shit fartfrown
#zealot-class
royal vortex
they hear the beetle and they immediately lose all higher brain functions
it's incredible
hard nexus
i wish i didn’t suck at hunt showdown
hearty nebula
vague depot
do you mind if i play like a piece of shit with knife for penances
hearty nebula
hard nexus
they hear the beetle and they immediately lose all higher brain functions
my enemies are actually smart n just shoot it
:(
royal vortex
this is why you bring 4
vocal hatch
do you mind if i play like a piece of shit with knife for penances
Sure
north sedge
royal vortex
https://streamable.com/2o3yx5
this is only like 1/3rd as funny as Shane
north sedge
Lol
sullen forge
fallen off of pvp games
You fell off
visual stream
Back when I stayed up until 5 I popped into some Australian streamer's streams for Hunt
hard nexus
You fell off
you stink
royal vortex
the trick is to embody ancient trickster spirits and conjure up the most annoying ways to play the game and simply not care that u reside in a 3 star cesspit
hard nexus
true
visual stream
Seemed like cool game but never tried
royal vortex
i had a great deal of fun with concterina/frag arrow bows just trying to make the team stuck in a barn have the most annoying game possible
grizzled aspen
Oh if only you saw the things he said in dorncord the other day...
hard nexus
Oh if only you saw the things he said in dorncord the other day...
terrible server
hearty nebula
I'm glad I'm not in there
grizzled aspen
I finally forced Dorn to make a concrete goalpost for what he considers skilled though.
visual stream
Ogryn has the best melee weapons in the game
grizzled aspen
Quote, "clear havoc 40 without duelling sword or knife."
visual stream
(they might mean pickaxes and shovels but I'm gonna pretend they're including the bully clubs)
grizzled aspen
Pickaxes are insane.
hearty nebula
i would not call any of them "the best in the game"
fleet zealot
Ogryn has the best melee weapons in the game
2 of the best imo
Shield and karsolas pick
hearty nebula
Like when it comes to elite deletion sure
they're pretty aight
nothing to scoff at
coarse birch
Pickaxes are p high up there
fleet zealot
Branx is great deletion but it’s niche
misty nova
(they might mean pickaxes and shovels but I'm gonna pretend they're including th...
Bully Clubs are good at bullying and clubbing (one target at a time)
fleet zealot
Bosses
misty nova
fleet zealot
Elites
visual stream
I've seen a good ogryn on a Karsolas once I believe and he ran through murdering everything better than any DSlot I've ever seen
stone fern
TARGET THE ELITES
fleet zealot
There isn’t anything kars can’t solve in melee
visual stream
It was insane
stone fern
THERE ARE ELITES AMONG THEM
visual stream
Among us?
sullen forge
Quote, "clear havoc 40 without duelling sword or knife."
I’ve hit the point of clarity of just realizing Havocs artificial difficulty of deflating your HP and toughness is just fucking miserable
sterile basalt
Ogryn has the best melee weapons in the game
Ogryn’s top melee weapons are strong (but there’re only 2)
stone fern
i hope they never fix the funny voice spam mods
visual stream
Yeah I hate game design where it's just "make bigger number"
sullen forge
Ogryn’s top melee weapons are strong (but there’re only 2)
Pickaxe and Shield
coarse birch
I’ve hit the point of clarity of just realizing Havocs artificial difficulty of ...
Tbf its damn near the most they can do if they dont want to just kneecap us
visual stream
FUCK YOU
coarse birch
I do enjoy shooters being a threat tho
sterile basalt
Pickaxe and Shield
Karsolas / shield
misty nova
I find it hilarious that Karsolas is considered the light pickaxe according to Sotmg patch notes
gleaming furnace
Karsolas / shield
It’s actually karsolas/a slightly different karsolas
sterile basalt
Shield is a utility weapon that also does well into melee elites and horde clear
stone fern
Shield is a utility weapon that also does well into melee elites and horde clear
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1322606704734634034/8mb.video-k04-aXxJ77XG.mp4?ex=677eabfb&is=677d5a7b&hm=99d379a395f03e7bed3b0b038b1e261daaba4f60e4b5a9bb1d4e906aeed63b82&
good for everything except carapace and unyielding
dull matrix
good shieldryns are cracked af at the game. hard carries
sterile basalt
Shield can 4 hit crushers I believe?
stone fern
look at the video
sterile basalt
Base game crushers
stone fern
LOOK
dull matrix
your not using the shield right tho
hearty nebula
stone fern
your not using the shield right tho
block cancel makes no difference when there are that many enemies
misty nova
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1322606704734634034/8...
I'll just say that's my boy Opportunist
stone fern
i was trying to bleed max
stone fern
I'll just say that's my boy Opportunist
i tested it with path
dull matrix
1h spam is way quicker with block cancel
stone fern
opportunist is shit
misty nova
opportunist is shit
Nuh uh
sullen forge
I don’t mind the modifiers at all of havoc
I just don’t like the huge removal of toughness or hp margins
sullen forge
FL is fine
sterile basalt
I don’t mind the modifiers at all of havoc
Pus hardened can be better
stone fern
it just makes the game a ride the psyker simulator
sullen forge
The reduction is annoying
lean lark
it'd be arguably even easier if tough and hp werent lowered down (given everyone runs chorus bubble or voc, or all three in a party)
havoc is missing more unique modifiers
stone fern
i dont enjoy bubble hopping all game
sterile basalt
I also think Moebian 21st groaners maybe don’t need to get the health boost
dull matrix
ya moebians fuck hard
sullen forge
21st are fine
misty nova
Nah opportunist is bad
I'll still be here 2 shotting batter stuff
dull matrix
small tweaks. i think its fine overall tbh
sullen forge
It’s literally just the reduction
sterile basalt
21st are fine
If you have a psyker yea
misty nova
lean lark
relic blade handles 21st (with wrath rampage) very easily
sullen forge
The HP and Toughness reductions are the only issue I have cause the combo of faster shooters in FL will instantly delete anyone
sterile basalt
I'll still be here 2 shotting batter stuff
Unfortunately opportunist just scales way worse than skullcrusher
And that’s assuming you don’t have the rending on elite kill node
dull matrix
there needs to be a reduction though otherwise its to easy. i enjoy the difficulty now that im used to it
lean lark
they should just make some maelstorm modifiers into havoc modifiers (for the sake of having more modifiers available)
dull matrix
^
coarse birch
I don’t mind the modifiers at all of havoc
Id be ok with regular toughness and keep reduced toughness regen from talents etc
lean lark
pox gas (tox bombers)
gleaming furnace
Literally no one lol
lean lark
satan crafted modifier
misty nova
Unfortunately opportunist just scales way worse than skullcrusher
And that’s as...
