zealot-class

[placid fiber]

The main thing that helps is getting better at the melee side of combat

and learning dodging

exposure to the mechanics, as it were

[fleet zealot]

voice of command and taunt don't interrupt your dps

[narrow umbra]

duel sword max stats 25% dmg flak and carapace and uncanny and thrust as blessings

purgation flamer max stats 20% dmg flak and unyielding. blessings blaze away and penetrating flame

[fleet zealot]

shield has a trade off, but with walls you are basically immune to specialists and dome is massive cover from ranged enemies

[narrow umbra]

will screenshot my build hang on

[fleet zealot]

why go pen flames if you have an uncanny dueling sword lol

[narrow umbra]

my bf said so 😣

[fleet zealot]

meanwhile chorus, you just sit there for 5 seconds doing no damage

[clever swan]

don't lol at them das mean

[fleet zealot]

u should divorce your bf for being noob /joke

[placid fiber]

lol

[narrow umbra]

he’s rly good 😭

[placid fiber]

:3

[narrow umbra]

but not playing zealot

and he doesn’t rly like to play with me bc im bad

[stone fern]

we're turbo autists with a minimum of 1k hours in playing the same game

[placid fiber]

If he doesn't want to teach you how to play that's more on him than you.

[stone fern]

its ok for it to take time this game does a pisspoor job of teaching you how to play

[fleet zealot]

and ultimately the best builds like voc, taunt and psyker shields still primarily focus on personal dps, and not teamwide buffs

[narrow umbra]

it won’t let me post my build

[fleet zealot]

mainly cause the expectation is that everyone already has their needs met

[placid fiber]

If you want to learn you will get better, even faster by listening to the players who know their stuff

[fleet zealot]

if it makes u feel any ebtter he prob isn't event aht good

you need a red name

[narrow umbra]

no i understand it and its nothing against him bc ik its boring playing on easy modes while u wait for someone to improve

but i want to be good so he likes playing with me but i just don’t understand why im so shit

[clever swan]

if you can upload the image to imgur you can send the link still

[fleet zealot]

which is automatically given by the server bot

[clever swan]

or some other website

[narrow umbra]

that’s true

[fleet zealot]

it's a semi random Chats sent x time spent on server

no one knows the exact range/stats but you'll just get it eventually

[violet hornet]

getting better at darktide in many ways relies on making certain reactions into muscle memory which can take a while

[tame sluice]

and also knowing which of the many skill/talent descriptions in game are outright wrong or incomplete

[placid fiber]

For some people it's quick, for others it takes a while ^

[clever swan]

best thing to do is focus on fundamentals. at least, that's what my favorite animes tell me

[violet hornet]

once you're doing most of your combat subconsciously you can focus more on noticing every little thing going on and prioritizing what to do more effectively

especially melee fundamentals

[placid fiber]

Tide game experience is something that definitely helps you learn faster, but, without tide game experience you are learning from a blank slate

[narrow umbra]

my damage is very bad but i’m killing things i don’t get it

ik o sound like an idiot

[clever swan]

stuff like positioning your camera to maximize your attack angles, good fundamental skill. stuff like knowing when to dodge enemies that you can't see

[narrow umbra]

but i wanna be better 😭

[violet hornet]

survivability is more important than doing damage honestly

[placid fiber]

^

[misty ravine]

Plus VT2, plus VT1, each of which now feel like a mostly easier and very much slower version of Darktide. We worked up to it

[placid fiber]

You can't do damage if you're dead

[narrow umbra]

i’m dead a lot when i play with my bf but not when i play alone 💀

[clever swan]

you could get the scoreboard mod and use it to know whether you're improving or not. could also use it to see how good your bf is comparatively

[placid fiber]

Learning how to survive, what targets to prioritize... those things come with experience

[normal wren]

Is your bf running ahead a lot and aggroeing more hordes

[narrow umbra]

i have it alr😔

he’s rly good im just the issue i suck

[violet hornet]

they do kinda go hand in hand though, killing or stunning an enemy improves your survivability, but knowing how to avoid damage when you can't kill or stun everything is important since healing becomes more sparse as difficulty increases

[clever swan]

try the creature spawner mod and just spend time in psykhanium practicing on your worst moments

[limber trellis]

Always be moving. Keep an eye on your dodge count

[clever swan]

you probably don't play as many games as him, yeahhh?

[normal wren]

Have you tried running something other than the dueling sword?

[narrow umbra]

would u mind sending me the link for that pls

[violet hornet]

try getting the "preternatural dodge" achievement by dodging a certain number of enemy attacks in a row

[normal wren]

Like say the crusher

[clever swan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/25

[narrow umbra]

i used to play a lot of games but i didn’t for 2 years bc ive had more important things and now im getting back into it

[normal wren]

Or eviscerator

[narrow umbra]

okay will do

[narrow umbra]

thank you

[violet hornet]

I hit a barrier while learning darktide before I learned how to consistently dodge melee attacks

and focusing on getting that achievement helped me cross that barrier for sure

[narrow umbra]

yes tried all of the swords and the eviscerator however u spell that

[placid fiber]

consistently dodging helps a bunch

[violet hornet]

Dodging and sliding can keep you alive through some crazy shit

[placid fiber]

^

[narrow umbra]

wait i have it

[misty ravine]

Honestly one of the biggest barriers for brand new players is that jump and dodge are still, after all these years, bound to the same button by default

[narrow umbra]

😭😭

[tame sluice]

and jumping is Almost entirely useless!

[violet hornet]

well that's a good start

[narrow umbra]

i had to move my dodge to my mouse button bc i have wrist injuries i couldn’t reach it

[acoustic dune]

Put it on q

[clever swan]

eh just put it on whatever is best for you, if q is it then pog

[misty ravine]

Best use of it is to reset your dodge count

[acoustic dune]

I don't have wrist injury but I find swap weapon on stink

So I would prob put doge on q

Closer

[clever swan]

doge

[sullen forge]

Forget how fucking disgusting Kira Yoshikage can be

[acoustic dune]

Well jump and doge

[clever swan]

swap weapon isn't that useful if you just press 1 2

[acoustic dune]

And or vault

[narrow umbra]

is flamer fine or not

[acoustic dune]

I just do scroll wheen up as range

[narrow umbra]

should i use something else

[hushed knoll]

It literally is valid

[acoustic dune]

And scroll wheel down as melee

[acoustic dune]

Well do what's faster and easier

[clever swan]

probably works. I personally dislike scroll wheel, it feels like an inconsistent input method. likely depends on mouse model tho

[narrow umbra]

i have my havoc 22 and i can’t get past that

[neat grove]

no tacos you eat with your hand

[narrow umbra]

afterwards i just suck

[acoustic dune]

That's why I do simple imput

[neat grove]

if theyre soft tacos then sure

[narrow umbra]

even worse than usual

[acoustic dune]

Up and down

[violet hornet]

flamers are good against hordes of small targets, so pairing it with a single target / anti armor weapon that doesn't do well against hordes is nice

[acoustic dune]

Shrimply

Powerful

[placid fiber]

even on a mouse where you can make it more consistent... I am not a fan of the scroll wheel

[violet hornet]

but I take throwing knives with the flamer so I can still hit far targets

[acoustic dune]

Anyhow don't mind me had me 2 shot of 42% alchohol rum

[narrow umbra]

ohh that’s smart

[placid fiber]

It's too easy to hit the scroll wheel when you don't want to

[acoustic dune]

Right now I am cooked

[narrow umbra]

what mark for flamer ?

