zealot-class

[silver stag]

Cut it open, i wanna see

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1293615088523280416/attachment.gif

[silver stag]

OOF

Lol

[hushed knoll]

I can’t I’ve already eaten it since like last April

[cinder roost]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-shook-sesame-street-wtf-did-i-just-read-bert-and-ernie-gif-11751136

https://tenor.com/view/why-for-what-monkey-confused-gif-2227785687963350743

[hushed knoll]

Weren’t Bert and Ernie lovers

[silver stag]

Believe me, that was and is my reaction still

[stone fern]

chat

[silver stag]

Yeah

[stone fern]

kill this guy

[hushed knoll]

Clad you need to calm down

No violence

You need a huggywuggy

[silver stag]

Hahaha

[sharp atlas]

Taco stan public execution march 29 2025

[stone fern]

its too late stan

[silver stag]

I love you, Stan

[stone fern]

it was always too late

[hushed knoll]

I knew it

[hushed knoll]

[cinder roost]

I swear I always regret peaking into this chat for one reason or another

[silver stag]

I love the chaos and stupidity of this chat honestly

[hushed knoll]

It’s never too late

[silver stag]

Reminds me of the space marine 2 chat when i chat in there

[hushed knoll]

No

[silver stag]

Shoulda seen peoples reaction when i told them i liked true hawaiin pizza, with the ham, pineapple and cherries

[sharp atlas]

Yeah

[silver stag]

It was wild

Super funny

[sharp atlas]

Electric chair

[hushed knoll]

Ooo that would be good with ranch

[silver stag]

Too sweet for ranch

[hushed knoll]

Naw

[silver stag]

Cant imagine it tasting good

[hushed knoll]

No

[sharp atlas]

Fineee lethal injection

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fist-arthur-kiss-mad-gif-16406585

WAIT

WRONG GIF

https://tenor.com/view/killed-em-hold-this-stabbed-gif-14017151

I meant this

[sharp atlas]

Yeah right

[hushed knoll]

Ranch makes everything taste good

Chocolate chip cookies with ranch isn’t a bad combo

[sharp atlas]

Bro

What

[hushed knoll]

Sweet and tangy

[silver stag]

Are your tasebuds just shot?

[hushed knoll]

No

[silver stag]

Dude got them bizzaro genes, fucked up his taste buds

[sharp atlas]

Taco

[cinder roost]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[sharp atlas]

Get that checked

[silver stag]

Its good though

[hushed knoll]

I don’t need anything checked

[sharp atlas]

Btw could someone recommend me a good zealot build? I'm kinda new to the game

[sharp atlas]

U do

Please

[hushed knoll]

I am a healthy upstanding American cicyizen

Citizen

[sharp atlas]

Im not

Even american

[hushed knoll]

Are you British

[sharp atlas]

Nuh uh

My country small asl you could never guess it

[hushed knoll]

Is it in Europe

[sharp atlas]

No

Try south

[silver stag]

South african?

[sharp atlas]

Way too far

South american

[hushed knoll]

Guyana?

Suriname?

[sharp atlas]

So you're just flexing your superior english now

😭

[silver stag]

Lol

[hushed knoll]

Those are countries

[sharp atlas]

I have never heard of those countries on this side

Tweaking

[remote lark]

ah, havoc pubs

never change

[silver stag]

Thats alot of numbers, i aint zoomin in on all that

[remote lark]

1 million damage

frog did 996k

smile

[hushed knoll]

[sharp atlas]

I border colombia, brazil, bolivia and peru

[cinder roost]

You need to lose weight bro.

[sharp atlas]

[hushed knoll]

Ecuador?

[sharp atlas]

🗣🔥🔥🔥

Yeah

[hushed knoll]

Omg I’m amazing

[sharp atlas]

We should kiss

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[grand tangle]

saving that gif taco

i love it

[hushed knoll]

I love you

[grand tangle]

thank you

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-bravo-eyerbrows-gif-11127100

[silver stag]

Thats so stupid

[hushed knoll]

What do you call an extremely tired woodcutter?

A slumberjack

[twin wagon]

[silver stag]

[hushed knoll]

@stone fern why are you crying

[stone fern]

joke so bad it made me cry 😭

[raven saddle]

Hey, can anyone help me complete the "Just a Flesh Wound" penance for my zealot?

[grand tangle]

i will give you the tip that its best to do it on the special mission, and use the shortcut to skip straight to the boss room. should be a fire barrel in the room before it that you use to lower your HP

[royal vortex]

i cannot contain him. only document

[sturdy cypress]

finally, i can play the game

[remote lark]

im not feeling so good

[raven saddle]

I read somewhere on reddit that didn't count. Thanks for the tip, wasn't even gonna try it

[grand tangle]

it worked for me

they were just being elitist i think

[raven saddle]

Definitely makes my life easier lol. Only got a few more penances to max my zealot

[stone fern]

workable

[blissful frigate]

only Until Death does duty end

[silver stag]

Someone get him a zealot stat, he's too far gone

[polar nexus]

What's the mod you use to get that dodge bar?

[stone fern]

EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

[remote lark]

its called dodge bar

or something

[polar nexus]

👌

[merry flume]

you bought the tiara huh

typical

[silver stag]

Gators

[misty nova]

The monobrow

[fleet zealot]

Ferret using made in heaven

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-made-in-heaven-pucci-stone-ocean-enrico-pucci-gif-27190891

[fleet zealot]

mink 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/ermine-sniff-gif-19466688

also im so fucking mad the first gif image is somene in a mink coat i really hope it's fake

[hushed knoll]

It’s my coat

[hushed knoll]

AZRAVAL OMG HI

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-ferret-review-cute-shy-embarrassed-gif-1531817783001885917

stans can'

[hushed knoll]

Why is there a jar of peanut butter on the floor

[fleet zealot]

stans can't wear coats of animals

[fleet zealot]

it entertains the ferret

ferrets love new experiences

[stone fern]

ferrets are slaaneshi cultists

[fleet zealot]

wrong

ferrets are loyal servants of the god emperor!

