wait no im thinking of another cartoonish yelling meme
#zealot-class
spare talon
modern lintel
wait no im thinking of another cartoonish yelling meme
what a noob now you have to solo hav 40 as penance
grizzled aspen
Average Cole L. (he doesnt have L's this often this is just the type he has)
royal vortex
cole does not have L
copper hawk
U 4got more than just a )
royal vortex
he's just coe now
grizzled aspen
U 4got more than just a )
I wanted to press an apostrophe and I hit enter. :(
spare talon
Average Cole L. (he doesnt have L's this often this is just the type he has)
and i admit them almost immediately
copper hawk
Whatever cole has and doesnt have is COE w me
Nyoohohohoho
Nyaaahahahaha
Nyeeehehehe
modern lintel
grizzled aspen
I think we throw Cica into a volcano.
copper hawk
U r all beneath me..
clever swan
zealot chat is like a forest with many different creatures
hearty nebula
stinkatrices...
copper hawk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUla3YgUHjs&ab_channel=EpicCole
But u played the best part of the game
hushed knoll
I think we throw Cica into a volcano.
Why are you so violent
copper hawk
The copy paste minigame is my favorite part of darktide
I clap whenever i see it
Like a seal
Ar ar ar ar
fleet zealot
jfc
modern lintel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUla3YgUHjs&ab_channel=EpicCole
iv already commented on such heinous actions 
copper hawk
Alon3 w the mpreg react
Siiiigh
Once again
My h8rz thing they sum but they nun..
On foenem grave..
fleet zealot
Alon3 w the mpreg react
🫃
normal wren
Is this english or skibidi?
copper hawk
Skibiiidiii skiiibidiii
Hawk tuah hawk
Skibidi king who givez out blumpkiiinz
Edging and gooning and learnin 2 muuuunt
Driiiippin cheese all over my lunch
fleet zealot
I've had a close encounter of the twenty second kind.
that's when an alien spaceship disappears up your behind
modern lintel
Edging and gooning and learnin 2 muuuunt
explain munting in darktide terms
copper hawk
It's a skibidi word idk what it means
Spooky scary skibidis
Send rizzlers down your gyatt
modern lintel
likely
copper hawk
World of T Shirts did galaxy gas..
modern lintel
copper hawk
I
fleet zealot
copper hawk
Skibidi what u gyatt ?
normal wren
Finna soak
jagged cradle
Skibidi what u gyatt ?
Are you ok cica
grizzled aspen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUla3YgUHjs&ab_channel=EpicCole
For a second there I thought you were about to fall off and die when you dropped after grabbing the scroll.
copper hawk
Are you ok cica
jagged cradle
Maybe you aren’t so bad after all
hearty nebula
cica's just being bumpy weird
cuz they keep getting mpregged...
and cant cope
cuz their DUMM
hybrid helm
Skibidi what u gyatt ?
sullen forge
Truly his best post of all time
grand tangle
fleet zealot
spare talon
hearty nebula
zinc talon
fleet zealot
Oh my GOD
discord 100% iq for making each reaction a phone alert
remember to break what doesn't need to be fixed
zinc talon
opaque island
what the heck even happened to you? at first i thought it was the trapper net but nah you just got stuck on nothin
zinc talon
I think it's the tiny space between the stairs and the wall thing
I had no terrain and just hovered back down the slide
frozen kernel
I think it's the tiny space between the stairs and the wall thing
I’ve died in these nooks
zinc talon
hell of a way to announce a shotgunner pack, that's an absolute arsenal into my ass the one split second I get floated cuz of terrain
and naturally havoc 40 has no chill on ranged
heh the only reason I didn't die faster is cuz the game can only take away your healthbar so quickly
I was 'dead' in two frames of that trapper's net
just too dumbstubborn to realize it
copper hawk
Looks like they used bullets to make you float
visual stream
Looks like a similar issue to what Rolling Steel has going on with the last train car
Got stuck and slid around on collision
visual stream
https://tenor.com/view/die-video-game-run-2d-games-gif-14377450
There's an awesome game called Downwell that uses this same concept but as a roguelike (?)
Limited bullets and you refresh them by landing or stomping an enemy, the bullets make you float
It's yet another Devolver Digital banger
pliant otter
When using relic blade, is it better to use all the especial bar? or just activate/deactivate
fleet zealot
When using relic blade, is it better to use all the especial bar? or just activa...
if you overheat you get locked out
you do not want to be locked out
polar nexus
Switching to another weapon is usually faster than doing it manually
obsidian prairie
Switching to another weapon is usually faster than doing it manually
Loading screen text
fleet zealot
imo i use rampage + leakage, so I edge around 50-90% for maximum power, but other builds like cranial heatsink can let themselves quickly reset down to zero
zinc talon
fleet zealot
Switching to another weapon is usually faster than doing it manually
chorus will also cancel it
zinc talon
didn't realize just how easy it was to achieve unlimited flamer status
polar nexus
I use rampage wrath now 
fleet zealot
didn't realize just how easy it was to achieve unlimited flamer status
haven't you done this before
zinc talon
this everlasting flame blessing is awesome
hah, not since the itemization changes
way back when was just how to use the flamer
obsidian prairie
Everlasting is a neat sidegrade for an utterly pointless 30 second bong rip on flamer
fleet zealot
tbf, the onylt hing that has changed with flamer is overpressure now working on the dot
fleet zealot
Everlasting is a neat sidegrade for an utterly pointless 30 second bong rip on f...
