge have a bunch of ragers in it?

[atomic fjord]

I hate you Jeff

[sterile stone]

I don't wanna be an ass right, but how do you forget blockign exists when using melee is most of the time the primary way of fighting in the game?

[lime rover]

?

[remote lark]

how many ragers

[lime rover]

Because most things die in one hit and I don't need to block often?

[heady rapids]

https://youtu.be/8iV11p-BU2k

[frosty herald]

Eggfever mentioned

[remote lark]

imagine this on psyker

[tame sluice]

because blocking is actively harmful more often than not

[hidden grove]

come on, that's a dude running away on dagger 😂

[sterile stone]

What difficulty do you play on out of curiosity

[tame sluice]

a lot of the time if you're playing correctly blocking something means you gt guardbroken and stunned

[remote lark]

and you could never do that

[tame sluice]

Since you should be using your stamina on push attacks

[hidden grove]

do what, running away on daggar?

[sterile stone]

Psyker and ogryn I can literally stand infront of captains and daemonhosts and just hold block the entire time.

[lime rover]

I tend to lean tewords helping new players but I play on malice difficulty if im not helping

[hidden grove]

any class can do that

[remote lark]

go do that trial then. :)

[plush estuary]

lmao

[lime rover]

I don't understand what's happening xD

[plush estuary]

I saw Hamdolson do the unspeakagble challenge live, no one here can do it

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-gif-18261896

[tame sluice]

and then the random zealots in my game losing 1v1s to scab bruisers

[sterile stone]

You know what, never mind. Peace and love to you my friend.

[lime rover]

I don't understand what the issue is

I'm good in combat, I just tend to dodge over blocking

[hidden grove]

was talking about able to engage and kill a group of ragers directly, in melee, without taking a single hit, not sure why it turned into a convo about surviving horde

[lime rover]

Oh killing a rager horde is easy without taking a hit

You just need to stun them and spam heavy attacks

[remote lark]

i asked you how many ragers you want me to no-hit

[modern lintel]

start taking damnation for a spin come back with your results

[lime rover]

I'm not that good-

[sterile stone]

Nah not even, high shock damnation

[hidden grove]

just do the default rager group spawn in the creature spawner

[remote lark]

kay

[modern lintel]

thats the issue i dont mean to sound rude but 90% of the talks in this chat use auric damnation as a benchmark when taking things into consideration

[lime rover]

Please don't bully me I'm not claiming to be a impossibly good player

[remote lark]

blocking is useful to prevent chip damage or if you get cornered

[lime rover]

I just hang around my comfort zone

[remote lark]

what melee
or do you not care

[hidden grove]

any you want so long as it's a zealot

[sterile stone]

This right here, hitting a quick 180 and blocking a pox walker that was about to hit me has saved my ass so many times.

[remote lark]

ok ill use shock maul
zealots worst weapon

[heady rapids]

block is omnidirectional 🤓

[frosty herald]

All playtesters play on malice😌

[modern lintel]

no problem with that im not going to yuck your yum or some shit but giving advice when malice is your standard is liable to get one of the unsavory members of this chat to jump down your throat

[sterile stone]

I can't take any chances.

[hard nexus]

which challenge

[lime rover]

Advice?

[sterile stone]

That pox walker hit me for like 40 of my hp when my toughness is gone, I'm folding like a dried up churro

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ping-gif-15323150284858550332

[lime rover]

I never gave any advice ;-;

[plush estuary]

this was ham with egg streaming it

[modern lintel]

saying blocks arent useful

[plush estuary]

but ham did another run in our server

[sterile stone]

You NA?

[lime rover]

NA?

[modern lintel]

north america

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-gif-18261896

[frosty herald]

North africa

[lime rover]

I'm european

[sterile stone]

Oh, well Yams is here. I'm sure he could run a few Auric High Shocks to get you accustomed to what it's like.

[frosty herald]

Im busy with sm2 atm

[lime rover]

I wouldn't like that

[modern lintel]

yam all of sudden to high and mighty the humanity

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-meme-anger-mad-thragg-gif-6417141235193562233

[lime rover]

I never claimed I was good I just said I don't block often

I dont know how this spiraled into an argument 😭

[modern lintel]

[hard nexus]

i see

[plush estuary]

I think its 1 of every boss and then 5 of each special with a few hordes

[lime rover]

I said that because i was afraid people would think I just don't know how to fight at all

[sterile stone]

I'm not trying to argue, I just figured you'd see what it's like to see how the game changes up at higher difficulties.

