zealot-class

[remote lark]

you don't

or you can use this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[carmine falcon]

well to make things easier im using your relic blade build

[hexed igloo]

Take a photo of your monitor with your phone, make sure your camera is all greasy and fingermarked

[carmine falcon]

crit stelwart with annoit and purge
bolter with shattering and pinning
relic with carnial and rampage
1 stam curio 2 toughness (zealot chat fixed me curios)

[remote lark]

if u take shatter you'll get more value from puncture
shatter buffs bleed substantially

means you can drop annoint and purge and take twbs if you want, might help you take less damage

[carmine falcon]

nvm i dont evne know what i have

[remote lark]

try the relic blade with a martyr build

[carmine falcon]

yeah i took a lot of dmg cause my movement is kinda ass still but its getting better (slowly)

[remote lark]

martyr turns it into a blender

[carmine falcon]

do you have one
i like your stelwart crit one

also for scoreboard i didnt set it up so it doesnt show total kills but i got 468 lesser, 29 disablers and 37 specials and fkton of bossdmg

[remote lark]

this would be a comfy build i think
no crit or disdain but thats okay cause martyr with twbs is pretty safe and deals more damage than the crit build if you can avoid dying

or you can drop twbs for disdain and annoint

[carmine falcon]

i can get used to this in lower diffs first cause my playstyle is play stupid and get saved by fotf

[remote lark]

every zealot ever

[carmine falcon]

its too good of a crutch

[remote lark]

i only played zealot for a long time, but then i touched psyker

dps psyker is ridiculous in aurics

[carmine falcon]

i started leveling up a psyker and vet but very slowly

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jDjaurRaI8iPKb6NW?invite=cr-MSxERGcsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA
i can do this on repeat and alternate between my broken ass sword + scriers and my knives with empowered psionics

addicting

[carmine falcon]

yeah clips like these made me level up a psyker
i thought the psyker is just a funny mage but they can do so many things

[visual stream]

you are smooth cool

[remote lark]

Psykers the best class in the game right now. Zealots easier and more consistently able to carry cause of until death and stupid tdr talents, but just from a kill potential pov I think soykers the highest.

[visual stream]

Soyker glass cannon, zealot 50/50 damage and survivability

I prefer zealot for clutch potential alone

[carmine falcon]

they just look the most varied and fun to play ignoring dps and all that nerd shieieit

and their tree doesn't look as linear as zealot

[visual stream]

Does Martyr's Purpose take 1% max health or 1 health for its ticks

[grizzled aspen]

1%

[visual stream]

Yet another reason it is dogshit

Can not even take triple health curios to make it useful in a meme build

[misty helm]

it is time for Rat Gaming

[frosty herald]

one tip

[obsidian quail]

...i dont know why....

[frosty herald]

grind this out in sedition so you wont have teammates for the first 5 minutes in a mission

get the backstab crossair mod too

[lean lark]

@frosty herald all that just for a measly 40 dmg (4 heavy stab knifes worth of dmg while mounting)🥹

[frosty herald]

god DAMN thats a risky offset

[lean lark]

it was calculated

[frosty herald]

1 frame later and it wouldve been a cart lmao

[lean lark]

that's why I dodged backwards instead of taking a couple steps. So I wouldn't have any possible margin of error

[hexed igloo]

Arkveld is so fucking cool man but why they throwing master rank mons at us with starter gear

[frosty herald]

lol lmao this is high rank arkveld which is the chained version

[lean lark]

if it was an actual master rank you'd get oneshot regardless of move

[frosty herald]

theres even scarier things coming in the title updates and i shudder to think what capcom is cooking up for master rank

[hexed igloo]

Lala barina looks fucking dope

[lean lark]

You'd be chillaxing like I am if you did a sub 15 min fatalis solo run

[hexed igloo]

I still haven't finished world

Got my ass beat into quitting by furious rajang

[lean lark]

The clock is ticking yams, time to hit up fatalis

[frosty herald]

i never even got past alatreon cause i dont want to have to grind a lot to get a working endgame set

[lean lark]

if you don't want to grind a lot just cheat your mats in

[frosty herald]

i did beat ruiner nergigante i dont wanna cheat in mats cause thats taking the easy way out

[hexed igloo]

Idk what the deco situation is for wilds, but hopefully it ain't world type shi

[lean lark]

ruiner nergi is a good training dummy

[frosty herald]

i also beat tempered ruiner nergigante

[frosty herald]

offensive jewels like crit boost crit draw etc go on weapons and defensive stuff like speed eater defense and stun resist goes on armor

[lean lark]

so you don't want to get past alatreon because it's too much grinding, but you also don't want to cheat in mats to progress and fully beat mhw?

[hexed igloo]

That's not so bad, I'm just hoping the grind isn't like world

[frosty herald]

granted weapons now also have skills tied to them and get multiple and level up skills as you upgrade the weapons themselves

a low rank rathalos hammer might have slugger but a rarity 8 one might have slugger 3 fire attack 2

[silver stag]

I cant get past Alatreon cause im bad lol, i think i only attempted Fatalis twice before i stopped

[frosty herald]

i heard chargeblade elemental values were nerfed alot for alatreon

[lean lark]

Alatreon solo is understandable (DPS check+ skill check) but fatalis is quite literally the perfect example of trial&error

[silver stag]

Which sucks, cause i need a couple pieces of alatreon and fatalis

[lean lark]

it took me like two weeks of trying different strats and builds to beat fatalis for the first time, then on I just improved on it

[frosty herald]

also i cant get back after using chargeblade in wilds alongside hammer the moveset flows so so much better

[lean lark]

I could've just did coop fatalis to grab as many mats to make some fatalis gear but that's easy mode

[frosty herald]

you can also craft fatalis armor by using your palico with plunderblade and get a lucky fatalis evil eye

[silver stag]

Think when i finally got Fatalis unlocked, cause i pretty much gave up on Alatreon, no one was doing Fatalis anymore

I like hunting with other people

[frosty herald]

dont get me started on kulve taroth and safi jiva cause ive never even got them to the second area

[lean lark]

what a noob

[frosty herald]

i really dislike siege fights

[silver stag]

Kek, i love killing them fuckers

[potent gate]

Is that solo?

[lean lark]

safi is lit as fuck, kulve is ok mostly just the areas

[frosty herald]

good luck soloing safi jiva and kulve taroth cause its nigh impossible

[potent gate]

Safi just wear sunglasses

Safi solo isn't that bad with hbg even solo tbh.

[silver stag]

Once knocked off Kulve's horn covers in the first area with cluster bombs, big bombs and cannons after putting her to sleep lol

Everyone just bombed the shit out of her, it was great

[lean lark]

I've done both 😇 safi swaxe kulve bow

[frosty herald]

i could probably beat safi jiva kulve taroth and behemot with hbg cluster spam

[lean lark]

safi weapons looked cool

[silver stag]

Behemoth, fucking christ

[potent gate]

I liked their functions as weapons as well when they were meta in basically every build

[silver stag]

Extremoth was something else, cant wait to see what bullshit crossover monsters they got in Wilds lol

[silver stag]

Good luck with Behemoth

[frosty herald]

Bahamut LMFAO

[lean lark]

behemoth was overhyped for me honestly, the fight was easier than I expected. On insect glaive it was just free tho that thing fucks him up

[potent gate]

I think Extremoth was made harder by other people not playing the mechanics. I think I found Ancient Leshen way harder since I never had used SnS by that point

[hexed igloo]

Leshen is such a dogshit fight ngl

[silver stag]

Perhaps

[lean lark]

I hate Shit n Shit, such a boring weapon

[copper hawk]

Eugh 2morrow will be Stressful wish me luck Glooperz

[potent gate]

It's now my main 😭

[lean lark]

I don't deny it's effectiveness but at the same time come on bro either play lance or dual blades at that point

[silver stag]

Put the giant turtle mountain in, take five days to kill it

You think Capcom will finally do a fucking Lost Planet 1/2 crossover and put a giant akrid in for us to fight?

[frosty herald]

arch tempered ancient leshen has more health than fatalis

[potent gate]

I don't want to use LS cos LS, GS is just too strong imo.

Ranged to me feels like I am disassociated from the world.

So I like Swag and CB but they kinda fucked the hitstop in Wilds. It doesn't feel the same hitting a SAED or ZSD etc

[frosty herald]

hitstop is fixed in the full build

[potent gate]

o

[silver stag]

Let us fight the 6 legged salamander from Lost Planet 2 in monster hunter world as an event, give us some armor and heavybowgun gun from Lost Planet

[potent gate]

My friend will probs be playing CB so i guess I would play SnS or Swaxe then

[lean lark]

Wonder if it's gonna be like fire turtle one (forgot name, the guy at the end of low rank) for bahamut since it's size is literally as big as the planet

[frosty herald]

im like 90% sure bahamut will be in wilds cause the FF team said that their collab with MH was dissapointing and they wanna do another one with yoshi P teasing at bahamut

[potent gate]

The thing is, if they make Bahamut, all I really think of (unless they make an entirely new skeleton) is Shagaru Magala

[hexed igloo]

I hope they bring back zinogre haven't seen him in a few games

[potent gate]

Fuck off with Zinogre

[frosty herald]

use ff16 bahamut

[potent gate]

I cannot understand why people would like Zinogre

[lean lark]

stygian zinogre for maximum swag (if they bring him back and longsword becomes a lightsaber I'll become an LS main)

[hexed igloo]

I hope they make every monster into zinogre variants

[potent gate]

I think Zinogre is actually my most hated monster?

