im not using smite
#zealot-class
spare talon
atomic fjord
Nothing I’m doing the kill all psykers meme
hexed igloo
Objectively worst type of helmet
atomic fjord
Don’t take me seriously
spare talon
Nothing I’m doing the kill all psykers meme
kill all smykers
hexed igloo
There's a kill all psykers meme?
atomic fjord
Objectively worst type of helmet
I’m gonna touch you
modern lintel
im not using smite
deceiver
hexed igloo
I’m gonna touch you
I have some choice words about that helm that will have me removed promptly from the server
Worst helm I've ever seen 💀
hexed igloo
Comical breastplate too that thing is redirecting every thrust into those soft spots lmao
I love when my armor guides a rapier directly into the soft spot between my collarbones
And/or armpits
vestal portal
I have some choice words about that helm that will have me removed promptly from...
No balls?
copper hawk
Worst helm I've ever seen 💀
It's a frogmouth
It's only supposed to be used when jousting
atomic fjord
It’s not meant to take a rapier
hexed igloo
It's only supposed to be used when jousting
Yeah looks like shit
atomic fjord
That’s half of my plate my main plate I don’t wear walking around
hexed igloo
Hounskull >
atomic fjord
Skill issue get better armor
Do you have 8k?
vestal portal
Nah, get a better body.
hexed igloo
Do some walking outside the armor sometime
vestal portal
Your corp is your limitation.
atomic fjord
hexed igloo
Do you have 8k?
Yeah, you should get ur money up tbh
vestal portal
The weakness of the flesh.
atomic fjord
Your corp is your limitation.
I agree lowkey been trying to build a new form out of dead bodies from arbies
Bro is clearly just trying to rage bait moving on
hexed igloo
I didn't realize you were so poor tbh, I try not to associate with your type
vestal portal
Don't blame the armour.
vestal portal
Need to mix modern and antiquity, makes armour out of ballistic epoxy fibreglass.
modern lintel
median steeple
misty nova
Need to mix modern and antiquity, makes armour out of ballistic epoxy fibreglass...
Me when my kevlar steel alloy plate armor
Idk
sullen forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1329674552615243867/G...
Jester that tweaks the fuck out
median steeple
God I want to use the kants but they feel so bad to use
misty nova
God I want to use the kants but they feel so bad to use
Vet
plucky gate
are there seriously m1 ds4 macro users in my game
what
grizzled aspen
Until they fix hitreg kants are just miserable to use
That's not a hitreg issue.
Ilas does less damage the closer you are to your target.
Go in the psykhanium and check it if you don't believe me.
median steeple
frog.......
I was 2ft in front of him
I KNOW ABOUT THE BUG
I only got 3 hitmarkers
out of 6 shots
all hitting him in the face
grizzled aspen
I may be a teesny bit medicated.
grizzled aspen
I SKIN YOU
median steeple
evil ahh cica
modern lintel
frog bad take part 97
grizzled aspen
frog bad take part 97
It's not even a bad take I just haven't slept well for the last two days so between that and medication I am more than a little fucked up atm.
Autocorrect is carrying my ass in spelling rn.
grizzled aspen
I'm going to astrally project into your dreams so I can judge you from afar.
modern lintel
i will simply dream a mirror
hexed igloo
It's not even a bad take I just haven't slept well for the last two days so betw...
Fifth of vodka + bed perchance
Unless it interacts with your meds I don't recommend that
lament blaze
Fifth of vodka + bed perchance
dare me to drive?
lament blaze
So true bestie. On vodka you're too busy clubbing and scaring away the hoes
grizzled aspen
Unless it interacts with your meds I don't recommend that
The meds are just antibiotics that make me eepy.
hexed igloo
Yeah don't drink on anything that makes you sleepy
neat grove
Need to mix modern and antiquity, makes armour out of ballistic epoxy fibreglass...
im gonna be doing something like that
neat grove
like i think if one can layer steel plating with ballistic materials, i think legit bullet proof armor can be a thing
hexed igloo
I fucking hate chill guy I think it's one of the worst memes ever conceived
He deserves this
neat grove
I fucking hate chill guy I think it's one of the worst memes ever conceived
those who know
insert shitty phonk music
spare talon
those who know
toes who nose
hexed igloo
Thoes who nose 🔥💀💀🔥💀💯💯💀
neat grove
toes who nose
stab plague ogryns in their toes
hexed igloo
I think we should also put that in the Machine™️
neat grove
you can try but i dont recommend
neat grove
I'll put your balls in the machine
hexed igloo
Bros scared of it 💀
neat grove
sir this is a darktide discord
modern lintel
the omnessiah wills it
neat grove
we're supposed to be discussing the tidal waves in the dark of night
hexed igloo
the omnessiah wills it
Slap a purity seal on it
neat grove
the omnessiah wills it
love me emprah simple as
hexed igloo
sir this is a darktide discord
Sir this is #zealot-class
neat grove
Sir this is <#1046913589614747719>
zealot is just a small ogryn that cant bulk
hexed igloo
You're just a small man that can't bulk
neat grove
do we have a problem?
hexed igloo
Iunno do we?
neat grove
youre the one being aggro to me man im just chatting
unrelated how do backstabs work?
hexed igloo
Nah I just be doin
hexed igloo
unrelated how do backstabs work?
Stab in back?
neat grove
i only know souls backstabs
and that has entire animation etc
but how do darktide backstabs work?
hexed igloo
Iunno I haven't played the game in months
hearty nebula
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1329674552615243867/G...
we love petrisca in this household
median steeple
I'm quite fond of the silly jester
neat grove
Iunno I haven't played the game in months
median steeple
I'm here to watch their growth
hexed igloo
https://tenor.com/view/villainous-villanos-blackhat-gif-14838442
Blawg thinks I have skin in the game 💀
neat grove
Blawg thinks I have skin in the game 💀
my nana says that
hearty nebula
they're so epic
hexed igloo
my nana says that
I'll slap your grandma's bingo wings
I bet they hang like 4-5 inches
neat grove
I'll slap your grandma's bingo wings
you will suffer 10,000 deaths for 1000 lifetimes if you touch a single hair on her head
hexed igloo
Good thing I wasn't touching her hair
grizzled aspen
but how do darktide backstabs work?
A 120 degree angle behind the enemy, dictated by what direction they are facing, is considered a backstab if you are standing in said angle.
