zealot-class

[grizzled aspen]

Why do you want to blackmail me so badly...

Be a man and ask me directly to stay up.

Also thank FUCK I dont have to play this ogryn slop modifier anymore.

Teammates are so shit.

[sullen forge]

The FUCK DO YOU MEAN

ITS SLOP

[clever swan]

event is fun!!

[grizzled aspen]

Queued up with a level 1k vet with a boltgun that stole every ammo he could see.

[sullen forge]

Literally the best event we've had in ages

[grizzled aspen]

I am venting my anger through calling it slop because these people I'm getting stuck with are awful.

[brave cedar]

i miss u ❤️

[sullen forge]

You not just retreat when a Ogryn Horde spawns?

Lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway said true level 1k vet accused me of popping a burster on him to which I said "scoreboard says I have 0 friendly fire damage."

[grizzled aspen]

Nope, scriers gaze with greatsword, fuck it we ball.

[brave cedar]

lol

[grizzled aspen]

Heres the scoreboard for that match, guess who the vet is.

[brave cedar]

all im hearing is hes minime

[plush estuary]

Me

[rocky nacelle]

stay out of my event queues next time

[plush estuary]

Thats my vet name

[grizzled aspen]

You gotta be fuckin kidding man.

I stg if thats you I queued with then I'm gonna have to beat you with hammers.

[brave cedar]

thats fucking hilarious

😭

[plush estuary]

This is the build

[grizzled aspen]

What's your steam handle @plush estuary

Wait no youre playing vt2 theres no way that was you.

[plush estuary]

yes

[grizzled aspen]

I may be stupid.

Anyway this dude was a huge turd and I hope he explodes.

[brave cedar]

im rolling

[rocky nacelle]

what DLC is worth

[plush estuary]

whatever 4th career you want to try

and winds of magic for Cata difficulty

[open bramble]

ogryn is so shit, but the pickaxe is so absurd

i want one on zealot

[remote lark]

Dorn

[grizzled aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/crackbert3.gif

[open bramble]

prob. darcy

[remote lark]

I'd race that mf for every pack of ammo on the ground

pvp on

[sullen forge]

Had .neo replace a rage quiter by sheer chance and we just both blitz'd the mission lmao

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna green stim you with every one I find when youre playing martyrdom.

[remote lark]

explode

[rocky nacelle]

so just winds of magic and DLC sub classes for people

[sullen forge]

Pm, seeing all 4 careers are pretty fun trying out from what I've seen

[plush estuary]

then the others are just cosmetics and misc.

[grizzled aspen]

Make me noob.

[misty nova]

Warrior Priest is a pretty good choice

[plush estuary]

"brrrrrrrrrrrr, chainsword" -neo in vc

[copper hawk]

Warrior priest of slugmar

[sullen forge]

First one I bought its pretty fucking fun

[sullen forge]

One second I got a clip

[grizzled aspen]

Warrior priest gotta be the most toxic fuckin career in the game.

[sullen forge]

you want to see who he replaced?

[grizzled aspen]

Never have I seen a more annoying group of people.

[copper hawk]

Grail knight

Winds

[sullen forge]

@plush estuary
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jwCgdNvY0Gb4INUht?invite=cr-MSxDVDIsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Im planning to do Spear + Shield Footsoldier once I get adjusted to VT2

it seems extremely fucking fun

[plush estuary]

I dont find fun in footknight

since he doesnt get like any damage buffs

[grizzled aspen]

Merc supremacy.

[plush estuary]

he's just there for stagger

[sullen forge]

Doesn't really heavily bother me

[remote lark]

What's different about vt2 to darktide

[sullen forge]

also Merc is meta of course I'll play it on the fucking side lmao

[plush estuary]

what meta?

[sullen forge]

Juicy Temp HP

[plush estuary]

all careers are meta

[remote lark]

may I present

meta is whatever you think is fun

[copper hawk]

Not necessarily

[misty nova]

Huntsman Kruber

[copper hawk]

Some careers are bad in cata

Lots are

[plush estuary]

no

[remote lark]

Nerdatrice..

[plush estuary]

skill as always

[copper hawk]

Slayer isn't good, Hunter is terrible

[sullen forge]

Seeing I plan to master Krueber fully before delving into a shit to of the other careers

Thats going to be an interesting adventure

[plush estuary]

good idea

[copper hawk]

Hunter as in huntsman

Huntsman is probs the worst career in the game

[plush estuary]

I spend like a good 100 hours on elf when ham dragged me into high difficulty

I learned fast

[copper hawk]

Shade falls of a lot

[plush estuary]

how so?

I love my 2 tapping boss dps

1 shot elites

[sullen forge]

Let me guess these more ranged focus ones are Elite killers or boss nukers

but just

really lack in Horde clearing

[plush estuary]

Correct

[copper hawk]

Kind of

A lot of characters have really good horde clear they carry over from their other careers

Issue is thp generation

Thay determines your role in the team

That*

[sullen forge]

I mean give me time to learn the difference between VT2 and DTs movement and I probably can make some of the ranged focused Careers good

[copper hawk]

Best one is bounty hunter

[low dock]

VT2 is much more punishing about movement, I will say that.

[copper hawk]

Most fun too

Dead ,, not alive ,,

[rocky nacelle]

@plush estuary

[plush estuary]

yup

[rocky nacelle]

this seem about right

[sullen forge]

how long is the sale going for

[rocky nacelle]

ends Jan 29 apparently

[sullen forge]

cause Im currently saving what I currently have

oh perfect

[plush estuary]

I'll be on for a few more hours

[sullen forge]

I can get all that then

[plush estuary]

if you play it tonight

[sullen forge]

I'll probably be playing it here in a few days

[copper hawk]

I suggest warrior priest or grail knight

Most fun careers

[sullen forge]

just bare with me Im going to be fucking ASS

[median steeple]

that gif was ass

[sullen forge]

at VT2

[copper hawk]

Dlc careers

[plush estuary]

fun is subjective

[sullen forge]

@median steeple Give me that

[copper hawk]

U will be ass in vt2 lol

[sullen forge]

That was ironically funny

[median steeple]

just search up dabloons

[copper hawk]

It has very janky combat

[median steeple]

4 dabloons is what got me it

I hated looking at that gif

I had to delete it

[copper hawk]

Like, how dodges are managed in the game

And it has tremendous hitbox issues

Chaff also swing incredibly fast and hit incredibly hard for what they are

[sullen forge]

Client Sided hitboxes

[copper hawk]

Relative to darktide

[sullen forge]

not server sided

I know that

[copper hawk]

