#zealot-class

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copper hawk
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Rashad 2 shotting crushers

sullen forge
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CDR Aura + Elite Kill Talent

fleet zealot
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they had to buff it up again

sullen forge
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PSyker

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is

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so

fleet zealot
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BUFF PSYKER AGAIN

copper hawk
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Plasma trivializing whole experience

sullen forge
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BUSTED

fleet zealot
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no psyker is the most spoiled

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vet is more busted

copper hawk
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Great in melee

fleet zealot
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that's my final take

copper hawk
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Great at range

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Excellent damage all around

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High base toughness

sullen forge
copper hawk
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Regenerating grenades

fleet zealot
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psyker gets absolutely spoiled with buffs

sullen forge
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you may as well go to sleep

sullen forge
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with how little you will be playing

copper hawk
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Mark targer 8 stacks 3 krak grenades

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Bye boss

sullen forge
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Cica you're actually dumb

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If you think that psyker is perfectly fine

copper hawk
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I said they're the best class jn the game

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I never said that

sterile basalt
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The last 8 stack focus target krak grenade user I saw did 300k damage in a 3veg

copper hawk
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U rail on ppl being childish for arguing, but u made an entire strawman from nothing

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Then call me dumb

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Erm the children r fighting again !!

fleet zealot
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i love ferrets cause they sleep like they paid off all the bills

copper hawk
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Chill out gale it's a game lmfao

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And i was just yapping

fleet zealot
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no worries

fleet zealot
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have some nuance damn

copper hawk
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Vet is the best all around class, from the perspective of a new player

fleet zealot
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^

sullen forge
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Explode immediately

fleet zealot
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psyker is spoiled with buffs, buffs on things that are already strong/good

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but they still aren't at the level of vet

copper hawk
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Next time u feel the need 2 call someone childish for arguin recall this meowment

sterile basalt
copper hawk
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It's also rlly funny how vets get touchy when their class is told it's probably the best on average

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Y get offended who care

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It's empirical

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And game

sullen forge
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We need to buff psyker

copper hawk
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Actually

fleet zealot
copper hawk
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@hard nexus

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Scroll up

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You'll appreciate this moment too

blissful tendon
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whats an ol reliable relic blade setup

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perk and blessing wise, anyways

hard nexus
blissful tendon
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ooh neat

fleet zealot
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rampage+ something

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cranial

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wrath for high havoc with dense modifier like gas or 21st

sterile basalt
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Cranial + rampage/wrath

fleet zealot
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leakage for strength maxing

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if you aren't a possy

red mesa
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hey i cant remember, do you get a decent amount of gold for completing havoc at the end of the match? like a tier 15-20?

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anyone know how much it is

sterile basalt
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Not much

fleet zealot
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not much

sterile basalt
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Havoc is not for farming resources

fleet zealot
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quickplay auric is best or a maelstroms for cash if you can clear a juiced one

sterile basalt
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The only worthwhile payout is weekly cache

sullen forge
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its Damnation so you dont really get much out of it

sterile basalt
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Which is 23k diamantine (yes it’s worth)

fleet zealot
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havoc doesn't give mats

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outside of idol plasteel

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which do scale up a bit but yea

vague depot
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I need that 23k diamantine

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But I can’t find a havoc 40 and ngl I don’t think I’m ready for it either

sullen forge
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Just dont get into bad positions thats probably all you really have to worry about with H40

hard nexus
vague depot
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True but I would absolutely wait a week for 23k dia

grizzled aspen
vague depot
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I’m great at following instructions

grizzled aspen
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The big thing is everyone has a job and all of the team NEEDS to be doing their jobs or you'll crumble.

vague depot
grizzled aspen
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For example, my job in our group is bubble.

fleet zealot
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i should see if i can clear 40 on

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my vet

grizzled aspen
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I have to

put bubbles down in advantageous spots
call out when bubble is about to fall and be ready
snag elite and specialist kills to get psykinetics aura procs and keep warp charges up for maximum bubble uptime

fleet zealot
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cause i can jsut spam nades

grizzled aspen
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Bubble psyker also has the fun job of directing the team to and fro.

hard nexus
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or chorus

grizzled aspen
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Chorus can move, bubble can't, and thats literally the only reason.

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I let Lumii direct Banx on chorus usage unless we are in a spot where we are just cycling abilities for survival, like mercantile end event.

sullen forge
grizzled aspen
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Or when we need to push into a specific annoying area, like the first tower on that one torrent map with the security stacks.

sullen forge
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or Shieldgryn

hard nexus
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yeah

grizzled aspen
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Gale kinda just does Gale things.

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Ngl I do not pay attention to him most of the time.

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Speaking of, Gale, how do you feel about playing ogryn?

sullen forge
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Eh

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its there

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it looks fun

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but idk

grizzled aspen
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Well I was thinking about getting an ogryn for our team.

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Either I could swap to ogryn and you can take my job or we can make Banx play ogryn.

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I am only considering this because heavy stubber does immense damage, enough that pus hardened kinda doesn't matter, and shield + taunt is op.

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It's, imo, the best way of keeping your soyker alive.

sullen forge
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Shield charge is just better though

grizzled aspen
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Not when I can grab the attention of literally everything and tonk, letting yall fight everything unabated.

sullen forge
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You can just run the talent where pushing taunts

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it has more value instead of waiting like what

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20 something seconds for an AOE stagger?