[hushed knoll]

I’ll wear you like a coat 😠

[hushed knoll]

No u

Clad you’ve reached your saluting face emoji limit for today

😠😠😠😠

[fleet zealot]

wow so you want a hug

[hushed knoll]

No

[fleet zealot]

weird!

[stone fern]

ur bumpy

[fleet zealot]

no i'm smooth

teh smoothest

[hushed knoll]

EW I HATE THAT

[lunar fable]

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/tweek-ferret-malfunction-gif-15528467

https://tenor.com/view/mattress-meme-kill-gif-7436052667595505238

[misty nova]

Repair Doretta!

🗣️

[remote lark]

be us in a 3 man doing a regular mission, frog, me, a newbie, and a random
4th random has true survivor, has half the damage of frog and I
4th random at the end of mission says "wanna get true survivor?" after our new teammate commented "wow, a true survivor!"

fuck it

random queues us into havoc 40
we lose in 3rd room after they INSTANTLY die to a crusher

they got less damage than the new player on their first ever havoc mission
they got less damage in every single category than the rest of the team
most disables too

SO FUCKING FUNNY

true survivor, mogged by brand new player on first havoc

we've hit peak havoc

(the random was rlly nice, i just think this is hilarious)

[grizzled aspen]

Also note that Lumii and I were not at all treating this like a havoc.

We were running around martyr relic blade being idiots.

[remote lark]

we were doing great until they instantly exploded when some crushers spawned

absolutely fucking hilarious

"wanna get true survivor next game?"

mogged by the newbie they offered the carry to

[heady rapids]

we lose in 3rd room after they INSTANTLY die to a crusher
nah but he was actually onto something, that doesn't ruin the requirement for getting true surv...............

[remote lark]

psyker noob exploded

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-frone-explode-dies-gif-14493096138927684504

was just an h40 run pretty early on

[remote lark]

frog ran off a ledge

[remote lark]

crucian better on aggri

than point blank

also reload speed is dump

[twin wagon]

16% vs 20%

[remote lark]

not mobi

[grizzled aspen]

[twin wagon]

I don't want mobi

[remote lark]

i don't want you

[twin wagon]

but ur not a dump stat

you want to max out Bark

Besides I'm running this on the meme herself

[grizzled aspen]

You want me though you thirsty boy...

[twin wagon]

I just want to piss off veterans

So I'm making all the meme builds, from zarona boss killer to DOTGUN

Regardless think for a second Bark

it's better to have the first shot be crit to apply rending

[remote lark]

aggri is for magdumping

explode

[twin wagon]

Allegedly

The math checks out

[hearty nebula]

im gonna magdump ur head...

[stone fern]

this dude loves to yap

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jtxEXQBWOWMdyyvjz?invite=cr-MSx3djUsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

frog

@stone fern

watch this

pls

[grizzled aspen]

In my defense you should expect less than nothing from me on ogryn.

[remote lark]

[stone fern]

is this dude running ogryn without the toughness on hit talents?

[remote lark]

he missed

the dog

he missed it like 4 times

[stone fern]

no before that

do you have more of the clip

[grizzled aspen]

Dog 👍

[remote lark]

he was in pox gas

there were like 5 bombers

[lament blaze]

That dog just earned true survivor fr

[stone fern]

poxgas does nothing to ogryn if they keep hitting stuff

i think he was running without the talents

💀

[hearty nebula]

gneep gnarp

[remote lark]

rager pack was keeping him in there

he was fucked

[hearty nebula]

hi breasties

[remote lark]

neiryn

watch the clip of frog i posted

[stone fern]

ragers dont do anything to ogryn with the 283263 impact

[hearty nebula]

in a sec im still cozy in bed...

petting kbity...

[clever swan]

poor frog will never live this down

[hearty nebula]

Skill issue

[acoustic dune]

god i hate the cold

can someone heat me up

[hearty nebula]

no

Turns u into popsicle

[twin wagon]

Skill issue

Zealot crutch too strong

[twin wagon]

Ok

But what about pus hardened ragers

[grizzled aspen]

I frankly do not care, ogryn turns my brain off and what happens while my brain is off is not my problem.

[kindred pier]

This skin for the thunder hammer makes it look like a freakin toy

I didnt get mastery 20 for this crap 🥲

[silver stag]

You'll take your bonk hammer toy and like it

[visual stream]

Ironhelm default skin is already perfection though

No need for improvement

[grizzled aspen]

@sullen forge @frozen kernel Lumii and I both will be able to queue us for true survivor attempts after reset today.

[visual stream]

(It does look silly)

[grizzled aspen]

Got to h34 clearance so my assignment is h35 today.

[hushed knoll]

FROGCAST HI ILY

[grizzled aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1325330066389078047/6plj7qwx1wae1.gif

[hushed knoll]

Ice cream sundae frog

[hearty nebula]

meat slab on a stick

meat hammer

[placid fiber]

Did someone say Meat?

[hearty nebula]

holy shit

its lady gaga

she plays darktide?