[frosty herald]

Relic blade activation blocking is extremely good if your running from a few trashmobs

[lime rover]

In other words it was a repercussional additive to my point to not trip over myself

[sterile stone]

Like you can get away with ALOT in malice

[remote lark]

ok done

[frosty herald]

Running laps around malice lmao

[hard nexus]

eh i’m with him, blocking is stupid except in a couple of very specific circumstances

[lime rover]

I mean yeah, but I can play on much higher difficulties I just don't wanna thats all

[modern lintel]

youre on the brain explosion list now

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jHXPM2Rf8ew1hV6Ed?invite=cr-MSw2NlcsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA
done using zealots literal worst or maybe second worst weapon @hidden grove

same thing psyker can do with fgs, arguably their best weapon

[frosty herald]

Darktide is dominated by dodging blocking is usually a way to get killed if your guardbroken

[lime rover]

I only block when I can't dodge, if I can dodge I will dodge and strike back

[hard nexus]

yarp

[lime rover]

Also dodging is good when you wanna obliterate a horde

[hidden grove]

nice, though I probably should have said no ability, since you can also stealth them all with no hit as well

[lime rover]

You just spam dodge in circles around the horde and swing your sword at stuff

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[plush estuary]

lol

[hidden grove]

FGS, you can do it naked

[remote lark]

i didn't use stealth are you blind

[plush estuary]

I can do it with my mind

[heady rapids]

@remote lark no talents no curios white weapons

[lime rover]

You would use abilities in a mission scenario aswell

[remote lark]

i'm convinced vect doesn't play zealot or he's just incompetent

[plush estuary]

or?

[remote lark]

the first thing i ever remember him saying is "who needs zealot it's bad" or something like that

about the best class in the game

completely stupid

again, i made that clip with zealots -worst- weapon

[sly elm]

Hey I’m new to zealot and I was wondering what’s a good build to use if anyone could help

[hidden grove]

huh? maybe I said that about charge zealots in h40 earlier

[heady rapids]

can we get the dumb png with lines

[clever swan]

cant we all just get al- nah kill each other

[plush estuary]

What are you looking for, talents? Weapons? Curios?

[sly elm]

Everything

[sterile stone]

Do you use numeric ui?

[plush estuary]

Check pins for a Relic Blade build, if thats not for you I can share any build with the weapon you want to use

[lime rover]

Zealot charge ability is literally one of the best abilities to get out of a shit situation

[lime rover]

I don't know which UI I use

[frosty herald]

Its a bad build🗣️

[hard nexus]

or he’s just master bating

[sterile stone]

Don't worry about it then.

[remote lark]

ok buddy i did it with no abilities

[lime rover]

I'm sorry I haven't played in like days

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jHXXxsxuFp3Mqvtmq?invite=cr-MSxWc2osMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

[hard nexus]

this is giving me flashbacks to that one girl that called dorn a good boy

[plush estuary]

Terraria reference, master bait

[hidden grove]

unless you can something like a ogyrn pickaxe to mass cleave and stun you aren't charging your way out of a H40 horde

[sterile stone]

You're kosher, nothing to stress about

[heady rapids]

now do it with a 300ms input delay to simulate playing OCE servers

[clever swan]

what's nice about the psykhanium is that it has 0 ping

[remote lark]

[remote lark]

yes because charge has anything to do with cleave values

[hidden grove]

okay that's good, that sword's got the same reach as FGS, very interesting

[remote lark]

maybe we know what we're talking about idk

[hard nexus]

disdain sucks on everything except thunder hammer (if you aren’t taking sustained assault)

[remote lark]

it hits horde bps on relic ackchually

[hard nexus]

it actually does because perfect strike exists

[remote lark]

actually how about i just kill you with a rock

[hard nexus]

on every other swing

if u wanted more damage i’d just say take desperation im ngl

[sterile stone]

Rust gameplay

[lime rover]

Errrmm aktually the zealot charge isn't the same as an ogryn charge, the zealot charge makes all your attacks critical during and a couple of seconds after the charge which means you could theoretically free yourself easily from a horde

[remote lark]

desperation is great until u run out of stamina and a random chaff hit guard breaks you

[frosty herald]

All of my relic blade knowledge is of the mk2

[hidden grove]

not talking about the charge, talking about weapons

[remote lark]

thats why you're bad

[stone fern]

are there any good zealot streamers that are active?

