#zealot-class

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visual stream
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Barrels would be insane

frozen kernel
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Just grabs one and shotputs that shit at the fireteam

visual stream
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Even more beneficial to enemies than they already are kek

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Seriously barrels are more of a hazard than a tool

grizzled aspen
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I have been in this hishock gloriana for under 2 minutes and both a teammate and I have already died to excellent director spawns.

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I got in that little hallway dropdown right as a fucking burgle spawned.

visual stream
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God I hate when that happens

grizzled aspen
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And once I got past it without getting vored I got booped into a bulwark whack and instantly died.

visual stream
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Genuinely an F tier alternate approach just because that is possible

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Rather take my chances getting barreled by pubbers

grizzled aspen
naive stirrup
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speaking of i need to build the greatsword on my psyker

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i haven't done that yet because i was broke

visual stream
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Getting smacked once after fully charging FGS 😞

frozen kernel
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I didnt see a single shot come from over your shoulder

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THIS IS THE EXPERIENCE

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OF PUGS

solar mountain
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Relying on the single celled organisms in quick play are we loregryn

clever swan
grizzled aspen
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I am dead in that clip.

frozen kernel
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I also didn't see the xbox icons

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I've answered my own question

visual stream
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Say it with me chat
I hate consolloids

frozen kernel
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It's the bell curve meme

visual stream
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Wtf Marvel Rivals border?

clever swan
frozen kernel
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Console players are shit
Console players are just normal people that happen to use a more casual gaming medium
Console players are shit

visual stream
frozen kernel
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Recognizing them for being shit is one thing, understanding why they're shit is enlightenment

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The truth is that even our PC randoms are dogshit, but now the console randoms don't have 2 years of experience being carried so they're even more shit

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So whenever you see one, you're like "ah fuck me"

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I remember when DbD first got crossplay

spare talon
plush estuary
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my ammo

frozen kernel
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MY ammo

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[Laughs in faster than u]

visual stream
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I mainly only hate console players when they're the hot mic, vacuum/child crying/ripping a bong/talking to someone else/smoking/etc. in the background type of console player

frozen kernel
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I hate it so much

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Why the fuck

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Ever

spare talon
frozen kernel
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Would you set mic to "Always On" by default

visual stream
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Why can't consoles just bind a button for it

frozen kernel
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Why cant they use voice detection at a bare minimum

clever swan
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the smoke detector beep ;'(

frozen kernel
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So at least the microphone has to decipher their baby mama yelling in the background rather than just pushing it striaght to my eardrums

maiden forge
analog ember
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martyrdom zealot is too funny, i can't play IJ anymroe

north sedge
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Incorrect hot mics rule. Best random i ever had was a dude who audibly vaped everytime he went down (which was every fight)

spare talon
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Found it

frozen kernel
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Literally you

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That shit is hilarious lmao

analog ember
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bonking heretic heads but yeah

clever swan
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i didnt even know it was possible to melee that fast

obsidian prairie
frozen kernel
obsidian prairie
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How do people play like that

visual stream
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At least this guy is talking to the team

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I still hate hearing everything he does

clever swan
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he's also giving you a warning about what you're about to load into. very useful

fleet zealot
visual stream
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Yeah I mean

frozen kernel
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Not because I hate vaping

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But because it's so visceral

visual stream
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His mic has made you aware of three different specials to react to

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Before you load in

fleet zealot
frozen kernel
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It makes me so self conscious of my literal breathing

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KSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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There was one dude I literally couldn't be in the same call with because he'd chain rip it so many times I actually couldn't figure out where he took oxygen

fleet zealot
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my favorite hot mic experience in DT was just a dude on call talking to his friend about his baby mama

frozen kernel
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And it would make me freak out

fleet zealot
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literally the entire match

frozen kernel
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Honestly I think the worst thing that can happen

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is loading into a match of any coop game

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Suddenly outnumbered by Chinese children

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LOUD AS FUCK chinese kids

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There's no english speaker's hand you can hold and just be like "CCP numbah one amirite bud?"

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Just noise pollution

clever swan
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that's how you know you're in good hands

visual stream
grizzled aspen
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I just wanna throw this out there, right.

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That zealout in that match I just clipped the soyker exploding in?

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I asked him, nicely, mind you, to stop hoovering all the ammo.

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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overall neutral

grizzled aspen
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He says "I'm not taking any ammo you fucking idiot."

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check scoreboard
140 ammo taken

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Also note.

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84 wasted

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Mf was just spamming E on crates because he was impatient.

lament blaze
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REWARDS THANK YOU

grizzled aspen
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Like I'm literally playing survivalist vet please conserve your ammo on your revolver bro.

visual stream
lament blaze
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oh fucking gimme that 23k diamantine

grizzled aspen
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Lumii was enraging me so I said "fuck you I'm eating both crates" and just spammed out bolt pistol shots to munch em.

hard nexus
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mk3 evis in h40

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holy peak...

grizzled aspen
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Who durandal?

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I recognize Gale and vic.

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
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Ah.

visual stream
hard nexus
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because signalis

hearty nebula
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more like...

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shitnalis..

maiden forge
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Signalis reference

drowsy steppe
hearty nebula
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:3c

grizzled aspen
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Oh also the ogryn in that match was over level 1000 and was vacuuming ammo like it was his fucking job.

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Like dude you don't even have proper weapons please fuck off.

