#zealot-class
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I’m the alien from Men in Black
( I hate clothe)
If I'm not wearing at least 2 layers I'm not able to focus.
Jacket, Vest, Hoodie, Scarf, Shirt, Thermal Top, Trousers, Thermal Bottoms, WOOL SOCKS
I be out here wearing 2 pairs of pants, a long and short sleeve shirt, and maybe a jacket.
That’s my ensemble minus the beanie
Yucker..
Make me remenber of how there's some mangaka needing outfit to draw
What a noobe..
Or people whom wear sock in da nude
I’ve done the sideways tango with just socks
Man proc his gamer instinct by wearing 2 piece of clothing
Not out of desire, they just never made their way off
Neither of us noticed until lack of traction
More like I keep my house at 60 degrees F at all times so if I'm too cold I can't focus on the perfect movements darktide requires.
God with winter it force me to wear clothe
And no, turning the heat up is not an option.
My PC is a machine that converts money into warm air
And I don't wanna use the radiator
I don’t run heat in my room
Bad experience with radiator
My $2000 room heater:
Tbh j use my laptop to heat me up
Leave the kitchen and bathroom heat so that the pipes don’t freeze but
Put on some game
I have blankets and a PC
Put it under the blanky
I don’t need heat, I need cool
Banx is poormaxxing.
Yall freakz
Mf does not run heat in his house unless he absolutely needs it.
I just open my window when I play Darktide or Helldivers for like 3-4 hours
Respectable.
Because it gets too hot for my ceiling fan on medium to deal with
Do you know how expensive the radiator is?
First year in europe
I can't run my ceiling fan in my apartment.
And it ran the bills
Is it literally cents for the radiators
Never again
It just goes CLANG CLANG CLANG and I'm not allowed to re-seat it, according to the landlord.
Or is it randomly expensive af
My expense went to 150 euro
Look man I need my hot bath
I need it once a day man
Also I like to do my dish hot
If my body ain't fuming
It's not warm enough
Yeah I used to love watching the steam come off my skin as a kid
Going to thunder hammer his liver.
I stg if he got home and ate an edible I'm going to flay him.
Something something war thunder
Fuck war thunder
4 year off my life or so
Cica will appear and conscript me again before Lumi shows up
5 years red army service
And I get to be the guy who gets the single stripper clip
God the yak is my least fav aircraft
But God does it look fun
But jesus the lack of ammo
I never flew Russian aircraft because Hayabusa never gonna lose ya
Took me forever to actually learn how to hit shit
The dog has awoken, it seems.
4 years and never touch jet tech tree yet
With my guns, not the Japanese way
I used to do a practice round with bots without tracer to get my aim right
My Project Wingman gameplay has impressed and dismayed my ancestors
Before I play anything
I can't stand playing anything involving planes.
The amount of missile warning fucking shook me
The inverse up and down mechanics fry my brain.
I mean that game does sound like "grind 5 years or pay a nontrivial amount of real money to advance tech tree to the jet age for one (1) country"
I just hate that the lead aiming reticle is a fucking liar
Change keybind
If I ever play war thunder I may steal my brother's fancy flight setup.
You have to aim like a full centimeter around it depending on the enemy’s movement
But it never tells you this
He's got one of those little rig things with a proper joystick and whatnot that works for the game.
Me about to hit you with my dollar tier hammer head maneuver
And because most people don’t load up bot games it’s not like we have a good practice tool to test things 
(Your energy management stink)
Me about to crash directly into you because fuck you.
I got a little over halfway through the campaign before I realized how to use flares
I just dodged every single missile
What after stalling?
Gl
And it was pain
Wait till you do mission on mercenary difficulty
Nope, full speed directly into you.
The fucking missile curve
Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator: WWII Europe Series is the first version of all three combat flight simulation games from Microsoft. It was released on 28 October 1998 and it is set in the European Theatre of World War II. This game spawned two sequels: Combat Flight Simulator 2 in 2000 and Combat Flight Simulator 3: Battle for Europe in 2002.
Yeah gl climbing altitude vertically
This was my first flying game
My dad had a joystick and would turn on unlimited fuel and rockets
Based father
I’d mash Numpad 0 and just annihilate the luftwaffe with gundam tier missile barrages
First time he loaded up regular MS Flight Sim
He put me in a chopper
He watches as I turn it on
Pull the stick all the way back
Do a backflip
Did you crash immediately?
Based
“Oh hey pal it’s a helicopter, remember battlefield Vietnam?”
“Oh like the Huey”
Nyoom
Battlefield 4 taught me to fly a helicopter in games.
O god the furry is here
You better learn to weave between buildings and 360 like a mf if you wanna survive in bf4.
Flares are for bitches real mercs use the AOA limiter and prayer