[misty ravine]

Take the Mk10 pill

[hard nexus]

it’s one attack that’s a crit with rending and a damage boost, it’s a couple of seconds of attack speed though

[frosty herald]

Mk2 is more fun

[ornate bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dvnD7cmfg0

Wouldn't Vegetas voice be great for Judgement Zealot

[remote lark]

"you aren't charging your way out of a h40 horde"
yeah cause i'm killing it lol
relic ha sbetter clear than fgs

[hard nexus]

better question is why r you blocking

[sterile stone]

I'd honestly be surprised anyone streams darktide outside of Fuu

[remote lark]

how are you gonna proc desperation without pa

[lime rover]

Oh yeah shit I'm sorry I got that wrong, whenever i use it, it does feel like I'm hitting only critical hits since I kill specialists very fast

[hard nexus]

because u have 5 seconds of desperation when u run out of stam

[stone fern]

telo isnt even streaming anymore its so over...

[sterile stone]

Who?

[stone fern]

telopots

[sterile stone]

Who??

[jovial cosmos]

clad start streaming dt

[misty ravine]

Mk10 with Marty and IOD is peak

[hidden grove]

with no additional cc back up? somebody did 40 with 4 ogryns, where's the 4 charge zealots

[stone fern]

person dorn grubs for

[jovial cosmos]

become the biggest dt streamer

[sterile stone]

Ohhh

[fiery ingot]

the guy who spams vacuum capsule and wears no pants

[remote lark]

wait til this guy hears about the havoc 40 zealot duo

[stone fern]

no im not good enough

[hidden grove]

vid, nao

[jovial cosmos]

doesnt matter, you'll still become the biggest streamer

[lime rover]

@hidden grove are you trolling?

[sterile stone]

Become a darktide vtuber, it's a untapped market.

[stone fern]

every second game i play now ends with me failing to clutch

[lime rover]

I will become a darktide vtuber

[hidden grove]

is asking possibly very interesting vid trolling

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-1839778403502981320

[remote lark]

it got posted in here ages ago idk ill try to find it

[lime rover]

Not that, every word that comes out of your mouth sounds like rage bait

[stone fern]

become the first ever signals vtuber

[hidden grove]

really, then consider yourself trolled

[remote lark]

Listen up, rejects, because if you're not running a knife build in Darktide, you're just dead weight. I’m talking about a razor-sharp meta that cuts through the heretical masses faster than a Psyker's brain aneurysm on the final surge. You think your heavy bolter’s doing work? Pfft. My knife is a blur of righteous fury, turning Traitor Guardsmen into meat confetti while you're still winding up for that first swing with your Maul. I’m practically in a different game at this point.

Why the knife?

First off, you cleave through hordes like you’re on a diet of pure hatred and unholy caffeine. I’m not walking; I’m sprinting through the chaos, darting between foes like a heretic’s worst nightmare.
Oh, and let’s talk about stamina regen. While you’re sucking air with your clunky chainsword, I’m back at full stamina, dashing between targets, cutting throats like it’s a sport. I’m Michael Myers out here, but faster, with more style, and somehow less caring about your life expectancy.
What else?

The speed is insane, because why stop when you can become a goddamn blur?
Increased crit chance, because every stab is like a coin flip between “oh no” and “OH YES."
And don’t even @ me if you’re not running the bonus sprint speed talent. If you're not constantly in motion, you’re basically a walking bullet magnet and, newsflash, the Emperor doesn’t bless static targets.
But what about Crushers and mutants?

Do I look worried about Crushers? I’ve already stabbed them 8 times by the time they even think about winding up for that overhead smash. Oh, and for Mutants? They might charge, but I'm a knife-wielding Ferrari. By the time they hit, I’m already behind them, carving out a nice little spot for my trophies. Plus, you got the team for that. Play your role, reject!