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Mfw blaze away kickback w no pbb:

visual stream
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PBB?

grizzled aspen
maiden forge
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Common fact the ammo always goes to gun psyker as highest priority

fleet zealot
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kickback is one of ogryn's strongest weapon no

visual stream
grizzled aspen
misty nova
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She point my blank till I barrage

fleet zealot
misty nova
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🗣️

fleet zealot
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regardless of what class

visual stream
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Ohhh why would PBB be good with Kickback though?

frozen kernel
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People actually don't know what they're talking about

grizzled aspen
maiden forge
frozen kernel
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They talk out their ass so much and then you can just be like "Evidence says right here ur a lil bitch"

visual stream
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Oh yeah because the CDR that procs on both specials and elites

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
grizzled aspen
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This just deepens my ogryn racism.

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I cannae stand them much longer.

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I'm about to start inventing lore accurate slurs to sling at them.

frozen kernel
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I use Gamer like a slur

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hard R

grizzled aspen
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I used to be really bad about popping barrels but havoc has forced me to play better so as not to fuck my teammates.

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Now I'm painfully aware of them.

frozen kernel
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For some reason whenever I use one handed weapons, I slap them more often

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But two handers Im really good about controlling my swings

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Like remarkably good

grizzled aspen
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1h weapons usually have that top right to bottom left diagonal swing that nicks barrels at the end.

frozen kernel
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The few times Im weaving swings around a barrel like "fuck the second a veteran shoots that they're gonna blame me"

grizzled aspen
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Like shovel l1.

frozen kernel
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But thankfully the one who shoots it is the character who calls it out

hearty nebula
frozen kernel
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So most of the time I know it's not my fault

grizzled aspen
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:3

frozen kernel
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Out comes the Donny voice

grizzled aspen
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We love the Donny T voice.

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It's the only way to not be violently enraged at bullshit.

frozen kernel
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"These soykers, they're not sending their best. They're bringing stims, they're shooting barrels, some of them I'm sure...are nice people"

grizzled aspen
hearty nebula
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im so glad that soyker is becoming a more frequent term

frozen kernel
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Gamers love pretty things, it's why Ogryn is endangered

hearty nebula
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i feel like a proud dad every time i see it

frozen kernel
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DRG made everyone a dorf so you couldnt complain about being uggo

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just get a better beard, idiot

hearty nebula
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true

frozen kernel
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Driller Gang

grizzled aspen
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If your beard isn't touching your knees are you really a dwarf?

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
grizzled aspen
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I am a gunner main myself.

frozen kernel
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Cant hear you

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Took even more C4

grizzled aspen
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It's fun to get behind a dreadnought and just let loose.

frozen kernel
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I still havent progressed out of greenbeard status

grizzled aspen
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ALAKABLAM as I start spinning up my minigun:

frozen kernel
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I havent touched DRG's medium/high level content, just picked it up on a whim and started playing on my own one day

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Their community is like

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Way too nice

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I had a high level dude join one of my missions and I had no fucking clue what we were even supposed to do

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I couldn't FIND the objective

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Bro just sat with me and let me learn, shooting bugs

grizzled aspen
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I can't really play drg anymore because the person I used to play it with gave me painful memories.

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Same reason I don't play vt2.

frozen kernel
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Agh, that's some bullshit

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Sorry dude

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That's TFW with me

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It's gotten a bunch of updates and some people really love it but my psyker buddy really just killed the game for me with that one bad experience

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Ran in with a nade launcher + MG on mech trenches when I was like level 2 with the starter rifle, aggro'd the death squads, then when I asked him to maybe not do that he just went "I'll just wait until you have stuff because this is how I like to play" and left my game

grizzled aspen
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Don't take this the wrong way but methinks you need to find new friends.

frozen kernel
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Thought to myself that I don't really like the prospect of going in, dying, and losing gear that I spent time aquiring if that's "how he likes to play" so I just haven't touched it since

violet hornet
frozen kernel
grizzled aspen
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I'm just saying that's kinda how the person I used to play with was, and she was very, very toxic.

frozen kernel
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I have no doubts that in his mind any criticism of his gameplay will instantly translate to criticism of his character and it'll be instant pushback

grizzled aspen
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Like, no, I don't know how to fight a minotaur, I've never fucking seen one, you can't expect me to nohit it.

frozen kernel
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This is the same friend who when we play Helldivers 2

grizzled aspen
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Got my ass beat on cata as a level 18 kruber because she dragged me into it.

frozen kernel
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Will attempt to call a mech on landing every time

violet hornet
frozen kernel
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Regardless of the fact that we've landed in the midst of a base on Diff 10

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Will call the mech

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Then get upset

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When someone's airstrike or grenade kills it

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
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Because we havent even acquired our gear yet

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And we're fighting for our goddamn LZ

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But it's just "GRRR EVERY TIME SOMEONE KILLS MY MECH"

grizzled aspen
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I only bring mechs to those tiny map missions that have no objective but kill shit.

frozen kernel
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I went "Hey maybe like, wait two minutes to call it if you know our LZ is usually hot"

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Advice unheeded

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Mech called, destroyed, malding ensues

fleet zealot
frozen kernel
lament blaze
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dump stat for thammer defenses yeah?

plush estuary
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def

fleet zealot
spare talon
frozen kernel
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God forbid you want to play the game a bit and learn the ropes. Nah, they're ready for high level stuff so you're coming

grizzled aspen
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She was like "youre good enough to survive here" and clearly I wasn't lmao.

frozen kernel
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Don't like sitting in the backpack for dozens of games until you can finally contribute? Sucks

grizzled aspen
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I had like no experience with fps games at the time with mnk so I couldn't hit shit with my gun.

frozen kernel
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It's why I can't do MMO's with friends

grizzled aspen
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So I was effectively a shout slave for her to have temp hp.

frozen kernel
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I work for a living and everyone else gets to max level, so when I finally get to play it's just hopping in the backpack to catch me up

lament blaze
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That's insane.
I used to be turbo toxic (league player) but even I wouldn't go to those depths.

grizzled aspen
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Very annoying.