Not using Dominate would be weird
25 from Opportunist
5 from node
10 from dominate
sterile basalt
Not using Dominate would be weird
In which case skullcrusher scales even better as it’s a separate bracket of damage bonus from ADM
lean lark
nurgle's blessing + pus hardened would be funny
sullen forge
Id be ok with regular toughness and keep reduced toughness regen from talents et...
Reduced toughness regen is alright
The flat removal of chunks permanently though is cancer
misty nova
In which case skullcrusher scales even better as it’s a separate bracket of dama...
Guess I was right on dropping BM for Skullcrusher and Opportunist
dull matrix
isnt BM required for cleave?
sterile basalt
Guess I was right on dropping BM for Skullcrusher and Opportunist <:chadgryn:116...
Nah BM is way better
vague depot
@vocal hatch sorry that took a while are you still here
stone fern
:( i've been verifying for like... 30 minutes now...
why did you let it verify?
hearty nebula
because i keep getting horrible desyncs
coarse birch
The flat removal of chunks permanently though is cancer
Tis fair
misty nova
But turns out I can just 1 shot chaff and 2 shot cara and bleed does the rest
stone fern
oh dude its easier to just delete all the small size files and let it redownload
grizzled aspen
I’ve hit the point of clarity of just realizing Havocs artificial difficulty of ...
Quite literally Dorn said fuck ethics when it comes to havoc because me and Lumii were bullying him about using the exact same tools as we do.
hearty nebula
sullen forge
because i keep getting horrible desyncs
Wdym don’t you love teleporting into the dog you clearly dodged and getting pounced anyways cause fuck you
hearty nebula
wasn't even holding any keys
hard nexus
Nah BM is way better
rending for bleed though
hearty nebula
game is just like "hey we're gonna have you stand in this burgle vomit for us rq"
sterile basalt
rending for bleed though
Yea unfortunately +80% damage scales better
red swift
game punishing you for that third person mod
sullen forge
Quite literally Dorn said fuck ethics when it comes to havoc because me and Lumi...
I don’t let that shit bother me cause I mean yeah it’s blatant hypocrisy
hearty nebula
oh dude its easier to just delete all the small size files and let it redownload
yea
fleet zealot
sullen forge
I’m just getting H40 and True and then the assists for 53rd
And then not touching havoc unless it’s like for the weekly drops
hard nexus
Yea unfortunately +80% damage scales better
yeah that’s why you take opportunist and skullcrusher
dummy
misty nova
sterile basalt
yeah that’s why you take opportunist and skullcrusher
Nah, BM is just way better than opportunist for cleave distribution
hard nexus
Nah, BM is just way better than opportunist for cleave distribution
yeah but rending and skullcrusher for bleed damage
infinite cleave on h2
infinite horde clear
fleet zealot
yea i've seen oppurtunist
sterile basalt
BM is the only way to transfer first target damage between maulers
hard nexus
BM is the only way to transfer first target damage between maulers
cleave with h2 and bleed
stone fern
its not exactly infinite
hard nexus
stone fern
its high but not infinite
sterile basalt
cleave with h2 and bleed
Doesn’t go through carapace
hard nexus
Doesn’t go through carapace
hit the body
stone fern
BM is still the best option for a second blessing skullcrusher or some meme blocking blessinf if you wanna go that route
sterile basalt
hit the body
That’s more up to chance with how shield’s hit reg works
hard nexus
That’s more up to chance with how shield’s hit reg works
not me though
i personally am perfect
sterile basalt
not me though
Yea we know you’re special
fleet zealot
its high but not infinite
it is
fleet zealot
shield h2 is infinite if you don't hit cara/shield
sterile basalt
its high but not infinite
AFAIK the infinite cleave stuff is actually infinite cleave but game has some sort of innate cap on how many enemies can be hit by a single attack
It’s like 128 enemies
stone fern
shield h2 is infinite if you don't hit cara/shield
shoulda said that
misty nova
It’s like 128 enemies
Lmao
stone fern
did breakpoint calc get updated yet?
fleet zealot
so chances are, you are only going to transfer first target damage once
sterile basalt
did breakpoint calc get updated yet?
No
misty nova
did breakpoint calc get updated yet?