[violet hornet]

damnit I want tacos

[tame sluice]

it only has one

[neat grove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-to-put-it-shrimply-crustacean-marine-biology-gif-27060544

[acoustic dune]

If you have a GAMER mouse side butt9n is quite

[placid fiber]

there is only 1 mk

[narrow umbra]

oh🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[acoustic dune]

I can't feel my face well

[narrow umbra]

not at my pc rn sorry💀

[acoustic dune]

I need another cup

9f rum

[neat grove]

how about water?

or some bread

[acoustic dune]

Was feeling a depress and had to drink

[acoustic dune]

Noh

I need spicer

Spidery food

[neat grove]

[acoustic dune]

I miss spicy food

Fuck it if I could
I would finish the bottle

Atlass

Shit taste like petrol

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-and-spicy-spicy-food-gif-26188989

[acoustic dune]

Fun fact a dish in Thai naked composite drunk (for literal translation) is a very spicy noodle dish

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/gas-prices-petrol-station-homer-simpson-free-petrol-benzinpreise-gif-25072986

[acoustic dune]

Know as phad khi mahu

[violet hornet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbb3dff-4759-499a-80aa-6f95e81981a9/havoc-support-zealot-4 Here's what I use for havocs

[acoustic dune]

I don't remenber karaoke langaguage sadly

[clever swan]

I think creature spawner is an invaluable tool for training fundamentals

[acoustic dune]

Used for country like thai

[clever swan]

Thai is the karaoke language?

[narrow umbra]

is 3 toughness curios better i have one health one toughness one stamina

idk what’s important most

[acoustic dune]

No but they and I use karaoke to spell stuff in english

To have correct pronouciantion

[clever swan]

makes sense

[acoustic dune]

Not thai myself but close

[violet hornet]

I'd say it's personal preference but I think the toughness ones are probably the best bet for learning the game

[narrow umbra]

okay cool thank you

[violet hornet]

Stamina is nice if you're a defense master and need it to keep up your sprints and pushes

[acoustic dune]

Stamina curio are great if you want inf push and or shove

[violet hornet]

Health does give more % than toughness but you generally get more out of toughness since it regenerates many times over a match

[acoustic dune]

I have 2 for inf shove

[violet hornet]

that and you can stack toughness resistance in your build tree to make it more effective hp than the health bonus

[acoustic dune]

M8nd you islts only base toughness

Which stonk

I need another drink

O boy my legs are wack

[narrow umbra]

what’s all the light heavy patterns at the end… ik abt the light and heavy hit but should i do in these patterns or

thanks for being so helpful all :))

[acoustic dune]

Kinda stink that the introduction of zealot skill tree stink

For the first grenade(blitz) is not worth to get other then knife

S8nce it's free stuff like doge where you do it anyway and could count as a passive

Where knife skill tree path become the meta

[placid fiber]

Finally, some good fucking food

[acoustic dune]

And really does not introduce immolation and or stun grenade as a fun skill tree

[clever swan]

each weapon has optimal attack combos for different situations (usually the situations are trying to kill a horde of small enemies vs killing single large targets at a time)

that's probably what that is

[acoustic dune]

The immolation look like a noob trap with free regeneration which isn't that really useful

[narrow umbra]

i haven’t used knife before. do i need to think abt physics when im aiming or does it go exactly where u aim ur crosshair

[clever swan]

gotta think about physics

[placid fiber]

It is from what I could tell

[narrow umbra]

okay

[acoustic dune]

Shrimply think of knife as a short dueling sword

[normal wren]

think about physics post ~15 metersish

[narrow umbra]

how can i find what this should be for each weapon

[acoustic dune]

My teeth feel numbs

Golly

[normal wren]

some of the class guides have them

[clever swan]

some weapons, to be fair, might go straight to the crosshair better than others. but ultimately you should learn to track the actual animation of the weapon to ensure it actually collides with the enemies.

[placid fiber]

asking here generally is a good place to start

[normal wren]

zealot doesnot have a class guide

[acoustic dune]

Prediction of where your enemy would be on heavy is great on knife

[narrow umbra]

okk

[acoustic dune]

Always aim for the head

[clever swan]

good question. probably can use the search function here to look for it "knife combo" or something

[acoustic dune]

If you can

[normal wren]

yeah knives need headies

[acoustic dune]

I too need head

[narrow umbra]

i’m using duelling sword for main weapon is it okay?

[acoustic dune]

If you k ow what I mean

https://tenor.com/view/sup-girl-eyebrows-gif-25755293

[normal wren]

I don't can you explain

[placid fiber]

^ doesn't matter the weapon. The main time this might not be the case is maulers if your finesse damage doesn't compensate for the lower damage to carapace

[clever swan]

she means thinking about the actual position of the weapon during an attack animation, I think.

[violet hornet]

These are the attack patterns I use for the Mark X Relic Blade, every weapon has it's own single target and horde clear combos you can use to get specific swing types when you need them

[clever swan]

among the best and easiest weapons in the game

[narrow umbra]

i mean the throwing knife for that q

[normal wren]

ah not throwing knives

[languid perch]

Hello fellow zealots, I'm curious what you guys reccomend perk wise for the heavy sword

[placid fiber]

flakiac

[clever swan]

oh mb. yeah there's some drop

[hard nexus]

those true duos with dorn say otherwise

[lament blaze]

[narrow umbra]

what pattern for that would u say?

[clever swan]

ignore me I'm regarded

[placid fiber]

flakiac is flak + maniac

[languid perch]

Okedokey thank you

[normal wren]

hello regarded I'm ebil

[languid perch]

And which blessings would yall reccomend

[normal wren]

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957

EBIL!!!!

[clever swan]

I think dueling sword is the simplest combo ever. you either spam light against hordes. or spam heavy against big units.