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I think her main gripe was that grail knight was an op career and she didn't have it, so she would bring me as kruber so she didn't have to play with one.

frozen kernel
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And I'm not trying to waste our time learning peak melee efficiency at 4am lol

grizzled aspen
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I mean the only thing I can comment on that you do poorly is panicking when bulwarks are attacking you.

frozen kernel
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If I can just lawnmower like I usually do in aurics but with the focus on keeping us in the gold and keeping hairy shit off your balls, that's solid

grizzled aspen
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In which case I think you could just calm down and wait for them to burn to death.

frozen kernel
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Yeah I fuck up the relic stab trying to backdash

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Consistently

grizzled aspen
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Or wait for me to PA them because I have fgs.

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Actually are you at work rn or no?

frozen kernel
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I just need to do a bit better on keeping track of you when I reach out a lil bit to deal with sg's

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Nope, I'm chilling at home

grizzled aspen
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Thinking about forcing you to learn soyker.

frozen kernel
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I had a build I started putting together for it

maiden forge
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The fuck did you just say

fleet zealot
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playing wasd controlled arpgs has ruined me

frozen kernel
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The mean spanish lady helped

maiden forge
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The soyker?

fleet zealot
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i keep trying to space to dodge and move with wasd

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(in older arpgs)

grizzled aspen
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That person is nasty.

frozen kernel
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She even called me baby

grizzled aspen
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Banx, they are literally an e6 moderator.

frozen kernel
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I know

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Isn't it horrible?

grizzled aspen
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Ok so you have a thing for damaged women, gotcha.

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Not shaming, just news to me.

lament blaze
grizzled aspen
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Not to mention the OF link in her profile.

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:P

frozen kernel
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I can appreciate cyanide for it's almondy aroma

visual stream
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I leveled my brother's zealot and ogryn up with him despite it being boring, so I told him to level psyker and vet on his own if he wanted to and he keeps sneaking leveling in when we play so I just queue auric 5s anyway

lament blaze
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You get 'damaged woman' shrecks once and its over for you

visual stream
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And we lose every time because it's me, him, and two bots every time kek

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
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It all started when I was 15 and dating a spanish girl who did "dance"

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The dance studio was right across the street from a skate park

spare talon
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I'm trying to follow this conversation but it seems to start out of thin air and I don't know what the fuck is happening

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I can't trace it back

drowsy steppe
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damaged women?

frozen kernel
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tldr Stay away from toxic Spanish women

lament blaze
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The standard "i dated a broken woman once and now I too am broken" chat

frozen kernel
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The short term benefits aren't worth the long term damage

lament blaze
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Blight spreads KEKW_ogryn

drowsy steppe
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he failed to fix the girl chat

fleet zealot
spare talon
frozen kernel
hybrid helm
frozen kernel
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I helped my buddy level everything to 30 around launch and then had to do it all myself a year later

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I really wished I had a Banx zealot to carry me through Psyker 1-20

lament blaze
frozen kernel
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Because fuck dude randoms are awful and I just wasn't gettting great gear from Brunt

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Going from casually carrying aurics on my fully geared zealot to being a neutered psyker with a shitty EK staff and no ER? Oh dear god

spare talon
visual stream
lament blaze
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Voice of Soingyboob but the grippy

drowsy steppe
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I will 100% get manipulated

spare talon
lament blaze
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That's what they all say

spare talon
lament blaze
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and then

visual stream
lament blaze
visual stream
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Myself included

frozen kernel
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We're oblivious

visual stream
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Now I know pogging

frozen kernel
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I'd be great in a Call of Cthulhu situation because I'm just ignorant af

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Horrors from the great beyond incapable of human comprehension? That shit was glowing last night so I buried it in compost

visual stream
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When Cthulu calls me but I just don't answer the phone or something Idk never played it

frozen kernel
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@grizzled aspen I'm just fluffing my rice but I'd be down for some learning when you're ready

lament blaze
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damn i didnt know this game did that

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frozen kernel
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Oh there's some good ones

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Someone knocked the plates off a mauler's ass cheeks once

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It's there

frozen kernel
ebon bobcat
lament blaze
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my graphics settings LMAO

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ebon bobcat
frozen kernel
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Just a visual thing

ebon bobcat
drowsy steppe
misty nova
drowsy steppe
visual stream
lament blaze
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screwing around with it in psyk yeah

visual stream
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Which mark and what ya got on it?

lament blaze
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im screwing around with both. i have thrust and headtaker on it rn

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i played like 3 games with a thammer when i was new new

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just dumped a bunch of gold into leveling it

clever swan
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darktide has some pretty good body destruction though you dont see it too well since there are so many enemies

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killing floor has less enemies (usually(darktide always has more enemies at the high-end, though, i think)) and slow motion so its gore can be better appreciated

lament blaze
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killing floor is dope

visual stream
lament blaze
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(simping for DE again) doom eternal had body destruction which was really awesome as a healthbar for the big sponges like barons

visual stream
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There are a few breakpoints to learn and it becomes an even better weapon after that

lament blaze
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if there's like 3 spawned and you fuck one of them up real good you can know which one it is

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so easy to lose track of which enemy is which when you're practically instant transmissioning around the arena

frozen kernel
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I preferred 2016 to DE

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DE kinda felt a bit disconnected. There was so much on my screen and I just didnt feel it as much

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2016 really embodied the whole rip n tear thing

north sedge
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i thought i did but then i tried replaying 2016 and realized i preferred DE

clever swan
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i think the game half sword has some of the best, and perhaps most psychotic, body gore of any game right now

frozen kernel
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It was dark and the music went DUGGADUHDUHDUGGDADUHDUH, simple as

lament blaze
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i like DE because it's balanced.