[placid fiber]

[acoustic dune]

i cant tell if its a zealot or psycher

[lament blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/diablo-butcher-demon-gif-24529685

[acoustic dune]

its a psycher

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dancing-tapping-foot-dhmis-gif-5635530

[copper hawk]

Zzz

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/status-tired-dead-haggard-gif-11733031

[acoustic dune]

i just watch 2 ogryn having problems with 3 dogs or so

they keep shoving but not attacking

[neat grove]

so does just the thunder hammer have a sweet spot?

[acoustic dune]

as in?

[neat grove]

if you swing a certain distance from whatever, it takes the head clean off

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-dr-jack-griffin-the-invisible-man-claude-rains-haha-gif-18790295

[neat grove]

its almost always the follow up hit

[placid fiber]

not 100% sure what does and doesn't make the heads fly off in darktide

[neat grove]

but i imagine not much could take a war hammer to the face

[lament blaze]

be games workshop
make the war hammer OP
profit

[placid fiber]

Yeah... you'd be having a bad day if you got one to the face

[lament blaze]

I don't think you'd be having a day at all lmao

[placid fiber]

Exactly lol

[lament blaze]

"Today is a half day"
"oh you're off from school?"
"No"

war hammer

[neat grove]

does the crusher have a crusher skin?

[hearty nebula]

definitely an ogryn

[stone fern]

what do you mean?

like does it get skins?

[hearty nebula]

if you mean a mastery skin

yes

all weapons do

[stone fern]

answer is yes to anything still

[hearty nebula]

yea

lol

[stone fern]

i really like the dlc skin for it tho

its kinda one of the best from it

[lament blaze]

i hope they get silly with the weapon skins

there's a mod for doom eternal i always use that skins the super shotgun like this lmao. too good

[stone fern]

🚬 gw wont let it happen

cheetah skin for ogryn is the most youll get

[lament blaze]

actually?

i dont war hammer so i know fuck all about games workshop except they feed off whales that buy tens of thousands of dollars of tiny bits of plastic

[stone fern]

theyre pretty serious about their brand

[lament blaze]

rip

[neat grove]

like does it have a skin where its using like a crusher head?

[neat grove]

plastic crack

[stone fern]

what

you mean the head of the enemy the crusher?

[lament blaze]

it'd be cool if different skins made you hold different talismans

[lean lark]

they wont, but you can using mods

[lament blaze]

make my boltgun say "pew pew pew pew" when it fires

[lean lark]

theres sfx mods

[hearty nebula]

FINALLY

DONE LEVELING OGRYN

now i never have to play it again

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[acoustic dune]

what about the penance?

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-gif-4963626947041558937

[misty nova]

You'll miss out on the funny

[hearty nebula]

What penance?

[acoustic dune]

ogryn penance

[hearty nebula]

Ogryn doesn't have penances dipshit

Take your meds

[acoustic dune]

attach to each class

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1143871712736333908.webp?size=96&animated=true

anyhow wanna play a match togheter?

[hearty nebula]

I eat food first

I hungy

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

guess ill go take a shit

[misty nova]

Sorry
Risking my rain rn

[acoustic dune]

God the the tide us pretty dark

Like some kind of

Darktide

[polar nexus]

Taxe 7

[acoustic dune]

all or nothing is a pretty great blessing on it

[polar nexus]

Tbh I use 3stam and 36 Stam regen all the time

[acoustic dune]

wish we had it for the knife aswell

[polar nexus]

Yeah, I ran Aon + HT + desperation for a while

[acoustic dune]

i like to run stregn blessing

[polar nexus]

Assault strikes or something like that?

[acoustic dune]

lemme check

o nvm i change it too head taker

[polar nexus]

That pen tho:(

[acoustic dune]

i just need to hit them with enough swing

i am a speed freak

IF SHARTIDE WOULD LET ME

[acoustic dune]

ferret poster

can we hab them drinking

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis can be PA light, and chainaxe

mk4 chainaxe

[fleet zealot]

torchlight 2 is fun

cause while i can't be a necromancer

i can be an engineer and make my pet bulldog "Princess" a necromancer

[acoustic dune]

so you can make a unlimited anmount of necromancer?

[lament blaze]

torchlight 2 is pretty good

[fleet zealot]

torchlight is a, unique diablo like cause you get one animal pet at the start of the game regardless of class

and you can teach them spells

[lament blaze]

it's a goofy fun time

[fleet zealot]

right now, it know Raise Skeleton, Drain Life, and Elemental Resistance Aura

[copper hawk]

Yo mama

[placid fiber]

So you pet knows how to get bones to rise

[fleet zealot]

i hope u meet a pitbull named Princess

[placid fiber]

As one should :3

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-path-of-exile-2-poe-poe-2-poe2-gif-10220168355466966859

[copper hawk]

Pathxile

[fleet zealot]

rn my internet is too choppy for poe2

[placid fiber]

Oof

[lean lark]

path of slop 2

[grizzled aspen]

That was a fucking month ago lmao.

[tidal berry]

I went with a headcrab

was a cute game but got a bit samey after a while I guess

[polar nexus]

I just realized

[lament blaze]

realizing that taking book in pubs is actually ass

[hard nexus]

oh what the hell

my bad

[fleet zealot]

yea it's kinda like

[hard nexus]

my phone was just back there already

weird

[fleet zealot]

family friendly almost

[hard nexus]

woke

[grizzled aspen]

What is he doing in there all by himself?

[acoustic dune]

jorking it prob

[tidal berry]

woke up today..

woke.

[tidal berry]

I.. guess? Idk how to put it. I'm not the biggest fan of diablo-likes either, gameplay boils down to making a build that can press a button to nuke anything in a 10 mile radius

so I'm hesitant to yap about it much cause I naturally dislike the genre

[kindred pier]

man the zealot talents are so inspired...