Okay :3
Source nazis kept me from turning into that
I had my edgy teenage "haha swastika funni" phase when I was like 13-14 and quickly grew out of it
Banx, strike team 50.
Comin
Be aware that Lumii is actually fucked up as all hell rn.
I am less swastika more superb engineering
Then I had to see how the tiger get repair
And yeah jesus
They over design so much and forgot about the repair part
God I wanna go into a scissoring maneuver against someone
Or do some high yo yo
Never touch air rb in warthunder mostly custom match with realistic on
Duel aircraft
Put wep on
Lead your shot when they are in a turn
Have a tea party with the other aircraft
Fun time
is toughness dmg reduction multiplicative or additive. So if i have for example stalwart and enduring fate. do i get 75% or 62.5%
from multiple sources i mean
multiplicative
theres a few minor exceptions like the minor 5% nodes that are additive but any of the big sources you care about are multiplicitive
but additive for damage reduction in generall like good balance right?
is there a formula somewhere?
ah i found it
i wanted to double check
they are additive with each other (and i shall not fall, for some reason)
but their final sum is multiplicitive with the other DR sources
hamdol coming into chat the exact moment i reference the kuli steam guide
im about to be obliterated
man its so wonky, like you can think you got some good build and like half of the shit does nothing because of the unexplained calculations
I don't think there's any additive tdr left in the game except small nodes / I shall not fall, everything else stacks multiplicatively on each other
DR is still good
Confirmz..
Just not total immunity good
ah no dw you are right, small nodes are additive
Stacks additively with other small toughness damage reduction nodes; their sum stacks multiplicatively with other damage reduction buffs.
Small nodes are only additive with themselves
yeah, that's exactly true
Damn my math for zealot is off shit
so if you want to calculate toughness damage reduction, calculate additives together, and use them as a multiplier
for example,
so with 3 small tdr nodes, enduring and good balance
itd be 1(.75)(.85)(.5)
Everyone’s needs to get that information mod if they’re pc tbh
if you are calculating on ogryn, make sure to include hidden passive
of 20% flat dr to toughness and hp
I remember my friend group calculating the absolute maximum tdr you can get in a perfect moment (when the stars align) in darktide, but I can't find it. It was fun calculating it tho
might make a fun quiz question, notes taken
is the dr during slides and dodges still in the game
and sprinting i think was in that too
yes but it's a bit more of a complex formula
it's not exactly tdr
state_damage_modifiers.dodging it's this modifier
here's a better explanation I had in my info bank
the values have changed a bit but it sohuld still be relevant
i remember that
i did this!
but i couldnt find through the walls of text regarding the subject

ey, good work!
to look at exactly how much dr i get from a realistic build
which is the piety stalwart build against non-gunners and gunners with 3x gunner dr
Zealot taking less damage during sprint makes me understand the design philosophy behind talents like Twbs and swift certainty
Debating steam is exhausting
I just provided evidence of zealot 2htk on crushers with relic blade
Yet the luumi clip somehow proves crusher is...better?

yes
it's roughly correct, the actual damage might wary a bit since slide sprint modifier is not exactly dr as I said, but it should be very close
I sadly can't get on pc to put more evidence in so the stupid steam smoothbrains learn something
Or just forget, flee and come back in 3 days with another shit take