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sorta

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you can rip the game in half but the things that rip the game in half are the things that are more difficult to do.

frozen kernel
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I wasn't a fan of the philosophy of "we want every enemy to be a puzzle"

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I didn't think that was very DOOM of them

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It's a neat idea and as far as gameplay goes, that's not a bad philosophy

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But not for DOOM

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That's the mindset that goes into making bastard shield enemies in action adventure games

lament blaze
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I gotta disagree there. the original doom's monsters were puzzles and that just becomes more apparent when you play plutonia which is a big part of the culture of doom regardless of the fact it was a mod.

sullen forge
visual stream
frozen kernel
visual stream
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I'm usually fine with bulwarks but I fucking hate the design of shield rats

tame sluice
lament blaze
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same is true for doom eternal though with one exception

tame sluice
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without being pigeonholed into specific options through dumb damage modifiers

frozen kernel
lament blaze
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DLC is different

hard nexus
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like what banx said

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ultrakill does it better in less of a “do x to kill y”

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and more of a

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“how can i style hardest while still being efficient”

sullen forge
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X is better to kill them with

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but other choices are neutral still

hard nexus
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basically having every option be viable for every enemy

sullen forge
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example being like Virtue's and Gabriel take extra nail damage

hard nexus
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just certain options perform better

sullen forge
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do you need to kill them only with nails?

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no

lament blaze
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like you learn that sticky bombs will stagger cacos but the ballista is also good vs them as well as a point blank SSG blast or a grenade or just chaingun fire

hard nexus
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i usually just triple railcoin into sawcon into slabcoin

sullen forge
spare talon
frozen kernel
drowsy steppe
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aaah wife material

frozen kernel
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When I see videos where someone is just going apeshit I'm like "why did u post this"

drowsy steppe
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chases you with intent to harm

visual stream
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I always use the green nailgun

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One that goes brrr

tame sluice
visual stream
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Feels the most consistently good

frozen kernel
tame sluice
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or coinpunch slab revolver

lament blaze
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ultrakill's "score" system really got to me. I did not like it at all. I went through act 1 but I didn't have much desire to pick it up again

frozen kernel
naive stirrup
lament blaze
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im aware

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but its as simple as "you have to ham fist this to me via a purely artificial system instead of weaving it into the gameplay"

naive stirrup
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it...it is weaved into gameplay

tame sluice
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it is weaved into the gameplay though

naive stirrup
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you literally deal more damage if you swap between weapons

tame sluice
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the best and fastest way to kill enemies is always to combo between multiple weapons

plush estuary
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listen to the enemy audio, or the lack of

naive stirrup
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1.5x damage

plush estuary
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was funny

tame sluice
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and you actually lose damage if you overuse one weapon

violet hornet
lament blaze
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Then there's no point in tacking the score system on top of it.

spare talon
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The grappling hook weaves the score system even more into the gameplay

lament blaze
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It feels cheap. And I know that ultrakill stans defend it with all their might but i do not care

naive stirrup
naive stirrup
lament blaze
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Objectively wrong about what?

tame sluice
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the score system is there expressly to make lizard brain happy with big number

north sedge
tame sluice
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and to reward the player very visually and immediately for doing well

spare talon
drowsy steppe
tame sluice
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so it encourages better play because you'll naturally want to get a better score

visual stream
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Shooting the grenade shotgun can be so difficult

naive stirrup
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then you have to play both

tame sluice
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plus you don't take permanent health loss from attacks if you're doing really good at any given moment

spare talon
tame sluice
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Cruelty to small robots (me)

naive stirrup
visual stream
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Parry feels so good

naive stirrup
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it took me 3 hours to p rank what was needed just to unlock P-1

visual stream
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Coin flipping behind the dickhead flamethrowers feels so good

naive stirrup
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i will never p rank p-1 or p-2

spare talon
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I p ranked p1 and said cool no more lmao

naive stirrup
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i'd like to gain access to p-2

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but i would need to relearn the game

tame sluice
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P-2 is honestly probably the best level ever put into a first person shooter

naive stirrup
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i never did any of the fancy tricks like shooting a coin with a railgun

tame sluice
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and it's agonizingly difficult

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but so well designed

spare talon
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I hated playing p-2

naive stirrup
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i do not have the skill for that

spare talon
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Will never return

naive stirrup
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one day i'll return to ultrakill

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today is not that day

tame sluice
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first attempt of P2 went great when I did it

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naive stirrup
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38 restarts kekw
(i would be sitting at upwards of 100)

tame sluice
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I remember when it released there was a streamer that took like 2 hours and nearly 200 attempts to get their first clear

frozen kernel
spare talon
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kill sonic

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2/3 times they have not given me the cheese dip for my pretzel stick

grizzled aspen
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Kill sonic, their regs don't require them to wear gloves.

