Unironically know a guy that quit smoking because he went from normal cigs to menthol cigs to putting a dab of vicks vapo rub on his tongue.
#zealot-class
grizzled aspen
Pretty sure you can eat it a bunch without dying.
grizzled aspen
Nope it says you should not eat it.
I suppose he got sick, literally, from it enough times that he stopped.
zinc talon
heh I wasn't endorsing it
tidal berry
petroleum jelly
so is it like.. dinosaur corpse starch?
zinc talon
actually!
in the 50s after the war, when canned food really got lawless
people were putting all sorts of goofy shit in gelatin
so the oil industry, being what it is, decided to market petroleum jelly as a foodstuff
as an alternative to gelatin
grizzled aspen
Symptoms of camphor poisoning (what happens when you eat vaporub)
upset stomach
nausea
vomiting
confusion
delirium
hallucinations
restlessness
seizures
respiratory depression (improper exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide)
zinc talon
whatever petrochemical PJ is chemically, it's food grade and safe to eat
and nothing can spoil it cuz nothing has evolved to eat it
so they thought, unlimited shelf life plus you can put shrimp and apples or whatever lawless dinner dishes people were making at the time
time to get people eating it regulalry
tidal berry
Symptoms of camphor poisoning (what happens when you eat vaporub)
>upset stomach...
sounds like it can give me a very good high
zinc talon
Symptoms of camphor poisoning (what happens when you eat vaporub)
>upset stomach...
ohhh so it's the camphor that's the problem
grizzled aspen
So yeah I guess that guy I know stopped because he was literally killing himself with vaporub.
zinc talon
that tracks
tidal berry
time to get people eating it regulalry
sounds like a US moment
zinc talon
tidal berry
oh these abominations
grizzled aspen
Warnings of vaporub include "do not put in or around nostrils."
I put that shit directly on my upper lip.
zinc talon
Prob enough to just taste menthol all day.
when I was in gross anatomy(name of the class not my impressions of it) lab for trimester 2 and 3 of my doctorate we were split into teams and given a cadaver to systematically dissect region by region limb by limb
and we used the same corpse the whole time, so 8 months cutting on the same body
towards the end those bodies even though they were perfectly preserved
got a lil uh
you can imagine
zinc talon
so we all took to putting a dab of vapo rub in the groove on our upper lip
then putting on a surgical mask
at first I loved the appeal of menthol every breath so much I did it outside of lab too
copper hawk
grizzled aspen
Menthol does smell good.
zinc talon
but then by the end my brain associated that vapo rub with cutting on a body that died more than half a year before
grizzled aspen
You pavlov'd yourself into hating the scent of menthol.
zinc talon
it took me half a decade to not start to gag up on the smell
copper hawk
its dedication,,,
tidal berry
I'm sorry they ruined menthol for you like that tbh
zinc talon
that and scrambled eggs, I couldn't eat those for a couple years after I graduated
(visceral fat like the stuff around your midsection looks very close if not identical to fresh made scrambled eggs)
grizzled aspen
I know!
:)
It's fun to have to self treat grievous injuries inflicted upon yourself until you can get proper medical attention.
(it was not fun)
zinc talon
what did you dooooo
median steeple
free $200 holy moly
grizzled aspen
I didn't.
copper hawk
grizzled aspen
I was in an accident and had sheet metal slash my gut.
hard nexus
free $200 holy moly
hand it over
median steeple
nope
median steeple
move here then you'll get it
copper hawk
Give it to me
zinc talon
oh dang, how deeply?
grizzled aspen
Thankfully it only hit fat and the topmost layer of muscle, no organs were damaged.
hard nexus
I was in an accident and had sheet metal slash my gut.
me personaly
copper hawk
Woa.. move in w him..
copper hawk
Meow maid arc..
grizzled aspen
i wouldnt let that slide
I didn't. It slid through me. :)
copper hawk
For 200 dollarydoos..
zinc talon
isn't it weird how you can take a deep laceration like that and it's not all just blood everywhere like the movies wqould have you believe
zinc talon
and also, it doesn't really hurt either
grizzled aspen
Funny thing, shock is a huge tool if you know how to use it correctly.
hard nexus
thats why i say dont block
frosty herald
No major vessels were hit
zinc talon
I mean it hurts but not like you expect
copper hawk
Then u cut a finger a lil deep and it looks like it got amputated
hard nexus
isn't it weird how you can take a deep laceration like that and it's not all jus...
yah
grizzled aspen
Managed to do first aid while I couldn't feel pain.
tidal berry
isn't it weird how you can take a deep laceration like that and it's not all jus...
I had a big cut like that trying to get a cat out of a fence pillar once that was covered in razor wire
zinc talon
hah exactly
hard nexus
massive cut, and it just is empty for a good 10 seconds
before it fills with blood
yeouuuch
zinc talon
I bet it was the cat and not the razor wire that did it to you
copper hawk
Deepest cut ive ever had was on my calf
grizzled aspen
And then about 15min later when EMTs got there I felt like I was dying.
tidal berry
it was just a cut on the upper hand but I was suprised by how easily and cleanly razor wire cut me open from a slight rub
copper hawk
Given 2 me by my mountain bike's gear thing
tidal berry
that I didn't even feel
copper hawk
The three big gear things
tidal berry
oh and the cat? It bounced off fine afterwards
zinc talon
fuckin psychopaths, when they get their dander up it's just claws seeming to exist in multiple places at the same moment
copper hawk
It almost got me dq'd from the army
Since i didnt lie when i said i didnt have any scars
grizzled aspen
it was just a cut on the upper hand but I was suprised by how easily and cleanly...
Me forgetting my fillet knife is in fact a fillet knife:
zinc talon
it was just a cut on the upper hand but I was suprised by how easily and cleanly...
that's the thing, the sharper the edge on the thing that cuts you the less it hurts and bleeds
copper hawk
My dad had 2 write a paper saying i didnt go to the hospital cuz it left a big ol ugly scar
grizzled aspen
Had to wear bandages across all four of my fingers on my right hand once because I was washing my fillet knife and wound up cutting down to the bone.
zinc talon
we would routinely nick ourselves with our surgical scalpels not even noticing because the blades had been sharpened to the point they would cleanly transcect nerves in your skin so the nerve itself never knew it'd been cut downstream
and then scream and panic wash the cut cuz corpse juice
grizzled aspen
And then the pain because wash...
copper hawk
Gory 2day in zeal chat..
zinc talon
ha won't it just
zinc talon
Had to wear bandages across all four of my fingers on my right hand once because...
oof I still full body shudder reading these kinda things cuz I caught myself with a dull knife
grizzled aspen
Ouch.
