zealot-class

[vague depot]

I never really paid attention to other people ngl I would forget them the moment the match ends
I just perma run forward and kill anything in my way

[eternal tide]

I've only had a couple bad eggs so far, but they often leave when downed

[vague depot]

yea dont worry about whats the best just use whatever if it works and if you enjoy it

[full nebula]

I guess the thing to ask yourself is if you want to improve your overall skill and sustainability

[eternal tide]

only havoc meta is when I'm forced to change yeah?

[full nebula]

Nope

[eternal tide]

or as long as a player is skilled, anything flies?

[vague depot]

not required but in general people are more accepting of a zealot that runs chorus and equips corruption cleanse aura when theres a blight spreads modifier

[eternal tide]

I see, I'll keep that in mind

[vague depot]

yea as long as you can contribute in some way (clearing/keeping horde away from psyker, taking down gunners, taking down specialists, just kill a lot without dying idk)

[eternal tide]

that's my fave part so far. Hordes and I see a specialist peeking around

[full nebula]

I've used chorus a lot, and still do sometimes. I'd definitely suggest trying out Fury of the Faithful at some point, if nothing else to make yourself more rounded overall.

[eternal tide]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-draw-gif-19805060

[distant yoke]

Are either of the chorus sidegrades worth allocating?

[full nebula]

Megamindnoembed?.gif

[eternal tide]

huh weird, its just the gif selector from Disc 🤔

[vague depot]

From what I remember they are ok but there’s just a lot better talents to take and not enough points to spare
If you really want them go ahead and take them

[drowsy steppe]

not really but its nice to have tdr if you have the spare point

[distant yoke]

Hmm yeah Zealot tree is so weird man

[full nebula]

People were posting porn in here so embeds got removed, same reason for slow mode

[eternal tide]

ahhh,

[vague depot]

Yea zealot chat got too freaky we got all our rights removed lmao

[drowsy steppe]

straight up nsfw shit got posted here and slurs

[distant yoke]

You're simultaneously point starved and forced to take nearly the exact same talents across builds

[full nebula]

Seems like it'd be easier to punish the offenders than the entire chat

[drowsy steppe]

correct but it was a buildup of many a previous offenses. and repeat offenses happened by the same actors

[full nebula]

@distant yoke once you break it down there's about 8 good builds across all characters

Still seems like it'd be easier to just permaban those people

[distant yoke]

Yeah but Zealot tree being literally the same across builds is kinda wild. The others at least have SOME variety, even Ogryn lmao

[full nebula]

Nah that's every tree, ogryns actually the most narrow

[drowsy steppe]

bans can get appealed and done by Fatshark. To which previous offenders's bans have been appealed lmao

I totally understand why its easier to remove embeds and put this chat on slow mode instead. It actively discourage it from happening again

[full nebula]

So unban the people who did the crime, but put martial law in place? Fatshart logic

[copper hawk]

Fweaky

[slate haven]

I don’t silly

Holy shit I just made a meme in mematic but I can’t post it so just visualize it w me ok

So it’s the “society if” one, like the futuristic utopia one, and it says society if zealot chat stopped using gunner resist

[obsidian prairie]

So bait, cool

[slate haven]

Yeah pretty much

[obsidian prairie]

Or it’s just a very obscure way of saying that when we eventually stop playing the game society will grow for the better

[drowsy steppe]

I stopped using gunner resist anyways

[slate haven]

This is why I respect and value your opinion

[drowsy steppe]

Ive gotten good at dodging gunners and reapers I dont feel the need for it anymore

[slate haven]

Wait y’all r still playing Darktide?

[drowsy steppe]

on occasion

[obsidian prairie]

I use it to intentionally play like a moron to kill other things slightly faster

[slate haven]

Ok so before I dip out until the next shop reset I just wanted y’all to know that this German punk band I really like dropped a really good album. Y’all should totally listen to Dubai by Pisse, solid 8/10 album

Glotzkowsky and Tempel II are easily the best tracks

[clever swan]

[full nebula]

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jBbPDj2XKs47Q3u3j?invite=cr-MSxvMmUsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA
kid named audio engine

[tawny walrus]

What is that sound effect lol

[remote lark]

i have a mod that makes successful dodges play notes from the ultra instinct theme lol

[tawny walrus]

That's tight lol. Lined up pretty comically in the clip

[remote lark]

burster had no sound

[frozen kernel]

In aurics yeah same, but in havoc I run triple gunner resist because fading light is the creation of a hurt man

Doesn’t help with a single dreg dude with his vector las, but it helps with the gunner hell when bubble is down

[vague depot]

i run triple dockets because i accidentally spent it all trying to get a plasma gun godroll

[frozen kernel]

Legend

[vague depot]

I just pray no one has the mod that lets you look at my loadout and if they do I hope we all ready up before they can actually look at it

[obsidian prairie]

You can see weapons without mods

[remote lark]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-donkey-bridge-im-looking-gif-27498002

[vague depot]

Can’t see curios though right

[remote lark]

post your curio rn

[vague depot]

No

[grizzled aspen]

Good thing I have inspect from social and inspect from party finder!

[vague depot]

Let’s shoot for true survivor tomorrow

[drowsy steppe]

level 10 psyker on an auric qp

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii blew himself up twice with warp unbound earlier, and I said "man thats a skill issue" right before karma decided I was, in fact, fucking around too much. (I blew myself up exactly the same way)

[frozen kernel]

Karma haunts you in DT like an STD

[mighty root]

The carry

[grizzled aspen]

The last 3 words of this sentence were totally unnecessary bro...

[acoustic dune]

whatif zealot
missile

[frozen kernel]

It’s always when you forget about it

[acoustic dune]

forget what?

[frozen kernel]

The rash from going over 100% peril

I’ve got a clip back at home where we’re roasting Tau for getting pancake’d and then Frog just “oh fucking shit” KABOOM

I’ll be the first to admit when he had me try gunker for the first time I popped like 4 times in one match because I came from EK gazer with WU lmao

[grizzled aspen]

This is why I stopped running peril gen reduction with warp charges. It's just the right amount of inconsistency to make me fuck up when I'm tapping trauma against the ground to stagger stuff.

[frozen kernel]

I can see how that can mess up the muscle memory

[grizzled aspen]

Knowing that I can do exactly x number of trauma taps before I have to quell just from muscle memory so my brain can focus on other things is quite important.

[frozen kernel]

Redditors would be like “just stop casting at max peril 4head” but it’s more complex than that

I was used to the ~8 peril that each assail dart would give so when you made me not take ER on that gunker build, it really fucked with my muscle memory

Suddenly being able to throw ~3 darts turned into MAYBE 1-2 darts depending on if scriers was in its higher buildup stage

[grizzled aspen]

At this point I have an internal clock for scriers. Before 10s have passed, it's safe to throw darts. After 10s have passed, wait until you hit 100%, then wait another second to throw darts again.

[frozen kernel]

W our dogshit randos in those JIIIV and CIVI games I felt pressured to try to deal with things quickly, so it led to frequently popping while I learned

[carmine falcon]

average rusher squad (they always get wiped)

[frozen kernel]

The console veteran hotmic will always rapidly drain the mental capacity

[carmine falcon]

console hotmics are epic i love playing with someone and listining to his parents fighting in the background

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii keeps being like "hey you should help the random" when I'm playing scriers in aurics and my only reaction is "no."

[frozen kernel]

I have revive speed on one of my pub curios for psyker lol

[grizzled aspen]

"Youre scoreboard farming!!!" no I'm not bro I'm using scriers and gliding across the floor like it's made of butter to kill everything.

[frozen kernel]

sometimes you gotta flex by going for a crazy res as what is traditionally viewed as the squishy bitch class to show everyone else they’re playing like cowards ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Sometimes it’s not even a revive. It’s a fucking net that people still haven’t realized takes less than a second to remove

Ogryn just laying there in a puddle of fire like “this is fine”

[grizzled aspen]

He has 300hp, he can cook for a sec while I kill the flamer that's still trying to bbq him.

[candid shuttle]

I think I'm going to buy the new snow helm for zealot and ogryn

I like rebreathers

[grizzled aspen]

I'm probably going to wind up buying the whole set for everybody. It will be the last batch of cosmetics I purchase for this game.

[obsidian prairie]

You sure about that

[misty ravine]

The zealot set is great for LARPing as a vet

[frozen kernel]

While they’re def better than those ugly shorts we got a couple rotations back, I just don’t think they fit enough maps well enough to justify buying

[full nebula]

vet helmet has a big ass head

[frozen kernel]

Like it’s peak Gloriana drip, but if you do an hourglass mission with the snow pants I’m laughing at you

[full nebula]

psykers jacket looks weird af because of how poofy it is

[sullen forge]

Actual militarum cosmetics for the two classes that literally never get flak armor outfits (Psyker and Zealot)

[frozen kernel]

Imagine going down to Hab Dreyko wearing all white

[carmine falcon]

That sounds sick tho

[frozen kernel]

Wish we had Helldivers-esque grime that would build up on us

Would be neat if they had extra time and resources. Edges looking slightly torched after taking fire damage, cloth bits becomes slightly tattered. Maybe if you’re missing a wound one of your lenses will crack on some helmets

[cinder shard]

Yh I am a bit torn about the psyker outfit. At first I thought it‘s amazing, but the more I see of it, the more I think it‘s just okayish

[cinder shard]

That would be amazing

[misty ravine]

The psyker helmet looks like it matches decently well with the tan Penance gear until you actually see it in a game

[full nebula]

the helmet is great, the pants are very barebones and basic looking. If i had to do it again I probably wouldnt get the jacket

[misty ravine]

The full set is okay if you go force sword + staff, it definitely feels like you're wearing a snow suit when trying to run around

[full nebula]

The helmet matches reasonably well with the blue psyker chest from the penances

[frozen kernel]

To be fair, even they say we go through quarantine and decontamination after missions…being literally covered head to toe in Nurgle slime has a funny habit of causing your skin to fall off your bones so

[cinder shard]

But I don‘t think it fits well enough with it to justify spending money on it. I also find the head-bit of it (like the thing that‘s not the mask) a bit too big

[frozen kernel]

I get it. Still wish we’d get minor cosmetic damage to our outfits tho

[heady rapids]

emperor kicked nurgle's ass so hard that one time with mortarion that nurgle goop only makes you slightly corrupted now

[frozen kernel]

I always used to joke that the Flesh Wound penance top had 3 candles, one for every fireteam member. I’d tell them “Better hope your candle doesn’t go out”

Remember when Flesh Wound tops would blind folks in Lights Out?