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when you could run charge with bleed to instantly make yourself tankier

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that and better CC

grizzled aspen
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You're forgetting the draw of it, which is increasing all damage dealt to anything in range.

sullen forge
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Its bleed

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DOT

sterile basalt
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Bull rush saves u 1 point (only need 1 subnode) so you can grab steady grip instead of lynchpin pathing up top

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Which is way better for toughness

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Steady grip is 13% toughness/s

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It’s not 5%

grizzled aspen
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That actually sounds nuts.

sullen forge
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yeah its just generally better

livid rampart
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I come here on my shit again

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Three words: shirt cut meme

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:))

grizzled aspen
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See the issue here is though, bull rush grabs stomping boots as 1 node, so you'd need a second point to grab the bleed talent.

sterile basalt
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Taunt is debatably better in some situations but Bull rush is full fight reset

sterile basalt
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Just stomping grounds for toughness recovery

grizzled aspen
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I'm pointing this out to Gale.

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He says bull rush is better because DOTs.

sterile basalt
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He’s wrong

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The better node is trample but it’s not rly highly applicable in most ways Bull rush is used for

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The bleed subnode is not very good after they patched it

grizzled aspen
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Mhmm.

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I still see more value in taunt just for the fact that I can instantly make everything take 20%(?) more damage every 30(?) seconds.

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(I don't remember the numbers off the top of my head but those sound right)

sullen forge
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I dont see the point over Bullrush's Toughness

sterile basalt
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It’s x1.25 damage taken for 15s

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It’s ok

livid rampart
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I take bullrush because i want to be Reinhardt

sterile basalt
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I prefer the stagger CDR subnode for it tho

sullen forge
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especially when you're running the Taunt Push talent

sterile basalt
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The CDR subnode is like -20s CD for taunt just by playing the game

sullen forge
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Literally just take that for when crusher trains show up

grizzled aspen
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Interesting.

sterile basalt
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I tested it before
45s base CD for taunt
With stagger CDR I got ~25s CD

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Just by hitting poxwalkers

grizzled aspen
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I'm just playing around with the idea of it in my head atm.

sterile basalt
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It’s not even with bruiser active

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Or psykinetic’s aura

grizzled aspen
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Not like you'd need bruiser lol.

sterile basalt
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Bruiser is good because elite kill CDR is nice

sullen forge
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You don't understand Bruiser is incredibly important

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LMAO

grizzled aspen
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If your cd drops to 20s and you've got a psyk aura soyker on your team, I don't see the point.

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Because you're going to have a psyk aura soyker.

hard nexus
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havoc random is taking shock trooper on a bolter

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lmfao

grizzled aspen
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Like that's non negotiable.

sterile basalt
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Add 3x 4% CDR on curios and u basically have permanent taunt coverage

sullen forge
sterile basalt
spare dome
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most of my builds do not have psyk aura

sterile basalt
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He’s merely starting to believe

sullen forge
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veteran buffs you wanted

spare dome
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also 'non negotiable' in a pub match is a pretty poor mindset to have. or a great way to be disappointed by your own expectations lol

grizzled aspen
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Exploits, you're assuming again.

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I'm talking about pre-made havocs.

spare talon
hard nexus
spare talon
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hit with a sniper literally mid slide

spare dome
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oh you wrote as though it was a hypothetical

sullen forge
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Is he LARPing?

hard nexus
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level 52

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console player

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so

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probably not

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prolly just stupid

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lmfao

sullen forge
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Average Veteran Player

livid rampart
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Maybe just doesn’t know

grizzled aspen
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Because we are going to have a psyk aura soyker.

grizzled aspen
spare talon
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that duo auric mael was going literally perfect right up until that point

fleet zealot
livid rampart
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He’ll be the most powerful teammate I ever

hard nexus
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typical

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joined a random havoc

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and its

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fucking

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havoc

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4

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eugh

sullen forge
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you will be timed out immediately

fleet zealot
sullen forge
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just

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4

hard nexus
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yes

sullen forge
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Peak

livid rampart
wet moon
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Hey guys! Just curious, does anybody have a Thunder Hammer build? I'm testing new builds on havoc and just curious whats out there for it.

grizzled aspen
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Hammer does not scale well for havoc.

fleet zealot
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Basically have to go shock and awe plus slaught or ht on ironhelm

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Or else you’ll get overwhelmed

wet moon
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I figured as much. Got the regular meta builds down just looking for something different. Thank you for the advice

visual stream
pliant otter
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Thoughts on this combo? I want to avoid using Bolter for the sake of variety

violet hornet
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all single target damage makes horde management difficult

pliant otter
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Regular hordes are fine with hammer, but yeah mixed stuff is something

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Rager packs are my doom

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So, lets say you have 4 weapons, Bolter, Thammer, revolver and Rblade, what would be the best mix for 2 builds?

uneven galleon
pliant otter
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Always

livid rampart
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Relic Blade is nice and versatile with horde clear and dealing with some mixed things (depends on the build) but Revolver and Rblade sound like a fun combo

uneven galleon
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I might opt with something with good spread or such

livid rampart
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But again it depends on your playstyle and what works with you

pliant otter
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This is the other build, I used to have revolver on this one, but it lacks that boss dmg

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I just want to avoid repeating weapons between builds

livid rampart
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Personal preference is Rblade with fotf and flamer.