This is why I keep all my knives in my house sharp enough that you could shave with them.
hard nexus
yall ever see ur full tendon and veins out
zinc talon
I can still feel the uneven edge of that knife if I think about it
hard nexus
shit is scary
zinc talon
I felt every nanometer of movement
grizzled aspen
If youre gonna cut yourself like an idiot, better to do it with something sharp than something dull.
grizzled aspen
yall ever see ur full tendon and veins out
Broke my wrist once, yeah.
zinc talon
grizzled aspen
Could see tendons through the gash.
zinc talon
I haven't ever broken a bone, lucky in that respect
zinc talon
my skeleton will arise from my grave for the great necromancer war undamaged and pristine
grizzled aspen
Setting a broken bone was the worst pain I've ever felt.
Genuinely almost made me black out.
placid fiber
I broke my jaw when I was 10, when 4 double layers of sheetrock pinned me against an organ
zinc talon
was gonna say
grizzled aspen
My wrist is still crunchy to this day.
zinc talon
a lot of the reason docs don't sedate or anaesthetize you before they set a bone is because the pain is so great people usually just pass out anyway
grizzled aspen
Lemme guess, healthcare?
zinc talon
oh fun fact, bone doesn't have pain sensing nerves like the rest of the body
they listen for different things
grizzled aspen
Got a call from healthcare gov place asking me to do a survey.
tidal berry
a lot of the reason docs don't sedate or anaesthetize you before they set a bone...
thats.. unsettling, lmao
zinc talon
the worst thing a grafting bone can have happen to it, is vibration of all things
so if you ever think you've broken something
and you have a tuning fork handy
median steeple
It's related to me being part Inuit
zinc talon
bop the fork then set the end you hold against the spot
if it doesn't hurt the bone isn't broken there
median steeple
I don't think I've ever gotten a survey about my healthcare before
zinc talon
if it is broken, you'll know because suddenly the tuning fork is in the next zip code over
grizzled aspen
so if you ever think you've broken something
I think the ragged wheezing from my broken ribs is enough to know its broken. :)
median steeple
I rather fuckings just email me for shit
zinc talon
oh god that's right, I have broken a rib or two
median steeple
grizzled aspen
Getting chucked from a car at 45mph is a great excuse for broken ribs.
Wear your seatbelts, ladies and gents.
zinc talon
I forgot cuz it was balls deep in the covid lockdowns
and you got me fucked up if you think I was gonna go to the hospital then to get it looked at
tidal berry
how did that happen
plucky gate
most i've ever had was just like a really small fracture on my wrist from falling on it
zinc talon
I was stepping out of my tub after a shower and caught my foot on the lip
went down sideways on the lip and accordion'd myself
grizzled aspen
how did that happen
Passenger seat, learned my driver was narcoleptic, crashed into a concrete barrier.
Yeet ensues.
zinc talon
jesus
tidal berry
thats wild
zinc talon
you got thrown from the car?
grizzled aspen
Yeah we dont let him drive anymore.
zinc talon
you are lucky to be alive
grizzled aspen
Yes.
copper hawk
The Hans Moleman of zeal chat
tidal berry
yep
zinc talon
HA
grizzled aspen
I still have to pick shattered glass out of my back every now and then.
Quite annoying.
zinc talon
something like 90% of the people thrown from cars go home from the accident in a zipperbag
grizzled aspen
But I lived with only a few broken ribs and some minor lacerations.
zinc talon
how far did you travel, did they tell you
grizzled aspen
Helps that I reacted in time to tuck and roll.
zinc talon
also were you drunk at the time? lol because alcohol stops people from tensing before an impact like that
grizzled aspen
Had my head or neck hit the asphalt, I surely wouldve gone home in a bag.
zinc talon
that's why drunk drivers will live and the people they hit don't
grizzled aspen
also were you drunk at the time? lol because alcohol stops people from tensing b...
Nope.
tidal berry
my brother used to do delivery around covid, it paid stupid well
zinc talon
I believe it
tidal berry
he quit because he witnessed too many horrible accidents
grizzled aspen
Kinda wishing I was!
tidal berry
and people that died or had it worse than death
grizzled aspen
I think if I was drunk, though, then I wouldn't have been able to keep him from driving off the road and wrapping us around a tree in time.
zinc talon
my brother by choice took a job at the company running one of the private toll roads in dallas
in the nerve center room
grizzled aspen
Concrete barrier unironically was the best option.
zinc talon
he was the one that had to watch the monitors and relay info to the police in the event of a crash
think he saw like four? people burn to death in car fires after an accident
tidal berry
thats one short ticket to trauma
zinc talon
I'm glad he quit, he said it didn't bother him but that was just bravado you could see it in his face it would
tidal berry
even in todays world where ppl are generally desensitized to violence
or like, other gruel stuff
grizzled aspen
I'm glad he quit, he said it didn't bother him but that was just bravado you cou...
I'm glad he didnt have to smell it.
tawdry leaf
@remote lark hey we playin again sumtime today or nah
grizzled aspen
Once you smell a person burn, you don't forget that scent.