Finally reached level 30 on all classes (zealot being the last) and I gotta say It was the weakest feeling out of the 4

[plush estuary]

There are alot of bad talents

[kindred pier]

the only saving grace is that book is op

[plush estuary]

so its easy to make zealot feel bad

[stone fern]

take it easy on him chat

[plush estuary]

if you make a good zealot tree

it will feel alot better

[stone fern]

i love how chastise works better with other keystones than its own keystone

i love how beacon of purity is counter intuitive with marty

[twilit otter]

I had that same feeling, zealot felt very weak leveling up

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-spoderman-school-shooting-spdrmn-gif-15511792

[twilit otter]

But at 30 when you understand their mechanics qnd they are built right they can get pretty invincible

[stone fern]

even at 30 people dont understand mechanics

[hard nexus]

they work differenty

disdain is awful

sustained is amazing

[stone fern]

nooooo

disdain good

apart from the thing where you lose it if you wiff an attack

[hard nexus]

dude 5% damage is so good

[lament blaze]

zealot started feeling strong for me after i got 2x fury

[stone fern]

😭 let me cope with my stunstorm builds ok?

[hard nexus]

when u actually need that damage you dont have it

[stone fern]

😭

[lament blaze]

still 100% better than low leveling psyker

tf is a level 7 psyker gonna do

[tame sluice]

leveling vet

literally all of the good talents are at the bottom of the tree

wdyd

[twilit otter]

Well if you push difficulty sure

[stone fern]

levelling everything SUCKS

levelling is hell in this game

[twilit otter]

A lot of noob vets stay low on difficulty and play it like a first person shooter

[stone fern]

they need tutorials that you can do for xp and double xp weekends

[lament blaze]

literally all of my irl friends

I watched my mans point blank shoot a poxburster

[twilit otter]

It takes more core knowledge to play a melee class versus a ranged class while leveling early difficulties

Shooting skills are carried from other games, melee is not

[twilit otter]

Ogryn is definitely easier low level than zealot because of all the toughness return at the top of the tree

[plush estuary]

if the rachad is so good, then explain this'

[royal vortex]

i don't like games where you have to move and shoot at the same time so i never really got into darktide

[stone fern]

no chastise no puncture

[hearty nebula]

Fucking felt lmao

[stone fern]

how do people do this shit

[lament blaze]

thats why i recommend the newbs go zealot so they feel like they should be in melee most of the time

which is true for veteran as well but the noobs will intrinsically feel it when they're on zealot.

[hearty nebula]

Bringing in noobies to darktide is always funny just for the value of watching a noob

[hard nexus]

xplain this lub

[pure tree]

What does that mean

[lament blaze]

rashaad goated

[hearty nebula]

Sometimes I unironically just blow myself up to watch noobs play

[twilit otter]

Making a noob play vet and telling them they can't shoot poxwalkers is a good way to teach them the proper mechanics

[hearty nebula]

its the funniest shit ever

[pure tree]

The combat axes are actual doodoo

[lament blaze]

You can tell them all you want they aint gon listen

[tame sluice]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/QTDNYQhY4XFX0SFWRf/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b1b4e0cd6fb06b1fe1730ea38300f7e39b73f07a7c&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[twilit otter]

What

[hearty nebula]

actually, ur doodoo

[stone fern]

i need a monotone 40 year old man to make a dt tier list of all the weapons while looking very disinterested

[hearty nebula]

nooble

[kindred pier]

combat axes are great

[lament blaze]

ping me in 13 years

[pure tree]

It's true tho, combat axes are fking god awful

[hearty nebula]

this is false

[twilit otter]

This guy trolling

[tidal berry]

this is bait

[twilit otter]

.provide evidence or troll

[hearty nebula]

either that or he's mentally deficient

[pure tree]

Compare combat axes to headhunter autogun. Who gets more value?

[lament blaze]

combat axe

[pure tree]

Headhunter autogun

[hearty nebula]

yeah trolling

[lament blaze]

infinite value

[twilit otter]

Headhunter autogun zealots rise up

[tidal berry]

waiter please better bait

[lament blaze]

when you're out in the woods and need firewood

rashaad got your back

[twilit otter]

My ranged zealot loves headhunter autogun

[tidal berry]

fr though I miss seeing headhunters

vraks 3 was kinda popping around P13

then they turbonerfed it the following patch because of veteran rending

[lament blaze]

antax combat axe + vraks infantry autogun was my first setup

[twilit otter]

They are fun guns. I enjoyed them while doing mastery penances

[tame sluice]

headhunter exe stance vet

[kindred pier]

bullets suck, embrace lasgun supremacy

[tame sluice]

one shot bodyshot every shooter

[lament blaze]

lasgun zzzzzzzz

do not FEAR recoil

[pure tree]

Well now here's something true

Infantry lasgun is especially slept on

[tidal berry]

yeah if you build exe-mf that even infantry autogun starts one tapping

[twilit otter]

Here's my headhunter autogun build

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[twilit otter]

Rashad and headhunter autogun

[stone fern]

just like fatshark intended

[twilit otter]

Support ranged zealot

[stone fern]

curios 3x toughness

[twilit otter]

3x wounds

It's a martyrdom build afterall

[tidal berry]

I love how terrible zealot ult variety is

[twilit otter]

Capstone or F?