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(I was a cook, I know)

hushed knoll
spare talon
copper hawk
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Hi noobs

frozen kernel
copper hawk
frozen kernel
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We're stoned out of our gourds and it's like 1:30 in the morning

copper hawk
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Aka deafening silence as spawns and sound channels are pushed to their absolute limit

spare talon
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i go to sonic when my craving for mozzarella sticks is louder than the voice in my head telling me theyre stupidly overpriced

copper hawk
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No junk food

frozen kernel
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Stupidly overpriced, no Sonic is ever in a convenient location, and the quality is like C tier food

copper hawk
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Bad 4 u..

frozen kernel
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Howerver

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It hits

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That's all that matters to the brain noodle

spare talon
# plush estuary

i was actually really surprised
was playing vet for the first time in havoc last night, mk1 shovel with scrusher decimator
for the first time i have actively been able to notice just how strong hitmass reduction on staggered enemies is when i can suddenly cleave through a group of moebian 21st at havoc 40 with a few deci stacks and a voc puttin them on the floor, despite their massive hitmass

copper hawk
#

Scrusher

#

Ooooooh

#

Skuuuuuull cruuuuusher

frozen kernel
#

I'll crush ur skull

#

Going through and deleting a bunch of old clips and I just have this one of a knife psyker kicking in his afterburners

grizzled aspen
#

Banx.

#

Boot game.

frozen kernel
#

Dude wanted to kill the 4 elites that spawn across that first tiny gap so bad

#

Hiya

grizzled aspen
#

Play soyker.

frozen kernel
#

Bootin

vague depot
#

What’s the knife movetech

frozen kernel
#

But do I have Grandmaster Frug?

vague depot
#

I know there’s something more I can do besides run and hold heavy

grizzled aspen
#

There isnt.

#

That's literally all it is.

frozen kernel
#

^

vague depot
#

No I can vaguely remember there being some sort of tech that let you hold heavy for longer

grizzled aspen
#

I am willing to bet he popped scriers to move faster too.

vague depot
#

That’s all I can remember

frozen kernel
#

Makes you hold it longer

#

That's it lol

vague depot
#

You gotta be kidding me

#

Is that it

frozen kernel
#

Yes

#

I shit you not

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah and theres no purpose in doing that either.

vague depot
#

Mash 1 while sprinting and holding heavy?

grizzled aspen
#

Just release your heavy before the game forces you.

frozen kernel
#

Yep

vague depot
frozen kernel
#

This is what reddit claims is the holy grail of unspoken techniques

grizzled aspen
# vague depot Why

If the game forces you, there are times when it kicks you out of sprint.

frozen kernel
#

This is why we don't listen to reddit KEKW_ogryn

grizzled aspen
#

So you just release a little early to never worry about that.

frozen kernel
#

OH FUCK

#

Hang on

#

I forgot to go get "your ability activates when you press the button" mod

vague depot
mighty root
remote lark
#

noone cares about mk3 evisc

#

except u

frozen kernel
remote lark
#

die

frozen kernel
#

Im taking you with me

mighty root
#

i just smoked bath salts

copper hawk
#

Y r u so cruel and evil

frozen kernel
copper hawk
#

Lumii u need allah

hushed knoll
copper hawk
mighty root
hushed knoll
#

I didn't take a pic

#

Should I stick a camera down my gullet

mighty root
placid fiber
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
grizzled aspen
#

Bro the game just didnt give me any diamantine or plasteel from my havoc reward.

hushed knoll
grizzled aspen
#

Close to 12k diamantine, robbed.

#

Idgaf about plasteel, I've got 65k of it.

placid fiber
#

Oof

hushed knoll
frozen kernel
vague depot
#

I need diamantine

frozen kernel
#

I wish I could donate to yall

#

I've already found my forever weps and I dont mind playing for stuff I dont have

#

But some of yall have been royally spanked by RNGsus

hard nexus
frozen kernel
#

8k, feels good

grizzled aspen
#

8k would go by instantly for me.

#

I require 1 version of each mk of each weapon plus another mk if something interesting exists, like the burgle annihilator.

frozen kernel
#

I thought the dark communion we did was 34?

20250112212457_1.jpg
hard nexus
frozen kernel
#

Guess that was the Refinery Delta night

vague depot
#

lol

frozen kernel
#

Yeah that's what I mean like

hard nexus
frozen kernel
#

I've never spent more than like 200k dockets without getting what I wanted

grizzled aspen
#

The burgle annihilator is so funny, I got accused of cheating when I used it.

spare talon
hard nexus
frozen kernel
#

Just collecting a perfect version of every weapon

#

If something changes, it'll be like a time capsule

hard nexus
#

oh my god

spare talon
hard nexus
#

this explains

grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

THIS

#

EXPLAINS

spare talon
#

the captain?

#

yea

grizzled aspen
#

Oh and ambuscade.

hard nexus
hard nexus
spare talon
#

@hard nexus full cleaving havoc 40 moebian hordes with a voc and decimator stacks

hard nexus
hard nexus
#

the cleave is insane

visual stream
hard nexus
misty ravine
visual stream
#

Sorry Moebian Shittyfirst, I have a shovel

spare talon
#

10.5 cleave becoming 15.75 cleave with decimator, then ignoring half of the hit mass makes it HUGE for horde clear

grizzled aspen
#

So in total, 80% backstab damage (raking fire + ambuscade), 5% crit, 50% unyielding damage (perk + purge), 50% close damage (anoint + dumdum), 15% bonus flat damage (IJ).

visual stream
#

But since that's normal shovel and not folding, is it not kind of bad?

grizzled aspen
#

You can literally 2mag a full burgle by yourself.

hard nexus
#

makes me sad

grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

only hitting like, 5-6 enemies per swing

visual stream
#

I'm not knowledgable on the vet shovels at all and I never see anyone use them, folding ir no

royal vortex
#

u don't have to hit many enemies if u just make friends

#

give peace a try

visual stream
grizzled aspen
#

Yes.

spare talon
hard nexus
spare talon
#

its just awesome

grizzled aspen
#

Ogryn shovel is very overtuned because it has bm.

