zealot-class

[red swift]

assail is shite

[copper hawk]

YO MAMA

[hearty nebula]

you're shite

and you smell like it too

[copper hawk]

YO MAMA !!

[hearty nebula]

what about her

[red swift]

also with Souldrinker on the soulblze gunpsyker build, it applies and stacks as long as the enemy who is affected by soulblaze dies

to anything

they just need the dot

thats free toughness and crit

[frozen kernel]

Ancient

This looks like a great start

[red swift]

why warp unbound over 20% tdr? what for?

[hearty nebula]

because you shouldn't be getting hit anyways

stop getting hit noob

[red swift]

oh my days

[frozen kernel]

Our vet is crashing out

in chat

[hearty nebula]

but warp unbound is mostly just there for certified Fatshark Quality™️ moments

[spare talon]

assail is an instant stagger on most things, a few can be thrown and put in work while you use gun/melee, procs true aim for EE, kills proc MM for more damage with both, and can be used for quick toughness gen from crits or warp kills

[frozen kernel]

Its his sthick

[spare talon]

plus warp splitting works on it

you can literally make assail your horde clear

[hearty nebula]

i've been fucked over more than once with being peril'd when i'm well below 100%

[red swift]

Doesn't it generate like a lot of peril that youd want for scriers

[muted pike]

No psykinetics aura?

[red swift]

IKR

^^^^^^^^

and 1 point in assail in havoc wont do much of

anything

[hearty nebula]

using blazeforce greatsword

[spare talon]

scriers warp unbound means you can throw max peril dmg max peril cleave shards for 10 seconds

[hearty nebula]

30m infinite cleave

[limber sparrow]

how do the different toughness damage reduction effects interact? I saw someone mention the other day that the bonus from enduring faith applies differently from other effect

[hearty nebula]

yes you will be spamming it

[muted pike]

Yeah spamming it, but psykinetics aura

[hearty nebula]

you will oneshot literally everything anyways

[red swift]

but you're throwing shards without any extra talents instead of using your sword or gun during the finesse / crit / damage bonus

I think that's just lost value

[hearty nebula]

anything that is not a crusher or a mauler dies in one hit essentially when you hit max scrier's gaze stacks

[red swift]

and it's over 20% tdr

[spare talon]

they still fly while you use those things

[red swift]

and it's also being compared to psykinetic's aura/smite

which is just worse imo

[hearty nebula]

if the rest of your team can't cope with not getting that 5% cdr

find a better team

[red swift]

It's not that they can't cope bro

It's that it has huge impact

[hearty nebula]

i promise you it does not

[red swift]

uuugh

[muted pike]

This guy

Doodoo build is doodoo

[hearty nebula]

yes his build that he linked is doodoo

this is established

[muted pike]

Yours with your 1 point in assail and no psykinetics aura

My god

[hearty nebula]

you don't need more in assail

[muted pike]

Its like running it down mid in league

[real frigate]

sooo crusher overheads can kill you with 2 wounds in havoc?

[muted pike]

You dont need any in assail

Thats the problem

[hearty nebula]

crusher overheads can kill you in damnation (if you don't have enough hp) lol

i recommend not getting hit by it

[real frigate]

with 2 wounds

[hearty nebula]

yes

with 2 wounds

[real frigate]

apparently they do corruption as well

in havoc

[hearty nebula]

dont most things in havoc do corruption

[limber sparrow]

yes that is one of the modiifiers

[real frigate]

which one?

[muted pike]

Assail locks you out of psykinetics aura, thats why the good psykers never take it.

Assail isn't bad, its not phenominal but its not bad. It locks you out of psykinetics though which is why every serious psyker build takes brain burst

[hearty nebula]

yeah but then you're running fucking smite lmao

[limber sparrow]

it is just innate to havoc. melee damage will deal a portion of thier damage as corruption once you reach a certain ranking

[hearty nebula]

and also going halfway across the tree to ultimately just take worse traits for a gunker

[real frigate]

got you ty

[muted pike]

Its either smite or brain burst

[red swift]

the wildfire soulblaze gives crit and toughness...

oh sorry didnt mean to reply lol

[muted pike]

Some take smite to save point and never use it

[hearty nebula]

you already get crit out the ass with scrier's

[red swift]

the crit is 20%

more EE uptime

consistency

[hearty nebula]

pretty sure souldrinker only grants 5% cc

[red swift]

I wouldnt know the specifics about TDR but it has diminishing returns I think

still worth stacking though

[real frigate]

was full health on my vet and just died lol

[red swift]

I think defensive stuff in this game is calculcated multiplicitavely

[limber sparrow]

the crusher overhead does like 400 damage, has a modifier for increased damage against the toughness bar, and all excess damage will bleed over to your health.