[fleet zealot]

why would you go ranged zealot

with the one keystone

[hushed knoll]

Hello Cladthony

[fleet zealot]

that doesn't buff range

[hard nexus]

finger wag

[fleet zealot]

like come on

at least off meta properly

[stone fern]

hi

[opal star]

no talent ranged zealot

[hushed knoll]

What did you have for lunch/dinner

[stone fern]

nothing yet

[hushed knoll]

[stone fern]

mainly cigs and coffee

i had chicken nuggest for breakfast tho

[hushed knoll]

That sounds like an ulcer waiting to happen

OMG NO MORE SALUTING FACE

😠

[twilit otter]

🫡

[stone fern]

its ok ill heat up some stew soon

[hushed knoll]

Oooo what’s in the stew

Oh my hod

[stone fern]

i dont remember

[hushed knoll]

God

You guys are triggering me 😠

Banned

[kindred pier]

what should I spend my last point on

[hushed knoll]

[plush estuary]

oh my

[opal star]

let's kill him

[stone fern]

masters retribution

[kindred pier]

more book more good

[plush estuary]

1 point wont change anything with this build, but if you want there are builds that have the same abilites and are alot better in performance

[twilit otter]

Are we still trolling

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[fleet zealot]

it doesn't give you more book

[tame sluice]

okay so I've barely ever played zealot how do you actually build this class

because man this skill tree layout is a mess

[fleet zealot]

drop shared crit chance and damage boost on book, drop martyrs purpose and the hp node (the attack speed is good)

get duelist

[fleet zealot]

it's really not

[twilit otter]

Book build

[fleet zealot]

someone has the "default build" saved

[tame sluice]

book boring

[fleet zealot]

STOP augmenting fucking book

you are already taxed once

[north sedge]

B-ball is dead

[fleet zealot]

no one builds around your toughness DR

[copper hawk]

https://youtu.be/JSh5MhAQch0?si=l0GY4Ca3OUvSs6Px

[kindred pier]

Im no 1 blades of faith hater unfortunately

[copper hawk]

Who wanna drink raw milk w me

[stone fern]

what about my build?

[copper hawk]

Any germ theory deniers in chat

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-shitting-cats-two-cats-toilet-2-cats-gif-16736555535898909183

[stone fern]

ive drank raw milk

its fine

[hearty nebula]

But ur a germ?

[fleet zealot]

i know ur trolling

[hearty nebula]

and sure I'll drink raw milk

I'll use the leftovers for butter and cheese

:3

[fleet zealot]

half of raw milk is still pasteurized cause we aren't entirely stupid as a species

[twilit otter]

This build unironically works

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-what-da-hell-little-big-planet-what-ayo-what-gif-13768843195184919620

[tame sluice]

okay lets say hypothetically

[hearty nebula]

no

shut up

[tame sluice]

I wanted to use fire grenades, book, and crit keystone

how

[hearty nebula]

magic

i just know

[fleet zealot]

or get good with throwing knives

so you don't waste all your points on pathing

[tame sluice]

I am good with throwing knives

[kindred pier]

Is the shared crit chance bad? I like boosting my teammates

[fleet zealot]

missing 10% attack speed and sustained assault cause you taxed yourself 4x on top

[tame sluice]

I have barely played zealot I need to do their penances

[fleet zealot]

yes

boosting your teammates is bad

[tame sluice]

also yeah I definitely the fucking tax nodes

[fleet zealot]

no one builds around your boosts

if they are a build that wants to crit, they already have crit

[twilit otter]

Learn to use them. Rebind the key if you havent

[fleet zealot]

so the actual impact of your "boosts" is basically 0

[twilit otter]

Wildest take ever

[fleet zealot]

scuba ur a resident noob

[tame sluice]

oh I actually don't have any of the right tree penances

[fleet zealot]

chorus and goldent toughness good

[kindred pier]

10% crit chance isn't nothing

[tame sluice]

guess that means loner aura backstab time

eugh

[fleet zealot]

it is

meaningful ttk and meaningful breakpoints

10% crit does relatively nothing

if the vet wants to crit, they will have recip, deadshot, etc

if psyker wants to crit they will have true aim

the BEST way to support your team

is to improve your personal performance

[kindred pier]

still gonna run it

[fleet zealot]

taxing yourself to "help" your team instead of getting more personal survivability and damage is just not worth it the way darktide is made

yes you will still run it

that's basically me expectation everytime i give build advice

[twilit otter]

Your build is taking a team TDR for personal damage

Including yourself

[fleet zealot]

you take benediction because it's the best pathing, and imo best aura outside of beacon for havoc/corruption heavy runs

[twilit otter]

Tf are you talking about, my build has benediction

[hearty nebula]

Unfortunately it's true

[fleet zealot]

yes

[twilit otter]

1 point for TDR is not a tax

[fleet zealot]

"your build is taking a team tdr for personal damage"

oh wait

the chorus?

lol yes it is

TDR has diminishing returns

[visual stream]

Why does wind give good head

Because it knows how to blow

[fleet zealot]

most every player you play with at a high level already has built around solving their breakpoints and time to kill

[twilit otter]

It's not a damage buff though what the fuck are you talking about

[fleet zealot]

if your boosts don't give a meaningful breakpoint/tkk boost, it's not impactful

[twilit otter]

It's a tdr buff

[fleet zealot]

i'm talking about multiple things noob

[fleet zealot]

are you talking benediction or what? Name the fuckin ability instead of vague

[twilit otter]

You keep saying the tdr buff on chorus is a tax and then cite breakpoints

Stop moving the goalposts

[stone fern]

its a taxpoint

[fleet zealot]

yes it is a tax

[visual stream]

Looked at what this conversation started from and the boosted crit chance wouldn't be nearly as bad if it was more than like.. 4% or something

[fleet zealot]

anything that goes out of your way without furthering your progression in your tree to other nodes is a tax

[stone fern]

if it quacks like a tax point

its a tax point

[twilit otter]

There is no halted progression. Team TDR is worth a single point investment

[fleet zealot]

stagger and suppression is a forced tax point, because it's abnormal for abilities to force you to get a subnode to path further

[fleet zealot]

no it's not

[stone fern]

its a tax point

[fleet zealot]

it requires a full channel (not optimal in a lot of situations) and stacks multiplicatively with their source of DR and TDR

[stone fern]

can you go down to other stuff without it?