[normal wren]

heavy special*

[narrow umbra]

cool cool thank you

thanks for actually helping guys

[normal wren]

hey you can post your build now

[placid fiber]

U got a red name now :3

[narrow umbra]

on other games i would get verbal abuse for being this stupid

yay

[placid fiber]

dw, we're helpful here(generally speaking lol)

[clever swan]

we often are quite mean

[normal wren]

but yeah I find the dueling sword to be a trap, and for less crackhead players some horde clear weapons are better

[placid fiber]

"Yeah, fuk u!"

[clever swan]

not me tho

[placid fiber]

or smthing like that

[normal wren]

you just get whatr you put in

[placid fiber]

I like being helpful, myself.

That's why I listen to the people who know their shit about weapons >.>

[narrow umbra]

is there something i should change on this ? i will try out the knives too

[clever swan]

is the special worth doing for its damage or for its stagger? or both?

[normal wren]

both

[narrow umbra]

backwards order but u get it

[normal wren]

it also helps rythm

[languid perch]

So what classifies as a maniac?

[normal wren]

dreg ragers, dreg flamers, mutants

[languid perch]

You'd think I'd know this lmao

[normal wren]

no problem

[languid perch]

100%d the game and didn't know this haha

[narrow umbra]

appreciate any suggestions for improvement

[normal wren]

I'll offer you something to help you stay alive

agile/uncanny on the dueling sword is what I use

[normal wren]

precog/uncanny is the more meta setup for zealots

[narrow umbra]

i’ll give that a go

[normal wren]

agile resets your dodges on weakspot hits

[clever swan]

one thing you'll learn is that all the advice we give you is somewhat arguable

[normal wren]

so you can just spam dodge while in a horde

[obsidian prairie]

Agile creates very bad habits I wouldn’t recommend it

[placid fiber]

Agile is a crutch you don't want to end up relying on, tho, for long anyway

[normal wren]

it does make bad habits because it keeps you laive too well

[narrow umbra]

oh okay

[placid fiber]

Infinite dodges is nice for memes, but, it can build bad habits

[narrow umbra]

is thrust okay

[normal wren]

it is a very rare blessing that allows one to do some dumb things

thrust isn't that worth it on the dueling sword for zealot I think

[placid fiber]

thrust is one of the meta blessings

[obsidian prairie]

Enables bossing schenanigans

[acoustic dune]

It's a jack of all trade stuff

[normal wren]

because you do more damage just heavy specialing

[acoustic dune]

I personally like it

Ey gale

[placid fiber]

Gale, pick stan

PICK STAN

[sullen forge]

The 3 combos I’ve seen from characters on here that just fascinate me are Valentine, Kira, and Pucci (Whitesnake)

[placid fiber]

@hushed knoll What happens if you put ketchup on a beaver?

[hard nexus]

chained deathblow perfect strike heavysword

hrm…

[violet hornet]

precog riposte

[normal wren]

btw fellows, bet crowd control related blessing for the thunderhammer for hordeing slightly better

[acoustic dune]

You explode

[hard nexus]

slaughterer headtaker

[placid fiber]

Shhh, don't tell him the answer

[acoustic dune]

Ah pardon me then

[hard nexus]

or take ironhelm

[normal wren]

which one do you think is better?

[placid fiber]

slaughterer headtaker for horde clear specifically

[drifting wolf]

both

[normal wren]

I'm running thrust for other things

[visual stream]

Slaughterer on Ironhelm at least

[normal wren]

just have a free slot

[hard nexus]

i personally prefer slaughterer, but headtaker has its arguments

[visual stream]

On Ironhelm you want Thrust and Slaught

[hard nexus]

slaughterer is just more damage

[placid fiber]

Slaughterer for better horde clear overall, headtaker for more consistent horde clear overall

[hard nexus]

but headtaker stacks easier

[normal wren]

headtaker it is then

[visual stream]

Slaught stacks way easier on IH and the extra damage boosts you to better breakpoints

[normal wren]

consistency is key with these 50 deep hordes

[normal wren]

hmm the choice is made harder

[visual stream]

If you're using Ironhelm, take Slaught

[normal wren]

but yeah can't get behing the ironhelm

[visual stream]

If you're using Crucis, there is a debate

[normal wren]

just doesn't feel good for me

[visual stream]

Not for everyone

Play what you like

[hard nexus]

just take slaughterer, it stacks best in hordes anyway

[clever swan]

[placid fiber]

@narrow umbra one other thing: in almost all cases: if the weapon has mobility or defences those are the dump stats(the one that is 60% at 500 rating)... the flamer, bolt pistol, and bolter are a few exceptions(flamer has damage for the dump stat, bolter and bolt pistol have collateral)

[narrow umbra]

ooh okay

i’ll make a new one

also what blessings and perks for that

[placid fiber]

It's just a good in general tip to know. If you have any questions you can ask

[placid fiber]

flak + whatever you hate most for the dueling sword

[rocky nacelle]

part 7 combos are all cool

honestly everyone has some pretty crazy/cool routing in this game

[acoustic dune]

personally ynellding and carpace are my go to

[rocky nacelle]

kusoge after all

[narrow umbra]

what is considered unyielding enemy sorry i’m so dumb😭

[acoustic dune]

also ey para

[placid fiber]

bulwark, reaper, monsters(not captains/twins)

[rocky nacelle]

ogryns and bosses

[narrow umbra]

also why is damage less important here

[visual stream]

Bulwark skin, reaper skin, bosses

[acoustic dune]

how is it gaming

[narrow umbra]

out of interest

[placid fiber]

flamer gets damage from the burn stat, 20% damage amounts to maybe 1 extra dps

[narrow umbra]

okay thanks

ahh okay

[acoustic dune]

for flamer you get damage from burn more then anything else

mean doge and damage are dump stat

[hard nexus]

it’s a difference of 1 damage

and all your damage comes from your burn stacks

and having a higher mobility helps with dodging while flaming

blessings for flamer in pins

[placid fiber]

3 different people with roughly the same answer lol

[narrow umbra]

man i’ve just bought 20 and not a single one has damage dump

[hard nexus]

i gotta rewrite that to be more detailed

[narrow umbra]

i’ll take it 🫡

[placid fiber]

You can use mobility until you can find one with damage

[hard nexus]

i was the most in depth though !

[acoustic dune]

dump mobillity work too

[slate notch]

Anyone using shroud with duelling sword? Is it worth over good 'ol knife?

[acoustic dune]

also ey meow

[narrow umbra]

finally

[acoustic dune]

how is it meowing

[narrow umbra]

got one

[clever swan]

still saying doge eh

[placid fiber]

As long as burn is 76%, cloud radius is 80%, and ammo is 80% you're good on the flamer

damage dump is the meta tho

[hard nexus]

it works well, but most everyone prefers chastise

[acoustic dune]

fair nuff but i arlady spent my gambling moolah

[slate notch]

Yeah, I'm so tired of duolingo sword and chast, that's why I thought maybe works too with shroud, probably will but better than knife?