[delicate shadow]

it doesn't grant 5% crowd control

[hearty nebula]

crit chance

not crowd control

[delicate shadow]

oh yes Critical Hit Chance, CHC

[limber sparrow]

more than 400 actually but i do not recall how much exatly

[hearty nebula]

it's kind of

meh on gunker

because you're getting +20% crit chance and up to +30% finesse damage if you take precognition

[real frigate]

soo do i take health curios and corruption ressistance or extra wounds lol

[frosty herald]

Funny how the gunpsyker tree works amazing for fgs

[hearty nebula]

and pairing that with DD it's just

yeah you don't need it

[muted pike]

This gives you psykinetics aura and has a free point to spend as you see fit. You're going to be critting like crazy so you will have a ton of toughness gen and speed from Mettle (5% per crit and up to 20% move speed)

[red swift]

how does precognition affect your EE stacks

[muted pike]

That is an actual build

[hearty nebula]

this is less bad

[limber sparrow]

I would highly recommend juhst not getting hit by the crusher overhead swing. it is likely going to down you regardless in a lot of situations

[red swift]

29/30

[hearty nebula]

also missing 1 trait point in it

[muted pike]

Its a flex point

[red swift]

Music you should try the soulblaze gunpsyker build

[hearty nebula]

but still worse

[red swift]

tell me how it is

[hearty nebula]

malefic momentum is gunker's bread & butter

if you don't have it

don't play gunker

[real frigate]

yeah i normally shit on packs on them, I just wasnt expecting that

[red swift]

dude

no it's not

[muted pike]

The most trash take

[hearty nebula]

yes it is

[muted pike]

Trash

[hearty nebula]

it is 20% damage at max stacks

or 18%

math

[muted pike]

What bps does that allow you to hit?

[hearty nebula]

alot

[frosty herald]

Malefic works amazing for fgs special

[muted pike]

How often do you have 5 stacks from the warp kills?

[hearty nebula]

all the fucking time just use your assail

[muted pike]

How much of your damage in a fkn gunker build with ONE POINT in assail is coming from warp damage?

So put your sword/gun away and spam doodoo assails? Sounds like you are losing damage

[hearty nebula]

?????? are you trying to use assail on fucking crushers?

[red swift]

using 1 point assail in havoc sounds pretty miserable ngl

and it is

[muted pike]

You are literally giving up psykinetics aura so your one and only attack that does warp damage outside of your doodoo assail gets a tad stronger

My god

[hearty nebula]

unless it's giving trash mobs flak or carapace armor (which it doesn't) it's fine

[muted pike]

Its doodoo

[hearty nebula]

you're doodoo

stinky doodoo

[copper hawk]

u r sploo sploo

[hearty nebula]

like hog farm

[copper hawk]

y so bumpy weirdful

ill splunch u

[hearty nebula]

ikr...

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/konata-hawk-hawk-tuah-konata-hawk-tuah-gif-12358301043525212611

hawk tuahs at u

(u just got rabies)

[limber sparrow]

can anyone explain how the different toughness damage reduction effects interact? Someone mentioned that enduring faith 50% toughness damage reduction did not apply in the same way as other effects and made them redundant to each other the other day and I would like to better understand how these interact. I was considering grabbing stalwart and infectious zeal over fury rising and righteous warrior, but I am unsure how beneficial it would be to have over the extra crit rate.

[hearty nebula]

scrunches u like bug

noob..

[muted pike]

Youre doing 0 damage with your gun/sword while you poke at stuff with your 1 point assail trying to cope with max stacks of a buff that lasts 5 seconds

Its trash

[frosty herald]

Ur bumpy

[hearty nebula]

malefic lasts 8s

[muted pike]

Take psykinetics aura, use your sword/gun, win the game for yourself and team

You kill stuff, team kills stuff, everyone is happy, gg

[red swift]

I'm pretty sure they just mean that diminishing returns start to take effect. I'm pretty sure toughness DR stacks multiplicitavely which is why they say this but i'll have to double check. You'll get plenty value out of 25% DR on stalwart, but I prefer the extra crit and consistency of the stack on crit.