All careers function well generally at all levels up til like cata

Then there's some sorting

Otherwise pick whatever and play

My favs were Zealot and GK

Along w IB and Battle Wizard

[sullen forge]

@plush estuary Brutally honest is there a set in stone playstyle you HAVE to play in VT2 or is it kinda just one of those games where its just

[sullen forge]

if you adjust to how it works

[hard nexus]

having half my health removed by a completely silent clan rat

[sullen forge]

it really doesn't matter you can be useful to the team

[hard nexus]

(this is fun)

(apparently)

[copper hawk]

My unsolicited advice from a cat player wdym

Like each character is very pigeon holed in what you do on the team

[plush estuary]

There is not a set in stone playstyle

[hard nexus]

cat player

[copper hawk]

Generally you always want to stick together

[plush estuary]

comparable to darktide

[rocky nacelle]

peak

[median steeple]

I love ribspreader

[sullen forge]

Basically what havoc actively encourages you to do

[plush estuary]

if you can solo, solo

[copper hawk]

Oh uh no each career plays differently legend and below

Depending on weapons

[plush estuary]

specials are more than twice as difficult in VT

[copper hawk]

Cat+ is hav 40 on roids

[plush estuary]

Cata is worse than havoc 40

[hard nexus]

i could never get the hook rat dodge down

[copper hawk]

There it matters tremendously whst you bring and ur role on the team is defined a lot by the weapons you take

[copper hawk]

Yes

I was explainin this 2 meow a bit ago

Cat is nuts

The leap from legend to cat is huge

[plush estuary]

yes

[hard nexus]

5 morbillion damage

[copper hawk]

But it's fun as fuck to pull off

[median steeple]

shoot them !

[plush estuary]

Cata, weekly twins, plus halloween event was fun

[copper hawk]

Do drachenfels on cat and u will feel like a peak gamer

[hard nexus]

i wish i wasn’t washed at vt2

[hard nexus]

grrr

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[copper hawk]

U will learn w hate hitreg gale

[rocky nacelle]

@copper hawk

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368165800315453452/1276365499462062112/glorp-glorpcat.gif?ex=678f0480&is=678db300&hm=e7e6651e884e9d8ba51a7c61cc5391870ecdcd967dbd7a0100f1e0761f5ce156&

[copper hawk]

Wolperine and gnarp..

[hard nexus]

do u wanna toys

[copper hawk]

2 fav thingz whole wide worl..

[hard nexus]

in a moment

[plush estuary]

If you want a fresh VT player's experince with the game, ask @tepid dome

[spare talon]

vermintide makes me feel like im actually ass at tide combat and im just lucking my way through darktide

[reef flower]

No, I was level 8-9

[rocky nacelle]

well you are

[spare talon]

ok but your opinion doesnt matter here

[copper hawk]

Darktide has better combat

[rocky nacelle]

fact*

[hard nexus]

truthood!

[sullen forge]

Jesus they fucking jumped your ass

[plush estuary]

Vermintide has better combat

[hearty nebula]

true

[hard nexus]

falsehood!

i don’t have an appropriate sticker though

[rocky nacelle]

vermintide looks like it has meatier combat

it looks fun

[hearty nebula]

vt2 has better combos

but i wouldnt say necessarily better combat overall

[hard nexus]

yeah i wish combos were more prevalent in DT

[gusty cipher]

Vermintide is def more of a block/push game in my experience. Where in darktide the stronger defensive option is dodge

[hard nexus]

but other than that, dt feels miles better

[rocky nacelle]

heavy

special

heavy

special

heavy

push attack

[spare talon]

saltz shoots the patrol
i walk up to try to keep them in the funnel theyre already in after theyre aggroed, but the push out
immediately gridlocked by a minor rat and a blackrat directly behind me that literally appeared out of thin air

[hard nexus]

sometimes it’s even light heavy light heavy light heavy

[rocky nacelle]

decipher this weapon

[hearty nebula]

heavy sword my beloved

[hard nexus]

or maybe even

[gusty cipher]

Push attack my beloved

[hard nexus]

PA light!

[hard nexus]

hsword mk9

[sullen forge]

im guessing sound is VERY FUCKING CRUCIAL

[hearty nebula]

i already said it!!!?

[sullen forge]

in VT2 as much as it is

[hearty nebula]

noob

[rocky nacelle]

it was actually ds4

[sullen forge]

in DT

[hard nexus]

ah

ok decipher this one

PA light

PA light

PA light

PA light

[spare talon]

it is
too bad the audio cues are terrible

[sullen forge]

Crusher..

[hard nexus]

yeah

[rocky nacelle]

ive seen PA light be applied to 3 different weapons

[hard nexus]

or mk3 evis with desperation

[rocky nacelle]

eviscerators and crusher

[sullen forge]

Okay okay okay hear me out on this one

[spare talon]

rashad combo for ragers

[sullen forge]

actually shit I gotta redo it

[hard nexus]

doesn’t work with mk15 evis

[rocky nacelle]

or a knife if you somehow are the worst knife player in existence

[sullen forge]

and i want you to take your guess on what fuck ass melee combo I did

[hard nexus]

ok what about

heavy light light light push attack light light

heavy light light light push attack light light

[tepid dome]

VT2 is good. Different than DT. Way less dodging, more block and stagger dependent. Levels are more satisfying IMO.

[hard nexus]

heavy light light light push attack light light

wait no

it’s 2 lights

in the first part

not 3

[rocky nacelle]

push into L1 works its just ass if you wanna do stupid "fast" shit just l1 qq l1

[hard nexus]

fair

[grizzled aspen]

PA light applies to mk2 rb as well.

[spare talon]

i would agree with you if i could even tell the timings at which you need to block attacks, and dodge the unblockable attacks

[median steeple]

im in the middle of a baro session rn

[grizzled aspen]

Much faster than PA heavy heavy.

[sullen forge]

PA Heavy Light Light (Repeat)

what is this melee weapon

[grizzled aspen]

Rashad.

[cursive tundra]

How many sv overheads?
Yes

[spare talon]

but every time ive tried to learn, i just get hit anyway

[grizzled aspen]

:3

[sullen forge]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!

[clever swan]

dumps barotrauma folder

[tepid dome]

Submarine mentioned!

[gusty cipher]

So is the zealot chat the shitpost one?