[visual stream]

Ermm technically a tax point is one that you take to get to something meaningful intentionally

So Chorus TDR isn't a tax, it's a self-inflicted nerf

[stone fern]

chat

double his tax points

[lean lark]

30% tdr chorus isnt bad, isnt good, its an option

[tame sluice]

is this adequate for a zealot

[twilit otter]

The entire concept high level havoc teams is that everyone sacrifices personal damage for team survival

[fleet zealot]

basically the standard meta martyrdom

[fleet zealot]

?

[visual stream]

What weapons are you using this with

Can change it slightly depending on that I think

[tame sluice]

probably combat axe/relic blade tbh

[fleet zealot]

if you are playing high level havoc then you want damage beacon (if you tkae any tax node)

[twilit otter]

Bubble sacrifices personal damage

[tame sluice]

or knife

[fleet zealot]

yes but havoc requires bubble

[twilit otter]

So does taking chorus

[fleet zealot]

lol

dumbest gotcha ever

[tame sluice]

veteran VoC sacrifices damage

infiltrate and exe stance both get more damage than it

[fleet zealot]

havoc requires you to use abilities that you need

[twilit otter]

Your argument is contradictory

[fleet zealot]

haha no

[fleet zealot]

no it isn't

there is a stark difference between golden toughness/bubble and 30% tdr going through diminishing returns

[visual stream]

Veteran VoC actually helps you get damage with how much CC it applies to everything but I see what you're getting at

[stone fern]

VoC is a short term cool down ability to apply a shit ton of team buffs

[twilit otter]

Yes, it goes fundamentally against how people build for havoc

[fleet zealot]

if you are in havoc and you are taxing yourself, you take damage chorus at least to help your team with the increased enemy hp

[stone fern]

the shield isnt even the main point of it

[fleet zealot]

infilitrate gives no damage unless you tax yourself, and exec stance just isn't good

voc clears space and activates all your red on ability nodes

[visual stream]

For the point worth's sake, VoC is worth it, Chorus is worth it, and Bubble is worth it but upgrading Chorus TDR is not very much

That's how I see it

[lean lark]

havoc doesnt need bubble

[stone fern]

exi stance is a worse version of PBB

[lean lark]

bubble is just overpowered for havoc

[fleet zealot]

i know

[fleet zealot]

i also know

[lean lark]

just say its a very good choice instead of needed

if you already know

[stone fern]

bubble is not overpowered for havoc the fading light shit makes it necessary

[fleet zealot]

it's possible to do havoc without it, but it's really OP for the gamemode.

but voice is 100% what i'm trying to get at

[stone fern]

🙄 its also possible to do a maelstrom with grey weapons

[fleet zealot]

golden toughness is impactful, mass CC is impactful

small boosts on top of others existing boosts are not

[placid fiber]

being able to tank things you normally can't is so useful sometimes

like a crusher overhead/poxburster/sniper shot

It's not something you rely on, but, when it happens it is nice

[fleet zealot]

yes, and golden toughness already does that

[visual stream]

TDR on top of golden toughness and 8 seconds of CC when you can take just the golden toughness and CC isn't very worth your points on a tree as taxed as zealot's

[placid fiber]

That's what I am getting at x.x

[fleet zealot]

yeppers

[placid fiber]

I didn't specify, my bad

I was on the golden toughness hype train

[visual stream]

Do not mention Iron Will because Iron Will's TDR is certainly worth it and synergizes with golden toughness and Vet's insane generation

On a non-taxed tree too I should mention

[placid fiber]

Yeah iron will with golden toughness lets you do so much stupidity

[fleet zealot]

yea iron will is 50% right off the bat

[placid fiber]

50%

[fleet zealot]

and works while golden toughness is active

[placid fiber]

50% above 75% toughness

[visual stream]

75% vs. 30% is not a competition

[tidal berry]

veterans damage isnt tied to VoC

or any ult for that matter

[tidal berry]

you have separate ult dmg modifiers that you can take regardless of ult choice

and arguably VoC gives you best uptime on those ult modifiers

[visual stream]

Oh oops it's 50% vs. 30%

[fleet zealot]

10% base damage

juicy

[fleet zealot]

it's also uptime and oppurtunity cost

[lean lark]

this is what i run on my hav40 zealot

[visual stream]

Still too big of a gap

[visual stream]

With what weapons?

[lean lark]

relic blade flamer

[tidal berry]

VoC is not comparable to chorus/bubble, its a defensive ult you can easily use offensively

[visual stream]

I'm wondering why no IJ stacks on dodge

[lean lark]

not needed

[visual stream]

I see

[fleet zealot]

the best way to use chorus is to cancel it when the golden toughness is maxed out so you don't drop

[placid fiber]

I only know this because I was on vet a little bit ago going ham with the bolter lol

[fleet zealot]

wouldn't it literally be needed

not a lot of room to move around

[lean lark]

ive ran ij since talent trees launch and never needed ij stacks on dodge

[fleet zealot]

how else would you build up stacks

lol

ok dawn

[lean lark]

you can just run around and slide to get stacks

very ardous task

[visual stream]

In the middle of a fight is a lot of wasted damage

No matter what way you slice it I believe IJ on dodge is more optimal

[acoustic dune]

if zealot got voc i can imagine how op that would be

proc it every 5 second

or so

[tidal berry]

zealot only has one fun ult

unfortunately

tbh vet was in similar boat but exe is pretty solid rn

[lean lark]

that same damage i get by just being at 0 stam (desperation)

[tidal berry]

maybe not havoc worthy but I feel that probably has more to do with toughness generation

an easily fixable issue

[acoustic dune]

i am a chorus player i use it to push stuff of a cliff

like a cat

[tidal berry]

the only respectable use of chorus

[acoustic dune]

un in horde of gunner

chorus them

[fleet zealot]

i'm goign to be honest

[acoustic dune]

krill

[fleet zealot]

even if it was possible

i'm not going to run IJ without dodge charges

[tidal berry]

I do run it with dodge charges because why wouldn't I want better uptime on it?