[hearty nebula]

and even if it was 5s, that's more than enough time to just whip out your fgs & shoot out a charged attack

[muted pike]

1 attack

[hearty nebula]

that shit comes out quick

[hearty nebula]

yeah. with 30 meters. of (almost) infinite range that oneshots essentially anything that is not a crusher or bulwark

[copper hawk]

UR BUMPY !

[muted pike]

Yeah, with or without malefic

[hearty nebula]

both

1 charge with malefic

[muted pike]

Heres the kicker

[limber sparrow]

thank you!

[hearty nebula]

2 charges doesn't need malefic

but it helps against elite hordes a lot since armor can stop special attack short

[copper hawk]

Here's the kicker

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-kicker-gif-26137308

[red swift]

Yeah, it just stacks multiplicatively. So just go ham on TDR if you want, since the way that works, the more you go over 50% the more exponential value you'll get

[muted pike]

Psykinetics cdr applies to scriers while it is active

[red swift]

or something like that

[muted pike]

Allowing for more scriers uptime

[red swift]

I'm not sure about diminishing returns though, if there's any

[muted pike]

Dude

[hearty nebula]

scriers already has a like effective cdr of like

5 fucking seconds

lmao

or some shit

because you aren't letting your special attack out the moment scrier's ends, you're doing it just before the 10s lingering buff ends

[muted pike]

Lol, youre willing to trade uptime of scriers for some buff that relies on a 1 point assail to be active

[hearty nebula]

and you're ideally running seer's presence for that additional 10% cdr

so it's like what, 12~13s at most?

[plush estuary]

15 sec

[delicate shadow]

all this talk about gunker when rumbler glugger is right there smh

[hearty nebula]

snoregryn../.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289540858479247382/1316033280138543134/caption.gif

[muted pike]

Right, leave it to zealot chat to post nonsense psyker builds and defend it with even more nonsense

[hearty nebula]

it's fine to be objectively wrong just don't make me read it

:3c

[tepid sorrel]

i watched banx just let themselves be corrupted to 1hp

that was some fucked up shit

[muted pike]

When a psyker with assail is dying and I was a mere couple seconds from activating book which would have prevented his death, should I bother reviving him?

[copper hawk]

He freaky like that

On Diddy

[hearty nebula]

bassed banx

[copper hawk]

Bassed..

[tepid sorrel]

diddy put the oil away please

[hearty nebula]

no because he sucks, he should stop getting hit

[tepid sorrel]

DIDDY

[hearty nebula]

:3c

[copper hawk]

Yah epic cole knows NOTHING about psyker

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-wtf-ew-cute-cat-gif-5684227202751298545

[frozen kernel]

Forbidden slip n slide

[tepid sorrel]

cole should be beaten to death (with hammers)

[frozen kernel]

I didnt want to take the medicae

But then I was like "fuck it better me than this vet"

[copper hawk]

Cole that cat gif u sent earlier is like a landmine

In fav gifs

[tepid sorrel]

He said he's bad at the game goddamnit

[frozen kernel]

Is it really not possible to remove people from strike team

You really gotta create a new one 💀

[tepid sorrel]

we're keeping them banx

its fucking hilarious

[red swift]

no you can't kick the lvl 1000 chorus zealot with wound curios

[tepid sorrel]

shut up

[red swift]

he stays

[spare talon]

my party finder team i got to 40 with had a strat of pulling the captain to a small room and having the shield ogryn tonk him, the psyker control everytthing else, and the 2 others fucking the captain up

they called it

"diddy alley"

[frozen kernel]

Im convinced this vet is going to off himself mid game lol

[tepid sorrel]

IT'S JUST A BIT

[spare talon]

and someone would say it and it would be an effective callout

cuz we all knew what it meant

[tepid sorrel]

diddy alley.

[hearty nebula]

thats disgusting

[tepid sorrel]

i hate that, cole.

i hate that.

that is the most disgusting thing you've ever written to me

[spare talon]

i had no input in that

[red swift]

diddy alley?

[frozen kernel]

ngl he did better than like, most pub gamers

Only ONE death?

