zealot-class

[hard nexus]

but it should be a toughness on kill, not non melee kill

[spare dome]

and being all non melee means fire nades would be like wowee

[hard nexus]

fire nades stink

[spare dome]

but wowee

[plush estuary]

thats basically out for blood with shredders

[spare dome]

yea. also flamer would be even better

[hard nexus]

ainz appearing for his weekly single message

[plush estuary]

hi

[spare dome]

all those dot kills fill your toughness

[plush estuary]

I read things when I am bored

just waiting for the cows to breed rn

[hard nexus]

idk i think that all other zealot toughness gen talents need to get buffed and the tree reorganized so we can take whatever grenade without tax

[grizzled aspen]

Toughness gen talents should be at most the 2nd point down on any given path.

[spare dome]

we do need more criss crossing

[merry flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176314815120146472/1339722672925577347/tumblr_e750ac760f83b5988e2486f2158caf62_ea86bf01_500.gif

https://tenor.com/view/the-skeleton-appears-skeleton-lobster-speech-bubble-skeleton-appears-gif-24818768

[pliant otter]

Never tried dueling sword on Zealot before because of the fashion of that weapon, it looks silly, give it a try and is disgusting strong, why this toothpick is killing crushers this easy while keeping good mobility

[lunar fable]

lober

[misty ravine]

Someone at Fatshark fell for the Dex Build meme

[midnight ermine]

Am i throwing using CoSF? Aka book ig

[delicate shadow]

no, it is not throwing at all

[midnight ermine]

The super long CD made me have doubts

[plush estuary]

You have been doubted incan

How do you plead

[midnight ermine]

Quick question: i've been taking shield of contempt because it thought it works with toughness DR. Does it give toughness DR?

[midnight ermine]

Does the buff proc when i take toughness dmg

[spare dome]

shield of contempt is unfortunately bad for a bunch of technical reasons. it only procs off health damage

the issue is that it procs on any health damage on anybody, anywhere, from any condition, including corruption damage

so its basically a dead node if you're picking up Grimoires and on blight modifier havocs

[delicate shadow]

you can drop the cooldown significantly with either of the CDR talents

(the one near martyrdom does not count as a CDR node, it is bait)

[spare dome]

me losing 100% of my health to use my ult one more time

[delicate shadow]

you can do some funny buggy interactions with it while chorus is active

but it's a meme

and idk if it's been patched

[midnight ermine]

So don't take martyr's purpose?

[delicate shadow]

no never take it unless you feel like trolling yourself

[midnight ermine]

Man if only they buffed it

[delicate shadow]

it needs a rework to be at all functional, hopefully zealot's time will come

[spare dome]

its just touchy since flat health isnt an option but percentage also kinda sucks

[midnight ermine]

Always having to go so far out of my way to make my ability usableeee

[spare dome]

but imo it should be a value where 24% of your hp can be lost and give you one full ult refresh

so that UD + HR means you can still use it

[royal vortex]

actually it should be handled in the most boring way possible and have missing wounds give x% cooldown reduction

[spare dome]

ugh

[midnight ermine]

They would both work

[spare dome]

but it'd be so boring!

[midnight ermine]

How exactly does the calculation even work for it

[royal vortex]

i see a lot of people who want to basically standardize every cooldown talent to use the same function and it's just kinda like

[midnight ermine]

Is it for every single tick of damage you get its 1% cd

[royal vortex]

there's surely got to be some sort of mechanism we can use to make cooldown talents function besides the invocation of death treatment

[royal vortex]

1 hp damage = 1% cooldown

[delicate shadow]

just make it you gain a bunch of cooldown when you break toughness

at least then it's like the intended risk vs reward factor

honestly it's funny to me that zealot even has 3 different cooldown options

[midnight ermine]

Feel like it should also apply to toughness damage

[spare dome]

definitely not. you take thousands of toughness damage a game.

having a feel good number there that's balanced is pretty well impossible

[midnight ermine]

Its just that if you're running martyrdom you probably won't have enough health to spend to get the full value of it

[spare dome]

toughness break makes more sense but then again zealots entire shtick with the ults is yoyoing your toughness up and down to swing fights

[midnight ermine]

I think it might be best if it gave a bunch if cd reduction per missing wound

[spare dome]

yea idk id like it to be 1% hp lost (rounding down) = 6% cooldown removed

then it can work even if youre surviving off multiple until death procs and would also offer some synergy/value to restoring faith

[royal vortex]

the calc must not be changed to hp% lost because then all two people doing the 3 hp curios martyrdom hp tank build w/ bfte will be sad

[spare dome]

(Its me i do that)

[drowsy steppe]

like a true martyr. Martyrdoms CD died so the other 2 may function

[royal vortex]

i got the idea from crab before he passed away tragically on a boat

[spare dome]

crazy how good he tasted with lemon

[royal vortex]

that's fucked up man

[midnight ermine]

I just don't like having to go completely out if my way in order to make my ability useable

60 seconds on CoSF is pretty long

[spare dome]

taking damage is pretty natural, its just the return on it is fucking awful

what you want is Invocation of Death, left hand bottom

[midnight ermine]

But i'm running martyrdom, my crit chance isn't going to be astronomical

[spare dome]

itll be enough. hard part is affording it

one crit will shave off twelve seconds. critting more just refreshes it, so its essentially only asking for one crit every for seconds to maximize it.

unless youre using like a thunder hammer you should be pulling off a decent number of crits just naturally

combat axe or tac axe with their innate crit bonuses and high attack speed pull it off essentially by default

[midnight ermine]

I am using a thunder hammer

[spare dome]

damn with a book too huh

[midnight ermine]

I like the book

[spare dome]

backstab node then

its more generous than you might expect but you do have to be cognizant about it sometimes

[midnight ermine]

What makes the hammer worse for crits

[misty ravine]

It's slow and doesn't have any innate source of crits

[spare dome]

slow

it also doesn't benefit from them much so pushing it in that direction feels like a waste

[misty ravine]

Like you can't just roll the dice fast enough to get a ton of crits that way, it doesn't have a passive hidden crit chance boost like tac axe (which is also very fast on top of it), and you can't even force it with a blessing like eviscerator

[fiery ingot]

bro chaxe is a godtier weapon

[spare dome]

ye its fun

[tame sluice]

yeah, but it can only damage a maximum of 4 enemies per swing

[fiery ingot]

what should i pair it with tho

[tame sluice]

Regardless of how much cleave you actually have

[fiery ingot]

its allg my favorite part is shredding ragers with each light attack

[spare dome]

idk i just run bolter on everything

yea that left click has a fun rhythm to it

[midnight ermine]

Of i take chastise the wicked (ik its called FoTF but chastise the wicked sounds cooler) would there be much need for cd regen

[misty ravine]

Need is a strong word but it's a lot of fun (and can also be crutched on hard)

[plush estuary]

always take a CDR talent on zealot

all 3 abilities are powerful

[misty ravine]

IMO Invocation of Death is worth taking on any build with Chastise, even if you don't go all the way into Piety (for example if your weapon isn't well suited for it). If you literally never crit other than the guaranteed one from Chastise, that's 27% cooldown reduction (8 seconds off a 30 second CD) and it can only go up from there.

[midnight ermine]

Even with TH?

Chastise is cool and great, mostly i just love CoSF because visually its cool and can be pretty clutch

Also the voicework for it is pretty nice with the agitator zealot

[delicate shadow]

agitator book zealy is what I run lol

I usually bring the backstab talent and crusher, you get the cooldown back reasonably fast

Thammer might be a little slower on passively racking up backstabs though, with crusher you knock stuff silly enough that you get plenty without trying

[midnight ermine]

And this works well for you?

[delicate shadow]

hell yea

at least in anything outside high havoc, h30-40 I'd go a crit weapon and IOD

[midnight ermine]

My wargear loadouts keep asking me to "verify my equipped gear"

[delicate shadow]

you may wanna verify your equipped gear then

don't think I've had that happen to me so far

[midnight ermine]

I don't know how to do that

[delicate shadow]

idk just open your inventory and see what you've got equiped

maybs unequip and re-equip stuff and see if it goes away

[hearty nebula]

this is what happens if you delete an item you had equipped on a loadout

just re-equip stuff and it'll fix itself

[midnight ermine]

Think i'm gonna try a bit of a different build now, thinking a blazing piety build

Is relic sword good for this?