everlasting flame zealot going red ammo vs the 1st horde
very great blessing
obsidian prairie
Yarp
fleet zealot
i just go BA OP or BA rending depending on how much i feel like melee'ing crushers
obsidian prairie
I personally dislike everything taller than me
zinc talon
it lasts as long as piety does, and just requires one single kill somewhere in the postal code
obsidian prairie
(And also dislike the Overpressure blaze away antisynergy)
fleet zealot
it lasts as long as piety does, and just requires one single kill somewhere in t...
it's neat, but i really only see bad players use it to waste ammo
zinc talon
I'm not taking every critmax talent I can, I have the group crit bonus instead etc etc
fleet zealot
holding down both mouse buttons
zinc talon
well it works for left click too
and it gives you a shot of fuel back for every enemy the flame hits in that attack
so into a crowd you can easily get positive ammo return with like, 30 or 40% crit
and break even just about all the time
lean cairn
zinc talon
also running this for shiggles
obsidian prairie
and break even just about all the time
On magazine filled %
zinc talon
obsidian prairie
Not total ammo
polar nexus
imo i use rampage + leakage, so I edge around 50-90% for maximum power, but othe...
My god I never read leakage before
hushed knoll
Hi Keet 
fleet zealot
My god I never read leakage before
i hope i didn't mess up the blessings naem cause there is like a ton of them
obsidian prairie
video...show ammo back in tank
It’s spending your reserve
fleet zealot
but it's strength for charge level
hushed knoll
Hello Bandit
obsidian prairie
You are rocketing through your ammo
fleet zealot
hi stan
polar nexus
It's unstable for relic
zinc talon
runnin this chucklefuck on my shock maul further beefs up the impact and stagger etc etc
fleet zealot
have you had quesabirria tacos
obsidian prairie
You should never need everlasting to solve a problem
zinc talon
to the point that I can suppress standard infantry with a single left click
obsidian prairie
runnin this chucklefuck on my shock maul further beefs up the impact and stagger...
Falter doesn’t cross over to ranged
visual stream
I wonder if DoTmaxxing as a build is funny
obsidian prairie
That’s a bad description
Smaul is the only melee with falter
It was a ranged blessing previously
zinc talon
I feel like I'm being gaslit
zinc talon
at this point I resign myself
polar nexus
I wonder if DoTmaxxing as a build is funny
That's called havoc build
visual stream
I feel like I'm being gaslit
I think you're misremembering :^)
zinc talon
yellow damage make number in tank go up
obsidian prairie
Yes
zinc talon
single puff make standard shooter dance
obsidian prairie
But it does so by spending reserve ammo
obsidian prairie
Everlasting is so overkill
It’s funny
Don’t get me wrong
But very impractical
zinc talon
lol okay I knew something crucial was missing to this
zinc talon
yeah the video shows it pull from my reserve and put into my tank
like lucky bullet or whatever the stubber one is called
love that blessing
tepid shoal
Is it just more does the mkii RB feel worse than the mkx?
obsidian prairie
Charmed reload
visual stream
Every class has a way to magically produce bullets except for the magic class
Isn't that a little strange
copper hawk
It's yet another Devolver Digital banger
Troo !!
copper hawk
Thankz 4 lettin me knowe..
tepid shoal
Every class has a way to magically produce bullets except for the magic class
I mean they got staves
tepid shoal
And the best blitzes
visual stream
Ehh not boolet production though
copper hawk
They just added crossbows
zinc talon
Every class has a way to magically produce bullets except for the magic class
counterpoint: through decades of study and the incomprehensible power of my MIND, I can tell bullets stopthat
nogoway
obsidian prairie
(Shock trooper vet)
copper hawk
counterpoint: through decades of study and the incomprehensible power of my **MI...
Yo mama
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-the-matrix-bullets-stop-gun-gif-17396986
Deflector
I should put a caption over that saying that LMAO
copper hawk
Yo mama
polar nexus
Is it just more does the mkii RB feel worse than the mkx?
The mk10 is easier to use
zealous mesa
i just took a heavy eviscerator into auric maelstrom with shred and perfect strike
it was surprisingly useful to have perfect strike cut through 3 maulers
sullen forge
it was surprisingly useful to have perfect strike cut through 3 maulers
Crushers perhaps
If you feel so inclined
zealous mesa
it did go through crushers but it was more like it just didnt get stuck on them
it was noticeable
i doubt it did much damage afterwards but i bet it helps a lot with bruisers too
sullen forge
If you’re running scourge I’d assume you’d be getting benefits out of it
That and I’ve only enabled builds like that when running debuff Ogryn
Cough cough @hard nexus
Idk if you’d want IJ or Blazing
That’s something you should ask meow
But seeing it’s shred perfect
I’d assume IJ?…
grizzled aspen
You can use IJ but methinks you want crit cdr regardless for the attack speed chastise enables you with.
grizzled aspen
And considering the usage of perfect strike, you could feasibly run piety without fear because nothing is wrong with 15/25 bonus crit chance.
grizzled aspen
someone give me a stupid zealot name rq
Why do you want a stupid zealout name?
tawdry leaf
Why do you want a stupid zealout name?
to rename my zealot im bored
grizzled aspen
Just pick something like a reference and roll with it.
lament blaze
grizzled aspen
My zealout is Halflight, after the Spear of the Church's namesake in ds3.
plucky gate
man spear of church was so funny, wish it was in elden ring
grizzled aspen
I just chose it for thematic purposes.
plucky gate
My friend was trying to do his sl1 halflight fight but he left online on.
I had an sl1 character so i went on and tortured him for 2 hours
I was the only one eligible for matchmaking at his level
he couldn't win
grizzled aspen
Zealout, being the religious, pious man or woman that they are, deserves a name befitting their identity.