Is nice for elites, hordes and bosses.

Drawback is fucking gunners

pliant otter
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By the way whats fotf

livid rampart
pliant otter
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Ah nice

copper hawk
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Yo mama

livid rampart
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It gives a super crit and combine that with a heavy attack you can (or nearly) one shot a crusher

pliant otter
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Yeah, been using flamer for a real long while, but I apreciate having long range always, sometimes 12 tknifes are not enough

livid rampart
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Also random fun fact is that if you start preparing a heavy attack and than hit fotf it’ll carry the heavy hold the whole way

pliant otter
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And then I have to run cover to cover just to get to their faces

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Indeed

livid rampart
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Throwback to me first trying it and not realizing that I was using the brace and not the long range one. (i was treating it like a long shot)

misty nova
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Bro was highnooing it

frozen kernel
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Cowboy is fun but personally I just need more dakka

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I prefer bistol instead of revolver for that quickdraw playstyle

livid rampart
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Me when the revolver

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“ITS HIGH NOON SNIPER”

gets yanked up by a mutant and launched into a trapper

livid rampart
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It be like that

frozen kernel
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Trapper was basically just sitting there holding the net with her hands

sturdy cypress
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Total Trapper Death (TTD) has been initiated since I started my grind for auric storm survivor

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we should have an event where we kill as many trappers as possible

frozen kernel
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I got the trapper and dog portraits first because they’re priority targets

sturdy cypress
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I don't care if I throw myself way out of position to get surrounded by 18 ragers I WILL chastise that trapper!

frozen kernel
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[woosh] “Someone else will deal with the mutant I’ll just dodge it while I deal with this sniper”

[whoosh] Surely someone is about to cleave it in half. My damn shots keep getting blocked by pox as I shoot at this bomber”

[woosh] Okay how is this fucker still alive guys? BONK

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Tried gun psyker last night for the first time with DB

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Was also conveniently my first time using the DB because I never used it after the combat shotguns were less than remarkable

grizzled aspen
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Tell that mutant he has yee'd his last haw and blast him with both barrels.

frozen kernel
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It’s nice just going “die” and giving them both barrels

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Even if they’re green

grizzled aspen
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Scriers is fun like that.

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Iirc it gets even sillier with an infernus recon because your DOTs get affected by scriers.

frozen kernel
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I needed to do the Oblivion thing and sleep on my new experience

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Something clicked and I’m excited to play more tonight

grizzled aspen
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Btw Banx, funny thing...

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We may have you play ogryn.

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Like for havoc.

grizzled aspen
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I just KNEW that was your face upon reading that.

drowsy steppe
frozen kernel
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Ogryn isn’t a horrible experience it’s just turbo boring

grizzled aspen
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Well, maybe it wont be you.

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Its likely that if we have an ogryn it will be me.

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But that means we need Gale to take my spot as soyker.

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Because I do not see Lumii playing ogryn at all, ever.

frozen kernel
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You Oggy, Gale Soyker, Lumi DPS zealot, me bookslut

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Universal harmony

grizzled aspen
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Nah Lumii prob wont do dps zealout.

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@remote lark weigh in, mutt.

frozen kernel
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Was talking to a buddy like “Yeah I tried gun psyker for the first time last night and this evil bastard took me into a CIVI”

grizzled aspen
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:)

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Learn to melee, bozo.

frozen kernel
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Mentioned our friend the lvl 27 Psyker

grizzled aspen
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Use your tools in equal measure.

frozen kernel
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>ASSAIL IN CIVI

fleet zealot
spare dome
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what if my tool is tiny and insufficient

fleet zealot
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Why go revolver in havoc lol

spare dome
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i am talking of course about my ahhh hahaaaaa my ahhhhh

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my combat knife

frozen kernel
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How about that one psyker with trauma actually hold right click in a doorway

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So I can keep meleeing cri

grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
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Hitmass and hp increase completely fucks it over in high havoc

grizzled aspen
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Maybe you have tiny and inefficient arms?

fleet zealot
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Just go bolter for bleed and fixed breakpoints with shattering

drowsy steppe
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hammer sucks

frozen kernel
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Ironhelm stronk

fleet zealot
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It’s not the size of the blade, but how you use it- quote from everyone blessed with a knife when the greatsword walks into the room

grizzled aspen
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Brunt casually carrying 7 perfect stat dist weapons for my ogryn.

fleet zealot
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Also in havoc zarona’s reload is a killer

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Staged reloads suck when your breakpoints go from 1 to 2

remote lark
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but only if you all listen to my callouts

grizzled aspen
remote lark
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you'll be paid with a clear

frozen kernel
sullen forge
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The enjoyable Havoc Experience of Double boss spawn cause someone wont stop rushing ahead

remote lark
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do we have a 4 man

sullen forge
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so idk maybe in a tinsy bit

grizzled aspen
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I am committing throw all this fucking money at Brunt to pay for mastery.

frozen kernel
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I’m working for the next…counting 4 hours

grizzled aspen
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Should I run rumbler or heavy stubber?