Nope
fleet zealot
doesn't matter, shield H2 hasn't changed
sterile basalt
It’s not wholly accurate and I don’t use it much now
misty nova
Missing blessings weapons
stone fern
doesn't matter, shield H2 hasn't changed
ye i was asking in general
misty nova
The second highest cleave would probably belong to cleavers yeah? 28.1
The highest is infinite 
Wish cleavers were good
misty nova
🗣️
fleet zealot
if only cleavers had headtaker
stone fern
not even headtaker can fix em
stone fern
eh
river jackal
Is Heavy Eviscerator a good all purpose melee?
misty nova
15 yes
misty nova
clearly they need to have sunder from the power sword
Ahem Unstoppable Force ahem
stone fern
mark 3 evi is good too its just a little bit under tuned
stone fern
i like its animations more
misty nova
Get a Xiiig instead of the 3
vague depot
Does the trapper and flamer count as a ranged unit
stone fern
ignoring damage and stats tell me mk3 doesnt feel more like an evi
twilit otter
Does the trapper and flamer count as a ranged unit
In what context
vague depot
penance that requires backstab kills on ranged enemies while alone using loner
twilit otter
Stretch out and kill shooter packs you get it in no time
hard nexus
ignoring damage and stats tell me mk3 doesnt feel more like an evi
wdym
just moveset n all?
hard nexus
Why does MK II Relic Blade H1 and H2 just
slow chain time probably
red swift
Feels fine to me
stone fern
just moveset n all?
yes i think it has a better moveset
river jackal
I'm just used to weapons feeling more fluid than this
hard nexus
usually do 3 lights to get to the horde clear
stone fern
it feels like a real evi
red swift
I’m once a again a believer of Cranial + Wrath over Rampage
hard nexus
it feels like a real evi
yeah agreed
hard nexus
yeah
red swift
I think
hard nexus
It’s 3 gotta get to the vanguard slice
wait isn’t it
l1 l2 into h2 l3
i know it from muscle memory
i just
can’t visualize it
hard nexus
yeah
red swift
Oh well
hard nexus
that’s l1 and l2
misty nova
I’m once a again a believer of Cranial + Wrath over Rampage
I'm too strength pilled to agree
However havoc likes wrath
red swift
Blowing myself up on barrels with martyrdom makes relic blade 10x as enjoyable with the attack speed
hard nexus
i gotta try marty relic
misty nova
Common martyrdom w
vague depot
It’s peak
hard nexus
it’s swag
red swift
Another person ragequit my high havoc today when he saw I was charge martyrdom over chorus
misty nova
🗣️
red swift
It’s happening a lot more
red swift
IoD still works well enough
hard nexus
IoD still works well enough
with wrath and chastise to force crits and scourge
red swift
I’ve found the best perk setup is unyielding/elites with a martyr relic blade, I’m pretty sure
stone fern
nah its great
red swift
I’ve tried crit chance over elites too
hard nexus
and a lot of work
stone fern
its really not
hard nexus
its really not
shut up i’m right
lean lark
how many wounds does a hav40 crusher go through against a full hp martyr build
hard nexus
probably all
red swift
Bolter puncture is the waayyy
misty nova
IoD still works well enough
I could use those 3 points for something else
I just don't know what atm
red swift
Suppress them on the way towards them, get those kills and scourge stacks
lean lark
i dont believe it'll go through all since 40% dr each time an attack breaks past a wound treshold
misty nova
Tknife puncture time
grizzled aspen
I dont think that's how that talent works.
red swift
Annoint/purge and disdain, or good balance and Twbs. But those aren’t better than IoD in my experience trying those talents
hard nexus
I could use those 3 points for something else
I just don't know what atm
twbs good balance DoD
red swift
I’ve tried a non IoD martyr build but IoD it just tooooo good man
stone fern
ye i started taking it instead of twbs
red swift
Tknife can puncture if you have your puncture weapon out
stone fern
ye
red swift
Bolter shot + tknife hit can hit a lot of BPs in havoc
hard nexus
tknives should inflict one stack of bleed by default imo
red swift
I unironically use it a lot
stone fern
tknives should inflict one stack of bleed by default imo
listening to u inflects 1 stack of bleed
hard nexus
listening to u inflects 1 stack of bleed
inflicts*
stone fern
oh no
misty nova
twbs good balance DoD
I could probably drop twbs for GW with those 3 extra points
stone fern
i am going to commit suicide now
hard nexus
I could probably drop twbs for GW with those 3 extra points
what
hard nexus
I could probably drop twbs for GW with those 3 extra points
twbs is on the way to GW
stone fern
I could probably drop twbs for GW with those 3 extra points
u need sustained assault
hard nexus
lmfao
stone fern
wait marty or ij?
frozen kernel
Me tknifing Frog’s BB targets in havoc 34 last night
hard nexus
Me tknifing Frog’s BB targets in havoc 34 last night
it’s so funny
misty nova
twbs is on the way to GW
Hold on
That's not under Good Balance?
hard nexus
krak grenades are a timer to beat
frozen kernel
I had a flamer and no other way to deal with gunners across the room
hard nexus
Hold on
That's not under Good Balance?
no, it’s dance of death into either TWBS or good balance
red swift
Great on bolter
frozen kernel
I’m hucking knives and I just see Frog walk up beside me as my target starts to glow
”CAN YOU NOT” lmao
stone fern
aaaaaaaaaaa
frozen kernel
I was like “oh you got this” and went back to lawnmowing
hard nexus
ambuscade raking fire anoint purge
stone fern
this is what i use for marty now
hearty nebula
stone fern
ambuscade raking fire anoint purge
bulwark BoN racism
frozen kernel
My favorite part of this meme is that they have to have history for him to have the QuickDraw bananas ready
I dunno why it capitalizes QuickDraw but ok
river jackal
Got a friend using crusher and flamer and he's unironically cooking, is it a decent combo?
misty nova
this is what i use for marty now
If I had another 3 points it would still not be able to get Vicious Offering huh
Damn
Not a lot of options
hearty nebula
i found footage of @copper hawk
frozen kernel
Got a friend using crusher and flamer and he's unironically cooking, is it a dec...