So I chose the Spear of the Church.
copper hawk
Brynn-the-Felinid sweep..
grizzled aspen
Ew, an abhuman...
copper hawk
grizzled aspen
sullen forge
this fuck ass genre of image
sullen forge
grizzled aspen
pliant otter
Is relic blade superior to combat blade?
misty nova
Yesnt
fleet zealot
Is relic blade superior to combat blade?
apples to bricks
grizzled aspen
Is relic blade superior to combat blade?
Not a fair comparison at all.
fleet zealot
relic is much more comparable to evi, which is mogs entirely
misty nova
fleet zealot
pliant otter
apples to bricks
Which one is the brick
fleet zealot
Which one is the brick
either or
apples to oranges except they aren't similar in the slightest
fleet zealot
knife is just, a high damage high speed finesse weapon, relic blade has tons of cleave, is slower and revolves around proper combo and energy usuage
relic blade has some of the weakest dodges in the game + always dumps mobility
sullen forge
relic is much more comparable to evi, which is mogs entirely
Cyn would like to have a word with you
fleet zealot
Cyn would like to have a word with you
cyn can have as many words as they like
i don't even remember who that is
pliant otter
relic blade has some of the weakest dodges in the game + always dumps mobility
Just experience that first hand rn, its... wack, but these cleaves on hordes is nasty
sullen forge
I like fuck off huge swords so Im using the Rblade
fleet zealot
4 target cap andys when fatshark releases a sword with the same single target but a ton of cleave
sullen forge
but the Evis has its pros over the RBlade
and the Rblade has its pros over the Evis
literally side grades to each other imo
fleet zealot
Just experience that first hand rn, its... wack, but these cleaves on hordes is ...
it's single target is great as well you just need to land weakspots and combo into your stabs and overhead slashes (and an uppercut on mk2 relic)
fleet zealot
but the Evis has its pros over the RBlade
which are
?
that it makes a Shredding noise?
sullen forge
Far more effective single target over Rblade
fleet zealot
no lol
sullen forge
without trading horde clear
sterile basalt
literally side grades to each other imo
Nah, relic blade is overall a lot better
sullen forge
Cap
pliant otter
Also, for curios its hp, toughness, stamina or toughness x2 and stamina?
fleet zealot
relic blade single target is insane if you use your combos
the unyielding damage is comparable to a chaxe, well above an evi
tame sluice
sullen forge
Its because power weapons will always be overpowered as fuck
sterile basalt
The only side grade you can say Evicerator has over relic blade would be
Higher sprint bonus
Can chew through void shields faster
sullen forge
its that simple
final mural
relic blade has the ultimate trump card of it actually being fun to use though
fleet zealot
giving a monstro a mean overhead overhead stab 3 piece combo on relic
final mural
fleet zealot
right to the head
sterile basalt
Far more effective single target over Rblade
Nah it’s not as good as relic blade
fleet zealot
feels proper righteous
sterile basalt
If Evicerator was crit every single hit maybe (?)
But relic blade has high finesse scaling too
fleet zealot
evi has worse finesse than relic blade
pliant otter
Imagine if we could use thrust on the Relic blade
fleet zealot
iirc
sterile basalt
evi has worse finesse than relic blade
Yea
fleet zealot
Imagine if we could use thrust on the Relic blade
doesn't need it tbh, it already has a massive roster
sterile basalt
Relic blade actually gets to (ab)use duellist
pliant otter
But what about more
fleet zealot
we can already get a crusher onetap
tepid shoal
The mk10 is easier to use
That's how I feel
pliant otter
Fr?
sterile basalt
Imagine if we could use thrust on the Relic blade
Wouldn’t make a big difference considering it only has 1 open blessing slot
sullen forge
Relic blade actually gets to (ab)use duellist
And disdain
tepid shoal
Mk2 may have better damage especially for single target
fleet zealot
unless it competes with thammer or helps get a breakpoint, thrust isn't even that good
sullen forge
dont forget that
fleet zealot
see crusher
tepid shoal
But it feels very awkward to use
fleet zealot
plays around way better with slaught skullcrusher, thrust just makes it a discount thammer
pliant otter
Oh I have been using Mk x
fleet zealot
both mks are good
pliant otter
So the other mark can 1 tap crushers?
copper hawk
relic is much more comparable to evi, which is mogs entirely
@hard nexus
Go my minion !!
fleet zealot
Go my minion !!
pliant otter
Testing rn
fleet zealot
Testing rn
you have to start sprinting until your blade is lowered and you'll get a unique heavy
copper hawk
Evis SUCKZ !!
sullen forge
Tf you mean you dont use it
sullen forge
Deleting hordes in the blink of an eye im not passing up on
fleet zealot
more damage every other attack is nice
fleet zealot
Deleting hordes in the blink of an eye im not passing up on
my blade already does that
copper hawk
I must argue for less I MUST !!
sterile basalt
Deleting hordes in the blink of an eye im not passing up on
It’s up to +25% damage on every other hit
pliant otter
It takes half the crushers hp hmmm
fleet zealot
It’s up to +25% damage on every other hit
yea, but relic does get the full value out of it, with no target cap and high minimum damage
pliant otter
why you got so much stam <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Single +3 stamina curio
fleet zealot
It takes half the crushers hp hmmm
activate, sprint, fotf heavy stab
fleet zealot
Single +3 stamina curio
i see carry on
fleet zealot
i think it's a fine node just not something that is needed
sterile basalt
I would rather run desperation over disdain
raw wagon
activate, sprint, fotf heavy stab
It’s important to start charging the sprint attack before pressing fotf, right? I always find fotf interrupts sprint and I get a regular heavy, maybe I’m missing something
fleet zealot
It’s important to start charging the sprint attack before pressing fotf, right? ...