I believe enemies with guns have jankier backstab rulings but this is what I was told.
modern lintel
@hearty nebula @median steeple
frozen kernel
they're so epic
Me at first: 
Me at 0:18 
median steeple
<@403027645941678081> <@508465754832633896>
this is peak
modern lintel
vestal portal
im gonna be doing something like that
It is an actual thing.
frozen kernel
I fucking hate chill guy I think it's one of the worst memes ever conceived
Wow that’s some deep lore
modern lintel
me when i drop the stick of despair and agony
neat grove
You'd probably see the CDR on backstab icon or something
theres an icon?
median steeple
God the new modifier+sniper purge is so ass
hearty nebula
vestal portal
If the enemy dies faster, then you know that the back stab works.
neat grove
If the enemy dies faster, then you know that the back stab works.
everything already dies in like 3-4 swings tho
vestal portal
Seriously though, back stab is just normal attacks to the back.
lament blaze
Seriously though, back stab is just normal attacks to the back.
A backstab... it's like.. a stab to the front but... not the front... the back
vestal portal
I know right!?
neat grove
except those dudes with metal pill on their heads
lament blaze
"Ranged backstab attacks" is a phrase that deserves to be thrown into the lake of fire from revelation though
acoustic dune
"Ranged backstab attacks" is a phrase that deserves to be thrown into the lake o...
ok hear me out
what if backstab count both melee and rane
vestal portal
The bucket head still eats extra damage from back stab
acoustic dune
in the same perk
spare talon
lament blaze
the perk should 100% include melee backstab attacks
acoustic dune
agreed
raven tusk
Rq what was the dump stat on the Relic Blade?
copper hawk
winged aspen
I LOVE FUN 🗣️‼️‼️
opal star
The funny thing is
I’ve been actually losing a lot more often with book than with fury
vague depot
Book is mostly used in havoc because you almost need the gold toughness and extended cc it brings to deal with the absolute demons called any enemy that is holding a ranged weapon
But in every other game mode they are just bums that do 5 toughness damage so book isn’t as useful there
naive stirrup
i feel like im weird
relic sword has been nothing but hell to use for me
force greatsword has been nothing but fun
frozen kernel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1329696525319671818/ca...
Here you go, JIIIIV
copper hawk
maiden forge
Play to win: Book
Play for fun: Fury
Book is fun too tho I see gold toughness it make game fun
I take longer to die by ten bazillion hits or one sniper shot
twin wagon
Book is boring
spare talon
book is the antithesis of fun
you press your ability button to stop playing the game for a short while
twin wagon
I rather run hsword and be filtered by people thinking true survivor is decoration to play 30+ (because chargelot hsword is fun)
than a single other book run
hearty nebula
you press your ability button to stop playing the game for a short while
VoC is still better as a dedicated "oh shit" button while still being less disruptive to the overall gameplay flow
lol
mostly because it's an instant cc
no pussyfooting
copper hawk
hearty nebula
hearty nebula
fatshark just give me a fist weapon on zealot already....
hearty nebula
:D
gleaming kelp
Would it be op to still have the aura wavess but no relic in hand to free up your melee?
median steeple
it resets in 5 so hurry
copper hawk
i saved it
gleaming kelp
Just shouting emperor prayers louder than usual
frosty herald
Look at my perfect form
frosty herald
Its perfect
copper hawk
literally two matches ago
hearty nebula
it resets in 5 so hurry
IM LAUNCHING!!!!!!
frosty herald
copper hawk
crashed out when i got hit by a bulwark swing i thought i dodged
cuz when i got revived i took a hit that took my tness
crashed the flip oute..
copper hawk
I AM SO ASS AT THIS GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/clown-pestrica-jester-fail-gif-1505202859586570470
When i drop the stick of eternal dispair and sadness
hearty nebula
glorps u
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/laimu-limealicious-vtuber-gif-4126816099265923449
Norf oak
lament blaze
<@225460423598538763>
lament blaze
why thank you sir
ty for allowing me to achieve climax with your statement
narrative climax naturally
twin wagon
Bark emote
sus
Zealors
Theres someone giving true survivor titled about
by having the party throw themselves off a cliff
And speedrunning the map
....
hearty nebula
^
plush estuary
Ye, but this way could lead to out of the game transactions
That was always a thing
I've personally been offered money for carries
tropic pelican
i like that duck music video
plush estuary
It doesn't stop people nor can fatshark do anything
reef flower
At which rank do you unlock thunder hammer?
turbid ocean
bolt pistol or revolver haha. i seem to prefer bolt pistol...
twin wagon
That was always a thing
That is against tos hard
They can just make deaths count
Removes one of the easier monetizeable methods
frosty herald
That is against tos hard
hearty nebula
That is against tos hard
yeah and people do it in like
literally every online game
ever
boosting has been a thing since the days of ultima online probably
frosty herald
For 150 bucks i would carry someone through 50 havocs
reef flower
bolt pistol or revolver haha. i seem to prefer bolt pistol...
Bolt gun
hearty nebula
bolt, made of gun
reef flower
Gun, made of bolt?
copper hawk
frosty herald
ornate bone
twin wagon
literally every online game
Other games don't have a policy against it
Others do heavily, like warframe
hearty nebula
warframe only bans boosting in the sense of just like
selling accounts/rmt between players
or using an exploit/cheating
cause then you taking your noob friend to hydron etc and leveling them could technically count as boosting and like
70% of the playerbase would be banned
but strictly speaking
most online games do have rules against boosting
like
every fucking mmorpg ever does
it's just that they don't actually enforce it because it's a "don't show don't tell" situation
there's no reason for them to go out of their way to ban people for boosting if they're still getting their money at the end of the day
frozen kernel
70% of the playerbase would be banned
Yeah most of Warframe's "new player experience" when you have a friend who gave their life to the game is basically just following them while they walk through the level and everything dies
Bonus points if they're playing Nekros for more materials
vague depot
bolt pistol or revolver haha. i seem to prefer bolt pistol...
Bolt pistol is easier to use since it has some stagger, lethal prox for your grenades and a clip reload
Revolver gives up all of that in exchange for shitting out a crap ton of damage and murdering anything that isn’t a boss in 1-3 headshots
Pretty sure the only thing that takes more than one headshot are ogyrn enemies
vague depot
Yeah most of Warframe's "new player experience" when you have a friend who gave ...
I just wandered around and did whatever felt interesting as a newbie until a group of mr18-20 people picked me up and offered to help
But they didn’t really do shit besides play void survival for a hour and then spent the rest of the time yapping about how they were a casual tryhard since they had 1000+ hours and i was a sweat for getting to mr25 in 100 hours
frozen kernel
Grinding mastery used to be a soul sucking and pitifully boring experience
I haven't touched Warframe in so long but I respect that it ventured out and tried a lot of stuffs
jagged cradle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156481621994770513/1329296497736421397/s...