Very unique smell, that one.
zinc talon
naw real trauma, like highway accident vids and the like
grizzled aspen
Youll never attend a bbq again.
zinc talon
you never get desensitized to real violence
zinc talon
Youll never attend a bbq again.
lol don't you bring that evil in here ricky bobby I'm having that for dinner
tidal berry
maybe
grizzled aspen
lol don't you bring that evil in here ricky bobby I'm having that for dinner
Then do yourself a favor and avoid vehicles that catch fire.
zinc talon
yknow, I think that's one of those lifestyle health choices
stay away from industrial fires, live longer
live better
grizzled aspen
Good plan!
tidal berry
this reminds me of the cybertruck explosion on the news
zinc talon
the wannabe domestic terrorist one?
tidal berry
oh, so it really was a DIY terrorist thing?
grizzled aspen
And with this change in topic, I vacate the scene.
zinc talon
yeah he was some spec ops army guy that went off the deep end and packed the truck full of fireworks and camp fuel
and like a true coward ended it before they went off
the steel superstructure of the truck absorbed most of the blast, nobody was hurt
so, best possible outcome I spose
next to that dude being committed
hard nexus
the steel superstructure of the truck absorbed most of the blast, nobody was hur...
i seriously doubt people were intended to be hurt
zinc talon
yeah?
hard nexus
someone with that training knows explosives very well
hard nexus
he was likely doing it as protest
specifically protest against elon musk
akin to self immolation
grizzled aspen
Anyone with basic explosives training can level a building with the shit you find in a garage.
zinc talon
ah so possibly ending it all in such a way as to get people's attention
grizzled aspen
Just throwing that out there.
zinc talon
yep I agree
zinc talon
I mean I knew by middle school styrofoam and gasoline overnight turn into napalm
hard nexus
it being a cyber truck was a very deliberate choice
grizzled aspen
Okri has been put on a watchlist now.
zinc talon
and anyone anywhere can just glue nails to a propane tank and set that off
grizzled aspen
Welcome, and enjoy your stay.
tidal berry
ah so possibly ending it all in such a way as to get people's attention
I feel like this too
stone fern
aaaaaaaaaaaa why cant i get one dreg game?
zinc talon
lol probably, it's alright I have nothing to hide and am curious as to the process
watch me get swatted and slapped with a possession charge cuz that's all I have in the house lol
grizzled aspen
Curiosity leads to the CIA award for journalism, dont ya know?
(two gunshot wounds to the back of the head ruled as a suicide)
zinc talon
ah, the minute to learn lifetime to master multiple bullets to the head self-inflicted suicide
more art than science, really
anyway fuck that guy and fuck anyone even in the same mental postal code
grizzled aspen
Speaking of suicide, does anyone ever get flamers just not play animations correctly when theyre on the brink of popping?
zinc talon
the best way to deal with people like that is to forget everything about them
they don't deserve to be remembered
grizzled aspen
Like I got chased by a tox flamer a few matches ago, she was about to pop, but she was doing the cowering animation and still flamering me.
zinc talon
Speaking of suicide, does anyone ever get flamers just not play animations corre...
so like, the second stage of damage to the tank
when it's just a matter of time
I've seen them restart their lil panic animation midway sometimes
oh nope not that
heh, reminds me
grizzled aspen
Okri what stupid shit should I run in aurics?
zinc talon
zealot, I am completely ignorant to veteran
ACTUALLY
copy my build and rate it for me
tidal berry
that combo does work pretty well for vet too
grizzled aspen
I could do like exe stance bp.
grizzled aspen
Bp surprisingly hits good breakpoints with exe stance and puncture.
sullen forge
Well I mean Chainsword is lukewarm on Vet but BP is good
grizzled aspen
The only issue is ammo capacity.
tidal berry
I do run boltgun/crusher, its pretty funny
zinc talon
zinc talon
Designated Team Mom(TM)
grizzled aspen
Yuckers...
zinc talon
ah I see you also play star citizen
zinc talon
how about I login and run one with you
zinc talon
and can see me in action
grizzled aspen
I know it has good crit adms because it has good finesse and whatnot but I also know it has shit dodges and it feels icky without IJ.
median steeple
Darktide I assume
yeah I got disconnected from a hav twice
zinc talon
I'll grant anyone that this is prolly a setup very specific to me and my personal playstyle
sullen forge
yeah I got disconnected from a hav twice
Stellar
grizzled aspen
and can see me in action
I am going to run exe stance boltgun and kill everything before it becomes a problem.
stone fern
crusher marty is best crusher
grizzled aspen
(its so fucking good and blows plasma out of the water)
stone fern
blazing piety is mid tbh
tidal berry
I know it has good crit adms because it has good finesse and whatnot but I also ...
eh, its just ragdolls things around so not as bad
zinc talon
Never tried crit crusher but I heard it was a thing
yeah when you get all your crit stuff online you're running at about 70% crit and I personally average 60% weak spot hit rate
grizzled aspen
Piety isnt mid, crusher just doesnt work well with it.
vague depot
Ran martyr Thammer because it let a uncharged light one shot most elites
zinc talon
at 70% crit and 60% weak spot hit rate, that means in the law of large numbers
vague depot
yeah when you get all your crit stuff online you're running at about 70% crit an...
Oh that’s pretty nice
zinc talon
every second swing you release is a weak spot crit hit
(on average)
the crusher's damage tiering from body to head to crit is bonkers
factor in skullcrusher and maybe thrust and goddamn
grave cypress
I was in a game with someone yesterday killing every demonhost we came across (there ended up being 3) in the archivum. He could 2/3 shot them with IJ and his hammer and honestly, I'm all for weird niche builds and think they're cool
tidal berry
I might give that a try, Idk if I'd put book though
grave cypress
I kinda forgot zealots could do huge boss damage cause i just dont see them these days
vague depot
Isn’t ij Thammer just the standard Thammer build though
zinc talon
yeah thunder hammer-ers are a pretty rare breed these days
vague depot
Unless he was running shroud or something
grizzled aspen
I'm genuinely considering thrust slaughterer on crusher and just using the special to open bulwarks.
Feels like fart shark nerfed the aoe on crusher special.
tidal berry
yeah thunder hammer-ers are a pretty rare breed these days
they're in an identity crisis rn 😔
grizzled aspen
But I may just be spoiled for when lethal prox worked with it.
zinc talon
it's that light swing detonations only do half damage and half aoe range relative to heavies
vague depot
they're in an identity crisis rn 😔
Going Thammer only to get completely out damaged by a toothpick is rough
grave cypress
Hammers do feel a little weird now with Relic Blade admiteddly.
zinc talon
tl,dr: heavy detonation swill stagger anything in arm's reach of what you hit
light detonations only stagger what you hit
frozen kernel
But I may just be spoiled for when lethal prox worked with it.
Was just gonna say this
zinc talon
that's the relative size of the radius
grizzled aspen
Yeah then I'm just spoiled on the aoe.
W/e.