Already dodge a fuckton to enable like %90 of zealot's damage steroids

[acoustic dune]

i wish i could be more speedy as a zealot

[tidal berry]

and other defensive things that also proc on dodge

weapon blessings that proc on dodge

[acoustic dune]

how could a psycher the glass canon of all class

be faster then i

[tidal berry]

tighter spread/recoil that procs on dodge

[visual stream]

Which is a bit of a task on relic blade, but if that's how you wanna parse it then you do you

[tidal berry]

its moronic not to spec more into stuff that proc on dodge

its an autowin for zealot

[visual stream]

I was wondering if that was supposed to be the substitute

[acoustic dune]

arlight i am in a drawing mood

what should i draw

i swear to god if you say amogus

[tidal berry]

veteran has like a single talent t hat procs off of dodge and ppl make entire builds off of it lmao

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

fine

ill do a quicky

[visual stream]

What kind of stuff do you normally draw

[acoustic dune]

rannick and who again?

[visual stream]

Morrow

[tidal berry]

draw boykisser

do it

[acoustic dune]

sure

[visual stream]

But Rannick is the one who is 🫃

[placid fiber]

just run zealot without a keystone smh my head

[lean lark]

my builds are made for my playstyle so i dont expect others to understand

[tidal berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940312476749275156/1305617320277966918/image_2024-10-21_201130268.gif

[stone fern]

GET OUT I WANNA DO LAUNDRY

[placid fiber]

I can respect this, and for havoc 40 I know cuts have to be made. So you do you

[tidal berry]

nuh uh

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-talking-reply-gif-24471552

[twin wagon]

Anyone got a clip of boss killing knife?

[tidal berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917682677279232045/1035476076060753980/attachment-2-1-1.gif

[placid fiber]

You guys keep speaking eachother

It's like you share the same brain head

[fleet zealot]

i can evolve my pitbull into a molebeast

it's permanent

dare I?

[acoustic dune]

god my machine hate it when i use the colourisation tool

[placid fiber]

Yes

why? cuz a molebeast sounds awesome

[fleet zealot]

yea now it has a multiple stun abilities

[placid fiber]

[fleet zealot]

which works cause I shock any enemies that get stunned while near me

[placid fiber]

This post was made by Molebeast gang... or smthing like that

[hearty nebula]

i just ran into a bleed knife smyker

😭

[zinc talon]

PERTEC

LIDLWUNS

[acoustic dune]

EY OKRI

what should i draw

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-7099278856497118059

[zinc talon]

sure was polite of him to know he was cooked and just stand there for the last shield pop

[zinc talon]

what subject are ya thinkin

[acoustic dune]

madness

[zinc talon]

where's the creativity sittin

[acoustic dune]

the insanity of

smth

[zinc talon]

tzeench eyeball flying disk

or nurgle chaos spawn but that's a lot of specific anatomic drawing

misshapen arms and whatnot, not fun to hash out

[acoustic dune]

so japenese tentacle

[zinc talon]

zeench flying disk is nice and geometric and you can work in mandelas and other fractal design stuff into it if you want

[acoustic dune]

pervert

[zinc talon]

or it can be a big nasty eyeball with a fanged mouth on the bottom

[zinc talon]

I am not a pervert, I am a connoseuir

https://tenor.com/view/it's-called-and-it's-art-it's-called-and-it's-art-stanley-hudson-stanley-gif-11971437176779054052

ran my first havoc 40 last play session

after only playing like mid 20s then never touching havoc again for two or three weeks

https://tenor.com/view/idk-gif-18891669

[copper hawk]

:<

[copper hawk]

Ur projecting

Gooners BEGONE !

[zinc talon]

that tuft of fur over the fly is both LEWD and somehow needed

(I do not do the furry thing at all I have zero appreciation of the genre)

^my havoc 40 experience

[placid fiber]

I am sorry for your loss(of sanity)...

[acoustic dune]

@zinc talon

i drew them as wamen

[zinc talon]

I like the vague nature of your sketches

[muted quail]

Hellolo, is this where I can ask for penance help?

[acoustic dune]

europe?