[copper hawk]

Skiibidiiiu skiiibidiii hawk tuah hawk

[clever swan]

[grizzled aspen]

Let's kill him, chat.

[candid shuttle]

I fucking HATE gunners

charge into gunner
gunner doesn't engage in honourable melee combat and shreds me

[grizzled aspen]

Consider killing him.

[candid shuttle]

Gunners are a fucking nuisance oml

[twin wagon]

Consider, joining chaos

[grizzled aspen]

Let's kill him, chat.

[acoustic dune]

then you are not melee in hard enough

[austere orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/rsx4-gif-21328683

[candid shuttle]

"Gunners buffed to make them feel more like an elite guard unit"

THEYRE NOT!!! THEYRE USING SUBSTANDARD HOT SHOT VOLLEYS!!!!

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out chat
the emperor
but he iz smol n cute

:3

[grizzled aspen]

Jokes aside the only time a dreg or scab gunner should continuously shoot you in the face when you are beating him to death is if you're doing havocs and they have a cranial parasite. Otherwise you can easily stagger them or just outright oneshot them.

[candid shuttle]

The reapers

[acoustic dune]

make it a modifier
since if that was the case
no game would be winnable

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, reapers will just eat you alive. You can still oneshot them though.

[candid shuttle]

I'm pretty sure FS just forgot what ogryns love

[twin wagon]

Reapers can be ran around, their turn speed is dog, just don't make sense of their aiming animation, keep running

Or he'll shoot you while aiming at someone else

[autumn gust]

oh shit
real @grizzled aspen??

[candid shuttle]

BEATING people to death and the entire reason of ogryn proofing existing

[grizzled aspen]

Chat do I go to sleep for like 4 hours before work or do I stay up and game?

[clever swan]

game

[autumn gust]

just do what Jesus tells you

[candid shuttle]

Throw rocks at fatshark employees for buffing gunners

[grizzled aspen]

You got me, I'm convinced.

[frozen kernel]

I’m home and I got apple juice

[clever swan]

[grizzled aspen]

(I will only stay up because my shift is 4 hours and I have 2 coffees in my fridge that will absolutely keep me awake until I get off work)

[autumn gust]

brapple juice

[frozen kernel]

It’s time to play Bloodborne for 5 hours while I wait for maintenance to carve into my bathtub

[grizzled aspen]

Do I know you? Am I supposed to?

[copper hawk]

they can shoot you if they're not facing you

[twin wagon]

Why you keep running

[grizzled aspen]

Bloodborne would be so great if it didn't have janky ass dodges.

You're telling me dodging away from Darkbeast Paarl is the wrong approach?

[autumn gust]

it doesn’t matter who I am
what matters is my plan

[grizzled aspen]

That's disturbing. I don't think I'm gonna like interacting with you.

[jovial cosmos]

Bloodborne pc waiting room

[autumn gust]

I don’t care
you will like it
we’re going to be great friends
forever

[clever swan]

literal purgatory, forever.

[jovial cosmos]

I do wonder how long it would take to finish the modded port, last news was that they got the chalice dungeons working

[grizzled aspen]

[grizzled aspen]

Sony actively shitting their britches because they want to sit on the IP and do fuck-all with it, despite modding being a cool scene for soulslike games and bloodborne being a sick setting.

[autumn gust]

I will add you on steam
and the constantly ask you to play games with me
until you turn on invisible mode
but by then it’ll be too late

[clever swan]

can it be emulated?

[grizzled aspen]

I'm waiting for ds3 to go on sale for like 3 dollars like it usually does once a year and then I get to wait on archthrones.

[frozen kernel]

Bloodborne is from the era of "no, silly. dodge into the meat cleaver twice the size of your torso"

[autumn gust]

doing backend admin and spotting random employee names
I forgot Percival was a name

[frozen kernel]

I've been playing it with ShadPS4 having an absolute blast. I never had a PS4 so I never got to play, and didn't watch a lot of gameplay online at the time

[grizzled aspen]

My issue with this is bloodborne has random issues with some attacks you dodge into, some attacks you don't, while ds games have the ability to dodge into and away from all attacks.

Not to mention janky geometry and hitreg that soulslike games are notorious for.

[frozen kernel]

Yeah they do the weird thing with unlocked rolls vs locked step dodges. Knowing which one to use and when is a challenge in and of itself

[grizzled aspen]

Exactly. Unironically, I'd prefer if they took the ds2 approach and gave you a stat to increase iframes on step dodges so you can just step dodge to victory.

[frozen kernel]

I was humbled by a flame dog boss just to go online and see that everyone who has fought that dog unanimously agree "Fuck that boss"

[grizzled aspen]

Flame dog... flame dog... I'm drawing a blank on his name. He wasn't too much of an issue for me. Bolt paper + tricked axe.

[frozen kernel]

Rolls actually have more iframes than your step dodges, but because of the longer recovery you wont usually get a punish off with one

[grizzled aspen]

The only fire boss I remember is Lawrence, and he's just a cleric beast reskin with a 2nd phase.

[frozen kernel]

"Watchdog of the Old Lords" says online https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Watchdog+of+the+Old+Lords

"The defiled version can have up to 28700+ health, making it have the highest hp out of any boss in BloodBorne, and the highest hp out of any boss in the SoulsBorne series."

I feel like Midir with summons had more HP, I think Fextralife is just shit as usual

[grizzled aspen]

Oh it's watchdog, yeah he's not that hard.

You just have to be super patient with him and use a weapon that actually has range. My brother, who for some reason is sickeningly good at bloodborne, but sucks ass at ds games, no hits him with extended saw cleaver.

[jovial cosmos]

Not sure how much hp midir has, but remember that he gets dmg resistance on everything but his head which takes more dmg

[grizzled aspen]

He's also horribly weak to lightning, go figure. Dragonslayer axe go brrrr.

[frozen kernel]

He's not hard, he's tedious. And depending on the conditions, he can one shot you with his charge if he chains it after certain other attacks

[jovial cosmos]

Its just that most people (me included lol) rarely hit his head so it just seemed like he has a lot

Abyss greatsword my beloved

[frozen kernel]

Having to do a classic soulsbourne boss gate run over and over because he did the one move with a fucked hitbox that one shots you from full HP is ouchie on the sanity

[grizzled aspen]

Oh, absolutely. Tedious bosses are my favorite ones, actually. Cleared NK in ds3 on my 2nd try after seeing his moveset once. Quite an annoying boss only because you can't punish him because the rolling clouds will catch you.

[frozen kernel]

I used to love it in Ds1 Oolacile pvp. The one handed spin was an amazing backstab wakeup

[jovial cosmos]

Eh getting oneshot / tanky bosses in souls games means fuck all after youve played nioh

[grizzled aspen]

I spent all 15 of my estus and had to use an ember to not die, plus regen, but I made it happen.

[frozen kernel]

Nameless King was always so blown out of proportion imo

[jovial cosmos]

Those bosses always have the "just stagger him lol" gimmick to make them easier

[frozen kernel]

That being said, look how many people got filtered by Pontiff lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Pontiff is a punk ass bitch.

[frozen kernel]

Pontiff is a punk ass bitch. (1) You can literally kill his clone before it gets a chance to even dash away

[grizzled aspen]

If they made him parryable on more attacks he would be a fun boss, but he's just not with how he is. Aesthetically, he's sick as fuck.

[frozen kernel]

DS3 was a series of filters for first time normies who didn't play Ds1, or suffer through Ds2

[grizzled aspen]

The lore walk towards you when he lights his swords up gave me shudders the first time I saw him. Then I got repeatedly spanked until I learned he and the dancer shared the same issue of not being in sync with the rest of the bosses.

[frozen kernel]

I don't think anything will top fighting Gael at the end of time

[spare talon]

And yet after a few attempts of learning how to parry him (and learning how to parry on dark souls as a whole)
I kicked his shit in easily

[grizzled aspen]

I killed Gael with Vordt's hammer lmao.

[grizzled aspen]

Looping his lunge is not what I meant by parrying him to death. I was meaning parrying him mid chain.

[jovial cosmos]

Thats always easier?

[frozen kernel]

The Gwyn fight used to be my favorite until the Artorias fight, Dks2 DLC was all absolute ASS for bosses, then Ds3 came in with thematically the coldest fight ever

[spare talon]

I don't even remember his attacks
I just remember parrying him constantly at any point I chose to

[grizzled aspen]

Genuinely, Pontiff would be a cool ass boss in elden ring, what with how they handle parrying a boss in that game.

[jovial cosmos]

Parrying the second or third hit in a chain is free

[spare talon]

Anyway this is why lies of p is the best souls game

[frozen kernel]

I wish Elden Ring wasnt watered down so hard that you can just find a broken weapon to L2 your way through the game with

There's also just so much...nothing on the map and so many of the dungeons (while really cool when you first experience them) arent worth ever revisiting unless you NEED something specific from there

[spare talon]

I played the entire game (the second time, after I had like actually learned how to play souls games) and the first run of the dlc with the fucking spiked club
The whole time

[grizzled aspen]

Pontiff only has 3 attacks that are parryable. The lunge, and both of his fire sword attacks after he does a sidestep. One will be a sidestep > magic sword thrust > fire sword swing, the other will be a sidestep > fire sword swing.

[frozen kernel]

Elden Ring really lacked on actual legacy dungeons and that sucks because those areas like Raya Lucaria and Volcano Manor were so cool

[spare talon]

Lucario

[frozen kernel]

Very interconnected, vertically dense, long levels as opposed to "go down into the stone ruins and fight the magic cat statue for the fourth time"

[spare talon]

The 2nd time I played I found 2 side routes in lucaria I didn't even know existed on the first run

[frozen kernel]

DS3 was the first time I went fucking "unga bunga" and used Yhorm's Machete for the rest of the game. Absolutely stupid hilarious weapon

It dealt so much damage that it was the only colossal weapon that didn't have a guaranteed R1 combo, but if anyone walked into a single boosted R1 they took like 800 damage and got poise clapped wolf ring be damned

[grizzled aspen]

Actually, I take back what I said. So Pontiff has two weapons, the Greatsword of Judgment (magic sword) and the Profaned Greatsword (fire sword). You can't parry the Greatsword of Judgment at all, only the Profane Greatsword.