Hey is your profile description supposed to be Mordhau related
i've lost a lot of passion for darktide lately, mostly because of solo play mod crashing %99 of the time when I try soloing havoc 40
And the godawful mechanic of deranking is stopping me from doing random duo stuff
Still more forgiving than WoW mythic dungeon lol
probably, but I don't play WoW lmao
The way they setup havoc party finder is basically 1:1 how WoW works but just not as good
is the relic blade "better" than the heavy eviscerator ?
no
And is most of your playtime solo havoc?
yes
yes it is
That shit sounds exhausting
very much better
cool
Relic blade is better than crusher dps wise too
please don't listen to noobJ
lately it is, but the crashes are very demoralizing
I had a relic blade solo run
I see
In almost every respect aside from single target against bosses
ur wrong bark
What was the relic blade build I’m curious
I haven’t been able to put it down since it came out lol
@obsidian ore disdain or atk speed on relic blade do u think
It was a crit relic blade setup with dr maxxing
in havoc
I'd always go atk spd honeslty
atk spd outdps's anything disdain can do imo
also refreshes buffs way faster
since you hit more
also
is SOC individual cooldowns/buffs still
thats what i was told ages ago and then everyone said something different recently
what you mean
Does SoC have a shared cooldown or per player
indignatus is already broken.
+Impact/+Impact already resets crusher and below KD resistance in two hits, any two hits, and +damage +damage will three shot anything in the game that isn't a monstrosity.
One build you literally take NO damage on auric because nothing can touch you without being launched into the air, the other build does relic blade damage in activation mode... except you don't need to activate anything, it's a literal bonus.
The only advantage Zealot Zwei has is hitting multiple targets.
ah
i was told when you take SOC each player on your team gets it and its a local cooldown not a global one
yeah here's how it works
kuli explains it better than I do here
it has one global cooldown
do you wanna see the saddest way a solo havoc 40 has been lost
Damn that reminds me I told someone that everyone shares their own cooldown with it a while ago and he was really excited
I wonder how he’s doing now
lmao rip mate, dog into poxburster without until death is rough
qwq
but I hold the worst loss ever medal
an instant pounce dog
im glad i just shove dogs on sight if they are like a foot from me
I lost an IIVEG (before havoc) run on solo psyker on archivum sycorax because after I grabbed the scroll and was in the process of jumping down on the bridge to leave, there was a sniper down there who shot me midair without any counterplay
Instant pounce hounds speedrunning through tox gas is irriatating
oh also
Nah man those sniper midair shots are bs. Even if you dodge off the cliff with the same timing as normal it’ll hit you.
one of the absolute worst enemies in the game rn is the fucking sword captain
Broken anims xdd
ever died to psychic sword slashes you can't see coming since animations are broken?
incredibly fun
The worst is bulwarks tbh
They need to not reset their shields instantly
That shits broken I can’t tell if it was intended or not
I really love how the chaos warrior shields were designed in v2
kinda sad bulwarks didn't receive the same love
at least it's better than those forcefield bulwark days
that was the shit
Back then they were easy to stagger though
My method was to just charge them when they swung and it was guaranteed stagger
And they had less health so easy kill
that's fair
Clutching a run just to turn a corner to 4-5 bulwarks fills me with dread
honestly why I always run anti bulwark weaponry lately
can't leave home without the flamethrower lmao
I can see fatshark nerfing flame weapons at the same time they fix up havoc bugs
man please no, do you remember how terrible it was when shields actually stopped infinite cleave attacks
I'm pretty sure they will tone down the damage a bit tho
I think infinite cleave is the main offender here lol
i wouldn't nerf the max damage on flamer honestly at 15 stacks, but if I had to nerf flamer I'd nerf the damage curve
The problem with this approach is it makes the poor fire shotty much worse
Oh well. Damned is damned
Man... I might consider my gunlugger build to be a meme, but, doing 100k boss damage in a run is a hell of a drug
they changed the shotgun names and I can't remember the correct one, I'm tryna say the spreadshot one
Gunlugger is pretty valid for solos btw
if you want to do some IIVEGS
as long as you don't shoot hordes on sight, I don't think gunlugger is meme at all
zarona
The thing is... playing as a ranged specialty on Ogryn of all characters will never not be a meme in my eyes, for me as a player.
Fair enough, going full gunlugger is actually a meme
but mix it up with heavy hitter, and it's an excellent all rounder boss deleter gungryn
esp with pickaxes
My gunlugger build is hella solid, but, I don't take it past heresy because it will only be thought of as a meme build to me... and I am not a fan of bringing meme builds to damnation
Not with 3 randos on my team, anyway
It is entertaining watching the randos do a double, triple, and quadruple take as I melt a daemonhost with it tho
How is glugger a meme
It isn't

It is a meme to me as a player because I don't play ogryn as a ranged class... or rather... I just don't like playing ogryn as a ranged class
It's like if I were playing a gun zealot, to me anyway
Where can I find the ogyrn meta builds
Ogrynomicon, pin in ogryn chat
That’s actually a good guide?
Yes
Alright
For the game as was intended
Don't get me wrong... my gunlugger build is damnation viable... I just... don't like having a ranged type of build for ogryn on damnation with 3 randos
I'd change a few things for solos and duos
I recall a couple people giving it a lot of flak
I do
Don’t remember the reasons though