[silver stag]

What armor and weapon would they give us for killing it?

[silver stag]

We getting a new monster that basically is Zinogre 2.0 and then they're putting in Zinogre and 5 other zinogre variants

[potent gate]

Even truer critical fire element. You do so much fire damage, it becomes plasma

[silver stag]

That isnt a weapon or armor

[potent gate]

not with that attitude

[frosty herald]

both clive and joshua's outfits as armor

[lean lark]

I hope they give us a cool ass swaxe

[hexed igloo]

Nah but my actual return monster I wanna see is odogaron

[silver stag]

They're alright lookin

[potent gate]

Odogaron is soliid, I rate that

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-world-vale-capcorn-odogaron-rotten-gif-10889376

[hexed igloo]

I fw odo so hard I fought that guy so much I could hitless him

[silver stag]

Love Odagarons Death Ronin look in wilds, would love that armor again

[hexed igloo]

Death Garon is peak fucking drip

[placid fiber]

gif searches when they don't fail you

[frosty herald]

the coolest thing would be an ultima chargeblade with clive's eikon abilities for the shield

[lean lark]

I hope the other version of arkveld is even more brutal

[frosty herald]

🤫

[hexed igloo]

I hope the other version of arkveld is zinogre

[frosty herald]

do not discuss the leaks in wilds🤫

[lean lark]

I love the way its turf war with Rey Dua works, he just grabs Rey Dua with his chain and slams him into the ground

[tawdry leaf]

I love when until death pops from one small fry and then you get no hp from it😭 😭

[potent gate]

Crimson glow Arkveld "ambush"

[hexed igloo]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I NEED VALSTRAX IN WILDS PLEASE GOD PLEASE

[lean lark]

what leak? It's just logic, we fight chained arkveld so there must be other versions. Simple.

[frosty herald]

very true but you cant be too careful

[hexed igloo]

Bondage arkveld

[potent gate]

Primordial versions could be fun too.

Primordial Espinas xd

[hexed igloo]

Valstrax gotta be my favorite monster design in any game ever what the fuck do you mean dragon with jets that it uses like lasers what

[potent gate]

Despite the benchmarking being kinda ass, I might pick it up anyway on release

[potent gate]

Everyone deserves to experience a Valstrax ambush for the first time with no knowlege beforehand

[hexed igloo]

I also know it's like not gonna happen most likely but I'm praying for accel axe

[placid fiber]

The only question I have about monster hunter is if you're hunting down all the monsters, how do they have time to breed n make more of them? lol

[potent gate]

There's a lot of them out there

[frosty herald]

so basically we do population control and the story hunts only happen to 1 monster canonically

[placid fiber]

Ah

[frosty herald]

stuff like black dragons will be killed on sight because they can destroy ecosystems by existing

[potent gate]

As for the elder dragons, you have the whole ElDeR CrOsSinG bs from world

[hexed igloo]

The world story was so ass 💀 I love it

Fuck handler gang tho I dragged out my time with the serious handler for so long

[potent gate]

Fsfs

Handler was so ugly that it kept me soft so I could focus on gameplay tho

[frosty herald]

i would say shantien and white fatalis are equally as destructive

[hexed igloo]

Fuck this bitch and her "we did it!" No the fuck "we" did not

[placid fiber]

fsfs: fucking stupid fat shark

[lean lark]

I bought the Mr X skin for my handler so I was actually getting comedic relief rather than just annoying yapping in the background

[hexed igloo]

I put her in a bikini

[potent gate]

I just hope they can keep a stable lineup of more difficult monsters.

The issue with playing Monster Hunter as a series for so long is that you're used to the monster movesets which is what kept the game more "difficult"

[frosty herald]

nu udra seems to shake that up in a very heavy way

[hexed igloo]

Hopefully they don't just give all of the bigger stuff funny oneshot attacks

[potent gate]

how soes

[frosty herald]

octopus that can attack from all directions around it

[potent gate]

ooo

[atomic matrix]

am I crazy or the Thunderhammer feels...not thunderhamer-ish? the weapon not only struggles to kill crushers on its own, it feels quite uninpactful when the crusher while trading damage still has the CC to make you feel like a faster, more deadly ogryn

[plush estuary]

have you tried using the best perks/blessings/talents for it?

[north sedge]

you have a bad hammer if it can't one shot a crusher

[plush estuary]

it can 1 shot every enemy even some bosses in some situations

[atomic matrix]

maybe, what am I supposed to aim for?

was running it on a IJ build, no marthyrdom to see how it felt

[north sedge]

thrust slaughterer, cara/unyielding

ij is fine

dmg dump hell yea

[plush estuary]

unsure about the cara perk

[atomic matrix]

yeah, but with max stacks it left the crusher with a sliver of HP

[plush estuary]

oops

[vocal pulsar]

umm can you source this

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mai-shiranui-mai-mai-sfvi-mai-sf6-street-fighter-gif-11023386853350055072

[vocal pulsar]

can you source this too? ?? ???

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-good-bone-crushin'-the-ghost-of-christmas-way-future-sam-richardson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-you're-good-at-crushing-bones-gif-5193831507752409228

[violet hornet]

I've been running Unyielding / elites but I haven't tested if I'm missing a breakpoint

[potent gate]

I run cara unyielding I think with crit

[vocal pulsar]

i prefer cara/flak

[violet hornet]

ew, crithammer 🤢

[potent gate]

Crit hammer is fine, people just don't know how to play it

[north sedge]

🤔

[potent gate]

BONK

[plush estuary]

crit hammer is fine, it just does less numbers than martyr and IJ

[lean cairn]

i like crit crusher

[potent gate]

You just use chastise for cc cos psykers are going to kill trash for you anyway

[merry flume]

crusher is the trash clearing weapon

[tawny walrus]

Chat, is this peak?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e2a87f1-3af5-4821-a859-78ae86e5ffab/avast-ye-blaggarfs

[fleet zealot]

Why is it deadly accurate puncture

And not surgical deadly accurate

Or surgical puncture

Or puncture runNgun

[remote lark]

no

[fleet zealot]

Deadly accurate only works if it’s a crit and a weakspot and without surgical you can’t guarantee you’ll make use of it, piety just makes it a coinflip

[tawny walrus]

So surgical got it.

[remote lark]

look at my pinned build for relic blade
it can take piety/stalwart and enduring and do better than ij

also drop wrath for cranial+Rampage, you only need wrath in havoc

[tawny walrus]

This one?

#zealot-class message

[remote lark]

.

This one.

[tawny walrus]

Perfect. Thanks

I'll leave my IJ build with caxe instead

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[remote lark]

noobtuals...

[merry flume]

are you a melee psyker yet or are you still a staff noob

[tawny walrus]

I'll probably drop sniper resistance on the curio. I haven't been hit by one in a long time

And put revive speed or some other bs

[sullen forge]

Staff grub or playing the actual game it’s intended, call it

[remote lark]

Yeah I tried melee psyker and I'm addicted

I have a rlly fun assail fgs psionics builds

[merry flume]

always the grub option...

[remote lark]

no I use recon

un fish react me right now...

[sullen forge]

0 mention of the 3 cool options……

[merry flume]

laspistol, db, revo

[sullen forge]

Honorable mention, Vigilant

[merry flume]

laspistol goes so hard for any class but esp psyker

dd making my walk speed near sprint speed....and they took away laspistols innate run n gun..........

[sullen forge]

Only if they didn’t cause that would’ve been insanely stupid lmao

[merry flume]

why, nobody uses laspistol now

[sullen forge]

Even though it’s still pretty good

[hard nexus]

buff mk10!!!

[merry flume]

MkX has no utility at all, there's no situation where it outperforms it's base version outside of stagger

[placid fiber]

Yeah, screw the mk3 evsicerator (joking)

[hard nexus]

hits u with rock

[sullen forge]

It’s funny as hell cause I’ve been fine with how lukewarm the MKX is and I’m still all for a buff

[placid fiber]

deserved lol

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-truth-spongebob-truth-nuke-gif-1296874394411357781

[hard nexus]

gale moment

[sullen forge]

Trvth Nvker Gale

[placid fiber]

How it feels to get hit by the orphan of kos in bloodborne...

[merry flume]

just dodge...