[acoustic dune]

shround kinda stink

[placid fiber]

shroud + knife is kinda a meme

[acoustic dune]

i remcommend not getting a cooldown for it

[placid fiber]

it works, but, it is still kinda a meme

[rocky nacelle]

you suck the most though

noob

[acoustic dune]

if you are going shround the thammer is a go too with marty

i find the relic blade work well aswell

[hard nexus]

nuh uhs at u

[placid fiber]

plague ogryn 1 shotting memes!

[hard nexus]

then try something other than ds4!

ds4 is boring

[placid fiber]

do the ds2

[slate notch]

It doesn't matter if it's a meme, I just need to take a break from chorus havoc and duolingo + Fury

[acoustic dune]

as much as i like dueling sowrd it does stink

its a meta weapon

with no fun

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stink-bad-breath-stank-face-smelly-gif-16392254

[acoustic dune]

thank you phill

very cool

[placid fiber]

If you want fun the dueling sword definitely is not it lol

[narrow umbra]

what blessings for the flamer please

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sucks-to-suck-cod-sucks-to-suck-sucks-to-suck-cod-zombies-sucks-to-suck-primis-sucks-to-suck-primis-crew-gif-21565550

[placid fiber]

blaze away + overpressure/penetrating flames

If your melee covers armor then blaze away + overpressure

[narrow umbra]

cool thank you

[acoustic dune]

rending on flamer is consider a meme

[slate notch]

I already did! Been playing with almost all of them but always with Fury, so since shroud is my least favourite I wondered how would it be for a change

[acoustic dune]

going full streght flamer

is the go to

[placid fiber]

I might like inspiring barrage, but, I know what to suggest to the newbies lol

[hard nexus]

pins

BA OP is the best though

[placid fiber]

^

[acoustic dune]

god i need a shave

[hard nexus]

i need 5 dollars

yet here we are

[placid fiber]

I need a shave too... but I have a razor at home >.>

[acoustic dune]

unlike gal like ya i need to shave or else ill look like a commie

well viet commie

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/comunism-gif-22603522

knify ^

[acoustic dune]

jesus churst

what happen to your inventory

[narrow umbra]

wdym😭

[placid fiber]

That's what my inventory looks like... like 2 or 3 weapons lol

[narrow umbra]

i just discard the others

just discarded all my money trying to get this weapon right 💀

[placid fiber]

oof

[narrow umbra]

-400,000+

[acoustic dune]

new player i swear
they are, as cica would say it
grub geub

[tame sluice]

is there a reason I see so many zealots just spam light attacks on relic blade

[hard nexus]

wrong

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-hazen-audel-a-larvae-lunch-primal-survivor-protein-gif-19207478

[tame sluice]

is that better horde clear than the sweeping heavies

[hard nexus]

that’s not when you’d use grub

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-hazen-audel-a-larvae-lunch-primal-survivor-protein-gif-19207478

USE THE GRUB

USE THE GRUB

[hard nexus]

because they’re bad

[placid fiber]

USE THE GRU-

[acoustic dune]

PHILL YOU POST TOO LATE

[narrow umbra]

que

[hard nexus]

also depends on the mk

[acoustic dune]

I AM THE GRUB KING

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-hazen-audel-a-larvae-lunch-primal-survivor-protein-gif-19207478

[hard nexus]

mk10 you can spam lights and get away with it

[acoustic dune]

i need another drink

[clever swan]

dont do that

[tame sluice]

you're telling me the most played class has the highest density of bad players?

[hard nexus]

mk2 needs a combo

[acoustic dune]

o boyy i cant type well now

[narrow umbra]

why

[acoustic dune]

am i cooked

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/ravages-of-time-cockroach-gif-7427924926504288484

[clever swan]

you can upgrade them and use them to master any weapon

instead of discarding

[acoustic dune]

horyshit i forgor i type that
I AM COOKED

guess ill have other shot

[narrow umbra]

i watched a video it said better to just buy a loy of the same upgrade to green and then use for mastery

but i will not discard anymore

[clever swan]

yeah but i mean

[placid fiber]

for like... 2k exp each orange

[clever swan]

you could discard them if you already mastered that weapon, probaly

[acoustic dune]

god if i eat now ill puke

[narrow umbra]

need to play and get some coins now im BROKE

[clever swan]

but if you have a bunch of greys, instead of discarding you can just green them and sacrifice them

(either now or later)

[narrow umbra]

😓

[acoustic dune]

regular damnation is a great framing method

[placid fiber]

Tru, but, weapons that are already orange are great for resources when ur out of plasteel lol

[narrow umbra]

i will do that 🫡

[acoustic dune]

PHILL I NEED MOOSIC

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/moose-nature-gif-24639455

[acoustic dune]

the head is spinning

[narrow umbra]

cya in a game guys

[acoustic dune]

i am on my 4th shot

HELP

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mordhau-spinning-warrior-gif-14035301

[narrow umbra]

i will use all ur tips 🫡

[acoustic dune]

dont post mordhau stinky boy

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-crab-gun-crab-gun-katamari-damacy-gif-11828792778288815909

[acoustic dune]

i am drinking it like tequilla

on a 42% alchohol

i am cook phil

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tequila-shots-oh-yeah-tequila-hunk-gif-12420583

[acoustic dune]

gib me music

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[acoustic dune]

the murlock aint doing it for me

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/murloc-rage-gif-6169404261184144856

[acoustic dune]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4Da4ezg1FELOSYUURkFH4h?si=93063b2290264967#

great band

o boy its spinning

phill

[placid fiber]

I'm not the guy you go to for music >_>'

[acoustic dune]

i dont have not much time

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

[acoustic dune]

YOU MUST THROW ME MSOOSIC

ITS SPINNING

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sniffing-moose-viralhog-curious-moose-is-someone-out-there-gif-27108944

[acoustic dune]

I DONT FEEL HEAT NOR COLD

THE RUM IS RIGHT NEXT TO ME

[placid fiber]

I advise going to bedge

Or eating something that isn't greasy

[acoustic dune]

telling this to a drunk lad doesnt help

[placid fiber]

I mean good advise falls on deaf ears all the time :3

[acoustic dune]

i will vomit and its a hour away for cook rice

[placid fiber]

Uh you might want to go to the toilet then

[acoustic dune]

i feel like fly fixing me hair

[sullen forge]

Okay imo Gyro and Valentine have the swaggiest combos with Diego Scary Monsters as a runner up

[acoustic dune]

i actually do wonder

how well do i draw while drunk

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tidur-tidur-terus-ngantuk-kuburan-receh-gif-12795215

[acoustic dune]

give me a shrimple subject to draw

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kaden-bear-walk-gif-15031442544519350917

This ^

[acoustic dune]

what silhouette

[placid fiber]

Um... potato

[acoustic dune]

give me a decription

[placid fiber]

with 24 legs

and uh

[acoustic dune]

this will be my third time drawing drunk

[placid fiber]

a majestic moustache

And raggedy yellow teeth

[acoustic dune]

i am so fucking cooked

for experiment sake

give me smth har to draw

[placid fiber]

I just did lol

[acoustic dune]

aand i will try to draw under 10 min

[placid fiber]

Um...