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Rumbler can be used as a diet shredder for elite displacement, heavy stubber will let me be a mobile turret.

remote lark
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heavy stubber.

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shield oggy runs frontline and specialist sniping

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you'll be helping me kill specialists

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pls tune your spidey sense to warn you of all specialist spawns

frozen kernel
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Oh wonderful

pliant otter
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If I dont waitfor surgical to proc should I look for another blessings intead? like rusian rulette?

misty nova
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Marksman Reflex Rumbler 🗣️

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Because your melee procs it

grizzled aspen
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The only one I dont tune it for is mutants for obvious reasons.

frozen kernel
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They almost yell your name

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Because they love you so much

copper hawk
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All the time

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At all hours of the day

sullen forge
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you're filled with malice and rage

copper hawk
sullen forge
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lmao

plush estuary
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pubs

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"kaboom"

frozen kernel
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Smashing Cica and Gab together would be like setting off an atom bomb of hatred

grizzled aspen
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What to run on heavy stubber?

frozen kernel
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I’m not saying we should but like 👉👈

drowsy steppe
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its shitter hours in pubs ainit

frozen kernel
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Someone bigger should give it a try

grizzled aspen
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Femboys fight dirty, man.

frozen kernel
grizzled aspen
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Cica would do like one of the 3 stooges moves and poke me in both of my eyes.

frozen kernel
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That’s a pro gamer move though

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Exploit the giant’s weakness

drowsy steppe
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I dont drink so Ill take your word for it

frozen kernel
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Their kind ill likes fire

grizzled aspen
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@remote lark what do you think I should run on hstubber?

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I'm thinking I'm not going to get a 1shot bp on gunners anyway so I was going to do reaper racism with unyielding + elites.

fleet zealot
grizzled aspen
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For blessings I'm thinking overwhelming fire (10% strength on 1 single target shot, stacking 5 times) and blaze away.

remote lark
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but he ate everything with his

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shoould ask him

fleet zealot
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I heard that’s good with big magazine one

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I think they said something different in oggy chat for the small magazine big damage one

grizzled aspen
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It is a necessary evil.

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@obsidian ore what do you run on your hstubber for havocs?

remote lark
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@obsidian ore

grizzled aspen
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Alright now he gets to kick your teeth in for pinging him a second time.

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:3

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I'm also thinking about opportunist.

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🤔

sullen forge
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Okay my stuff is here the fuck do you want me to do again

grizzled aspen
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:)

sullen forge
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Oh

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Oh that yeah

misty nova
grizzled aspen
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We actually dont have a shit map or modifiers we just kept getting fucked by bad pub teammates.

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Iirc its smelter complex moebian 21st blight spreads on h39.

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Lumii's assignment.

sullen forge
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You would not like mine

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@grizzled aspen

copper hawk
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It not..

grizzled aspen
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Mine is worse though.

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I have three modifiers.

sullen forge
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so...

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35

remote lark
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i doubled his specialist kills vs trauma staff

frozen kernel
grizzled aspen
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It was that fucking psyker man I stg.

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He popped 3 bursters on me.

frozen kernel
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It’s a remarkable kind of “balance” giving so much power to one person

sullen forge
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what class you want me to play exactly?

grizzled aspen
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I told him on the 2nd one that if he popped another on me then I'd pull his limbs off like an ant.

grizzled aspen
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Bubble soyker.

frozen kernel
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We get some tremendously shit players, and I know it’s kind of a meme after how many times I popped myself last night but whew

grizzled aspen
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Run either trauma or purg, idc.

sullen forge
grizzled aspen
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After trying trauma in havoc I am genuinely of the opinion that it is better.

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Because you can just say "erm no sweaty" and knock a reaper down from across the room.

hearty nebula
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Yeah lol

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Trauma is funny

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"your walking priveleges have been revoked noob"

grizzled aspen
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The only thing its not consistent on is knocking down ragers while they are running.

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They can be dead center of a full charged blast and still not fall down.

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Its very annoying.

frozen kernel
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Something really funny I noticed

hearty nebula
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Yea you gotta put it in front of them a bit

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cuz

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yknow

frozen kernel
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In those games last night it was ironically a reverse skill curve

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For my performance at least lol

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When I played very overly cautiously with the new build, I unconsciously stole top damage from that shitty veteran with over 630k

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When I started getting way more laissez-faire with the assails in later games trying to pick up the gunner slack is when I got into trouble time and time again

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Also trying to quell with a shotgun will always be a funny joke

frozen crystal
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Yes. I am leaning more and more to flurry/rending trauma than inferno if your team isn’t great. Two psykers, it should be those two staves

frozen kernel
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Trauma is just such ridiculously good CC

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Even if the “crowd” is one bastard who needs to be on the ground

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Bottlenecking enemy Ogryn in doorways is so insanely valuable

mighty root
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Anyone wanna play?

frozen crystal
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Also, if your team can’t deal with density due to increased mass… trauma can clear a way. Usually in premades in this discord I still do inferno though

pliant otter
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Relic blade and revolver combo is growing on me

grizzled aspen
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Now comes the fun question for me, does transparent shield mod work with weapon customization?

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If it doesnt I'll have to disable wc for a bit.