Both are pretty decent weapons. Not sure about synergy but they both handle horde CC really well and crusher can deal with heavier enemies so I’d say let him enjoy himself
misty nova
And it would be two extra points if MP was good huh
Yeah this current tree is borked
FS please rework
frozen kernel
i found footage of <@576701404475949056>
you at the Christmas party
pale spindle
i found footage of <@576701404475949056>
hearty nebula
you at the Christmas party
fucked up evil creature
yea thats me
(i didnt go to christmas this year :( )
)
fleet zealot
stoat
placid fiber
i found footage of <@576701404475949056>
The super mario world music fits cica, tbh, lol
fleet zealot
white girl that loves cheese
hearty nebula
hearty nebula
shart
silent hull
Are crushers a good melee? I don't see anyone using anything besides DS and relic blade
frozen kernel
DS is just stupidly strong and relic is new, but crusher is still a very decent weapon
twilit otter
It's zealot power maul but better
Can spam power activation lights and infinite chain spam a group of crushers and other elites
Damage is fine, it has an alternate pattern light heavy or heavy light for horde and single target
misty nova
Are crushers a good melee? I don't see anyone using anything besides DS and reli...
Yes
It becomes even better when you learn combos
twilit otter
Biggest mistake you could make going into it is thinking it's another thunder hammer but it's not
Also it's a great team weapon overall with its CC
twilit otter
Any based learned people of the shock maul in here
What do you want to know
fleet zealot
shock maul is mid weapon that does every alright
placid fiber
It’s that time of the day
And what do you mean by "it's that time of the day"? >.>
fleet zealot
only real thing it has is opening bulwark shields with special
otherwise it's just a combo beatstick
vocal olive
And what do you mean by "it's that time of the day"? >.>
He means it's that time of day
fleet zealot
Also it's a great team weapon overall with its CC
the cc doesn't matter
crusher is an amazing damage combo weapon
twilit otter
On crusher?
placid fiber
He means it's that time of day
Thank you for specifying, without that info I was at a loss
fleet zealot
and the ability to go slaught over hammerblow has made the weapon even smoother
since you are less likely to launch horde on their ass 2 yards away from you
grave cypress
What do you want to know
Been using it a bit earlier. I've only just learnt today that there is indeed about a 2-3 second electrical effect that ticks damage on all enemies hit. (I think)
What would the reasoning on not having the "electrocuted enemies take 25% more damage" blessing equipped, is it just not a big enough number worth its salt to take?
The effect is so subtle though
misty nova
I should probably get a taste of that Slaughterer Crusher
Maybe it's time to drop Trauma
fleet zealot
Been using it a bit earlier. I've only just learnt today that there is indeed ab...
electrocute enemies take more damage is the meta
atomic fjord
Guys
fleet zealot
you take that and skullcrusher
fleet zealot
the issue with lightning reflexes is that they stealth nerfed it so you can't proc it on a ton of enemies in the short time window
misty nova
High Voltage Skullcrusher gaming
twilit otter
Been using it a bit earlier. I've only just learnt today that there is indeed ab...
I dunno, I used it as a backup weapon on vet and it felt very bonky like a baby ogryn weapon so I leaned in on that and took skullcrusher and the stagger blessing
fleet zealot
basically, electrocution debuff is a multi stage debuff
at it's first stage, it does no damage
the enemy is simply primed
lean cairn
are you talking to me @plush estuary
fleet zealot
this is caused by psyker's electric magic and shock maul attacks that stagger enemies
lean cairn
oh yeah that idk why it does that
grave cypress
I was also testing out the uhhh. Staggered enemies have a 25% chance to stun, I wish the stun effect had some more obvious effects though
fleet zealot
shock maul special applies an electrocution stage 2, which does a slight damage overtime as well
this is mostly for applying the electrocute to bosses/enemies you can't immediately stagger with normal swings
grave cypress
So it does do DPS over time, I was unsure if it was my veterans bleed on hit just not showing blood
fleet zealot
I was also testing out the uhhh. Staggered enemies have a 25% chance to stun, I ...
still would be bad compared to more power
the best stun blessing was the perfect block blessing
twilit otter
I was also testing out the uhhh. Staggered enemies have a 25% chance to stun, I ...
I ran skullcrusher hammerblow, but skullcrusher high voltage or skullcrusher opportunist are popular
fleet zealot
BUT they stealth nerfed it
opportunist is trash, smaul needs raw str and damage and has good adms
fleet zealot
hammerblow can easily be replaced by punishment, grievous wounds or hammer of faith
lean cairn
oh yeah i got past gloriana first event on i-ii but got stuck next to the stairs by 2 BON and got vomited to death
nice
it gets a little claustrophobic lol
fleet zealot
this, this is the one that got stealth nerfed
cooldown implemented
25% strength and stunning multiple ragers in one timed block was AMAZING
grave cypress
I heard people just didnt use it because timing a block was hard?
(Timed block = perfect block?)
fleet zealot
I heard people just didnt use it because timing a block was hard?
that and it shortly got stealth nerfed
time block has like
almost a full second window
lean cairn
tbh bosses are mostly either not a problem, a minor problem or a boring slog with BON
fleet zealot
and you could cancel and reblock
to keep proccing it
it actually made smaul an amazing rager buster
drowsy steppe
Explicator Zonkla
lean cairn
like shooting it 4 times with boltpistol, running away, waiting for stacks to decay, reapplying, repeat
fleet zealot
since it could just run into packs of ragers and stun them
atomic fjord
Explicator Zonkla
😔
simple nexus
Can Iget some help with shocking stuff? I got 39 but I can't get 40
misty nova
since it could just run into packs of ragers and stun them
Only Dclaw is allowed to mess with Ragers
C'mon you know that
plush estuary
misty nova
no parry blessing
fleet zealot
yea only attacks that have a negative adm for a 80% penetration smaul
is sweeping vs carapace
lean cairn
@plush estuary on certain maps it doesnt load the post processing until you move further in i think
lean cairn
does that on power matrix too
fleet zealot
is that 100% penetration stat
lean cairn
yes that's it i think
fleet zealot
anyways, yea, oppurtunist is largely wasted on smaul
just like how it is on chain axe
smaul sweeps vs cara have, 0.54 effectiveness, which isn't even bad, but you should be combo'ing your strikedowns on carapace
misty nova
I'm still Madge over the chain Axe one
lean cairn
im 2002
twilit otter
These are the idiots you have to carry in aurics
drowsy steppe
I would like to believe hes just there for the vibes
stone fern
no enduring faith?