An anvil

with a tongue

and cica's face

[acoustic dune]

sblud thats arleady hard without behind drunk

[placid fiber]

YOu asked for something hard lol

[acoustic dune]

o boy my tablet is on da fllor

think of smth of mid level

hard enough for frail wank but easy enough with experience

or dont

i am at the point idc enough anyway

[placid fiber]

um

a pencil

That is also a bendy straw

[acoustic dune]

i just missed 2 shot missing to close the bottle

progrom crash me think

[merry flume]

Chris Chan straw

[acoustic dune]

its either to cold or too war,

i cant tell

[placid fiber]

Still drawing better than I do lol

[acoustic dune]

dont boost m3 ego

give me challlenge

the ssoviet music

[placid fiber]

I literally draw as bad as a kindergartener

[acoustic dune]

is supporting me

[placid fiber]

Anvil with uh... a crab dancing on it

[sullen forge]

Foretold in legend

[acoustic dune]

you are telling me to draw a child

i shant

[placid fiber]

draw hadron as a blond

[acoustic dune]

my fodder wukk be 3gib when i wake up

[acoustic dune]

i dont colour but sute

trypung is arleady hard enough

ill drink to that

[placid fiber]

Oh God

[acoustic dune]

i cant me nose anymore

[placid fiber]

Got any ideas for stuff to draw? I'm running out of ideas that are comprehensible

[acoustic dune]

3rd time my table keep fallin tze floorr

itx all code now

[sullen forge]

Sonichu cause Chris Chan was brought up

[acoustic dune]

what was your requestphil

[acoustic dune]

i cant draw that

i willpiss m come back

o boy head spin now

hadron as a blond|
does not compute

[long oasis]

how drunk is this man

[acoustic dune]

i am on my 42% th alcohol shot

and i just pissed

[tame sluice]

just makes their hood yellow

nothing else

[acoustic dune]

on a empty stomach

i think i just defeated the cold

[placid fiber]

Yes

[acoustic dune]

as not i am naked and doesnst feel the cold

on a

[fleet zealot]

It’s chilly

[placid fiber]

Quick I need ideas for knify to draw... I'm running out of ideas... my last one was draw hadron as a blond... x.x

[fleet zealot]

Draw grendyl the Ogryn inquisitor

[long oasis]

Rannick ripping that Chaos Inquisitor ultrasour tzeenchian shadow garden pack

[placid fiber]

Ooo I got one: draw my little pony, but, with ogryns instead of ponies... "My little Ogryn"

[fleet zealot]

Year of the (fur)snake

[placid fiber]

Sweet! I love that kind of snake!

It doesn't have venom >_>

[narrow umbra]

oh my god cute

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/furetto-ferret-chat-chat-morta-dead-chat-gif-20967081

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[opaque island]

im gonna make your ice cubes with hot dog water

[hearty nebula]

im gonna boil those hotdogs in mustard

[reef flower]

I unlocked the chainsaw thingy

:D

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[opaque island]

im gonna go on a limb and say they mean the evisc

[fleet zealot]

Give me your worldly possessions

[leaden gate]

i should probably ask this in an LFG channel but i might as well try here too, any fellow zealots want to help me get the shocking stuff penance?

[fleet zealot]

Okay now i'm having a new issue

wtih cpu throttling

after a month of working normally again

[reef flower]

Lll

[clever swan]

why

heat?

[winged aspen]

https://youtu.be/opBQ84BCth0?si=o5xrWgOVQ4DDhyh6

[wanton fossil]

This is such a cursed sentence

But I expect no less opening this chat

With that in mind, how’s it going zealot chat?

[winged aspen]

SLAYING HERETICS FOR THE BENEFICENT EMPEROR 🗣️‼️‼️

[violet hornet]

Just had brutes + lights out up which meant getting some bonus DH kills with the thammer so I'd say pretty good

[misty nova]

Level 11?

[violet hornet]

always crazy seeing someone that's lower level than their havoc clearance

[copper hawk]

Yah.. i didnt do too good lmfao

Sometime.. in blue moon.. i almost match ur dmg..

I am still noob..

[modern lintel]

always noob

@copper hawk warthujder

[sullen forge]

@rocky nacelle

[copper hawk]

Work unfortunately

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/pestrica-caption-jester-minor-inconvenience-devil-sticks-gif-1206295765900392124

[copper hawk]

TROO

https://tenor.com/view/pestrica-caption-jester-minor-inconvenience-devil-sticks-gif-1206295765900392124

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-miku-miku-beam-beam-sawtowne-gif-17984643835845568705

[copper hawk]

MIKU !!!!!!!

[gray ice]

I see we're in full force today

[copper hawk]

Heh.. I see the DORK squad is out in full force today..

[gray ice]

my bones

they cannot believe they saw dork used in 2025

blast from the past

[sullen forge]

Kevin from Edd Ed and Eddy

[hard nexus]

no

i meant u being aggresive

[gray ice]

that's the voice I read it in

it's ingrained from how much I used to watch that show

[copper hawk]

Oh

[copper hawk]

Thought u meant i did Bad

I did more dmg than him all of the attemptz ,,

By a large meowrgin ,,

U hateth me ,,

[hard nexus]

no?

[grizzled aspen]

That's because Dorn holds S to play the game.

[hard nexus]

crazy how immediately after his duos u played with me

and it was

pretty easy

[copper hawk]

Yah

It was fun too

[sullen forge]

I’m glad I’m not alone

[hard nexus]

playing aggressive is good!!!

[copper hawk]

U weren't a jerk

[sullen forge]

Makes me grin like a fucking idiot

[copper hawk]

U were vry pawesome and pleasant

I told Dorn that we're never duoing again after that lmfao

NEBER AGAINE !!

[hard nexus]

awesome

[grizzled aspen]

Btw @sullen forge you know how Dorn made his goalpost of skill be "no ds or knife, clear h40"?

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/margo-walking-hands-up-joel-g-gif-23856023

Bye felicia..

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah immediately after he learned I did that he moved his goalpost again.