I can use it as a stagger tool to specific enemies and otherwise just a long bonk stick.
frozen kernel
Still a fun weapon
vague depot
What does w/e mean
grizzled aspen
Whatever.
frozen kernel
Whatever
vague depot
Ah
grizzled aspen
Banx, what doin?
frozen kernel
Werkin
grizzled aspen
Kms.
tidal berry
Going Thammer only to get completely out damaged by a toothpick is rough
Before DS was made accessible to all I always thought a melee weapon can never distrupt the experience as much as ranged stuff can, how naive I was
frozen kernel
Yeah it be like that
zinc talon
loggin in now frog if you wanna run one
grizzled aspen
Thankfully my stomach doesnt feel like a washing machine now.
zinc talon
I've got a long time squaddie with me too so that's 3
grizzled aspen
So thats nice.
vague depot
I've got a long time squaddie with me too so that's 3
You all doing havoc?
grizzled aspen
loggin in now frog if you wanna run one
Let me take my trash out and then I'll be ready.
zinc talon
You all doing havoc?
we could I spose, gonna warm up on an auric first
grave cypress
Before DS was made accessible to all I always thought a melee weapon can never d...
Disrupt the expierence? What's the meaning of this. That originally you thought ranged was more powerful than melee?
vague depot
Ooh sounds good lemme finish up my sandwich and if you still have room I would like to join
zinc talon
cool cool, that's 4
sullen forge
Disrupt the expierence? What's the meaning of this. That originally you thought ...
Well I mean he has a point
tidal berry
Disrupt the expierence? What's the meaning of this. That originally you thought ...
never said I'm good at elaborating
sullen forge
You have to actually close the gap with melee
frozen kernel
I understood it
sullen forge
Ranged cause just do it whenever
tidal berry
but basically there are weapons/abilities in this game that trivialize encounters to the point it makes other players feel like they might aswell not be there
frozen kernel
Yolked melee wound up being more impactful because guns run out of ammo. Melee is something you rely on the majority of the time
tidal berry
the toothpick casually nuking crushers/bosses gives that feeling to someone running thammer
grave cypress
Well I mean he has a point
I was asking for clarification, I wasn't stating an opinion
zinc talon
the toothpick casually nuking crushers/bosses gives that feeling to someone runn...
OH MY GOD PREACH
this is why I loathe poop shovels
and have never used one
frozen kernel
Is that the folding one
zinc talon
both
zinc talon
at one point, early on for the OG shovels and later right after hinge shovels debuted
light holly
H1 > Special attack
grave cypress
Folding shovel was a really nice novelty when it first came out tbh, it does get old though lol
zinc talon
those were the hardest hitting bar none weapons on offer for ogri
a fuckin flimsy ass hinged shit shoveler
WE HAVE POWER MAULS THAT EXPLODE
tidal berry
this is why I *loathe* poop shovels
I thought they'd be cool at first but after like two games I just returned to standard shovel, which is the only cool shovel
zinc talon
light holly
The folding shovels with some pretty bad horde control
sullen forge
Extremely bad horde control
grizzled aspen
The real way to realize shovels true potential is for fatshark to give them to zealout.
sullen forge
Lukewarm if it’s Mk7
grizzled aspen
Surely a folding shovel with duellist and chastise wont be broken as hell.
light holly
Extremely bad horde control
I have been making the standard shovel with armourbane on a helbore work wonders
grave cypress
Generally. I pick a weapon that is my hordeclear, and a weapon that is my armoured/elite killer. Its okay to have something shit at horde control if it takes out elites, you just run folding shovel with something like Mk2 ripper would be valid
sullen forge
Surely a folding shovel with duellist and chastise wont be broken as hell.
This shit is honestly why you guys probably still don’t have shovels
grizzled aspen
I have been making the standard shovel with armourbane on a helbore work wonders
Mk1 shovel uses uncanny, though, unless youre one of those deci + sk users.
sullen forge
You probably wouldn’t even need thrust
light holly
Naw I still uncanny sk
zinc talon
placid fiber
Lukewarm if it’s Mk7
doesn't the mk7 folding shovel have the exact same attack profile for the heavies as the standard issue one? iirc they are both horizontal heavies
grizzled aspen
Hotshot is cleave on headshot right?
light holly
Yeah
sullen forge
doesn't the mk7 folding shovel have the exact same attack profile for the heavie...
Slightly slower and weaker
light holly
And it applies to melee weapon
placid fiber
Slightly slower and weaker
Ah
sullen forge
Very small difference but noticeable
grizzled aspen
Ex-fucking-scuse me?
light holly
sullen forge
Hotshot is cleave on headshot right?
Yes
grizzled aspen
Hotshot works on your melee when the helbore is stowed? That's what youre saying?
light holly
Standard shovel gets pretty decent when you also get hotshot
tidal berry
Hotshot is cleave on headshot right?
kinda like... brutal momentum at home?
sullen forge
Yes
light holly
Yeag
sullen forge
It’s pseudo BM
grizzled aspen
This is the first I'm learning of this.
light holly
But it only really matters for like a few melee weapons
grizzled aspen
I might actually use hotshot then.
light holly
Namely the shovel
visual stream
they're in an identity crisis rn 😔
Thankfully I'm happy with my identity "crisis" stick 😌
sullen forge
it makes shovel feel pretty nice even though it’s already good
visual stream
Solving any problem in the game outside of havoc except for ten ragers at once is nice
grave cypress
I doubt that hotshot blessing is supposed to work like that then right? I worry getting acustomed to things not meant to be used then lose it
light holly
I doubt that hotshot blessing is supposed to work like that then right? I worry ...
Uhh its hard to know
The issue being it doesn't really work on other melee weapons
sullen forge
They still haven’t touched Lethal Prox on shredders
light holly
So you can't just get sudo BM for a dueling sword
zinc talon
I doubt that hotshot blessing is supposed to work like that then right? I worry ...
have they ever taken a blessing away from a weapon? I can't think of any
sullen forge
Same with Puncture on Assail
tidal berry
They still haven’t touched Lethal Prox on shredders
someone will remember it exists in like 10 months time when fat fish is back from holiday
light holly
Lethal prox getting removed from bistol would kill it ima be real
grave cypress
have they ever taken a blessing away from a weapon? I can't think of any
Not take away a blessing but fix the code or change the blessings wording / function
zinc talon
ah
sullen forge
someone will remember it exists in like 10 months time when fat fish is back fro...