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It does!

remote lark
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frog

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join party

patent patrol
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So I was wondering. I'm an Ironhelm THammer enjoyer (yes I know). And I was wondering, what build should I run that on? Should I go crit or martyrdom or

grizzled aspen
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Ij.

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It covers the weaknesses of thammer, that being mobility.

grizzled aspen
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Right hand keystone.

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People call it "momentum" (thats not what its called)

patent patrol
north sedge
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Either marty or ij, crit bad on hammer

grizzled aspen
patent patrol
grizzled aspen
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It does significantly more than what the tooltip lets on.

patent patrol
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what ult should I go with and all that

grizzled aspen
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Path like normal?

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Tknives, bene, fotf, IJ.

patent patrol
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tbh

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First time using that

grizzled aspen
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It's likely the same exact build youre using, but not martyrdom.

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It's the same cookie cutter one every regular recommends for newcomers.

patent patrol
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or heavily outdated

grizzled aspen
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This.

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Do this.

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IJ does significantly more than the tooltip says it does.

patent patrol
grizzled aspen
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@frozen kernel wake up, we got Gale and Lumii on rn.

patent patrol
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on my martyr build

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I don't even go right tree like at all

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I go into it a bit but not much

grizzled aspen
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This is with enhanced descriptions mod, telling you what things actually do.

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What matters here isnt damage or attack speed, its the dodge effects.

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They keep your hammer from being too heavy to move around.

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(you have 3 dodges, spend em wisely)

patent patrol
grizzled aspen
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Tknives let you snipe specialists, twbs keeps you from getting stunned out of a charged heavy, bene is bene, fotf is fotf, second wind is your toughness generation and goes with good balance, duellist, and IJ...

#

It's literally the same thing, but you path to martyr and dont take purge or anoint at the top.

copper hawk
#

Gooby gibber flibber womp

copper hawk
#

LOL

#

Imagine working

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
#

I can’t throw ass for a living, I lack substantial ass

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

What r u implying.

frozen kernel
#

Life could be easier if I didn’t have to commute

grizzled aspen
#

Well now we have to find a fourth.

#

Smh.

#

No little chuddie book slave...

frozen kernel
#

Im gojng to eat a box of staples

copper hawk
#

5 lil chuddies jumpin on the bed

remote lark
#

i'm almost done cooking

#

sorr yfor the delay

#

lol

#

i was just afk in morningstar

patent patrol
#

So I could get anoint and purge + either something else or the cooldown reduction

grizzled aspen
grizzled aspen
remote lark
#

purg psyker or zealot

grizzled aspen
#

Also martyrs purpose is not worth it.

#

It's 1% hp lost to 1% cdr.

#

I.e. youd have to eat a crusher overhead to get your ability back in one go.

remote lark
#

the point of martyrs purpose is to get a free ability cast off of until death

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah that is it.

#

Nothing else.

remote lark
#

which is, even if u use until death off cd

copper hawk
#

Yo mama's purpose

remote lark
#

like 10x less cdr than the other 2 options

#

noobca

#

go away

#

:(

grizzled aspen
#

Cacatrices...

remote lark
#

oh wait

#

cica do you wanna do havoc with us

#

c:

copper hawk
#

No thanks

remote lark
#

hateca

grizzled aspen
#

Cica doesnt like you remember?

#

:3

remote lark
#

:(

patent patrol
copper hawk
remote lark
#

hate me cause they aint me

remote lark
copper hawk
#

Thank allah

#

Wallahi..

sterile basalt
grizzled aspen
#

Hold on.

remote lark
#

fatshrak!

patent patrol
vague depot
patent patrol
#

I have 30 points.

vague depot
#

I place bubble when people tell me to and I start screaming when it goes down

grizzled aspen
vague depot
#

I shoot flames

#

I can look behind me sometimes

patent patrol
#

I go right three, then left, then middle for martyrdom.

grizzled aspen
vague depot
#

North America

#

Easy

#

East

grizzled aspen
#

Ok well that makes this easier.

patent patrol
vague depot
#

You doing it rn?

grizzled aspen
remote lark
#

we're doing it in like 30min

#

im getting my food out the oven

#

then im gonna eat

#

then we can all play

grizzled aspen
#

A heavy headshot will bonk them out of combo so you don't get eaten.

copper hawk
#

W yo mama !

remote lark
#

we're not doing m yahvoc to start with though

#

since frogs on a ogry nfor the first time

grizzled aspen
remote lark
#

we gonna do someone else

#

bruh

remote lark
#

🫃

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah that's you bro.

copper hawk
#

If u dont dmg mog then all frog w ogryn

grizzled aspen
#

Anyway.

copper hawk
#

Diagnose u w terminal skissue

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Play pickaxe

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It's baby easy mode

grizzled aspen
#

Shield tickles my brain in such a perfect way that I'm going to be untouchable if I keep my team alive.

twin wagon
grizzled aspen
#

Especially bc I've got fnp.

copper hawk
#

That was a havoc 40 bigj

#

The scoreboard i posted

#

Pickaxe is totally fine

#

Kars w slaught and hter with a heavy hitter build

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah no Lumii can show you why I don't play ogryn.

twin wagon
#

Havoc pickaxe requires a lot of brainpower, it's nod baby easy mode

copper hawk
#

It's p easy baby mode

grizzled aspen
#

It was absolutely shameful but you can expect less than nothing out of me on this godforsaken ham planet.