[delicate shadow]

I usually run IJ just because I feel a lil sluggish otherwise on relic blade

but yea there's nothing stopping you from running BP really, it wouldn't surprise me if chastise uptime with IOD is good enough that you'll be plenty fast still, plus relic blade hits like a truck regardless

[midnight ermine]

I always run martyrdom so blazing piety might be cool too

Is possible to one shot carapace ogyrn on damnation and above

[tame sluice]

yeah easily especially as a zealot

[misty ravine]

Especially with TH since it buffs one attack, and TH does more damage in one attack than anything else

[tame sluice]

you just hit em with it

[faint prairie]

wo

[manic edge]

i think i mightve got lucky on that, even tho i wasnt looking for this gun

[misty ravine]

Optimum stat roll yes, unfortunately infantry lasguns are just not very good right now

[tame sluice]

On Zealot they are not very good. They are one of the best guns in the game for Veteran and Psyker

Actually they're probably decent on Zealot too I don't really know anything about the class because they are painfully boring to play

[mighty root]

The sleep gun

[misty ravine]

Laspistol has seemed like a better infantry lasgun for a long time, especially on zealot due to fast draw and high mobility

[mighty root]

I wuv my fast draw weapons

Put one motion on zealot

[misty ravine]

Plus high innate crit chance, actually accurate hipfire (that also makes enemy head hitboxes twice the size)

[spare talon]

theyre good on vet and psyker, but just outclassed by lots of things tbh

oh and they require you to aim and hit heads from range, which is a rare skill for darktide players to have

[misty ravine]

They did, they called it Blades of Faith

[mighty root]

Real?

[spare talon]

no the revolvers do not count as hitting heads from range cuz their hitbox is the size of a school bus, sideways

[misty ravine]

If I had fast reflexes, good aim, and game sense, I wouldn't be playing coop games

[misty ravine]

Half joking but yes, you can animation cancel the long draw times of e.g. Bolter or Flamer by throwing a knife

[mighty root]

Yeah i do that a lot

[misty ravine]

I guess that's the other thing, zealots very frequently take throwing knives, which do mostly the same role of quickly picking off soft specials/elites and inconvenient shooters

[mint brook]

what do Ds4 zealot use for perks and blessings?

[mighty root]

I like to run precog and repoist but thurst and precog is good

[mighty root]

Dog thankful for jesus

[acoustic dune]

is that kdc 1

[spare talon]

yes

[acoustic dune]

neat
i love farming armor at skalitz

[twin wagon]

I really don't like some of the writing in kcd2, bonding with x faction and quickly becoming allies was kinda bs and disney levels of writing, organic writing gets sloppy as you progress and let's not talk about some of motivated decision making and preaching

[modern lintel]

free money

[acoustic dune]

from i heard you cant kill some character

[twin wagon]

yep and they are aggravating and past a point not relevant for any mission

[acoustic dune]

isnt there one whom is very arrogant?

[twin wagon]

[dire bough]

Does Zealot have a lot of build variety? I'm still new and it's the first class I picked

[obsidian quail]

not really

at the first segment of the tree you never pick left or mid nodes

you almost never want to pick right keystone, the left one is just better

[distant yoke]

Zealot is like, 2 builds, with weapon of choice

[obsidian quail]

mostly it depends on if you REALLY want to use any grenade, or martyrdom, or other specific thing

[distant yoke]

at least Zealot tree allows you to make a lot of different weapons work. Ogryn is the opposite, you have like 5 weapon types total that genuinely do something

[ornate bone]

Which one yall think

[mint brook]

what is the d4 blessings and perks zealots run with?

[dire bough]

eh, is that a good thing?

[distant yoke]

No, it just is what it is

[dire bough]

hmm that sucks

I'll probably level him up still, what's a good class with build variety?

[mint brook]

there is no way to oneshot a crusher with the combat blade right?

[spare talon]

With stealth but it's not really worth it

[mint brook]

i just wonder what the best stealth build is ...

i feel like the whole backstabbing idea is so under developed

[ornate bone]

Last survivor 4 times in one game.. Why can people just not live? 😦

Fury Zealot needs good running skills

[spare talon]

The generally best zealot tree structure is very similar for almost all weapons
The cons to that is that means you realistically have the same build for every weapon
The pros to that means your weapon is your build, so all you need fo focus on is how to properly use that weapon, and you can easily pick up a new one if you choose

[polar nexus]

right, gotta go bling

[mint brook]

would it be a bad idea to make a talent, that make all backstabs count as weakspot hits?

[ornate bone]

First one

[acoustic dune]

check pin most of zealot build are very which the same skill point and aint much variety

[fiery ingot]

chaxe hidden op weapon dont let fs know

[eternal tide]

I'm about to try DS, bless my soul and hope I return to Caxe/Taxe

[fiery ingot]

bro had an chad ogryn soloing a demon host twice in a the run just now

[midnight ermine]

Guys i have the best dueling sword ever! 0 finesse and 79 mobility!

Its the new meta

[acoustic dune]

all my melee weapon on zealot all have 80 mobility

[eternal tide]

okay finished my first maxed DS run

no wonder everyone says its broken

[signal spoke]

toothpick

[eternal tide]

2 shotting crushers wasn't an exaggeration, superb mobility, ease of kiting.forgiving room for error

back in to the basement it goes - while it gives a lot of amazing benefits

the satisfaction isn't there unlike Caxe/Taxe or Knife

[copper hawk]

No it's not but it's what we got

[frosty herald]

We need vet's skilltree

[polar nexus]

Knife is kinda in the same zone as DS tbh. It's less egregious though. DS5 is the ethical choice. But yeah there's no satisfaction using weapons like the DS or the plasma

[polar nexus]

I prefer psyker skill tree. More pathing. Vet is not far behind tho

[midnight ermine]

Me when the 50th moron teammate shoots the obvious daemonhost

(They cannot in fact, take it)

[eternal tide]

I love knife zoomies -- also since I started doing the stealth penance its growing on me LMAO

I do think I'm playing it correctly, don't stray too away from team, kill key units that can threaten team, stealth revive is neat too.

~~I'm becoming the shroud zealot people hate 😭 ~~

[distant yoke]

nah, the shroud zealots people hate are the fuckers running a nautical mile ahead of their team, aggroing every pack in sight, then shitting on the team and ragequitting after going down to a Crusher overhead

[eternal tide]

good 2 know, community taught me well LUL

[midnight ermine]

What i hate is my random teammates i get

The most lobotomized people on the planet

[hearty nebula]

welcome to pve games

[eternal tide]

did my first Havoc, I'm confused. I got to rank 2 already? 🤔 also now I have to deal with not being maxed level again

Is the gameplay in Havoc different too? The group I joined just beelined for the next event and skipping entire maps. We finished Dark Communion in 11 mins

[signal spoke]

Very early Havoc levels are pretty easy as they are exactly malice diff

[eternal tide]

ahhh

when does it become harder? or when I need to focus rather

[signal spoke]

Around H14 I believe that is when it is starting to be

I might be wrong and could actually be 15+

[hearty nebula]

Havoc 15 is basically supposed to be the equivelant of an Auric Maelstrom iirc

[frosty herald]

Fading light 1 is the first spike

[signal spoke]

I would say that H20 is where the difficulty spike starts to make a lot of differenxe

I never went higher than 26 because that is where I can reach my limit

[eternal tide]

I see, are there any benefits to this? the weekly rewards didnt seem that much

should I treat it as a different game mode altogether?

[stone fern]

yeah pretty much

tbh i stopped playing havoc all together it takes too long and its kinda boring

youd have to be very good to play it like we play auric since one shooter is enough to kill you

[eternal tide]

maybe I'll just top at 7, cool number on top of my name

[acoustic dune]

melk coind are very useless other then curio

[stone fern]

🚬 i have ptsd from my last havoc 40

like a 1 hour game 4 dcs 7 deaths and we lost at the very end event

[eternal tide]

good god

[signal spoke]

Emperor fading Light my behated

[eternal tide]

what counts as being downed? when an an ally can revive you off the floor? or when you're actually dead and need to be rescued?

[modern jasper]

Havoc 20+ turns into a cover based shooter

And honestly that genre is a guilty pleasure of mine so with a good team where you take it slow, use cover, psyker bubble etc its pretty comfy and fun

[signal spoke]

When you are in the floor waiting to be revived before you die

[eternal tide]

ah the state where we take a wound if they succeed?