[frozen kernel]

Weird. It was sad that the GS of Judgement's WA was so easy to dodge in PVP because fuck was it cool. Same with the Twin Prince greatsword

[grizzled aspen]

I had to double check and confirm this, because I thought his lunge was the Greatsword of Judgment doing a thrust, but apparently it's an overhead swing from the Profane Greatsword.

[grizzled aspen]

Twin princes gs was so fucking good man, I loved shitting on people that liked to shield poke. I could poise through their attacks and do Lorian's uppercut to knock their shield out of the way, or I could do Lothric's poke with the leo ring (? counter damage ring) and oneshot people, at times.

If I had to say one of the prince's swords, alone, was better than the other, I'd have to say Lorian's sword is better, solely due to poise and the weapon art being a better version of stomp.

Also, aesthetically, the half melted ultra that it was looked so much cooler than Lothric's dinky ass straight sword.

[frozen kernel]

Point blank trading people with the WA light was fucking hilarious yeah, people just got too smart or played the fucking "spacing meta" with a curved sword

[grizzled aspen]

The best part of fighting a curved sword user is watching them l1 you with twinblades and grinning with glee knowing you have the poise to eat that and hit them with your weapon art poke.

[copper hawk]

i am currently watching THE scene of the boys of the first season .

[grizzled aspen]

Also, demons scar users should be deleted with impunity. Broken ass weapon.

Mfw your build forces me to equip my flame stone plate ring because ds devs didn't fuckin balance that thing for shit:

[cinder shard]

But the legacy dungeons it does have are peak design and easily beat the design of the other fromsoft games for me

[frozen kernel]

That's what I'm saying! I don't know if it's quite peak, but they're definitely the strongest areas in the game

[keen pendant]

is finesses dump stat for relic blade ???

[grizzled aspen]

No, absolutely not. Finesse affects headshot damage and attack speed, both of which are vitally important to your sword being functional. Dump mobility.

[jagged cradle]

Which one again?

[copper hawk]

🥛

[jagged cradle]

Oh that one I see now

[grizzled aspen]

:(

[wind dagger]

which of the relic blades is just the executioner sword

[heady rapids]

x

[nimble anchor]

Which skins in the shop are for relic blade? heavy sword skins or?

[cinder shard]

None

[nimble anchor]

and for double barreled?

[cinder shard]

Not sure if there are skins for it but none are in the shop rn

[nimble anchor]

even the ones for gold? relic and double barreled?

[cinder shard]

For gold there are neither skins for relic blade and double-barelled

[misty nova]

Finesse is never a dump stat
Maybe on the bully clubs because it's only attack speed there and you can always H1 block cancel the Brunt's Basher
But then you'd have to be playing Bully Club

Except the Bully Clubs also have the defences stat

I need to recheck that BC Finesse
Think it's 1-1.14 attack speed

[keen pendant]

yeah people already told me

[copper hawk]

For nearly every wpn in the game mobi is the dump, if not it's defences - only a tiny amount of wpns have different dumps, but these are exceptions (flamer, psyker wpns, etc)

[candid shuttle]

go for carnival
try to do a Jump to the first det pack area
die

[keen pendant]

or colleteral for Bolt Pistol and so

[candid shuttle]

Me omw to fucking get shredded by gunners

[misty nova]

Call me cheese the way they shred me

[grizzled aspen]

Genuine question, are you running any gunner resists?

[candid shuttle]

No

I don't think so

My vet does

[sweet arch]

For the Ogryn event, what gun would be the best to shred the ogryn packs, can not decide if Flamer (carapace, unyielding) or Bolter is better

i kind of prefer the flamer just bcs it covers a lot more targets - but i am open for suggestions

[cinder shard]

I‘d go thammer+flamer. Thammer for crushers and flamer for bullwark packs (and potentially reapers hiding behind them)

[summer sluice]

For me its like 4 or 5 bolter pistol shots to put them down and for a lot of targets just use the relic sword in my opinion

[sweet arch]

well, on auric, the packs are big

i can single DPS anything with crit zealot, but its about the blobs of armor running at you

and 4-5 shots per body, is a lot if there is 12+ bodies

[obsidian quail]

"what weapon is good for..."
fucking ds4, dude

[sweet arch]

again, i talk about the blobs, the mass of armor, not single targets

i can outdance them all with the DS, thats not what i need to do though to help the team

[obsidian quail]

use choir and while they are stunned, take them one by one

does flamer has a blessing against armor? i dont remember

[heady rapids]

either works, but flamer would work better if you had a melee w/ uncanny and bolter kinda doesnt care

[sweet arch]

it does

oh, wrong answer, the flamer got penetrating flames, so it makes sense

will stick to flamer, it works well enough

[acoustic dune]

penetration flame is a meme
go full strengh flame build

[winged aspen]

Poppin flamethrower on hunting grounds is satisfying

[sweet arch]

i will try the pen flames, i was using blaze away and overpressure before, will just see what works better in the modifier

[grizzled aspen]

Do you see why this is a problem?
"Gunners are shredding me!"
looks inside

no gunner resist

[placid fiber]

Sounds about right

[hallow oxide]

Penetrating flame does feel really good against giant Ogryn waves, was using it last night

[dry hinge]

Tbh I run no resist at all besides corruption

[candid shuttle]

Mauler behind wall jumpscare

[placid fiber]

Just like the crusher finishing its overhead right when you turn the corner

[candid shuttle]

"Oh boy! I love cutting through these bruisers!"

Mauler appearing from the side wall that I am very close to:

[hallow oxide]

What role does the double barrel fill?

[candid shuttle]

"Oh boy! A singular crusher!"

30 fucking gunners spawning from the horde trigger:

[arctic spindle]

What stat do we dump on the Relic Blade?

[placid fiber]

mobility

[candid shuttle]

Me when the reaper doesn't beat me to death with his twin linked stubber (not lore accurate)

[arctic spindle]

ok ty

[placid fiber]

close to mid ranged elite/special killer... it might get horde clear with manstopper + scattershot, but, idk for sure on that one

[carmine falcon]

doomguy cosplay

also yes it has funny cleave with those blessings, i messed around with it yesterday and it was cleaving rager packs easily

[hallow oxide]

Neat, I’ll have to try it later

[grizzled aspen]

This machine deletes dreg ragers.

Like, all of them. At the same time.

Manstopper. It stops the men.

[placid fiber]

💯

[hallow oxide]

Been using the tactical axe with the flamer recently and it’s been a pretty fun combo, the flamer actually does decent sustained dps to bosses and on the auric missions with weaker monstrosities the burn is really good

[misty nova]

Close range powerhouse

[grizzled aspen]

Dude, just run gunner resist on your curios and they'll stop eating you alive. It works on reapers too.

[hallow oxide]

Is the heavy sword worth using at all? I haven’t even touched it because I’ve been using other weapons

[placid fiber]

The heavy sword is great, you just want a gun for armor with it

[misty nova]

They are pretty good against hordes and small elites, yeah

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah. Deathblow lets you cleave like 7 ragers in one go. The only thing it struggles with is carapace but you can aim for bodyshots on maulers and use chastise on crushers.

[hallow oxide]

Sounds like a boltgun pairup

[placid fiber]

boltgun, revolver, penetrating flames flamer

[grizzled aspen]

Pen flames is super overrated.

[placid fiber]

Yeah it is, it's just an option ^

[hallow oxide]

What blessing are recommended on the assault chainsword? I think I’m using wrath and the bleed on special attacks rn

[misty nova]

4 Shred + Rampage/Sweep
13g Shred + Wrath

[placid fiber]

^

[grizzled aspen]

Mk13 is op with martyrdom btw. Light spam turns you into a literal blender.

[fleet zealot]

ferrets posted in psyker caht

[fleet zealot]

don't play around with blled on special it's not worth it,

[grizzled aspen]

Bloodletter would be a good blessing if crits did bleed for normal attacks.

[misty nova]

Add thunderous to Chainsword so Letterous be a thing
Unless bleed stopped applying Thunderous

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think DOTs apply thunderous. That would actually make thunderous useful on ogryn weapons.

[misty nova]

🤷 I don't have Debuff Indicators so I can't test interactions and stuff like

[heady rapids]

i think they used to long time ago but rn they dont

it would be insanely op, rn the only use for those is shout cause it applies it

but thunderous loses to skullcrusher on ogryn so.... yeah

[violet hornet]

Hsword 7 combos: #zealot-class message

Build I use for it:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d80d899-dba2-4cad-af4f-fe11b5e9eacd/hsword-7-bolter

[misty nova]

it would be a third option for Bully Clubs
The shovels are aight
The pickaxe has better options
Paul

[violet hornet]

Hsword 9 is more popular, check cica's builds for that: #zealot-class message

[misty nova]

Eh the Paul has Opportunist so Thunderous will not be needed that much
Wait a minute
Paul doesn't have thunderous, that's Thunderstrike
Never mind then

FS buff Thunderstrike plz

[opal star]

[wind dagger]

what're people doing for talent tree/perks on the relic swords

[misty nova]

Detailed info on pinneds
Tldr Martyrdom or IJ, Cranial+Rampage/Heatsink
Cranial+Wrath for Havoc

[carmine falcon]

im using piety stelwart works good for me
ez to hit heads and keep refreshing fotf

[opal star]

fellow blazing piety fan

[carmine falcon]

we be blazing the piety

[modern lintel]

why arent you a scab rager unepic

[opal star]

scab ragers are idiot cowards that have to hide behind armor and are fat and slow and dumb

[eternal tide]

yo zealot gang

[opal star]

hi carc

[placid fiber]

iirc from what someone showed in a video they have a faster combo attack than dreg ragers

[eternal tide]

hola! anyone know what curio stats we get?

[opal star]

toughness toughness stamina I think

[eternal tide]

alright!

and the perks?

[opal star]

uhhhh
I don't actually recall the curio perks I run other than like 1-2 gunner resistances

[eternal tide]

gotcha thanks!

[misty nova]

It's usually health, toughness, gunner resistance
Extra CDR is often not needed (save a few few cases)

Revive ally (even more niche)

[arctic spindle]

Cant decide if I love or hate martyrdom

[misty nova]

I'm biased so I say you love it

[carmine falcon]

how do you run martydom
im trying it out today to see what's the fuss about with relic

[sullen forge]

The rare veteran running LNOB with 3 revive speeds instantly getting people up lmao

[fleet zealot]

martyrdom trades cdr access and max toughness for the highest potential attack speed+damage increase and a high amount of tdr

[eternal tide]

for all 3 curios? o:

how about the stamina stuff

[acoustic dune]

Ferret poster
my energy is low
I request upon you for ferret pick
prease

@fleet zealot

[misty ravine]

Martyrdom doesn't need to give up CDR, for most weapons I'd still take Invocation of Death over pretty much anything else that cost 3 points

[misty nova]

Iirc two gunner resistance is good so that third curio could have something else

[eternal tide]

sooo I run

Toughness x2 / Stamina x1

Perks: Gunner Res x2 / Sniper Res x1
The rest into Health/Toughness ?

