#zealot-class

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acoustic dune
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God I wish I could go back to going to gaming ventilated

frozen kernel
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I’m the alien from Men in Black

acoustic dune
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( I hate clothe)

grizzled aspen
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If I'm not wearing at least 2 layers I'm not able to focus.

frozen kernel
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Jacket, Vest, Hoodie, Scarf, Shirt, Thermal Top, Trousers, Thermal Bottoms, WOOL SOCKS

grizzled aspen
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I be out here wearing 2 pairs of pants, a long and short sleeve shirt, and maybe a jacket.

frozen kernel
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That’s my ensemble minus the beanie

copper hawk
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Yucker..

acoustic dune
copper hawk
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What a noobe..

acoustic dune
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Like a goth iutfit

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Bussiness suit

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Or straight up naked

grizzled aspen
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That's wild.

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I'm just talking about being locked in for gaming.

acoustic dune
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Or people whom wear sock in da nude

frozen kernel
acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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Not out of desire, they just never made their way off

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Neither of us noticed until lack of traction

grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
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And no, turning the heat up is not an option.

frozen kernel
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My PC is a machine that converts money into warm air

acoustic dune
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And I don't wanna use the radiator

frozen kernel
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I don’t run heat in my room

acoustic dune
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Bad experience with radiator

grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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Leave the kitchen and bathroom heat so that the pipes don’t freeze but

acoustic dune
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Put on some game

frozen kernel
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I have blankets and a PC

acoustic dune
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Put it under the blanky

frozen kernel
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I don’t need heat, I need cool

grizzled aspen
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Banx is poormaxxing.

copper hawk
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Yall freakz

acoustic dune
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Close it

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Go to sleep

grizzled aspen
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Mf does not run heat in his house unless he absolutely needs it.

frozen kernel
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I just open my window when I play Darktide or Helldivers for like 3-4 hours

grizzled aspen
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Respectable.

frozen kernel
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Because it gets too hot for my ceiling fan on medium to deal with

acoustic dune
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First year in europe

grizzled aspen
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I can't run my ceiling fan in my apartment.

acoustic dune
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And it ran the bills

frozen kernel
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Is it literally cents for the radiators

acoustic dune
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Never again

grizzled aspen
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It just goes CLANG CLANG CLANG and I'm not allowed to re-seat it, according to the landlord.

frozen kernel
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Or is it randomly expensive af

acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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Because “hurr durr muh water”

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Wtf

acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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I feel that

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Bath is liberating once in a while

acoustic dune
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And I have 2 blanky and some coqts

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I'll just stack it upon mr

acoustic dune
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Also I like to do my dish hot

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If my body ain't fuming

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It's not warm enough

grizzled aspen
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The dog is not waking up.

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I fear he is lost.

frozen kernel
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Yeah I used to love watching the steam come off my skin as a kid

grizzled aspen
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Going to thunder hammer his liver.

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I stg if he got home and ate an edible I'm going to flay him.

frozen kernel
acoustic dune
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4 year off my life or so

frozen kernel
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Cica will appear and conscript me again before Lumi shows up

acoustic dune
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Goddamn 3 year streak

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And for what?

frozen kernel
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5 years red army service

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And I get to be the guy who gets the single stripper clip

acoustic dune
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But God does it look fun

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But jesus the lack of ammo

frozen kernel
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I never flew Russian aircraft because Hayabusa never gonna lose ya

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Took me forever to actually learn how to hit shit

grizzled aspen
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The dog has awoken, it seems.

acoustic dune
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4 years and never touch jet tech tree yet

frozen kernel
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With my guns, not the Japanese way

acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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My Project Wingman gameplay has impressed and dismayed my ancestors

acoustic dune
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Before I play anything

grizzled aspen
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I can't stand playing anything involving planes.

acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
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The inverse up and down mechanics fry my brain.

acoustic dune
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Third mission on mercenary

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And I am going schizo

misty ravine
frozen kernel
acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
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If I ever play war thunder I may steal my brother's fancy flight setup.

frozen kernel
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You have to aim like a full centimeter around it depending on the enemy’s movement

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But it never tells you this

grizzled aspen
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He's got one of those little rig things with a proper joystick and whatnot that works for the game.

acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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And because most people don’t load up bot games it’s not like we have a good practice tool to test things cri

acoustic dune
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(Your energy management stink)

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
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I just dodged every single missile

acoustic dune
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Gl

frozen kernel
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And it was pain

acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
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The fucking missile curve

frozen kernel
# grizzled aspen The inverse up and down mechanics fry my brain.

Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator: WWII Europe Series is the first version of all three combat flight simulation games from Microsoft. It was released on 28 October 1998 and it is set in the European Theatre of World War II. This game spawned two sequels: Combat Flight Simulator 2 in 2000 and Combat Flight Simulator 3: Battle for Europe in 2002.

acoustic dune
frozen kernel
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This was my first flying game

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My dad had a joystick and would turn on unlimited fuel and rockets

frozen kernel
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I’d mash Numpad 0 and just annihilate the luftwaffe with gundam tier missile barrages

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First time he loaded up regular MS Flight Sim

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He put me in a chopper

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He watches as I turn it on

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Pull the stick all the way back

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Do a backflip

acoustic dune
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Did you crash immediately?

frozen kernel
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And crash

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Immediately

acoustic dune
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Based

frozen kernel
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“Oh hey pal it’s a helicopter, remember battlefield Vietnam?”