it doesn't interrupt sprint
sterile basalt
relic has so much base stam
Yea, not for relic blade
Just in general
fleet zealot
or well, it doesn't break the unique sprinting heavy relic has
sterile basalt
If a point comes down to disdain of all things I’d rather take desperation
fleet zealot
i forgot if the mk2 PA is good but mk10 PA is just a stab
raw wagon
or well, it doesn't break the unique sprinting heavy relic has
Interesting. It would seem I am, in fact, missing something. Will keep practicing, ty
fleet zealot
nothing too spammable just a nice fuck rager button
pliant otter
What am I doing wrong for the 1 tap
fleet zealot
What am I doing wrong for the 1 tap
one second
also i think i might need to recheck my ram
i'm pretty sure i had 16 before but i forgetti
misty nova
Its because power weapons will always be overpowered as fuck
Lore accurate power vs chainsaw
fleet zealot
but now it's saying 8
zealous mesa
What am I doing wrong for the 1 tap
you didnt proc duellist because you cant maybe
fleet zealot
drain bamage
fleet zealot
you didnt proc duellist because you cant maybe
no you don't need duelist
i'm loading up dt slowly
plucky gate
What am I doing wrong for the 1 tap
idk, is that somehow not a headshot or something?
zealous mesa
hi
misty nova
zealous mesa
i was trying so hard to kill people to proc slaughterer
misty nova
It's my favorite (it sucks)
zealous mesa
but the bleed killed more people than the blade
misty nova
visual stream
When I'm in a pathetic arsenal challenge and my opponent is ogryn melees
zealous mesa
heavies are underwhelming for the windup and it isnt particularly fast so you can't quickly block like the clubs
visual stream
(More bad options than good options)
zealous mesa
the punch is worse than shovel and the maniac damage is missing
it also takes 3 stamina to shove
blocks horrible too
misty nova
Oh the uppercut is more reliable than the straight punch
zealous mesa
shovel punch always drops ragers to the deck like a sack of bricks, this one just staggers them after a windup
misty nova
FS forgot to adjust the straight punch when they buffed enemies stagger threshold
fleet zealot
oh damn i think i need to open up my pc again
zealous mesa
i do like that the uppercuts animation for hitting carapace is funny
misty nova
I still remember throwing bulwarks on the ground with a punch to the back
Wish Cleavers were good
Until then I'll exclusively play Unstoppable Force Thrust Crunch Cleaver 6
(I got no way of dealing with carapace)
zealous mesa
i was using slaughterer savage sweep
zealous mesa
(I got no way of dealing with carapace)
it has that tiny little stab
fleet zealot
What am I doing wrong for the 1 tap
you need perks
zealous mesa
heavy light light
fleet zealot
please forgive my slow loading times
you can also just, charge heavy and follow up with h2
on mk10
and that will also kill it
plucky gate
The pin does mention that you need elites for it
pliant otter
you need perks
Ye, notice it right away, so perks for Rblade would be carapace and unyielding?
misty nova
i was using slaughterer savage sweep
Funny 100+ cleave when both Blessings up
obsidian prairie
@pale spindle
This is their second
I can only remember the first as having a blue PFP
pliant otter
Also during the relic blade special animation it count as blocking?
frozen kernel
Also during the relic blade special animation it count as blocking?
Yes
pliant otter
Well thats nice so I could just activate the thing without worrying about spacing
frozen kernel
Basically don’t try to parry an overhead and you’ll be good, ye
It’s nice for ragers
pliant otter
Noted
zealous mesa
Funny 100+ cleave when both Blessings up
in auric i bring wrath savage sweep on the dclaw to make it sort of viable
fleet zealot
and dodge back
you can space out ragers once you get in their deadzone so to speak
close enough they won't slide closer to you, but far away enough their attacks whiff but yours still connect
what is this ferret looking at
uneven galleon
what is this ferret looking at
This fr looked like a jail cell
fleet zealot
in auric i bring wrath savage sweep on the dclaw to make it sort of viable
that
that makes it worse
not better
just sub in rampage lol
36% strength (the tooltip says damage but it's strength)
zealous mesa
36% strength (the tooltip says damage but it's strength)
I thought it was just damage
because on its own savage sweep cannot activate in havoc 40
after one or two hits suddenly you're hitting 5 guys instead of 2
Feels a little more useful
fleet zealot
just go wrath rampage
zealous mesa
But if rampage is strength I'll take it
fleet zealot
I thought it was just damage
It hasn't been damage for like 2 years now
north sedge
fleet zealot
when it was bugged it was giving both power(str now) and dmg, they fixed it to only give power
zealous mesa
I see
Good to know
For a long time before havoc I took hammerblow
And savage sweep
It would stagger lock a whole crowd
fleet zealot
It would stagger lock a whole crowd
visual stream
HAMMERBLOW DCLAW
pale spindle
sullen forge
HAMMERBLOW DCLAW
HAMMERBLOW SKULLCRUSHER DCLAW
misty nova
what should I change
Mk4 to 5
slow brook
whats the best roll for the heavy eviscerator?
misty nova
Dodges go brrr
visual stream
what should I change
Replace it with an Ironhelm ez
visual stream
HAMMERBLOW SKULLCRUSHER DCLAW
The best part of skullcrusher existing on dclaw is that it makes no sense at all
The entire gimmick of dclaw requires that enemies AREN'T staggered
drowsy steppe
I did run a rampage skullcrusher claw for a while
visual stream
Well maybe a little sense for trash clear but that's mostly it for consistent value I would think
copper hawk
My friend..
sullen forge
Its so fucking funny
the anti-DClaw
I used it and its so
fucking goofy
its bad but in a funny way
misty nova
whats the best roll for the heavy eviscerator?