twin wagon
copper hawk
#

Steal my build frog

#

I posted the scoreboard bigj

#

I carried

twin wagon
#

Looks carried

#

lots of lesser damage

copper hawk
#

Wat

#

Im the ogryn

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

I had 300k+ more damage than the purg psyker

twin wagon
#

Easy director too

copper hawk
frozen kernel
#

I said I can be commanded like RTS AI, and Frog was like “Just glue yourself to my ass” so I’ve been doing that

#

Use your bot commands, 4head

sullen forge
#

Bro is playing the summoner from terraria

frozen kernel
#

Did you learn nothing from the Spanish lady calling us baby

copper hawk
#

Almost 3 million worth in damage

#

Bro will make as many excuses as he can

#

Hit me w another

twin wagon
#

We've had worse on our group, Borovian is better anyway

copper hawk
#

Im sincerely sorry 4 ur skissue

#

Holy ego batman

sullen forge
#

Kars exists to make Boro feel obsolete

twin wagon
#

Still doesn't make pickaxe "easy"

sullen forge
#

I hate to say it chat

copper hawk
#

This is to say pickaxe is fine in high havoc

#

I used the kars

#

Kars has everything

frozen kernel
#

Wielding a flamer in Havoc 34

“Can one of you mentally deficient fleshbags deal with the gunners?”

kills 3 scabs

“Good job baby terrific”

twin wagon
#

Been fine and been easy are not mutually exclusive American

copper hawk
#

Great single target, fast heavies, tons of horde damage and cleave

#

Oh he's callin out me bein an American

frozen kernel
#

Me sitting there with 12HP and until death on CD: BlushOpossum

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

It's what I used

twin wagon
#

It lacks the Boro exploit as well

grizzled aspen
#

For starters rock doesn't scale well in havoc.

copper hawk
#

This is to show that ogryn pickaxe is babymode

twin wagon
#

Cleave stacking for special cc

grizzled aspen
#

You also don't get soften them up.

copper hawk
#

I use rock for the left side pathing

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

U could take soften and drop some of the coherency talents

#

I wanted the left side talent u get w rock that gives u +25% impact

grizzled aspen
#

Cica do you know where soften them up is?

copper hawk
#

It's just my copy/paste for normal gameplay

twin wagon
copper hawk
#

Frog you can take impact and soften them up

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Cant*

twin wagon
#

Even the build has to be bait

copper hawk
#

Simultaneously

copper hawk
#

Amd carried a match w it

#

It's totally gine

#

It's mindless

twin wagon
#

Doesn't remove the fact it's NOT baby mode

copper hawk
#

This dude is so weird man

#

Lmfao

grizzled aspen
#

Cica I'm saying you can path through nuke and still have the same amount of points with a better talent than 25% impact.

twin wagon
#

NA folk are weird

copper hawk
#

Calls me an American like it's an insult

#

Hurr durr deez en ayh ppl r weird

#

Every1 in chat but u rn is NA

#

Jesus dude what is with the ego trippers lately oh my god

#

If you're not going to help frog with a build and instead be a dick then fuck off

grizzled aspen
#

Like, soften them up synergizes so well with everything, especially considering you're taking bleed heavies.

twin wagon
#

Go go gatchet Na projection

copper hawk
#

Please and thank you

#

Yah id take soften

#

And I'd not use rock

#

The build is to show ur totslly fine even being suboptimal

grizzled aspen
#

Also don't need the right node on heavy hitter, and you don't need lynchpin when brace exists.

copper hawk
#

Another thing u might find funny

grizzled aspen
#

Dorn sent me Reginalds h40 video and you can literally stand in gas with the brace toughness talent and not take any damage.

copper hawk
#

Im NOT usin the brace talent lil blud

frozen kernel
spare dome
#

yea gas still buffs your toughness regen

spare dome
#

instead of nerfing it lmao

frozen kernel
#

Is Havoc vet just point and click adventure time?

copper hawk
#

Due to being a gigantic target for gunners

#

Trust me

#

It's so miserable man lmfak

#

Stay in hordes or get gunned down by single scab stalkers

copper hawk
#

I looooooove batter

kind hedge
#

How to make the heavy sword Mk9 good again?

twin wagon
hard nexus
#

BigJ is pretty consistently like this

#

pretty sure he just baits constantly

grizzled aspen
twin wagon
#

For once it ain't, pickaxe ain't baby mode, we have an entire class called zealot for that

#

And as he himself just said, you suffer when no horde can be massacred

kind hedge
copper hawk
hard nexus
#

its very easy

frozen kernel
# grizzled aspen Wdym?

Had a momentary brain lag moment and thought survivalist gave us grenades, not ammo. Disregard

hard nexus
#

heavy heavy heavy heavy

copper hawk
hard nexus
#

2 power blessings

#

or a power and a cleave blessing for high havoc

twin wagon
kind hedge
#

Oh I’ve asked 3 times ur right

median steeple
#

MORE POWER BLESSINGS

grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

but

#

i dont really care

#

lmfao

twin wagon
#

You responded

copper hawk
#

This is the safe one

grizzled aspen
#

The safe one.