[signal spoke]

Yes

[full nebula]

Yeah, rescues don't count as revives

[eternal tide]

oh boi, gonna take a couple Auric Maelstrom runs for me then

[signal spoke]

Rescue state is when the teammate died and is waiting on a checkpoint

[modern carbon]

every time I have to remind my friendlies to push poxbursters I feel warm and fuzzy inside, though, that could be the radiation and shrapnel speaking

[acoustic dune]

thats khorn from how much you need to remind them

[signal spoke]

You doing ASS title?

[acoustic dune]

we all know the best title is reject

[eternal tide]

nah, I just want the insignia

[signal spoke]

Oh yeah

[eternal tide]

i'm keeping Reject until I get something that really says "I improved a lot"

or the Nomad title, sounds fitting for Zealot

[signal spoke]

Theres a cheese way that if a teammate died before they got down like killed or throw off the map, it wount count as failed run

[eternal tide]

that means I didnt earn it :c

[copper hawk]

Noobz..

[signal spoke]

The run is still going

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[signal spoke]

It will only count if someone actually got downed state

[acoustic dune]

imagine a no wound build

or mod
where if you get down once you die

or get you lad to play psycher and let you solo the map

via exploding himself to deatth

[eternal tide]

how does that even work

[signal spoke]

I got the my insígnia when a zealot died off the map from an explosion before he got downed, we rescued them and completes the rest of run Without none of us going down and still counted to the penancd

[acoustic dune]

warp explosion corrupt a wound

[eternal tide]

ahhh 🤔 so it kidna loops over the going down problem

[frosty herald]

death sentence one down wait this is darktide

[fiery ingot]

i like when i get unexperienced or new to the difficulty players in my auric games. means the run is potentially going to be challenging and gives me ample room to understand my mistakes, since player mistakes gets much more punished when your teammates arent as reliable as good players you'd usually expect

[acoustic dune]

i mean getting down is arleady a death sentence just die and cut it short

[fiery ingot]

oh boy i was reading a very long past discussion my bad. didnt realize i left my screen scrolled so far up in this channel

[acoustic dune]

remenber you can ask for help and form a squad

[fiery ingot]

oh no im not being sarcastic, i was just making my thoughts on the matter, as i was reading a discussion and someone mentioned they hate their random teammates being bad. ty for the offer tho

[vague depot]

I just ignore my team and run forward like the circle chaser I was born to be

[acoustic dune]

well people complaining is part of them game at this point
per example
i like to complain people whom leave after getting down
if i am gonna lose we are gonna lose togheter

[fiery ingot]

that'd be me on the inside but then again, i aint that good to survive a crusher pack all on my own

[acoustic dune]

just dodge

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-gif-4963626947041558937

[fiery ingot]

if i get to spectate other players, i always try to, its good to get references imo. but i also dont see the issue if someone leaves when they die, as you at least get a bot to split the aggro with you

[vague depot]

Crushers aren’t a threat as long as your idea of dodging them isn’t mashing the button and praying it autotimes for you
The real shit is something like a mauler overheading you through the crushers body like a yakubian lard cultist

[acoustic dune]

in the word of other melee slasher
wait for the drag and dont panic parry
or in this case dont panic doge

[fiery ingot]

could be a massive sight skill issue, but if i see a crusher pack i can only focus on one at a time or two at best, but more than that i always fail to pay attention to

[eternal tide]

I hate this so much crusher pack with a sprinkled surprise of someone behind

[fiery ingot]

it used to be possible to parry a crusher overhead with catachan before, it was hard af but someone once posted a video about it like a year or so, if they changed it, too bad

[vague depot]

Don’t think they changed it you can still do it

[acoustic dune]

devil claw

[vague depot]

The timing is just a bit more tight
With a couple buffs zealot can one shot crushers to the head with a parry

[fiery ingot]

or a mauler and two bulwarks

[eternal tide]

not to mention Crushers with Shroudfield skill

[acoustic dune]

shroudfield stink

[fiery ingot]

what the fuck is that

[eternal tide]

sometimes sound cues don't really... work

the common complaint is silent poxbursters, but every now and then ya get the Crusher landin a sneaky overhead from nowhere

[fiery ingot]

ohh yeah its hard to notice crushers behind you if you already have some sound cues coming from the front

[acoustic dune]

also trapper

[fiery ingot]

there's an mod that absolutely saved my life so many times and i cant play without it anymore. it gives a distinct color to aoes explosions that can harm the players (such as barrels if they get lit, fire grenades and poxwalkers bursts) and makes silent bursters a absolutely non-issue to me

[eternal tide]

I keep telling myself I'll start installing mods and I never got into it. Maybe another time

[fiery ingot]

its a good qol that you dont miss unless you try it once

[acoustic dune]

the ration pack mod is a life saver
also help to see whom double dip

[eternal tide]

fine I'll look into it tonight

totally not gonna start with leaderboard to ego boost myself and pats on my back

[acoustic dune]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/93

[eternal tide]

o:

its per charge? damn, I thought it had a set amount people can take from

[acoustic dune]

if you want i can give you my mod list for essential stuff
my mod pack is pretty bare bone

[eternal tide]

sure!

[acoustic dune]

NumericUI
true_level
animation_events
scoreboard
Healthbars
reveal_blessings
WhatTheLocalization
ForTheEmperor
CollectibleFinder
buy_until_rating
Decode_Helper
Ration Pack
debuff_indicator
show_crit_chance
name_it
SpectatorHUD
StimmsPickupIcon
Clock
ChatBlock
Enhanced_descriptions

stimm one help a lot too see what your teamate have

[eternal tide]

lemme just ss that

thaaanks, I'll check it out later... if I remember

[acoustic dune]

ss???

[eternal tide]

screenshot, screencap

[fiery ingot]

there's a compiled one that is stims, ammo and healing packs, books and heretic symbols all in one too

the ammo one is extremely useful for havoc

[acoustic dune]

yeah knowing when to pickup ammo is great

[crimson python]

Im looking for a fun jack of all trades zealot build. Anyone got anything like that?

[acoustic dune]

check pin

[crimson python]

How?

[fiery ingot]

top right of discord

[crimson python]

Thanks

[signal spoke]

He got fucking caught by the hand

[nimble fiber]

[fiery ingot]

[fleet zealot]

first game of the day

quell macro psyker teammate zzzz

[eternal tide]

I tried the mods some of them at least, scoreboard having a highlight means good right?

tried it out, a bit overwhelming at first with all the new things popping up

[acoustic dune]

yarp

[eternal tide]

hell yeah, yellow highlight goo brrr

[fiery ingot]

dopamine

[hard nexus]

yellow means best stat (most damage dealt, least damage taken, etc)

also ignore the overkill stat, it’s a dumb stat

[fiery ingot]

i deactivated score as well because its p useless imo

[ornate bone]

I have vague memories of people complaining about their teammates getting "low offense score" once or twice

[jade juniper]

i ask guidance

how do i build zealot with crusher and bolt pistol to get to havoc 40?

[violet hornet]

Took mushrooms last night and played a few auric mael / auric damn games with thammer and my god, I was annihilating everything. Didn't let a single daemonhost survive

but now I'm like

[jade juniper]

heres the current chorus build

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-the-sasquatch-the-big-lez-show-gif-5910861361020322873

[hard nexus]

blazing piety, tknife, either chastise or chorus (i’d probably take chastise)

slaughterer skullcrusher (or a stagger blessing instead of slaughterer) carapace unyielding

bolt pistol takes puncture and blessing of choice, such as lethal proximity

[stone fern]

how did chorus become meta......

[jade juniper]

knives :(

[hard nexus]

idk but it’s boring so i don’t use it

[stone fern]

what hath we become.....

[violet hornet]

it stops your team from instantly dying the first time any kind of ranged enemy fires once since they don't dodge / slide / take cover

[hard nexus]

knives are still amazing in h40, they only lose value in pus hardened

[stone fern]

remove fading light......

[jade juniper]

i dislike throwing knives as the weapon and as a concept

[hard nexus]

how so?