Mobility or Cleave Targets at 60
Preferably mobility
slow brook
thought so, always hate it when it keeps giving the same roll over and over
misty nova
Unless you're going mk3 then you should dump mobility
zealous mesa
The entire gimmick of dclaw requires that enemies AREN'T staggered
horde clear
followup attacks after parry
2 have a light strikedown one has a heavy
mk1 with side to side heavies its good for dealing with big groups
copper hawk
Mk1 is the worst one no
Cuz of the parry
@spare talon y
Ou
Higher mammal
Which one is the worst dclaw
patent patrol
I haven't played in a MINUTE. I see the new perk/blessing rework is interesting. 2 questions. 1: What's the best perks for the ironhelm thammer? I know the best blessings are thrust and slaughterer. 2: How does one increase weapon stats.
patent patrol
What the heck is sainted?
zealous mesa
Cuz of the parry
parries are the same on each one
vague depot
I haven't played in a MINUTE. I see the new perk/blessing rework is interesting....
increase stats by empowering at hadron, need to upgrade weapon mastery for that
visual stream
I haven't played in a MINUTE. I see the new perk/blessing rework is interesting....
Carapace and flak imo
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> y
mk1
vague depot
weapon mastery is just exp for weapons
visual stream
Carapace is non-negotiable
spare talon
its moveset is just dogshit
vague depot
sainted is a modded rarity for weapons that hit max power (500)
patent patrol
Carapace and flak imo
no longer flak and unyielding?
copper hawk
It is answered
visual stream
Because you can very easily hit carapace one shots now
spare talon
it only has 1 overhead, and its a light
zealous mesa
Cuz of the parry
mk1 is the "worst" because it only has vanguard heavies, the parry is the same
spare talon
the heavies are exclusively sweeps
patent patrol
Because you can very easily hit carapace one shots now
You can?
spare talon
which the other marks also can do
visual stream
Yep yep
sterile basalt
The entire gimmick of dclaw requires that enemies AREN'T staggered
Parry is ok stagger which enables skullcrusher buff the follow-up attacks
It’s not very good most of the time tho
copper hawk
mk1 is the "worst" because it only has vanguard heavies, the parry is the same
Yah
That's i meant
copper hawk
The vanguard parry
zealous mesa
you can do this with any mark
patent patrol
DANG.
zealous mesa
this is also always very fun to do
visual stream
You can?
10 IJ stacks on a full thrust H3, reducing or removing those numbers with more slaught stacks
I usually throwing knife before I hit to get the ball rolling
zealous mesa
i prefer the mk1 because i am usually slicing through hordes with it
spare talon
this only really requires fotf and duellist active to one shot
it just procs duellist before the hit lands in the psyk for some reason
copper hawk
I haven't played in a MINUTE. I see the new perk/blessing rework is interesting....
Ironhelm
spare talon
but thats not a hard requirement to meet in a real game
copper hawk
:<
zealous mesa
the parry and light overhead can take care of everything
except you know
mass groups of crushers
patent patrol
How this lookin? This was my first ever thammer. I know first target is a BIT below average but I figured with the new system I could buff that up pretty good?
grand tangle
can you do it without fury?
zealous mesa
can you do it without fury?
no
grand tangle
oof
zealous mesa
but it still does a sizeable chunk
spare talon
can you do it without fury?
its the difference of 3600 vs 360
all of the work is being put in from the melee rending from fotf
zealous mesa
with decent timing it just takes like 10 seconds of baiting
spare talon
since dclaw has abysmal adms against armor
patent patrol
I forgot I was saving this THammer for the system change cause the perks sucked but the stats were goated
finally I have my really good hammer.
visual stream
So the thammers are good now?
Ironhelm is amazing but not for havoc
Crucis gets bad in Havoc too to my knowledge
patent patrol
Crucis gets bad in Havoc too to my knowledge
I don't play havoc. I don't even dare to touch maelstroms.
zealous mesa
i take unarmored and bonus stamina or block efficiency on the sword
patent patrol
I'm a very casual player.
zealous mesa
i like to kill bruisers
copper hawk
I don't play havoc. I don't even dare to touch maelstroms.
:<
Take any perks i guess
It do not matter
solar mountain
Thunder hammers stink hard outside of boss killing.
grand tangle
havok is kinda imba and the whole meta revolving around flames seems unintentional and likely to be patched out
copper hawk
If normal board non maels
tepid shoal
Ironhelm is amazing but not for havoc
What are the combos for iron helm?
patent patrol
Thunder hammers stink hard outside of boss killing.
Ironhelm's my goat and I won't stop loving it.
grand tangle
or rather, 90% of your teams dmg coming from a zealot with a flamethrower is definitely unintentional
tepid shoal
Horde and single?
solar mountain
I wish it was good. I like funny hammer but it just doesn’t do it for me.
copper hawk
or rather, 90% of your teams dmg coming from a zealot with a flamethrower is def...
Or a purg psyker
grizzled aspen
Thunder hammers stink hard outside of boss killing.
Wrong, but you are entitled to your opinion.
copper hawk
Horde and single?
Horde
patent patrol
anyway so what's with the dueling sword and relic blade? I know dueling sword was on like Psyker n stuff. Is it for like crit builds or a completely different one? And what does the relic blade do?
copper hawk
It's the same dueling sword
Still broken
Relic blade is a force greatsword
Check pins for build
solar mountain
Wrong, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Show me some videos of people doing havoc 40 with thunder hammer
patent patrol
Still broken
I don't know what build it would be on for zealot.
Is it a crit/finnesse weapon or
tepid shoal
anyway so what's with the dueling sword and relic blade? I know dueling sword wa...