Lmfao
vague depot
Grinding mastery used to be a soul sucking and pitifully boring experience
In the beginning I just liked using new stuff
And then when I got bored it was like level 20 or something so I decided to just get it to 30 now
And I would repeat that process until I hit mr27 or something then I burnt out
faint prairie
gamin
remote lark
banx wyd
twin wagon
warframe only bans boosting in the sense of just like
Also bans you for paying for certain mats with real money
Like I may or may not have leading to my 10 year ban
that ends in 2 years
neat grove
Also bans you for paying for certain mats with real money
well yeah they dont want their economy to be messed up
twin wagon
Then they'd stop clans from market manipulation like WoW does
Nah, they just don't like people "cheating" them out of their revenue
neat grove
i was about to say they probably want the money themselves
twin wagon
Blizzard banning all 6 people for manipulating the entire alliance market into not having dreamweave bags
neat grove
the gold selling mafia is much worse
frozen kernel
werent you tryna fix your sleep schedule 😭
Yeah but I'm so much fun to play with 
frosty herald
Honse
tawdry leaf
Yeah but I'm so much fun to play with <a:AcridGroovin:831908088281825410>
well if yall are gonna play hmu because im bored asf 😭
neat grove
didnt they masssively mess up enchantress?
tawdry leaf
I need to watch suicide squad again
i recently embraced my inner weeb and started watching gate and opm
frozen kernel
didnt they masssively mess up enchantress?
frozen kernel
i recently embraced my inner weeb and started watching gate and opm
(I am familiar with neither of these)
So I'm clearing out my clips on steam since they've rolled out their background recording
neat grove
https://tenor.com/view/what%27s-this-barn-owl-robert-e-fuller-what%27s-here-this...
the villian of suicide squad the witch
who for some reason says will smith doesnt have the balls
a centuries old witch
frozen kernel
oh yeah there were two huh
never saw the first one
had no idea what you were talking about lol
copper hawk
tawdry leaf
(I am familiar with neither of these)
understandable for gate but you have to know what one punch man is 😭
ornate bone
I'm so sick of the cold, guys
I'm going to grow wings and fly in the south now for every winter
How do animals even do this, seriously
I live in a house with heating
You telling me there's foxes and deer and stuff in the forest RIGHT NOW? The grass is frozen!!! And that's the least of their problems!!!
cinder roost
https://tenor.com/view/rosie-ブーケ-animal-crossing-animalcrossing-pocket-camp-gif-12680674693863060396
neat grove
How do animals even do this, seriously
its called hibernating
they get fat and sleep through it
or they go into a little den and just chill
acoustic dune
Ey ey zealot
acoustic dune
I peeled me skin off agai
neat grove
I peeled me skin off agai
you also do that?
acoustic dune
you also do that?
There's no joke I actually peeled me skin
I should stop sleeping with the laptop in my arm
I keep giving myself burn
tame mirage
@zinc talon do you play in OCE?
sturdy cypress
or they go into a little den and just chill
Animals also dont have to pay taxes so here we are
jovial cosmos
You guys pay taxes?
hallow oxide
I wish the crusher weapon had marks to choose between
misty nova
Sure, why not
neat grove
There's no joke I actually peeled me skin
i wasnt making a joke either
neat grove
Animals also dont have to pay taxes so here we are
i mean if youre poor enough neither do you
pro tip, if you make too little money the irs just doesnt bother you about taxes
placid fiber
i wasnt making a joke either
ah the age old tradition of peeling your skin >.>
hallow oxide
I wish the crusher weapon had marks to choose between
To further elaborate on this, could change the weapon model and the move set between the different marks and change the damage values of the light and heavy attacks
Just to give crusher some more options
ornate bone
City kid energy sm my head h
ornate bone
some just freeze to death
Yeah i've been wondering how birds survive some storms we get too
Turns out they don't, lol
placid fiber
Was gonna say >.>'
ornate bone
Aint that just something. Alright time for a cup of cocoa
placid fiber
acoustic dune
i wasnt making a joke either
omg skinless freak bestie
misty nova
Furetto
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/furetto-ferret-chat-chat-morta-dead-chat-gif-20967081
@fleet zealot Look! It's furetto!
Which probably isn't a burrito
grand tangle
It's a type of noodle I think
placid fiber
ah, like ramen?
stone fern
how do we feel about the various ogryn threads on the forum?
theres like 3+ active threads asking for buffs
grand tangle
Only buff ogryn needs is no moves peed penalties while heavy attacking
stone fern
yeah i agree but also changes to a lot of the weapons
i feel like ogryn has 2 ranged weapons and 2 melee weapons
keystones are also kinda ass
undone pewter
how do we feel about the various ogryn threads on the forum?
They should take a weapon away as punishment
placid fiber
fatshark sees this and removes the relic blade
stone fern
blitz swapping doesnt even work correctly on the slower weapons 😭
grand tangle
Fatshark sees this and removed dueling sword from zealot
misty nova
how do we feel about the various ogryn threads on the forum?
Feel good
I loooove playing Ogryn
But damn
stone fern
tbh i think the upgrades for fnp and heavy hitter should be made default parts of the keystone/class and they should be given different upgrade
"10% attack speed on max stacks and only max stacks"
bro
that has 100% uptime on psyker and zealot
pls
heresy it is then............
misty nova
At the same time buff shovel standard punch
I tried going punch only (it sucks)
Thunderous Skullcrusher were the best bet
But the punch doesn't seem to be considered as heavy attack
So no HH
Or other heavy related buffs
Next up
Brunt's Pride Punch
Although it'll only come after a slap
And you know
Because I'll slap first I could use No Guts No Glory
Except it doesn't seem to be working like the description
Because it follows cohe rules
stone fern
So no HH
heavy hitter is worse than a zealot talent and im sick of pretending otherwise
violet hornet
Did one of these yesterday and ended up killing three plogryn and three dh with the thammer
stone fern
Did one of these yesterday and ended up killing three plogryn and three dh with ...
real
im thammering there too
violet hornet
Hilarious seeing the terror in the team when I charge the first DH vs having them charge in before me for the 3rd cuz they know I'm gonna bonk it
merry fern
read my build 😄
I prefer to be able to keep the entire horde on its' knees
this is not a dps brainrot zealot
hard nexus
Next up
Brunt's Pride Punch
kickback/rumbler special only
misty nova
I prefer to be able to keep the entire horde on its' knees
If that's what you want then get Skullcrusher
hard nexus
what’s the special on the twin linked again
misty nova
It'll help the team
hard nexus
i forgor
misty nova
Same as rumbler
hard nexus
ah
ornate bone
oh wait there´s different marks for the dueling sword? lol
merry fern
If that's what you want then get Skullcrusher
but I dont deal much dmg tho, wouldnt thunderous help more?
merry fern
If that's what you want then get Skullcrusher
but thanks, I will test
hard nexus
ok which one is the META CORRECT one?
ds4 is best
ds2 second best
ds5 is funny dodge meme
ornate bone
ds4 is best
oh. alright then, had that apparently the entire time thanks to my holy intuition
ornate bone
i hate ds4
don´t worry, it doesn´t help scrubs like me to get beyond havoc 22 anyway
hard nexus
hrm yes let me deal more damage than a thunder hammer with absolutely zero downsides of the thunder hammer
balance !
violet hornet
"we gave it two stamina bars, it's balanced" -
misty nova
ok which one is the META CORRECT one?