[stone fern]

knives are so good once you get comfortable with them

[violet hornet]

lots of people relying on normal damn playstyle killing and staggering to prevent getting hit and getting flattened by a pus hardened havoc bruiser that doesn't stagger or die from those normal breakpoints

[jade juniper]

i cant figure out how to aim the damn things, i think the bolt pistol is just easier to use instead

[misty ravine]

Enemy damage cranked up and player health & toughness nerfed until damage gating with yellow toughness gained overriding importance. Payday 2 One Down all over again

[stone fern]

i now have ~100 hours with knives 400 more i shall become okay with them

[sterile basalt]

U don’t need most of the numbers in there

[hard nexus]

at about 10 meters just aim at their heads, then aim slightly above at like 10-15 meters, then past that is just experience

[stone fern]

anoint gets rid of most of the bp issues puncture and maniac or flak are just icing on the cake

[jade juniper]

why the tknives over immolation grenades

[north sedge]

either work, but tknives have way better nodes leading to it

[hard nexus]

better pathing, tknives are amazing

[stone fern]

because immos give you 3 charges to kill hoards you can melee while knives if used correctly can remove disablers from the game

[jade juniper]

i use bistol for disablers

[stone fern]

yeah you can kill them while reloading

[dry hinge]

Using knives in pus hardened

[sterile basalt]

@eternal tide u could go for a super simplified version here

[stone fern]

you can kill trappers while blocking or clearing

[hard nexus]

they still work, just not against the pus hardened enemies obviously

[violet hornet]

Landing consecutive tknife headshots is impossible

[hard nexus]

clad nerd reacting me is crazy

[eternal tide]

yooo this is way better

its in the mod options right?

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j1XTHdL0FAo-oVq1q?invite=cr-MSxpODQsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[sterile basalt]

Yea

[jade juniper]

why puncture? my bistol is currently surgical and deadly accurate, flakiak

[sterile basalt]

Do u want to 1HS flamers with ur boltpistol

[jade juniper]

not what i asked

what does it do with the rest of the build

[sterile basalt]

Yea, puncture makes up for 1 tap breakpoints

[jade juniper]

why do i want bleed

[hard nexus]

the bleed meets a lot of breakpoints, also lets you shoot an ogryn/boss, then melee it to stack scourge

[static sky]

This cat knows what he’s talking about. He’s like darktide ghandi

[hard nexus]

wdym not what you asked, he just explained it lmfao

[dry hinge]

At the end of the day…90% of the playerbase won’t ever play optimally

[jade juniper]

is it more than deadly accurate and surgical?

[sterile basalt]

Do u want to rely on a crit to 1HS important enemies or just be able to 1 tap them regardless

[hard nexus]

you don’t have to hold ADS, the bleed ignores pus hardened

[sterile basalt]

Also u never responded to dm

[jade juniper]

ok

[static sky]

I’m sorry. Winter in Wisconsin has life upside down atm.

[jade juniper]

ive just remembered something very important. i am very poor(spent all my dockets buying weapons for masteries)

[sterile basalt]

All good
Maybe another time

[jade juniper]

heres the build now

[static sky]

Brotha eewwww! lol jp

[jade juniper]

i dont like tknives i like the flamey grenade

[hard nexus]

drop fortitude in fellowship, drop the modifier node for chorus

take duelist and faithful frenzy

actually this build is like really really bad lmfao idek how to fix it without just giving u another one

[static sky]

Zealots gotta get gud with knives broski. It sucks at first but they are sooooo clutch.

[jade juniper]

it was an inexorable judgement build

this might have been the shitass penance build i was doing

[static sky]

I play on Xbox. If I can get gud with knives. So can you.

[hard nexus]

this will work better, you won’t have TWBS but you should be chorusing 90% of the time anyway so

[jade juniper]

twbs?

[hard nexus]

thy wrath be swift

[jade juniper]

ah

[distant yoke]

Weapons on this?

[jade juniper]

crusher and bistol

[distant yoke]

Piety Crusher?

[hard nexus]

chorus botting so yeah

[violet hornet]

definitely want duelist for crusher

[hard nexus]

you want duelist on every build

[north sedge]

crusher works on every keystone

[jade juniper]

my discord keeps trying to explode so im having a hard time keeping up

[jade juniper]

good to see that stun grenades are called as they are

[static sky]

I didn’t make this list/guide but it opened my eyes on the zealots skill tree and weapon optimization and build harmony. I can’t think of a better word for harmony right now lol

[fleet zealot]

besides mk4 chaxe and flamer 🙂

[violet hornet]

Synergy perhaps

[hard nexus]

even with it, its just free damage

[fleet zealot]

free damage that doesn't do anything

[static sky]

Synergy!!!!!! That’s it!! Thank you

[hard nexus]

yo mama

[fleet zealot]

low finesse values+ high base damage that hits your BPs with a little ramping

only time i take duelist is if i'm taking desperation

[hard nexus]

god i cant wait to not play this

[static sky]

You just saved me from a brain hemorrhage… life saver.

[carmine falcon]

i love youtube comment section

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-daredevil-dog-haron-how-he-felt-saying-that-how-he-felt-after-saying-that-gif-25714915

[frosty herald]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA

which video is this lmfao

[fiery ingot]

i followed your discussion with clad about this the other day and tried it in a few runs. im still learning the ways of the chaxe but i didnt feel much difference with or without duellist in auric maelstroms

[fleet zealot]

i get carried through havoc40 every week with my premade

[carmine falcon]

reginald's new upload https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOXmdOZuMXY

[copper hawk]

Troo

[fleet zealot]

meanwhile every duelist sword i see in pubs that isn't a psyker or maybe flamer zealot sucks ass

[carmine falcon]

this is the type of guy that complains about the game being piss easy no matter what while only using META TM TRADEMARK

[fleet zealot]

literally gets owned by 5 bruisers

[copper hawk]

To some that zealot tree is more than acceptable

[violet hornet]

plasma toothpick vets be like

[fleet zealot]

biggest offender by far

kraks plasma dueling sword vets from party finder,

[frosty herald]

i path through stuns for my main build lumii is just yapping

[copper hawk]

That image is peak that guy posted, it's totally true

[frosty herald]

oh boy the same dude in the comments says that thammer is a piece of shit trash weapon yeah hes 100% crutching on dueling sword

[fleet zealot]

isn't ironhelm shock and awe weirdly finds it's place in havoc

[copper hawk]

Comment on that video ?

[fleet zealot]

dude has a premade that includes 2 purge psykers, never has to deal with the massive bruiser packs

[copper hawk]

Shock and awe deals w the hitmass issues

[static sky]

My super favorite Darktide moments is watching people jump into crusher overheads. It’s more entertaining than pubs running into daemonhosts

[fleet zealot]

i'm completely guessing tho

[copper hawk]

LMFAO troo ,, i rember tryin 2 convince ppl to unbind jump from spacebar so they'd stop doin this

[frosty herald]

.

[fiery ingot]

sometimes, when playing knife ij i accidentaly slide right into a hole or a pit

[carmine falcon]

i got my friend into the game and he refuses to bother with dodges and proper melee
(i play backline ill just shoot)
bro thinks this is killing floor 🔥

[static sky]

Most people I play with(Xbox) treat this game like CoD or Fortnite. Then they proceed to be down constantly while spamming I need ammo

[nimble fiber]

[carmine falcon]

i keep telling him the game is 50/50 u gotta learn both
ill just let him learn the hard way

[static sky]

The rarest achievement on Xbox is complete 100 missions with no one being downed. Almost impossible to achieve.

.016 have it lol

[carmine falcon]

oh that's possible just play for 100000 hours

[static sky]

20,000 matches for 100 dream team runs. Seems obtainable

[placid fiber]

even before I decided to "git gud" in vt2 I knew the importance of dodges... :/

[royal vortex]

the steam achievement rate for that one is much higher at 5.3% - back when the game first released the most time efficient resource grind was malice, so you had a lot of smooth games just because people trying to get plasteel (everyone) were running much easier difs

[placid fiber]

That's like trying to play a 2d platformer without jumping...

[royal vortex]

i think it's one of the only achievements that's gotten harder over time rather than easier

[static sky]

You know what’s crazy. The lower the difficulty the harder the missions I’ve found. Personally. If I really wanna have fun, I go play uprising.

[placid fiber]

I have no clue what the % was when I got it, but, it was way back when in the 1st 1/3rd of january 2023...