#

Yeah that one.

copper hawk
#

Drop bistol for flamer

#

Or bolter

grizzled aspen
#

But with flamer.

twin wagon
#

Jokes aside, no, dont suggest someone with Ogry positioning issues learning to use pickaxe

copper hawk
#

@kind hedge do u need help w hs

twin wagon
#

because they just gonna go horizontal

grizzled aspen
twin wagon
#

I'm sure Fruuug

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
#

I just... suck at melee with ogryn outside of shield.

hard nexus
#

i dont remember

grizzled aspen
#

:3

twin wagon
#

I saw the clip staregryn

copper hawk
median steeple
copper hawk
#

Frog

twin wagon
#

I remember the clip

copper hawk
#

How u play

#

Stay in middle of pack

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

Walk forward

#

Aggro enemies

hard nexus
#

which is when u out damaged me

copper hawk
#

Fall back a bit

#

It lots of armor fall vack a lot

#

Get into open areas

#

Push attack a lot on armor

#

That's about it

grizzled aspen
#

Cica, I know how to position.

copper hawk
#

U position a bit differently w the pickaxe

frozen kernel
kind hedge
#

It won’t let me post it

copper hawk
#

You dont have the benefit of being able to block bulleta

median steeple
grizzled aspen
#

I just have a habit of turning my brain completely off when using anything that isn't shield.

copper hawk
#

Bullets*

#

Or a wide stagger range

#

It changes a bit

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Think of yourself as a thunderhammer zealot and play like that

hard nexus
kind hedge
#

Yeah

grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

oh

#

also

#

cica

median steeple
#

I'm gonna waterboard you

hard nexus
#

i found a cheat 2 level up everything in drg

#

so

grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

we can play that now

#

because i dont have to slog through the aids

copper hawk
#

..

#

Yipee !!

#

Ive been wantin 2 play drg

hard nexus
kind hedge
#

76 light, 342 Heavy
80/80 dmg
80/80 def
60/60 cleave target
80/80 First Target
80/80 Cleave Dmg
+25% against Maniacs
+25% against Unyielding
4 Headtaker
4 Thrust

copper hawk
#

Again

copper hawk
#

Run flakiac

hard nexus
#

yarp

copper hawk
#

Drop thrust

#

Take deathblow

grizzled aspen
#

Change thrust to deathblow.

frozen kernel
kind hedge
hard nexus
#

wait hsword has thrust

#

?!??!?!

copper hawk
frozen kernel
#

Suffer (you’ll be ok)

kind hedge
#

I thought defense helped with dodge

copper hawk
#

It's worthless

copper hawk
#

It does nothing

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

It slightly reduces dodge distance between 60 and 80

#

Like

hard nexus
#

2%

kind hedge
#

Ooooh

copper hawk
#

A tiny amount

kind hedge
#

Ty

frozen kernel
#

Darktide Randomizer

copper hawk
#

The drop in damage between first target is tremendous

#

You NEED deathblow

grizzled aspen
#

Banx what if I said this is my teaching method for for honor?

copper hawk
#

Deathblow is what makes hs9 a monster of a weapon

#

Deathblow lets you OHK up to 5 of any non ogryn enemy

frozen kernel
grizzled aspen
#

Force you to touch everything in the game a little bit and randomly make you play certain things so it forces you to play better and break bad habits before they form.

frozen kernel
#

You learn strengths and weaknesses so you whinge less about “grrr this champ is bullshit”

copper hawk
#

How it works is that if your first target damage would kill ane ney it does and carries the damage to the next enemy

#

Each enemy hit and killed w dblow takes First Target damage

#

So you cant dump first target

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
#

But

copper hawk
#

This means u can kill 5 ragers in one hit

kind hedge
#

So this sword is half decent with cleave target being 60? Or trash

frozen kernel
#

I should try new things

copper hawk
#

All u need is dblow

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

High damage and first target

#

Until u get a perfect sword

grizzled aspen
#

Db gunker is the first step.

kind hedge
#

Oh I did that the moment u said to do it lol

copper hawk
#

Which is dump defences

frozen kernel
#

So I’m sticking with the gunker stuffs until I get more comfortable, then onto the next challenge

copper hawk
#

Then yah

#

Use the heavy sword 9

twin wagon
#

Could always run this, outside of corruption meming you can replace fnp dump point into smash em for better sustain on cleavess experience

If you want dive potential keep it as is, if you want a decent fps increase change the bleed

Through testing after the weirdgryn said it does nothing, it reduces damage enough to dive into stalker groups and even take 1.2-1.6 (depending on angle) seconds of gunner fire, aslong as you are charging through enemies

copper hawk
#

Its heavy 1 is a strikedown (for single target)

kind hedge
#

Ty

grizzled aspen
#

copper hawk
#

And then it loops witb horizontal heavies

twin wagon
#

Shameless plug to Branx users foe sharing their time with me

copper hawk
#

Use your special attack to loop back into heavy 1

frozen kernel
copper hawk
#

Ill post some clips so u see how to play

#

1 sec

hard nexus
#

when i learned that

#

i was

#

sad

frozen kernel
#

I learned that veteran was so fucking easy and there was no excuse

twin wagon
grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
#

Yeah I’d imagine lol

grizzled aspen
#

Especially because Im making you run ilas.

copper hawk
grizzled aspen
#

Hope you can hit headshots!

copper hawk
#

U saw it 2 cut through

twin wagon
copper hawk
#

Have u tried 2 saw a tree down w an axe

#

U chop w an axe

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Now u zee..