i have disdain instead
lean cairn
i have disdain instead
disdain is bad
stone fern
no u
stone fern
i use it on rashad its quick enough that it doesnt matter
stone fern
besides i usually dont take damage when im critting
lean cairn
it lasts 4 seconds
lean cairn
you can ult and take 50% damage for 4 seconds
misty nova
disdain just means you 1 shot them harder
Good
Make sure they don't come back as zombies
bitter anvil
Hi shork @stone fern
twilit otter
Just don't get hit bro
stone fern
hi
bitter anvil
I’ve been hibernating
stone fern
bro was in the fang
bitter anvil
What fang
stone fern
the HQ of the space wolves
bitter anvil
Oh
stone fern
where dreadnaughts go eep
stone fern
why yes game i will play yard for the 4th time today
hearty nebula
train yard my beloved
cerulean nest
dumb question, but does the power level of my items matter ?
like, im lv 17 right now and using a heavy eviscerator at 170 score,power or whatever its called. is there a noticeable difference if i upgrade ?
grizzled aspen
like, im lv 17 right now and using a heavy eviscerator at 170 score,power or wha...
Your item score is related to your stats.
bitter anvil
dumb question, but does the power level of my items matter ?
Stats only actually affect
grizzled aspen
Low score = low stats.
bitter anvil
Power item just overall of your combination stats
normal wren
But dont empower weapons until you get a good one
cerulean nest
and the higher stats are noticeable on a weapon ?
cerulean nest
or is it just minimal
bitter anvil
It depend roll you get
normal wren
170 weapon you wpuld probably feel the difference
sullen forge
train yard my beloved
It’s peak unless you’re the only one dealing with the ranged units
Rolling Steel though
cerulean nest
mhm okay
cerulean nest
thanks
frosty herald
Rolling Steel though
rolling steel havoc
frosty herald
They're pawesome..
youd love shadow of chernobyl with 0 mods or fixes
god i love that new mosnters are a bit smaller
lean cairn
cant run this game properly while streaming
yeah nvm lol
i heard lol
he sounded sad about it
insane
lean cairn
theres a new havoc bug every week
misty nova
yeah nvm lol
Something is different about your game
I just don't know why
Ooh your fov
Yeah
lean cairn
all my graphics are low for performance too
i increased fov by like 10 and i could never go back
spare talon
https://redd.it/1hva5xq
The top comment is a person who thinks the ai director is going CRRAAZZYY when it's been at its lowest intensity ever for months
misty nova
I definitely don't keep count on the director intensity
lean cairn
The top comment is a person who thinks the ai director is going CRRAAZZYY when i...
every time someone says this what happened is they just queued into a hishock game by accident and didnt realise
i WISH the ai director would go crazy
spare talon
i WISH the ai director would go crazy
The only ways the ai director goes crazy is when it spends its budget on vile combinations
The other day during duo 3vegs it just spawned only flamers
Nothing but flamers
Endless flamers
Always flamers
Everything was flamers
Everything was on fire
misty ravine
Get flamed into a corner, AI Director yells "I bet you wish you kept TWBS now!"
spare talon
Get flamed into a corner, AI Director yells _"I bet you wish you kept TWBS now!"...
I was playing MELEE PSYKER
lean cairn
Everything was on fire
i had a start of a true solo on baross just now that spawned 5 tox bombers in literally the first place enemies can spawn
i ran around a bit and found them standing there
misty nova
The only ways the ai director goes crazy is when it spends its budget on vile co...
3 green bosses
2 CS 1 Plague Ogryn
sullen forge
8 Tox bombers in play lmao
misty nova
On the small bridges of that one mission where they abandoned a tank
spare talon
3 green bosses
2 CS 1 Plague Ogryn
I'd rather than in every room than being pingponged by flamers at all times
drowsy steppe
The top comment is a person who thinks the ai director is going CRRAAZZYY when i...
go easy on the reg dam regulars 🤭
lean cairn
oh no i downloaded a skyrim mod that gives me a castle and its telling me i should get a mod to make the grass look nicer
this is how it starts
lean cairn
3 green bosses
2 CS 1 Plague Ogryn
i'd rather fight this than a single BON
spare talon
go easy on the reg dam regulars 🤭
They don't play damn lmao
sullen forge
this is how it starts
Next thing you know it’s asking you to download like 30+ mods for one thing
lean cairn
i will not be downloading the big jiggly booty ass mods
sullen forge
i will not be downloading the big jiggly booty ass mods
The 8k booby physics mod that’s absolutely necessary for this simple cabin mod you don’t understand it’s incredibly important
frosty herald
single skyrim mod needing a dependancy which needs another dependancy but oh this piece of texture doesnt look good eh ill do windows too
maybe slap on some animation mods which needs its own framework and exe
lean cairn
how can i enjoy being a vampire in a castle feeding on people if those people dont look like human sex dolls?
frosty herald
and thats how your modlist grows to 500 mods
stone fern
maybe slap on some animation mods which needs its own framework and exe
those are paid
stone fern
how can i enjoy being a vampire in a castle feeding on people if those people do...
so tru so tru
lean cairn
imagine paying for mods
sullen forge
how can i enjoy being a vampire in a castle feeding on people if those people do...