Tbf it’ll completely nuke grenadier builds usefulness
zinc talon
someone will remember it exists in like 10 months time when fat fish is back fro...
wait so
visual stream
Lethal Prox is a cool blessing and I like that it interacts with other parts of the kit
zinc talon
shredder pistol with lethal prox
light holly
have they ever taken a blessing away from a weapon? I can't think of any
BM on helbore was an interaction removed pretty early
zinc talon
will do the old thing with my crusher?
sullen forge
Not to an unplayable degree
visual stream
There are very few things that do that and I like that they do because it incentivizes making different builds incorporating it
sullen forge
But to a like, ehh it’s there
visual stream
Like vet shredder grenade build 
zinc talon
BM on helbore was an interaction removed pretty early
brutal momentum?
light holly
Yeah
zinc talon
huh.
light holly
It applied to your ranged weapon one time
light holly
And the only ranged weapon class with melee that did serious damage was the bayonett
tidal berry
it was known for like, 10+ months when they purged it I think
sullen forge
Lethal Prox on the chopping block next
Cause fuck this synergy
From occasional use to fucking useless blessing
It’s peak
placid fiber
Slightly slower and weaker
I never got around to testing the mk7 much. The mk3 was the better of the folding shovels for me... access to a crusher 1 shot on the fly, light spam horde stagger... <.<
tidal berry
The BM nerf killed one of the coolest interactions you had on helbore 3
light holly
Lethal Prox on the chopping block next
tidal berry
you could do drag kills with the bayonet
normal wren
I never got around to testing the mk7 much. The mk3 was the better of the foldin...
Mk7 just has better heavies
light holly
NOOO
Ima be real unless the AOE on the bistol actually applies puncture
Removing LP on grenades will kill it
median steeple
you WILL use the bolt pistol for the bolt pistol and not it's interaction !
light holly
Its so ass
sullen forge
Ima be real unless the AOE on the bistol actually applies puncture
Puncture works on assail
median steeple
it's pretty decent
light holly
LP is actually butts
light holly
Puncture works on assail
median steeple
oh lethal prox?
sullen forge
Watch as LP gets nerfed
median steeple
yeah that shit is ass
light holly
NOOO
median steeple
it shouldn't exist
light holly
LP getting removed from grenade interaction will partially kill bistol I'll be real
grizzled aspen
@sullen forge hear me out, right.
median steeple
maintain the psyker agenda
median steeple
I don't want to play bistol with surgical!
I will force you to
grizzled aspen
Accatran shotgun, the fire one, to counter pus hardened, with flechette weapon spec.
sullen forge
<@820414945543716944> hear me out, right.
Before you even say it
light holly
Its actually ass
sullen forge
Puncture doesn’t work on shredders
light holly
Cause I'd just play bolter with surgical anyways
grizzled aspen
Accatran shotgun, the fire one, to counter pus hardened, with flechette weapon s...
This one you goofy, you didnt even let me speak. @sullen forge
sullen forge
Accatran shotgun, the fire one, to counter pus hardened, with flechette weapon s...
It’s not good sadly
sullen forge
The Flechette interaction only procs on first hit
grizzled aspen
Puncture should apply to everything caught in LP's blast.
light holly
I mean i guess you can
sullen forge
After that it’s only the small burn ticks
median steeple
take off your shackles
light holly
No 
zinc talon
median steeple
then you will perish
sullen forge
What you don’t like sitting still for 3 seconds
light holly
light holly
I'm only a level 1 kobold I don't even give good xp!
sullen forge
It’s not your fault
median steeple
I need to test my new spells
sullen forge
It’s just the way it is
light holly
And also I already run surgical on my hebore
sullen forge
Hebore
stone fern
nice chestplate
median steeple
if LP gets nerfed just run DA/Surg or DA/Punc
tidal berry
I don't like surgical
sullen forge
if LP gets nerfed just run DA/Surg or DA/Punc
Puncture they’ll just casually let synergize with assail
Cause Soyker propaganda
median steeple
light holly
if LP gets nerfed just run DA/Surg or DA/Punc
misty ravine
IIRC Bistol with Puncture + Run & Gun + Anoint In Blood hits some nice one-shot breakpoints
light holly
"YOU WILL LIKE ANOTHER BA SURGICAL BUILD GOD DAMN IT"
sullen forge
YOU WILL
light holly
IIRC Bistol with Puncture + Run & Gun + Anoint In Blood hits some nice one-shot ...
Run and gun is loopy, and frankly I'd just run surgical 
Puncture is fine
sullen forge
AND ILL KICK YOU IF YOU DONT RUN IT
misty nova
It got personality
....
Yeah
light holly
sullen forge
Can we ban him for not liking it
light holly
IM CRASHJNG OUT
grizzled aspen
Yes I am Halflight.
grizzled aspen
Outdamaged in specialist damage, time to kms.
zinc talon
sent
grave cypress
Can't wait for Zealots to get access to Helbore. Charge bayonett is gonna be so A E S T H E T I C
tidal berry
chastise bayo charge would be neat
sullen forge
Veteran Flamer lmao
median steeple
just watched an ogryn walk into a trapper
didn't even attempt to dodge it
while the zealot was chorusing above me
who was netted
sullen forge
just watched an ogryn walk into a trapper
Havoc
fleet zealot
Removing LP on grenades will kill it
it still removes the "safety" preventing close range detonations
but yea
you are 100% correct lol at least rn vet nade spam builds use it
gloomy dagger
Does Manstopper still work on throwing knives or nah?
stone fern
ye
gloomy dagger
Do you have to have it the shotty out or nah
stone fern
yeah you have to have it active
twilit otter
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth-auric
gloomy dagger
Does scattershot apply to knives or is it not worth bothering with
spare talon
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a...
it says meta in the name, and is on gameslantern
ofc it is
spare talon
like the general structure is fine
uncanny on ds4 when fotf is questionable
the gun is extremely questionable
immos instead of tknives, when youre already going down that path, which means you have to take the extra bad nodes in the top middle
which means youre losing out on attack speed or sustained assault at the bottom
and healthmaxxing instead of toughness
????????