[sullen forge]

Parry…

Or perhaps even block…

[placid fiber]

Does bloodborne even have shields? I can't remember, I've never played it

[carmine falcon]

sorry only flamer,bolter, plasma are allowed

[frosty herald]

Need a kunitsu-gami collab in wilds so bad

[carmine falcon]

damn i forgot kunitsu gami is actually out

[hexed igloo]

It has 1 and the game tells you to not use it

Actually it has 2

[remote lark]

noobtuals and noobleophobia

[placid fiber]

How about saving hyrule as gannondorf, in the a link to the past roguelite I have? >.>

[silver stag]

Two? I only remember the one

[hexed igloo]

There's the shitass wooden one, and one with really high nonphsy resist but jack shit phys def(dlc)

[remote lark]

I play scriers psionics with assail

I then take recon or whatever unless I quickplay into a brute mission, in which case I take trauma to knock them over

Like 90% of my ranged damage comes from assail though

[remote lark]

Explode

[placid fiber]

:3

[remote lark]

remove cleave cap and keep its current damage distribution so that it trails off after the 4th enemy and it's instantly as good as relic blade

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[sullen forge]

Smoking that Vig Auto Gunker pack and denying the EStance Veteran there job at all

[carmine falcon]

where do you find these rare creatures known as "estance veterans"

[carmine falcon]

oh and lumi the martydom build is the funniest shit ever

[sullen forge]

Once every 15 matches

[remote lark]

me living in a world where I don't play veteran

[remote lark]

emperor powered lawnmower

[sullen forge]

Also I am that E.Stance veteran cause it’s way more fucking enjoyable using VA with MF and Tunnel Vision on it

[carmine falcon]

it might fit my "Style" more cause im shit at movement anyway might as tankmaxx

[sullen forge]

Shit let’s me sharpshoot AND be aggressive

[remote lark]

maybe then you won't die to gunners

[sullen forge]

Holy fucking shit let it go bro

[carmine falcon]

i have no idea how it works but it made me tanky af

[remote lark]

[frosty herald]

Exe bolter vet

[remote lark]

Ammo vacuum

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/gore-magala-magala-gore-shithead-gif-26880156

[carmine falcon]

did hersey malestrom to get used to it

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[silver stag]

There was one in the dlc? I really cant recall

[merry flume]

me when it took one attempt to beat h40 and there was little to no voice comms 🙂‍↕️

[remote lark]

I honestly prefer auric hi shock to all maelstrom other than 3veg or i-ii

The scab only no ammo one is fun too

[sullen forge]

Lights out Monstro is pretty fucking funny 🚬

[sullen forge]

Psycho repeatedly getting fucked over by spawns the entire time

[merry flume]

how many gunluggers have you see in no ammo maelstroms

[remote lark]

all of them

[carmine falcon]

malestroms can get too silly with the modifers
this one had extra muties, bursters,, dogs and fuckton of trappers

[merry flume]

maelstroms had nothing on vermintide deed runs. the average gold rarity deed would kill a darktider

[sullen forge]

Yeah the “Get disabled once and die immediately” one

It’s hilarious watching people get fucked over by it

[plush estuary]

waves of specials and abduction, fun

[carmine falcon]

we basically had to hold choke points or get fucked it was more disablers than normal enimies 😭

[remote lark]

I like hi shock because I can hit a thousand kills almost every game

mael is hit or miss with enemy density which is why I only play the harder ones

I don't think waves of muties and poxbursters is fun

[sullen forge]

The 8 trappers all spawning at once

[merry flume]

double health double damage elites + patrols

[carmine falcon]

relic blade is so good for muties the reach and cleave just mows them down

[sullen forge]

The slayer eyeing the patrol

[remote lark]

ep psyker looking at free stacks

[sullen forge]

Rat game not heretic game

[remote lark]

Is vt2 worth buying

[hexed igloo]

Yeah its really not useful unless you're playing super defensively against a mostly arc damage boss

[sullen forge]

It’s pretty fucking good and drastically harder than DT

[remote lark]

Why hardwr

[hexed igloo]

https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Loch+Shield

[sullen forge]

Dodges aren’t really your life line it’s going to be blocking and positioning

[hexed igloo]

Loch shield is a firearm

[sullen forge]

Why Ainz says “Always be Blocking”

[merry flume]

there's no meta build that will save you from vermintide diffuculty. you will straight up get murked even from the smallest units

[sullen forge]

Its literal, that’s like the only way to keep yourself alive

[silver stag]

Lol i dont think i ever found that

[hexed igloo]

Yeah just dodge tbh

[sullen forge]

Added the fact that hordes grouped together deal less damage vs one Slave Skaven backstabbing you and instantly downing you cause when they’re by themselves they hit like a fucking truck

[frosty herald]

i got backstabbed by a slave ratling for 1/3rd of my health in diff 2 and decided vt2 just isnt for me

[sullen forge]

I recently started playing Legend which is like- fuck is it more relatable to Heresy or Damnation on DT?

[silver stag]

[sullen forge]

Try 7/8ths on Legend LMAO

Why you ALWAYS stick to your group and be aware

[frosty herald]

chief i dont wanna get my healthbar deleted by the weakest enemy in the game i wanna have fun

[remote lark]

Is that why you had someone carry you to h40

[sullen forge]

I mean I don’t mind it, Temp HP is the real life blood of VT2

[spare talon]

It's much more tactical, your methods of survivability are less easy to utilize, and mistakes are punished much heavier

I eat shit quite often in legend there

[remote lark]

Fun though? I might try

[placid fiber]

Man these shields suck lol

[hexed igloo]

Yeah they ain't meant to be good lmao

[sullen forge]

Yeah it’s incredibly fun there’s also actually complex melee combos unlike DT where it’s more just Light or Heavy pick your poison

[placid fiber]

The wiki says you can't even parry with them

[carmine falcon]

ill pick vermetide just because it looks way more melee focused and my fav parts about darktide are melee stuff

[hexed igloo]

Yeah no parries available, because L2 is block, L1 is weapon transform

[sullen forge]

Example Kruebers Halberd can horde clear with Light Heavy loop till he procs his passive which increases attack speed then you do Light Block Cancel repeat

That and Boss and Elite combos exist

[merry flume]

halberd got nerfed hard too, it used to be SO OP

[hexed igloo]

There's another "gun" that you can't parry with but it actually has a use, the Fist of Gratia, which has comical hitstun so you can stagger just about anything out of an attack, including but not limited to orphan

[merry flume]

the push attack was it's bread and butter it would just destroy chaos warriors

[solemn pivot]

what's a good havoc zealot build i feel like wound knife zealot is hitting its limit

at least for me it is. maybe im not playing right

[sullen forge]

That’s one thing I really enjoy, also I got a Red Greatsword when playing with Ainz but I’d like to eventually get a Halberd or Exe Sword

[remote lark]

Try this.

[placid fiber]

What the hell does the shield even transform to? lol

[hexed igloo]

The fist is literally just a knuckleduster that you gutpunch with

[hexed igloo]

It doesn't, I mean your right hand weapon transform, shield is left hand

[remote lark]

@solemn pivot

[spare talon]

This was my first cataclysm game, bear in mind I'm also not max level which is affecting my power/available talents

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278540580976328790/1336588379688534067/Warhammer-_Vermintide_2_-_2025-02-05_12-43-36_AM.mp4?ex=67a8f7ae&is=67a7a62e&hm=1d09638d3fa31e0e0013e67a42c6146467508a7c0ea0e06d75d2d3d64c994fe1&

[placid fiber]

ohhhh

[hexed igloo]

At this point I don't even use my gun most of the time, church pick in tricked is just too good

[sullen forge]

Honestly Cole thank you for the reminder that FK can also play a weird stagger melee control build also

Even though Sword and Shield are absolutely fucking hilarious on him

[merry flume]

least dangerous ironbreaker moment

[placid fiber]

Was foot knight treating you well? It looked like it to me

[sullen forge]

Merc banks on damage, FK is more about banking on stagger which I’ll be honest, incredibly fun playing

[merry flume]

merc 1h mace build 😈

[placid fiber]

One of my friends did executioner sword merc >.>

[sullen forge]

Nothing like saying I don’t like this Skaven horde, pressing F and bulldozing through all of them

[merry flume]

exec sword merc is extremely good, merc is probably the most darktide class because it's reliant on it's OP ass talents

[sullen forge]

I just like Krueber…

[merry flume]

saltz bh with falch/axe

[placid fiber]

Executioner sword depends on merc really hard, tbh, with how slow its light attacks are without attack speed

[heady rapids]

the fact that only one of you is pinging stuff... painful watch

[sullen forge]

Mainly Foot Knight, but huntsman seemed really fucking cool also

[placid fiber]

Huntsman was my favorite kruber class due soley to the bow

[remote lark]

ur painful to watch

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/i-should-kill-you-kill-kitten-angry-kitten-angry-cat-gif-27264360

[sullen forge]

Longbow on Krueber…..