[arctic spindle]

Is Relib Blade the most used weapon?

[eternal tide]

I think its the Dueling Sword and Combat Blade (Knife)

[misty ravine]

As far as I know there are no published stats on pick rates. Anecdotally I see more Dueling Swords on Zealot than anything else, because they're overpowered.

Relic Blade is really common as well, because they're strong, fun, cool, and still relatively new.

[carmine falcon]

yeah i figured that much but i was curious on specific builds
im gonna roll with the one reginald posted in his relic blade vid for funnies

[white kernel]

As I am hitting my 60 hr mark relic blade was my favorite weapon til i settled into my role as an elite/specialist kill role which is when the dueling sword took over. It all depends on the role you're trying to take in the group. Relic sword is a really good all rounder.

Just my experience so far.

Got tired of my teams not being able to focus on priority kill targets so I do it myself.

[modern lintel]

what is bro typing out

[white kernel]

A thesis disproving the theories of gravity.

[misty ravine]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e19f5ef-1447-4a9c-88e1-ad9c7ceb14e7

This is what I've been using in Aurics, has worked really well. Ranged weapon is pretty much whatever you want.

I've been using Wrath even outside Havoc lately, mainly because I can't be fucked to switch it back and forth from Rampage, but it does feel good.

You get your FotF back very fast with light spam, but if you want your heat to last longer while cleaving a horde, you can mix heavy attacks in, or even spam heavies—Relic Blade AFAIK generates a fixed amount of heat per swing, regardless of number of targets hit, plus a fixed amount per second just for being activated. The heavies will also help stagger Elites in the crowd, but be aware that this build doesn't have TWBS and you may get poked out of a heavy attack if Punishment isn't fully stacked.

[white kernel]

The anakin skywalker build okay.

[carmine falcon]

ill give this one a try thanks

3 wounds spicy

[white kernel]

playing at 1hp is for champions

[misty ravine]

Stand in the first fire barrel you see to Martyrmaxx and Anakinmaxx ||jk don't be that Zealot||

[misty ravine]

If you're gonna go Martyrdom, might as well go for The Full Marty

[white kernel]

You stole her from me!! Stands in fire

[full nebula]

Hey folks, I need opinions on this song. Not a Rickroll btw https://youtu.be/q7y60493G8A?si=hvVxvuTnQXrOUX-V

[modern lintel]

not his best work imo

[tight fog]

that's a rickroll

[full nebula]

It's not

[modern lintel]

also one of these reason id say is why were slow mode

[full nebula]

Someone already did the rickroll, it's played out now

[tight fog]

that's rick astley

[visual stream]

I just got a legendary FYP pull on Tiktok that was 6 likes and it was a conspiracy theorist slideshow

[clever swan]

brick by brick

[placid fiber]

I'm too busy watching ironmon to fall for your rickroll

[full nebula]

If you saw it, you'd wish it was a rickroll

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/watermeljin-little-monkey-stare-headphones-gif-27590979

god damnit

[visual stream]

watermeljin little monkey stare

[placid fiber]

Post it in psyker chat you coward

[carmine falcon]

why does relic have so many blessings that depend on you blocking when literally no one blocks unless they're out of dodges

[plush estuary]

because most of the blessings arent worth it

[carmine falcon]

yeah the blessings on it just feel very?????? outside wrath, rampage andd carnial i dont see how any of these are good

[plush estuary]

exactly

[clever swan]

does the powering on block count?

[zealous basin]

yes but still mid

[clever swan]

that's probably why they did it i guess

[carmine falcon]

like i can only see the block one being useful if im fighting bosses cause i do block certain boss attacks but its so situational and falls flat against the good ones

[full nebula]

@carmine falcon same reason there's tons of backwards blessings for all of the weapons. Fatshark bad at design and balancing.

[carmine falcon]

filler spots cause they have to add a fixed number of blessings
give me the funny ds blessings haha

[silk garnet]

Ngl. Psycker great sword feels better than zealot great sword in melee. Idk how to feel about this

Moveset wise. Swings feel better

[full nebula]

Anyone else not like carbonated drinks?

[obtuse stirrup]

CMV: Crusher is a better Thunderhammer atm apart from boss performance

[violet hornet]

Thammer gets more 1 shots on ogryns, that's probably the only benefit right now

[obtuse stirrup]

just discovered the joy of the slaughterer/thrust combo on it

[clever terrace]

I need to try the crusher at some point

[carmine falcon]

slaughterer/skullcrusher = its gaming time

[full nebula]

crusher takes too long to kill armored things

[clever terrace]

Is there a skin where it's just a slab of concrete on a steel pole?

[carmine falcon]

switch to your gun and kill them

[hard nexus]

#zealot-class message

nuh uh

[full nebula]

[carmine falcon]

got the reciept ready and everything damn

[full nebula]

all im saying, is if you hit someone with a helmet, with a fucking 20 pound hammer

I know this isnt exactly realism, but blunt objects against armor is good irl

If anything, something like duelling sword stabbing a helmet is more unrealistic, good luck getting through plate armor without finding an opening

[carmine falcon]

my brother in christ this game isnt going for realism in any aspect
crusher "objectively" kills carpace decently fast

[full nebula]

Not fast enough when you compare it to shit thats broken, and shouldnt really be able to annihilate plate armor

[carmine falcon]

then dont compare it to the broken needle
by that logic any weapon that doesnt kill as fast as ds is shit

[hard nexus]

thing that’s blatantly overpowered is better than thing that is not blatantly over powered

up next, fork found in kitchen!

[full nebula]

Sure but even vs knife its way underpowered, which yes is also a bit overpowered. But it should still do more. You have to invest so much with crusher to get good results, you're basically stuck with meta

[hard nexus]

how are you stuck with meta??

[full nebula]

If you want really good results you pretty much have to run charge, which is meta

[plush estuary]

Meta this meta that, have you tried using tac axe, flamingo

[full nebula]

Yes, tac axe is another weapon that could use some slight buffing

[hard nexus]

also vs knife, crusher has good horde clear

it’s meant to be a generalist weapon, it won’t out perform a thunder hammer in single target, and it won’t out perform a heavy sword in horde clear, but it does both pretty well

[carmine falcon]

invest in what exactly i made it work with the the straightforward crit build posted here that i use for every other big zealot weapon literally

[full nebula]

Im not saying go crazy and make it 1shot crushers on heavy, but you shouldnt need to go mostly meta to make it really good

[hard nexus]

technically meta is stealth, or chorus on havoc

[full nebula]

Bruh, exactly, crit with chrage is the meta build, or momentum

[carmine falcon]

well i dont use charge and crit cause meta i use both because FUN so im covered on that aspect

[full nebula]

I guess but i'm only talking auric, havoc has its own meta thats pretty impossible to get out of

[hard nexus]

2 of 3 options and you’re saying it’s meta? do you actually know what you’re talking about, or are you just being contrarian for the fun of it

@copper hawk @median steeple check this shit out

[full nebula]

Here we go again

[hard nexus]

no it’s not lmfao, i’ve run mk3 evis chastise in h40 and carried

[full nebula]

Read the part after mk3 evis

[hard nexus]

notice how earlier i said chorus is meta in havoc?

[full nebula]

Chrous can be meta if toughness is a concern, but if your team composition is psykers and a vet, you don't really need to worry about it a lot of times

[hard nexus]

also aurics you can run literally anything you want, there’s a meta, sure, but it’s not what you’re required to run

[full nebula]

Yes technically, you can run grey weapons and take 17 hits to kill one crusher indeed. But i'm talking about relatively quickly, not exactly as broken as DS or knife

[hard nexus]

TLDR, crusher is really good, if you feel like you’re forced to run “meta” with it, then skill issue, all 3 keystones work great on crusher

[hard nexus]

literally look at the clip that i linked earlier, and tell me that’s not “fast enough”, killing a crusher in 4 attacks, realistically 3 because i didn’t have max IJ stacks in the clip

[heady rapids]

cant wait for knife and ds to get gutted so we dont get this kinda discussions anymore 🙏 fatfish please

[plush estuary]

They probably wont

[full nebula]

if they'd buff some of the other human weapons it wouldn't be that big of a deal. DS and knife are still going to get used, but people would expand out more if a lot of the human weapons weren't booty.

[grizzled aspen]

I feel like bistol is needed to make it work on piety but yes I agree. (quick puncture for scourge value)

[carmine falcon]

love me crusha
love me embrah
dont care for metah
simple as

[hard nexus]

very few human weapons are definitively bad, and those are the mk3 evis and the dclaw mk1

[carmine falcon]

i put lethal prox on it with crusher

[hard nexus]

you don’t need bolt pistol at

that got patched a while ago unfortunately @carmine falcon

[full nebula]

Not saying some of them are really bad, but just need a bit of tuning. Tac axes for example

[hard nexus]

tac axes are strong already, they do not need buffs

[full nebula]

Idk about that one

[plush estuary]

They are knife level but doesnt have uncanny

[full nebula]

ehhh

[carmine falcon]

damn ive been running on placebo all this time
the abolute state

[full nebula]

Seems stretching it, even cole agrees that they need a buff to some extent

[carmine falcon]

i mean hey if they're gonna buff then hell yeah

[full nebula]

i'm not saying make everything stupidly busted, but quite a few things could use some tuning at the minimum

I also understand if you make weapons really good offmeta that they're going to be stupid onmeta. Which is just a problem with the trees overall

[grizzled aspen]

Actually Cole made a very strong point about them in vet chat the other day, they are hard carried by their talents. If you run taxe on vet without reciprocity or desperado, for example, you're gimping yourself.

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[hard nexus]

i mean running a high finesse weapon benefits from crits and finesse? that’s kind of expected

[modern lintel]

i had a dream i was in shoplifting in a thrift store with tony soprano last night

[tawny walrus]

Did anyone get the jeweled scepter crusher skin in the shop?

[full nebula]

I have the black version of it

[copper hawk]

LMFAOOO troo !!!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

Idk I have a hard time explaining it. I feel like all weapons should be good without needing to build into them, and building into them should make them very strong. Taxe, without building into it, is mid, at best, but building into it makes it an above average weapon.