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“Oh like the Huey”

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Nyoom

grizzled aspen
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Battlefield 4 taught me to fly a helicopter in games.

remote lark
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fguh

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st50

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rn

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hv

acoustic dune
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O god the furry is here

grizzled aspen
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You better learn to weave between buildings and 360 like a mf if you wanna survive in bf4.

remote lark
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im baked as fuck and my husband and i are going to play havocs now

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come along dear

obsidian prairie
remote lark
grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
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Also I blame warthunder for turning me into a wehraboo

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God I love my bf109 g2

frozen kernel
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Source nazis kept me from turning into that

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I had my edgy teenage "haha swastika funni" phase when I was like 13-14 and quickly grew out of it

grizzled aspen
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Banx, strike team 50.

frozen kernel
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Comin

grizzled aspen
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Be aware that Lumii is actually fucked up as all hell rn.

acoustic dune
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Then I had to see how the tiger get repair

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And yeah jesus

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They over design so much and forgot about the repair part

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God I wanna go into a scissoring maneuver against someone

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Or do some high yo yo

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Never touch air rb in warthunder mostly custom match with realistic on

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Duel aircraft

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Put wep on

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Lead your shot when they are in a turn

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Have a tea party with the other aircraft

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Fun time

gleaming ember
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is toughness dmg reduction multiplicative or additive. So if i have for example stalwart and enduring fate. do i get 75% or 62.5%

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from multiple sources i mean

spare talon
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theres a few minor exceptions like the minor 5% nodes that are additive but any of the big sources you care about are multiplicitive

gleaming ember
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but additive for damage reduction in generall like good balance right?

obsidian prairie
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Wait the minors are additive

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Fuck

gleaming ember
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is there a formula somewhere?

spare talon
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ah i found it

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i wanted to double check

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they are additive with each other (and i shall not fall, for some reason)

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but their final sum is multiplicitive with the other DR sources

copper hawk
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The noobz toyz w/o me..,

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Ziiiiggh,,.

spare talon
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hamdol coming into chat the exact moment i reference the kuli steam guide

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im about to be obliterated

gleaming ember
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man its so wonky, like you can think you got some good build and like half of the shit does nothing because of the unexplained calculations

obsidian ore
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I don't think there's any additive tdr left in the game except small nodes / I shall not fall, everything else stacks multiplicatively on each other

copper hawk
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I mean

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Lumii grub

copper hawk
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Confirmz..

obsidian prairie
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Just not total immunity good

obsidian ore
spare talon
red swift
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Small nodes are only additive with themselves

obsidian ore
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yeah, that's exactly true

obsidian prairie
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Damn my math for zealot is off shit

obsidian ore
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so if you want to calculate toughness damage reduction, calculate additives together, and use them as a multiplier

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for example,

spare talon
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so with 3 small tdr nodes, enduring and good balance
itd be 1(.75)(.85)(.5)

red swift
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Everyone’s needs to get that information mod if they’re pc tbh

obsidian ore
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if you are calculating on ogryn, make sure to include hidden passive

spare talon
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of 20% flat dr to toughness and hp

obsidian ore
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I remember my friend group calculating the absolute maximum tdr you can get in a perfect moment (when the stars align) in darktide, but I can't find it. It was fun calculating it tho

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might make a fun quiz question, notes taken

spare talon
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is the dr during slides and dodges still in the game

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and sprinting i think was in that too

obsidian ore
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yes but it's a bit more of a complex formula

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it's not exactly tdr

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state_damage_modifiers.dodging it's this modifier

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here's a better explanation I had in my info bank

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the values have changed a bit but it sohuld still be relevant

spare talon
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i remember that

spare talon
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but i couldnt find through the walls of text regarding the subject

remote lark
spare talon
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how exactly it fits into the equation

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so i just did this

obsidian ore
spare talon
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to look at exactly how much dr i get from a realistic build

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which is the piety stalwart build against non-gunners and gunners with 3x gunner dr

red swift
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Zealot taking less damage during sprint makes me understand the design philosophy behind talents like Twbs and swift certainty

twin wagon
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Debating steam is exhausting

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I just provided evidence of zealot 2htk on crushers with relic blade

Yet the luumi clip somehow proves crusher is...better?

remote lark
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?

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u can oneshot crushers on relic blade

twin wagon
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yes

obsidian ore
# spare talon

it's roughly correct, the actual damage might wary a bit since slide sprint modifier is not exactly dr as I said, but it should be very close

twin wagon
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I sadly can't get on pc to put more evidence in so the stupid steam smoothbrains learn something

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Or just forget, flee and come back in 3 days with another shit take

red swift
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Hey is your profile description supposed to be Mordhau related

obsidian ore
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i've lost a lot of passion for darktide lately, mostly because of solo play mod crashing %99 of the time when I try soloing havoc 40

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And the godawful mechanic of deranking is stopping me from doing random duo stuff

red swift
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Still more forgiving than WoW mythic dungeon lol

obsidian ore
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probably, but I don't play WoW lmao

red swift
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The way they setup havoc party finder is basically 1:1 how WoW works but just not as good

cerulean nest
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is the relic blade "better" than the heavy eviscerator ?

twin wagon
red swift
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And is most of your playtime solo havoc?