[merry flume]

you really don't need to ping spam in vermintide because you can actually see when multiple chaos warriors are attacking you instead of a crusher and bulwark being inside each other!!!!!

[placid fiber]

I got really good at getting off full power shots

[sullen forge]

Truth nuke!!!!

[merry flume]

longbow feels like cheating when you can actually use it. infinite ammo anything deleter on huntsman

[ornate bone]

Do you guys think Kanye is having his psyker awakening

[sullen forge]

Me watching the Warrior Priest run in like a Methhead followed by “I AM THE COMET” and witnessing the nuke detonate inside the horde

[frosty herald]

ive had the idea to use huntsman kruber with bret longsword but getting into vt2 seems very daunting

[merry flume]

Warrior Prist 2H hammer..... 🤤

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[merry flume]

the 2h hammer special goes so hard

[heady rapids]

weak

[ornate bone]

Each time I think about going back to VT2 I remember how awful it was to dodge and block with ping

[sullen forge]

Sword Mace with Longbow iirc

[merry flume]

when's darktide getting tome and hammer

[spare talon]

Me not knowing literally jack about wh fantasy and hearing saltz yell "I AM THE COMET!" made me go "wow that's kind of a cringe catchphrase"

[sullen forge]

Really nasty combo for Huntsman

[frosty herald]

chorus reworked to be warrior priest invincibility bubble

[sullen forge]

I have a friend who NEVER stops talking about WH:F so I just know all of it cause of her LMAO

[placid fiber]

I could never get into the sword and mace, which was sad

[merry flume]

1h hammer is now shock maul...it's so over...

[spare talon]

Her? Good one, everyone knows women aren't real

[sullen forge]

Okay honestly peak if it happens

[heady rapids]

repeater huntsman is like pl;aying darktide vet

[frosty herald]

it would be the perfect rework

[ornate bone]

Bro got caught lying

[sullen forge]

Yes… her… I have to sit through her hyper fixation dumps about it

[remote lark]

have you guys seen they basically added suicide vests to helldivers

[placid fiber]

repeater pistol free shot bounty hunter memes: Mag dump something(I only take the free shot in chaos wastes)

[heady rapids]

thank god no one i've played with runs that armor

[merry flume]

can you even play helldivers rn LMAO

[remote lark]

oui

[heady rapids]

yes? unless you're a playstation player lol

[sullen forge]

Chaos Wastes Engineer with the infinite ability uptime

[frosty herald]

playstation player L

[sullen forge]

You love to see it

[heady rapids]

tried out the new secondary today and im severely disappointed in that it has the same issue of actually doing damage only 50% of the time

[frosty herald]

Cant even play the wilds beta fat L

[placid fiber]

chaos wastes free bomb throw ranger vet with double throw double explosion morgrims bombs and the +1 ult charge >.>

[remote lark]

The hand nuke?

[heady rapids]

yes

[sullen forge]

I haven’t even played CW yet but I’ve seen gameplay and it looks incredibly dumb and fun

[heady rapids]

i read all the posts on reddit about it being broken and ppl crying and shit
then played with it and literally couldnt kill saucers and monoliths with direct hits

[placid fiber]

free bomb throw is pretty handy in a tight spot, even without the morgrims bombs

[remote lark]

Hd2 like, raycasts explosion damage
A small rock can cancel out half it's aoe

[heady rapids]

darktide ogryn bomb but every thing is ogryn bomb

[spare talon]

I literally only know the skaven general lore because fatshark randomly sponsored mynameisbyf for vermintide 2 which was out of left field and I watched it

[hybrid jewel]

Such a classic thing lul.

[placid fiber]

I mean... the morgrim bomb is basically the big bomb the oggy has, now that I think about it >.>'

[frosty herald]

Saltzpyre becoming a warrior priest is the closest thing to a stormcast eternal in old world

[spare talon]

Those words mean nothing to me

[frosty herald]

Vt2 takes place in old world

[sullen forge]

That and Never in a million years would Krueber be a Grailknight

[frosty herald]

Stormcast eternal are age of sigmar's space marines

[placid fiber]

Basically they're the uh... whatchamacall it the space marine omega guys that guard the emperor, but, for warhammer fantasy

[sullen forge]

Custodes?

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[signal spoke]

This is just me for playing a lot of darktide but damn looking back at VT2, I noticed how theres so little of sound effects and weight with some of the weapon hits and kills

[heady rapids]

double sickle is cool though
no comments on that

[frosty herald]

Kerillian is solely responsible for ubersreik being overrun with skaven

[spare talon]

It sucks ass

[sullen forge]

VT2 melee is fucking peak but I’ll admit some sounds here and there are lackluster

[placid fiber]

Yeah, the weight/sound behind almost all weapons in vt2(when compared to darktide) is 0

[sullen forge]

Does that make me not like the game? Absolutely not

[signal spoke]

You dont even hear a sound effect for when a teammate goes down

[frosty herald]

We need necromancer in darktide with flagellants

[placid fiber]

You just hear their specific character sound instead x.x

[spare talon]

Vermintide 2 fans when they push the horde enemies to interrupt them and nothing happens

[sullen forge]

I personally think they should rework Vent on Psyker to have an extra node similar to Unchained Siennas Ability

[frosty herald]

Isnt crystaline will essentially unchained

[sullen forge]

Instead of it being a cone you basically POTW explode without going down or taking a down

[heady rapids]

not really

[sullen forge]

Basically if it was extremely dog shit and encouraged bad behaviors

[heady rapids]

unchained drains hp w/ l30 talent to get ult charge

[placid fiber]

ironbreaker shield gamers when they go from 5/180 health to 5 + 175 temp health/180 health in 1 heavy 1 lol

[signal spoke]

Sometimes for me sound effects are very important for me to identify what happened but that does not make VT2 a bad game

[heady rapids]

or was it 25

[placid fiber]

25 or 20 iirc, 30 has bomb balm in it

[sullen forge]

Cole was it you playing Kerillian and I’d literally Merc Shout once and you’d instantly get like 200+ THP LMAO

[spare talon]

Probably

[placid fiber]

25

[spare talon]

Cuz I was thorn

[plush estuary]

yes

[sullen forge]

OI!!!! KILL FOR OL KRUEBER!

Just instantly get ludicrous amounts of THP

[misty nova]

Ooooooi

[heady rapids]

shout if it was good.......

[sullen forge]

So fucking true

[frosty herald]

Btw why isnt necro sienna killed on sight

[heady rapids]

the skavens are literally here
why would you kill sienna

[frosty herald]

Shes a necromancer which is kind of actual heresy in the imperium

[stone fern]

necro sienna isnt canon 🤫

[placid fiber]

honestly when they announced necromancer I was like: "but... why?"

[heady rapids]

the skavens are literally under your floors

[signal spoke]

It is more just to tie her connection with her sister who was a necro

[misty nova]

Or is the Necro sienna actually Sofia
Who knows

[signal spoke]

Though I like her unique voicelines between the group as Sienna be corrupted by her sister soul or magic influcing Sienna taking control over

[placid fiber]

I would have taken a sienna that didn't use magic over a necromancer more, myself...

[heady rapids]

seeing people seethe over sienna getting necro was funny af

[spare talon]

I remember hearing the dialogue about it between saltz and sienna about it when that career came out
And I think it was something along the lines of the fact that she has proven her trustworthiness, so he is wary but not immediately killing her for it

[heady rapids]

saw a couple lore nerds just have a meltdown over how this wasnt canon or whatnot

[signal spoke]

"Not a necromancer Markus, NOT a necromancer!"

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[placid fiber]

ikr? lol

[frosty herald]

Well it kinda has to do with chaos and the realm of necromancy itself which is vampire territory

[placid fiber]

Necromancer in general is sus >.>

[frosty herald]

Id think having a necromancer is a bigger issue than skaven

[heady rapids]

its the end of the world
the orks are here
the skaven are here
chaos is here
vampires are here
why would you carea bout your ally being a necro when its the literal end of times

kinda different priorities here dont you think

[placid fiber]

because they could be allies of the enemy as a necromancer? >.>

[heady rapids]

yes which is why saltz doesnt trust her

[remote lark]

I'm calling the inquisition

[placid fiber]

3 peasants and 1 angry house wife show up

[heady rapids]

imperium is even worse in that case tbh

[remote lark]

Darktide:

[heady rapids]

they'd ally with anyone save for probably orks or tyranids

[sullen forge]

Oh yeah ironically enough Humanity under Sigmar is drastically more laid back vs 40ks

[placid fiber]

Pretty much lol

[sullen forge]

They willingly work with elves and Dwarves frequently

[frosty herald]

Witch hunters will kill the entire ubersreik 5 for having a necromancer in their party considering people that even show minor mutations are killed

[placid fiber]

I mean... who wouldn't for tyranids? Those guys r asshole

[heady rapids]

yeah if only they had time to hunt and kill witches and not like
dying to skaven
or chaos
or orks

[placid fiber]

iirc they do ally up with orks for tyranids, tho(the imperium I mean)

or maybe that was necrons...