[tawny walrus]

Does it sparkle?

[copper hawk]

Does it yump the loat ?

[sullen forge]

does it glorple?

[violet hornet]

I remember thinking exactly this about this same person's opinions on hsword a while ago

[copper hawk]

Haaaai Jaaawaaaaa

[frosty herald]

Hiiii cica

[hexed igloo]

Shock maul with rampage and uncanny is meta rn fuck you dumbasses talking bout

Yall ain't even know the meta 😔

[eternal tide]

okay weird question.

was doing auric damns earlier, queued up with a stealth zealot on QP. Start of the match he just beelines to the end of the map, I noticed this after realising were only 3 fighting a monstrosity and an ogryn pack.

What kinda tactic are they doin? Next map transition I call them out and say he wasn't helping and they replied too many enemies... I'm not sure what the guy wants. There was that one time all 3 of us went down and saw he had actual skill to zoom and kill priority targets, but what is even the point...

[plush estuary]

speedrunning, just report and block

[clever swan]

"too many enemies...."

[hexed igloo]

Too many enemies on my high diff match 😡

[tawdry leaf]

Dreams have meaning:

[eternal tide]

speedrunning....? cant they solo that and not drag us with them?

[plush estuary]

yes

[hexed igloo]

"Therss too many enemies on auric damn"

My brother in christ you queued up for it

[eternal tide]

yikes

I did block em afterwards. He died to an overhead after being overwhelmed

[hexed igloo]

Classic

[frosty herald]

Speedrunning is usualy reserved for private games you occasionally have the pub speedrun shitter

[tawny walrus]

I like checking boxes and stuff

[frosty herald]

Even worse is someone doing speedrun tricks and skips in pubs intentionally

[violet hornet]

Hai cica

[eternal tide]

oof :v well thats one blocked anyhow

[clever swan]

my favorite part about darktide is how you can only block people if they're online

you basically need to block them while you're in the game with them or else they might escape your block attempt

[tawny walrus]

They can give you the slip?

[spare dome]

I find it exceedingly rare to even run into the same person twice in a month personally. There is only one person I ever blocked for being repeatedly 'bad' and it was back during the very early days post-launch when the playerbase was only Steam players and we would maybe peak at 3K. Would run into them every other day or at most twice in one day.

And frankly it was less that they sucked at the game and more that they were toxic as shit in chat whenever they were down, which was incredibly frequent.

Everyone else has to say a racial slur to earn a block.

[misty ravine]

I've been seeing repeat names in Havocs because the playerbase for them is so small. Some aren't even named Haveloch

[spare dome]

Yeah but Havocs are already pre-filtered as it were. It'd be pretty weird to need to block players in Havoc when you could already just ... not accept their invite request. That's me anyway.

[modern lintel]

i run into the same people pretty frequently tbh

[clever swan]

i once got rejected by a guy for havoc (not really high level) and i realized i had blocked him. he most likely remembered me and was like "hell nah"

[stone fern]

my block list is 2% racism/talking trash in chat and everything else is purposefully fucking over other players

had one ogryn that refused to let anyone else have ammo i was at orange and some else was at red and he dead ass walked to two ammo things i pinged and picked them up at white WHITE. 🚬 first person i ever kicked

[modern lintel]

he was hungry

[stone fern]

i pinged two ammo things and he dead ass trudged over and took them he prolly got 1 ammo out of the second one

[clever swan]

ogryn roleplaying went too far, he didnt know how to count and it ruined it for everyone

[white kernel]

Yeah im finding darktide has all the same playerbase issues vermintide had. So my zealot is purely for specialists no one focuses on. x.x

I swear 5 trappers could be roaming around and they'd still be horde clearing.

[placid fiber]

target priority is probably something that every game's playerbase has an issue with(as far as the randos go)

[stone fern]

disablers are easier to see in darktide for me
i played vt2 for like 3 hours and spent most of them being hooked by a rat

[white kernel]

I should have learned from my days of raid leading heroics in wow, guess my hope for humanity is still going a bit too strong

[clever swan]

at least they're just incompetent and not evil, i suppose

[white kernel]

Classic vermintide 2 gameplay loop

[placid fiber]

🪝 🐀

[white kernel]

On the flip side flame staff psyker has been my go to for straight up heretic slaughter.

[sturdy wraith]

Damn
Melta sucks

[white kernel]

Melta?

[misty nova]

Shin megami
I mean
Space Marines 2
Probably

[grizzled aspen]

Have you considered maybe possibly dodging the hook rat?

[placid fiber]

💯

[potent gate]

Hard to dodge if you can't see them and they make minimal sound

[placid fiber]

It's even worse if you have latency because you aren't the host

[potent gate]

Spam tagger 2

[stone fern]

i cant even see disblers in vt2 everything is so much harder to see

[winged aspen]

Im saying this from a place of love. It’s not that hard to see them

[tawny walrus]

Sigmar bless this ravaged body

[placid fiber]

blighstormers also can spawn way far away

[stone fern]

eh maybe idk dont have much time in vt2

[winged aspen]

Play chaos wastes

[placid fiber]

Yeah, clad, I can drag your ass through a chaos wastes run lol

[stone fern]

i have zero dlc for vt2

[placid fiber]

It's not a dlc lol

[stone fern]

my sienna is like level 5

[placid fiber]

And?

[stone fern]

🚬 if levelling on dt is bad its worse in vt2

[winged aspen]

Play MY KING Saltzpyre or MY GOAT BARDIN

[placid fiber]

Leveling in vt2 isn't that bad unless you're trying to run champion or legend on a level 10 character lol

[potent gate]

Vt2 is way easier atm and besides I still think there is double exp weekends

[sturdy wraith]

The flamethrower

[full nebula]

The new itemization on vt2 makes getting material ect a lot easier and faster

[remote lark]

A

[hexed igloo]

Why do people using 🚬 always have the most dogshit takes ever witnessed lmao I've never seen 🚬 followed by a good take

[clever swan]

ironic...........

[hexed igloo]

🚬

[hexed igloo]

What if it isn't bait, huh? What if it truly is unfiltered dogshit opinion? What will you do?

[stone fern]

🚬

[grizzled aspen]

Noob. 🚬

[grizzled aspen]

B

[stone fern]

i will not rest until the entire discord is nothing but 🫡 🚬 and 😭

[white kernel]

Sounds like a skill issue

[tight fog]

the horus heresy is shit 🚬

[visual stream]

Go to send a meme to my pride and joy zealot chat, remember mods are evil, get sadge..
||We had it coming tbh||

[modern lintel]

[cinder roost]

[rough galleon]

Open reddit
See claims that mk15 evis has significantly better horde clear than mk2 because mk2's heavy 1 is bad
Close reddit

[misty nova]

(they are right)

[cinder roost]

hold lmb is easier than h/l spam

[misty nova]

Evis 3 is shit right now
Better off with the Chainsword Xiiig

[misty ravine]

right now

[full nebula]

fatshark should make every weapon do identical damage so theres no misbalance in the game

[misty nova]

ahem
Lemme correct that
Evis3 has always been shit
Yeah that's better

Oh and I know your eviscerators senses are tingling Meow
It's not personal, you know that

[remote lark]

@hard nexus mk3 slander

[spare talon]

meow knows evis 3 is shit, but wants it to be better

[misty ravine]

Ah yes, the Payday 2 melee balance approach

[hard nexus]

mk3 is bad lmfao

[remote lark]

i wonder what the worst weapon zealot has is
smaul doesn't feel that bad

[tight fog]

achlys combat axe

[misty nova]

Tactical axe

[remote lark]

leave

[grizzled aspen]

It's mk1 dclaw and it's not even close.

[misty ravine]

Mk1 Dclaw?
One of the Taxe marks is bad isn't it?

[rough galleon]

The point is not whether it's shit
The point is that old mate is saying the mk15 is significantly better at horde clear, thinks the target caps are 3, and that mk2 h1 has the cap

[placid fiber]

Frog has a point, the mk1 dclaw is ass

[misty nova]

[grizzled aspen]

Mk1 dclaw literally doesn't have single target attacks.

[placid fiber]

l3, but, yeah it sucks ass(just ilke it did in vt2)

[hard nexus]

it has a minimum damage of like 33, and falls off extremely fast, so it doesn’t have the damage cap but it may as well

mk15 on the other hand can kill 6 enemies per swing on revved L1 spam with bloodthirsty

[misty nova]

The cleave damage distribution on the Evis3 H1 is horrendous

[hard nexus]

#zealot-class message

like so

[placid fiber]

the mk3 eviscerator still vastly outclasses the mk1 dclaw

[remote lark]

kid named zealot tutorial shovel

[placid fiber]

still better than the mk1 dclaw

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii can I beat you with hammers pretty please??? :3

(You are making me annoyed that we don't have shovel to abuse on martyr builds)

[stone fern]

evi3 has a better moveset than evi15 it feels like it has actual weight to it meanwhile evi15 feels like a pool noodle

the uhhhh H2? on evi the heavy sideways slice feels amazing

[spare talon]

i will pulverize you

[placid fiber]

Cole about to open a can of whoop ass on higui

[misty nova]

Not with a tactical axe you won't 🏃‍➡️

[stone fern]

special spam

[modern lintel]

liar

[lunar fable]

you've said this too many times now

[silver stag]

Kill her

[misty ravine]

"Computer, give Zealot access to the Force Greatsword. Recolor the visual effects gold and name it the 'Miracle Sword'. Make the special attack gain triple the normal damage bonus from Martyrdom. Lock Holodeck doors and disengage safety protocols."

[misty nova]

ahem
It's Cogitator 🤓

[spare talon]

oh yeah i will
jarvis, link my solo boss maelstrom on chasm station with the taxe

[misty ravine]

You're a Cogitator

[misty nova]

Friday, send them a message telling that I won't be impressed but I do respect the grind

[placid fiber]

Jarvis: puts up a video of Cole swinging a pool noodle around

[grizzled aspen]

Hes just gonna knife movetech away from you so you can't catch him.

[grizzled aspen]

More like, "Computer, give zealout access to shovels. Make martyrs purpose not shit. Queue CIVI auric maelstrom. Disengage safety protocols."

[spare talon]

honestly the contenders for worst melee weapon on zealot can only be mk4 taxe and mk1 dclaw

[placid fiber]

the mk4 taxe has armor damage access...

[modern lintel]

jarvis link cole attempting to purg staff the green burster

[grizzled aspen]

It's still mk1 dclaw, and it's not even close.