[carmine falcon]

he just thinks this is like every other horde shooter where you can be a backline marksman and do well
works in left4dead or killin floor or whatever but those games aren't built with melee being half of the gameplay

[misty ravine]

Weird that he puts Crucis Thammer in A tier because it has serious downsides but also very attractive upsides in its single-target damage but then puts Ironhelm in the same tier

[placid fiber]

It's as much a core mechanic(dodging in tide games) as jumping is in platformers... :/

You don't dodge: You eat shit very easily probably very often lol

[violet hornet]

literally every person I show darktide to does this lmao

[dry hinge]

Even less know that sliding dodges bullets

[placid fiber]

Even my friends(before they quit vt2 while I stuck with it and eventually got gud) knew the importance of avoiding hits... granted they had a ton of l4s2 experience

[carmine falcon]

i bet 100$ he's gonna be messaging me telling me that he's eating shit in higher diffs soon lmao

[misty ravine]

Had people complaining about VT2 that they can't just make a ranged build that literally does nothing but shoot bow like they wanted to play an ARPG archer in first-person

[carmine falcon]

play melee focused game
be mad that you can't do epic ranged builds

[placid fiber]

Who?! It's a medieval fantasy warhammer tide game...

[fringe bay]

I’ve seen a lot of new players do that, but to be fair I probably would too without my time playing vermintide

[static sky]

I was watching a video. I forgot who. But during it he stated. If you’re not clearing missions it’s usually your fault. That resonated in me. I did a lot of inner reflection and exploration of my playing habits. Lo and behold. He was 100% on point. I was playing wrong. Everyone blames pubs and bad teammates.

[misty ravine]

Randoms in pub games when the game first released, or asking the question in Reddit ("how do I make a pure ranged build" etc)

[placid fiber]

At least darktide I could see this kind of thing being asked... but vt2?!

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[fringe bay]

Well you can make a pure ranged build, and then watch as the skaven rip you to shreds

[misty ravine]

Average pub waystalker:

[ebon bobcat]

That was fun to do tbh

[placid fiber]

You can make a pure ranged build in vt2, but, it is mainly excluded to: throwing spears, waystalker w/ bows(and kurnous' rewards(and not fucking full autoing the bow)), and sienna... You still want to melee, tho

[fringe bay]

Or ranger veteran, but like you’re gonna need melee to keep them off

[placid fiber]

ranger vet requires ammo management, like waystalker but yeah

[misty ravine]

For RV at least you can pretend the grudge raker bash doesn't count as melee because you keep your ranged weapon out

[fringe bay]

I hate that melee in horde shooters has kind of become just a thing for only melee classes to use

[carmine falcon]

play hersey and you'll find many vets who die to poxwalkers its comical

[placid fiber]

oh and fire pistols/flamethrower on bardin(it's pretty ass for a full ranged set up)

And ur gonna have to eat a fuck ton of hp, like on sienna, if you spam too much <.<

[fringe bay]

Can you even use flamethrower on ranger

[placid fiber]

ironbreaker and outcast engineer(no, to ranger vet)

I can't remember if you can use the trollhammer on ranger vet, I don't think you can... but I've never really thought about taking it over the rifle/masterwork pistol...

[stable cypress]

p sure you can't use it on vet

[placid fiber]

I know you can use the trollhammer on ironbreaker and outcast engineer

[fringe bay]

Troll is ironbreaker exclusive I believe

[placid fiber]

Outcast gets it, as well, like the fire weapons

[fringe bay]

Yeah that makes sense

[placid fiber]

going ham on a boss with the trollhammer, on ironbreaker, is peak

[fringe bay]

I’ve actually ingrained the melee range of vermintide into my brain so the tiny melee range of other horde shooters just feels awful

[carmine falcon]

melee in 99% of shooters is just a "oh shit" button not an actual system

[placid fiber]

Are they as bad as the knight sword in rogue legacy 2 on a character with dwarfism?(It's so fucking small x.x)

It was omega tiny in rogue legayc 1 as well... (basically like a butter knife lol)

[fringe bay]

Part of the reason I love these games so much, it’s not a last resort, it’s your first choice

[placid fiber]

Damn it, now I wanna play more rogue legacy 2 again :/

[fringe bay]

I played a lot of Hunt and to hit someone with a katana you have to be closer than the thickness of a wooden fence

[placid fiber]

Well... the sword in rogue legacy 1 and 2(with dwarfism) hits at the distance it is swung it... it is just somewhere between 1/3rd and 1/2 as far as it is on a normal character

[fringe bay]

Like you have to be right up in someone’s face to hit someone with a bayonet, it’s pitiful

[placid fiber]

You have to practically be touching the enemies in rogue legacy >.>'

It isn't quite as bad as I am making it sound,. but, it is rough

Meanwhile with giantism it is the opposite... a much longer ranged

[atomic matrix]

Is there a talent perk combination that makes chorus and martyrdom work well together?

[placid fiber]

Love slashing an enemy through a wall or 2 with the katana in rogue legacy 2 >.>

[stone fern]

you can do this with every weapon but you lose out on chastise damage

[mighty root]

My hunt showdown addiction was ended last year and I’m about to relapse

[fringe bay]

I’m not, I think I’m done with the game for good

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[atomic matrix]

Wanna have more build diversity and lean in the cc nature of the crusher for it, thanks for it.

[stone fern]

you can also path to stuns with this

i recomend a quick draw weapon with this tho like revolver or boltpistol

[atomic matrix]

Yeah, when no knifes, you do need some special range eliminator

[rare kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-wants-to-be-cat-gif-25292187

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/hugsss-iluvmybf-gif-16369092014331238171

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spare-spare-the-sympathy-the-sympathy-wawa-cat-gif-25825252

[placid fiber]

sgih I chose a character with the pacifist trait in rogue legacy 2 for money, in case I found a random weapon somewhere to make me able to kill stuff... I had to search over 1/2 of the castle before I finally found a weapon. x.x

I ran into every single enemy along to way and somehow didn't die(dashed into most of em), as well, lol

tfw you have poor platforming skills <.<

[stone fern]

have u tried simply rolling better traits

[spiral ridge]

Is it okay to dump mobility for spearhead boltgun? seen some people dumping collateral

[copper hawk]

Yah

[placid fiber]

I purposefully chose it... because of this reason(I keep the gold bonus, after picking up a random weapon and being able to kill stuff actively)

Now I can full clear the castle, but, I will get a metric fuck ton more money :3

At least it isn't vertigo, which flips you camera upside down and makes it backwards as well <.< @stone fern

[stone fern]

just flip your monitor

[placid fiber]

I knew what it did, since it was in rogue legacy 1 as well. Needless to say I have never taken that trait in my 290 hours of rogue legacy 2 <.<

[sterile stone]

That smile will haunt bro for the rest of the year

Mans got called pedo on national tv, that's gotta be tough

[spiral ridge]

why do some people dump damage on purgation flamer?

[placid fiber]

Also I just reailzed something... I had the assassin's invisibility I could have used to get around enemies earlier way easier...

[placid fiber]

the difference between 60% damage and 80% damage is roughly 1 dps, almost all of the dps comes from the burn stat

[spiral ridge]

how much mobility benefits us in that case?

[placid fiber]

it gives you slightly better dodges and sprint speed... which gives more value than 1 damage per second >.>

[violet hornet]

The flamer dodge improvement is nice since entering and leaving braced fire takes a moment and you can dodge without leaving braced fire

Which is your only real defense while braced firing since it doesn't knock back or stagger and you otherwise cannot run. You can FotF, throw knife, and dodge while braced firing

[fleet zealot]

since it's a ranged weapon, the dodges don't behave exactly like melee dodges, so the extra distance is very helpful, esp vs ragers

[violet hornet]

Besides finishing enemies off with flamer which can be less ammo effective than applying your dot and letting it burn them to death

[copper hawk]

Significantly more than the loss of 1 damage (rounded down)

The damage done by the flamer is actually from the Burn stat, not Damage - Burn applies stacks of Burn to enemies, and with 76%+ gives you full stacks - the damage stat is the direct damage your flame deals to only the first target you hit

The direct damage is relatively negligible compared to even 3 or 4 stacks of Burn

[acoustic dune]

why is the lad being pinch by the neck

[pale spindle]

You make your own bed

[sterile stone]

True true, buddy did get caught on stage feeling up a 16 yr old

[ornate bone]

hey guys, what blessing should i run on my dueling sword for havoc

[pale spindle]

Not just that...... 😔

[sterile stone]

I know

Good though that mans got exposed for being a weirdo

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/not-like-us-super-bowl-kendrick-lamar-say-drake-gif-5366568205045902215

[acoustic dune]

thats a tiny bear

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1340362257737056297/activage_iguana.mp4?ex=67b21520&is=67b0c3a0&hm=b6d3acd7c02325a8fed8bc8fa6f7ffddf633392a517f6a594d0aada9a2a9082c&

[jade juniper]

what do i take for bolt pistol perks now that i have the dockets to actually do it?