[spare talon]

the callout i contributed with was "gay baby jail" (putting a bubble on the burgle)

[tepid sorrel]

I TOLD YOU IT'S A BIT

[frozen kernel]

HE'S VERY COMMITED TO IT

[hearty nebula]

im going to make a character just called noob
and then plug in my controller and do the NPC act

[misty nova]

Shotgunners

[frozen kernel]

Im dying lol

[remote lark]

they don't stack additively they stack multiplicatively

So if you had two 20% tdr buffs

You'd take 20% reduced damage from 80%

You wouldn't take 40% reduced damage

Diminishing returns

But enduring faith is really strong and you should always take it if you have any form of crit

[limber sparrow]

yeah, i knew that, it was just the way that the message from the other day was stated made it seem like the bonus from it applied over how other effects applied which did not make sense

[remote lark]

no

[limber sparrow]

I could have just misinterpreted what they meant, but I wanted to verify still

[remote lark]

it could have been referring to damage reduction and toughness damage reduction being 2 different things

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-me-up-oomfie-oomfie-gridman-1993-kaiju-gif-3044118315406542502

[limber sparrow]

for the individual nodes then, are they considered at the same time or are they multiple 5% instances that are added multiplicativly as well?

[remote lark]

Individual nodes are actually different

They are a flat addition

[frozen kernel]

ur gonna se it again

[remote lark]

You just add them to whatever your multiplicative total from talent nodes is

[tepid sorrel]

i am literally watching it again

yes

[remote lark]

Ancient spotted

[limber sparrow]

okay, so i would infact be getting say 65% reduction between enduring faith and three toughness damage reduction nodes then

[remote lark]

Yes.

[limber sparrow]

are these applied differently or are they multaplicative as well?

[remote lark]

Plus benediction from your aura if you take that.

[remote lark]

@tepid sorrel is Dr applied additively to tdr

or multiplicatively

?

I forgor

[tepid sorrel]

i'll give you a proper answer in a bit

i dont rember

[remote lark]

dieeee

[tepid sorrel]

no

[limber sparrow]

benediction is also additive? or do you mean just account for the multiplier for that as well?

[remote lark]

ye just accounting for it

cause bene is what most builds take

[limber sparrow]

multiple instances of the same passive cannot stack though, right?

as in two zealots with benediction

[frosty herald]

No

Auras do not stack

[limber sparrow]

yeah, that is what I thought.

thank you

[heady rapids]

base + upgraded do tho

if you're interested innn

[tepid sorrel]

FUCK banx

[heady rapids]

double surv

[limber sparrow]

wouldnt that imply that you have a zealot that just did not take any points past the passive aura effect though...

[hearty nebula]

do not the banx

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[red swift]

The mod I have says this

[hearty nebula]

yapato already said that tho...

[red swift]

dude

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-me-up-oomfie-oomfie-gridman-1993-kaiju-gif-3044118315406542502

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-christmas-hd2-helldivers-2-cheer-this-guy-gif-4756755066549380819

[red swift]

so the nodes are additive with eachother but multiplicative in the overall

sum

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289540858479247382/1316033280138543134/caption.gif

[frosty herald]

I pre ordered pirate yakuza🤫

[red swift]

@limber sparrow

[hearty nebula]

it looked neato

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-pirate-in-hawaii-goro-majima-majima-goro-majima-crazy-eats-gif-14180418824691368681

[limber sparrow]

oh okay, still better than just multiple instances of a 5% modifier at least

[red swift]

I wouldnt worry about the numbers though just stack that shit up

W key heretics

[limber sparrow]

mostly just trying to determin what side of blazing piety I Want to use

[red swift]

I prefer right for BIG DAM

better uptime

10% crit aura for team is huge though honestly

[tepid sorrel]

fuck you banx

you left jay to die banx

[frozen kernel]

rip

[tepid sorrel]

LMFAO

[frozen kernel]

I thought he instadied on the barrel

1HP corrupted veteran

[tepid sorrel]

"just fucking do it already"

jesus christ

[frozen kernel]

Thought he could hang like me

Bro wishes he could edge like this

I just cant help myself with the nurgle slime

[vague depot]

Always locking tf in when you have max corruption

[frozen kernel]

srsly tho

Havent died once

It's an incentive

[tepid sorrel]

i just need 13 more assists for that helmet

but until then....