[sullen forge]

Every alliance is incredibly uneasy and Imperium will gladly break it if an opportunity arises where they gain from it

[light holly]

They allied with necrons

[heady rapids]

blood angels got trolled by necrons hard

[light holly]

And that was the blood angels iirc who worked with necrons to fight nids

[sullen forge]

It’s more like the Silent King said, you’re working with me now if you’re not you’re gonna die okay pookie, alright now kill bugs

[placid fiber]

iirc they orks betrayed them afterwards(but the imperium was going to as well, but, the orks did it faster)

[frosty herald]

The imperium will ally with every faction unless its chaos tyranids drukhari or the hrud

[light holly]

I don't know if ever the orkz worked with the inquisition

[heady rapids]

nah not really, they tried to make it feel like it was a genuine alliance, then pretty much all the necrons vanished lol

[light holly]

They did kidnap Yarrick the one time, or was that another commisar

[remote lark]

"We can be friends until that guy over there is dead."
"After that, things get difficult..."

[placid fiber]

... I didn't know what they were, so I googled them... :/

[sullen forge]

That’s considered incredibly nice for Necron standards btw

[orchid cipher]

the minor xenos races are a lot more interesting than the major ones since GW never has to flesh them out lol

[light holly]

Most orkz you can't work with, maybe bad moonz if ya got teef

[frosty herald]

The imperium will most likely ally with the silent king in the pariah sector considering vashtorr magnus the mechanicus necrons and other major players are gathering there to stop vashtorr from getting another prophecy key

[heady rapids]

the only xenos races i care about are necrons and tyranids

[light holly]

But then you're relying on merc contracts essentially

[sullen forge]

Some orks willingly get hired as mercs as well to shocking effectiveness

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740292410650918944/1329142368397693040/speed.gif

[frosty herald]

Rogue traders having free reign to do what they want if it isnt chaos related

[sterile stone]

Noone wants smoke with the space ganomes

[sullen forge]

The xenos I look into the most are Necrons and rarely Tau to see what the fuck they’re up too

[light holly]

I meeannn

You can slice it carefully
Use a tiny bit of chaos related things as a treat

[sullen forge]

Yesn’t…..

[light holly]

The rite of trade gives PRETTY BIG leeway to further the emperors goals

[sullen forge]

It’s like Radical Inquisitors where if it’s a means justify the ends they can get away with it at times

But that usually devolves into actually falling to chaos etc yeah

[frosty herald]

Radical inquisitors almost always become corrupted

[heady rapids]

remember when perturabo always said that he'd use chaos and not let him become a servant for it
heh

[light holly]

Tiny bit of chaos as a treat 🤏

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[remote lark]

tau is the least evil faction in 40k methinks

[frosty herald]

Lol lmao

[sullen forge]

They’re Pretty evil

[placid fiber]

all it takes is 1 lapse in judgement about whether chaos is or isn't the enemy... <.<

[orchid cipher]

yes, use chaos to fight chaos when chaos already fights chaos. Smartest inquisitor

[remote lark]

how

[sullen forge]

It’s just they’re actually good at hiding it that’s the difference

[frosty herald]

They brainwash their populace

[remote lark]

I don't know alot of lore, all I know is they didn't seem to- oh ok

[sullen forge]

Sterilize non-Tau, brainwash the population

[light holly]

Well like

[frosty herald]

The tau enclaves are the ones that realized what the tau elders were doing so they fucked off

[sullen forge]

Basically if you aren’t Tau you get neutered if you’re like an Auxiliary force

[heady rapids]

sterilization was literally mentioned ONCE in a dawn of war cutscene drop it at this point

[light holly]

The ethereal caste are kinda evil
This is why there's commander farsight here criticizing the ethereals

[remote lark]

silence noobwolf

[stone fern]

theyre all literally more brainwashed than imperial citizens

[sullen forge]

^ these guys are the closest you’ll get to good guys but they’re currently falling to chaos

[light holly]

Like being conquered by tau is probably the best

[frosty herald]

How do tau fall to chaos?

[light holly]

Not really, why if they are, does commander farsight exist

[stone fern]

tau started out as good guys but gradually became brainwashed slaves to the ethereals

[stone fern]

the dude who made the breakoff empire?

[light holly]

The tau have a caste system
The ethereals are always looking into ways to make their people more subservient
But it's a misconception to say that they're all brain washed

[stone fern]

this dude has already been brainwashed

[heady rapids]

blue people = bad

[light holly]

I'm mentioning farsight!

[sullen forge]

They’re still new, have a low notice in the warp but it’s not nonexistent, but it’s mainly Khorne taking an interest to- Farsight? I think their name is

BLUE BAD!!!!!!

[frosty herald]

the funniest thing about the tau is thinking they killed the emperor after killing the blood angels chapter master when the imperium just shows up with an imperator titan

[orchid cipher]

Commander farsight's enclave uses the number 8, he has 8 bodyguards, their color is red and Farsight has some magic sword extending his life. Very much khorne coded

[light holly]

Still it's not as relevant, tau have little souls in the warp yes, khorne can look at far sight all he wants but that's not where the conflict is

[stone fern]

i do not enjoy the non humans

[light holly]

3rd Tau also hire alot of mercs themselves

[sullen forge]

“Clueless”

[light holly]

Kroots and countless other mercenaries unnamed or otherwise

[frosty herald]

kroots have basically become an integral part for tau armies

[light holly]

They are still mercs to be fair
Gw could unbottle the mercs tau hired to show us more models

[stone fern]

tbh tau are to the imperium what the imperium is to eldar(before the fall)

[light holly]

The tau are to the imperium like children with sci fi battle suits

To uh, a medieval empire with guns they can't even make anymore

[sullen forge]

New kids on the block that should be violently bullied yes?

[stone fern]

yes

[heady rapids]

they're like teslas to my monster truck

[light holly]

Their technology is pretty incredible honestly

[remote lark]

How does that even work though, I never understood the whole "we can't make these any more" thing

Wouldn't the imperium like, run out eventually? Of everything?

[frosty herald]

the imperium casually dropping this thing on the doorstep of the tau

[sullen forge]

And Armageddon still stands 🚬

[light holly]

They lost the blue prints to make more

[stone fern]

tbh i like their system with the mech suites

more xp move to a bigger suit
while the imperium is YOU WILL ONLY KNOW THIS WEAPON

[light holly]

During the fight against AI

[remote lark]

So eventually the imperium will just run out of like ships and stuff

[frosty herald]

they dont have the knowledge to make them since everyone who knew died and STC's hold blueprints to make said tech

[sullen forge]

Tech priests go through hell and back to recover them and repair them basically

[tame sluice]

also innovation is considered heresy

[heady rapids]

they have all the blueprints on that one arc mechanicus they just dont know it.........

[light holly]

They gotta repair what they can, and they are always looking for those blueprints

[sullen forge]

All in the name of the Omnissiah

[heady rapids]

if they get the stc then imperium becomes op and 40k ends
gw dont want that yet!!!

[stone fern]

they can still make some things and repair somethings
but that shit is not consistant at all

[light holly]

There was a story about how 2 guardsmen managed to find the blueprint to make a combat knife

They were both awarded their own plants, each

[sullen forge]

Innovation is heresy, you’ll be branded a Heretek and likely executed or turned into a Servitor

[tawdry leaf]

My name has been mentioned

[frosty herald]

not true as innovation is allowed but is scrutinized heavily and experimented with an extreme amount if theres a new bolter that jams once every 10k rounds whilst its more weight effecient and accurate it will be considered a failure

[orchid cipher]

the imperium would fumble the STC. They fumbled 30k when the emperor was alive

[heady rapids]

explains how you get shit weapons in darktide

[stone fern]

wat

[remote lark]

For a fucking knife?

[heady rapids]

NOT IF YOU TELL THE MECHANICUS FIRST!!! THESE BITCHES LOVE ALIEN TECH

[tawdry leaf]

Nothing, inside joke (my online name is tau)

[heady rapids]

if the emperor aint looking its all fair play

[light holly]

Like to put it into perspective, the blue prints to the original models are pretty goood ueah

[sullen forge]

Literally only if you hand it over to them and act like you didn’t discover it then all is fine

[stone fern]

it was a really good knife

[heady rapids]

mechanicus are like the worst fucking faction in the imperium but they are way too vital to them

[frosty herald]

belisarius cawl has immunities from mechanicus scrutiny since he has been given direct orders from the emperor and is one of the few people that isnt a primarch to have known him personally

[zinc talon]

oh my god we're back

now what racial slurs do I have to start yelling to stop being rate limited

[heady rapids]

they'd casually waltz into a bar on some planet and grab people to be turned into servitors

[tawdry leaf]

Dumbledore said calmly:

[sullen forge]

You already know the imperium would be in shambles even more if Cawl died also

[frosty herald]

a symbiotic partnership (do not tell the imperium about the void dragon neatly stashed away in the deepest vault on mars)

[zinc talon]

lol

[heady rapids]

buh muh

[stone fern]

reminder that the admech are the last xenos to die

[sullen forge]

Xenos?