red swift
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That shit sounds exhausting

remote lark
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very much better

cerulean nest
twin wagon
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Relic blade is better than crusher dps wise too

remote lark
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please don't listen to noobJ

obsidian ore
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I had a relic blade solo run

red swift
obsidian prairie
obsidian ore
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that I was winning, roughly at %80

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and boom a crash again

twin wagon
red swift
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What was the relic blade build I’m curious

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I haven’t been able to put it down since it came out lol

remote lark
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@obsidian ore disdain or atk speed on relic blade do u think

obsidian ore
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It was a crit relic blade setup with dr maxxing

remote lark
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in havoc

obsidian ore
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I'd always go atk spd honeslty

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atk spd outdps's anything disdain can do imo

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also refreshes buffs way faster

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since you hit more

remote lark
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also

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is SOC individual cooldowns/buffs still

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thats what i was told ages ago and then everyone said something different recently

obsidian ore
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what you mean

obsidian prairie
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Does SoC have a shared cooldown or per player

twin wagon
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indignatus is already broken.

+Impact/+Impact already resets crusher and below KD resistance in two hits, any two hits, and +damage +damage will three shot anything in the game that isn't a monstrosity.

One build you literally take NO damage on auric because nothing can touch you without being launched into the air, the other build does relic blade damage in activation mode... except you don't need to activate anything, it's a literal bonus.

The only advantage Zealot Zwei has is hitting multiple targets.

obsidian ore
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ah

remote lark
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i was told when you take SOC each player on your team gets it and its a local cooldown not a global one

obsidian ore
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yeah here's how it works

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kuli explains it better than I do here

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it has one global cooldown

remote lark
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oh

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okay, lame

red swift
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Damn that reminds me I told someone that everyone shares their own cooldown with it a while ago and he was really excited

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I wonder how he’s doing now

obsidian ore
# spare talon

lmao rip mate, dog into poxburster without until death is rough

remote lark
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qwq

obsidian ore
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but I hold the worst loss ever medal

spare talon
quartz marsh
# spare talon

im glad i just shove dogs on sight if they are like a foot from me

obsidian ore
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I lost an IIVEG (before havoc) run on solo psyker on archivum sycorax because after I grabbed the scroll and was in the process of jumping down on the bridge to leave, there was a sniper down there who shot me midair without any counterplay

remote lark
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should i accept

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him

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drop him into hell.

red swift
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Instant pounce hounds speedrunning through tox gas is irriatating

quartz marsh
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i just shove the moment i see them usually

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best not take the risk

obsidian ore
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oh also

red swift
obsidian ore
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one of the absolute worst enemies in the game rn is the fucking sword captain

red swift
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Broken anims xdd

obsidian ore
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ever died to psychic sword slashes you can't see coming since animations are broken?

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incredibly fun

red swift
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The worst is bulwarks tbh

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They need to not reset their shields instantly

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That shits broken I can’t tell if it was intended or not

obsidian ore
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I really love how the chaos warrior shields were designed in v2

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kinda sad bulwarks didn't receive the same love

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at least it's better than those forcefield bulwark days

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that was the shit

red swift
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Back then they were easy to stagger though

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My method was to just charge them when they swung and it was guaranteed stagger

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And they had less health so easy kill

obsidian ore
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that's fair

red swift
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Clutching a run just to turn a corner to 4-5 bulwarks fills me with dread

obsidian ore
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can't leave home without the flamethrower lmao

red swift
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I can see fatshark nerfing flame weapons at the same time they fix up havoc bugs

obsidian ore
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man please no, do you remember how terrible it was when shields actually stopped infinite cleave attacks

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I'm pretty sure they will tone down the damage a bit tho

red swift
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I think infinite cleave is the main offender here lol

obsidian ore
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i wouldn't nerf the max damage on flamer honestly at 15 stacks, but if I had to nerf flamer I'd nerf the damage curve

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The problem with this approach is it makes the poor fire shotty much worse

red swift
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Oh well. Damned is damned

obsidian ore
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also, I am still waiting for the day zarona shotguns will see play

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one day

placid fiber
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Man... I might consider my gunlugger build to be a meme, but, doing 100k boss damage in a run is a hell of a drug

obsidian ore
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they changed the shotgun names and I can't remember the correct one, I'm tryna say the spreadshot one

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Gunlugger is pretty valid for solos btw

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if you want to do some IIVEGS

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as long as you don't shoot hordes on sight, I don't think gunlugger is meme at all

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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Fair enough, going full gunlugger is actually a meme

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but mix it up with heavy hitter, and it's an excellent all rounder boss deleter gungryn

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esp with pickaxes

placid fiber
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My gunlugger build is hella solid, but, I don't take it past heresy because it will only be thought of as a meme build to me... and I am not a fan of bringing meme builds to damnation

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Not with 3 randos on my team, anyway

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It is entertaining watching the randos do a double, triple, and quadruple take as I melt a daemonhost with it tho

twin wagon
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How is glugger a meme

placid fiber
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It isn't

twin wagon
placid fiber
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It is a meme to me as a player because I don't play ogryn as a ranged class... or rather... I just don't like playing ogryn as a ranged class

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It's like if I were playing a gun zealot, to me anyway

vague depot
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Where can I find the ogyrn meta builds

twin wagon
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Ogrynomicon, pin in ogryn chat

vague depot
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That’s actually a good guide?