Shit drives me nuts
frosty herald
those are paid
your lucky your in maincord
sullen forge
So stupid
frosty herald
or i wouldve called you something horendous
lean cairn
i saw someone selling darktide shirtless mod after it was uploaded to nexus
frosty herald
paying for mods is sad behaviour
stone fern
there are a few paid combat animations for skyrim
drowsy steppe
tbf
stone fern
they are paid
drowsy steppe
modders want to be paid too
drowsy steppe
I dont find it sad
frosty herald
there are a plethera of animation mods that are free
misty ravine
I dont find it sad
It's sad if the company that develops the game is trying to sell them.
Otherwise the only sad part is people having to monetize their hobbies because employment just doesn't cut it anymore
sharp urchin
i will only pay for a mod that turns me into sly marbo
stone fern
but the devil may cry beyonetta 3 dance dance revolution mod i wanted is paid!!!!
sharp urchin
I had a baby
stone fern
ill only pay for a mod that lets me smoke malbo reds in skyrim
drowsy steppe
I saw you here from like a year ago
drowsy steppe
I had a baby
oh CONGRATS!
sullen forge
there are a plethera of animation mods that are free
^
sharp urchin
thanks, for those who dont know, babies are as expensive as Warhammer tabletop but you cannot leave them on your paint desk for 6 months and come back where you left off, so. make of that what you will.
lean cairn
back in my day modders used to make mods for the hell of it...
i had a guy contact me after i asked for a simple mod in the darktide mod discord and say he'd make it for $40
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/stalker-soc-bloodsucker-on-bicycle-gif-20911439
Original message was deleted
stone fern
thanks, for those who dont know, babies are as expensive as Warhammer tabletop b...
so how soon is the baby getting started on abbadon black sandwiches?
drowsy steppe
thanks, for those who dont know, babies are as expensive as Warhammer tabletop b...
the baby knocked over your minis and now the paintings ruined aint it
sharp urchin
baby is about 2 weeks away from average veteran skill level
she'll be farming aurics in no time
drowsy steppe
give it another year
stone fern
second generation in the darktide super soldier program
sullen forge
They don’t know about how incredibly brain dead overpowered Soyker is now
stone fern
but zealot has to do melee
stone fern
vet and psyker can be 90% ranged
sullen forge
Best melee weapon in the game
plush estuary
Psyker can be 100% range
stone fern
yeah like revolver wasnt infinite ammo for the longest time
sullen forge
???
stone fern
im talking pre survivalist nerf 🚬
sullen forge
Tweaking the fuck out over the truth
stone fern
😭
drowsy steppe
aaah love me bullet magnetism
stone fern
aaah love me bullet magnetism
bruh bolter bullet magnetism is like 10x of the revolver
hybrid helm
bruh bolter bullet magnetism is like 10x of the revolver
How the revolver (or bolter) feels with bullet magnetism
hard nexus
bruh bolter bullet magnetism is like 10x of the revolver
it’s just hitboxes
not magnetism
guh
sullen forge
it’s just hitboxes
Well you see Zealot and Veteran can use it better thus Psyker gets a pass
hard nexus
psyker is
stupid
and i hope it gets gutted
vet and psyker both need to be gutted
zealot needs a couple of nerfs
but mainly just a rework of the talent tree
sullen forge
No it needs buffs clearly so I can sleep during the entire match when I get matched up with a Psyker
Nerf rework tbh
lean cairn
modding skyrim special edition is so fucking painful
sullen forge
All of them need nerfs
hard nexus
true
lean cairn
why did they get rid of workshop support
sullen forge
Ogryn is just barely scrapping by
hard nexus
except melee ogryn, i think ogryn is in a decent place
just nerf karsolas a bit
and buff the other melees
sullen forge
Gut that fucking Pickaxe
frosty herald
Cyn kindly explode
frosty herald
modding skyrim special edition is so fucking painful
Get mo2
drowsy steppe
actually put more interesting movesets on ogryn melees
hard nexus
Cyn kindly explode
what
frosty herald
And also very important
drowsy steppe
and I might might start playing Ogryn more
frosty herald
Have reading skills
hearty nebula
simply revive them
sterile basalt
vet and psyker both need to be gutted
sullen forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShak...
You’re mad cause she’s right
drowsy steppe
simply revive them
ggs noobs said the unfaithful
sullen forge
Zealot needs a rework to the tree and nerfing of said talents
drowsy steppe
frosty herald
the guide is so fucking long
dont forget compatibility mods alongside fixing errors lol
sullen forge
Ogryn I won’t lie
hearty nebula
ggs noobs said the unfaithful
oh ye of little faith
sullen forge
Toughness gained should be nerfed
frosty herald
expect to take like a week to properly set up a modlist
sullen forge
And then it’s fine
hard nexus
Toughness gained should be nerfed
only if there’s some kind of buff to allow dodging through chaff
drowsy steppe
I did a gloriana clutch the other day and it resulted a win for the match
sterile basalt
Veteran is more in the “adjustment” phase because some talents are just awful and need major buffs/reworks
But veteran also has overtuned stuff that need to be nerfed
lean cairn
dont forget compatibility mods alongside fixing errors lol
i just wanted a castle...
hard nexus
an ogryn shouldn’t get blocked by a single poxwalker that’s a 6th of the weight of the ogryn
sullen forge
You will never have your castle @lean cairn
hearty nebula
an ogryn shouldn’t get blocked by a single poxwalker that’s a 6th of the weight ...
true...
sullen forge
You WILL download 500 mods
hard nexus
Veteran is more in the “adjustment” phase because some talents are just awful an...
what would need buffs
drowsy steppe
i just wanted a castle...
what requirements doth it needs
sullen forge
an ogryn shouldn’t get blocked by a single poxwalker that’s a 6th of the weight ...