Relic blade just does absurd damage, fastest horde clear melee for zealot and pretty good single target damage with the charges
copper hawk
I don't know what build it would be on for zealot.
A piety build
Or ij
It doesnt matter
It's broken
grizzled aspen
Show me some videos of people doing havoc 40 with thunder hammer
That's a very niche argument youve got there, bro.
copper hawk
Precog uncanny
solar mountain
I guess i could just look myself
copper hawk
Uncanny thrust
patent patrol
Relic blade just does absurd damage, fastest horde clear melee for zealot and pr...
What build does that go on.
copper hawk
Thrust precog
grizzled aspen
Such a shame I won't indulge it. :)
tepid shoal
Well
copper hawk
Riposte uncanny
tepid shoal
Check pins
fleet zealot
Show me some videos of people doing havoc 40 with thunder hammer
shock and awe
tepid shoal
But
copper hawk
Million ways to skin a cat
tepid shoal
Mkx is usually the better choice
tepid shoal
I would use that one first at the very least
copper hawk
Mk ii has slower horde clear but the uppercut is busted
tepid shoal
Just use it with piety and charges
solar mountain
I’m using a brand new hard game mode to gauge how good a weapon is, sorry I guess?
copper hawk
THammer is like
B tier imo
Dueling sword does what it does but better
With more mobility and speed
misty nova
I’m using a brand new hard game mode to gauge how good a weapon is, sorry I gues...
Bad mindset
grizzled aspen
^
grizzled aspen
Havocs are an entirely different ball game with a different set of rules to play by.
copper hawk
It's fun to run bleh wpns
grizzled aspen
You cannot fairly judge weapons because of increased hitmass and emp's fading light.
visual stream
Thunder hammers stink hard outside of boss killing.
Loud incorrect buzzer
misty nova
The only good weapons according to havoc is dueling sword and inferno staff
grizzled aspen
And trauma and flamer.
patent patrol
Anyway what build should I run the ironhelm on now? I was running it on martyrdom but
grizzled aspen
Infinite scaling vs horde density go brrr.
solar mountain
It’s a mindset, attaching whatever you’re thinking to me is just wack bro. I’m a vessel.
patent patrol
idk if that's still viable
visual stream
@patent patrol I should also mention that maulers can be one shotted with no stacks of anything now
Just do overhead full thrust
grizzled aspen
It’s a mindset, attaching whatever you’re thinking to me is just wack bro. I’m a...
Then stop being a vessel and think for yourself. :)
copper hawk
I agree w clognar..
grizzled aspen
Noobtrices...
misty nova
grizzled aspen
All Cica knows is hsword 9 and revolver.
copper hawk
Ppl get their dopamine off to arguin
solar mountain
Dont argue just shitpost
grizzled aspen
Lier...
grizzled aspen
U lie...
uneven galleon
It’s a mindset, attaching whatever you’re thinking to me is just wack bro. I’m a...
Oh no this is clearly ragebait
grizzled aspen
Bumpy weird...
grizzled aspen
Spotify if you play little slice of heaven again I'm going to firebomb your headquarters.
copper hawk
patent patrol
remind me, what's the best perks for ironhelm shotgun? Deathspitter and both barrels?
obsidian prairie
remind me, what's the best perks for ironhelm shotgun? Deathspitter and both bar...
Or Manstopper Scattershot
copper hawk
Noobtrices...
But i agree
patent patrol
Or Manstopper Scattershot
what does what? scattershot for like crit stuff?
copper hawk
It got powercrept massively
THammer feels bleh
Especially w its maniac damage issues
obsidian prairie
what does what? scattershot for like crit stuff?
Scattershot to give crit chance to proc Manstopper
grizzled aspen
Powercrept by relic blade? Yeah, absolutely. Bad? Absolutely not.
patent patrol
Scattershot to give crit chance to proc Manstopper
ah ok. I'm not running it on my crit build so
obsidian prairie
ah ok. I'm not running it on my crit build so
Your first idea is what I run, I was just giving you options
grizzled aspen
The good/badness of thammer depends on the user, imo.
patent patrol
Your first idea is what I run, I was just giving you options
Fair
grizzled aspen
If you actually know what youre doing, its an excellent weapon.
copper hawk
What it does is covered by other weapons, one of which does so better with a bunch of other stupid shit
Like instant stagger button
grizzled aspen
(run a laspistol in your pocket, youll thank me later)
copper hawk
DS5 has better ttk on crusher packs than the thammer lol
And can one or two shot ragers
And has better horde clear... for some reason
Kid named keep swinging
solar mountain
Why did they give everyone the dueling sword?
solar mountain
Everyone and their grandma is running it and STILL DYING
copper hawk
Now it's busted for everybody
I had a convo w an oomf about it earlier but
Someone was talking about DT being an easy game and I think I generally agree
Once again, it's not black and white "easy" or "hard", whatever that means
But kind of a gray easy
solar mountain
looked up “dueling” +1000 references
grizzled aspen
Everyone and their grandma is running it and STILL DYING
Because 90% of the playerbase is hardstuck malice.
copper hawk
It's where a build cant really carry you much
So you see ppl running good weapons, like a meta blessing ds4, dying constantly
visual stream
Especially w its maniac damage issues
It has maniac damage issues?
copper hawk
It has maniac damage issues?
Yep
solar mountain
Because 90% of the playerbase is hardstuck malice.
Reality
visual stream
Agree for rager packs if that's what you mean
visual stream
Works purty gud
uneven galleon
"It's not about the weapon, but the man."
copper hawk
Frown emoji !