[copper hawk]

Y r u vying for dorn's approval

[grizzled aspen]

"Now do it without infinite cleave staves and flamers."

[copper hawk]

He got outdamaged by gloopy ouppy

[sullen forge]

And you’re surprised because?

[gray ice]

same lmao

[grizzled aspen]

I'm not, I just find it amusing that he's terrified of normal people passing his expectations.

[hard nexus]

no purg is a valid point tbf

[copper hawk]

Makes u grin like baka chudgus

[sullen forge]

I play havoc 40 with the mindest of

Put the fries in the bag

I want it over with

[misty nova]

Voidstrike still strong

[copper hawk]

Ds or knife honestly is harder

Than like relic chorhs

Chorus

[modern lintel]

relic chastise my beloved

[copper hawk]

If ur w ur team

[grizzled aspen]

Well his argument there is that rb has clearly defined downsides.

[copper hawk]

Speedrunning doesnt count

[gray ice]

If you can clear h40 who cares what you do it with

[grizzled aspen]

I.e. you are slow with poop dodges.

[copper hawk]

I dont respect u if u get carried thru an h40

[sullen forge]

The block button

[copper hawk]

Only time i care tbh

[gray ice]

yea but that's why I said if you can clear, not get carried through lol

[sullen forge]

Idgaf if you do your clear defined role and all stats are relatively evened out

[hard nexus]

the dodges honestly aren’t that bad

[copper hawk]

Me watching the True Survivor max clear level 54 zeal die in the first engagement on carnival hav 38

[gray ice]

we don't stand for afkers

i dunno why relic blade dodges have caught so much flak

[copper hawk]

Cuz they're super bleh

[sullen forge]

Cause people are ass

[gray ice]

I've never felt like they were too slow or I get caught

[modern lintel]

watching the true survivor get atomized via crusher

[hard nexus]

they felt gross initially but i think it was just placebo/me bitching

[sullen forge]

And don’t realize that blocking is a key component to RB gameplay

[gray ice]

I dodge crusher overheads even on 1 charge

[copper hawk]

I still dont like them

Im spoiled rotten on hs dodges

[hard nexus]

huh

[copper hawk]

I loooove hs dodges

[gray ice]

Granted I had more practice than others, but uit would've turned out this way regardless

[grizzled aspen]

You get 4 dodges according to the tool tip but it feels more like 2.

[copper hawk]

huh

[sullen forge]

You don’t understand how much it’s saved me

[hard nexus]

hmm

[grizzled aspen]

Devs noted a large stamina pool on drop for a reason.

[gray ice]

I remember rumor going around that the dodges were bugged the first few days and I was utterly confused

[modern lintel]

relic has rlly good block stam

[sullen forge]

3 Stam and it’s super fucking useful

[grizzled aspen]

Blocking can and will save your ass with it.

[copper hawk]

I block and spam push until my dodges come back then i dont block

3 stam curio..

Aeeuuugh..

[sullen forge]

Yeah like REALLY good

[hard nexus]

i mean yeah but like

just dodge

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-dead-ko-faint-gif-17440398

[modern lintel]

if w out stam curio relics still v good block

[sullen forge]

Activation and Deactivate also have a block frame

[copper hawk]

Dies of death related causes

[grizzled aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/crackbert3.gif

[sullen forge]

FUCKING BLOCK THEY ARE LITERALLY TELLING YOU TO BLOCK!!!!

[gray ice]

half the reason I think relic gets the block stam it does is because of auto-block on activate

[hard nexus]

blocking gets you killed!!!

if you’re in a situation where you need to block

then that’s a bad sign

and those situations usually just end up getting you block staggered

and taking a shit ton of damage

[grizzled aspen]

But blocking can mean the difference of pulling you out of that bad situation and having your team wipe.

[hard nexus]

as in ragers, or surrounded

[gray ice]

blocking is definitely a bit less black and white then people paint it here

[grizzled aspen]

We aren't telling you to adopt a shield ogryn mindset, we are just saying blocking is a viable defensive option to use while your dodges reset.

[hard nexus]

i have like

30 attacks blocked per game

max

usually lower than that

[gray ice]

there's plenty of situations where blocking an attack or two helps for a variety of reasons

dodging is very obviously the go to first answer, but blocking is a good tool to utilize

[stone fern]

bruh what is the infested adm on rashad 1 knife + 1 hit should kill it

[sullen forge]

I’m not saying block spam

[grizzled aspen]

Meow is just a noob smh.

[hard nexus]

what no healthbars does to a mfer

[sullen forge]

I’m literally saying integrate blocks into your pushes or dodges in order to get more value out of defensive play

[upper flare]

hey gamers should i be tapping my flamer or full sending it into the thiccest hordes in havoc? never really played much zealot

[grizzled aspen]

Step 1, stop playing martyr rashad.

[sullen forge]

Cause it’s helped a shit ton

[grizzled aspen]

Never m1 without fan the flames on it.

[stone fern]

i have litearlly been playing nothing but thammer for 3 days

[hard nexus]

tapping flamer is only good for staggering, mainly for bursters, for hordes just brace and hold m1

[stone fern]

this is my first rashad game in a while

[gray ice]

brace and fire till the bbq smell stops

[grizzled aspen]

You can burn about 10 ammo for max burn stacks and return to melee.

People like to burn the whole tank and thats a waste.

[upper flare]

forsure thanks y'all

[runic grotto]

what keystone do I take with chainaxe?

[gray ice]

IJ

[grizzled aspen]

IJ, every time.

[sullen forge]

None

Throw the weapon away

[stone fern]

MARTY

[north sedge]

Ij or marty

[stone fern]

marty on everything

[hard nexus]

for ogryns and elite packs it’s not, considering it keeps blaze away at max stacks

[stone fern]

knife? MARTY

[runic grotto]

So like this

[hard nexus]

and bosses*

[stone fern]

this is the way

[sullen forge]

Man guys Zealot tree looks so interesting to spec into and it’s just

Right left right

Done

[gray ice]

play middle embrace death

[grizzled aspen]

I cannot be bothered to argue this for ammo economy.

[gray ice]

scream for the emperor

[grizzled aspen]

🚬

[hard nexus]

it’s fine i know im right

[grizzled aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-noob-blocked-gif-26348686

[runic grotto]

with this

[gray ice]

go forth and take knees

[sullen forge]

Could probably swap Cara for something else

[tame sluice]

+maniacs lets light attacks one shot headshot dreg ragers

with the green one

[runic grotto]

I am taking +cara for the event

[sullen forge]

But this is literally dependent on how racist are you feeling towards certain enemy types today

Unyielding imo

Reapers and Bulwarks

That and Plogryn

[runic grotto]

maybe

[tame sluice]

yeah chainaxe kinda innately dumpsters carapace

[sullen forge]

I’d recommend that seeing you’re directly countering 3/4 enemy types in Brute Conscript waves

Shredder stat + Rev damage

Juicy juicy carapace damage

[grizzled aspen]

Duellist chastise h1 will eat a plogryn for breakfast...