[misty nova]

"Servoskull, play Disposal Unit bass boosted 1 hour mix, maximum volume"

[spare talon]

and the fact that mk4 taxe has only sweeping lights with brutal momentum and also better finesse scaling with zealot talents
mk1 is definitely much worse

[misty nova]

But what about them parries

[full nebula]

See people were shitting on me earlier for suggesting taxes need a slight buff

[spare talon]

it also HAS single target, granted its shit single target (heavy overhead profiles match sweep heavy profiles of the other marks)

[grizzled aspen]

"Muh rending parry" brother just oneshot the enemy with a duellist taxe chastise headshot.

[placid fiber]

^

[spare talon]

every single push attack and heavy attack on taxes are identical numerically
damage, cleave, cleave damage, everything that isnt angle

[tight fog]

achlys axe is also on the list of dawgshit weapons for sure

[grizzled aspen]

It's definitely on there but dclaw still takes the cake for shittiest shit.

[misty nova]

Rending parry when rending heavy comes in

[spare talon]

im currently trying to push for tune ups on both dclaw and taxe
whether they do so is anyones guess but still

[frosty herald]

do not buff taxes shit is expensive enough as is

[grizzled aspen]

If we don't get an adm buff on dclaw I'm going to kiss you on the mouth.

[spare talon]

now im being threatened

[grizzled aspen]

Be afraid.

[tight fog]

like if achlys axe has a bit of cleave on its heavy, or even just on its sprinting diagonal heavy, it might be worth something or at least be a bit interesting

[misty nova]

I mean
Still an axe so it'll end up having a better time killing stuff
(Ignore the 0.001 cleave on most of the moveset)

[untold junco]

GEEEEEEZ finally finished auric damnation rolling steel

[spare talon]

bromentum exists

[grizzled aspen]

(Mods, for legal purposes, this is a joke.)

[frosty herald]

we should get more marks for standalone weapons like bolter flamer crusher etc

[tight fog]

i feel like the taxes are genuinely better cause of higher attack speed. achlys moveset you cant really take advantage of BM at all unless youre doing deranged things with the camera. so its slow and the moves are bad

[full nebula]

Fatshart higher-ups plzzz 😭

[untold junco]

we should get meltagun and longlas 😔

[grizzled aspen]

Gimme a flamer that just lobs giant globs of fire.

[frosty herald]

gel based flamer with sticky fire

[sullen forge]

Napalm..

[full nebula]

If they'd just do some slight buffing to a handful of human weapons, they'd get used so much more. Same goes for ogryns weapons

[frosty herald]

(before you ask yes gel based prometium exists in 40k)

[grizzled aspen]

Me whipping out a meltagun and instantly vaporizing four crushers: (I got a crit)

[misty nova]

Close enough
Welcome back Drillers Lingering Flames

[misty ravine]

Give Braced Autoguns giant drum mags (or just change the model to be belt fed) and make them proper LMG analogues. Trading ammo for suppressed enemies is well and good but the current exchange rate is not worth

[untold junco]

Me vaporizing plague ogryn head with a single shot from longlas (i hit him in the ankle)

[sullen forge]

Should be given to Zealot instead

[grizzled aspen]

Chat, today we eat Gale.

[full nebula]

They should just do a baseline like they did with hammer. X weapon should be able to kill Y enemy in so many hits/do so much damage.

[misty nova]

You can have my share of cartilage

[frosty herald]

Its funny how ogryn got the first deticated sniper weapon with heavy stubber

[steel agate]

sorry the best i can offer is a handful of gale

[misty ravine]

Melta Gun added to game; inexplicably made a Finesse Weapon—traitor ogryns on suicide watch

[full nebula]

An actual human sniper rifle with a proper scope would be so nice

[misty nova]

Sharpshooter Heavy Machine Gun

[full nebula]

Everyone's been so busy talking about DS, a lot of people forgot how broken the revolver is, and how it has barely anything to compete with it.

[grizzled aspen]

I haven't run revolver in ages.

[frosty herald]

I like it as a spin on just a generic lmg heavy stubber

[grizzled aspen]

Zealout has no use for revolver, you have tknives for a reason. Psyker doesn't either, two of your blitzes are made for specialist hunting and your third can just knock them down so you can instakill them in melee. Vet has better options than revolver.

[spare talon]

its competing with the bolt pistol, which has seen a spike in usage due to the fact it has more ammo capacity and thus is better for dealing with both ranged elites and specialists
revolver is great at that too but is better against armor, but most people are running duelling sword or relic blade that they dont need that strong armor damage anyway, so many people have been using revolver much less and thust talking about it much less

[full nebula]

Throwing knives dont cleave multiple ragers and gunners

[grizzled aspen]

Who's gonna tell him about manstopper tknives?

[misty ravine]

Revolver also falls off a cliff in Havoc as it stops hitting breakpoints

[spare talon]

that too

[full nebula]

Revolver isn't as good in havoc just based on ammo economy, that's another issue entirely

[frosty herald]

Manstopper knives are a meme and not used seriously

[grizzled aspen]

I find them to be completely serious. It's hilarious and effective to get a crit tknife take out 6 ragers before they can touch anybody.

[misty ravine]

Carlos Hathcock would be proud

[misty nova]

Can't believe Revolver is becoming a "hidden" gem after all this time

[full nebula]

Bolt pistol definitely gets used more which is great, but we still have plenty of guns that don't get picked because of the few that pull way ahead.

[spare talon]

its more that its niche is being already covered up by new things/existing things working in tandem

[frosty herald]

The meta evolves overtime so people would rather use havoc 40 stuff rather than stuff that dominates damnation

[full nebula]

Yeah, more like powercreep is making it less and less favorable lol

[frosty herald]

Also i just realized ogryn stole zealot's toughness damage resistance on bleed as a talent lmao

[sullen forge]

trolled

[misty ravine]

How would chat Make Autopistol Great Again

[full nebula]

Anything @misty ravine

[frosty herald]

Give it puncture

[spare talon]

power creep is a part of it in regards to duelling sword stealing its armor role, but not the only factor

[grizzled aspen]

Crank the fuck out of damage vs infested, unarmored, and maniac.

[spare talon]

if you wanna go down that route, fletchette would be more balanced
still stupid broken but not as stupid broken

[clever swan]

why do you always spell zealot zealout

[grizzled aspen]

Because the adjective is spelled "zealous."

[frosty herald]

flechette yes (make autopistol a crit centered weapon)

[sullen forge]

Rename it to Hollow Point and then it wont look weird on the AP gun lmao

[mighty root]

@spare talon how many gunner res do you run again?

[spare talon]

because frog doesnt realize that there can be nuance to the english language

[sullen forge]

like gray and grey

[grizzled aspen]

Yo mama.

[spare talon]

it already has cavalcade despite abysmal crit damage lmao

[spare talon]

3

[frosty herald]

Cole dont ask me about autopistol blessings i havent looked at the list at all since launch for it lmfao😂

[full nebula]

Havoc has its own problems with meta and balancing. Idk how tf theyd go about that, anything i say you can assuming I'm referring to normal auric. I know a lot of people don't realize it, but a lot of people don't even bother with havoc at all. Look at your average player in auric quickplay.

[sullen forge]

well its cause Havoc isn't meant for everyone, and I'll be honest im contempt with that hence why I occasionally play it instead of always play it

[clever swan]

from Ancient Greek ζῆλος (zêlos, “zeal, jealousy”), from ζηλόω (zēlóō, “to emulate, to be jealous”).

[spare talon]

the root word is zeal lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Yo mama, a second time.

[sullen forge]

I hit H40 already multiple times so now I just have it as a "If I want to do it" gamemode

[clever swan]

zealot doesnt even seem like a real word anymore, shit..

[frosty herald]

Havoc exists for me as long as i dont have the 20 weekly caches penance

[full nebula]

I still need the rest of the outfit which I want. Other than that though the only thing I want is the banner for getting like 20 rewards/100 havocs

[sullen forge]

Completely valid also LMAO, besides you see someone with that you know damn well they've been playing for sometime that or 53rd set

[frosty herald]

I just want randomized map layouts in the game like chaos wastes without the roguelike BS or randomized loadouts attached to it

[misty nova]

A second Yo Mama has hit Cole

[full nebula]

See something about the set though, you can complete any difficulty. The only thing that's actually gated is the legs. So you could get the rest just doing malice level shit

[misty ravine]

I heard rumors that was what Darktide was planned to have by default, but they couldn't get it working and went with the traditional type of maps instead

[frosty herald]

Im sure they can get it working eventually

[misty ravine]

But will they

[frosty herald]

We got versus eventually

[solar gorge]

it is true, this is why we got mutiple maps taking place in the same environment

[full nebula]

They should make a mode where you can choose the path you want to take. I.e maps in the same sector, choose to complete different ways. If that's possible

[grizzled aspen]

@spare talon how many stacks of bleed do shredders deal?

[spare talon]

6

[misty ravine]

Sounds like the map screen from Chaos Wastes

[full nebula]

Yes but live, go from vigil station before the elevator, and decide to go silo cluster instead

[plain dragon]

Brothers and Sisters, how do I optimize the flamer into being a primary weapon? I feel as though the Heretics have it too easy

[misty ravine]

decide to go to silo cluster
Please no

[full nebula]

Yes

[grizzled aspen]

You don't.

[plain dragon]

Shame, I'm gonna figure it out on my own then

Don't care if it's subpar I love fire

[full nebula]

@plain dragon nobody really says it but this is a mostly melee focused game. You can use a gun for elites and whatnot, but you're gonna be hard pressed to not use your melee at all.

[misty ravine]

Zealot is not a lovable down-on-his-luck rascal like Ogryn (he's shooting his twin linked stubber again! Haha look at him go!) so your team will not funnel you the ammo

[hard nexus]

more flak damage and unyielding damage

[hexed igloo]

Fill it with bolter rounds

[misty nova]

You optimize your ammo pickups
Rush ahead get all the ammo
Surely your team doesn't need it
Anyways avoid IJ, you'll shoot really fast or something

[spare talon]

Overpressure blaze away
Flak and whatever armor type you hate the most

It's not a weapon that works as a primary weapon also
It's too ammo hungry and inefficient in situations where stuff isn't grouped or funneled

[plain dragon]

I know it's melee focused (all fatshark games play the same) but the flamethrower feels too much like a utility than an actual weapon if that makes sense

[grizzled aspen]

Something about "local man mad at sandbags."