Meta is 4
The best is the 2
violet hornet
The overhead heavies on the 5 have nice reach on them
neat grove
Deer do not hibernate
this foo believes deer are real? pfff everyone knows their gov drones
violet hornet
I have heard 2 has better horde clear lights and you can avoid the awkward h2 by looping h1 + special
neat grove
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572580127100239911/1329571996324855880/RD...
the CIA actually tried to turn csts into spying devices
they would implant these recording devices into the cats head that could pick up people talking from not too far away
ornate bone
Meta is 4
The best is the 2
what makes 2 so much better if 4 is meta then ?_?
neat grove
the problem was like how do you make a cat do something? and not chase a mouse into the street ya know?
misty nova
I have heard 2 has better horde clear lights and you can avoid the awkward h2 by...
It's quite literally the mk4 but better at hordes
misty nova
what makes 2 so much better if 4 is meta then ?_?
It's quite literally the mk4 but better at hordes
neat grove
so nice he said it twice
hard nexus
what makes 2 so much better if 4 is meta then ?_?
more fun to use ds2
violet hornet
4 is mostly meta because it's braindead easy to use lol
hard nexus
h2 is a sweep that isn’t terrible
neat grove
or she i dont wanna discriminate or whatever
hard nexus
and lights are better
violet hornet
Literally a faster caxe with more reach
ornate bone
4 is mostly meta because it's braindead easy to use lol
alright that´s enough argument for me
misty nova
There's always someone with better horde clear on your team anyways
hard nexus
There's always someone with better horde clear on your team anyways
wrong me and my mk3 evis are always the best horde clear
violet hornet
Lights for horde, heavy for single targets is about as easy as a weapon gets
Especially when it's fast and mobile
neat grove
just activate my sword and just reduce everything to limbs and pieces
violet hornet
Mk3 evi PA light spam my beloved
misty nova
wrong me and my mk3 evis are always the best horde clear
You're still the only mk3 user in this side of the imperium
neat grove
i wish the devs hadnt capped skill points at 30
misty nova
🫡
ornate bone
just activate my sword and just reduce everything to limbs and pieces
that´s honestly so cool. i wish i could still use my chainsword to good effect.
neat grove
its so rough actually trying to make a good martyrdom build
hard nexus
i wish the devs hadnt capped skill points at 30
any more and the power levels would’ve been even more fucked
hard nexus
Mk3 evi PA light spam my beloved
wrong, heavy light light push attack light light repeat
my beloved
neat grove
any more and the power levels would’ve been even more fucked
dont care i want my build to exactly what im intending and not bastardized abomination
violet hornet
Has anyone quantified what the exact advantages are of an activated relic blade vs an inactive one are? It definitely seems better vs armor but the performance vs unarmored seems nearly the same from my experience
violet hornet
wrong, heavy light light push attack light light repeat
Weird combo but I might have to try it out
neat grove
Has anyone quantified what the exact advantages are of an activated relic blade ...
activated has enormous amounts of cleave and damage
hard nexus
Has anyone quantified what the exact advantages are of an activated relic blade ...
ADMs get buffed, damage gets pretty significantly buffed, massive cleave buff
naive stirrup
load into a brute conscript
3 zealots with hammers
oh yeah, they're ass
neat grove
its take 4-5 swings to decapitate a crusher, half of what it takes unactivated
violet hornet
I'm asking if someone has a real quantification of that value
neat grove
the high intensity specialist guantlet with the brute thing is total bullshit
misty nova
Idk ask Lumi or something
neat grove
i dont like sweating my balls off just trying to survive
hard nexus
the high intensity specialist guantlet with the brute thing is total bullshit
just bring a crusher
violet hornet
Playing various havoc levels doesn't exactly make it easy to tell where the differences in breakpoints are unfortunately
hard nexus
makes it significantly easier
neat grove
just bring a crusher
no the relic blade is what i will use
violet hornet
Yeah I was thinking crusher would work well for it
hard nexus
no the relic blade is what i will use
then suffer
neat grove
then suffer
and i do gladly and willingly for the Emperor
violet hornet
RB served me alright on it until my team wiped and I had a plogryn and 8 bulwarks on me
hard nexus
yeah
violet hornet
Ended up running thammer + anti armor flamer and that worked well enough
neat grove
RB served me alright on it until my team wiped and I had a plogryn and 8 bulwark...
big bolter
all thats needed
and reload speed buff
violet hornet
You gonna bolter down 8 bulwarks? Good luck
neat grove
You gonna bolter down 8 bulwarks? Good luck
ive done it
and got several crusher in their as bonus
violet hornet
It's not a reliable way to kill them quickly
fast iron
bolter but every patch it's size is increased 10%
hard nexus
You gonna bolter down 8 bulwarks? Good luck
wait til attack, dump 3-4 shots, let the bleed kill them
repeat
neat grove
It's not a reliable way to kill them quickly
with brittleness and bleed stacked yeah it is
violet hornet
It worked much better before they reworked how bulwarks get staggered
neat grove
just mag dump and spray it works 90% of the time
vast basin
Tbh I didn't really notice an increase in normal ogryn spawns, just plague ogryns
violet hornet
wait til attack, dump 3-4 shots, let the bleed kill them
This would work if they weren't clipping through each other lol
hard nexus
This would work if they weren't clipping through each other lol
aim better
violet hornet
With that many of them there's always at least one shield up
hard nexus
neat grove
Tbh I didn't really notice an increase in normal ogryn spawns, just plague ogryn...
i love fighting them
violet hornet
Skill issue
neat grove
its so fun to 1v1 a plague ogryn
hard nexus
bulwarks exist as a fuck you to zealot
every other class has easy options to deal with them
neat grove
i still mount their skulls on my wall
violet hornet
Yeah that's why I brought a flamer lmao
hard nexus
yeah
neat grove
das flamen werfer it werfs flamens
violet hornet
Stun grenades, immo, or the chorus would have worked out okay but I didn't have that shit on
hard nexus
or blitz really (no grenade regen)
neat grove
i hate that chorus is almost mandatory for higher difficulties
hard nexus
havoc difficulties?
vast basin
DS is pretty good at handling bulwarks
hard nexus
it kinda is but
violet hornet
It's only really mandatory for saving your teammates lol
hard nexus
i’ve done plenty well without it
neat grove
yeah i dont like that
misty nova
Tbh I didn't really notice an increase in normal ogryn spawns, just plague ogryn...