[zinc talon]

what put it into perpective for me is: when half the mechanicum fell to chaos and turned away from the emperor exactly ZERO stylistic changes were made

[stone fern]

yes

[tawdry leaf]

#zealot-class, the chat that’s anything but the discussion of the zealot class

[stone fern]

theyre less than 100% human they are xenos

[zinc talon]

the dark mechanicum changed nothing about who they were or what they looked like when they fell to chaos

[light holly]

😌

[frosty herald]

chaos still has extremely outdated equipment

[heady rapids]

thats not how being a xeno works im pretty sure

[sullen forge]

They literally just said

[stone fern]

nah its fine

[heady rapids]

ehhhh not really tbh
and they compensate it very well with chaos shit

[tame sluice]

well yeah they didn't really "fall to chaos" so much as they were like "what the fuck we don't want to just stop learning and innovating because some heavily armed freaks told us so"

[sullen forge]

Now what if we put a Daemon inside of it, and the Dark Mechanicum was born

[frosty herald]

you mean heretek

[tame sluice]

and yeah some of that "innovation" is just them putting daemons in any random teacup they find lying around

[heady rapids]

hey, as long as it works

[sullen forge]

Dark Mechanicum Actually uses the Warp and other Daemon stuff to work with, innovation that’s frowned upon is simply a Heretek, though technically Dark Mechanicus are considered Hereteks

[stone fern]

speaking of admech i find the tech marines that train under them very intresting

[heady rapids]

anyone gonna preorder the new alpharius fig?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[light holly]

Pray you don't bump into horus heresey traitor legions

[heady rapids]

i wonder if he's regular marine scale

[light holly]

Outdated means nothing, these weapons and armours were the peak of humanity

[stone fern]

there was a story during 30k when a tech marine told a space marine that he was talking to the machine spirit of a forge and it wanted to die because of the spread of chaos in it, and he said it normally like he talkes to machines all day

[sullen forge]

Warp also influencing said weapons as well

[light holly]

Well yeah... when your weapons grow a face it's a little goofy

[frosty herald]

joytoy always releases peak

[sullen forge]

“Please fucking kill me, it’s saying”

[placid fiber]

Using guitars to keel...

[remote lark]

So do the machines have spirits or are the adeptus just on too many drugs

[frosty herald]

700 bucks for this beauty

[tame sluice]

how much in 3D printer plastic tho

[frosty herald]

the machine spirit is alledgedly a c'tan shard of the void dragon or just the void dragon itself

[stone fern]

they have tiny little human spirits

[sullen forge]

What the Necrons got tricked by

[heady rapids]

im waiting for this guy to drop

[stone fern]

might explain why only imperium tech has machine spirits

[carmine falcon]

i find the theory that the machine spirit is not a thing and these guys are just too dumb to understand dark age tech to be funny af

[remote lark]

That's alot of words I don't understand

[sullen forge]

Wake up from your tomb, walk outside and see a bunch of aliens on your front yard, I mean I’d be mad too

[stone fern]

nah theyre real some titans keep fighting when their crew dies

[remote lark]

You have a tiny human spirit.

[carmine falcon]

look up warhammer loooooooooooooooooore
c'atans are ancient gods

[heady rapids]

isnt there a literal ai somewhere tho

[stone fern]

theres a judge response to this but i forgot

[frosty herald]

votann

[heady rapids]

ok nvm that was cawl inferior

[carmine falcon]

Abominable Intelligence in my mechanicus tech?

[light holly]

Folks thinks it's the dragon in the center of Mars or someting

[carmine falcon]

[frosty herald]

ngl i wouldnt call cawl inferior an ai as its either an assistant or a living entity

[carmine falcon]

my warhammer knowledge is not good but mechanicus dont feel like a tech cult, they feel like religious fanatics doing funny rituals cause they dont understand the tech they're working with

[placid fiber]

Just play inquisitor martyr and become a summoner(by playing the tech priest in the prophecy dlc)

[delicate shadow]

unless your name is Cawl in which case you can do whatever you want

the imperium is kinda dumb

[hybrid jewel]

Or the hierophant if you are willing to spend.

[placid fiber]

Yep

[winged aspen]

Gloriana maelstrom and it’s the Veg Modifier

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/nooo-noo-no-scream-yell-gif-26307843

[remote lark]

take book and get like 7 ledge boss kills

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-food-finally-some-good-fucking-food-master-chef-gif-17833684

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1095830584045080638.webp?&animated=true

[fleet zealot]

Look at that perfect sleeping form

[placid fiber]

Me when I've stayed up too long, at my desk:

[visual stream]

I went to a protest for the first time today freakot chat

Feelsgood

[misty nova]

Shouty irl

[copper hawk]

Workin 9 days straight this week

[visual stream]

Least evil American boss

[nimble fiber]

[merry flume]

"why are retention numbers so low?"

[hybrid jewel]

That's beyond overworked lmao. 9 out of 7 days?

[spare talon]

No one wants to work these days
Spoiled generation

[placid fiber]

bro has 2 more days per week than everyone else

[hexed igloo]

Smh my head

Most I've done was 16 13hr days in a row that fuckin sucked

[spare talon]

https://youtu.be/MBsN1-AHQ-4?si=L6txhOQF8El1SISu

[hybrid remnant]

Is excise vault spireside-13 still in the game? i havent been able to find it

[undone pewter]

nope

[hybrid remnant]

do you know if itll be coming back? cuz i wanted to finish the last of those penances

[hybrid jewel]

Pester FS in forums to fix it faster, lul.

[tame sluice]

nah it got excised

[hybrid remnant]

didnt even know it was broken

[tame sluice]

the entire sandy rgion of tertium is broken as fuck

easily the maps with the most out of bounds tricks in the entire game

[hybrid remnant]

pain

it has the last two penances i need to finish 😭

[tame sluice]

though the most fun out of bounds trick in the game is still the one on chasm logistratum (the special ammo one) where you can jump up onto the train tracks that are part of ascension riser

[visual stream]

Excise is like the only fun Hourglass mission, why must it still be vaulted

[tame sluice]

I like relay station a lot, and not because of the objectives but because of silly jumps and parkour shenaniganry

[visual stream]

Relay station has a lot of potential to be a hype finale in my opinion

But it's just 8 billion trash spam, occasional special spawn

The ambience of the corrupted vox speech should go much harder and so should the difficulty imo

[spare talon]

In the darktide content vault
It's been sunset

[hybrid remnant]

oh neat

[copper hawk]

Byeah

[copper hawk]

9 days straight

[sullen forge]

Holy peak

[hybrid jewel]

Yes, but still kinda bad.

[modern lintel]

@copper hawk did u know kcd2 actually has a photo mode

also i think 30 might be the max for charisma

[remote lark]

Furry..

[misty nova]

Mr beeeeeet

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-flying-kitty-beast-funny-gif-9439305380638227301

[violet hornet]

I am so bad with ogryn

[mighty root]

@stone fern

[ornate bone]

Shocking stuff a pain

[twin wagon]

[plush estuary]

so the number on the left is current stats, the one on the right is max stats

[sullen forge]

Nothing but STRAIGHT MISSES

[manic edge]

[sullen forge]

except the last one thats okayish

[plush estuary]

try to get this

[manic edge]

saved it to my pics

should i keep buying then?

i have 79k dockets left so i could buy a few more

[plush estuary]

if you want to try to get the best one, yes. Keep buying grays until the numbers on the right match up

[manic edge]

so trying to get as close to or at 80 as i can?

[plush estuary]

try for 80, since 80 is max and it isnt that hard to get

[manic edge]

oof 5%

[plush estuary]

its fine if its a little bit off, you wont need to mixmax at lower levels

[plush estuary]

you want mobility to be 60, sorry the pic has the stats in different spots

[copper hawk]

Dump dmg :3

[manic edge]

ah im broke rip

OH

[spare talon]

you can have some of mine

[manic edge]

the last try i could do

[plush estuary]

thats the one, just upgrade it

[violet hornet]

That's a keeper assuming hadron doesn't brick it while empowering

[manic edge]

oh jeez

[spare talon]

wake up, its not 2023 anymore

[sterile basalt]

Changing stats during empowerment is still a thing

[spare talon]

oh i thought you meant consecrating

[sullen forge]

Hi, that happened to 7 Taxes I was trying to roll LMAO

[violet hornet]

I had it happen to like 6 plasma guns in a row a week ago

[manic edge]

wait so i can lose the %s during upgrades?