[fleet zealot]

I dont think so

It is feeling room temp even

Its throttling different too

Up and down from 4.0 to 0.5

[fleet zealot]

Now it’s booting but not reading my usb slots

[hearty nebula]

REAL

[wanton fossil]

They’re shocked to learn lesbians eat kale 🥬

[hearty nebula]

ikr thats so gross

[fleet zealot]

i only like kale one way

[frosty herald]

relic blade special activation block is extremely good at negating enemy backstabs

[fleet zealot]

lightly roast fried until crispy with a sprinky of salt

otherwise it's just sassy leafy green

[frosty herald]

just activate the moment you hear the out of view audio que for a melee attack

[fleet zealot]

ok so everything looking as normal

i messed with my ram and I was right

i was only getting one ram stick read

[wanton fossil]

Just have collards instead smh

[fleet zealot]

now i'm back to 16gb

now i'm praying

my cpu doesn't throttle

[remote lark]

@drowsy steppe

[hearty nebula]

mal would kill themselves if that happened

[wanton fossil]

Can’t do that to my boy

[sturdy cypress]

this would never happen...

[grizzled aspen]

I love it when dt is unplayable because I cant get into a lobby without desync...

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1330585799695274106/Bang_Bang.mp4?ex=678e8417&is=678d3297&hm=8727bf48bc53ed448b26850f6edbdf6f51db0a9f73ef88f48e12ba6a1cc8f8c9&

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[median steeple]

I need to play the new event more

but

it's so ass

[sullen forge]

Its not-

its genuinely peak

[median steeple]

I HATE ogryn enemies

[frosty herald]

Silent crushers

[violet hornet]

bring a thammer and an armor hate flamer

[frosty herald]

Also being jumped by 20 maulers at any given time

[violet hornet]

or a crusher, that was quite successful too

and avoid the brutes + dogs, it's bullshit

[opaque island]

If a scamp from elder scrolls manifested in your house rn, do you think you'd be able to beat it?

[median steeple]

since it's only on auric everyone who wants the rewards are queuing for it including people who aren't ready for it

so I keep getting matched with people who shouldn't be here

[opaque island]

.....

[median steeple]

telepathic brail

[violet hornet]

that's silly they obviously speak in morse code

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-meme-sad-dante-dante-sit-dante-tired-gif-16988616942949961654

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/professor-x-charles-xavier-x-men-gif-2354920336587206351

[opaque island]

Xavier Blast!

[grizzled aspen]

Queued up with 2 true level 40 ogryns earlier.

Pain.

If I can get my pc to stop giving me desync I may do Paul gaming.

[terse hedge]

Im so mad!!! Zealot deserves helbore lasgun!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

No, we don't.

What we do deserve is a melta gun.

I NEED to blast a bulwark at point blank with a melta and remove all the flesh from the front of his body with it.

[zinc talon]

there's zero cohesion on how meltas actually work as far as black library is concerned

I feel like SM2 did a gbood enough job with em

but they were essentially just penetration shotguns

[grizzled aspen]

I may go insane.

[median steeple]

pretty sure they were never described how they are in space marine

it's always a beam or just like an invisible heat ray

[frosty herald]

Sm2 and boltgun use the same attack for the meltagun

A big cone blast

[tame sluice]

clearly veteran will get melta gun and it just fires charged force greatsword waves with every trigger pull

[neat grove]

yo anyone know who made the sound track for darktide and what brand of cocaine they were using when they made it?

[misty nova]

Jesper Kyd

Uh

On that Assassin's Creed, Hitman Ganja

[neat grove]

he not only understood the assignment but good god did he say "hold my beer"

[modern lintel]

@median steeple https://x.com/PESTRiCA/status/1875893617900068904?t=XVBG3i_2_PNQtFcckpIW7A&s=19

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[grizzled aspen]

The guy running the pen dump bleed knife dc'd as soon as he touched the floor.

[median steeple]

do fxtwitter for it to embed

[modern lintel]

i dont speak that language

[median steeple]

RAAAAAAAAH

fxtwitter.com so you can watch videos without having to click on the link !

https://tenor.com/view/pestrica-jester-clown-fail-whoops-gif-12543817428604436461

[modern lintel]

no puter

[opaque island]

https://fxtwitter.com/PESTRiCA/status/1875893617900068904?t=XVBG3i_2_PNQtFcckpIW7A&s=19

[opaque island]

I wish i still had this much energy

[hard nexus]

noh

sm2 should not have meltas as crowd weapons

they are anti tank weapons!!!

[violet hornet]

same with their thunder hammer

anti tank portrayed as anti crowd

[north sedge]

Funny thing is everyone complained the th in this wasn't aoe

[hallow oxide]

I’ve been loving the assault chainsword a lot lately, been using it on auric maelstroms and making my way up the havoc ranks with it

[stone fern]

darktide is unironically one of the most true to lore/tabletop rules warhammer games

[rare kelp]

so real

[hard nexus]

real!!!!!!

[hard nexus]

LITERALLY

[grizzled aspen]

Counterargument, that crusher is armored like a tank.

Therefore I will treat him as such.

[hard nexus]

what

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/ew8yXLCkf5U.gif

[hard nexus]

no im saying that melta should be an anti tank weapons

not a horde weapon

[grizzled aspen]

Oh I misunderstood.

Brain scrampled egg.

As you can see by my damage taken in the match I just played, I ate two crusher overheads.

Literally the only damage I took the entire mission, too.

Quite annoying.

Back to back, first one was from wonky geometry and it ate my passive, second one was a teammate dragging it into me because apparently boltgun is a good thing to whip out when there are four crushers in your face.

[faint vapor]

got hit? brb blocking UwU

[grizzled aspen]

Quite literally neither hit was my fault. :(

Stairs and teammate being dumb and fighting in melee with a gun out.

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway combat shotgun and crusher works good for this modifier.

I can open a bulwark and blast him twice, 3tap a reaper, and be able to stagger crushers out of overheads.

[vague depot]

slug rounds?

[obsidian prairie]

Also running agile DS

I'm going to kill this vet

AND A LACERATE MERCY KILLER KNIFE

AAAAAAAAAA

[magic basin]

whos skull is this? that aint human

[modern lintel]

mutants be like

[grizzled aspen]

The nerds... @sullen forge @merry flume

[polar nexus]

goddamn

[misty ravine]

"You all just refuse to understand or think outside the box of the so-called meta that youtubers and steam guides have spoonfed you! Terrifying Barrage really helps! You have to think about more than just damage! I bet you haven't tried it in a real game!"