[hard nexus]

carapace unyielding

[copper hawk]

Noobpace Noobyielding

[wanton fossil]

The poor luck of me going into 5 damnation matches early this afternoon and not seeing a single daemonhost then my bf gets on and I hear the DH voice and I’m like

[jade juniper]

same for the crusher?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[jade juniper]

k

[median steeple]

goo g

[misty ravine]

tfw you press F to F of the F and it won't Fing F

[wanton fossil]

YES for precisely this I wish to thammer the host lemme at her

[grizzled aspen]

I feel like Patrick covered in ice cream rn, just ate a subway sandwich and they put way too much stuff on it.

[frosty herald]

explode

[grizzled aspen]

I swear that was like a 5lb sandwich.

[stone fern]

happened to today 😭

[frosty herald]

my pookie cica hasnt refunded wilds yet cant wait to play with him

[frosty herald]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/336

[hexed igloo]

I'm gonna assume you look like Patrick covered in ice cream for a different, much gayer reason

[grizzled aspen]

@remote lark I command you to eat this man.

[misty ravine]

I have that mod, I think it was lag/desync (potentially due to shitass wifi, potentially existed between ears)

[frosty herald]

calling your boyfriend to defend you again?

[hexed igloo]

Smh my head

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[hexed igloo]

He asked for no pickles

[grizzled aspen]

To "defend me"? Nah. He is better at arguing with dumb people, so I'm letting him do the legwork.

[hexed igloo]

Hey hey hey I may be dumb but I'm not stupid

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-smiling-speed-ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-2336905834632375345

[grizzled aspen]

I didn't say you were stupid, I said you were dumb.

[hexed igloo]

Me when I misunderstand the joke

[grizzled aspen]

Me when I'm on the verge of a food coma:

(higher order thinking is eluding me bc mmmm chicken in my tummy)

[hexed igloo]

You got meat in ur tummy?

[misty ravine]

stomach full --> cant think straight
stomach empty --> cant think straight
it's a vicious cycle

[nimble fiber]

stomach full --> sleep

[hexed igloo]

The only time I eat a real meal is just before bed, so checks out

[tawdry leaf]

i dont get it

[misty ravine]

"Pretty Privilege" is real I guess is what it's saying

[hexed igloo]

Me when I don't get it

[hexed igloo]

Idk I think you're reading too deep into it I just thought it was funny

[remote lark]

i already bullied them

they're one of the 'fun is meta' people who is ok with suggesting garbage to new players

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1316745143357018114/hey-girl.gif

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[frosty herald]

😌

[wintry solar]

where can one find the meta havok 40 builds

[mighty root]

Blocked by frog gang

[hexed igloo]

Yeah cos it's funny

[hexed igloo]

I don't think it takes that much tbh

[mighty root]

Dog thankful for Jesus obliterates his psyche

[hexed igloo]

Everything I say is true and based unless you disagree then it's ironic and a joke

[mighty root]

Dog thankful to Jesus is a chaos relic that causes the recipients to immediately break down and poop themselves

[hexed igloo]

Guy going into hospital to find his wife laying in a bed is a chaos relic

You wanna know what I think? Me too, my mind speaks in an eldritch tongue, what do these symbols mean || |¡ |-

[mighty root]

[sullen forge]

boo boo boo boo

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[sullen forge]

That bullfrog has no clue what the fuck is going on LMAO

[copper hawk]

Im happy the guy is wearing gloves holding the frog

[sullen forge]

Recall its cause the oils and just human skin in general feel like sandpaper to them right

[copper hawk]

It can suffocate them

Amphibians are cutaneous respirators, do they breathe through their skin

[frosty herald]

our fingers burn frogs because of the things we touch daily and we have quite salty skin

[polar nexus]

TIL

[fleet zealot]

look at that impeccable movement, the grace, the agility

the sheer adhd

[mighty root]

The sheer mid

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-professor-jones-uncanny-gif-10725295082977733048

[mighty root]

Why is it hi def

[grizzled aspen]

Bro is speaking enchantment table.

[hexed igloo]

Cats only turn blue when they're about to explode and leave a pair of smoking shoes

[clever zealot]

Best blessings for db shotgun?

[ornate bone]

scattershot/man-stopper
death spitter/both barrels

1st one is for blazing piety

[bitter anvil]

why she hold the flip phone like that?

[hexed igloo]

Why you hold other men like that?

[visual stream]

My cat has been replaced by a gremlinoid in disguise

[hexed igloo]

This is my cat she would rather starve and eat dirt out of the pot plant than eat Chef brand wet food

[hard nexus]

@fleet zealot

[visual stream]

That sounds believable

Mine is always trying to eat plastic scraps

[frozen kernel]

Cats are notorious for "There is food right there, but it's not what I want so effectively it's rotten"

I had a cat that used to hunt for Smarties wrappers in the trash

[frosty herald]

my cat solely eats plain cat food and refuses to eat anything else even a goddamn wet food can or a piece of chicken

[hexed igloo]

She went for a week eating a few bites of kibble and floor crumbs when there was perfectly good wet food there

[frozen kernel]

Also had a cat that would rather starve to death than eat out of the same bowl as him lmao

We gave her a setup in my mom's room to separate them

She was my first cat that played fetch

[frozen kernel]

HOONTER, TRYNA HOONT?

[hexed igloo]

My cat is also obsessed with the caps from powerade bottles specifically, if she's anywhere in the house I can tap one on my chair and she'll come flying home the stairs so fast that she slides around

[frozen kernel]

Aww that's awesome

[hexed igloo]

She's a fuckin weirdo sometimes

[grizzled aspen]

Learn to flick the bottle caps so she can chase them better.

[hexed igloo]

Dw I already be doing that

We have like 20 of them around so I'll sometimes just gather a handful to toss

[frozen kernel]

There were a gorillion milk caps under the fridge at the old house

Was a happy memory when cleaning the place out lmao

[hexed igloo]

Bro we pretty often just go damn where all ur bottle caps go, and slide the broom handle under the fridge and pull 15 bottle caps out

[grizzled aspen]

No I don't mean simply tossing them around, you can hold the cap between your thumb and middle finger and flick it across the room at mach stupid.

[frozen kernel]

It's like when the maintenance people would throw all the tennis balls down off the roof in school

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine you're about to flick something with your middle finger, now put the bottle cap between your thumb and middle finger. Flick as normal and you'll send the cap across the room.

[hexed igloo]

Yeah I know what you mean lmao I used to flick Gatorade caps across a classroom to hit people in the back of the head

You can put some good spin on them to make them glide if you just hold between thumb and knuckle and squeeze it in the right way

[lime rover]

Hello fellow zealots

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/charborg-cat-cat-waving-waving-hi-gif-8437277773572269986

[lime rover]

https://tenor.com/view/quby-high-five-wave-pentol-qubysani-gif-19935273

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1340192194929361009/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[lime rover]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[lime rover]

You're an odd fellow

I like thy, have an lollipop

[misty nova]

The Crusher mastery skin

[acoustic dune]

i do not enjoy a cylinder plate of sugar

hurt me teeth
prob

[misty nova]

You apply flavor to your saliva then drink it
Let that sink in

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-gif-11785532389901559578

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sink-cute-pet-bath-gif-17353374

[spare talon]

new reginald video
oh hey thats me

[solar gorge]

you were reginald all along, devastating

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-choice-words-joker-gif-25761155

Anyways Cole famous
Remember us

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/x2g2wqCXZaI?si=zkzi9YE__OoNWukV

[hard nexus]

he already was, he had a reddit post

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[crimson python]

In the Blazing Piety tree, does the crit buff in Righteous Warrior apply at all times or only during Fury?