[violet hornet]

Sometimes the numbers will shift a little yes, fairly sure it's a bug and should not happen most of the time

[copper hawk]

Rounding error

[manic edge]

should i just send it to max

[copper hawk]

I have a few weapons that rounded up an extra 1%

[manic edge]

f it i aint no bish

i sent it and now its this

[violet hornet]

I typically don't consecrate until I empower in case the numbers drift too much but it's also fairly rare

[manic edge]

Oh i wasnt supposed to consecrate it yet?

[violet hornet]

It shouldn't matter which order you do it in ultimately but if you're not happy with the drifted stats after empowering you're essentially out whatever resources you spent consecrating beforehand

[manic edge]

Ah well, i guess i could upgrade these other ones to sacrifice them for its mastery as well right?

[sullen forge]

my only one

[manic edge]

or would it smarter to not

[violet hornet]

Green gives the same mastery as gold so just upgrade white to green if you want mastery

[manic edge]

o7

[vague depot]

It does? I swear gold have higher mastery than green I been upgrading to blue for sacrifices

[copper hawk]

Fool.

[violet hornet]

But yeah it's a pretty quick way to get your mastery up so you can change the blessings to exactly what ya want

[vague depot]

Maybe I’m just really out of it my memory was never the best

[violet hornet]

I did a test a while ago and they gave me the same amount, not sure if that would have changed

[vague depot]

I need to buy a Ethernet cable college wifi is not treating me nice I thought I was popping off turns out I was frozen in time and died 19 minutes ago

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[spare talon]

ACTUALLY KILLING MYSLEF

[vague depot]

Oh you two good timing you down to help me with havoc tomorrow

[spare talon]

taxe melee psyker auric qp

rolling steel
2 people go down in the 2nd room and leave
no one fills
other person is a lvl 32 chorus
and the game spawns only flamers, tox bombers on the roof, and snipers at the first cart

[vague depot]

Surely your secondary was a vraks or something

[orchid cipher]

noone ever takes care of the scripted sniper spawn neither when you are doing the power cells

[violet hornet]

God I hate the far away snipers on rolling steel

[manic edge]

i cant put points into the perks for my weapon

[orchid cipher]

just like in chasm

[manic edge]

im confused. i put one point in each now its locked? do i need to put a point in each perk possible?

[plush estuary]

What is your mastery level for the weapon

[violet hornet]

#Break the locks

[manic edge]

8 after sacrificing

[plush estuary]

you need a higher mastery to get max blessings and perks, unsure what 8 gets

[manic edge]

Ah okie, so i need to use the weapon and sacrifice to it more then

[violet hornet]

If you have the dockets and plasteel for it you can buy 40ish of that weapon from brunt and consecrate them once before sacrificing for mastery and that'll get you rank 20

[manic edge]

i just hit 30 so i just pretty much spent all my dockets i saved up from leveling getting this sword sadly xD i need to farm money i guess now lol

[violet hornet]

Iirc it's around 40 if you're starting from 0 that is

Relic blade is a good one to invest in early

[manic edge]

should i try auric missions or just keep spamming quickplay at this point? my sword is 300 power so prob shouldnt do harder stuff i guess.

i could put my 480 axe back on but then i would not get mastery for the sword from fighting would i

[violet hornet]

Normal damnation is the best for farming crafting resources iirc

[vague depot]

I told you this before but I probably worded it wrong every time you level up your mastery you get either a new tier of perks, points to spend on unlocking/upgrading blessings, a new power level to empower to, or a new mark for your weapon

[violet hornet]

Yeah if you look at the mastery page it has a track on the bottom that reveals when you unlock stuff

[manic edge]

you prob did i just dont have a very good memory i apologize. i often ask things several times lol.

[vague depot]

Oh that makes the two of us lmao

[manic edge]

repitition is how i learn

the more i hear it the more i remember it, the more i do it the more i get muscle memory for it.

[vague depot]

Para would whoop my ass because every convo we had would always involve me asking the exact same question, getting the exact same answer with the exact same mention that I asked this already, and I reply with the exact same message and the exact same reminder that I have poor memory

[manic edge]

haha

ya im horrible about if someone tells me something, theres a high chance ill forget it if we dont address it again xD

[manic edge]

just normal damnation difficulty on quickplay or a specific mission?

[vague depot]

Just normal damnation, look for pickups and pray the gods smile upon you
If it’s diamantine you want then a single havoc 40 completion should give you enough to feed a family of 15 but I’m gonna assume you haven’t gotten to that point yet

[manic edge]

i just need gold

i have 6k plasteel and 5k diamantine from leveling that i never spent so i think i am okay on that for the moment

[vague depot]

Iirc it’s something like auric maelstrom for dockets, normal damnation for plasteel and havoc 40 for diamantine
You can still get a perfectly healthy amount of dockets from normal damnation though

[vague depot]

It takes about 2k diamantine to bring a weapon from 300 to 500 iirc you have enough to max a single loadouts worth of weapons and that’s it

[manic edge]

gotcha

i'd be okay with that for now honestly

having one good loadout so i can farm mats for other weapons sounds like a good idea

i guess i could also start leveling another character on the side too, that'd also be money from them leveling up.

[wind dagger]

when do we get new cosmetics from the commodre

[spare talon]

this coming thursday

[twin wagon]

Cole what if, what if we both played in NA and showed the average pub player the greatness of heavy sword

[wind dagger]

do you think they'd release them faster if i threatened to shit myself

[violet hornet]

Auric damn quick play will net you the most dockets quickly but only if you complete every match ofc, I run quick play but only after checking which modifiers are up so I know what to expect in case it drops me into the middle of a shit show of an ongoing mission

[spare talon]

i am preoccupied

[violet hornet]

That being said if a normal damnation is easy enough you might be able to finish it faster and that could be more dockets per minute despite being less dockets per mission

[twin wagon]

3 downs already, oh god

[violet hornet]

Hsword enjoyers rise up

[manic edge]

understood

[spare talon]

i have never felt safer as a psyker next to 5 ragers
literally what the fuck

[misty nova]

10 losses streak 🗣️

[sterile stone]

Don't trip over your own ego out there camper

[tawdry leaf]

@remote lark familiar?

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753664249481396348/899182082176192562/epic.gif

i need to show people that taxe is not a bad weapon via use

[sterile stone]

Just start convincing people to be knife users

[spare talon]

that is the complete opposite of my goal

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-pow-kung-fu-trained-wrong-wimp-lo-gif-27152837

[manic edge]

combat knife?

[delicate shadow]

yeah that's cool but imagine if you were using a knife or DS4 :))))))

[tawdry leaf]

knife builds are LAME

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/brock-lesnar-ufc-ufc200-ahh-scream-gif-5662226

[spare talon]

i genuinely think that in most situations you are safer with taxe

[vague depot]

It’s a weapon with movetech, good single target, decent horde clear, and high crit which lets it abuse zealots most op cdr perk

[vague depot]

Feels like booty cheeks to use I don’t like how I feel about it

[twin wagon]

God emperors work

[twin wagon]

You got carried

[remote lark]

we lost btw

[twin wagon]

Understandable, there's nothing you could do

[remote lark]

logistratum
i took 0 damage all game
blew myself up being silly and team wiped instantly in last event

[vague depot]

How do you manage stamina on vet I’m always running out in general

[manic edge]

whats a good gun to pair with Relic Blade?

[remote lark]

i like boltgun bc its only 'good' at killing crushers but excels at everything else

[sullen forge]

Tidal wave of lukewarm players lately

[manic edge]

idk how much i'll use the gun but i figure it'd be good to have a good one for if i need it

[remote lark]

i'm one of them

[misty ravine]

Pretty much anything you want, relic blade has all bases covered already

[sullen forge]

A lot of HISTG have devolved into carries

[manic edge]

shotgun got it

[sterile stone]

walk

[delicate shadow]

yeah like, pretty much from november 30th 2022 onwards

[vague depot]

Damn

[remote lark]

look at down counts on my scoreboard

[misty ravine]

I like bistol for style (I don't like having two-handed melee and two-handed ranged in the same loadout, makes me wonder how my dude is actually switching weapons)

[sullen forge]

Game should've never came out 😔

[vague depot]

I take tknifes so for relic blade I would probably bring boltgun for dealing with burgle and carapace hordes

[sterile stone]

Yeah but we woulda never got the insane asylum we have today

[sullen forge]

Damn my match be so fine

then boom, DS stack (I wont be able to play cause im using Chainsword)

[twin wagon]

Stage barrel incidents

Till FS nerfs that crutch

[small edge]

anyone able to help me with the shocking stuff penance

[spare talon]

ITS WORKING

[twin wagon]

bit taxing on your mouse m1 tho

[spare talon]

not when most of the combos are pa>heavy>loop

[twin wagon]

Ye because ur using THAT ONE

[distant yoke]