[clever swan]

YES

HELP

[sterile basalt]

Achlys combat axe

[clever swan]

it's also the place where all the true masters go

[hard nexus]

that’s really all i have, i take it from the barotrauma memes channel because they have good stuff sometimes

[median steeple]

Im currently a cyborg rn

[tepid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rodent-vermintide-vermintide2-skaven-gif-20147931

[sullen forge]

sadly no

[sterile basalt]

Same combo tho

[sullen forge]

I probably would've done that next seeing no one uses it lmao

[rocky nacelle]

is that game really that good/fun

[spare talon]

zealot chat is the anything chat but with more zealot than any of the other things

[median steeple]

yeah with friends but you need a decent amount of people for a fun game

[hard nexus]

it is but in my experience it’s one of those like

[clever swan]

zealot chat is simultaneously like a greek pantheon of the greatest philosophers and the most deranged set of homeless outcasts.

perhaps this is just how it is to be so genius.

[hard nexus]

seasonal games

where u cycle in and out with a friend group

[rocky nacelle]

ok so minecraft terraria

moment

[hard nexus]

yeah

i’ve been wanting to play it but my friend group that i would play it with haven’t been willing

[misty nova]

Get out pushed
Lmao

[gusty cipher]

Oh. I always thought they were like, super strict chat channels. I don’t come here often.

[hard nexus]

basically any question u can ask here and you’ll get an answer or a referral

[gusty cipher]

Everyone’s got a neat colored name and I’m just g r a y

[hard nexus]

you’ll get red (and image perms) by talking a bit more

[gusty cipher]

O

[hard nexus]

shouldn’t be too long

[spare talon]

most of the other class channels tend to be but you can literally ask a question about any class here and youll likely get an answer from someone who knows their shit about it

no questions asked

[hard nexus]

u wanna be me sooo bad..

repeating me

[gusty cipher]

Alright so real question for zealots. Do y’all actually like the ogryns? Or the psykers? Or the vets?

[sterile basalt]

What is it then

[sterile basalt]

They don’t

[spare talon]

no "erm this is zealot chat go to the vet chat"
just an answer

[sterile basalt]

Unless they’re the ones playing them

[misty nova]

[sterile basalt]

Then they might

[hard nexus]

ogryns are the most toxic in my experience, psykers are fine unless they’re running one of the stupid game turn off builds, vets are whatever

[spare talon]

like do we like playing those classes
the people who play them
or do zealots, the characters, like those characters

[sullen forge]

Borovian Pick

[rocky nacelle]

I only like what I play and thats zealot and soyker

[sullen forge]

it has like stupid ass combos you can do on it

[misty nova]

Zealots have a soft spot for Ogryns
Now Psykers, maybe agitator

[rocky nacelle]

and I only like them when I play it

[misty nova]

And Fem Fanatic

[sterile basalt]

No? It’s not light light at the end

[sullen forge]

It has more than 1 combo

[sterile basalt]

You usually just PA into [heavy + light] loop

[gusty cipher]

When you’re not any of those classes. Like when you’re zealot. Your opinion of the other rejects. AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT SOME OGRYN PLAYERS WERE TOXIC AF I thought it was just me

[sterile basalt]

Not much point using light atks on it

[clever swan]

anyone know why the game can sometimes spawn two full bosses? i got two full plague ogryns today during a high intensity ogryn modifier. is that just what this modifier does or...

[misty nova]

Yeah

[plush estuary]

map with close boss triggers

[hard nexus]

i’ve only had a couple zealots shit talk in game, they usually just rage quit, but i’ve seen the most ogryns actively insult the team and throw games

[misty nova]

You probably went through the boss triggers

[clever swan]

can they really be that close to each other?

[plush estuary]

yes

[gusty cipher]

Like I wanna like playing ogryn more often but some people make me wanna just not touch it

[clever swan]

is that on purpose or an oversight? it seems very rare that it happens

[hard nexus]

also i hate any gunlugger ogryn

[plush estuary]

on purpose

[gusty cipher]

My poor slab Pork

[clever swan]

though i will say that one of my teammates was in a place i have no idea how they were there, it's possible he hit a far ahead trigger too

[tepid dome]

such slander

[clever swan]

isnt it so rare though? wouldnt it be more common if it was on purpose?

[hard nexus]

they shit out 800k damage because they just hold m1, and die to like 2 bruisers when they have shield

[gusty cipher]

Why gunlugger hate? Like I can see bull rush ogryn as the foot knight equivalent. Is this the same reason as to why people hate engie after his buffs?

[clever swan]

ive only seen it like 5 times ever probably

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/graboid-49685-ammo-gun-tremors-gif-13752182

[hard nexus]

it’s like psyker smite with ammo

[spare talon]

i honestly do not care what other people are/run as long as its not something that just saps the fun out of the game
notable examples are plasma spam vets, smite spam psykers, gunlugger boss nukers
just people that yoink the fun parts out of the game because of what they run

[tepid dome]

I shit out 800k damage by spamming m1

[spare talon]

but thats kind of an elitist take from me

[hard nexus]

yeah, ok elitist.

[vestal portal]

Don't discriminate Ogryns.

[sterile basalt]

Gunlugger ogryn is basically Exe Boltgun veteran 0.5

[sullen forge]

Keep yourself safe...

[hard nexus]

yeah basically the same opinion here

[sullen forge]

NOW

[hard nexus]

i’m just dramatic

[spare talon]

there was a certain point where i just left a civi lobby if i saw someone with smite

[gusty cipher]

So what makes a smite spam psyker a spam psyker. Like what’s too much? Smiting an ogryn patrol in the current event is probably fine, but horde smiting is frowned upon?

[vestal portal]

Holding LMB with a red screen is sex.

[spare talon]

smite is best used as a tool for proper control in an ideal situation

[misty nova]

Speaking of Glugger
The keystones still firing at 0 ammo for the new heavy stubber and the Ripper

[vestal portal]

Blood and fire everywhere.

[sterile basalt]

Unnecessarily smiting is generally frowned upon

[spare talon]

people that spam it try to use it as a damage tool

[gusty cipher]

Like with the current event, or dog hordes? Those are fine, yeah?

[spare talon]

keeping hordes spread out, pausing enemies that arent a threat

[sterile basalt]

Which is basically all situations that doesn’t immediately result in a team wipe

[remote lark]

does dorn still run the mod that auto dcs him if a smyker joins

lol

[spare talon]

idk lmao

[hard nexus]

smite m2 should be used like flamer, where you only smite like 5 times a game (moments that are make or break)

there’s good use with smite m1, as shown in @spare dome video, and a unique way to use smite m2

[spare talon]

dog waves are fine imo

its stuff like smiting a horde thats already in a choke point

or smiting those 3 shooters until they die

[gusty cipher]

Cause at that point you’re just farming damage and contributing nothing

[spare talon]

like cool that took you 10 seconds lmao

[misty nova]

It depends on build and how often you smite
Smiting 3 walkers is bad

[gusty cipher]

I’m writing this down

[remote lark]

"Damage"

:^)

[vestal portal]

I played with 3 smykers doing that the other day in the brute modifier... it was so fucking painful...