But i was sayin w an oomf that there's like
3 cornerstone qualities to make a good player
A good build, mechanical skill, and gamesense
tepid shoal
How does the pinning fire blessing work for bolter?
copper hawk
Further up u go if any of these are lacking no matter how well the others compensate u'll suffer
copper hawk
How does the pinning fire blessing work for bolter?
Staggered enemies take slightly more damage
It was nerfed from the ye olde days
tepid shoal
Yeah people say it's meta
copper hawk
The meta blessings for bolter are puncture and shattering
tepid shoal
But it doesn't seem that good
tepid shoal
Yeah shattering or the +10% damage per shot on single target seem best
copper hawk
Or enemies in general
visual stream
Bolter not benefit against maniac
Bolter benefit against both
visual stream
I have two multitools in my pocket
tepid shoal
I like high cleave weapons
grizzled aspen
How does the pinning fire blessing work for bolter?
Stagger targets = more strength, which is damage and cleave.
5% per target, stacking 5 times.
At t4.
grizzled aspen
tanner
There's where you went wrong.
tepid shoal
Yeah I'll replace it with shattering
grizzled aspen
Shattering puncture is BIS for zealout, havocs call for cavalcade puncture.
tepid shoal
Yeah some of his takes are bad
copper hawk
He's a mechanically good player but he doesn't know half as much as he says he does about the game
Like at all
grizzled aspen
Because you can get 100% crit rate ~3 bullets in.
copper hawk
Another reminder that aggression and saying something authoritatively doesnt necessarily make it true
tepid shoal
Bolter is viable in havoc?
sterile basalt
It has maniac damage issues?
0.5x ADM vs maniac on light atks
Cannot stagger ragers in 1 hit without grievous wounds (for heavy atk)
copper hawk
Bolter is viable in havoc?
Imho there's like two schools of zealot thought for hav 40
DPS and Chorus
visual stream
0.5x ADM vs maniac on light atks
Cannot stagger ragers in 1 hit without grievous...
Why is anyone trying to use hammer lights for ragers
copper hawk
If ur running DPS i recommend taking a bolter
grizzled aspen
Bolter is viable in havoc?
Yes but you have to be very sparing with your ammo.
visual stream
That would never be my first thought 
sterile basalt
Why is anyone trying to use hammer lights for ragers
Because they’re the single target atk outside of empowered atk
And empowered only hit 1 guy at a time
grizzled aspen
Flamer is better for book slave, bolter is better for dps, but flamer is also a viable alternative for dps if youre playing close to your team.
Dps zealout can do goofy things like dive gunners.
visual stream
Good timing means you can use empowered heavies on ragers if you have to because shorter self stun
grizzled aspen
But you gotta be real careful with how much you bite off if you dive gunners.
visual stream
Not ideal because that's part of why the bolter is in the kit but you can do it with minimal or no damage
tepid shoal
I've gotten to like havoc 25 with ogryn but haven't tried it with zealot yet
copper hawk
Frog sayz same thing i say but getz upvote..
grizzled aspen
Bolter also allows you to deal with pus hardened because puncture.
sterile basalt
Frog sayz same thing i say but getz upvote..
Too many messages to separately upvote
grizzled aspen
Frog sayz same thing i say but getz upvote..
I dont get to choose when grubs upvote me smh.
/j
tepid shoal
Bolter also allows you to deal with pus hardened because puncture.
Oh fr?
grizzled aspen
Yeah, pus hardened does not protect anything from DOTs.
tepid shoal
How does pus harden work? They have carapace?
sterile basalt
Oh fr?
Yes & no
Yes as in, it will kill them eventually
No as in, it’s prob not worth the ammo
tepid shoal
Wait nvm
grizzled aspen
And due to the way anoint works, you can boost that bleed damage.
sterile basalt
How does pus harden work? They have carapace?
Affected enemies take at least 50% less ranged damage
tepid shoal
Yeah DoT is goated for pus hardened
sterile basalt
It scales based on havoc level
tepid shoal
Affected enemies take at least 50% less ranged damage
It feels wayyyy more than that
sterile basalt
It feels wayyyy more than that
Yes because it’s a higher number at lower havoc ranks
tepid shoal
But yeah the ogryn has a talent that does +4 bleed per heavy attack
The ogryn honestly isn't too bad at havoc
sterile basalt
At havoc20, pus hardened is 70% less ranged damage (x0.3)
At havoc40, pus hardened is 50% less ranged damage (x0.5)
grizzled aspen
Lumii and I played with a heavy stubber shield ogryn and he was so fucking good.
tepid shoal
It doesn't really have any issues with the increased mass enemies have since it has such gigantic impact
grizzled aspen
His only misplay was overextending in a group of gunners and he got around that by tonking.
tepid shoal
Yeah gotta be real careful
fleet zealot
The ogryn honestly isn't too bad at havoc
they aren't bad at all
tepid shoal
Luckily the taunt with the shield is goated for havoc
sterile basalt
It doesn't really have any issues with the increased mass enemies have since it ...
It doesn’t have issue because ogryn shield’s H2 is infinite cleave
You straight up ignore hitmass as a mechanic
fleet zealot
and karsolas is just, ridic overtuned
tepid shoal
^
tepid shoal
Kars is pretty fun
grizzled aspen
@sterile basalt if I kill an enemy marked by exe stance with DOT does it still refresh or no?
tepid shoal
But H1-H2 is all I know
grizzled aspen
Playing around with the idea of exe boltgun.
tepid shoal
The shield was like the first weapon I used for 200+, hours
sterile basalt
<@366562874039992331> if I kill an enemy marked by exe stance with DOT does it s...