twin wagon
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Yes

vague depot
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Alright

twin wagon
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For the game as was intended

placid fiber
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Don't get me wrong... my gunlugger build is damnation viable... I just... don't like having a ranged type of build for ogryn on damnation with 3 randos

twin wagon
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I'd change a few things for solos and duos

vague depot
vague depot
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Don’t remember the reasons though

twin wagon
twin wagon
vague depot
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Ah

twin wagon
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Misinformed about Ogryn and toughness regen

placid fiber
twin wagon
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Altho I'd pair it with krourk IV

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so you can outrun pub players

vague depot
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Is there a more simpler title for the builds

placid fiber
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What's funny is unless I miss a lot against a daemonhost on heresy... just dodging backwards while shooting is enough to keep it from damaging me before it dies

twin wagon
placid fiber
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without a combat stim lol

vague depot
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I’m trying to look for stuff like “melee tank” or “generalist” not shit like tyrant and bullgorger

twin wagon
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Can facetank plogryns and chaos spawn too the same way

vague depot
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Why is the guide roleplaying too

twin wagon
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It doesn't contain Ogryn speech, sadly

The names are mostly based off talents or tabletop, there's no tanking in tide games, for a generalist you could go any of the bull rush ones, or hybrids

obsidian ore
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here I made this in like 5 minutes

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give it a shot see how it feels for you

vague depot
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Well not exactly tanking like eating a crap ton of hits

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More like iron breaker where you hold aggro and spam cc

obsidian ore
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You should feel strong in melee still without bleed since pickaxe's damage is already very high

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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You don't need to

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as pickaxe damage is already high enough to frontline efficiently

spare talon
obsidian ore
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ofc batter makes it stronger

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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but not extremely important for pick dmhg

twin wagon
spare talon
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brother its a speedrun
im making fun of speedrunners passing off speedruns as true solos by doing a speedrun and calling it not playing the game

obsidian ore
twin wagon
obsidian ore
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that's why yoıu feel weak

spare talon
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and theyre still saying its impressive
brother it was 13 minutes

obsidian ore
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try my build for one game

vague depot
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I’ll go make a ogyrn tomorrow then

placid fiber
vague depot
obsidian ore
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You say you don't want to use it in damnation, as it feels like trolling no?

vague depot
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Impressive politician

obsidian ore
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Regardless

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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try the setup I just sent here, you'll never go back to full glugger again

twin wagon
obsidian ore
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too much investment in right side without any important returns

twin wagon
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I go full glugger because I don't wanna reload ever again

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Can't stop me

spare talon
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FNP glugger is the way

placid fiber
twin wagon
vague depot
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What’s the ogyrn pub carry build for standard damnation

twin wagon
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Besides I'm sick of running fnp for Havok

obsidian ore
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Yeah I am not here to argue, it's just gonna feel better

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If you make the switch

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it's up to you if you wanna do it or not

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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shield or pickaxe?

vague depot
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I know all 4 classes can handle all content perfectly fine but iirc ogyrn has the hardest time clutching up

vague depot
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I’m assuming shield for aoe cc and pickaxe for single target?

obsidian ore
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shield for team sustain, important on high havocs

twin wagon
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That ain't gonna change much with a good build

obsidian ore
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pickaxe for bonkers damage

twin wagon
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Ogryn will always be the hardest to clutch with

vague depot
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Does ogyrn also have to make a different loadout to deal with havoc modifiers

vague depot
twin wagon
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No

vague depot
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Big body?

obsidian ore
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no, ogryn works fine regardless

twin wagon
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Dodge cool down

obsidian ore
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ogryn has two different setups for havoc (maybe 3)

vague depot
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Ah I’m cooked then

obsidian ore
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frontline dps, frontline sustain and boss deleter

vague depot
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What’s the time compared to a zealot

placid fiber
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While the ogryn channel said this build looks more ilke a meme... This is how I like to play ogryn: Melee. A gun specialty just isn't my cup of tea for damnation+ on oggy

vague depot
obsidian ore
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Sure, keep in mind I mostly play havoc 40

vague depot
placid fiber
twin wagon
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I don't like it

vague depot
twin wagon
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Mostly because of the tax node after rock

Otherwise looks great

vague depot
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What’s the purpose of the 3 grenades

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Rock for st, box for aoe, fire for bigger better aoe?

placid fiber
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For maelstroms or aurics this is something I would consider instead

obsidian ore
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that is not a meme honestly

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I will share my ogryn setups here though

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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I was going to share my havoc 40 setups

vague depot
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More dps sounds good

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I don’t think I’m gonna do havocs with ogyrn lmao

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Leaving that to psyker and zealot

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Just gonna get a ogyrn to 30 and then some for fun

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Bought the game might as well play all the classes

twin wagon
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Don't forget to ask Ogryns, most are helpful

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And some of us also hang around zealot chat to piss them off

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like me

placid fiber
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@obsidian ore This is what I use with the heavy hitter build

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409hp and 217 toughness are what I end up with :3

obsidian ore
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this is the shield one for aurics

vague depot
obsidian ore
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I for the love of me can't remember the gorgonum stubber breakpoints

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for regular auric

vague depot
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Either roleplay or straight up ignore

twin wagon
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Never seen that happen, I'm sorry it did

obsidian ore
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On havoc 40, those modifiers I put on stubber are required for one shots

vague depot
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I got some crazy beef with ogyrn chat and none of them even know

twin wagon
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Likely NA ogryns

vague depot
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I can’t even remember them individually I just got beef with the whole ass channel

placid fiber
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well...