Keep it though it’s funny
lean cairn
what requirements doth it needs
none but i only just downloaded special edition for the first time and idk what im doing
sullen forge
Can’t manage a horde? Eat shit and die
lean cairn
an ogryn shouldn’t get blocked by a single poxwalker that’s a 6th of the weight ...
love getting body blocked by an emaciated crackhead lying face down on the ground
drowsy steppe
maybe pay Todd more for anniv edition if you dont want to go through the hassle of modding the thing 🤭
lean cairn
maybe pay Todd more for anniv edition if you dont want to go through the hassle ...
idek what anniversary edition does
this game is so complicated
drowsy steppe
basically most of the creation clubs...creation plus other exclusive creations packaged as a DLC
stone fern
skyrim died when they updated it the last time
sullen forge
That sounds so stupid
drowsy steppe
I got my moneys worth from it tbf
stone fern
which killed a ton of mods
lean cairn
aka paying for mods no thanks
frosty herald
idek what anniversary edition does
anniversary edition aka fucking up your entire modlist
stone fern
bethesda in general is dead to me tbh
wanton fossil
How's it going zealot chat?
sterile basalt
what would need buffs
Longshot
Covering fire
Killzone
Opening salvo
Determined (should be baked in)
Superiority complex and fully loaded should swap places
Marksman focus still meh
Competitive urge
Exploit weakness
Skirmisher
Weapon specialist does too much on its own and most subnodes are ass
Smoke can use more buffs
Inspiring presence need to go
The 5% reload speed talent is also ass and is just a forced point tax
The 15 toughness at top is also a forced tax for no reason
Etc
frosty herald
like really really fucking it up
stone fern
How's it going zealot chat?
we hate bethesda
frozen kernel
And what do you mean by "it's that time of the day"? >.>
Shart thirstposting
wanton fossil
we hate bethesda
lol understandable
drowsy steppe
How's it going zealot chat?
we hate bethesda
frozen kernel
Hark ye and praise
wanton fossil
zealot chat is safe...for now
lean cairn
remove zealot's book and replace it with whatever banisher was meant to be tbh
it sounds cooler
drowsy steppe
we only got like voicelines as a clue for what that cut ult would be
lean cairn
they're fire related and it has impact lines too
sullen forge
Longshot
Covering fire
Killzone
Opening salvo
Determined (should be baked in)
Su...
Keep their heads down
Marksman Focus should be reworked into getting tokens from melee and ranged Weakspot
Serrated should be reworked
There’s a few others Veteran is weird cause it has very extreme high talents and very low talents @hard nexus
drowsy steppe
perhaps but if its some bs like shouting and fire sprouts relative to the zealot
immo does that essentially
lean cairn
i think its probably different
some fire related melee attack
since the lines for starting the ability are quite long so the impact ones would need time to play
sterile basalt
Keep their heads down
Marksman Focus should be reworked into getting tokens fro...
You will never convince a zealot main that veteran actually is not knee deep in the “need to get gutted” territory
sullen forge
I mean I managed to convince Vic Zealot and Vet are just two sides of a coin.
They pull the same sheer BS just through different means
Zealot gets insane situational proc buffs
Vs Vet with its Static buffs
The thing I can firmly handshake on is Psyker needs nerfs to their staves
sterile basalt
Just scaling vs density
sullen forge
Gunker is actually massive risk reward gameplay and I’m fine with that but staff is just
Holy shit
sterile basalt
Cap number of targets that can be damaged by a single damage instance by voidblast & inferno
Doesn’t need to be a harsh drop from “infinite” down to like 4 or anything
Cap it to like 10~12 or smth
grizzled aspen
Cleave? No. Damage cap? Yes.
sterile basalt
Cleave damage distribution cap also needs to be changed
Should not be on chainaxe / Evicerator / bully club
Should be on knife & duelling sword
Cap them to only be able up to 2 enemies per attack
grizzled aspen
This is the first I'm learning that chaxe and club have damage caps.
sterile basalt
Bully club is the worst melee in the game because of that lol
sullen forge
Minus BClubs that’s new
But still that’s one of the big killers for the chains
Their caps which literally just leads you to staggering instead of actually hitting them for damage
sterile basalt
I also think stagger system in havoc is worth revisiting
Instead of increasing enemies’ stagger reduction
sullen forge
It’s why Chord and Chaxe or luke warm melees on everyone minus Zealot
sterile basalt
It should be same stagger breakpoints as base game, but with increased stagger immunity window
sullen forge
Zealot can turn bad melees into pretty decent melees
Though vice versa can be said with Vet and bad guns
sterile basalt
This would make the current CC spam meta less effective
grizzled aspen
Though vice versa can be said with Vet and bad guns
Agri Vigilant.
sullen forge
~~Agri Vigilant.~~
Again it feeds into my point I clarified to Victuals
Two sides of a coin
Veteran and Zealot
candid thorn
guh what is this stat dump
sullen forge
guh what is this stat dump
Mobility
sullen forge
I also think veteran’s melee options are quite limited
I mean yes and no
candid thorn
Btw, what's better between the three?
sullen forge
You kinda have to lock yourself into something dependent on your weapon
grizzled aspen
Again it feeds into my point I clarified to Victuals
I was just mocking your favorite weapon...
sullen forge
Like if I want to use knife I need something that’s decent at CC for gun
fleet zealot
Btw, what's better between the three?
use 1 until you get one with 60% mobility potential
sullen forge
Or shredders
sterile basalt
Btw, what's better between the three?
None are good, go for a mobility dump
All 4 other stats matter
candid thorn
ty
sullen forge
I was just mocking your favorite weapon...
Yeah I know but it literally only feeds my argument that Zealot and Veteran are not so different…
I still desperately think they’re due for a tree rework though
It’s incredibly dated
sterile basalt
Yeah I know but it literally only feeds my argument that Zealot and Veteran are ...