Tanner and co
Ah
Misinformed about Ogryn and toughness regen
And that's fair, it's an extremely strong build option.
Is there a more simpler title for the builds
What's funny is unless I miss a lot against a daemonhost on heresy... just dodging backwards while shooting is enough to keep it from damaging me before it dies

without a combat stim lol
I’m trying to look for stuff like “melee tank” or “generalist” not shit like tyrant and bullgorger
Can facetank plogryns and chaos spawn too the same way
Why is the guide roleplaying too
It doesn't contain Ogryn speech, sadly
The names are mostly based off talents or tabletop, there's no tanking in tide games, for a generalist you could go any of the bull rush ones, or hybrids
here I made this in like 5 minutes
give it a shot see how it feels for you
Well not exactly tanking like eating a crap ton of hits
More like iron breaker where you hold aggro and spam cc
You should feel strong in melee still without bleed since pickaxe's damage is already very high
If I was able to get batter with that I would consider taking heavy hitter with the gunlugger build
You don't need to
as pickaxe damage is already high enough to frontline efficiently
ofc batter makes it stronger
This is what I've been taking to heresy
but not extremely important for pick dmhg
That's every Ogryn build outside of pure Glugger or pure damage 
Fnp termination is what you seek
brother its a speedrun
im making fun of speedrunners passing off speedruns as true solos by doing a speedrun and calling it not playing the game
yeah you invested way too much in glugger
Ah that’s crazy lmao
The education system at work
that's why yoıu feel weak
and theyre still saying its impressive
brother it was 13 minutes
try my build for one game
I’ll go make a ogyrn tomorrow then
but I don't feel weak...
They fell for the bait and then pretended to be a supporter to cover it up
You say you don't want to use it in damnation, as it feels like trolling no?
Impressive politician
Regardless
I say I do not wnt to use it on damnation due to the gunlugger build specifically being a meme build in my eyes FOR ME AS A PLAYER... <.<
try the setup I just sent here, you'll never go back to full glugger again

too much investment in right side without any important returns
FNP glugger is the way
It's not that my build feels weak, it's that the build is not something I take seriously no matter how I build the bottom tree...
Never
What’s the ogyrn pub carry build for standard damnation
Besides I'm sick of running fnp for Havok
Yeah I am not here to argue, it's just gonna feel better
If you make the switch
it's up to you if you wanna do it or not
If I wanted to use it on damnation then sure. I am just going to take my heavy hitter build, tho, if I am going to play damnation lol
I can quickly make together a build if you wanna bulldose your way through auric / havoc
shield or pickaxe?
I know all 4 classes can handle all content perfectly fine but iirc ogyrn has the hardest time clutching up
What’s the comparison
I’m assuming shield for aoe cc and pickaxe for single target?
shield for team sustain, important on high havocs
That ain't gonna change much with a good build
pickaxe for bonkers damage
Does ogyrn also have to make a different loadout to deal with havoc modifiers
Ah ok what’s the main issue
No
Big body?
no, ogryn works fine regardless
Dodge cool down
ogryn has two different setups for havoc (maybe 3)
Ah I’m cooked then
frontline dps, frontline sustain and boss deleter
What’s the time compared to a zealot
While the ogryn channel said this build looks more ilke a meme... This is how I like to play ogryn: Melee. A gun specialty just isn't my cup of tea for damnation+ on oggy
Can I get one for both then
Sure, keep in mind I mostly play havoc 40
Surprised the ogyrn channel actually commented on your build instead of trying to find a new way to misspell ration