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that's the main thing anyway

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I can't remember if it requires a crit tho

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Trapper racism is my favorite goal in darktide >.>

twin wagon
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Yep from what I can see the issue is you tried to deal with NA ogryns

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idk what it is with NA but they tend to be rude

vague depot
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Yea I know I’m in NA I’m part of the problem

vague depot
placid fiber
obsidian ore
vague depot
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Can I also run different weapons on that loadout for the mastery

obsidian ore
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you can do whatever you want

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these are just the optimal skill trees for frontline ogryn

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things do change for havoc 40

vague depot
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Sounds good thanks

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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but you said you'd stick around in damnation

vague depot
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Yea

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Maybe one day I’ll consider running a taunt ogyrn for havoc

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But that’s all I can think of

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And one last question

obsidian ore
vague depot
#

Should I make my ogryns name a definition of something or just the first garbled word my head comes up with

obsidian ore
#

why are you running deadly accurate

placid fiber
obsidian ore
#

you'll just get way more value out of running opening salvo

twin wagon
vague depot
#

But then again my two characters are knuk and biantai

obsidian ore
#

Brotato is a really good game lmao

vague depot
#

I only know bro force

nimble fiber
#

brotato is fun ye

obsidian ore
#

My ogryn was named princess for a long time

vague depot
#

What if I just named it bro

obsidian ore
#

there's something majestic about a princess that's just a 3 meter tall muscular war tank

vague depot
#

Jiansu

#

Jiansu sounds fire

obsidian ore
#

anyways gonna hop in a duo with kej

#

peace out

vague depot
#

Have a good one

#

Thanks for the builds

spare talon
#

princess throws a literal nuke

placid fiber
#

Welp... it's now time to find out if the +100% damage dealt from the serrated handles bargain, in rogue leagcy 2, is additive or multiplicitive... >.>

#

It would appear... the bonus damage is additive...

#

Fuck, that means taking it sucks lol

grizzled aspen
#

Gotta love bulwarks.

placid fiber
#

It still at least makes me do ~50% more damage, at least, in this current run...

stone fern
#

perfectly balanced

placid fiber
#

There's a lore room dummy that I wail on to see my damage #'s(and to get mana back at any time) <.<

#

It only took me until NG+8 to actually test out to see if I really was doing double damage with that relic... <.<'

potent gate
#

If you can animation cancel, it's only fair they can too

frozen kernel
potent gate
#

He might not have won the battle but he will go down in history

frozen kernel
#

Not pictured is the triple mutie stack

#

With the dog parry in the middle of killing the second one

grizzled aspen
twin wagon
#

That Ogryn main really was something

#

Best way to beat bulwarks is to not play their game, acquire an Ogryn thumbsup_ogryn and have them play their game instead

#

Our Ogryn>Their Ogryn

#

basic ogrynomics really

grizzled aspen
#

:)

twin wagon
#

Ye Ogryn needs a buff

#

Make Bulwarks have an overhead shield slam that tracks and has aoe

#

Similar to our own shield h1

grizzled aspen
#

I think some weapons need a 2nd special attack.

#

Actually nvm fatshark would probably explode if they tried that.

twin wagon
#

Yes

misty nova
#

Rock

twin wagon
#

Or push them in melee
Or ignore their shield with your shield
Or charge
Or run past them

grizzled aspen
frozen kernel
#

Except you have to draw it like MGS Rising

grizzled aspen
#

Power maul and crusher would both crumple it, power sword and relic blade would cut through it, and psykers can just move the shield with their mind.

#

A chainsword would take a while, an eviscerator would have it cut in half in seconds.

twin wagon
#

Psyker could just expose the Ogryn to rashon burning

#

and have him collapse

grizzled aspen
#

Lore accurate sanctic powers would have that ogryn on his knees begging and weeping for death.

#

It also kinda bothers me that we don't have anything involving sanctic powers for psyker.

#

Savant was professionally trained, they should have something.

#

One could argue Seer and Loner pulling a "monkey see, monkey do" for sanctic powers, too.

twin wagon
#

Replace assail with a buff to allies that gives them more toughness on kill

#

That you have to manually send to them

#

Done

grizzled aspen
#

Replace smite.

#

Then we have a deal.

twin wagon
#

What if left click smite buffed allies

#

and right click simply knocked enemies down in exchange of 40% peril

#

so it's easier to weave in your staff bs?

#

Lots of zerkers? Brief m2 to knock down, m1 to allies, 60% ish charge and start staffing or meleeing

grizzled aspen
#

The two schools of thought we have represented are pyromancy and divination. That leaves sanctic powers, biomancy, and telepathy.

twin wagon
#

Isn't smite called "bio-lighting"?

grizzled aspen
#

Technically?

twin wagon
grizzled aspen
#

But nobody really sees it as biomancy.

#

"Proper" biomancy is doing things like giving yourself super strength and whatnot.

#

Strengthening the body, sharpening the physical senses, that kind of thing.

twin wagon
#

Could be a buff to ally cleave, relevant in havok

grizzled aspen
#

Biomancy also involves healing wounds but for obvious reasons we aren't touching that aspect.

#

Divination is represented by disrupt destiny, pyromancy is represented by soulblaze talents like pc.

#

I suppose one could argue EP as sanctic?