[frozen kernel]

This fireteam is a bunch of goobers

[tepid sorrel]

i fucking love them

[hearty nebula]

gooboids

very gnarpy...

[frozen kernel]

And he still stayed for the next game

I love Jay

[tepid sorrel]

SAME

[frozen kernel]

HE GOT ON MIC

I SPIT ON MY CHIN

[tepid sorrel]

U DIDNT HEAR HIM BEFORE?

[frozen kernel]

NO

[tepid sorrel]

HE SAID "JUST FUCKING DO IT" IN VC

[frozen kernel]

w

Im schizo I thought it was one of them

[hearty nebula]

LMFAO

[tepid sorrel]

holy shit banx

[vague depot]

Why is the vet losing their mind

[hearty nebula]

read his name

he is not very epic at the game but he is trying

we respect that

[spare talon]

i was playing with reginald like an hour and a half ago and basically every time he healed he got overheaded immediately after and his hp looked like this the until the next medstation where it happened again

it was so fucking funny
cuz he never actually died

[tepid sorrel]

hes been doing this ALL GAME

[hearty nebula]

fuck it

he ball

[muted pike]

Jesus Relic Sword has ridiculously high stagger

Its overhead outstaggers a crusher overhead SUBSTANTIALLY

[vague depot]

Isn’t that the YouTuber who releases weapon guides

[frosty herald]

Relic blade push staggers maulers

[muted pike]

Yeah, Relic Blade is like

Stupid stagger

[frosty herald]

Highest stagger with crusher

[frozen kernel]

It's funny because like

He's kept up the bit

But he's also not playing terribly now that we're a couple games deep

Oh fuck 2014'd

[tepid sorrel]

lol

[hearty nebula]

i thought it was 2025 now

did we time travel

[tepid sorrel]

He's gone.....

[frozen kernel]

rip

Now we have salt and t-fuck sake lol

[tepid sorrel]

LMAO

[spare talon]

i think so? he just does a mishmash of a lot of different darktide stuff

[tepid sorrel]

its keystoneless psyker time

[spare talon]

so you may or may not be thinking of the same person

[spare talon]

i hope you explode

from peril

in game and irl

[tepid sorrel]

i regularly run keystoneless psyker shut up cole

shut up cole just cause ur bad

just cause u rely on keystones cole

[frozen kernel]

I think they scried too close to the sun earlier

[tepid sorrel]

"wahhh i NEED disrupt destiny wahhh"

[vague depot]

Assault chainaxe has been some real good fun

[limber sparrow]

how much crit chance is realistically needed?

[muted pike]

The mk4 is 🤌

[vague depot]

The luckier you believe you are the lower the number becomes

Luck correlates with skill

[limber sparrow]

also does anyone else have issue triggering scourge because everything dies too quickly?

[frozen kernel]

So not being picky is what got us that last team

Im accepting all requests now

This guy is named after an ice cream truck

Havoc 20 too spooky for common randos

[vague depot]

Isn’t that still heresy difficulty

[tepid sorrel]

yes

[frozen kernel]

Oh here's an absolute gamer

Yes lol

[vague depot]

That’s wild

[tepid sorrel]

The number 20 strikes fear into the gamer

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/wee-woo-patrick-wee-gif-9654084

[tepid sorrel]

oh thats fine

[frozen kernel]

Honestly the only one that sucks

[tepid sorrel]

not pox gas

[frozen kernel]

Is blight spreads

Because I slide everywhere and get covered in Nickelodeon™ slime

[tepid sorrel]

blight spreads 21st pox gas

i rest my case

[red swift]

I invite high 20s and up to my 40s because I remember when I was high 20 and got invited to a high 30 and that jump felt good

But after the game I realize why they're not at 30

[potent gate]

Aw man. I'd love to do that.