The game will send ogryn waves
violet hornet
If you don't mind then dying you don't need it
neat grove
a singular play style or build should not be the standard
misty nova
It uses the same sniper spawn stinger
hard nexus
yeah i dont like that
havoc is meant to be extremely hard, and it gave value to bubble and chorus
vast basin
The game will send ogryn waves
Really? I tried soloed one earlier and got no ogryn waves
neat grove
it should have enough variance and variety you can go in with anything and as long as you play well you will be fine
neat grove
havoc is meant to be extremely hard, and it gave value to bubble and chorus
no it demands those
hard nexus
not like it’s gonna be changed
neat grove
i know but the more these things are talked about the more its brought to light
hard nexus
no it demands those
i’ve done h40 with a chastise mk3 evis and i was barely by my team/in a bubble
violet hornet
Eh I've done 40 without a bubble
hard nexus
it’s plenty doable
misty nova
Really? I tried soloed one earlier and got no ogryn waves
Yeah
That's weird
violet hornet
You just have to be very proactive about killing shooters
neat grove
i’ve done h40 with a chastise mk3 evis and i was barely by my team/in a bubble
good for you, i die in stupid ways seperated from my team
hard nexus
yarp
hard nexus
good for you, i die in stupid ways seperated from my team
it’s just positioning at that point
neat grove
it’s just positioning at that point
why do you think i want to build my zealot to be immortal?
hard nexus
second wind and enduring faith
vast basin
Yeah
That's weird
Yeah... Max I saw was like 3 bulwarks at a time
neat grove
so i can stand as the mountain they break themselves against
neat grove
i dont think im gonna do h40 honestly
neat grove
h25 is already dreadful on my hands
hard nexus
h25 is already dreadful on my hands
fair
h40 isn’t fun 2 me
i prefer aurics
like yah it’s difficult and the challenge can be fun in a “i did it!” kind of way
neat grove
i dont like needing to soak my hands in epsom salt and warm water for 30 minutes after 1 match
hard nexus
but overall i just don’t care that much for h40
hard nexus
i dont like needing to soak my hands in epsom salt and warm water for 30 minutes...
gods weakest knife user
or las pistol
neat grove
stupid punishingly difficult is not fun
vestal portal
H40 is not that fun anymore once you play it a few times. It doesn't allow much of build variety.
hard nexus
H40 is not that fun anymore once you play it a few times. It doesn't allow much ...
it does
neat grove
gods weakest knife user
i mean ive literally worked with my hands for over 20 years atp so maybe
vestal portal
Bad timing, My bad.
hard nexus
H40 is not that fun anymore once you play it a few times. It doesn't allow much ...
but i also agree
neat grove
if ur good enough (like absurdly good) to handle it
okay but average player is not like that
drowsy steppe
yes
hard nexus
okay but average player is not like that
yah ik
drowsy steppe
you are kinda pigeonholed to run the meta builds
spare dome
average player is struggling at H24 let alonr 40
drowsy steppe
dont @ me with that 'but you dont need to'
neat grove
and content in games should never be catered to the small percentile that asks for it
hard nexus
id rather the difficulty be more dense hordes, less ogryn spam
drowsy steppe
you dont need to when you are playing with friends or players you trust
hard nexus
and less pus hardened (that’s stupid)
drowsy steppe
the pub experience speaks otherwise
neat grove
you dont need to when you are playing with friends or players you trust
some people arent that lucky to have those play the game
hard nexus
average player is struggling at H24 let alonr 40
h40 is meant to be super duper auric maelstrom
it’s not meant to be accessible
delicate shadow
high havoc is not intended for the "average" player
vestal portal
90% of my havoc 40 runs are in pub.
delicate shadow
it's also not really intended for pubbing either tbh, though people do succeed with it
hard nexus
it’s not meant to be accessible
people asked for more difficulty and they couldn’t revert nerfs because of powersword incident fear, so they just made it CBT
neat grove
thats certainly a way to run a game
delicate shadow
I mean, there's plenty of content on offer for those who aren't capable of high havoc
hard nexus
yarp
violet hornet
Pubs can handle 40 as long as they pay attention to team cohesion and don't stray or dive enemies
Some of the easiest havoc runs I've had were high havoc with good communication with pubs
fast iron
then ADHD autistic brain gets lost in the sauce
potent gate
you are kinda pigeonholed to run the meta builds
I disagree with this so much
fast iron
force greatsword is the worst for that it's like nothing else exists I am just cleaning through endless walls of meat as the warp speaks to me
potent gate
There's like. A basic requirement for havoc but it's not "run meta or bust"
vestal portal
After the 3rd week of Havoc, I just queue party finder, no voice whatsoever and run H40 weekly.
violet hornet
Most of the failed runs I have seen are when a team tried to rush instead of standing their ground on blight or when there's a massive horde of gunners ahead
spare dome
i have gunkerd my way through H40 already
hard nexus
Pubs can handle 40 as long as they pay attention to team cohesion and don't stra...
ehh, diving enemies can be a requirement with certain builds
spare dome
the real meta of havocs is map triggers and playing the AI director
potent gate
Pretty much
The more meta you play, the less you give a shit about triggers and positioning.
spare dome
basically anyone who hears a boss spawn and doesnt instantly fall back is disqualified
vestal portal
At some point, with good individual skill, a team can do H40 without much trouble even with no communication.
violet hornet
ehh, diving enemies can be a requirement with certain builds
You still need to be careful about engagement with those builds, you can't spend the entire game outside of cohesion ahead of the team like you can in a normal match
vestal portal
Still, not fun.
hard nexus
You still need to be careful about engagement with those builds, you can't spend...
i mean i do
potent gate
I'd rather play havoc than anything currently in the game
violet hornet
Obviously there's some knife perverts that can handle soloing a 40 but they're an outlier
potent gate
The only thing that is shit about it is the limited map variety
fast iron
basically anyone who hears a boss spawn and doesnt instantly fall back is disqua...
what about people who never push forward so they stay at one chokepoint for 45 minutes
hard nexus
brb
drowsy steppe
There's like. A basic requirement for havoc but it's not "run meta or bust"
oh Ive cleared H40 with fotf on pub lobbies
spare dome
what about people who never push forward so they stay at one chokepoint for 45 m...
thats just every bubble meta
i fucking hate bubble
potent gate
Bubble crutch
drowsy steppe
Ive done the rewards for players who completed H40s already
potent gate
Until death also crutch
violet hornet
yeah you have to fall back with like
Yeah this is the big reason you can't just push solo consistently
drowsy steppe
the real havoc 40 is playing auric maelstrom in a lobby where youre the one who has to carry
tidal berry
I disagree with this so much
Its more of a social requirement than a literal one
vestal portal
I did 4s vet H40, 4 zealots H40, 4 psykers H40, 2 ogryns H40.