#

And shriek as telepathic?

misty nova
#

The Biomancer
The Protectorate
The Exile

frosty herald
#

Biomancer diviner telekinetic

twin wagon
#

Shriek is technically telepathy

#

atleast if we go by dark crusade tabletop but like

#

lmao

frosty herald
#

Brain burst too

frosty herald
#

Darktide is based on dark crusade

twin wagon
#

if we went for everything by dark crusade rules, we'd die instantly

remote holly
#

Shriek is basically assail from Necromunda and that's telekinetic

grizzled aspen
twin wagon
#

and have to boot up new characters every 1-4 missions

grizzled aspen
#

All I'm saying is I'd like more representation of the actual schools of psyker-ology or whatever you wanna call it rather than basic talents.

#

But that also probably requires approval by GW.

glad stone
#

Does the Relic Blade MK2 have a good crit chance or rather not?

placid fiber
#

Welp... time to see what kind of horse shit this scar has in store for me, in rogue legacy 2...

grizzled aspen
#

You take wrath on it so you cleave large amounts of enemies, and the last few you hit in one cleave will bleed with scourge.

#

Without wrath, you will just outright kill everything you touch, so you cant get scourge value.

#

My main build I've been running for ~3 weeks is mk2 rb with stalwart piety, wrath and cranial for blessings, flak elites for perks, and I can easily hit 50% crit chance.

#

Base 5%, 15% from piety, 30% from scourge.

#

If you want to take the other side of piety for another 10%, be my guest.

#

Alternatively you could just use mk10 and lightspam your way to victory.

placid fiber
glad stone
nimble fiber
tame frigate
#

What are the best blessings and refinements|perks for the flamethrower?

nimble fiber
#

wha

hard nexus
twilit otter
#

60% damage

hard nexus
#

pen flame stinky

twilit otter
#

run it with wrath be swift

modern lintel
hard nexus
#

someone said brapauto

modern lintel
nimble fiber
hard nexus
#

and it reminded me of that

#

so i downloaded it

frosty herald
nimble fiber
tepid shoal
hard nexus
#

EWWWWWW

#

LMFAO

fleet zealot
hard nexus
#

look at what it’s in reply to

drowsy steppe
#

who made that its a good art

hard nexus
#

i did

tepid shoal
#

Idk

#

"Ah you think pox gas is your ally? You merely adopted the rot. I was born in it, molded by it."

frozen kernel
frozen kernel
#

Beacon zealots be like

hard nexus
drowsy steppe
#

shake that white boy 🔥

frozen kernel
#

Wonder if it was mocap or some animator working their heart out

merry flume
#

I HATE THE IPHONE 12 MINI!!!!!!

#

WORST PHONE EVER TO WORK ON!!!!

drowsy steppe
frozen kernel
#

That’s a skinty case

#

Otter box stronk

merry flume
#

there's no case on it

#

the screens are so thin with this phone you will break it 9/10 times

#

all the damage you see I did

frozen kernel
#

Lovely design once again from Apple

#

How were the Nintendo DS screens better than anything

merry flume
#

then of course they want it fixed the Saturday of new years right as they were going out of town

#

then got pissy that we wouldn't have the part until after new years

#

idk I was destined to hear a white lady bitch and moan at me if I did the repair or refused it

grizzled aspen
#

My favorite thing in this game is spawning in with literally 0 ammo.

merry flume
#

kill him, kill him now

muted pike
#

Tbqh I feel like in order to be competitive with tknives, grenades need to be able recharge

muted pike
#

And even then, I'm not sure nades would be worth

fleet zealot
tame frigate
#

My whole team died and then 2 chaos spawns attacked meHeresy

grizzled aspen
drowsy steppe
merry flume
#

grenade type should be an off branch like shroud

grizzled aspen
#

Any and all toughness generation that has easy conditions to meet is going to be better than ones that don't, that's why second wind is so much better than ewew or voice of terra.

#

Second wind triggers from any attack, including ranged ones (with the exception of gunners and reapers sustained fire), so it's automatically the best pathing.

nimble fiber
misty nova
#

Pretty

muted pike
#

The thing is

#

Tknives have regen built in

#

And they 1hko stuff

#

Nades? Limited use and worse than other classes

#

Zealots making it rain fire is not even half as op as Vets throwing like 100 shredders a game

misty nova
#

Worse than other classes?

#

Brain Burst

muted pike
#

Nades

misty nova
#

Box

#

Fucking Box

#

C'mon man

muted pike
#

Brain Burst = infinite usage and dunks on elites. Assail atleast recharges and dunks on gunners

#

Smite is great when used properly

#

Zealot nades are like poop in a box

#

Tknives are god tier tho

misty nova
#

Poop in a box
Yeah that's box

#

Lmao

muted pike
#

Tknives having the best pathing is nuts tbqh

normal wren
#

The mollies are pretty good tbh from when I used them

#

Main issue was pathing

muted pike
#

Limited usage tho

normal wren
#

I mean so

muted pike
#

Tknives can kill a truckload of specials a game

normal wren
#

There are 2 classes that use non rechargeable nades

normal wren
#

But they are good

#

Just saying if the pther nades had better pathing I might be using mollies

muted pike
#

Youd think vet nades would be the worst but would be made up for by having a higher quantity of them

normal wren
#

Ogryn has the best nade

#

Also vet is not zealot, vet has way less of a safety net than zealot

#

15% toughness on dodge, until death

#

Not sure why all of the classes have to do the same thing

stone fern
#

you can just pick heads from orbit

normal wren
#

However for most vets you still need to know how to use your melee

twilit otter
#

Knives are definitely meta, but if your taking weapon a quickdrawing weapon like revolver there is some value to taking flame grenades