[hard nexus]

when fury is active

[crimson python]

Damn

[fleet zealot]

not really a damn, fury is up the majority of the time/all the time

[hard nexus]

keeping blazing piety active is really easy, especially with fury rising

you essentially have it all the time except during elevators and airlocks

[obsidian prairie]

The duration of fury is refreshed by something dying vaguely near you

[crimson python]

The duration of Fury is refreshed if you kill even one enemy or do you have to wait for the next 25 kills?

[fleet zealot]

it's not you killing

it's anything dying "near" you, including horde, and with the right extension, it's also stacks up on crit

[obsidian prairie]

Something dies within X distance and it refreshes

[crimson python]

Wow. Thats nuts

[obsidian prairie]

We should see if it can refresh off of friendly fire

[crimson python]

Thanks for the info

[lime rover]

You're supposed to slowly let it desolve and flavour your saliva

[hushed knoll]

Hi Carpets

[fleet zealot]

weak, cronch that pop

[pale spindle]

Frye bad news, teh 7900 XT had a shipping price of $40 so I canceled the order 😔

I decided to get a Hellhound 7800xt and hang into is when it gets delivered around March so I can see if I can buy a 5070 TI or 9070 XT

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO I HATE THIS

[ebon bobcat]

You hate caterpillar cat? Shame on thee.

[hushed knoll]

Cats can’t be caterpillars

[ebon bobcat]

Why not? Are you a cientist? Pathetic

You see, science don't exist, we just follow the path which the Emperor makes

He leads us on the dark of the space, to victory and to supremacy

With that said, no cats should be caterpillars

[hexed igloo]

If you're getting a 5070 you might want to bundle it with a fire extinguisher and a set of smoke alarms

[hushed knoll]

I am just speaking truth

[hexed igloo]

Running 600w through thin cables has a habit of reaching 150°C and melting everything

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[clever swan]

5070 doesnt need 600 watts, probably

[mighty root]

@pale spindle if you’re investing in a 50 series make sure you’re power supply can handle it

[hexed igloo]

I don't remember who did it, but someone did note wires hitting that 150° mark under normal load

[white mason]

Wats the best blessings for relic blade? Wrath n devastating strike?

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[hexed igloo]

I personally would just prefer to not have a molotov in my pc

[mighty root]

Narp rampage and cranial

With unyielding and elites

[hexed igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/gnarp-gif-17674531964713888266

[mighty root]

Dump mobility @white mason

[white mason]

Thx

[pale spindle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[mighty root]

Yarp

[pale spindle]

im 99% sure if the 9070 XT is in stock I will grab that

[mighty root]

This is why I’m upgrading mine

[hexed igloo]

Just get the 9070

[orchid cipher]

50 series puts way more into the cables than 40 series did

[hexed igloo]

Yet it still is having funny cables hot enough to sear your eyes from looking at it

At this point they should just have a dedicated wall plug for gpus

[pale spindle]

i have an 850 PS

[mighty root]

Real

My new rig isn’t gonna be throttled at all

[remote lark]

Noobstone.......

[mighty root]

It will probably be the last thing I build

[mighty root]

[mighty root]

It’s wise to make the upgrade now I doubt am6 and ddr6 will be available this year or years to come

[pale spindle]

nah im good

[mighty root]

I remember you saying you wanted to wait

[mighty root]

Blud is waiting on a myth

He yearns for the next platform

[pale spindle]

what myth? I dont want to upgrade

[mighty root]

He is content

[pale spindle]

ill upgrade when I want

hell, even when AM6 comes out I probably wont upgrade until much later

[remote lark]

noobka..

[mighty root]

My build isn’t even throttled or bottlenecked I just want it future proofed

[pale spindle]

if I have problems with later titles ill upgrade

[mighty root]

I’m just upgrading for funsies

I love blowing money on useless things

I love consuming slop

[pale spindle]

i only play 3 games rn since I have been busy

1.) ZZZ/HSR

2.) Darktide

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii/clips/jHhUqFIDHNZQlgEQH?invite=cr-MSxwTW8sMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[median steeple]

It's peak

[mighty root]

@remote lark you asked for this yesterday I think

[copper hawk]

wish there was somewhere i could go to buy cuman clothes

lmfao i can see right through it

[mighty root]

[copper hawk]

although it's peak, srry u had to deal w that fyre lmfao dude is such a cunt

[mighty root]

Dude it’s fine

[copper hawk]

Wonder if any of his irl friends or fam know what he is

[mighty root]

It’s really funny

[obsidian prairie]

You think he still talks to them?

[lime rover]

What the fuck?

You can't ever convince me behavior like that is normal

[frosty herald]

its very normal behaviour for tanner sadly

called someone a worthless rat because they had childhood memory loss from surpressing emotions

[lime rover]

The person from the screenshot?

[frosty herald]

someone else

oh you mean the dude typing k.ys thats tanner

[lime rover]

Why the f*ck are people so evil? No wonder everyone is.... trying to end it and stuff

[mighty root]

I will never talk about the freaky tanner incident

[frosty herald]

tanner BD and his VRchat escapades

[mighty root]

I’ll take that with me to the grave

[mighty root]

Real xe loves vr chat

[mighty root]

It doesn’t bother me big dawg

I’m pretty sure that was because I failed a clutch

I must take more lvl 15s into aruic male

[frosty herald]

first of all why are you playing with him lmfao

[lime rover]

Well I'm glad... it does bother me a significant bit since I am not entirely well mentally and I can't stand people who treat mental health as an joke

(Sorry it turned into a vent)

[mighty root]

He was my first exposure to “meta” in darktide I hit him up and we played

Fyre lore I’m in like 3 of his vids

[frosty herald]

play with reginald or some other people its way way more healthy since you wont have some grown ass dude whining in your comms

[mighty root]

That was back when i was on Xbox and I was still fresh 30 and was finally grasping darktide

[lime rover]

I just reached level 21 but I kind of sit back and help carry easier lobbies

[signal spoke]

Wtf LMAO

Bros most normal reaction behaviour

[lime rover]

Some people shouldn't be allowed on discord tbh

[mighty root]

Now I carry most lobbies im in and can clutch consistently, thank you creature spawner for helping me solo bosses including mixed hoards and deamonhosts

[gray ice]

he's evolving

[signal spoke]

Man fighting an entire planet army

[mighty root]

I’ve been told that my gameplay gives people motion sickness

[signal spoke]

Why is that?

[lime rover]

I just like helping fresh players by fighting with them... but I don't carry carry that won't teach them so I just do my own thing and let them fight the bulk. And if something goes wrong (which always happens) I step in and clutch

[obsidian prairie]

I assume you're really twitchy or something

[signal spoke]

Or flick too much

[gray ice]

I flick a ton now thanks to apex now too but i can't imagine it giving anyone motion sickness unless your DPI is at 10000 or sumn lol

[mighty root]

One moment

I like to collect theses

I have one of a dude saying thank you for the carry and another asking me if I solo for fun

[signal spoke]

Now I am really curious to see in clips
If theres any

[clever swan]

damn i want to collect my glazing pics too now

[mighty root]

One dude said “why are you punching the dh you’re gonna die” “DID YOU SOLO IT?”

[gray ice]

i mostly collect clips of stupid things I do or happening to people

[clever swan]

i have one at least

[mighty root]

Dude glazing pics make me smile because it shows my growth and what looks simple for me the normal player is overwhelmed

[lime rover]

Now I wanna play with u guys once

[mighty root]

I just charge into ragers and reapers and live

[remote lark]

fyre glaze session

[mighty root]

Chat pin this

[mighty root]

Where’s your glaze pics

[signal spoke]

[mighty root]

Fun fact I didn’t think of soloing until the people started asking if I could

[remote lark]

why would I clutter my pc by taking a pic every game

[mighty root]

real

Can I get a true?

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-gif-26479397

[mighty root]

@signal spoke @lime rover the best way I learned was by playing with low levels on high difficulties it was a trial by fire but it was either I learn how to continue the match or I die and it’s over

When I duoed with Cole I was still a noob but now I’m enlightened

[mighty root]

Tidevaina

[mighty root]

I tried to give this 🔥 but he has me blocked

I don’t even know if I’ve ever talked to you

[signal spoke]

[lime rover]

How it feels to get hit by a dreg rager

[uneven galleon]

Me and who?