[remote lark]

No, people don't like smite players because it removes melee enemies from the game

[gusty cipher]

o

[remote lark]

Boring!

[naive stirrup]

this

[spare talon]

at the end of the day it ends up being just darktide etiquette
like another example being a bolter vet shooting everything that moves and eating every ammo pickup

[hard nexus]

it turns it into psykanium simulator

[spare talon]

very infuriating

[naive stirrup]

im running precog riposte on a greatsword let me deal damage

[vestal portal]

I was a psyker with EK and did the lifting.

[gusty cipher]

BUT IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE NUMBERS AT THAT POINT

[hard nexus]

healthbars mod my beloved

[rocky nacelle]

mine does

[remote lark]

should I level soyker or oggy next

I'm torn

[sterile basalt]

Slurping ammo as Boltgun veteran is situation dependent

[gusty cipher]

console plebeians like me waited two years for the game to come to PlayStation and I can’t even have funny numbers in my missions

[vestal portal]

Go Ogryn first so you don't be disappointed later.

[misty nova]

"Ogryn too strong " - Crusher

[orchid cipher]

dont worry and just play lol

ur overthinking shit

[remote lark]

barreling veterans so they can't slurp my ammo is situation dependent

[vestal portal]

If you play ogryn last, you will hate yourself.

[sullen forge]

Okay hear me out just

[gusty cipher]

Oh I’m just shitposting at this point

[sullen forge]

position yourself

correctly

when an ogryn spawn happens

🤯

[clever swan]

console plebians lack so much i really feel for yall

[plush estuary]

@spare talon still playing VT?

[misty nova]

I found a player today that didn't know you can slap as Ogryn

[sterile basalt]

Why

[remote lark]

My ammo.

Mine.

[spare talon]

MELEE PSYKER
MELEE PSYKER

[sterile basalt]

Loot better

[remote lark]

<1m damage

loser

[clever swan]

microsoft should just pivot the xbox to being a prebuilt and compact-ish optimized-for-gaming windows PC that is mass produced to a cheap price

[remote lark]

no

[sullen forge]

Me thinks psyker needs more buffs

[spare talon]

normal board civi

[sullen forge]

very weak class

very very weak

[gusty cipher]

I can’t even have a scoreboard in my game

[naive stirrup]

give me your build btw i want to use it

[remote lark]

💀

[zealous mesa]

just had an interesting experience where i did the same maelstrom as a psyker with a varied team then as ogryn with 3 vets
the psyker game was slow and tactical feeling and then the vet ogryn game was like a constant brawl to the finish line

also all had voc

[plush estuary]

para and gale want to play

[zealous mesa]

its kinda boring to only use voc

every vet has it

[clever swan]

it's really strong

[misty nova]

🗣️

[sullen forge]

Probably wont be tonight lad

[zealous mesa]

i couldnt do any crowd control as ogryn because everyone was on the floor

[sullen forge]

but absolutely eventually

[plush estuary]

another day

[misty nova]

🟨

[gusty cipher]

Which is why I’ve just gone to using infiltrate 75% of the time

[sullen forge]

I only have 3 hours in VT2 btw LMAO

[spare talon]

i could probably boot up VT

but id still suck poopoo

[plush estuary]

so?

learn and have fun

[naive stirrup]

i don't want to pub queue cata

[spare talon]

game not fun when suck

[plush estuary]

better with a team

[vestal portal]

Exe Stance is obsolete, Infiltration is too situational, VoC is flat out one of the best in the game... What should I pick?

[plush estuary]

to mess around with

[gusty cipher]

Just rip the bandaid off and do it. Try pub queue cata wastes

[zealous mesa]

i will always believe in exy stance

[naive stirrup]

at least wastes i can solo carry without TOO much issue

[sterile basalt]

What is this mindset

[sullen forge]

I tend to take these games at my own pace so I might do baby mode difficulties at first for a few hours before throwing myself into Legendary

[naive stirrup]

even under leveled on legend

[spare dome]

where am i pinged

i am lost

[tepid dome]

Took me like 20hrs to learn the game at a level where I could play cata.

It's not too terribly complex

[plush estuary]

we did a bit of speedrunning learning

[copper hawk]

[rocky nacelle]

need to get the dlc and install it with it also

[sullen forge]

Yeah its more so I gotta learn how the game functions vs DT

once I get a grasp on that

should be simple

[plush estuary]

another day

[copper hawk]

Famous last wordz..

[vestal portal]

The mindset of solely want to win. I run all abilities for the fun of it.

[naive stirrup]

biggest difference at least for me was the parry mechanic

im still ass with it

[lament blaze]

maybe one day fatshark will give vets even a hint of a reason to take anything other than shout

[plush estuary]

Plus VT has a much better difficulty lock than darktide

[zealous mesa]

i was in a lfg post for this game and decided to try a knife and my teammates were saying of course you dont like it you built it all wrong
i don't care that the knife was built wrong, the basic of knife is stab maulers in the head and light spam at hordes I just like weapons that hit many people

[sterile basalt]

Practice with exe stance (outside of havoc), it’s nowhere near “obsolete”

[misty portal]

i saw a mr e stream where he had wireframes enabled, does anyone know what mod would give that option? i can't find anything

[vestal portal]

Practice?

[zealous mesa]

you can run the stupidest stuff and itll be fine

[naive stirrup]

exe can be fun especially with the fact you can take a bayonet and use exe with the bayonet, so that's fun
infiltrate i feel like is more melee vet focused

[sullen forge]

Infil is overpowered

you drop agro at the click of a button

• full toughness

[zealous mesa]

i like infiltration for activating it to sprint at a bunch of shooters and start hacking away

[naive stirrup]

iirc it's a private mod if it's not on nexus

[lament blaze]

No argument here. But shout is so overloaded I feel like the only reason you'd pick anything else is because you actively do not want to take shout.