tidal berry
but then again if the lobby demands you run book or bubble its not a worthwhile lobby to play in regardless
potent gate
Its more of a social requirement than a literal one
Alright, that's fair. I can agree with that.
tidal berry
you're not gonna have fun in there
vestal portal
All no com
neat grove
i kinda want Guilliman to extermatus this planet
tidal berry
havoc could do some slight balancing in some areas but as usual its a people problem
the MMO brainrot should not be allowed
neat grove
The people are the problem
i feel both parties are partially to blame for it
fast iron
even more important for bubble to push forward because you have less of a window to do so
potent gate
i feel both parties are partially to blame for it
Expand on that.
fast iron
literally you just have to figure out when you can push forward and aggressively use that
tidal berry
you do not want this to be a game where people have defined cookie-cutter roles, it would be identity death for tide games
well, maybe not for vermintide since their professions are a bit like that
but you get my point
neat grove
Expand on that.
i think the devs focused too hard in certain aspects of the difficulty with too much of a hands off approach, and the players are not actually ya know communicating or being considerate to their teammates
fleet zealot
normal wren
I think the difficulty makes it so people want as much wiggle room as possible
fleet zealot
well, maybe not for vermintide since their professions are a bit like that
tide games specialize towards something
normal wren
Because mistakes are so punished
normal wren
Most wiggle room translates to: bubble, book
hard nexus
boss spawns
but a chastise zealot shouldn’t really be with the team, they need to be in the gunner lines to stop the rest of the team from getting shot to death
fleet zealot
but that is a sacrifice to trade off for being absolutely melee beasts
neat grove
Because mistakes are so punished
well its geneally not fun to fail to revive anyone because 90 gunners keep spawning and shredding you
tidal berry
this is an all specs can be self sufficient kind of game and talent tree gives you freedom to larp as you please
spare dome
four dudes in a bubble isnt wiggle room thats turtling
fleet zealot
well its geneally not fun to fail to revive anyone because 90 gunners keep spawn...
it's their fault for going down near 0 cover
lol
fast iron
i think the devs focused too hard in certain aspects of the difficulty with too ...
skill issue
violet hornet
but a chastise zealot shouldn’t really be with the team, they need to be in the ...
This would work great if my team didn't instantly fold to melee elites/ horde when I walk away from them
neat grove
it's their fault for going down near 0 cover
im a souls veteran, you think saying that works?
hard nexus
This would work great if my team didn't instantly fold to melee elites/ horde wh...
that’s just pub experience in general
potent gate
i think the devs focused too hard in certain aspects of the difficulty with too ...
Well the question is, how can they improve the difficulty without causing issues
fleet zealot
im a souls veteran, you think saying that works?
yes
potent gate
Because that sounds like an impossible problem
neat grove
Well the question is, how can they improve the difficulty without causing issues
just remove emperors fading light
fast iron
darktide is the dark souls of horde shooters
neat grove
this is fucking tide in this shit
"oh this game is warhammer its not souls" pff lmfao
hard nexus
this is fucking tide in this shit
you ain’t built for these hive streets cuh, take yo ass back to arch dragon peak!!
fleet zealot
the mainline souls games don't even fucking have a pick up system
hard nexus
🗣️🗣️🗣️
fleet zealot
"oh this game is warhammer its not souls" pff lmfao
darktide is a horde shooter
my karker
neat grove
yeah they dont you die you die
potent gate
but a chastise zealot shouldn’t really be with the team, they need to be in the ...
Depends what they're providing tbh. Using chastise just for the cc can give purg/trauma users time to kill hordes and then give you time to deal with gunners etc
The answer always is "it depends"
fleet zealot
just remove emperors fading light
do you even know how much is loaded into that modifier xd
neat grove
but its also heavily punishing and very hands off in explaining the game
potent gate
Cop out cringe answer
hard nexus
The answer always is "it depends"
i mean yeah but a majority of the time your biggest threat will be gunners, whether through direct damage, or forcing worse positioning to avoid getting shot
fleet zealot
but its also heavily punishing and very hands off in explaining the game
cause the intended playstyle to learn the gamemode is to climb one rank at a time
potent gate
Then it would be way too easy
neat grove
cause the intended playstyle to learn the gamemode is to climb one rank at a tim...
kinda like souls one soul level at a time
hard nexus
cause the intended playstyle to learn the gamemode is to climb one rank at a tim...
booorriiiing i just went from 22 to 40
fleet zealot
it is not on the devs to force people to do this, because that just limits people who have the skill to level up
modern lintel
chastise goated 4 hav40
normal wren
i mean yeah but a majority of the time your biggest threat will be gunners, whet...
Shooters and reapers
More than gunners
neat grove
if you cannot see the similarities i cannot help you
normal wren
potent gate
i mean yeah but a majority of the time your biggest threat will be gunners, whet...
Is true. Just depends how far they are and how much natural cover is available really.
hard nexus
chastise goated 4 hav40
a good chastise player i think can give twice the value of a chorus player
fleet zealot
kinda like souls one soul level at a time
person who only played one genre of games plays 2nd genre of games
violet hornet
Every high havoc solo clutch I fail ends the same way, little shooters everywhere chip damaging me down while I kite + kill melee
hard nexus
Is true. Just depends how far they are and how much natural cover is available r...
yah
neat grove
person who only played one genre of games plays 2nd genre of games
actually ive played many genres
fleet zealot
congrats for expanding but jfc
hard nexus
person who only played one genre of games plays 2nd genre of games
LMFAO
normal wren
a good chastise player i think can give twice the value of a chorus player
Not for objective pushing
fleet zealot
stop being a soulsnerd no one likes it, even the people who like soulsgames here xd
potent gate
a good chastise player i think can give twice the value of a chorus player
One sec, I have a good pic for this xd
hard nexus
Every high havoc solo clutch I fail ends the same way, little shooters everywher...
if only i was there to kill thrm with chastise…
neat grove
stop being a soulsnerd no one likes it, even the people who like soulsgames here...
you think i care?
fleet zealot
this is reminding me of poker, one bad hand and i just lose the pot
hard nexus
you think i care?
now kiss
fleet zealot
you think i care?