So, if you’re still walking around lugging a heavy weapon thinking you’re a big deal, just know that my knife and I are already done with the mission while you’re still busy looking for ammo. Remember, the heretics fear the blade, but they fear the speed demon with the blade even more.

Get good, or stay tf out of my aurics

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

Wait

[misty ravine]

It's clearly some kind of copy noodle

[ornate bone]

A Darktuber

[remote lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1339130349359468574/image.png?ex=67b2dfd3&is=67b18e53&hm=769109819706dc7812b34e6d2a914ed93941bc11deab749eacd3f8049a93cac7&

[heady rapids]

actually cant tell if that's a meme

[hard nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P__4L3Xc2qY

this isnt the duo but its 4 chastise zealots

[clever swan]

teleports behind you

[remote lark]

🔪 ◀️ ❗

[sterile stone]

Wait wait wait wait, is this a copy pasta from the guy on the steam forums freaking out because he's like havoc rank 40 and he's got his panties all tied in a twist cause other hav 40s aren't inviting him to their squad?

[remote lark]

no its a copypasta i made

[sterile stone]

Oh, lame

[heady rapids]

this would get so many updtoots...........

[remote lark]

someone kept trying to tell me knife was bad so i posted that under all of his messages until i got warned

[misty ravine]

Meleeker will get this as a talent before Ogryn gets a proper tree rework
Screencap this

[drowsy steppe]

all the vtubers are playing other games

[jovial cosmos]

wait post it on the steam forums on a alt acc and see it people in gen chat take the bait

infinite content

[sterile stone]

I do wonder, what is THE vtuber game outside of vrchat

[hard nexus]

honestly an alt tree with a teleport ability on psyker would be really cool

[frosty herald]

Telefrag psyker

[clever swan]

minecraft

[drowsy steppe]

JRPGs, gachas

[remote lark]

do u like my vtuber model
I used to do that stuff

[sterile stone]

I'm logging off discord, I've seen enough.

[lime rover]

Its cute, I love it

[remote lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048761167025283133/1223310889026060389/aL73xFu_kopia.gif

[jovial cosmos]

no stream on tue/thu zzzzzzzz

[clever swan]

+1 for it not being a furry avatar

[remote lark]

about that..

[clever swan]

well, at least not fully furry or something

[drowsy steppe]

man's seen an anime character and decides to log off

[remote lark]

that's my old model...

[clever swan]

animorph moment

[sterile stone]

I've had enough of my peripherals being assaulted for a week I tells yah.

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-freedom-unite-mhfu-blangonga-capcom-gif-16140384188753691124

[lime rover]

[heady rapids]

uh oh! 10 minutes slowmode

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-supprise-helldivers-helldivers-2-that's-nice-nice-gif-16523774879035659317

[visual stream]

The tree pattern haunts

[sterile stone]

@frosty herald Real talk though, you should try deadzone

Es free

[signal spoke]

Cant have shit in zealot chat for 10 mins everytime

[heady rapids]

@frosty herald did you know that power fist now has 20m attack reach

[frosty herald]

I know lmao

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669129318806454291/1340606508483739710/2025.01.021874635670796591126GgQLE0xa0AEWird-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[lime rover]

Glorp

[frosty herald]

Whats deadzone?

[sterile stone]

Risk of Rain but as a fps

[heady rapids]

deadz n uts

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/scorsese-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-9523375912274476782

[remote lark]

is anybody here havoc 30-ish
someone wants me to take them into h30 but im h40

[signal spoke]

Now that is wholesome, love the colour pallette of the avi

[heady rapids]

just forfeit the assignemtn 10 times

[remote lark]

[sterile stone]

I forgot, mans don't like playing games where he gotta carry his own weight.

[frosty herald]

Listen here you fucker

[sterile stone]

Actual baked bean gameplay

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-game-mercenaries-stalker-game-stalker-gif-11586070399648579192

[sterile stone]

Nah you know what, when stalker 2 pvp releases, I wanna see you out in the zone.

[signal spoke]

I thought that Stalker 2 pvp was already out with full release

[sterile stone]

Unfortunately no

[signal spoke]

Was it delayed or promised as post launch content?

[sterile stone]

Pretty sure since like 2013 it was always gonna be post launch.

Like they're still trying to fix the single player story for as jank as that is.