#

To deal with large mixed hordes with bulwarks

normal wren
#

Actually that would give me a safety net

hard nexus
#

lmfao

normal wren
#

Pressing f does work, however zealot has way more ways to regenerate toughness by playing the video game

twilit otter
#

Taking fatal damage every 2 minutes too

normal wren
hard nexus
#

zealot has more safety nets, but they should

#

as they are the melee class

normal wren
#

The classes do different things

hard nexus
#

vet however

#

has too many safety nets

normal wren
#

The nades dont all need to work the same

hard nexus
#

iron will, confirmed kill, VoC

normal wren
hard nexus
#

tactical awareness

normal wren
#

Which one is tactical awareness

hard nexus
#

absurd amounts of TDR

hard nexus
normal wren
#

Ah yeah

hard nexus
normal wren
#

Forgot its name

normal wren
hard nexus
#

ogryn box is the one that’s just

#

bad

#

outright

normal wren
#

All classes can have a bum nade box, stun, smoke

normal wren
hard nexus
#

give box cleave

#

like

#

a lot of it

#

i want to launch a cube through a horde to hit a special

normal wren
#

Let ogryns use it as a rashun pack

steep flame
sturdy cypress
#

Is it still more powerful to use fotf mid rev attack or did they fix that?

fleet zealot
#

And chain weapons not working with stealth period

misty nova
#

Yeah chastise mid rev will also push stuff around so it creates a safe space

#

Unless ogryn enemies

#

They don't care about your flimsy shoulder check

visual stream
#

Liberals and their chastise safe spaces I swear..

misty nova
#

You could open bulwarks by chastising into the squishy bits back in my day

merry flume
misty nova
#

More people should experience Xiiig gameplay

#

Rush in light spam Crit everything
Chastise chastise chastise

merry flume
#

finger hurting gameplay

misty nova
#

Vroom vroom to the face

#

Get stronger fingers 💪

hard nexus
hard nexus
misty nova
misty nova
#

Specially good if you chastise into an open area on silo Cluster while dodging everything sniper, gun shot, crusher, the Chaos Spawn

#

Brain go happy

merry flume
#

chastise the world

normal wren
hard nexus
ionic zephyr
#

alright, I need to refine my zealot a bit, but I mainly need to make sure I haven the correct things on my combat knife. Im going for combat knife/fast regen on relic, but I dont know what blessings and refinements I should focus

#

I'll work on tree later

hard nexus
#

maybe maniac

#

i don’t think so though

ionic zephyr
#

I have flak and carapace on currently

#

but I have uncanny and flesh tearer currently

hard nexus
#

that’s fine too

grizzled aspen
#

Flesh tearer icky.

hard nexus
#

not a big fan of bleed builds

#

but it can work

#

kinda

grizzled aspen
#

Change to precog/riposte.

hard nexus
#

also true

grizzled aspen
#

Riposte gives more damage iirc in the long run.

ionic zephyr
#

I'll try out precog riposte

#

thanks for the help

grizzled aspen
#

No I meant keep uncanny.

#

But use either precog or riposte as your other blessing.

ionic zephyr
#

oh gotcha

#

I may do riposte then

grizzled aspen
#

You can get upwards of 90% crit rate with riposte.

#

Pair with duellist and you get funny silly damage numbers.

ionic zephyr
#

I play my psyker the most, but I wanted to get better with my zealot. I was invis zealot for awhile until I realized how good relic was lol

grizzled aspen
#

You could also run precog and riposte as your two blessings with chastise as your ability to deal with armor.

ionic zephyr
#

I also have a dueling sword, but I kinda prefer how fast the knife swings

#

so I think technically I can get marginally better uptime on my relic

grizzled aspen
#

By "relic" are you referring to chorus?

hushed knoll
#

FROGCAST HI ILY cPES_PoggersHeart

ionic zephyr
grizzled aspen
# ionic zephyr ye

I'm not going to tell you not to run chorus, I'm just gonna say it is not necessary outside of havocs.

ionic zephyr
grizzled aspen
#

Then why are you running knife?

ionic zephyr
#

I do meme shit in aurics

grizzled aspen
#

There are much better weapons you could be running for havocs.

ionic zephyr
#

Im running knife/bolter

#

knife is marginally better uptime on relic

#

than dueling

grizzled aspen
#

Yeah that's not gonna fly beyond 30.

ionic zephyr
#

I mean Ive done a 38 with it lol

#

and Ive done a 39 on my psyker build

grizzled aspen
ionic zephyr
#

just trying to refine some stuff for 40s

ionic zephyr
grizzled aspen
#

And with how IOD works now there isn't really a difference in weapon choice as long as you crit to refresh it.

#

Which, with both weapons, you will always do.