[ebon bobcat]

Another furry

[uneven galleon]

Ew would you imagine

[ebon bobcat]

Yeah man, imagine talking to a furry

Would be crazy

[modern lintel]

evil

[ebon bobcat]

[placid fiber]

I am not 100% sure what I am supposed to do with the mk2 taxe... all I know is the push attack seems to do the same damage as the heavies...

[uneven galleon]

Neeko-core

[fleet zealot]

develop carpal tunnel

[obsidian prairie]

Pa->heavy loop against horde/ragers

[placid fiber]

Jokes on you... I mained bandit in ror1... carpal tunnel had to become me

[obsidian prairie]

light spam against singles

Use PA after FotF because it actually does slightly more than the heavies for whatever reason

[placid fiber]

It might have lower damage, but, higher finesse, maybe?

idk

[placid fiber]

wait... both heavies on the mk7 do the exact same damage to carapce? :/

[fleet zealot]

oh yea lights are better vs cara than heavies on taxes in general

for dps at least but maybe for raw hit idk i hatet eh weapons

[placid fiber]

I find it really counterintuitive that the heavy 1 on the mk7 taxe(a cleaving heavy) does the same damaqge to crushers as the heavy 2(a downward strike)... :/

wait the light 1 does more damage to crushers...

without crit, just a weakspot hit with no buffs

[misty nova]

Yeah same profile

Often true to most taxes
Often, not rechecking them rn

[placid fiber]

At least on the mk2 taxe the heavies are cleaving and the lights are strikedown...

At least it seems normal for non-carapace...

[placid fiber]

So: carpal tunnel tf out of single targets, special to stagger anybody, heavies or push attacks for hordes/misc, and push attack after using chastise? <.<

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/menhera-chan-menhera-love-anime-gif-24076557

[frosty herald]

how did you come back lmao

[placid fiber]

They embraced cheese as their lord and savior (idki)

[fleet zealot]

craving meatball sub

firehouse 🤤

[hard nexus]

who

[frosty herald]

Lamb

[hard nexus]

they got banned? when

[median steeple]

I think 2ish weeks ago?

[hard nexus]

what for

[frosty herald]

@clever swan speak 🗣️

[hard nexus]

yet dorn gets perma banned for naming and shaming someone who was harassing women

the cycle continues

[median steeple]

wait I was thinking of someone else LMAO

[hard nexus]

epic FAAAIIIIILLLLL

[frosty herald]

Goober

[median steeple]

Im eep

[clever swan]

appealed it

[frosty herald]

Bro came back victorious from his battle against sourgoat

[clever swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544034067855966230/1332211601096314930/oWYSI8r.gif
pictured: before the appeal

[mighty root]

So glad sour goat is gone

[median steeple]

Yeah I was thinking of goat

[clever swan]

similar names so it makes sense to confuse us

[hard nexus]

still don’t know what happened

[clever swan]

just the same old same old weird fetish posting in general and i stood up against it

[frosty herald]

Whole lotta yapping and got caught in the crossfire probably

[mighty root]

I hope he and that other rage baiter suffer in malice

[median steeple]

Too many Bovidae in this discord

[mighty root]

[frosty herald]

Sentence goontiders to havoc 40 no overtoughness/bubble shield

[spare dome]

thats not a sentence that is my genuine desire

[mighty root]

Pretty sure sour only played malice

[modern lintel]

fate worse then death being malice locked

[spare talon]

Havoc 40 psyker only melee only/no guns or staves, no smite, no ds or knife, no bubble regen node, no soulblaze vent

[spare dome]

jsat will have it done in two hours

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[hard nexus]

ohg

[hard nexus]

didn’t say no EE, easy

[spare talon]

I was doing it with him
It fucking sucked

[spare talon]

It's the hardest thing I've ever attempted in the game

[spare dome]

maybe its u guys who suck

[spare talon]

If you're being shot at and ee drops, you die instantly

[spare dome]

yea, LOL, its pretty precarious

can always run deflector on your swords and just turtle through

but well if two guns shoot from two different angles you still die

[spare talon]

Also cuz psyker is so weighted into warp shit, the most reliable method of toughness gen was fucking EMPOWERER PSIONICS TRIGGERS

[spare dome]

FGS with Warp Slice does do multiple EE procs the same way Assail does so you can maintain invuln for the entire flight time + 1 second

[spare talon]

with a 15 second cooldown

[spare dome]

hey im spitballin here

[frozen kernel]

Asking the important questions

[carmine falcon]

surely this wont be ass cancer

[ebon bobcat]

I just love that the last is just "Snipers."

[carmine falcon]

SNIPERS

[ebon bobcat]

"Sniper good job mate, killing some ogryns."

[dire bough]

What are some nice weapons I could try out? I'm a beginner with my first character at level 14, so far I've just been trying out random blue weapons that drop

[ebon bobcat]

Recon and flamethrower

[mint brook]

question, what if loner was reworked into "you and allies in coherency deal +25% more backstab damage?

[ebon bobcat]

4 loners

[dire bough]

do ranged weapons function well with Zealot?

[mint brook]

help, i am being stalked

[ebon bobcat]

Yeah, its used for range targets

[mint brook]

listen, i pay the cheese tax, i just need more time

[dire bough]

ah okay I barely pull out my guns I just run straight towards the snipers

[undone pewter]

Aura's don't stack

[ebon bobcat]

But what if

[ebon bobcat]

Cheese tax? Thats just racism against the skavens

Why you simpletons think we praise cheese or something

[spare talon]

Ranged weapons typically fill the role your melee cannot
Melee bad at armor? Your gun can pick up the slack with a bolter, bolt pistol or revolver
Melee great at single target dmg of all kinds but just sucks at hordes? Flamer is right there
Melee has terrible boss damage? Bolter and laspistol

[frosty herald]

Bolter relic blade is a peak combo

[obsidian prairie]

Hit em with the crusader special

[spare talon]

It's much easier to construct builds like this if you take throwing knives, because they instantly fill the role of killing specialists so now you can use your gun for whatever else you may need it for

[mint brook]

well why the fuck you praise bells? seems backwards to me

[ebon bobcat]

Why do you praise a dead body?

Bells seems more fine than what you humans praise

[bitter anvil]

A rat here?

[ebon bobcat]

Skaven

[bitter anvil]

Rat here!

[carmine falcon]

easiest malestrom ever
i joined a sweatlord trio late
billion dmg bubble psyker
flamer zealot
shout vet shouting every 2 second
and me with bolter and relic

[mint brook]

thats different

[carmine falcon]

i played for like 5 minutes?

[ebon bobcat]

I'am judging you, since you are judging me

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-minos-prime-judgement-minos-prime-ultrakill-gif-5728374530149769385

[mint brook]

fair enough

[ebon bobcat]

Nobody knows what fair means anymore

[hard nexus]

just dodge dummy

[mint brook]

does fair have to be fair?

[bitter anvil]

[ebon bobcat]

Do you have to be alive? No? Well thats a shame

[bitter anvil]

Quarreling

[bitter anvil]

“NAAAAARGGH, BY SIGMAR, ITS A TALKING RAT! AM GOING INSANNNE!!!”

[dire bough]

oh yeah that makes sense
What are some good combos? (I don't have a favorite melee weapon yet, still experimenting)

Tbh the worst time I had so far was with the combat knife, but that's probably coz I had no idea how to use it

[hybrid jewel]

Just heavy into heads or push atk into heads.

Not kidding btw. Is heavily simplified for dealing with crushers. But even on a really shoddy setup, it's 4 hits to kill.

[dire bough]

took me a bunch of hits to kill even trash mobs but I'll try stabbing heads ig

[mint brook]

i shall be embraced by the emperors will

[hybrid jewel]

Is knoife, if you ain't hitting heads, you are doing it wrong.

Also, mk6 is superior.

[dire bough]

Gotcha
Does every weapon have an objectively best mark or is it personal preference?

[hybrid jewel]

Some are former, some are latter...

Then you have shredder autopistol. Just throw it at your nearest heretic and it'll do more.

It's that bad. Only has supression and nothing else. 40 shots to kill something is really bad.

But like FGS and Relic is pure taste related. They function equally well.

[placid fiber]

assuming it doesn't turn to dust on contact with the heretic

[carmine falcon]

EZ carry
ignore the dmg taken