A life still isn't working as properly as it should either.

[remote lark]

+2 for helping a new player try havoc
any takers

[spare dome]

how high you goin

[frosty herald]

Alot of things need to be done for stalker 2😌

[spare dome]

yea like the game

[remote lark]

preferably trying to find a party thats 20-30
otherwise we'll be starting at their h16

[frosty herald]

Arguably one of the most bugged out gsmes to release in 2024

[spare dome]

ive got a 24 for mine iirc

[remote lark]

i would appreciate
they wanna try it and get boosted up just enough so that they dont have to farm up through the heresy missions xd

[spare dome]

lemme sees

25

[remote lark]

join lets do it

[spare dome]

pox gas, aw hell

sendin a request

[remote lark]

[sterile stone]

That's a reach

There's def alot worse shit that's released last year.

What pissed me off about the game was being gas lit by Scar into thinking he wasn't batshit insane....

[signal spoke]

Alright

[sterile stone]

Helldivers 2 on that list

Hwat

[clever swan]

ai created list smh

[signal spoke]

It got most of the right picks

Borderlands the movie, one of the worst games

[sterile stone]

Skull and Bones, I need to check them steam numbers

[clever swan]

wouldn't be surprised if it was lower than darktide lol

[heady rapids]

darktide had 100k+ on release

[sterile stone]

That is fucking rough brh

[signal spoke]

For sure must be lol

[clever swan]

oh God 122 is abysmal

[signal spoke]

Sea of thieves clears the best modern pirate game lol

[clever swan]

total failure of a game. ubisoft dissolve!!

[heady rapids]

pretty low bar not gonna lie

[signal spoke]

Just steam alone now imagine how little must be for consoles lmao
Probably just like 200 people each console

[sterile stone]

I know if I was a investor at Goffysoft I'd be punching a wall at the constant dumpster fires they been releasing.

[heady rapids]

instructions unclear, more devs laid off

[signal spoke]

Is it on gamepass? I cant remember

[sterile stone]

[signal spoke]

[clever swan]

doesn't seem like it

[signal spoke]

I honestly forgot about Foamstars lmao

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/muta-laugh-gif-18813278

[signal spoke]

The splatoon "killer"

Doesnt help the fact they clearly used AI generated images for music album covers and shit

[sterile stone]

You can fit so many Skull and Bones in this bad boy

[signal spoke]

I think a new season is coming soon too for SoT

[lime rover]

So kewt

[clever swan]

I wish there was a realistic pirate game. mostly for the realistic boat destruction and sinking and combat. holes in a boat letting realistic water in, stuff like that. but I don't think tech is fully ready yet

[modern lintel]

my friend bought it for me on launch to play w him because he fell for the hype and after we beat the skeleton the game called a story at the start he finally realized it was a shit game

[heady rapids]

imagine sot's online if it was actually fun and didnt weigh 150gigs

[signal spoke]

What a weird looking rat

[sterile stone]

Buddy got robbed twice

[signal spoke]

SoT on release was truly something

[heady rapids]

the only ones we're getting are indie and stop development after a couple months of them being out

[lime rover]

Theres worse games

[sterile stone]

Like Atlas....

[lime rover]

Like that game that ubisoft unreleased within weeks

Was it ubisoft?

[ornate bone]

Assassin's Creed 5

[sterile stone]

Ubi has relased so much trash in recent years you'd have to be specific.

It' a shame they're killing off Xdefiant

[lime rover]

No no, concord

[signal spoke]

thats from Sony lol

[lime rover]

That was the biggest flop in 2024

[sterile stone]

Game died in like 3 days after launch

[lime rover]

I know, I forgot the name of the publisher

[sterile stone]

Didn't Concord have a insane budget aswell?

[signal spoke]

Yes over 400M$

[clever swan]

ac shadows would've been another cursed 2024 game, guess it's good they delayed it.

[heady rapids]

they thought it was gonna be the next overwatch
even made a secret level episode for it

[signal spoke]

200M$ on the production alone and 200M$ more from Sony financial support

[sterile stone]

$400M and the game was in development since Overwatch 1.