Any highlighted enemy killed by any damage instance from you will refresh it
grizzled aspen
Sick.
tepid shoal
So it kind of crutched me when I started playing more classes
sterile basalt
Playing around with the idea of exe boltgun.
It’s prob the highest damage veteran build
tepid shoal
Lol
grizzled aspen
Im just thinking about some things like bodyshot bps.
sterile basalt
It’s basically what if Gunlugger could kill things outside of ult
sterile basalt
Im just thinking about some things like bodyshot bps.
I got u covered
grizzled aspen
I.e. "can I bodyshot this gunner once and move to my next target."
hard nexus
i doubt it did much damage afterwards but i bet it helps a lot with bruisers too
yah it’s not a lot of damage but it does go through crushers
tepid shoal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1328501531758039060/D...
Oh is the veteran getting an ogrynomicron?
copper hawk
I carried a bunch of randoms w the kars
Recommend kars
For ur first time
It busted
We almost had true survivor..
tepid shoal
1.7% crit rate lol
copper hawk
Grr psykerz..
sterile basalt
Oh is the veteran getting an ogrynomicron?
I’ve had a guide pinned for months
fleet zealot
sterile basalt
This is just porting over to steam and giving it an upgrade
fleet zealot
pfp material yay or nay?
tepid shoal
This is just porting over to steam and giving it an upgrade
Peak
tepid shoal
pfp material yay or nay?
copper hawk
tepid shoal
Go for it
sterile basalt
I can pretty safely say it’s prob more detailed than every other class guide
tepid shoal
I can pretty safely say it’s prob more detailed than every other class guide <:K...
Oh I've seen this before
zealous mesa
make sure to include my crappy devils claw in it ok
fleet zealot
i stoled it
zealous mesa
just shot 8 million people in the head this game
sterile basalt
I'll be glad when it's ported to steam
Wait 5 months
tepid shoal
Real
sterile basalt
I have 42 other weapons to go through
tepid shoal
sterile basalt
I just finished the 2 bolt weapons
Then curios
Then builds
Then havoc related stuff
Maybe penances
tepid shoal
I really wonder what FS will release this year for DT
sterile basalt
U mean Darktide?
sterile basalt
I really wonder what FS will release this year for DT
New weapons & maps
Maybe talent tree expansions like what we saw for psyker
Other stuff, idk
tepid shoal
Oh really
sterile basalt
New havoc modifiers definitely
tepid shoal
What was old Psyker like?
sterile basalt
Ogryn is supposedly getting a talent tree expansion
tepid shoal
Amazing
sterile basalt
What was old Psyker like?
Did u not play before September update this year
tepid shoal
Can't wait for that in November
tepid shoal
Did u not play before September update this year
Yeah I was a Xbox player
Joined in around December 2023
I think
tepid shoal
Huh
sterile basalt
Came with the update to crafting system
sullen forge
We called for a Psyker nerf but Fatshark answered
Psyker buff Psyker buff
Zealot nerf
tepid shoal
Yes swap weapon specialist with Ogryn's lucky bullet they can keep it lol
copper hawk
Zealot nerf
Veteran buff..
sterile basalt
I think veteran just had vanguard swapped to one motion
And skirmisher buff (still dogshit)
sullen forge
Veteran buff..
They really haven't touched the class and the buffs on the nodes that were useless are still useless
so ahem
sterile basalt
The only notable veteran update from that is that one motion + O4B is now a legit pathing and prob the best one for havoc
sullen forge
they would touch it and it would do nothing
copper hawk
Fatshark after a long year of rebalancing their least favorite class 3 times
copper hawk
sterile basalt
IoD buff was substantial
copper hawk
@spare talon
sullen forge
no you dont get it, its still bad
copper hawk
Nit hearin it from u
spare talon
spare talon
sullen forge
sullen forge
That is literally the only situation where the CDR is fucking insanely overpowered on Veteran (Pox hound modifier)
copper hawk
Never have i EVER killed 4 specialists in quick succession yep yep
BRO
HEWWO
???
sullen forge
and I mean like insanely overpowered
copper hawk
WHO DID DAT
copper hawk
That is literally the only situation where the CDR is fucking insanely overpower...
Never have i ever killed 4 specialists in quick succession
fleet zealot
iod was only a buff cause fatshark was too scared that it would make players upset
copper hawk
Never ever never
sullen forge
We need to gut Veteran
fleet zealot
cause evi crew was upset they didn't get their ult every 2 swings
sterile basalt
WHO DID DAT
Cica u should go debate egg on whether veteran is good/bad
sullen forge
and make Zealot the new veteran class
fleet zealot
and then knife crew was getting salty at the leaked +150%/+175% cdr for 4 seconds values
so fatshark said fuck it, and made it +200% so you can have perfect uptime with fotf
because who cares about using abilities well, when you can just spam them
copper hawk
Cica u should go debate egg on whether veteran is good/bad
Who egg
I declare vet best class in game
sullen forge
eggfever
copper hawk
Nop
fleet zealot
psyker is the most loved class
copper hawk
Psyker is glass cannon
sullen forge
JUST GOING TO IGNORE THE MOST BRAINDEAD BROKEN CLASS IN THE GAME??!?!?!?!
fleet zealot
vet is still the strongest
fleet zealot
but psyker is jsut, LOL LETS BUFF THEM AGAIN
sterile basalt
Vet has 50 + 33 reduciton for existing
That’s not how the math works
sullen forge
The purg staff stun locking everything in the game outside of monstros
tepid shoal
Psykers assail is just busted
sullen forge
hmmm yes me smart
copper hawk
Never have i ever no cooldown 6 sec off cooldown for enemies that spawn in 3's
tepid shoal
To some lesser extent scriers gaze
fleet zealot