tidal berry
it says meta in the name, and is on gameslantern
I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern I love gameslantern
sterile basalt
Run and gun is loopy, and frankly I'd just run surgical <:trollmad:8925545175084...
surgical is kinda meh for boltpistol
twilit otter
I dunno I like to go through gameslatern builds for some fun off meta variety and most builds are at least fun
but this one is so bad and it has like the highest votes
of all time
stone fern
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a...
talents arent bad weapons and blessings tho
spare talon
talents arent bad weapons and blessings tho
the more you look the worse it gets tho
remember that this is meant to be "zealot meta"
then you keep finding things that arent particularly meta in any way
stone fern
HEALTH CURIOS
twilit otter
If I were to suggest only a single build - for any class - to nominate as the absolute strongest, most well-rounded, highest skill ceiling playstyle with the greatest potential to carry and clutch the hardest missions this game could ever possibly create, it would be this build. Except for the last part.
in the description of the build...
sterile basalt
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a...
u should really stop following gameslantern for builds lol
twilit otter
speedload and inspiring barrage on the gun is fucking bizzare
plucky gate
if it really was meant to "carry the hardest missions", they wouldn't have needed to specify [auric] in the title
can't make up their mind about being meant for high difficulty or not
twilit otter
u should really stop following gameslantern for builds lol
there is variety at least
I think its a fun challenge to take this shit builds and play them
instead of playing the same build over and over
twilit otter
and there are a few gems buried in all the shit
unrelated to gems im trying this one out now https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da2c283-f13c-4891-81a7-57cf16477536/relic-blade-build-op-great-for-havoc
polar nexus
there was a bug fixed recently iirc
violet hornet
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a...
I played with this guy, I think he had a tag on his name saying he's a dev
grave cypress
HEALTH CURIOS
The more I play darktide the more I realize (unless I want to play wound zealot for fun) Stamina +3 is the only way to go
spare talon
time for melee psyker civi
enter melee only maelstrom
reapers in unreachable spots
uneven galleon
But still
tawdry leaf
snipers are specialists
i love going from max hp and toughness to no toughness and barely any HP from getting shot ONCE because you were out of dodges
violet hornet
razgriz? that rings some vague bell yeah
I have a recording of that game actually
hearty nebula
damn, no gambling for me 😔
misty nova
Yeah
copper hawk
Sighs..
sullen forge
i love going from max hp and toughness to no toughness and barely any HP from ge...
Why I always pay attention to any sound indicators of a sniper in play at all
sullen forge
i do not recall what i want for fire staff....
Well first you have to get the staff part from the Panzer Soldat
And then shoot the plane down for the second piece-
hearty nebula
And then shoot the plane down for the second piece-
visual stream
4+ hours into work thinking ab how awesome of a clutch I hit earlier was..
Love when the randoms are glazing you mid-way too
sullen forge
I had to reread that 3 times to make sure it was yours LMAO
grizzled aspen
I tried this build holy crap its bad https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a...
"meta"
brautogun
You shouldve seen it coming from a mile away.
grizzled aspen
not the most impressive showing for our first date eh frog
My only gripe was the first or second go around in the pox gas mael, one of your buddies was hoovering all the ammo and shooting things I was actively about to delete.
Otherwise it was alright.
The pbb ogryn.
zinc talon
they were a wild card, I thought mister numbers would join but they saw when I logged in and hopped in
also thought they'd pivot after the first loss
grizzled aspen
Numbers guy is actually quite good.
zinc talon
I mistakenly saw two ogryn and thought oh good the bases I cover with okri will also be covered
presumptive of me
grizzled aspen
I'm gonna be real, I reserve judgment until I actually see gameplay.
zinc talon
as a result I wasn't looking for CC opportunities and taking the attention of bosses/specials
grizzled aspen
Your mates are alright, just didnt like the no ammo thing in the pox gas mission.
But that may also just be my stigma against pbb ogryns in general.
🤷
zinc talon
yeah that player would normally cover the bases you had locked down no help needed
plus the ammo competition
grizzled aspen
As for general improvement, I would say that they need to figure out who has the boss and split off so at least one person is dealing with specialists and elite groups.
If the boss was paying attention to me, it HAD to be one of us two to do that.
And considering I cant do both, it had to be you, but you also had to play team mom.
Just food for thought, if you want to share my tips.
TLDR brush up on engagement order.
zinc talon
naw I'll mention it, that's a good perspective
grizzled aspen
It's something havoc beat into my brain. :)
zinc talon
I've got my engagement order etched into my bones and edgica and I have been playing so long we can unconsciously split the threats 50/50
would be a good thing to bring up for the text channel for everyone to see, I'll shit out a couple paragraphs on it
grizzled aspen
I also cant toot my own horn about my performance. :P
I kept getting netted because I've not been playing rb today at all.
Been playing shovel vet all day.
zinc talon
also I'll be much quicker next sit down once my aquisitions and logistics expert drops by to deliver much needed and empra sanctioned marching powder
back in a cpl hours, was fun
zinc talon
minus the baking soda
twilit otter
Is this a private conversation
humble minnow
^^^^
spare talon
HUH
acoustic dune
ey ey gay mers
grizzled aspen
hearty nebula
someone finally noticed my great work
frozen kernel
Sleeping is for only the coolest zealots
acoustic dune
Sleeping is for only the coolest zealots
how about nap nap?
grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
I unironically feel very sorry for people who can’t just close their eyes and fall asleep for 3 hours
grizzled aspen
What eyes are you seeing me with, bro.
I have completely skinned that reaper's face.
visual stream
Well, he's got the bionic one I suppose
twilit otter
Average zealout chat behavior.
A little too coherent for zealot chat
plain ferry
What is the ideal blessings for a combat blade?
sullen forge
someone finally noticed my great work
It’s fucking hilarious cause that absolutely could fly under the radar
Actual spy plane
visual stream
What is the ideal blessings for a combat blade?
Lacerate haymaker
Sorry the voices won
plain ferry
is that actually not it?
visual stream
Absolutely no
plain ferry
what is it then?
visual stream
Uncanny and I think flesh tearer is what some people like
Uncanny and riposte(?)