[naive stirrup]

me when i play zealot and i don't want to run book or stealth

[misty portal]

ah heard that, ty

[gusty cipher]

I’ve never not had fun with infiltrate or exe stance. Infiltrate cause it brings me back to the Ranger Veteran glory days, and exe stance with proper team support can just rule ranged heavy encounters

[naive stirrup]

try melee exe

it's actually so funny to see

[sterile basalt]

Play with it

[zealous mesa]

i hate emperor palpatine psykers

[sullen forge]

Shooter node

[naive stirrup]

runs up with a helbore and stabs a bitch

[sullen forge]

kill with melee

[zealous mesa]

enemy heads start swinging around

[sullen forge]

constantly have exe stance up

[zealous mesa]

makes it hard to hit them with lasguns

[sullen forge]

lmao

[gusty cipher]

Bet gimme that immersive krieger gameplay

[lament blaze]

Dash is good though. Unironically good. Sure book is easier for havoc but I think you can make a legitimate argument for not taking dash.

Not that dash is better but when my boy tells me. "Yeah im taking dash because you already have book and i can just melt bosses with this" i go "yeah dude run it up"

When someone takes exe stance in a level 40 havoc and goes "dude i can kill so many crushers" i roll my eyes and go.. "alright if you're sure"

[zealous mesa]

do people not like fury of the faithful anymore

i always use it

[naive stirrup]

fury in my eyes is the only correct zealot ability

[sterile basalt]

Half the problem is ammo & pus hardened skin

[zealous mesa]

like seriously devils claw fury pary is just

why i come play the game

crusher one shot

[naive stirrup]

one shotting a crusher as he tries to flatten you

[zealous mesa]

with dclaw parry

[misty nova]

Fury is the only good one

[lament blaze]

I mean that's painfully wrong and I think even most "fury > book" people i've argued with here would agree with me on that

[misty nova]

Book has been meh till havoc released

[zealous mesa]

ive actually been experimenting with psyker stuff, i tried to take an antaxe combat axe with warp splitting to see how many people i can cut through with it

yes rashad does it better i know

but i like blue

[zealous mesa]

this is goober

its just voc 2

[misty nova]

Shroudfield is boss meme or run ahead and die

[sterile basalt]

BM is not related to cleave

So not much difference there

[zealous mesa]

the devils claw was having some funny interactions where i was trying to get my stamina super high but i forgot to take off by crack of bone

so i would parry someone, gain 2 peril and immediately lose it

[grizzled aspen]

Psyker so I can fucking stop playing it.

[hard nexus]

fury is the only fun zealot ability*

[spare talon]

at max warp splitting you are hitting maybe 1-2 more enemies

[zealous mesa]

i had to sit there in a horde and wait for enemies to hit me a bunch to rack up the peril and then it would all go away in like 3 swings

[spare talon]

antax lights have 1.8 cleave

a poxwalker is 1.5, a bruiser is 2

[spare dome]

you wanna do that with deci + ht

[spare talon]

max warp splitting is 1.8*2

[zealous mesa]

what about the push attack

[hearty nebula]

its over...

[zealous mesa]

it is noticeably cutting through multiple enemies

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[spare talon]

push attack is 9.5, but the damage falls of quite harshly

[zealous mesa]

i imagined so

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1328835856701849630/1733634972526851.gif

[zealous mesa]

never seemed to get more than one kill with it

and it bounces off carapace

[hard nexus]

better damage distribution than evis

:(

[spare dome]

with ht + deci your math becomes 1.8 x 1.75 x 2

[zealous mesa]

i've been trying eviscerator as well

ive been trying lots of new stuff lately

[hard nexus]

i wish deathblow wasn’t so required on heavysword

[spare dome]

or 9.5 x 1.75 x 2 for the PA so

i wish brumo and its inbred cousins could fuck off already as blessings

[hard nexus]

chained deathblow perfect strike seems like it’d be fun for high havocs

but not having brutal momentum hurts

and that was just testing in the psykanium against the trials

let alone in high havoc

[zealous mesa]

my eviscerator currently has no wrath but perfect strike and shred

no idea if its working but people die

except crushers

[hard nexus]

also chained deathblow only giving you 10% crit chance

[zealous mesa]

they take longer

[spare dome]

people ... or heretics?

[hard nexus]

instead of 20 that it says

frown

[sterile basalt]

Chained deathblow is bugged

Unfortunately

[hard nexus]

PS shred on a crit build is what i believe to be the best way to run mk3 evis

mk15 is

[sterile basalt]

Bladed momentum could cook on it tho

[spare talon]

but the issue is that bm still literally exists
which gives you both more effective cleave and meaningful damage dist

[hard nexus]

i just said that!!!

[sterile basalt]

But it needs 2 blessings already

[spare dome]

yea but BM can fuck off

[hard nexus]

yeah that’s the main issue

[hearty nebula]

how hungry

[sterile basalt]

Why x2
Hotshot on helbore?

[zealous mesa]

by people i mean both me and my teammates because when im slamming the eviscerator into a group of shotgunners and maulers my teammates completely fail to kill the bombers trappers and flamers

[spare dome]

warpsplitter

[zealous mesa]

and then i wish i was playing vet with a lasgun and exy stance

[spare dome]

was the context of all that

[remote lark]

no

[sterile basalt]

Nah it’s genuinely not worth it

[hard nexus]

that’s why u have throwing knives

[zealous mesa]

no i take stuns because i despise bulwark packs

[sterile basalt]

Decimator sucks unfortunately

[spare dome]

i mean if youre running BM period no cleave boosts make any sense

[hard nexus]

someone in psyker chat posted some video “bad fgs gameplay” a while ago and

yeah fitting title

[spare dome]

so obviously, throw that out if warp splitter is what you want to engage with

[hard nexus]

on caxe?

[sterile basalt]

It sucks in general

It’s only sometimes taken for shovel because u have literally like no other options

[spare dome]

i take it plenty

[hard nexus]

@spare talon kill this guy

[hard nexus]

fair

[zealous mesa]

dude i keep spectating people because i die first because im bad and somehow the zealots made it this far just slinging side to side heavies at mauler heads unpowered and it makes me frustrated

[sterile basalt]

Should have read further

[zealous mesa]

or the psyker never uses his lights and gets overwhelmed in hordes

etc

really frustrating to watch

[hard nexus]

id argue it’s good, just completely outshined by other blessings on its weapons

[vague depot]

Don’t watch them

And focus on yourself

[hard nexus]

lmfao

yeah

pubs moment

[zealous mesa]

but i cannot because im dead

[vague depot]

If you live you won’t need to spectate

Focus on living

When it gets hard to stay alive you simply get better to keep staying alive it’s just how it works

[zealous mesa]

its the worst feeling when you die after something like a trapper in the middle of a horde and then you spectate your teammate and they just turned and ran from the fight or something

[sterile basalt]