yes
violet hornet
But that's mainly an issue on more open maps where you cannot find cover large enough to negotiate the melee horde while not being shot
normal wren
The reason for the bubble/book setup is to push objectives and deathball which chastise is not good at
modern lintel
a good chastise player i think can give twice the value of a chorus player
iv done hav40 w grey relic on controller granted team was stacked w good players but if i can on controller and console no mods on anyone no one should have any problems imo
violet hornet
if only i was there to kill thrm with chastise…
Yeah chastise or a more nimble ranged weapon are usually the right answer but typically I'm not running those on high havoc pubs
potent gate
normal wren
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
potent gate
Foft go BRR
neat grove
ted talks have really fallen off
fleet zealot
as a world of warcraft player, havoc is starting to feel a lot like mythic + where if we make one too many mistakes we wipe and our key degrades
spare dome
the reason for bubble/book is because it was the quickest and most braindead way to score your first H40 wins without really needing to acclimate to the difficulty
neat grove
as a world of warcraft player, havoc is starting to feel a lot like mythic + whe...
that is a good comparison and WoW is dying
fleet zealot
wow is dying cause blizz is a terrible company
spare dome
if youre still stuck doing bubble/book its because you arent trying anything else
fleet zealot
their M+ system is massively popular success
normal wren
that is a good comparison and WoW is dying
WoW has been dying for a decade tbf
neat grove
yeah and who did they cater the game to?
modern lintel
any gold toughness is just easy pressure release aswell as push momentum
fleet zealot
yeah and who did they cater the game to?
LFR andys
violet hornet
If I am in a havoc 40 pub lobby without chorus + beacon of purity they will ask for me to equip it
neat grove
oh right the top 1% raiders
fleet zealot
no LMAO
neat grove
yes
fleet zealot
blizz does not cater to mythic players LMAO
neat grove
destiny 2 had the same problem
fleet zealot
YOUR JORKING
spare dome
blizz caters to casuals
normal wren
if youre still stuck doing bubble/book its because you arent trying anything els...
I run shout 
cuz survivalist is the single handedly most impactful node in havoc
neat grove
no they cater too people who preorder
spare dome
do xstance its a lot of fun
fleet zealot
holy shit cycle of "it's cause the devs pander to the elite and not the dumbass masses" when they've pandered to the dumbass masses
modern lintel
oh right the top 1% raiders
me when the hard game mode requires you be good
fleet zealot
dumbass masses pre order
normal wren
do xstance its a lot of fun
Can't Im a zealot stuck in a veterans body
spare dome
me as Psyker frfr
fleet zealot
blizz doesn't even cater to the M raiding/M+ dungeons/High level arena, they just give recolors and maybe a single unique legendary
it's all catered the LFR/LFD experience
normal wren
But yeah shout saves you from one mistake
fleet zealot
aka quickplay
neat grove
me when the hard game mode requires you be good
i could be kinda mean right now but i dont want to be adversarial
potent gate
(it's not hard)
neat grove
yes and games arent hard
fleet zealot
i could be kinda mean right now but i dont want to be adversarial
your existance is adversarial to my brain cells
normal wren
WOW isnt hard, its just prereaserch
fleet zealot
then why cna't you beat havoc?
neat grove
your existance is adversarial to my brain cells
cry into your anime girl body pillow cause thats not my problem sir or maam
vestal portal
Most ways of making the game harder will get the same answer such as VoC, Chorus and Dome. You can try other ways to make game harder, but those 3 will always be the play in the current state of the game.
hushed knoll
then why cna't you beat havoc?
Cna’t
fleet zealot
WOW isnt hard, its just prereaserch
nah someitmes blizz just shits the bed and overtunes shit. There has been mythic raiding bosses that take 300 tries cause it's just so overtuned and overcomplicated
potent gate
Most ways of making the game harder will get the same answer such as VoC, Chorus...
Armour piercing incoming
neat grove
WOW isnt hard, its just prereaserch
imagine researching how to beat content in a game
fleet zealot
cry into your anime girl body pillow cause thats not my problem sir or maam
i'm a ferret
hard nexus
WoW has been dying for a decade tbf
i feel like it’s been dead for years
normal wren
imagine researching how to beat content in a game
My man this is what WoW is
fast iron
imagine researching how to beat content in a game
can't be zealots then they'd be good at the game /j
misty nova
Omg
Mustela Putorus furo
potent gate
imagine researching how to beat content in a game
FFXIV in SHAMBLES
misty nova
Or something
fleet zealot
wow is a bloated corpse floating on water
fast iron
ok NM thunder hammer zealots know their shit
hard nexus
me when the hard game mode requires you be good
LMFAO
violet hornet
Clutched an auric heresy match last night and some guy said "nice gaming autism" to me. Like how you gonna go to neurodivergence's house and be surprised when you see neurodivergence sitting there on the couch
neat grove
i never played past i think 12 the one with the girl with pink hair or whatever
fleet zealot
Clutched an auric heresy match last night and some guy said "nice gaming autism"...
AAHAHAHAHAH
potent gate
WoW at least ha the hardcore streamer attention rn which is pretty entertaining
modern lintel
imagine researching how to beat content in a game
me when i just used the exact same chastise build i would've used for auric into havoc only thing i changed was wrath instead of rampage on relic
neat grove
me when i just used the exact same chastise build i would've used for auric into...
cool youve played for how long now?
hard nexus
me when i just used the exact same chastise build i would've used for auric into...
my mk3 evis build is completely unchanged from auric to havoc
vestal portal
Doing it like Warframe where everything is trivial.
modern lintel
cool youve played for how long now?
900 hours give or take
hard nexus
cool youve played for how long now?
the hardest difficulty in the game isn’t meant to be easily accessible!!!! you’re a souls player!! you should understand that!!!
neat grove
900 hours give or take
yeah ive had the game for maybe a month
neat grove
the hardest difficulty in the game isn’t meant to be easily accessible!!!! you’r...
never said it was
violet hornet
AAHAHAHAHAH
Here's the clutch, hard to do while laughing my ass off after watching the vet get plogryn punted off the map https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1329661871464124427/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-01-16_10-53-19_PM.mp4?ex=678b279e&is=6789d61e&hm=95bc3a1a90a4ffa0e5ffefb0be03416f66ef8f8afcc9e58143efb1f7dcd27e96&
vestal portal
Warframe is a game with 0 challenge other than slot grinding.
hard nexus
yeah ive had the game for maybe a month
no wonder you can’t do high havocs, you don’t have the raw experience and time for that
that’s entirely fine
modern lintel
wah iv only played a month and i cant do the highest difficulty yet wtf
neat grove
no wonder you can’t do high havocs, you don’t have the raw experience and time f...
i also have carpel tunnel and arthritis lmfao
normal wren
I have 236 hours and have beaten havoc 40, so guess skill issue
fleet zealot
you know instead of trying to git gud and learn, you should complain about how the content should be nerfed
modern lintel
i didnt even touch auric for like probably 2 or 3 month after playing the game
neat grove
so intricate hand movements are my own difficulty tweak
fleet zealot
i also have carpel tunnel and arthritis lmfao
i'm legally blind and both my hands have had their bones shattered by a sliding door mechanism
quartz marsh
Here's the clutch, hard to do while laughing my ass off after watching the vet g...