Uncanny in general very gud
sullen forge
Riposte Precog
Uncanny Precog
Uncanny Riposte
plain ferry
i always use lacerate and mercy killer and it bids me well but i wondered
plain ferry
If you’re abusing ADM bleed
ADM?
plain ferry
oh.. OH
twilit otter
Lacerate is bleed on body shot right?
plain ferry
so something like this?
grizzled aspen
so something like this?
Change damage to specialists to flak damage and crit chance to your flavor of hated armor.
fleet zealot
kaching
visual stream
so something like this?
You wanna change both perks
golden rain
Why don't you just say penetration
Because that's not how Rending works.
visual stream
More like penortration
fleet zealot
and also find a new knife
plain ferry
is it bad?
visual stream
so something like this?
Show me your thunder hammer 🌝
twilit otter
First target 66%
plain ferry
i never use it lmao
grizzled aspen
You have a first target dump, thats a massive dps loss.
You want to dump mobility.
fleet zealot
is it bad?
you want mobility dumped, or penetration dumped to 60% if you plan on always using uncanny strike
grizzled aspen
60% is where mob should cap out.
plain ferry
aw damn i like going fastr
fleet zealot
number of dodges caps out at like 51%, hence why it's usually dumped
twilit otter
aw damn i like going fastr
That's not how mobility works
fleet zealot
since the change in "speed" from 60 vs 80 is basically nothing
grizzled aspen
That's not how mobility works
That is how it works, goofy.
Mobility is sprint speed, dodge distance, and dodge count.
plain ferry
so these stats?
grizzled aspen
At 60% on knife, you have 80% more sprint speed, 11% further dodge distance, and 5 dodges.
plain ferry
and then flak, carapace, lacerate, and uncanny?
spare talon
difference between 60% and 79% mobility on knife
plain ferry
i love my bleed tho
misty nova
Knife likes weakspots
grizzled aspen
and then flak, carapace, lacerate, and uncanny?
Lacerate if you want to abuse bleed, otherwise pick your poison between riposte and precog.
Lacerate requires you weave headshots and bodyshots on purpose.
fleet zealot
i love my bleed tho
just go fleshtearer
grizzled aspen
Because you want to apply bleed with bodyshots but keep uncanny running with headshots.
plain ferry
gotcha
fleet zealot
lacerate does not make up for the damage you lose from not hitting a weakspot
spare talon
lacerate uncanny is the most difficult to make good use of cuz you have to both know when to hit heads and when to hit bodies, and against what
99% of people are better off with crit/finesse blessings and uncanny if you want
cuz it just works
grizzled aspen
But yes to everything else.
fleet zealot
nearly 3x damage or... 4 stacks of bleed
spare talon
finesse moment
plain ferry
didnt have enough diamantine to max this thing out
grizzled aspen
Flak, your hated armor flavor, and uncanny.
Then either precog or riposte.
Riposte, I feel, is better.
fleet zealot
don't woryr about maxing it out to 500
if it's not perfect stat spread
it's a waste of materials
you can get a perfect stat spread easily
plain ferry
im worried, and i want my fastness back
golden rain
It's 80 everything with mobility dumpstat
grizzled aspen
im worried, and i want my fastness back
I promise you your speed is mostly unaffected.
spare talon
precog/riposte also works and and is generally more consistent outside of crushers but the crit+precog+duellist almost reaches uncanny numbers anyway
plain ferry
also annoyed cuz i dont have a second blessing
grizzled aspen
It's like a 9% speed diff.
spare talon
its realistically unnoticable
golden rain
Plus you're on Zealot(?) anyway
plain ferry
Plus you're on Zealot(?) anyway
ye
golden rain
You're generally going to be crackhead fast regardless
lament blaze
dumping mobility is really free but
if you yearn for the most speed i think it's understandable if you want 80 mobility
spare talon
knife is a weird case
because youre still probably better off dumping mobility
mostly cuz its dodge distance is borderline unweildly
but you can dump penetration and uncanny can make up for it
lament blaze
but someone's reasoning for going knife may be because they want to go literally as fast as possible
plain ferry
i do like being fast
lament blaze
for memes or otherwise
spare talon
knife movement speed should still be gutted cuz it fundamentally breaks combat
visual stream
Mk4 better rounded and Mk3 more single target IIRC
spare talon
mk3 is single target focused
mk6 has more sweeps, sacrificing some of its single target to be not as bad at group clear
whichever you like tbh
lament blaze
go mk3 then intentionally never kill a single trash mob
so you can get a fantastic scoreboard screencap
lament blaze
Lesser enemies killed: 0
visual stream
https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793
Zealot chat rizz
lament blaze
Be the pub teammate Epic_Cole warned you about
spare talon
Zealot chat rizz
not true
i would already be running away at the sight of a girl
vague depot
Gotta proc duelist somehow
visual stream
Now that's relatable content
spare talon
visual stream
girl tries to talk to me
dodge to proc duelist
swap to bolter, throwing knife swap animation cancel
magdump
lament blaze
where does this come from lmao
grizzled aspen
This game makes me sad, man.
visual stream
Just as FatShark intended
grizzled aspen
The amount of people that don't see it as horror is depressing.
grizzled aspen
You are literaly locked in a house with a yandere and she absolutely will kill you.
misty nova
where does this come from lmao
Miside
grizzled aspen
PU' OU' A BO'ER
lament blaze
inch resting
spare talon
This game makes me sad, man.
i dont know what it is this is the first thing i saw of it
but i saw a post that said "this game hit lonely losers like crack hit the hood"
misty nova
If I had a nickel for a cute game with girls with a horror sort of twist
hearty nebula
https://tenor.com/view/stare-at-you-hired-mita-miside-stare-gif-1303394816086515...
explodes her
misty nova
Then Monika would kill me
spare talon
If I had a nickel for a cute game with girls with a horror sort of twist
is it really a horror game lmao
misty nova
misty nova
is it really a horror game lmao
Dunno didn't see much about miside
And I went for the good ending of ddlc
So like
misty nova
copper hawk
FREAKY emote wtf
sterile basalt
is mk3 or mk4 better?
mk6 is all round better
mk3 doesn't use as much stamina for single target but also has slightly worse dps
plain ferry
oh gotcha
sterile basalt
both are very strong
if u want a more complex weapon for slightly better performance, mk6
if u want a simpler weapon, mk3
twilit otter
That *is* how it works, goofy.