#

Assuming you're running them correctly, that is.

ionic zephyr
#

my mainly goal is to keep relic up and bolter bosses when I use my zealot

merry flume
#

i just made a french omelette with pickle juice

#

😩

grizzled aspen
merry flume
#

why would it be gross

#

pickle juice is just salt, garlic, bay leaf, and fennel

ionic zephyr
#

and also, I'd argue that any build is viable in high havocs if you're good enough (Im not) but combat knife still does its job

#

I could be attempting worse weapons lol

grizzled aspen
merry flume
#

nah you don't get the pickle flavor because it's cooked out

#

all you get is the salt and savory flavors

#

but i like pickles so i don't mind

#

i mean its better than putting tap water in my eggs

merry flume
ionic zephyr
#

Im new to the relic spam so its actually pretty fun

#

I normally use invis

#

well, I normally use my psyker but yea

ornate bone
#

WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IT´S ME! I´M ABOUT TO PLAY HAVOC AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WEEK

#

BETTER NOT HAVE TEAMMATES LEAVING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT

#

OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT TILTS ME

hearty nebula
#

Welcome to LeaveTide, feel free to leave when you go down, I know you aren't strong enough to last for the respawn timer

vocal hatch
#

Bet I'm more patient than anyone. Lol

#

Actually hoping to get help getting to 30 this morning

twilit otter
grizzled aspen
hearty nebula
#

No

hearty nebula
#

He does not

vocal hatch
#

I'll take that as a no.

grizzled aspen
hearty nebula
thorn sable
hard nexus
hearty nebula
hard nexus
#

i’m extremely humble

thorn sable
#

I’m genuinely considering renaming my zealot to LibrarianOfTheReadingRainbow but I’m pretty sure there’s a character limit

sullen forge
grizzled aspen
#

There is only one thing that can instantly tilt me in this game and it's cspawn grab hitting me when it absolutely should not.

sullen forge
#

Which are very limiting

thorn sable
#

Maybe just TheReadingRainbow

vocal hatch
#

@hard nexus how so. Cause humble people don't brag about anything especially humbleness

hard nexus
#

people praise me for my humbleness

thorn sable
#

Ok, ig you don’t actually want havoc help 😅

vocal hatch
#

Lol

hard nexus
#

someone like you should grovel at my humblity

#

humbility

vocal hatch
#

So anyone wanna play?

hard nexus
#

is that a word

hearty nebula
#

explodes cyn

hard nexus
#

tbh

hearty nebula
#

:3c nah

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
hard nexus
#

yes

#

that

#

thank u

hard nexus
twilit otter
hard nexus
#

work is fucking rotting my brain

grizzled aspen
#

But that's still not what humility means. :P

thorn sable
grizzled aspen
hearty nebula
#

what brain?

grizzled aspen
#

:3

sullen forge
#

I’m simply so good at the game you have to clutch on your Evis3 @hard nexus

vocal hatch
thorn sable
#

Because I have a 2hr meeting coming up and I’m considering putting a nailgun to my head to avoid it

sullen forge
#

I’m just that humble

hard nexus
#

currently

#

nothing

thorn sable
#

Nice

hard nexus
#

i can only watch so much youtube

thorn sable
#

Time to skill up and go elsewhere

twilit otter
hearty nebula
hard nexus
thorn sable
#

Nice

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
#

That was the point I was getting at.

#

Both weapons have excess of 50% crit rate with ease.

hard nexus
twilit otter
#

Is it slight though I am genuinely asking

thorn sable
twilit otter
#

Crit rates are not listed in game

vocal hatch
grizzled aspen
merry flume
grizzled aspen
#

It's a 5% diff iirc.

hard nexus
twilit otter
#

What's base crit rate of dueling sword and knife?

#

I thought knife was like base 15%

gleaming ember
#

what are the best blessings/perks for flamer?

merry flume
#

lmao

grizzled aspen
#

5% doesn't mean a whole lot when we are dealing in talents that increase by 10% or 15%.

fleet zealot
#

5% perk is always 5% perk

#

It is not multiplicative

vocal hatch
twilit otter
normal wren
grizzled aspen
# hard nexus

What would you do if I deleted this image from your phone and pc?

hard nexus
hard nexus
hearty nebula
# hard nexus

overpressure felt incredibly ass against anything with armor when i tried it

grizzled aspen
#

I'm about to have to go clock in and I really don't wanna.

merry flume
hard nexus
#

crushers won’t die

grizzled aspen
#

It's fucking cold outside.

vocal hatch
#

Are the servers down?

hard nexus
#

but everything else will

grizzled aspen
#

27 degrees.

hard nexus
#

very quickly

hearty nebula
#

bulwarks didnt either

#

even with a full mag

hard nexus
#

other than skill issue

vocal hatch
hard nexus
#

bulwarks die very fast to flamer

hearty nebula
#

erhm actually

hard nexus
#

i’ll show u when i get home

hearty nebula
#

its skull issue...

#

noob...

hard nexus
#

euuuughhhh

#

why did my boss move me to 9-5

#

GUHHHHHH

#

I WANT HOME !!

#

sorry

merry flume
#

the daily grind

hearty nebula
hard nexus
hearty nebula
#

Cuz ur bumpy weird...

hard nexus
#

he’s so

#

ugly

#

and

#

stupid

merry flume
#

my current IT job, I drive around half the day and fix old people network issues. Other half I'm fixing iphones and macbooks

hard nexus
#

should i organize the closet

hearty nebula
#

I didnae see I told them ovr phone

hard nexus
#

hrmrmrmmm

hard nexus
#

scottish

sullen forge
merry flume
#

god i wish

hard nexus
#

i’m

#

anger

#

because i get paid so little

merry flume
#

i live like 10 minutes away from multiple schools the commute would be nothing 😭

hearty nebula
hard nexus
#

when my fucking coworker gets 24 an hour for DOING LITERALLY NOTHING

#

RUUGH

merry flume
#

and making like 80k base

#

GIVE IT TO ME