Like... what do you think about it? Just curious. @obsidian ore
I don't like it
As long as it works in normal damnation I’ll be happy
What’s the purpose of the 3 grenades
Rock for st, box for aoe, fire for bigger better aoe?
For maelstroms or aurics this is something I would consider instead
that looks like the run of the mill dash hh build all frontline dps ogryns use, you made some personal changes, which is fine
that is not a meme honestly
I will share my ogryn setups here though
The extra dash nodes are more something I consider for higher than damnation difficulty. I just don't play auric or maelstroms with full rando teams nowadays since I just play for fun
I can make them work better for damnation by removing things like fnp for hh for more dps
I was going to share my havoc 40 setups
More dps sounds good
I don’t think I’m gonna do havocs with ogyrn lmao
Leaving that to psyker and zealot
Just gonna get a ogyrn to 30 and then some for fun
Bought the game might as well play all the classes
Don't forget to ask Ogryns, most are helpful
And some of us also hang around zealot chat to piss them off
like me
@obsidian ore This is what I use with the heavy hitter build
409hp and 217 toughness are what I end up with :3
this is the shield one for aurics
Idk about most ngl from my experience 80% of you would rather roleplay than answer my questions
I for the love of me can't remember the gorgonum stubber breakpoints
for regular auric
Either roleplay or straight up ignore
Never seen that happen, I'm sorry it did
On havoc 40, those modifiers I put on stubber are required for one shots
I got some crazy beef with ogyrn chat and none of them even know
Likely NA ogryns
I can’t even remember them individually I just got beef with the whole ass channel
I mainly like the achlys for 1 shot trapper bodyshots >.>
well...
that's the main thing anyway
I can't remember if it requires a crit tho
Trapper racism is my favorite goal in darktide >.>
Yep from what I can see the issue is you tried to deal with NA ogryns
idk what it is with NA but they tend to be rude
What would I change for damnation/pickaxe
pfft... just do what I do and somehow beat the final boss with a character that has 1 max hp on a 2nd profile >.>
Can I also run different weapons on that loadout for the mastery
you can do whatever you want
these are just the optimal skill trees for frontline ogryn
things do change for havoc 40
Sounds good thanks
idk how tf I did that... and I even didn't use my free block
but you said you'd stick around in damnation
Yea
Maybe one day I’ll consider running a taunt ogyrn for havoc
But that’s all I can think of
And one last question
Opening salvo is just insane on that stubber
Should I make my ogryns name a definition of something or just the first garbled word my head comes up with
why are you running deadly accurate
cuz I can
Brotato
you'll just get way more value out of running opening salvo

Doesn’t roll off the tongue the right way imo
But then again my two characters are knuk and biantai
Brotato is a really good game lmao
I only know bro force
brotato is fun ye
My ogryn was named princess for a long time
What if I just named it bro
there's something majestic about a princess that's just a 3 meter tall muscular war tank
Yeah he's trained tho he don't bite
princess throws a literal nuke
Welp... it's now time to find out if the +100% damage dealt from the serrated handles bargain, in rogue leagcy 2, is additive or multiplicitive... >.>
It would appear... the bonus damage is additive...
Fuck, that means taking it sucks lol
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Gotta love bulwarks.
It still at least makes me do ~50% more damage, at least, in this current run...
perfectly balanced
There's a lore room dummy that I wail on to see my damage #'s(and to get mana back at any time) <.<
It only took me until NG+8 to actually test out to see if I really was doing double damage with that relic... <.<'
Massively outplayed
If you can animation cancel, it's only fair they can too
Holy shit watching it again he was going sicko mode
He might not have won the battle but he will go down in history
Not pictured is the triple mutie stack
With the dog parry in the middle of killing the second one
Thats why I just gave up and let yall deal with the fucker from behind.
Nice to see we have pvp
That Ogryn main really was something
Best way to beat bulwarks is to not play their game, acquire an Ogryn
and have them play their game instead
Our Ogryn>Their Ogryn
basic ogrynomics really
Notice he did not hit me though.
:)
Ye Ogryn needs a buff
Make Bulwarks have an overhead shield slam that tracks and has aoe
Similar to our own shield h1

I think some weapons need a 2nd special attack.
Actually nvm fatshark would probably explode if they tried that.
Yes
It's funny once you realize that you can help open bulwarks from a distance
Rock
Or push them in melee
Or ignore their shield with your shield
Or charge
Or run past them

Having tried blocking a potato cannon with a piece of sheet metal, yeah, this checks out.
Evi special just fucking saws the shield in half
Except you have to draw it like MGS Rising
A lore accurate one would.
Power maul and crusher would both crumple it, power sword and relic blade would cut through it, and psykers can just move the shield with their mind.
A chainsword would take a while, an eviscerator would have it cut in half in seconds.
Lore accurate sanctic powers would have that ogryn on his knees begging and weeping for death.
It also kinda bothers me that we don't have anything involving sanctic powers for psyker.
Savant was professionally trained, they should have something.
One could argue Seer and Loner pulling a "monkey see, monkey do" for sanctic powers, too.
Replace assail with a buff to allies that gives them more toughness on kill
That you have to manually send to them
Done

What if left click smite buffed allies
and right click simply knocked enemies down in exchange of 40% peril
so it's easier to weave in your staff bs?
Lots of zerkers? Brief m2 to knock down, m1 to allies, 60% ish charge and start staffing or meleeing
The two schools of thought we have represented are pyromancy and divination. That leaves sanctic powers, biomancy, and telepathy.
Isn't smite called "bio-lighting"?
Technically?