This is some crack cocaine gameplay holy

[twin wagon]

the other 2 marks

[spare talon]

mk2 has the same pa>heavy loop, but the angles are reversed

[twin wagon]

mk2 doesn't exist and I hate it

[spare talon]

NUCLEAR CLIP THO

[distant yoke]

Is it bad to use light spam with mk2

[carmine falcon]

yeah but psyker sucks at melee guys

[spare talon]

its not the best at horde clearing

[distant yoke]

[twin wagon]

Still better horde clear than shock maul

[spare talon]

the 3 key things at play here on psyker is

1. their stamina regen delay is faster than the push attack heavy combo is, so you can loop it without stamina issues
2. stamina being low isnt an issue because of perilous deflection taking that spot, so the frames where youre considered blocking cant stam break you
3. the finesse/flat damage bonuses and crit chance means psyker can reliably hit one shot bps on any reasonable elite, like gunners and ragers

[orchid cipher]

my man has realized the taxer psyker gospel

welcome to the true meleeker

[spare talon]

on zealot i still do PAs often because theyre goated for mixing damage and control, but since i dont have functionally infinite stamina in practice like psyker does, i do have to space it out, which is what the angled light attacks on the mk7 are good for

[distant yoke]

I feel I'd need to REALLY get good at the game before playing Taxe on Psyker. I want to though because it looks even more fun than Taxe Zealot

[spare talon]

one thing is for sure

[orchid cipher]

psyker abuses the PA the best which is what you want from the taxes

[spare talon]

ive never felt saver around 8 ragers as psyker than with the taxe

[orchid cipher]

you could also do vet as well if you get both stam regen delay nodes ig

[spare talon]

because push attacks and heavies stagger ragers out of combos

[spare talon]

but you dont have the peril block to cover you from stamina breaks

[orchid cipher]

the special is also good for ragers, you can special into light spam for ragers

depends on how many headtaker stacks you have

[twin wagon]

Running 100% cleave? Or just Bromentum

[distant yoke]

Can you share your meleeker build please, for the day I finally git gud enough to play it

[spare talon]

yes, but thats mainly for assail
cleave damage profile in taxes arent great, and heavy/pa has a damage cap of 3

[orchid cipher]

meleeker is just gunker with a few node changes

[twin wagon]

Ye was about to say that assail doesn't look natural

[twin wagon]

Ogryn clob, nice

[distant yoke]

Haven't played gunker either

[orchid cipher]

warp splitting + the piercing node that takes the cleave base from 2 to 3

[spare talon]

in my experience on zealot its way easier to push heavy spam because of the block frames before the attack hits to stagger

[orchid cipher]

zealot has actual + stagger nodes too

[spare talon]

ive only played a few games of this, tweaking things around

this is what i have currently

[orchid cipher]

its very good, I still run heavy las pistol instead of a carapace ranged since you are only slow agaisnt crushers

[spare talon]

crushers, bulwarks, and reapers are the pain point

[orchid cipher]

Id rather have the boss damage and the unyielding

ya, heavy las pistol makes all of those besides crushers a joke. Taxe does fine into maulers

[spare talon]

that is an idea actually

[mint brook]

what weapons goes hardest when you start critting? the table tells me its the chain sword, but why is nobody using it?

other than that, taxe seems to be the next weapons that is nasty when you crit

[spare talon]

taxe is the crittiest of weapons, its the only one with 2 stats that affect its crit damage

[misty nova]

(there's just better options)

[spare talon]

i kinda do keep forgetting the laspistol exists
on zealot all of my builds have carcinized into using shatter puncture bolter

[mint brook]

the damage tables jsut tell me the csword does more

[orchid cipher]

laspistol >>>>>> lasgun on psyker

[mint brook]

but idk what i am missingdamage wise, the csword seems to be the best weapon when critting, but then again, idk what i am missing

[orchid cipher]

mk2 taxe is fine, kantrael las is fine but less efficient. MK4 taxe is still a travesty

[spare talon]

for what attacks

are you looking at strikedowns, vanguards

[spare talon]

im tryna get them to make taxe heavies have better profiles
cleave damage caps are a travesty, same with 3 cleave base
overheads having identical profiles as the side leaning diagonals is extremely questionable

[orchid cipher]

yeah

[mint brook]

first is csword
second is taxe

[vague depot]

When tknives handles all of your ranged issues there’s not really much else to go for lmao

[spare talon]

taxe is much faster, deals much better damage to carapace crit or no crit, and can also get access to blessings that are frankly quite great

the chainsword deals good damage with a good cleave profile to things that are typically in hordes, but thats pretty much all its good at

[sullen forge]

holy fucking value

[spare talon]

try fighting a crusher pack with it vs the taxe and see how you feel

[mint brook]

tbf the chain weapon specials in general are awful vs payoff

[spare talon]

evis and chainaxe do quite well into things that justify it actually

[mint brook]

evisc feels bad since the relic blade said hi

[spare talon]

chainsword, not so much

chainsword is the horde leaning chain weapon
evis is the generalist chain weapon
chaxe is the single target chain weapon

[vague depot]

What’s your taxe build share it rq
Do you think it does better than the fgs one

[spare talon]

idk yet

taxe gameplay is more hardwired into my brain cuz of how much ive used it on zealot so i probably just do better with that rn

[vague depot]

Aight what does psyker taxe struggle with then
And what secondary would you take to deal with it

[mint brook]

what are the best blessings on taxe?

[spare talon]

i was using the agrip with cara unyield and crucian hc
but r3msky gave me the idea for an infernus laspistol

[spare talon]

headtaker brutal momentum

[mint brook]

... ofc

[vague depot]

Headtaker bm flak unarmored(?) but I run headtaker shred flak unyielding because I forgot why idk

[orchid cipher]

crushers, take heavy las for unyielding enemies

[mint brook]

does it matter what taxe i use for the blessings?

[vague depot]

I think I ran mk2

[orchid cipher]

I posted my setup above

[mint brook]

or what taxe does what?

[spare talon]

use the 2 or 7, the 4 is pretty shit

[mint brook]

reasons for 2 vs 7?

[spare talon]

all heavy/push attacks have the exact same profile across all marks
the 4 has only overhead and then an uppercut, but does the same damage as the other marks diagonals, which can make better use of brutal momentum
the 2 is better for using heavies more, with the lights being better for single target, and the 7 is a mix of both because it has more diagonals in its light combo
honestly just depends on which moveset you prefer, cuz both have the same strong combo of pa>heavy>loop but just in different directions

[fast iron]

https://tenor.com/view/follow-red-panda-excited-floppy-skipping-gif-10036098104712629450

may this red panda soothe your zealous souls tonight

[twin wagon]

Red pandas are very mean

[vague depot]

I would trade that red panda a thousand times over for a Ethernet cable

[mint brook]

i want to be better vs hordes, so i guess 7? i just dislike weapons that are overly elite or single strike focused UNLESS they will evaporate whatever i hit when it comes to ogryns

[orchid cipher]

mk2 is good, mk7 is good

[mint brook]

and perks? i suppose flak and something else?

[safe glade]

I prefer mk2 as I have always prefered heavies for horde clearing and lights for single target

Or combo between the two, but as long as its not light spam horde clear

[mint brook]

ranged weapon is the best when it comes to crit damage?

since the taxe is the best weapon when you crit, what is the best ranged weapon?

[copper hawk]

first crash in kc d 2

[mint brook]

wut?

[orchid cipher]

I use flak and maniac for muties and normal ragers

[frozen kernel]

fuck that's impressive

[sullen forge]

Now make it crash again

[ornate bone]

The audio bug was patched and now it's back

[twin wagon]

It was patched?

[ornate bone]

Well I stopped having problems for a few days

But in the game I'm in right this second, I can hear my heartbeat at full health, and everything is muffled. Can hear poxbursters exploding, but BARELY when they spawn and roaming

The heartbeats normally for low health, no?

[twin wagon]

[midnight ermine]

They knew exactly what they were doing with this "verminhide" eyepatch

[oak lance]

Anyone need to complete just a flesh wound penance or is anyone willing to give me a hand on it in a private match

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[tame sluice]

the bot walking right up to you and not picking you up is really just the cherry on top

also all 3 of them being bots

[copper hawk]

Yah esp w their inf stamina

I still think there should be a spawn protection when you join a match where ur not targeted for a few seconds

[tame sluice]

there is :)

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-llama-sc-not-like-this-gif-26496717

[tame sluice]

You can't be hit for several seconds after joining a match, and enemies won't prioritize you, but Disablers can still disable you

[twin wagon]

Ok zealots, what stats for taxe, for a soyker

[copper hawk]

Y not ask psyker chat for psyker questionz

[modern lintel]

just got caught for a 106k fine in kcd2 catastrophic

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1334710158525202443/99vpAu6.gif

[copper hawk]

Mobi dump ig

[median steeple]

You've fallen with this response