hard nexus
#

is pretty yummers

royal vortex
hard nexus
grizzled aspen
#

@frozen kernel strike team 50.

hard nexus
#

and equip the warcriminator 9000

spare talon
#

its just an awesome weapon

#

this overhead push attack does so much damage

hard nexus
#

it’s the only finesse attack on shovel lmfao

visual stream
#

What is its role? I figured it was niche because I thought it was horde clear and useless at everything else

spare talon
visual stream
#

Can it kill armor/bosses decently?

hard nexus
spare talon
#

i just like that one cuz the push attack is fucking awesome

hard nexus
#

lights are single target

#

heavies r horde clear

spare talon
hard nexus
#

it just does everything

visual stream
#

Ooo okay

hard nexus
#

it’s not the best

#

but it is very fun

visual stream
#

I figured chord was a better generalist

#

That's the only melee I run on vet so far xd

spare talon
#

it has uncanny, decimator, and skullcrusher

hard nexus
spare talon
#

all of which are amazing

hard nexus
spare talon
#

skullcrusher is especially of note due to it being a debuff, ive actively used staggers against bosses like voc and grenades to get team value from it

visual stream
#

Can you recommend shovel perks and blessings setup?

#

And which mark to use

spare talon
#

in havoc after throwing a few shredders ill heavy attack the group of elites to stagger them, because dots are also affected by SC

visual stream
#

I'm assuming PA spam on armor/boss, right?

spare talon
#

uncanny if your gun isnt reliable against armor

hard nexus
hard nexus
hard nexus
sullen forge
# spare talon

Rending strikes useful at all if your gun is so-so against armor?...

visual stream
#

Yummers heard

spare talon
#

then either skullcrusher for better combo damage, or decimator for brain off bonus damage from just using it

sullen forge
#

or does it really not matter at all

#

cause I mean 10% is 10% still

spare talon
#

cuz both are just really good in situations where youd be forced to put your gun away

visual stream
#

Is it good into rager/elite packs in general eith SC/Deci?

spare talon
#

at that point youd probably get more value from onslaught or exploit weakness

sullen forge
#

Probs Exploit then tbh seeing recip exists

median steeple
fleet zealot
spare talon
#

40 from onslaught brings it up to 107

#

at this point, just run uncanny

sullen forge
#

I'll have to find something then seeing im trying to find any excuse to pair it with the VA but im usually running Uncanny + Deci anyways

spare talon
#

with a recon stacking onslaught, then a stagger for SC stacks, a push attack at 8 SC and 40% brittleness deals 900ish

#

so its definitely build dependant

#

how you build your shovel does depend on what you need

#

but even with uncanny its not the fastest thing at dealing with armor tbh

visual stream
#

I forget, which Recon is best at anti-armor/boss with onslaught/Infernus and why

spare talon
#

it does make it much more viable against armor, but id say it is the worst option against crushers out of all weapons that can get uncanny

sullen forge
#

Highest Firerate one which was...

#

XII?... I think?

spare talon
sullen forge
#

Lets you stack them like pathetically quick

spare talon
#

firerate, faster application of stacks of burn and onslaught

hearty nebula
#

yummers

sullen forge
#

it hurts a wee bit

hearty nebula
#

now show it on a boss.....

sullen forge
#

just a wee bit

visual stream
spare talon
sullen forge
#

Higher crit string chance I assume

visual stream
#

Crit string?

#

Just multiple in a row?

remote lark
spare talon
#

with high firerate guns, any time a crit happens, the next few bullets are also counted as crits

remote lark
#

meow

#

did you see what i posted the other day

#

i was fuckign rolling on the ground

#

PLEASE read this

#

"you want true survivor next game? chadgryn "

spare talon
#

for example, the 3 burst headhunter gun, whenever it crits, every shot in the burst counts as a crit

remote lark
#

less damage than brand new level 30 on their first havoc

#

fucking lmao

spare talon
#

with this gun, it means that each bullet applies burn stacks

#

in addition to shock trooper not consuming ammo

sullen forge
#

Bootleg Helgun

#

yeah fuck it I'll make this build in a minute

#

need more veteran playstyles

spare talon
hearty nebula
#

thats a lotta boolets

sullen forge
#

fair and balanced as all things should be

fleet zealot
hearty nebula
#

I'm thinking of being actually stupid on purpose

#

and running crusher with shroudfield

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
#

@remote lark what doin?

#

@sullen forge you too, what doin?

hearty nebula
grizzled aspen
#

If by "pet" you mean "crunch its empty skull with a crusher" then sure, I'll pet the hound.

remote lark
#

LMFAO

#

THEY'RE SPAMMING THE COMPANY WHO WANTED TO BUY THEM OUT

#

these guys are so fucking funny

kind hedge
#

Heavy sword mark 9 no longer goated?

hearty nebula
#

it's still goated

remote lark
hearty nebula
#

it's just hipsters being shitters as per usual

kind hedge
#

Maybe I just ain’t good anymore

remote lark
#

eta before free is 5-6h

remote lark
spare talon
hearty nebula
#

real

kind hedge
grizzled aspen
remote lark
#

every single time.

remote lark
#

i hate you.

grizzled aspen
#

No???

median steeple
#

Yea

grizzled aspen
#

I'm just teaching him not to geek.