That's not what I meant
dry hinge
Hi. I remember you. Said electro bubble staff psyker here. 👋 perhaps you should provide the full context next time. You ran so far ahead and died first. Then you snowballed the rest of the team into me soloing the mission for like 10 minutes and I needed to run back with an entire mixed horde, 2 bosses on me. You then proceeded to complain and said you have “DS”, use it on boss. Bruh, then I said you confused me for the other psyker. And I needed to kite with electro staff which does 2k+ damage on bosses. Anyways, good to see the 25 havoc solo insta death zealot talking shit with zero context
twilit otter
The implication that it's not a meaningful change
grizzled aspen
@merry flume don't you have a h40 clear?
dry hinge
He was 25 at the time.
I remember mocking him while I had true survivor 40 and he even got my weapons wrong
dry hinge
Instantly blocked him so I didn’t team with him again for rushing so far ahead and dying
grizzled aspen
Cool your jets.
silver stag
grizzled aspen
You're malding over something that happened over a week ago.
If you hold a grudge that long, you don't belong in zealout chat.
hearty nebula
FREAKY emote wtf
grizzled aspen
:)
twilit otter
Talking smack to a live player while you are down or dead is bad form imo
hearty nebula
Hi. I remember you. Said electro bubble staff psyker here. 👋 perhaps you shou...
ok noob
drowsy steppe
>girl tries to talk to me
>dodge to proc duelist
>swap to bolter, throwing knife...
so true
grizzled aspen
It is.
copper hawk
Dra ma ! Dra ma ! Dra ma !
twilit otter
The irony is never lost on people
remote lark
Hi. I remember you. Said electro bubble staff psyker here. 👋 perhaps you shou...
u joined the server and immediately searched up the name of someone u were mad at a week ago?
copper hawk
hearty nebula
that's called being bathetic
silver stag
Damn zealots are at it again
hearty nebula
there is no "kind of"
grizzled aspen
Extreme level malding.
hearty nebula
it just is
drowsy steppe
well it seems I came back at a perfect time
silver stag
Arguing over which furry race is the best
dry hinge
Actually nah, friend invited me and I was looking through his messages for something. And just happened to see this guy talking shit
silver stag
Ya hate to see a community tuen on itself like that
remote lark
Actually nah, friend invited me and I was looking through his messages for somet...
Riight
sullen forge
<@103507581405786112> don't you have a h40 clear?
Yeah I helped pookie clear H40 same with Psycho
remote lark
You're breaking server rules
grizzled aspen
Yeah I helped pookie clear H40 same with Psycho
And when was this?
remote lark
🤨
sullen forge
And when was this?
3-4 days ago
hearty nebula
Actually nah, friend invited me and I was looking through his messages for somet...
is it britman
grizzled aspen
Lmao.
sullen forge
like right after reset
grizzled aspen
That's hilarious.
dry hinge
is it britman
Yeah
remote lark
copper hawk
That's a weeks old message wtf
grizzled aspen
Aye.
copper hawk
Nay
grizzled aspen
More for us.
copper hawk
U both get half a vote
lament blaze
twilit otter
What server rule is he breaking
grizzled aspen
What server rule is he breaking
Witch hunting.
sullen forge
U both get half a vote
.25%
hearty nebula
Your friend is breaking server rules.
brit probably didnt do anything knowing him actually
copper hawk
Witch hunting
sullen forge
Stinkatrices...
remote lark
What server rule is he breaking
witch hunting
hearty nebula
he's not that petty
twilit otter
That's a specific rule?
copper hawk
Brit didnt do anything
tepid shoal
Finally got "buying some time"
grizzled aspen
That's a specific rule?
Yes lol.
copper hawk
Lmfao
grizzled aspen
That's exactly what Dorn got shot for.
tepid shoal
Just need the 40 kills in 10 seconds and I'll be done with the shock grenade penances
dry hinge
Witch hunting and yet I responded to a very specific post I recognized the name from? It’s not like I went out of my way to begin with
copper hawk
Wise men not speaking fools removing all doubt etc
twilit otter
What is the definition of witch hunting in this context
grizzled aspen
Rule #7 is no witch hunting.
drowsy steppe
dry hinge
Just thought it was amusing I recognized the name and zero context
grizzled aspen
What is the definition of witch hunting in this context
Calling out specific players by name for their gameplay or what they do outside of this server. If you want to do that, you report that stuff to mods.
silver stag
I say we eat desynch, like real furries, and move on
copper hawk
What is the definition of witch hunting in this context
Calling someone out (by name) from something that happened elsewhere publically
silver stag
Its the only way
remote lark
Witch hunting and yet I responded to a very specific post I recognized the name ...
Yes.
grizzled aspen
And so, he has broken server rules.
copper hawk
That's typically how that precedent is applied
grizzled aspen
Kill and eat this man.
sullen forge
not much can be done
copper hawk
Bloods already in the water
Yah lmfak
river jackal
Am with girlfriend, not sure why I was pinned
copper hawk
Also ur shark pun
river jackal
Pinged, whatever
copper hawk
Jawsome..
sullen forge
guhuh
remote lark
Am with girlfriend, not sure why I was pinned
hi brit man
sullen forge
its jawsome..
river jackal
If people got drama between them that's up to them man
dry hinge
Am with girlfriend, not sure why I was pinned
Me.
silver stag
Kill and eat this man.
I call his thighs
copper hawk
Am with girlfriend, not sure why I was pinned
Those without those have a new dopamine hit to chew on
twilit otter
I didn't realize people cared about the rules in zealot chat considering how much off topic stuff is posted
river jackal
Let em handle their shit
copper hawk
Just ignore it
grizzled aspen
I call his thighs
Bro...
remote lark
We gotta kill and eat u
grizzled aspen
I didn't realize people cared about the rules in zealot chat considering how muc...
We don't witch hunt people unless they really truly deserve it.
lament blaze
I feel like starting shit with someone shouldn't be called witch hunting. It's really only witch hunting if you try to rally people to pile on them no?
hearty nebula
We gotta kill and eat u
but not before we kiss them on the lips
grizzled aspen
And even then we only talk shit after they get axed by a mod.