It’s the copium version of headtaker

[hard nexus]

yeah that’s what i mean

[zealous mesa]

no wonder i died the psyker is off using his electrostaff secondary in the horde

etc

[vague depot]

When I’m stuck in a horde and I hear a trapper I either use fotf to force some room to dodge or I start hopping and throwing knives at them

[sterile basalt]

And for some weapons it’s not even as good as AoN

[naive stirrup]

book is a crutch

stealth more so

[sullen forge]

They gave shovel Headtaker it’s so fucking over

[hard nexus]

huh

[naive stirrup]

YES

[sullen forge]

I’m saying theoretically

Not they did

[naive stirrup]

i want that

[spare dome]

id still stick to deci

[naive stirrup]

i would run shovel vet

shovel just feels weak to me rn and idk

[zealous mesa]

i run goofy blessings to make me feel better

[sullen forge]

Deci is just gambling

[spare dome]

if youre missing deci stacks on a weap with perfect horizontal sweeps id say get your head checked tbh

[zealous mesa]

hammerblow bad

but

crusher on floor

good

[sterile basalt]

It needs more than that

[hard nexus]

needs better cleave imo

[zealous mesa]

lets be real if i swung a shovel at a group of people it would stop on the first guys head

[hard nexus]

the biggest downside of power creep is that blessings like impact blessings just become useless

[zealous mesa]

and likely get stuck if i use the sharp edge

the game is already generous

however im weak

[vague depot]

Let’s be real is a crazy thing to say in the Warhammer fantasy

[spare dome]

my shoulders would probably dislocate first because i haven't raised them to do more than reach a jar of tomato sauce in a decade

[hard nexus]

like taking a stagger blessing on shovel for ragers

[zealous mesa]

yeah sorry if i was real in warhammer if i swung a shovel at a group of enemies id probably only vaporise the first guy

[vague depot]

Sounds about right

Shouldn’t have skipped arm day

[sterile basalt]

If the impact blessing had skullcrusher baked in it’ll be so good

[zealous mesa]

and then i would die a dramatic death as the aliens crawl all over me and the camera pans back to the hero

[vague depot]

Should have used push attack smh

[hard nexus]

we need warhammer media that depicts me swinging an evis through a horde

shame we haven’t gotten anything really like that

[sullen forge]

Never happening seeing they’d want impact and damage separate seeing you can separate raw damage from stagger for different playstyles

[zealous mesa]

honestly a theatre mode for this game would be kinda funny

[sullen forge]

But you know what we do to people who even think of not damage maxing

[zealous mesa]

id like to free spectate someone's game and watch them unnaturally dart around

[hard nexus]

id fucking LOVEEE some darktide animations

it’d be so cool

[sullen forge]

We bully the shit out of them till they uninstall

[zealous mesa]

yeah

good think i dont expose my builds

devils claw mk1 hammerblow savage sweep

[misty nova]

No Skrusher

[zealous mesa]

10% block efficiency

[spare dome]

i mean i run Mind in Motion on Psyker so

[zealous mesa]

+10% ddamage against groaners and poxwalkers

oh yeah

2 extra damage per swing

but it does stunlock maulers

this is an old form of it now i use an advanced version of it where i took off hammerblow and added like rampage or something and changed groaner to unarmored

does shovel not normally throw 5 enemies to the ground with every swing

i always brought hammerblow on it and it was very satisfying and safe

bum ass ragers with their coghwheel axes

meet flat shovel face

by the way do not use take a swing with flip shovels

it is very clearly meant for the original shovel

[lament blaze]

a very effective one

[naive stirrup]

but a crutch no less

[spare dome]

youre not throwing everything to the ground but the og shovel does stagger most of what it hits

[lament blaze]

a crutch that is extremely effective ceases to be an incorrect option

[naive stirrup]

a crutch makes you worse at the game

that's just how it works

[spare talon]

it stacks quickly enough for shovel cuz of its attack speed that it has real value compared to other weapons
and yeah its also cuz we dont have buttfuck busted blessings like headtaker

[spare dome]

book uptime isnt high enough to qualify as a crutch tbh

[lament blaze]

You can make the argument that using good weapons/good builds/good anything makes you worse at the game. I think if havoc 40 truly pushed the game to its absolute limits then book would be the only option.

[naive stirrup]

never said using good anything makes you worse

that is not what i said, even a little bit

[lament blaze]

No but you could

[golden rain]

hehe, shovel go thwonk

[hard nexus]

waiter waiter more slippery slope please

[naive stirrup]

book is a get out of jail free card
that is what i consider a crutch

[spare dome]

thats almost every active ability in the game

[lament blaze]

I didn't slippery slope anything. I'm saying the argument "it makes you worse at the game" easily applies to simply good builds/good gear

[hard nexus]

ds4 is a crutch

[lament blaze]

If you're calling it slipperly slope then you have absolutely zero idea what that term means

[hard nexus]

i do in fact know what it means!

[lament blaze]

Then you're pretending not to

[hard nexus]

vodka said that book is a crutch

you said that arguing it’s a crutch means that you could argue everything else is a crutch

[spare talon]

@plush estuary game updated
ready to get my nuts crushed

[vague depot]

@brave cedar got a bit too late for vc so imma just go and level up my vet

Thanks for the games

[lament blaze]

Pinpoint exactly where I said "means" here

Quote exact wording

[brave cedar]

ogey :3 it was fun! u seem nice

[hard nexus]

sorry, “make the argument”

[rocky nacelle]

real

[hard nexus]

literally the same meaning

lmfao

[lament blaze]

No. I said you could make the argument

[brave cedar]

me but with one bottomless tray of chips and my ipad for watching tv

OH and some blunts beforehand

done that so many fucing times

[lament blaze]

My point is that saying something "makes you worse at the game" is an invalid argument for whether something is a "correct" option

[brave cedar]

its like 7 dollars for the bottoless chips here

[hard nexus]

oh stupid pedantic arguments on discord

where would i be without you

[vague depot]

What is bottomless chips

[brave cedar]

at chilis?

[hard nexus]

chips that don’t end

[vague depot]

Impossible

How

[lament blaze]

yeah. So piss the fuck off if you're not interested

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

someone’s upset…

gonna use another slippery slope on me ?