#

It's joever, my husband hates me.

remote lark
mighty root
remote lark
#

hi fyre

median steeple
#

Did one hav 40

#

Never again

mighty root
median steeple
#

I hate ragers so much

#

Especially DREGS

hard nexus
median steeple
#

Stink

#

I need to mindlessly grind havs now

#

Can't wait

mighty root
#

i like to queue for regular heresy so i play with fresh 30s

median steeple
#

Don't even need to queue heresy for that

#

Was getting them back to back in aurics

mighty root
#

they are magnetized to barrels

mighty root
#

i always warm up with heresy

sullen forge
#

Vic and Psycho both got H40 cause of me and Cyn :33333

mighty root
#

then off to auric male

grizzled aspen
#

We are going for true survivor when Lumii gets ready to tide.

neat grove
#

what do i do when 17 bullion curshers and ragers spawn on me and form a wall of pain?

obsidian prairie
#

Win or smth IDK

#

Zealot doesn't have a button for that

#

Besides like

#

Flamer

neat grove
obsidian prairie
#

Shotgun would not work

#

Even with manstopper

neat grove
#

ive noticed

#

not even the big boom

obsidian prairie
#

Cara hardstops cleave on everything but 2 blessings

neat grove
#

spearhead botler it is then

#

explosive rounds would be nice

spare talon
#

hm

#

literally trolling

visual stream
spare talon
#

DPS? no
overall best? probably yeah

visual stream
#

Is the plogryn buffed or is that a normal one

spare talon
#

normal damn

#

headhunter is to make infernus way more consistent across the board, and also ammo economy with shock troop

#

but thats also taking the spot of dumdum

#

which is a big damage bump that applies to both the gun and the burn

spare talon
vocal olive
#

Fellas what's the hard and fast for a relic blade setup

spare talon
pure tree
spare talon
#

and so is this

vocal olive
#

Much appreciated

vague depot
#

It’s crazy how people will throw entire games because they want to get a couple more kills instead of spending a literal second freeing a trapper bet

visual stream
#

I think I'm spoiled by thammer but it doesn't look super impressive 😭

#

Well it is super ammo efficient

spare talon
#

and i have enough ammo econ with survivalist and shock troop that i can just
shoot nearly everything

spare talon
visual stream
#

Thoughts on replacing HH with Dumdum by taking Deadshot?

#

Then you sort of get the best of both

spare talon
#

deadshot will instantly obliterate your stamina

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

full to nothing in less than a 10th of a second

visual stream
#

True, but it works for gun purposes no?

spare talon
#

when stamina runs out, so does deadshot

visual stream
#

I feel like that would boost the damage and efficiency by a lot

#

Does it??

spare talon
#

yes

obsidian prairie
#

Did you actually think it worked while empty

tame sluice
#

for all of half a second yeah

fleet zealot
#

lmao deadshot with an automaticv

tame sluice
#

and you better hope to god you don't need that stamina for anything

fleet zealot
#

goodluck with 0 stamina

tame sluice
#

because vets stamina takes forever to come back

visual stream
fleet zealot
#

it's consuming stamina

visual stream
#

I'm not surprised if FatShark left that out though

fleet zealot
#

if it can't consume stamina, it don't work

obsidian prairie
#

What part of ability consumes resource implies it works without resource

visual stream
#

I interpreted it as more of a drawback rather than resource management

#

That makes the most sense to me

tame sluice
#

that's how literally everyone thought deadshot worked on release of the game btw

fleet zealot
tame sluice
#

because the game didn't mention that it stops working if you have 0 stamina

fleet zealot
tame sluice
#

so people just assumed it was always active, but would drain your stamina

fleet zealot
#

it was obvious to anyone who like

#

played an rpg before

tame sluice
#

so...not darktides target audience

fleet zealot
#

if a spell costs mana to channel, you don't keep channeling at 0 mana

tame sluice
fleet zealot
#

warhammer has a lot of crossover with rpgs lol

tame sluice
#

Last Epoch and Path of Exile come to mind

fleet zealot
#

path of exile you ltierally can't

#

wdym

#

i'm literally playing it today

visual stream
#

I play RPGs but the games tell you it doesn't work when it runs out, in one way or another

fleet zealot
#

your channeling will end if you can't maintain your resource

spare talon
#

either way
thats why you dont take deadshot with it

visual stream
#

Makes sense

spare talon
#

also when it comes to boss damage

fleet zealot
#

unless someone had a lifetap/life cost build + self sustain, letting them reserve all their mana as an aura, but that's just moving the resource to HP

spare talon
#

me and dorn duoed a boss auric maelstrom

#

with these cringe vet builds

#

first time id done an auric mael with it period

#

i was running this and dorn was running buffed kraks, focus target, plasma ds4

#

i had more boss damage for 90% of the run

sullen forge
#

I just got put through

#

2

spare talon
#

from recon alone

sullen forge
#

fucking unavoidable death combos

#

I think im done with darktide for tonight

spare talon
#

till i dodged off the fucking map lmao

pure tree
visual stream
#

Y'all so quick to jump me for Fatshark's mistake btw holy moly

spare talon
#

i will say it doesnt say anything about being out of stamina

visual stream
#

Ty for explaining Cole

spare talon
#

and fatshark desc are literally written by fatshark

hearty nebula
spare talon
#

case and point:

image.png
hearty nebula
#

WHY

tame sluice
hearty nebula
#

I'm running fucking crusher on shartfield with a las pistol....

spare talon
#

thats my point

fleet zealot
#

description team and code team acts like they are two different departments at times

tame sluice
#

is the ogryn toughness replenishment talent replenishing toughness, coherency toughness regen, or increased toughness form all sources