(paraphrasing an actual comment I once saw on leddit about Terrifying Barrage)

[modern lintel]

you knows better then suppressing enemies

killing them

[placid fiber]

You don't say

[misty ravine]

Some people think they're being bigbrains for building something other than damage—even in contexts where it really is most efficient to just do more damage.

These same people tend to overspecialize in one particular role, say they will rely on their TEAM to cover their shortcomings in this TEAM game using TEAMwork.

Whenever I ask these people if Left 4 Dead had no teamwork (all charcters mechanically the same, no hard separation between roles), or if offloading responsibilites onto teammates when you could have done them yourself is actually the opposite of teamwork, they never seem to have an answer

[vocal olive]

You heard it here guys

No more chorus, as it's most efficient to just do more damage

No more shout or bubble

[misty ravine]

Which was the prevailing consensus until Havoc

[modern lintel]

yes

[placid fiber]

shout, unlike chorus, doesn't interrupt your dps

[misty ravine]

Taking advantage of overpowered CDR to spam defensive abilities is far more intellectually based and teampilled than taking advantage of overpowered CDR to spam offensive abilities

[lament blaze]

Chorus increases teammate dps substantially by letting them just swing with little regard for their own safety

You are not kneecapping your teams dps by chorusing

[vocal olive]

Especially not with that 20% damage increase node after 5 pulses

[lament parrot]

zealot knife any good feels kinda bad to use

[grizzled aspen]

You're kneecapping your own, which is arguably worse.

:)

[lament blaze]

If you don't trust your teammates find a new team

Is my stance

[placid fiber]

up until they gave us the dueling sword it was the most op melee on zealot

[obsidian prairie]

Those nodes are typically not worth it

[modern lintel]

dont need piss toughness if everythings been killed

[lament parrot]

sry i m,ean the grenade

[modern lintel]

best option

[grizzled aspen]

Think of it like this, right. Assume everybody on your team has a dps value of 100, as they are all running around doing whatever it is theyre doing. Chorus bumps everyone up to 125 except you, and you fall to 0, because youre doing nothing. 400 is greater than 375.

[placid fiber]

it's the best blitz on zealot, talent efficiency-wise

[lament parrot]

use case non armored elites?

[zealous mesa]

what do you guys think of blazing piety eviscerator with shred and perfect strike

i can cleave through 3 maulers

[modern lintel]

everything other then mauler crusher and monstros

[grizzled aspen]

Headshot specialists and gunners/shotgunners/ragers.

[lament blaze]

Think of it like this, right. Assume everybody on your team has a dps value of 100, as they are all running around doing whatever it is they're doing. Not chorusing causes someone go to down, because you aren't saving them. 300 is less than 375

[lament parrot]

interesting, might have to rebind stuff to use it better

[grizzled aspen]

Skill issue.

Maybe dont go down, noob.

[fleet zealot]

l4d2 teamplay was more, macro

[modern lintel]

simply dont go down

[lament blaze]

Now look who is trusting thier team

[grizzled aspen]

I shouldnt have to gimp myself to enable my teammates to play the game.

[fleet zealot]

covering eachother, your reloads, equipping the meta loadout

[lament blaze]

Which one is it? Teammates cannot be trusted or they can?

[grizzled aspen]

Pubbers can't.

[fleet zealot]

LOL

[grizzled aspen]

Premades can.

[fleet zealot]

if you aren't chorusing your teammate goes down and does no damage

😔

[grizzled aspen]

If I go into a mission with premades, I can assume they will be good enough that I do not have to babysit them.

For example, I quite literally just ran into Gale and Vic in pubs.

[fleet zealot]

no it doesn't

[grizzled aspen]

Gale and Vic, I do not have to worry about, because they are good players.

[vocal olive]

I should hope a premade is a cut above randomly queued folks

[fleet zealot]

it gimps a lot of melee loadouts because they are built around enemies funneling in

[grizzled aspen]

The random, we did have to worry about, because he woke a fucking daemonhost.

[polar nexus]

Chorus is best used when diving to stop a wall of ranged elites. Don't just use it and stay immobile lol

[fleet zealot]

support is in a very niche spot in DT which is where it should be

[lament blaze]

Not dying when 30 things are on you is a much harder task than to spam heavy attacks on heads with dueling sword when enemies are stunned.

I trust my team to perform the latter when I chorus.

[fleet zealot]

Support should not be a playstyle or a build path

[grizzled aspen]

...

I'm not gonna argue with you until I'm blue in the face.

You're wrong, moving on.

[lament blaze]

Poggers argument

[grizzled aspen]

Isn't it, though?

[fleet zealot]

you know what else causes teammates to take less damage

dead enemies

[grizzled aspen]

I have so many better things to do than argue with someone that is willfully ignorant.

[modern lintel]

boggles the mind

[wise wigeon]

Stun = fun tho

[fleet zealot]

stun nade is just on a bad path for 99% of builds

everyone paths to throwing knives, or immo nades for some havoc builds

it's a fine nade but it doesn't lock you out of doing anything for using it, and I think it's the best aoe CC in the game?

[modern lintel]

nade restocks are best left for ogryn nukes and vet shredders anyway

[fleet zealot]

yee

that too

[polar nexus]

Also your chorus is like smite. It's fucking with reciprocity, duellist and every talent or blessings relying on dodges

[fleet zealot]

zealot has no nade prio with stuns

[fleet zealot]

yep

and just, the melee funnel in mechanic

[grizzled aspen]

Personally, I wouldn't engage with him anymore.

He either doesnt care and will run chorus anyway or he is ragebaiting.

[fleet zealot]

oh yay i like stepping 5yds out of posisition cause the enemies aren't getting close

[lament blaze]

I absolutely will continue to take chorus in every havoc > 30 i play, following the recommendations of very skilled players.

[sullen forge]

@grizzled aspen Idk if you even use Agri 9 anymore but I had Vic test this a few days ago on Psyker to way better results than veteran

but this is the Bread And Butter

perk combo

[grizzled aspen]

For like a scriers gaze soyker?

[sullen forge]

Yeah

I use it on my Vet build

works like a charm also

SG Soyker works with it

[grizzled aspen]

Interesting.

[sullen forge]

Not sure if Zealot would get huge value out of it

[polar nexus]

If you take chorus go fucking dive to stop the range elite. Or just ledge a boss if you can. It's way more useful that stopping a every packs that gonna be destroy because bolter, relic, recon, trauma, purga, DS and nades

[sullen forge]

but it doesn't hurt to see

[hushed knoll]

Hi Keet

Daily reminder that you are cool