[brave cedar]

basically a bowl of their restaurant tortilla chips, and a bowl of their salsa (which is great)

and they refill you forever

[vague depot]

Holy shit

[brave cedar]

drink too

[vague depot]

Does it come with cheese too or just salsa

[brave cedar]

no just salsa

[vague depot]

Wallahi

[brave cedar]

but its insane anyway like dude

[lament blaze]

No I'll just add you to the list of "brain damaged 19 year olds"

[spare dome]

and some blunts apparently

[vague depot]

At least it’s bottomless chips

[brave cedar]

i stuffed my face so many times

used to study near a chilis

going with friends and picking a corner booth with some walls and putting up the ipad and eating chips and hanging out

being fatasses 😂

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-comp-cringe-shrek-shrek-cringe-compilation-snap-gif-11981937

how bro sounds…

[brave cedar]

LMAO INSANE GIF

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-brain-loading-gif-20731521

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

[lament blaze]

If your response to "oh someone made a point I don't have an answer to" is "pedantic" then yes you're not worth my time. period

[rocky nacelle]

. period .

[clever swan]

is iron will a crutch

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-smith-what-do-you-gif-18197554

[clever swan]

everything is a crutch if it's good enough, if you think about it

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

this is why i called you pedantic

[hard nexus]

yo mama is a crutch

pwned…

[clever swan]

(posts a gif depicting violence against you)

in minecraft

[hard nexus]

(responds with the cycle continues sticker)

why are we RPing texting

[rocky nacelle]

cause you guys are restarted

[hard nexus]

this is true

[clever swan]

[hard nexus]

my eyeballs feel weird

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1116215343237562419.webp?size=56&animated=true

[sullen forge]

Regarded thank you very much

[grizzled aspen]

Why not?

:(

No good missions on auric board, I take a nap now.

[misty nova]

I really should stock up on snacks for late night shenanigans

[remote lark]

i dont care enough to read the entir3e argument about logical fallacies but i do want to point out that i thin kthis is wrong
there are certain things that let u simply cheat death in ways that meta builds can't

🚬

knife/ds secretly have like 20 dodges before you can't dodge anything anymore

ppl who play knife/ds exclusively and then try to play anything else always floormat

thats why people talk about crutches

like if you really want to genuinely get better at the game from the level of someone who 'can complete aurics/maels and kind maybe do mid-high havoc'

stop playing with broken SS tier stuff

it's not broken cause it's meta it's broken cause it removes fundamental mechanics from the game

like having to care about your dodges

or having to not treat crushers like chaff you can oneshot

[opal star]

so how are yall doing this fine night

[remote lark]

my coworker got me sick for the 3rd week in a row

im going to kill them with a rock

:3

[opal star]

ooh dunking on meta weapons

[misty nova]

I should be up at 7 am
It's 2 am
So it's a fine night

[hard nexus]

it’s ok all u need to know is that i’m right because im cool

[hearty nebula]

this is @copper hawk

[rocky nacelle]

smell like shit and suck

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-meme-squidward-tonight-12gauge-double-barrel-gif-25318567

me on gunker

[frosty herald]

Wall of text

[hearty nebula]

so true breastie

[rocky nacelle]

u never played with me b4

noob...

unless im that renowned inside atoma

[vague depot]

i recall a mod that automated the process of buying a weapon, upgrading it and then sacrificing it

cant remember the name though but i need it bad

[hard nexus]

if u find it can u send it 2 me

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/liru-anime-magipoka-renkin-pet-cute-hello-breastie-so-true-breastie-breastie-gif-25605751

[vague depot]

damn lmao

oh i know that game

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/gogeta-angry-stare-scary-serious-gif-9595046672430067305

[copper hawk]

growls

like

a

sigma.

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-growl-snarl-girlwolf-shewolf-gif-9942770988235712676

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/felix-felix-argyle-rezero-speech-bubble-gif-25397122

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

the secret side of me..

i never let u zee..

[rocky nacelle]

dis akneemal i have becom

[rocky nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTsb8WS7XEI

[spare talon]

vermintide so cool
i live 1 enemy preventing me from backing up in any capacity

[grizzled aspen]

I aint reading all that.

[spare talon]

i am having lots of fun dying all of the time

and never engaging with the game

[rocky nacelle]

if someone tells you to kys and you suck will it make you get better

[plush estuary]

Convecatuon is of decay is difficult at the end

A circle when enemies all jump up

[grizzled aspen]

Convocation also has a bug that makes it last forever iirc.

[plush estuary]

Fixed if I remember correctly

[cursive tundra]

Axe in vermintide? In this economy?

[plush estuary]

1st thing I see in the clip if you over committing to he chaos warrior

While storm vermin are already jumping up

[spare talon]

it doesnt help that enemy hitboxes are massive, so you can get gridlocked easily
backstab sound effects blend into the natural game sound easily, and most of the time play so late that you get hit 5ms after it starts
and you cant even combat it because you dont have 360 block or push

[spare talon]

did you miss the part where im not max level

[cursive tundra]

If you got the dlc use axe & falchion
Legit the best weapon for zealot

[spare talon]

i have the dlc

dont have one

[frosty herald]

Cole you gooner please use something else besides taxe

[cursive tundra]

Sorry cant see it on phone

[frosty herald]

Use greathammer

[spare talon]

that moveset is donkey shit

[plush estuary]

Block is 360 but weapons have effective block range in front of them which reduces stamina drained from blocking

[cursive tundra]

You need to craft the dlc weapon
They never dropped naturally

[spare talon]

i literally cannot find a horde combo in it that doesnt involve a single target heavy

[spare talon]

then i wont be getting it for a while

because i dont have the level or mats to do so

[plush estuary]

They drop normally now

[cursive tundra]

huh
TIL

[plush estuary]

Dlc weapons in chests

[delicate shadow]

I'm ngl dude that is a massive skissue you're experiencing

[plush estuary]

New update

[spare talon]

still doesnt help that the backstab sfx are beyond useless

[spare talon]

oh i know

but its also like
just not fun at all

[cursive tundra]

Granted its been ages since i played vt
The last time i played properly they released gk

[delicate shadow]

also the combo for the zealot 2h hammer is H1-H2-L3 repeat

[plush estuary]

We've awoken the VT gamers

[frosty herald]

Skill issue

[spare talon]

ik i found that out
but the angle on the h1 is at such a steep vertical diagonal that it doesnt seem very good for an actual horde clear combo

[delicate shadow]

it goes aight

[spare talon]

especially due to how long you have to hold it for

[frosty herald]

Obsessed with taxe so much hes even maining it in verminshite

[spare talon]

literally the first time ive used the axe

ive used the 1h hammer much more

cuz thats just the highest rating weapon ive had

[delicate shadow]

it's genuinely really funny watching DT players go to VT2 and get rekt

[plush estuary]