But nobody really sees it as biomancy.
"Proper" biomancy is doing things like giving yourself super strength and whatnot.
Strengthening the body, sharpening the physical senses, that kind of thing.
Biomancy also involves healing wounds but for obvious reasons we aren't touching that aspect.
Divination is represented by disrupt destiny, pyromancy is represented by soulblaze talents like pc.
I suppose one could argue EP as sanctic?
And shriek as telepathic?
The Biomancer
The Protectorate
The Exile
Biomancer diviner telekinetic
Shriek is technically telepathy
atleast if we go by dark crusade tabletop but like
lmao
Brain burst too
Yeah fun fact
Darktide is based on dark crusade
if we went for everything by dark crusade rules, we'd die instantly
Shriek is basically assail from Necromunda and that's telekinetic
I mean I'm taking a peep at the rt board for psyker as a class.
and have to boot up new characters every 1-4 missions
All I'm saying is I'd like more representation of the actual schools of psyker-ology or whatever you wanna call it rather than basic talents.
But that also probably requires approval by GW.
Does the Relic Blade MK2 have a good crit chance or rather not?
Welp... time to see what kind of horse shit this scar has in store for me, in rogue legacy 2...
Yes and no, there's a specific way to run it.
You take wrath on it so you cleave large amounts of enemies, and the last few you hit in one cleave will bleed with scourge.
Without wrath, you will just outright kill everything you touch, so you cant get scourge value.
My main build I've been running for ~3 weeks is mk2 rb with stalwart piety, wrath and cranial for blessings, flak elites for perks, and I can easily hit 50% crit chance.
Base 5%, 15% from piety, 30% from scourge.
If you want to take the other side of piety for another 10%, be my guest.
Alternatively you could just use mk10 and lightspam your way to victory.
Welp I was right... it was some sort of bs that was awaiting me lol
guess i have about the same, thanks :)
What are the best blessings and refinements|perks for the flamethrower?
wha
i accidentally sent the fartnite image with that
flak/unyielding, blaze away/penetrating flame
60% damage
pen flame stinky
run it with wrath be swift
the whatnite

Die
Pie
This is to well made
i did
Idk
"Ah you think pox gas is your ally? You merely adopted the rot. I was born in it, molded by it."
https://pythosblathers.tumblr.com/post/769225749713518592/yeah-im-enjoying-havoc-mode-why-do-you-ask
found it
Beacon zealots be like
6th interacting with admonition
shake that white boy 🔥
Wonder if it was mocap or some animator working their heart out
I need to follow this artist
there's no case on it
the screens are so thin with this phone you will break it 9/10 times
all the damage you see I did
Lovely design once again from Apple
How were the Nintendo DS screens better than anything
then of course they want it fixed the Saturday of new years right as they were going out of town
then got pissy that we wouldn't have the part until after new years
idk I was destined to hear a white lady bitch and moan at me if I did the repair or refused it
My favorite thing in this game is spawning in with literally 0 ammo.
kill him, kill him now
Tbqh I feel like in order to be competitive with tknives, grenades need to be able recharge
This is mine
And even then, I'm not sure nades would be worth
I need her ( the DE one specifically )
My whole team died and then 2 chaos spawns attacked me
No, the grenades just need to not have shitty pathing.
inside out 4 and its just her dealing with the stress of day to day life
grenade type should be an off branch like shroud
Any and all toughness generation that has easy conditions to meet is going to be better than ones that don't, that's why second wind is so much better than ewew or voice of terra.
Second wind triggers from any attack, including ranged ones (with the exception of gunners and reapers sustained fire), so it's automatically the best pathing.
The thing is
Tknives have regen built in
And they 1hko stuff
Nades? Limited use and worse than other classes
Zealots making it rain fire is not even half as op as Vets throwing like 100 shredders a game
Nades
Brain Burst = infinite usage and dunks on elites. Assail atleast recharges and dunks on gunners
Smite is great when used properly
Zealot nades are like poop in a box
Tknives are god tier tho
Tknives having the best pathing is nuts tbqh
Limited usage tho
I mean so
Tknives can kill a truckload of specials a game
There are 2 classes that use non rechargeable nades
Tbh most of the time I forget they are there
But they are good
Just saying if the pther nades had better pathing I might be using mollies
And the nades are not balanced with that in mind
Youd think vet nades would be the worst but would be made up for by having a higher quantity of them
Ogryn has the best nade