#

:3

grizzled aspen
#

I have already cooked the build.

#

It is excellent.

frozen kernel
twin wagon
#

Nooooo

frozen kernel
#

But even with tknives

grizzled aspen
#

You shit out crits like a mf and can't take ranged damage at all if you hit your shots.

copper hawk
copper hawk
#

For armor

grizzled aspen
#

Gale said I burnt it lol.

hard nexus
twin wagon
#

Max your vet size, thank me later

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Ur chopping with tiny little needles essentially

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

A revd heavy is the saw

twin wagon
#

bad head angle

delicate shadow
#

tbh if you're not shortmaxxing idk what you're doing

copper hawk
#

Not with the 13 u dont

hearty nebula
copper hawk
#

Or the 4

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
remote lark
#

@grizzled aspen @sullen forge

copper hawk
#

They just whack

remote lark
#

i'm back

grizzled aspen
#

That's literally how chords work.

hard nexus
#

look i tup

copper hawk
#

Nop

#

I know how they work

hearty nebula
#

that's what

copper hawk
#

Im saying the saw saws more slowly than a chop

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

Whereas a chop cuts deeper per hit like ana xe would

remote lark
grizzled aspen
#

And yet I remain unkissed...

hearty nebula
#

it's ok i'll kiss women too

#

can't leave them out

copper hawk
#

I use axe as an example because that's what a falchion is meant to replicate

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

It's a chopping weapon

frozen kernel
twin wagon
#

Oh frug, remember pickaxe and Ogryn in general can hit over bulwark shields

hearty nebula
#

fuck yall reacting this way for

copper hawk
#

And yes, historically falchions were used to chop through steep

hearty nebula
#

yall know better at this point

copper hawk
#

If we're using the steel argument havr you tried to chainsaw through steel with a stihl saw ?

#

It doesnt work. It dulls the blades for one, and it doesnt cut properly

hard nexus
hearty nebula
#

also

copper hawk
#

Itswhy you use angle grinders or other grinders to use friction through steel

twin wagon
copper hawk
#

That's y im saying with a chainsaw per whack, like with the chord 4 and 13s, you're whacking the enemy w a saw

frozen kernel
copper hawk
#

Like a chop

hearty nebula
#

turns out one of my favorite robot character designers made a like template body.... so i might spend a few weeks making a new robor....

copper hawk
#

A saw needs to saw through

delicate shadow
#

chainsaws are kinda hot garbage for anything that isn't wood

copper hawk
#

Aka u pull the trigger and let the chain cut by runninf blades through something for a bit

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

So it makes sense

hearty nebula
copper hawk
#

And the hs 9 takes a lot of chops

twin wagon
#

Everyone knows the only tinny ones are spark heads

copper hawk
#

Which makes sense too

delicate shadow
hard nexus
frozen kernel
#

B-because

hearty nebula
#

cuz ur noob aquino...

frozen kernel
#

Because

hearty nebula
#

u dont even play zealot...

frozen kernel
#

fuck

hearty nebula
#

noob

delicate shadow
copper hawk
twin wagon
#

Zealot is a crutch atm

copper hawk
#

Pookling

hearty nebula
#

mpreg react aquino

#

NOW

#

tourists not allowed

copper hawk
#

When u whack something with the saw u only chop into it as far as the individual blades stick out

delicate shadow
copper hawk
#

That's why i said you're whacking them w lil needles

delicate shadow
#

game is powercrept to shit

copper hawk
#

Look st how long each individual saw tooth is on the chord

twin wagon
#

Paul isn't luckily

copper hawk
#

That's why per chop it's weak against armor

hearty nebula
copper hawk
#

Ur just poking them w the mostly visually blunt chord teeth

hearty nebula
#

double pegleg

twin wagon
#

I will complete my solo Paul havok 40 and consider myself having beaten the Tide of Dark

copper hawk
#

But with weapons that saw on a heavy, like the chaxe, you saw better

delicate shadow
copper hawk
#

Since you're chopping and sawing

hearty nebula
#

double pegleg is dope aesthetic

#

piratemaxxing

#

YARR

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

When they're sawing

twin wagon
#

No double eyepatch Like the salty bug tho

copper hawk
#

But the chord is slighty spinning when you chop

hard nexus
delicate shadow
hard nexus
#

THEY

#

ALWAYS

#

DO

copper hawk
#

The CHORD

#

YES

#

THEY

#

ARE

#

LOOK AT THEM VISUALLY

hard nexus
#

THEY

#

FUCKING

#

"APIWEBHTGAO:WEUIBTIOAUWBTIUTWBV

#

.

copper hawk
#

LOOK AT THEM WHEN UR STANDING STILL AND DONT HAVE THEM REVD

delicate shadow
#

40k lore is so whimsical

copper hawk
#

HEAR THE SOUND OF THE REV SWING AND THE NORMAL SWING

hard nexus
copper hawk
#

RIGHT NOW IN PSYK

#

RIGHT MEOW !!!!