i couldnt help but laugh at missing 2 knives on a pointblank trapper
potent gate
Chop your hand off
neat grove
i'm legally blind and both my hands have had their bones shattered by a sliding ...
so you play dance dance revolution game pad :O
violet hornet
i couldnt help but laugh at missing 2 knives on a pointblank trapper
Ssshhh we don't talk about that lmao
neat grove
i couldnt help but laugh at missing 2 knives on a pointblank trapper
ive done that
violet hornet
That was the slipperiest trapper in all of tertium
neat grove
and it results in being netted
hard nexus
i also have carpel tunnel and arthritis lmfao
unfortunately you’re on console, so you’re just SoL there
fleet zealot
console andy no less
hard nexus
but if you ever get the game on pc, there are a lot of accessibility mods
neat grove
unfortunately you’re on console, so you’re just SoL there
controller is much better than pc
fleet zealot
holy shit you really just did blow over from elden ring town
neat grove
indeed i did
hard nexus
stinky ring
fleet zealot
CONTROLLER BETTER THAN MKB
normal wren
so you play dance dance revolution game pad :O
Tried playing ds3 on guitar
Beat gundyr and decided it wasnt worth
neat grove
CONTROLLER BETTER THAN MKB
only in the aspect that my thumbs dont ever hurt
neat grove
thats the only reason
hard nexus
controller is much better than pc
if you mean for comfort using? fair, but for skill expression? MnK wins by a landslide
modern lintel
controller is much better than pc
i play on controller but bait used to be believable
neat grove
if you mean for comfort using? fair, but for skill expression? MnK wins by a lan...
yes thats what i meant lol
hard nexus
fair
fleet zealot
unless you got some gyro shit
violet hornet
There's no way to plug a controller into a PC, it shrimply cannot be done
neat grove
i play on controller but bait used to be believable
not bait just severe autism
fleet zealot
so you cna have PC precision with controller aim assist
fast iron
if you mean for comfort using? fair, but for skill expression? MnK wins by a lan...
apparently controller better on halo which is wild to me
neat grove
apparently controller better on halo which is wild to me
i mean halo was made for controller
fleet zealot
it was a big deal in the apex pro scene
modern lintel
so intricate hand movements are my own difficulty tweak
adaptive controller mayhaps old man
neat grove
adaptive controller mayhaps old man
HERESY
fleet zealot
apparently controller better on halo which is wild to me
i think a lot of it is just aim assist+ a proper controller and not the base default out of the box controllers
quartz marsh
if you mean for comfort using? fair, but for skill expression? MnK wins by a lan...
im getting reminded of Hollow Knight again
where people debate on which is better for it
violet hornet
My bro is learning the game on controller and has nearly 400 hours, just got the penance for dodging a mauler overhead for the first time last night
neat grove
days without pc people mentioning aim assist : 0
hard nexus
apparently controller better on halo which is wild to me
yah the game was built for controller
neat grove
My bro is learning the game on controller and has nearly 400 hours, just got the...
but thats so easy
violet hornet
but thats so easy
Not if you don't dodge apparently
quartz marsh
me spamming the dodge button
neat grove
Not if you don't dodge apparently
im a literal wall of a player, i dont move a lot but even i know when to dodge
fleet zealot
days without pc people mentioning aim assist : 0
i mean, for DT it sucks
violet hornet
I'm not sure he's played many other games where dodging is a mechanic
fleet zealot
but for like, a shooter like Apex
neat grove
i mean, for DT it sucks
i dont notice it at all
hard nexus
I'm not sure he's played many other games where dodging is a mechanic
to dying light!
fleet zealot
if you get a gyro controller so you can actually play properly
violet hornet
But I was still surprised lol
modern lintel
i mean, for DT it sucks
w out a controller w paddles it would be cbt
neat grove
I'm not sure he's played many other games where dodging is a mechanic
but even without dodging does not move away from damage?
fleet zealot
then slap on aim assist
quartz marsh
I'm not sure he's played many other games where dodging is a mechanic
the first game i played where dodging was a big mechanic is Remnant: From the Ashes
quartz marsh
which was 4 years ago now
neat grove
the first game i played where dodging was a big mechanic is Remnant: From the As...
goated game
bullshit secrets tho
fleet zealot
100 hours, controller player, doesn't understand how to dodge
quartz marsh
goated game
indeed
fleet zealot
fatshark NEEDS to make havoc 90% easier
fleet zealot
clever swan
fatshark just needs to add a bit more variety so we dont have only like 3 builds
maybe an alternative to fading light
neat grove
just take a little bit of pressure off the spine ya know?
fleet zealot
true not 90%
potent gate
fatshark NEEDS to make havoc 90% easier
Sedition havoc
fleet zealot
removing Dying light is 95% of the difficulty
hard nexus
fatshark NEEDS to make havoc 90% easier
havoc should only have the method of difficulty changed
but it should stay difficult
potent gate
Emperors charging light
spare dome
i mean thats really it and we know its coming eventually. more havoc modifiers
neat grove
removing Dying light is 95% of the difficulty
then thats poorly designed
fleet zealot
potent gate
You get +3000% toughness
modern lintel
no
hard nexus
then thats poorly designed
no, dying light is literally the method of increasing difficulty, it’s just lumped under one name
neat grove
You get +3000% toughness
you still get one shot tho by snipers
clever swan
it's fading light brothers
clever swan
🫃
neat grove
no, dying light is literally the method of increasing difficulty, it’s just lump...
dont agree with that method
fleet zealot
it's fading light brothers
true!
potent gate
you still get one shot tho by snipers
I don't even get 1 shot by snipers in havoc
neat grove
just glass the planet
spare dome
no, dying light is literally the method of increasing difficulty, it’s just lump...
errrr no?
potent gate
So
violet hornet
I thought they were talking about another game for a moment lmao
neat grove
its too far gone
spare dome
like there's that entire list of hidden modifiers
fleet zealot
like there's that entire list of hidden modifiers
yes and those would be under fading light no?
fleet zealot
hard nexus
like there's that entire list of hidden modifiers
isn’t that under fading light?
neat grove
neat grove
https://tenor.com/view/you%27re-gonna-die-here-smiling-friends-you%27re-going-to...
literally every npc is darktide
bronze hemlock
it's fading light brothers
fading lights is both the best and worst modifier
fleet zealot
minor mistake i'm jumping off a cliff
spare dome
the hidden mods are the base effect at every tier if there was nothing
neat grove
just like souls
spare dome
and then tack on the other ones
neat grove
feels like home
potent gate
Anyone who thinks havoc should be easier should be cut for population control
neat grove
in lordran being murked by skeletons