Also vet is not zealot, vet has way less of a safety net than zealot
15% toughness on dodge, until death
Not sure why all of the classes have to do the same thing
vet doesnt need to do melee
you can just pick heads from orbit
Assuming your team protects you yes
However for most vets you still need to know how to use your melee
Knives are definitely meta, but if your taking weapon a quickdrawing weapon like revolver there is some value to taking flame grenades
To deal with large mixed hordes with bulwarks
press f
No I run stealth to feel like a cloaker
Actually that would give me a safety net

lmfao
Pressing f does work, however zealot has way more ways to regenerate toughness by playing the video game
Taking fatal damage every 2 minutes too
Also iframes from fotf
Thats my point
The classes do different things
The nades dont all need to work the same
iron will, confirmed kill, VoC
You mean iron will, and shout
tactical awareness
Which one is tactical awareness
absurd amounts of TDR
6s CDR on special kill
Ah yeah
no but they all should be effective
Forgot its name
And they are, the fire nades are effective
All classes can have a bum nade box, stun, smoke
Ueah buff box
give box cleave
like
a lot of it
i want to launch a cube through a horde to hit a special
Let ogryns use it as a rashun pack
Is it still more powerful to use fotf mid rev attack or did they fix that?
Nope still like that
And chain weapons not working with stealth period
Yeah chastise mid rev will also push stuff around so it creates a safe space
Unless ogryn enemies
They don't care about your flimsy shoulder check

Liberals and their chastise safe spaces I swear..
You could open bulwarks by chastising into the squishy bits back in my day
omg your pfp is me
More people should experience Xiiig gameplay
Rush in light spam Crit everything
Chastise chastise chastise
finger hurting gameplay
it’s so stupidly strong
dw my fingers are very strong
Real
Specially good if you chastise into an open area on silo Cluster while dodging everything sniper, gun shot, crusher, the Chaos Spawn
Brain go happy
chastise the world
Father I crave the blanket
hack the planet
alright, I need to refine my zealot a bit, but I mainly need to make sure I haven the correct things on my combat knife. Im going for combat knife/fast regen on relic, but I dont know what blessings and refinements I should focus
I'll work on tree later
uncanny precog or riposte with flak/carapace/unyielding
maybe maniac
i don’t think so though
I have flak and carapace on currently
but I have uncanny and flesh tearer currently
that’s fine too
Flesh tearer icky.
Change to precog/riposte.
also true
Riposte gives more damage iirc in the long run.
No I meant keep uncanny.
But use either precog or riposte as your other blessing.
You can get upwards of 90% crit rate with riposte.
Pair with duellist and you get funny silly damage numbers.
I play my psyker the most, but I wanted to get better with my zealot. I was invis zealot for awhile until I realized how good relic was lol
You could also run precog and riposte as your two blessings with chastise as your ability to deal with armor.
I also have a dueling sword, but I kinda prefer how fast the knife swings
so I think technically I can get marginally better uptime on my relic
By "relic" are you referring to chorus?
FROGCAST HI ILY 
ye
I'm not going to tell you not to run chorus, I'm just gonna say it is not necessary outside of havocs.
Im referring to Havocs actually lol
Then why are you running knife?
I do meme shit in aurics
There are much better weapons you could be running for havocs.
Yeah that's not gonna fly beyond 30.
Also that is absolutely not true because knife and ds can use the same blessings.
just trying to refine some stuff for 40s
yea but knife attacks slightly faster
And with how IOD works now there isn't really a difference in weapon choice as long as you crit to refresh it.
Which, with both weapons, you will always do.
Assuming you're running them correctly, that is.
my mainly goal is to keep relic up and bolter bosses when I use my zealot
That sounds disgusting but intriguing at the same time.
and also, I'd argue that any build is viable in high havocs if you're good enough (Im not) but combat knife still does its job
I could be attempting worse weapons lol
I just tasted pickles and eggs in my mouth at the same time, that's why.
nah you don't get the pickle flavor because it's cooked out
all you get is the salt and savory flavors
but i like pickles so i don't mind
i mean its better than putting tap water in my eggs
the havoc question is:
- win by any means possible
- win and have fun at the same time
Im new to the relic spam so its actually pretty fun
I normally use invis
well, I normally use my psyker but yea
WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IT´S ME! I´M ABOUT TO PLAY HAVOC AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WEEK
BETTER NOT HAVE TEAMMATES LEAVING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT
OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT TILTS ME
Welcome to LeaveTide, feel free to leave when you go down, I know you aren't strong enough to last for the respawn timer
Bet I'm more patient than anyone. Lol
Actually hoping to get help getting to 30 this morning
🥵 i cant last
Doesn't knife get a higher base crit than dueling sword
Do you know how IOD works?
No
What havoc level?
He does not
I'll take that as a no.
Woe, cspawn grab that absolutely shouldn't hit you hitting you, be upon ye.
prove it...
I can give you some book time
and then 3 bombers and a flamer