[stone fern]

give zealot a second one and make it a dual wield weapon unironically would just make it usable

[misty nova]

Remember that you can bash with the flamer

[full nebula]

It kinda is, it's better for melting trash and whatnot. It's not bad for ragers and elite gunners, but other than that it's not crazy good.

[hexed igloo]

Optimal flamer build = just use it like a club

[plain dragon]

Are things not literally always bunched up in small hordes

Also my regular group has a survivalist so I'm not really afraid of ammo running out. And if it does then I'm still playing the best equipped class for that scenario

[misty ravine]

Brace of Autopistols when

[silk garnet]

Flamer is cracked I love flamer

[hard nexus]

parrying overheads should be a thrust instead of a sweep and deal really good armor and finesse damage t b h

[stone fern]

in 4 patches BELIEVE

[plain dragon]

Ogryn tier advice thank you Slab

[silk garnet]

I hate auto pistol so much. What is this even used for

[full nebula]

Nothing it's bad

[hexed igloo]

Only thing I want at this point is that huge fucking flamer with a chainsaw that's on a figurine somewhere

[stone fern]

for giving yourself a handicap

[naive stirrup]

it's a stagger machine

[misty nova]

It used to be super op
They nerfed the blessings it used
So it's total hot garbage
Except against Maniacs

[solar gorge]

i can fix autopistol by making it akimbo, now it's p cool

[silk garnet]

The only way to make the auto pistol usable is to maybe make it have infinite ammo. At least in it's current state

[stone fern]

i levelled with that gun i shot a trapper 6 bullets and it still didnt stagger her

[plain dragon]

For level one zealots to waste my ammo when I help newbies

[naive stirrup]

[hexed igloo]

They should make the autopistol just shoot directly backwards, so if you ads and fire it just instantly kills you I think that'd be a good buff

[full nebula]

Farttide two handed weapons when? Duel wield sorry, brain no worky

[misty ravine]

So OP it was meta even for Psykers when the game didn't even have talent support for gunker

[misty nova]

Martyrdom tech

[full nebula]

Can we get a brainless meta melta gun like sm2?

[hexed igloo]

Bolter?

[misty ravine]

Melee + Pistol is such an iconic part of 40k, but if the game wasn't designed for them from the outset it's hard to imagine them being added years later

[misty nova]

Plasma?

[hexed igloo]

Nah you need to think a little with plasma to have it not blow your ass up

[full nebula]

Still not as brainless as sm2 melta tbh, that shit was so brain dead jfc

[steel agate]

still is imo, just gotta get the long ranged one

[misty nova]

Except you don't
Just M1 it'll never explode

[plain dragon]

Chainsword and Stub Pistol should unironically be added to the game for Zealots and Veterans

[misty ravine]

Then again it may be possible to just hack something together where if you have a 1-handed melee and a pistol equipped, both show up on screen, you still have to switch weapon to go between but it would be almost instantaneous.

[hexed igloo]

They should add a slab shield with 2 bolters welded to either side of it so you can just hold w and m1 and win

[steel agate]

vanguard grapple + melta rifle = heretics melted

[full nebula]

They exist already tho

[sour oxide]

Haven’t been in here for a while. Same ole gooning

[misty nova]

Less*
Mods told them to pipe down

[hexed igloo]

Slower gooning, unfortunately

[plain dragon]

Or just do what Vermintide 1&2 already did and have a sword with a pistol shot as a special action.

[sour oxide]

Yeah what did you all do.

[full nebula]

Someone was posting porn

[grizzled aspen]

Check pins.

[misty ravine]

I mean for adding them as a combo for any 1H melee + pistol

[sour oxide]

So now the porn just comes slower?

[full nebula]

No embeds.jpg

[hexed igloo]

We've been grounded no image posting 😔

[plain dragon]

Could actually see it being an Axe and Pistol

Light combo is
Axe Swing L2R -> Axe Swing R2L -> Pistol Whip

Heavy combo is
Overhead Axe swing -> Haymaker with pistol (L2R)

Special Action fires the stub pistol

[sour oxide]

Become ungovernable dms it is

[sterile stone]

Going all about it wrong, give zealot an ability similar to Krieg, instead of going down they just start throwing a assload of grenades and can't get rezzed until they kill something with a self detonation or with a grenade kill

[stone fern]

yeah its right under the mods pinning other shitposts 🙄

hey guys its time to be serious
except this one shitpost right here

[misty ravine]

They could do a little trolling at the same time by making weapon switches take much longer if you have equipped both a 2H melee and 2H ranged (tknife animation canceling "fixed" in the same patch)

[plain dragon]

Saltzpyre's rapier and pistol wasn't that unbalanced despite being a ranged option with unlimited ammo

[stone fern]

🤔 i disagree

[violet hornet]

ASCII porn is back on the menu

[steel agate]

love me some low dmg high stagger shot that's effected by witch hunter's passive

[full nebula]

Alright tho, but on a real note. Darktide billhook when? GIVE ME POWER BILLHOOK REEEEEEE

[sterile stone]

Not everyone can comprehend greatness

[misty ravine]

low dmg
Didn't it two-shot Maulers (albeit at point blank, the falloff with range was severe)

[hexed igloo]

Well what happnes if you eat Freddy fazbears pizza csue whn you eet feddy fve bfres pzza He gos hrf hrf hrf he hrf har he hadrdf he hrf and den he

[sour oxide]

My brain hurts

[full nebula]

And this is after slowmode

[steel agate]

when i shoot beastmen with mine it doesnt kill them, not unless the passive procs (crit headshot)

[hexed igloo]

This is pinned to my phone clipboard along with the Bing chilling thing

[plain dragon]

The maulers arguably deserved it even then

[hexed igloo]

Zǎoshang hǎo zhōngguó xiànzài wǒ yǒu BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 wǒ hěn xǐhuān BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 dànshì sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 bǐ BING CHILLING 🥶🍦 sùdù yǔ jīqíng sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 wǒ zuì xǐhuān suǒyǐ…xiànzài shì yīnyuè shíjiān zhǔnbèi 1 2 3 liǎng gè lǐbài yǐhòu sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 ×3 bùyào wàngjì bùyào cu òguò jìdé qù diànyǐngyuàn kàn sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 yīn wéi fēicháng hǎo diànyǐng dòngzuò fēicháng hǎo chàbùduō yīyàng BING CHILLING 🥶🍦zàijiàn 🥶🍦

[plain dragon]

Also Guardsmen use spears where's my power lance for zealot

[frosty herald]

BING CHILLING🥶 🍦

[plain dragon]

Give us Chain Halberds fatshark

[full nebula]

Sorry I don't speak Italian

[sour oxide]

I’ll gladly take the game not eatting my inputs causing sticky weapon swaps and and accidental desk pops

[solar gorge]

only after ogryn gets barefists

[hexed igloo]

Me when I don't speak italian

[hard nexus]

it did more damage than the heavies at close range iirc

[plain dragon]

Tbf it was a pistol shot

[misty nova]

Real
Anyways here's the unrelated 100% crit 1hk headshot Witch Hunter Captain
Oh yeah it has nothing to do with the implementation of dual wield

[hard nexus]

wha

[misty nova]

The arc was weird as well

[hard nexus]

huh

[misty nova]

Fym huh
You never went attack speed 100% crit WHC?

[full nebula]

where my whc billhookers at

[misty nova]

That rapier went mighty fast
Zoooom

[solar gorge]

pickaxe is close enough, welcome back vt2 billhook

[full nebula]

Rapier also fun and good

[hard nexus]

ohg that yeah

[misty ravine]

Stormvermin walk up to you and their faces just melt

[full nebula]

Pickaxe has the right idea. But I need it to be faster

[plain dragon]

Okay okay unironically Zealot needs crossbows tho the Ordo Hereticus uses them all the time

[full nebula]

Power crossbow when?

[plain dragon]

Catechist Pattern Stake crossbows have 15 round magazines of silvered, prayer inscribed adamantine stakes

[full nebula]

repeating power crossbow that cleaves when

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-cool-shoot-woah-sparks-gif-15140625

[full nebula]

megamindnoembed?.gif

[solar gorge]

this is actually related to power crossbows you just have to trust

[misty ravine]

Would be pretty funny if they were dogshit against Flakapace and mid vs anything else, but absurdly high damage bonus vs Beast of Nurgle and allowed you to crown Daemonhosts like the L4D Witch

[plain dragon]

Unironically yeah give it absurd Infested/Unyielding damage and make it mediocre at best against anything else

BoN? Dead. Daemonhost? The dracula treatment. A Chaos Spawn? Not even a problem.

A gunner? insert Oblivion "why won't you die?!" clip

[full nebula]

tbh id like to see some kind of weapon for psyker similar to bardins throwing axes

[misty ravine]

Like some kind of infinitely replenishing psychic projectile?

[full nebula]

yes i know assail is a thing

im talking an actual weapon of sorts, just lightning it back to your hand or some shit

[zealous mesa]

The last weapon they added that didn't one shot things was the shock mace, I figure any new weapon will have some insane finesse stab attack
Can you imagine just tossing your melee at a crusher to one shot and it just bounces back so you can repeat it

[misty ravine]

Telekinetic force sword would be neat and all, but again I don't foresee them adding it.

[zealous mesa]

All it would require is a semblance of aim

[full nebula]

I'm not suggesting something that op, bardins axes are a little broken themselves. Kill a chaos warrior in 2-3 hits on cata

[zealous mesa]

Weapons on their own in Darktide aren't necessarily op, it's the blessings and talents that make them ridiculous

[full nebula]

and talent trees, yes you mention i cant read

[zealous mesa]

example: Rashad brutal momentum duellist on zealot, Rashad bm precision strike desperado veteran

Without that the Rashad is a single target axe that just deals consistently big single target damage with limited cleave on push attacks

With those talents it turns your brain off and paired with shout the only way you lose is by being an actual moron

[hard nexus]

ehh ds4 has always been OP, now it’s just on another level thanks to talents pushing it even further

[zealous mesa]

True but it was limited to psyker who had to push up peril and play somewhat dangerously, and takes a while to cut through many enemies

Veteran doesn't have to build any stacks, just aim for the head

[hard nexus]

balanced class btw

[zealous mesa]

If you play like I do (like I'm still rank 20) veteran is kinda weak in melee

In most cases I rely on my teammates to deal with crushers and maulers and shoot everything else and bruisers and poxers get the devils claw

Zealot has a ranged tree but you lose out on a lot of melee help for being more accurate in hipfire or gaining toughness on ranged kills

90% of meta vet gameplay is shout heavy stab quick plasma shot

Ideally (to me) only zealot and ogryn should have a chance of one shotting crushers in melee I think and that would only be with like shroudfield or branx pick or flip shovel

[full nebula]

really need the maxed out talent tree to properly judge, the full tree makes a big difference on all the characters tbh

[hard nexus]

havoc 20? or level 20?