[modern lintel]

fr i wasnt gonna buy it and told him he prob shouldnt but he was a sucker thinking it was gonna be like black flag but multiplayer

[heady rapids]

then everyone said well you know there's not really a market for hero shooters rn!!!

then marvel rivals comes out

[clever swan]

unknown 9 is another AAA gigaflop

[modern lintel]

concord has to be the biggest game blunder ever i think

[heady rapids]

what about cyberpunk

[modern lintel]

cyberpunks a great game with a rocky launch

[sterile stone]

Waiting on Long Dark 2

[heady rapids]

rocky is a major understatement

[sterile stone]

Game saved by an anime

[ornate bone]

CDPR selling a game that doesn't even run on the console

[modern lintel]

i played it on last gen console arguably the worst platform to have played it on had had maybe 3 crashes the entire time and one side quest get bugged out

[heady rapids]

took them two years to make the main quests trigger without having to jump hoops

[stone fern]

cyberpunk is a great game but its league away from what they promised at the start

[ornate bone]

My biggest miff with Cyberpunk, as well as Veilguard, is not having NG+

[modern lintel]

no new gameplus is always a bummer in anygame

[stone fern]

just start a new game and give yourself 900000 eurodollars and all the weapons

[ornate bone]

Eepy method

[heady rapids]

didnt witcher 3 also not have ng+?

[placid fiber]

Well... I just found out... My mother in law who has been on hospice was put on morphine(she has stage 4 cancer, and it has spread quite a lot)... that is usually a really bad sign... 😦

[stone fern]

no it got it as a dlc

[clever swan]

surely there's a mod for new game plus for cp

[ornate bone]

I like the part of the game where I reach obscene levels of power and replay it on the highest difficulty

[heady rapids]

cdpr never learns

[sterile stone]

Shame we aren't gonna get that cyberpunk multiplayer game

[stone fern]

poland appears to be located in sweden i see

[ornate bone]

I rarely like leveling up because it's often locking me from using cool shit

[heady rapids]

fucking lmao

[hidden grove]

well fuck me, I'm playing martyr my next 40 run

[modern lintel]

they are working on a new game still wouldnt have hope up

[heady rapids]

new game
looks inside
unreal engine 5

[sterile stone]

Next game is a witcher game with Ciri, we ain't getting another cyberpunk installment for atleast another 4-5 years post launch of that game.

[ornate bone]

wife game

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[clever swan]

literally mpreg

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-godzilla-nebsgoodtakes-henry-cavill-willem-dafoe-gif-17352851042948506942

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/scorsese-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-9523375912274476782

The most boring engine ever

[modern lintel]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0hta2Lb2zKJ7kEnAEZEE3G?si=BQ9_HKruSAyaOZXIdYwRow

[ornate bone]

what r the best blessings for the ds on havoc for zealot?

I remember looking at Rohm's villages in Remnant, and Conan Exiles' player housing, and going: man, this sure looks very similar

[misty ravine]

https://youtu.be/UqIqSi3iy8Y?si=jLX8LyhxmaPb5xu1

[frosty herald]

my condolances

[spare dome]

that wasnt so bad

[remote lark]

sea of thieves

[spare dome]

praise wall

[placid fiber]

Thank you. It is just now hitting me just how fast she's fading...

[remote lark]

tox gas and bombers is so annoying

we had 2 books and a shout and it was still annoying

90% of my time that game was spent just clicking on crusher heads
i dont think i even got to use my flamer that much

[spare dome]

did both of you have a flamer? there was a lot of flamin'

[remote lark]

yeah i just focused on elites cause that guy was ammo vacuuming

[spare dome]

and yeah three sources of gold toughness, itll do what it do

you know what gold toughness cant save you from?? (:

[remote lark]

it worked out though, he did horde clear and i backed him up and kept crushers off him

[remote lark]

popping your own head in the first area?

[spare dome]

hey man i was just maximizing medicae use

there's a different tempo for both my voidblast builds, my brain hates that

[raven epoch]

Hey havent used zealot in a good bit since the armory overhaul
I run fury for the most part whats some good weapon options atm

[opaque island]

so when are we getting the next big content patch?

[raven epoch]

Relic blade seems kinda cool but I hard some wacky things about the hammer

[full nebula]

@opaque island Probably March/April, end of February extremely optimistically

[hybrid jewel]

Spend time with her btw, or you'll regret it. Trust me, I lost both my grams and aunt in the same year, one from total failure from age and the other from stage 4 colorectal cancer. Once they go, you have no chance ever again.