i bet i’m more humble than you.
i’m extremely humble
I’m genuinely considering renaming my zealot to LibrarianOfTheReadingRainbow but I’m pretty sure there’s a character limit
Honestly it’s more just use builds that can actually work around high havocs debuffs
There is only one thing that can instantly tilt me in this game and it's cspawn grab hitting me when it absolutely should not.
Which are very limiting
Maybe just TheReadingRainbow
@hard nexus how so. Cause humble people don't brag about anything especially humbleness
I know you don’t mean this
That... is the joke...
i’m so much more humble than you
people praise me for my humbleness
Ok, ig you don’t actually want havoc help 😅
Lol
So anyone wanna play?
is that a word
explodes cyn
:3c nah
yah
The word that's closest to what you're aiming for is humility, afaik.
What are you implying?
work is fucking rotting my brain
But that's still not what humility means. :P
What do you do?
It's a simple question, do you or do you not know?
what brain?
I’m simply so good at the game you have to clutch on your Evis3 @hard nexus
Oof. 😭🤣😭🤣
Because I have a 2hr meeting coming up and I’m considering putting a nailgun to my head to avoid it
I’m just that humble
IT, but our company doesn’t have much work rn so
currently
nothing
Nice
i can only watch so much youtube
Time to skill up and go elsewhere
Yes i know that it's a refreshing 4 second buff that decreases cool down by 200%, so the goal is critting at least every 4 seconds
im the humblest actually... noob
yeah im going to get some certs soon
Nice
explode
Ok, then the slight crit rate difference means nothing.
That was the point I was getting at.
Both weapons have excess of 50% crit rate with ease.
that means as long as a weapon crits every 4 seconds, that’s maximum crit cdr uptime
Is it slight though I am genuinely asking
Make sure to also stick some stuff you can point at during the interview in GitHub. Most people won’t look at it but they WILL be impressed by it 😂
Crit rates are not listed in game
you help old ladies connect the TV to the remote... 😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭
Yes it's slight lol.
me right after breakfast
It's a 5% diff iirc.
sorry can you add a couple more emojis i didn’t get that
What's base crit rate of dueling sword and knife?
I thought knife was like base 15%
what are the best blessings/perks for flamer?
lmao
yeah that’s fair
5% doesn't mean a whole lot when we are dealing in talents that increase by 10% or 15%.
😭🤣😂🤣😭😂😂🤣😭
Where are they listed?
The true struggle is getting passed the ai phase
What would you do if I deleted this image from your phone and pc?
that’s not addiction, that’s dedication
just retype it out
nice reply
overpressure felt incredibly ass against anything with armor when i tried it
I'm about to have to go clock in and I really don't wanna.
i'm applying for a civil service IT job soon (public school). hope i get it, time to have the comfiest job ever
well yeah
crushers won’t die
It's fucking cold outside.
Are the servers down?
but everything else will
27 degrees.
very quickly
Where you at?
bulwarks die very fast to flamer
erhm actually
i’ll show u when i get home
the daily grind
yoppeee!!
that’d be nice
I told them to
i just do grunt work all day and it makes me want to kill myself
Cuz ur bumpy weird...
why would you ever willingly interact with him
he’s so
ugly
and
stupid
my current IT job, I drive around half the day and fix old people network issues. Other half I'm fixing iphones and macbooks
should i organize the closet
I didnae see I told them ovr phone
hrmrmrmmm
The job of doing a whole lotta nothing outside of when something has a hiccup
god i wish
i live like 10 minutes away from multiple schools the commute would be nothing 😭
im from midwest USA...