[zealous mesa]

Level 20 because I like inflas and exy stance

[full nebula]

vet with ds4 and thrust can easily 1shot crushers reliably

[hard nexus]

the ranges tree is terrible lol

the only ranged talents that matter are anoint in blood, dance of death, and IJ, (duelist too but it’s less consistent in ranged combat)

everything else is more or less irrelevant

[zealous mesa]

Yeah that just shouldn't be a thing

[misty ravine]

But muh stealth ambuscade meme

[zealous mesa]

Shout and just walk around to each crusher on the floor and stab them all once

[hard nexus]

one magging a beast of nurgle is pretty funny tbf…

[full nebula]

shout is op as is, but thats another issue entirely

[opal star]

I fw sainted gunslinger

[hard nexus]

if only the talents leading up to it weren’t terrible

[zealous mesa]

One of my favorite darktide memories was on like malice when I was still leveling up my first class and someone would knock over a crusher and the whole team would sprint over to hack at them with axes and shovels

[full nebula]

this game needs elected representatives who can help with balancing and shit. Playtesters are supposed to be that but fatshart corporate doesn't listen to much

[zealous mesa]

Because crushers were basically mini bosses and nobody knew how to dodge reliably yet

[hard nexus]

i should be a playtester…

[copper hawk]

I should be a senator

[silk garnet]

I should be the zealot....

[zealous mesa]

You should be eating hylotl

[hard nexus]

if i get enough people to vote for me do u think i could be a playtester

[frosty herald]

Ye (do refer me when you make it big)

[full nebula]

no make me a playtester because my opinions are the right ones

[copper hawk]

Probably not

[hard nexus]

(coming from the guy that thinks crusher is bad btw)

[acoustic dune]

ey ey zealot
when are we getting a skill tree overhaul?

[full nebula]

every weapon should do the same damage and 1shot every enemy including bosses so everything is consistent

[copper hawk]

Remember that Ancient of all ppl is a pter

[hard nexus]

frown.

[full nebula]

I only said crusher was bad to throw gas on the fire before

[copper hawk]

Ur not straight or male pookie sorry

[acoustic dune]

counterpoint fuck 1shotting
lemme punch them fast enough that i can down a enemy under a 0.5 sec

[hard nexus]

how it feels to say “i was joking” after being wrong for 30 minutes (it’s a cop out)

[full nebula]

off meta weapons could still use some balancing, but that still has the problem of the trees enabling shit to be broken af\

[opal star]

autopistol still bottom tier somehow

[full nebula]

whatever you need to tell yourself so you feel like you won

[copper hawk]

Here we go againz ,,

[hard nexus]

heh, yeah,,… that’ll show them…. looks in mirror and alpha wolf looks back

[opal star]

cica do you fw starbound

[full nebula]

awshitherewegoagain.jpg, all we had to do was follow the damn train, cj

[frosty herald]

Cyn crashout

[opal star]

maybe this channel deserved to have its rights revoked

[hard nexus]

oh my god WHY DO PEOPLE SAY “crashout” OVER THE SLIGHTEST THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

growl…..

[zealous mesa]

This made me start drawing bird people and also made me better at drawing human faces

[frosty herald]

I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU

[full nebula]

This dudes refering the an argument we had months ago, in which i did say the crusher was shit purely to piss people off. i was saying it needed some buffing and whatnot, but I jumped to the extreme when everyone starting dogpiling

[untold junco]

why people write sfx in their posts

fart...

[full nebula]

Three days grace is a dookie band tbh

[frosty herald]

i cant post my tien gif so imagine me posting it after i say i hate

[opal star]

I believe this is called being cringe on purpose

[hard nexus]

because it’s funny

[copper hawk]

Used 2 i just love florans

[frosty herald]

cyn im 24 now👴

[opal star]

damn
I'm more of a glitch fan myself but florans are cool too

[hard nexus]

you are a relic.

go wither into dust old man.

[acoustic dune]

wait how does that work?

[untold junco]

Novakid gang

[copper hawk]

Downvotez u all

[hard nexus]

human gang

[untold junco]

Nuru is cute af tho

[opal star]

#zealot-class stocks tanking

[median steeple]

Finally

[untold junco]

at this point im sitting here and waiting for new downvote emotes under meow's post

[copper hawk]

All these cool racez and u pick human..

[untold junco]

bro plays dnd as human fighter

[opal star]

human fighter vs tiefling sorcerer who's winning the mid-off

[obsidian prairie]

2024 rules fire Goliath monk is my most recent

[untold junco]

tiefling warlock you mean?

[opal star]

any charisma caster really

[obsidian prairie]

Only second level atm but going for reworked Elements at 3rd

[untold junco]

Tiefling Monk Way of Astral Self or gae

[median steeple]

Human or warforged is my go to

[visual stream]

Are both not pretty strong?
Or do you mean how interesting they are

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[opal star]

the second bit

[median steeple]

They're only as boring as the people who play them

[visual stream]

NOT NICE CICER TAKE IT BACK

[obsidian prairie]

But new rules for Elements are cool, it’s a form (with +10ft reach and freely choosable damage type) + lots of other fun toys instead of off brand sorcery points now

[median steeple]

If you can't make it work, skissue to the highest degree

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[opal star]

too bad all the D&D servers I'm in stick to 2014 rules
cuz I do like a big amount of the 2024 buffs to content
and spell changes
esp with the conjure spells

[copper hawk]

Zame

[misty ravine]

What 2014 rules?

[visual stream]

You really did it this time.. 🐺 🌕

[obsidian prairie]

2024 rules are so cool

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[untold junco]

Four Elements is poor man's Avatar

[visual stream]

I like them so far

[obsidian prairie]

It’s good now!!!!!!!!

[untold junco]

Why play monk that can cast like 4 spells if i can play actual caster class

[obsidian prairie]

(Also monk in general is good now, massively buffed)

[visual stream]

Punch funny

[hallow oxide]

Is the antax combat axe any good?

[untold junco]

Human Fighter can be interesting, but most people just go for "BBG KILLED MY FAMILY AND I TOOK UP MY FATHER'S SWORD"

[frosty herald]

Artificer monk multiclass crafting a powerfist out of 20 wooden board

[untold junco]

which i can do on cooler monk subclasses

[obsidian prairie]

Because instead of spells it’s a form that gives you 15ft unarmed strikes and elemental damage that can change every attack, fireball for 2 focus, flight during the form, a damaging dash attack, and bonuses to most of these at max

[hard nexus]

insert character getting tomatoes thrown at her here

[untold junco]

Astral Self gives you four arms, check mate

[visual stream]

While tiefling sorcerer was out having sex and partying.. I studied hte blade

[sullen forge]

holy shit im gonna find your decrepit remains in a tomb from eons ago

[opal star]

hold person:

[hard nexus]

LOL

[obsidian prairie]

Monk save rerolls:

[opal star]

failing anyway:
(I've been cursed with this the last time I played monk)

[visual stream]

Is there somehting funny meow..

[misty ravine]

Several fantasy races and classes to choose from

Roll up Male Human Fighter with Longsword

Time to game.

[hard nexus]

rich kid with parents who trained them super well in sword fighting, gets bored so starts adventuring for the hell of it

[obsidian prairie]

Either way 2024 monk is so much better

[opal star]

true

[untold junco]

Nah, that's Samurai Fighter subclass. At least it has some semi-interesting stuff

[hallow oxide]

Is the Antax combat axe any good?

[untold junco]

Like, hastened lvl 20 samurai that dies at correct moment can do like 20+ attacks in one turn

[visual stream]

We don't talk about Darktide here, scurry on
Jk yeah it's pretty good when built right afaIk

[misty nova]

Yes

[misty ravine]

Yes, but Rashad is better

[obsidian prairie]

Being able to drop 2d6+6 damage per round at first level is nasty

[hallow oxide]

In what way?

[obsidian prairie]

Almost all of them

[hard nexus]

i like human sorcerer because i get the orbital death ray (sickening radiance)

[copper hawk]

Nurgle coded

[obsidian prairie]

I’m probably not going to play a caster for a while, I want to play around with Mastery

[hard nexus]

it’s called aura bruh

[sullen forge]

Nurgles blessings are strong with this one

[untold junco]

I'm gonna cast polymorph self into a moth, forget what i was doing due to 1 INT and go eat some curtains

[zealous mesa]

because i like to play as humans but i thought the bird people were cool so i would draw stuff from the game with my friend

[hard nexus]

i cast mothballs

[visual stream]

Warlock randomly having powers that they didn't make a bargain or ask for at levels 1 and 2:

What if they just said "no" at third level mark

[untold junco]

i cast deez

[copper hawk]

I looooove florans

[acoustic dune]

i still dont get how drawing bird beak make you draw better human

[untold junco]

nose=beak

[acoustic dune]

the idea they have a beak instead of a nose and also a mouth
is smth

[misty ravine]

Mainly that Rashad gets the Finesse stat that boosts crit and headshot damage, whereas the Antax has Cleave Targets instead which help it do a little more damage to like the 4th poxwalker you cleave or something like that.

Should also mention the Combat Axe has poor horde clear unless it has Brutal Momentum (it should) and does enough damage to kill its first target in one light attack headshot (which it might not depending on how much it's Empowered, what difficulty you are in, how many Headtaker stacks you have, etc).

[untold junco]

this is why you arent an artist

[hallow oxide]

Flamer for hordes?

[acoustic dune]

bold of you calling me not a artist
for the guy who cause the downfall of zeal chat
with drawings

[copper hawk]

Bolter

[hallow oxide]

But fire 😔

[copper hawk]

Rashad w bm has amazing horde clear

[hallow oxide]

Better than the tactical axe?

[copper hawk]

I learned recently that bm triggers on bosses

[hard nexus]

manstopper can cleave through a 128 bosses

[copper hawk]

Wayyyy better lmfao

[untold junco]

pics or didnt happen

[misty ravine]

A lot better than bosses bm triggering on you

[acoustic dune]

ill dm to ya since i dont wanna get sent to narnia

[hallow oxide]

I’ve been running the tactical axe a lot lately and it’s pretty good ngl

[untold junco]

deal