[remote lark]

relic blade is amazing with piety, check pins for my post on it

[raven epoch]

aight

[remote lark]

probably pietys best weapon right now

[misty nova]

💀

[remote lark]

after that knife and ds are good with it but still prefer IJ

anything that attacks fast and has a finesse modifier can take piety
i wouldn't reccomend it on anything that hits slowly

[zealous mesa]

someone explain to me why every person i see using the relic blades only spams the light chain

[clever swan]

not really realistic at all

[spare dome]

zealot brain rot

[remote lark]

because it's the best way to use the weapon if you're taking mkX with piety

relic blade lights when powered and even without powered if you have sufficient damage have absolutely insane cleave and damage
cranial + rampage and flak + elites let you oneshot crushers and mulch hordes
while taking IJ and using the MK2's heavy rotation does have similar (although slightly worse) clear, the MK2 heavy loop doesn't let you take piety which means you can't take stalwart, enduring, invoc, or scourge anywehre nearly as effectively due to the lack of crit blessings on the weapon

charged light roughly equals uncharged heavy if you're interested in numbers
i made a ton of spreadsheets on the weapon when it came out

piety build is also havoc viable assuming you don't need to take beacon/book, and taking book is only a slight modification

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/black-ops-woods-cod-gif-17392574626699745990

[remote lark]

#zealot-class message

[remote lark]

woosh

[clever swan]

[remote lark]

i dropped another truth nuke on reddit
can't wait to watch them writhe

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1iqznp3/relic_blade_for_dummies/

[raven epoch]

hey is there a blessing guide anywhere

[fleet zealot]

stay out of havoc smh

only dueling sword 4 or else i'll block you.

[remote lark]

better to just ask individually for each weapon in this channel until i finish my guide

[zealous mesa]

It drives me crazy watching people do vanguard light vanguard light strikdedown light over and over into horde

[raven epoch]

heavy sword n flamer then

[remote lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/720212521612607509/1266110730361507931/deepfry.gif

[zealous mesa]

why not light light heavy

[remote lark]

they must be using the mk2 or something
mkx light spam is horizontal sweep horizontal sweep poke

[ornate bone]

I ain't gon think of no bitch ass combos in the middle of the shitter

[zealous mesa]

vanguard vanguard strikedown is sweep sweep poke

[remote lark]

yes and thats the correct way to use the weapon, believe it or not

[ornate bone]

If it's more complicated than light > heavy, I'm out

[zealous mesa]

why did they make a weapon with such involved combos if the most efficient thing to do is just spam lights

[carmine falcon]

u dont have to think
it becomes muscle memory
i do heavy heavy light to nuke single targets
light light heavy heavy for hordes
pa, heavy light for funnies

[remote lark]

thanks to how utterly broken the charge stated of the weapon is, those vanguard lights deal the same damage as the uncharged heavies
and since lights are, well, faster, it offers practically identical horde clear to the heavy sweeping rotation

[fleet zealot]

Headtaker deathblow (not chained deathblow)

overpressure blaze away, rending flames blaze away, or because i can't stop you, blaze away everlasting with piety

[remote lark]

also, using lights means you can stack scourge which means you can much more effectively take Piety

that in turn means you can take Enduring and Invoc, get more out of Duelist, and take Stalwart for crazy defenses.

[carmine falcon]

fun factor
relic is more fun to use than most weapons if u play around with it

[zealous mesa]

nobody is playing around with it thats why i was asking why i only see people sling lights in every scenario

[remote lark]

it has some complicated combos and setups but random pubbers aren't going to be good enough to do them
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1iqznp3/relic_blade_for_dummies/

(Single target combo can be force-started with PA instead of H1)

Burst Damage: Loop [Dodge slide -> Thrust -> Throwing Knife/Block -> Horizontal dodge slide -> Thrust]

[carmine falcon]

i play around with it
other people have rashad brainrot

[stone fern]

erm aktually relic doesnt have thrust

[remote lark]

you know what man

[raven epoch]

also unrelated a bit but is there a progression build guide anywhere?