#

because it has all 3

visual stream
tame sluice
#

and they all just say "Toughness Replenishment"

hearty nebula
fleet zealot
#

back during the feat days, psyker got all sorts of fucked up

hearty nebula
#

every single fucking day

#

of their lives

#

💀

spare talon
visual stream
#

The target takes +40% damage when already in a state of staggered

spare talon
#

nope

tame sluice
#

that's what no respite says it does and even that's wrong

#

there are honestly more talents/blessings in this game with wrong or incomplete information than ones that correctly describe what they do

fleet zealot
hearty nebula
#

Epic_Cole/Lestrade is typing...

fleet zealot
#

skullcrusher is a debuff

spare talon
#

when you stagger an enemy, or hit an enemy thats already staggered (even if you deal no damage, like pushes, they count), they recieve 4 stacks of skullcrusher, up to a cap of 8, each stack being an additional 10% damage recieved (lower tiers apply 1,2,3 with the same cap of 8)

#

however

#

this debuff is only applied during the stagger animation

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

if they are no longer staggered, they wont recieve more damage until they are staggered again, despite still having the debuff

visual stream
#

They only take the extra damage after initially being staggered, right?

#

And while

uneven galleon
#

I got ovenproof scoreboard but how do I make it so the stats don't go off-screen

fleet zealot
#

and turn off stats you don't need/want

spare talon
#

so with the shovel, if i do the special atk stagger, that applies 4 stacks, then i do a push, that applies 4 more for 8, then i follow up with the overhead while theyre still staggered, they now recieved 80% more damage from that hit

uneven galleon
visual stream
#

It seems to make sense and do what it describes itself as doing

fleet zealot
#

even if the enemy has the debuff stacks

visual stream
#

Definitely not the worst that FS has done but yeah it leaves important stuff out

fleet zealot
#

hence why thrust+ skullcrusher can be anti synergistic on crusher maul, since your enemy can be recovered while you wind up your swing

spare talon
spare talon
# spare talon

we stagger this chaos spawn 2x in a row while all DPSing it, and i was applying skullcrusher to it during it

grizzled aspen
spare talon
#

watch its HP

visual stream
#

Good god

grizzled aspen
#

If it's too far horizontally theres a number you can edit in one of the files to move it over.

visual stream
#

Skullcrusher so silly

spare talon
#

so it never says it can go up to 80%

hearty nebula
#

t3 monstrous specialists.... thammer time for funsies

visual stream
#

Coked up shovel user rivalling a thunder hammer

spare talon
#

but it also never says that its only during the stagger

#

btw

visual stream
#

That is true

uneven galleon
#

I'm fgixing that rn

spare talon
#

did you know captain shield pops render them staggered?

remote lark
#

did u know ur a nerd

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah just disable some things and itll go away. Pretty sure it has a buffer thing on the bottom you can turn off.

hearty nebula
#

um..... no u

#

noob...

grizzled aspen
visual stream
hearty nebula
#

oh noooo dont mpreg react me haha its so weird and unfunny!

tame sluice
hearty nebula
spare talon
#

watching as the captains takes 1/2 of its hp in one phase because 3 duelling swords stabbed into its skull when he had 8 skullcrusher stacks in fucking havoc 40

misty nova
grizzled aspen
#

@spare dome what is your psyker's name if you have one?

tame sluice
#

my personal favorite bully method for captains is taking half their shield off in a single chain axe special

remote lark
tame sluice
#

because it annihilates void shields for some reason

misty nova
#

(technically two)

spare talon
misty nova
#

Take a Swing
(Morbius sweep.png)

tame sluice
spare talon
#

that was old decimator

misty nova
#

Impact dclaw

#

🗣️

spare talon
#

hammerblow is based on the weapons impact itself

grizzled aspen
spare talon
#

so its not doing you much good

spare talon
misty nova
#

Now that's more like it

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

same time as bm change iirc

fleet zealot
#

yea

tame sluice
# spare talon

okay funny ragdolls I am now convinced to use the weapon

spare talon
fleet zealot
#

those are modded ragdolls

tame sluice
spare talon
#

setting it to 0 makes them drop like a sack of stones lmao

median steeple
#

euphoria ass ragdoll

remote lark
hard nexus
spare talon
#

from my recon

hard nexus
#

ohhh

hard nexus
#

WWZ reference

median steeple
#

ROT

hard nexus
spare dome
#

its a default name

median steeple
sullen forge
#

I'll be dead serious

#

you guys at all experiencing delayed inputs and stuttering

#

etc

#

cause I've noticed it was like slightly there, now its really fucking bad today

median steeple
#

not stuttering just frame drops

#

monitor moment?

#

also party finder is dead

#

holy shit this is bleak

fleet zealot
#

Damn steam forums hating dukane again

hearty nebula
#

😭

#

it didnt cause any problems but just like

#

damn....

sullen forge
#

and then it forces me back to my gun

#

and then im spamming into a horde like an idiot

hearty nebula
#

Yep

#

I've had that alot when playing with @plush estuary

#

The game also just likes to teleport me around sometimes randomly

sullen forge
#

Okay im not insane

#

its just DT servers I assume

#

cause im straight up gaslighting myself into thinking my internet is just dogshit

plush estuary
#

servers moment

sullen forge
median steeple
#

Banished

plush estuary
spare talon
median steeple
#

play dwarf

plush estuary
#

I got liek 3 people leveling in legend

#

join us

spare talon
#

i cant not play it like darktide, extreme offensive

plush estuary
#

*not rn

#

but some days

sullen forge
#

I have VT2

#

I seriously should consider playing it

#

@spare talon Also dont feel bad you're not alone

#

I tried playing it like DT and ate shit LMAO

spare talon
#

any time i try to adapt and play more reserved like vermintide and still eat shit anyway but just deal less damage