You’re prob not gonna convince meow lol
candid thorn
None are good, go for a mobility dump
All 4 other stats matter
Something like this? This is mobility dump right?
sullen forge
Oh absolutely not
sterile basalt
Something like this? This is mobility dump right?
Mobility dump as in
“Mobility goes up to 60%”
sullen forge
You can’t convince anyone who thinks the entire class should be gutted under Ogryn levels of usefulness lmao
candid thorn
Ah got it, damn this thing with stat distribution is such gambling lol
Oh there is actually a guide for relic blades in the pinned, didn't see it
copper hawk
Pandora’s box being opened
Who is
misty nova
Pandora? Well that one lady
copper hawk
Wut duh
modern lintel
evil name
wet rain
ebon bobcat
theres no beef
Buy beef
visual stream
Make reworked Zealot Tree start with Second Wind being a mandatory node as the only option before the tree starts
cerulean moth
it is is very warm in here
modern lintel
its 5pm you degenerate
remote lark
i work nights
wanton fossil
it is is very warm in here
Looks cosy
wanton fossil
Candle gang fr
sullen forge
@remote lark you work tonight? Cause I know frog is trying to get us to get another havoc out of the way
Seeing I get off work when he does
sullen forge
Oh neat
We could probably do a few seeing I’m blessed with a late into a late
Aka have a bit more free time tonight
remote lark
fire
sullen forge
Is Banx joining us again
remote lark
@frozen kernel
sullen forge
Or do we need to find a fourth
median steeple
gunk
wanton fossil
What a fool, hair don't go well with fire
Big E keeps our hair safe
remote lark
dude
median steeple
remote lark
our fourth last night
was a hilarious psyker lady
who had like
the most depressed suicidal voice i've EVER HEARD
median steeple
irl psyker
remote lark
the things they said in vc were absolutely wild
its like they were max peril irl all game
sullen forge
Full me in on it later
remote lark
i cant say any of it here or i'll get banned 
grizzled aspen
i have today off
You will probably have to carry.
I've been awake since 9pm yesterday.
It's 5pm now.
stone fern
the things they said in vc were absolutely wild
we know yapmaster
you wont stop YAPPING
grizzled aspen
Also can confirm, that person was completely unhinged and should likely seek therapy.
copper hawk
I already am
grizzled aspen
Not like the "haha funny" type either.
copper hawk
I am inoculated
median steeple
new personality, damn I missed the last one
copper hawk
Every1 insufferable 2 u tho
grizzled aspen
"Erm you should be shooting the gunners!" Mf two of us are using flamethrowers and the one that isn't has no fucking bullets.
copper hawk
Idk what dat meanz
median narwhal
what mark of the chainaxe is best?
grizzled aspen
Every1 insufferable 2 u tho
No, there are plenty of people that are sufferable to me.
lean cairn
you will pay for your deeds arch heretics
grizzled aspen
what mark of the chainaxe is best?
Trick question, they serve different purposes.
grizzled aspen
Mk4 is general purpose, mk12 is anti armor.
frozen kernel
At work 
median steeple
I htough
median narwhal
I see
frozen kernel
its like they were max peril irl all game
Why is this so accurate wait lmao
violet hornet
Why is this so accurate wait lmao
yeah this immediately painted a picture for sure
grizzled aspen
At work <a:cri:835029513585950750>
How long until not at work?
frozen kernel
How long until not at work?
Enough time for you to get a proper sleep in
frozen kernel
If you hit yourself with a brick rn and get all 8 hours
remote lark
frog i want to clear like 3 havocs
g slepe
go sleep
noww
ur enough of a loser as it is when ur not sleep deprived
frozen kernel
yeah this immediately painted a picture for sure
They’d also flip on a dime and be like “Great cover, thank you boo” so I was just like 
…?
I love Psykers
grizzled aspen
ur enough of a loser as it is when ur not sleep deprived
That's kinda mean.
frozen kernel
Give me 100 trash wizards over 100 Cadian roleplayers
grizzled aspen
i'll be nice if u go sleep
Promise?
remote lark
They’d also flip on a dime and be like “Great cover, thank you boo” so I was jus...
stockholm syndrome generator
they kept calling us baby
like "no baby no, don't do that"
frozen kernel
It worked
remote lark
grizzled aspen
like "no baby no, don't do that"
I was genuinely ready to slap a bitch for that.
Super fucking annoying.
frozen kernel
Im semi tiltproof to begin with
remote lark
i loved them
remote lark
its like we speedran an abusive relationship
"you deserve to be hung"
"good job, well done baby really well done"
frozen kernel
remote lark
"immolate yourself"
"amazing, amazing"
"i'm going to skin you and rub lemons on you"
grizzled aspen
The fucking trump impression was gold.
opal star
jokes on you I like lemons
grizzled aspen
It actually made me cry of laughter.
merry flume
median steeple
"immolate yourself"
grizzled aspen
i loved them
You just love being in an abusive relationship.
frozen kernel
Peak DDDA was self immolation
misty ravine
Give me 100 trash wizards over 100 Cadian roleplayers
Instructions unclear. Delivered 100 trash roleplayers.
grizzled aspen
Instructions unclear. Delivered 100 trash roleplayers.
frozen kernel
You just love being in an abusive relationship.
I can recognize when good tasting things are unhealthy, but alas my brain and body are two different operators of the meat gundam
grizzled aspen
I can recognize when good tasting things are unhealthy, but alas my brain and bo...
"The meat gundam" what the fuck.
sullen forge
Wildest thing is what I learned of in DMs
median steeple
I can recognize when good tasting things are unhealthy, but alas my brain and bo...
please don't refer to yourself as a meat gundam
grizzled aspen
I’m not sharing it
Coward, share with me.
frozen kernel
Jk love you genuinely ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
grizzled aspen
do more damage u useless scab
Don't engage with him, he will lick you.