[zinc talon]

everything's hazy and forces you to put the dimentions together yourself

[acoustic dune]

america>

[muted quail]

Yup

[zinc talon]

so each person's gonna get a different mental image when they think of it

[muted quail]

Europe

[zinc talon]

which penance

[acoustic dune]

#vox-lfg-emea here

[muted quail]

Just a flesh wound and maybe shocking stuff

[muted quail]

Ahh, thanks

[zinc talon]

as an ogryn I am not required to remember the names of things

what do you need to kill

[jagged cradle]

But I just got here

[acoustic dune]

LIKE A TRUE CULTIST

[zinc talon]

I can come babysit the heretics while you work

[acoustic dune]

imma go make nurgle boob bigger now

[muted quail]

Heresy threat or higher with one wound in 20 minutes and 40 enemies stunned by grenades in 10 seconds

[zinc talon]

careful you'll start getting paid requests for that sorrta thing

I can help with the one wound thing sure, just keep near me

I'll keep you alive

[muted quail]

Thank youuu ❤️

[zinc talon]

my # is in my name lemme get logged in and geared

prolly best to do the lowest tier difficulty the penance will allow for yeah

[acoustic dune]

as if they could find me in the first place

[zinc talon]

I foresee a future of golden toilets and drawing ten thousand feet

[tidal berry]

lmao nice

[acoustic dune]

@zinc talon

[copper hawk]

Furry

[visual stream]

Where's Morricknant

/j do not create that

[acoustic dune]

i am drawing nurgle

if gurl

[visual stream]

Nice art skills though

[acoustic dune]

and the other chaos god

[visual stream]

Ohh that's supposed to be the cauldron?

The drink

[acoustic dune]

khorn

[acoustic dune]

ye

[acoustic dune]

I AM NOT EVEN DRAWING FURRY

[zinc talon]

LIDLWUN PERTECTID

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-8285970240646611836

[muted quail]

Thank you Okri ❤️

Now that it's loaded I saw that it did not unlock

[opal star]

the strongest of all heretics.. map geometry

[acoustic dune]

what should i draw lads

how do i even draw slaneshh

[vocal pulsar]

@merry flume

watching the ps5 player gameplay is painful

[stone fern]

now draw them ||happy__||

[acoustic dune]

its da chaos god lad

what i got right now

[stone fern]

damn nice

im assuming tzwhatever khorn and nurgle?

[acoustic dune]

question is how should i draw slanesh

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-offensive-rude-sarcasm-sassy-insulted-gif-15291606

[acoustic dune]

aye

[zinc talon]

you draw the human form very well

it's impressive how much anatomical drawing you can just do on the fly

[stone fern]

draw her the same but reverse the boob and chest sides

[zinc talon]

the person flexing is really well done on form and proprtion

[acoustic dune]

well i was still planning to draw slanesh as a twinnk

[stone fern]

🚬 just make the thights thick

[acoustic dune]

muscle grouping is still wack but

but i love me muscle

[misty nova]

Subvert expectations

[stone fern]

did you study anatomy?

[misty nova]

Draw Slanny Flat

[acoustic dune]

i am a freak when it come to anatomy

so yes

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-his-pizza-into-squares-cut-pizza-pizza-squares-gif-12519099119807951061

[zinc talon]

it's okay just see a doctor about it

they have pills and treatments

[stone fern]

i have a friend whos alright at drawing but refuses to draw anything aside from like 1 thing every 7 months

im trying to encourge her but she keeps yapping about not knowing anatomy

[zinc talon]

then take the form and proportion angle

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-pizza-yummy-favorite-food-bread-chubangster-gif-26149607

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

[zinc talon]

'even if you don't, it comes out looking correct'

'so you don't need to know anatomy'

that kinda thing

[acoustic dune]

i wanna touch muscle

[stone fern]

i tried everything 🚬

[acoustic dune]

i wanna touch muscle and study them

[stone fern]

ehm ehm

touch this 💪

[acoustic dune]

tell her to draw in public place

i used to draw in public transport on the way too school

help get sillouette right

also if she use twitter i have some link and shit

that i horde

[stone fern]

🚬

i told her to start with basic stuff like furniture around her to practice and be less anxious

she didnt wanna do it 😠

[acoustic dune]

dude if i was in your place

i would sit there and draw with her

mostly so i can be a snub about it

also tell her to learn perspective aswell

[stone fern]

genius

shell see me draw laugh so hard shell never feel bad about her drawings

[acoustic dune]

if you want for anatomy

i have a pdf that i use as my anchor point

[fleet zealot]

they should add death ferrets to darktide

Brahms could have them on her vessel since she's a rogue trader

[stone fern]

willingness isnt there yet so it wont matter

[stone fern]

tbh she seems like she would have a pet

[copper hawk]

Knavish creature

Today's mood

[visual stream]

Is that a real thing in lore?

[fleet zealot]

yes

it was a single rogue trader model release

iirc

[merry flume]

your drip is immaculate

[visual stream]

That sounds awesome

I LOVE TAMING AND CARING FOR BEASTS 💪

[maiden forge]

Now draw her secretly controlling the OF populace

[vocal pulsar]

thanks bro

i feel like a sexual weapon wearing it

[maiden forge]

Veri cool

Hot take I think slannesh started asmr

POV you get your head bashed in by a frying pan from your commissar type shit

[acoustic dune]

slanesh and nurgle making bath water

(they are taking a shower)

[maiden forge]

(Unheard of)

Very epic tho

Heart emoji reaction

[acoustic dune]

(she was promised to get rotting food)

[obsidian prairie]

That bath would probably kill anyone who got near the block it was on

[maiden forge]

Luckily it’s the warp so it only really tzeench and khorn have to deal with it

[maiden forge]

Cat

[acoustic dune]

smyker live reaction

[obsidian prairie]

Smyker when 1 (one) poxwalker attacks them from behind

[maiden forge]

Smykers when their shitty little lightning chain connects to nurgle

Who would win in a 1v1 tho fr An assail psyker or tzeench

And tzeench is just making sure it only ever hits carapace

[acoustic dune]

THE WHOLE CREW

[maiden forge]

Fair

[obsidian prairie]

Oh my gods I just realized it was DAMNATION!!! and not a candle or something kill me

[acoustic dune]

yarp

i put it a bird on tzench head

[frozen kernel]

Oh BOY

Prepare yourself

[maiden forge]

Dog