[stone fern]

should have been done 3 months ago

[remote lark]

progression? just take whatever it gives you until you hit like level 25 or 30 and have saved up enough to max out + build a proper weapon

[raven epoch]

no for talents

[remote lark]

what u use while doing malice and heresy won't matter lol
can do that shit with a grey relic blade

i should have put book as orange but i made reddit have an absolute seizure by saying it was bad so im keeping it that way

[stone fern]

maybe anoint and purge as green too tbh

[zealous mesa]

the only thing bad about it is making random people think the entire kit is unusable

[remote lark]

green implies its mandatory
purg is only taken if you have 2 points to spare and annoint is only required on flamer builds

[zealous mesa]

like a solid third of the entire tree is covered in big red x's

[remote lark]

just because you can clear a mission with it doesn't mean its "usable"
i can take 0 talents and use grey weapons and clear a mission, that doesn't mean i'll reccomend that to new players

[stone fern]

my friend u have green labled as "good option"

[remote lark]

if you have to look at a build guide to build yoru talent tree, you're most likely a new player
that means you're looking for whats good, not "will this 100% kill me and grief my team but can i take it anyway"

ur looking for meta options to learn and branch off of on your own

therefore, i focused on making the graphic objectively correct instead of working about tiny nuances like "yeah you can path down through loner to save a point"

the stuff i have marked in red, with the exception of book and shroudfield (they're usable, fotf is just broken in comparison), is unusable garbage that will grief your build

[zealous mesa]

this ogryn cosmetic rotation goes insanely hard

wrong channel

[remote lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048761167025283133/1223310889026060389/aL73xFu_kopia.gif

[hybrid jewel]

Excuse me, more crits for teammates in H40 is hilarious for everyone but yourself.

[carmine falcon]

annoint reads like free dmg
why only take it for flamer

[remote lark]

it applies to ranged attacks only first of all, and it also only applies to attacks within 15m of yourself
therefore it's useless for weapons that are generally taken to snipe specialists like revolver/boltgun

also, it doesn't hit any breakpoints for weapons that magdump up close like the bolter
seriously, you won't kill any more crushers or maulers with or without it. i tried very hard to find a blessing/perk setup that would, but i couldn't.

however, annoint applies globally to your damage while you're holding your ranged weapon.
That means it applies to your flamer burn stacks (and flame nades).

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[remote lark]

tldr:
you won't shoot any less bullets while using annoint with pretty much any ranged weapon i can think of cause most oneshot enemies anyway

[carmine falcon]

ok DATA NERRRDDD ill trust you
What should i replace it with

i kinda just had cause it sounds good on paper but never tested it anything

[fleet zealot]

ferret pog

[sinful oar]

why does everyone hate the flamer

[carmine falcon]

wdym its one of the most used weapons

[remote lark]

said nobody ever

[hybrid jewel]

I just want a handflamer.

[remote lark]

me when i have to choose between damage for myself or damage for my inbred teammates:

[hybrid jewel]

H40 and it's usually stacked where I just be mascot with symbol.

[remote lark]

h40
did i stutter

i can smell my teammates now.. they're here..

[grizzled aspen]

@remote lark are you gaming? :3

[fleet zealot]

who?

[remote lark]

i knew it

[fleet zealot]

the only real downside to flamer is gating you into throwing knives so you aren't useless vs bombers and snipers

[grizzled aspen]

Well are you?

[remote lark]

downside

tk are meta anyway cause it lets you take flamer/bolter without ruining your ability to clear specialists

[hybrid jewel]

Lul. I suppose it depends on if you are running with a stack or pugs.

[spare dome]

anoint is good til 12.5m and then falls off til 30m where it finally does nothing. anoint + IJ is 40% extra damage on your gun. both together or separately can help net breakpoints on a couple of guns like bistol but honestly neither do anything that blessings or perks couldn't perhaps already do (like puncture)

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii is a smelly butthead and is mean to me.

[fleet zealot]

yea and tknives are meta and in hav40 premades you don't even need throwing knives if your team comp covers far range

[spare dome]

really anoint is good, not amazing, and what we really like is access to purge the unclean which together can make for some funnies

[remote lark]

in havoc i dont take tk with flamer i just trust my teamamtes to kill specialists

[spare dome]

it used to be a lot juicier when fotf also did rending for guns