VT is so much harder

If you were a god at VT darktide is piss easy

[spare talon]

theres plenty of advice out there for the other way around tho
but nothing for dt to vt

[plush estuary]

Look at jsat, combine, ham

[cursive tundra]

Rapier and pickaxe have thrust at home

[plush estuary]

Explaining and showing in VC will help a lot in improving in VT, when everyone gets the game and we level

I can show you the things I know

Text is annoying

[hearty nebula]

its one of my favorite activities

[plush estuary]

I learned fast from ham because I was playing Cata deeds with him underleveled

[hearty nebula]

watching new players from darktide

OR EVEN BETTER

sm2

get into vermintide

and getting their shit absolutely rocked

[delicate shadow]

it is however, very VERY funny watching VT players enter DT and then struggle

[plush estuary]

It is

I know because I did

[delicate shadow]

the amount of "saltzpyre" zealots that get dunked in auric is hilarious

[naive stirrup]

dt players enter vt and get shredded
vt players enter dt and get shredded

[plush estuary]

I saw a few people

It's like they are different games

They are more different then people expect

VT is slower and methodical and darktide is hectic speed

[naive stirrup]

both are very fun though, despite the bugs

[delicate shadow]

they're different but also I didn't find the transition to DT at all jarring, it's easier if anything imo but then again I'm comparing to VT2 modded which is just kinda masochistic

[plush estuary]

Fair

The chaos you get in modded VT is on par with everything DT can throw at you

Plus some

[delicate shadow]

cata VT2 is defo easier than auric dam imo in the sense that VT2 cata is like...base damnation

[naive stirrup]

well that makes me feel better about my chances in cata

[delicate shadow]

cata is very easy

[naive stirrup]

i just need to avoid playing bardin and sienna, both i just die randomly with

[delicate shadow]

like full disclosure though, I'm like 6k hours on VT2, mostly play modded and played at 250-350 ping for years

so ymmv

[spare talon]

basically literally everything ive attempted has resulted in the conclusion of "kill them before they attack once otherwise you just lose"
because when i attempt to reactively block attacks, i get hit anyway the moment i stop being defensive and try to fight back
when i attempt to have general offense as my defense, "they cant hit me if theyre staggered", i just get hit anyway because they dont get staggered or pushed
in addition to the fact that i just overall think the backstab audio cue doesnt do a good job of being exactly that

[naive stirrup]

fair enough

[delicate shadow]

do not rely on backstab audio

[naive stirrup]

there's a few sanctioned mods that i've been using that help with that

[naive stirrup]

yeah i've noticed it just doesn't work most of the time

[spare talon]

i also remember fighting 2 shield rats explicitly after looking up advice on how to actually deal with them (2 pushes to break them) for like a minute straight because no matter how many times i pushed, hit, whatever, they never dropped their shield

[delicate shadow]

and if you're laggy at all it'll be too late

[frosty herald]

Sm2 is so easy

[hearty nebula]

that's what my friend said

[frosty herald]

Its a very chess like game

[naive stirrup]

me who's on 200 ping regardless of who im connected to because charter spectrum sucks

[hearty nebula]

more like checkers

not chess

[plush estuary]

Hero Power changes stagger strength

Btw

[frosty herald]

Your in a horde you parry and stuff

[naive stirrup]

what

[plush estuary]

You read max level guide

[hearty nebula]

but yeah like

[naive stirrup]

[plush estuary]

Hero Power changes, cleave stagger and damage

[hearty nebula]

SM2? once you figure out parrying consistently

gg ez

[naive stirrup]

that explains...a bit

[hearty nebula]

also yeah

Hero Power is insanely important in VT2

[spare talon]

it wasnt a guide moreso multiple seperate forums asking that exact question and that being the answer on all of them

even beyond that, 5 pushes in a row at 500ish hero power should probably break their shield

[hearty nebula]

just look up anything from Royale w/ Cheese

[spare talon]

but it didnt

[hearty nebula]

guides aren't the most up to date but for the most part

they're all incredibly solid resources

[naive stirrup]

shields in vt just feel like a gigantic middle finger

[hearty nebula]

cuz they are

[plush estuary]

I'm going back to reading, when gale and para hop on I can explain and show a lot of things I know

[hearty nebula]

blocking is way more effective in VT2

[delicate shadow]

shield pro-tip: if you hold block and jump in front of a gun rat, you can fly

[hearty nebula]

same with push attacks

[spare talon]

in my experience blocking is way more effective at prolonging your death

[hearty nebula]

you can fly

but you won't survive the fall

[heady rapids]

not as much as bulwarks are tbh

[naive stirrup]

i did that on skitter gate earlier

[delicate shadow]

please tell me you're running block cost reduction

[heady rapids]

esp with vermintide having flails

[naive stirrup]

bulwarks will open though

[spare talon]

i CANT

im LEVELING

[delicate shadow]

gah

[heady rapids]

shields will also open

[spare talon]

i dont have the resources to do that

[hearty nebula]

i need to get back into vt2

[heady rapids]

double push opens shieldvermin

[naive stirrup]

me after heavy attacking and pushing shields 30 times in a row and they're still closed:

[hearty nebula]

but im rusty and it makes me demoralized

lol

[heady rapids]

shield chaos warrior accumulates stagger until it opens

[heady rapids]

skill issue tbh

[naive stirrup]

rotshields are non-threats tbh

[spare talon]

any time im in a position where im needing to block
i either get hit and take massive damage the moment i stop blocking
or i just have to block till stam runs out then i die from stunlock

[naive stirrup]

shieldvermin are probably 4th on my list of "kill first"

[spare talon]

not to mention things that blocking ignores, like chaos warriors

which ive still yet to actually dodge once

[naive stirrup]

gutter runner, packmaster and ratling being the first 3

[spare talon]

somehow

[hearty nebula]

you can just lower difficulty or run chaos wastes to get xp

chaos wastes super good for leveling up fast

[naive stirrup]

high diff though

level 8 legend

[spare talon]

youd assume that even with darktide more lenient dodge timings, after playing for this long id be able to actually dodge a chaos warrior slam at least once

but nope

[hearty nebula]

difficulty increases don't really offer that much xp difference in vt2

[spare talon]

their timings are just that fucked

[naive stirrup]

it does though
exp multi

[hearty nebula]

did they change it?

[naive stirrup]

legend gives 1.75x

[heady rapids]

the best ways to level up in vermintide are simultaneously the best to get burned out quickly...

[spare talon]

+0.25x multi per difficulty level above 1

[heady rapids]

screaming bell.......

the pit.....

[naive stirrup]

fuck screaming bell

i will quick match legend forever