[spare talon]

Imo 20%+ crit chance from extremely easy sources (piety, shred, riposte, inherent bonuses like knife and taxe) is enough for the crit talents

Since they're duration based, chances are you'll land another crit before they expire

And often scourge will come and go for up to 50% with my example percent, so crits would be happening quite often

[limber sparrow]

well I am having issue consistantly keeping scourge up, at least testing in meat grinder

[spare talon]

It's not a big deal if that happens against the weaker guys

It's more important and likely to happen on its own when you're fighting bigger enemies

[vague depot]

You don’t really need to crit against a poxwalker

You can build a couple stacks on like a gunner horde or something with more meat on it

[limber sparrow]

with big groups if im just dodging and using the light attacks it can come up a lot of the time, but when I swap to heavy attacks to kill of elites and speacialists I end up losing my scourge stacks pretty quickly

[vague depot]

What weapon is this

[limber sparrow]

knife

[vague depot]

I forfeit

[limber sparrow]

should I be using the light attacks more with it? I tend to just swap to heavy attacks against elites since it can one shot maulers, shotgunners, and pretty much all specialists most of the time

[spare talon]

Imo
Don't try to force scourge uptime
Not only is it a huge headache, but you'd have to sometimes play worse to do so

[limber sparrow]

I did not plan to force it, i am just considering the benifit if it is not triggering consistantly when i go to fight specialists and elites

[spare talon]

It's much better to just let it happen, cuz you'll still have that 2nd poxwalker that was clipped by a light attack crit and didnt die, so they're bleeding
You'll still have it work against reapers, crushers, bulwarks, ragers, and bosses

[tepid sorrel]

cole simply cant handle the keystoneless builds

[spare talon]

And it's also just kinda right there in terms of pathing

[vague depot]

I never really noticed or cared when my weapons hit a crit ngl

I just kept swinging

[spare talon]

Your other option is 2.5% more toughness on kill for that path and it just pales in comparison

[limber sparrow]

ragers are dying before I can get triggers off of them too

[spare talon]

But sometimes you'll still hit the body by accident cuz their flailing makes the a non Euclidean shape sometimes lmao

Which won't kill them, but now they're bleeding

[delicate shadow]

keystones? more like WEAKSTONES

[tepid sorrel]

Real

shrimply dont need it!

[vague depot]

Why does the game not pause/reset the countdown if everyone unreadies

[spare talon]

I did say bosses too, you're now reliably hitting knifes ungodly damaging crits 30% more on bosses, in addition to the fact that you'll likely cap them on bleed stacks with the talent alone, adding on a bit more damage on the side

[limber sparrow]

yeah, i do get the occasional trigger if the hit lands off target, but often time the stacks end up expiring pretty quickly because I can not get follow up hits

[delicate shadow]

don't need no MEEKSTONES

[spare talon]

I will not stand for this blatant slander

[vague depot]

I treat scourge more as a unexpected bonus than a requirement I need to fulfill

[limber sparrow]

which is why ii wondered if i should try more light attacks, but that seems to be les effective against a lot of enemies that I could normally just take down with a quick heavy attack

[tepid sorrel]

keystone seller

[tidal berry]

I actually failed a havoc 21 once

plasma vet slurps all 4 ammo crate ticks after a long hallway of me and only me clearing the massive gunner wave with a laspistol and two psykers ''suupoooorting''

[spare talon]

Yeah like jason said, it's definitely just better to just do whatever is best and suddenly "ooh I have scourge for a bit cool"

[vague depot]

He remembered my name

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

[spare talon]

But I do agree that it does fall off quite hard in terms of hordes and elites with single target weapons

But how strong of an effect it is when it matters still makes it incredibly worth taking regardless

[tidal berry]

the vet brainrot is spreading, good good

[tepid sorrel]

banx statpadding on heresy smh.

[tidal berry]

stat padding? U mean like scoreboard grift

ppl do that on heresy?

[tepid sorrel]

(havoc 20)

[tidal berry]

oh right

[frozen kernel]

u wot

[tidal berry]

I was fuming on day one when I found out half of havoc is baby mode

[frozen kernel]

im old pls translate

[tepid sorrel]

just standing there boltgunning the staircase for no reason instead of hitting the button

[frozen kernel]

heh

I was in the elevator

I just wanted to hear 15 stacks of IJ + FOTF boltgun

[tepid sorrel]

u were the last one in push the button loser

[vague depot]

What does that even mean

[frozen kernel]

DUGDUGDUGDUGDUGDUGDUG

Rat brain happy

Oh boy

We traded snipers for moebians

[limber sparrow]

yeah, i think its just going to be an inherent tradeoff if I use heavy attack with the knife since it only is hitting single target. Ill just have to accept the fact that I need my light attacks to trigger it

[frozen kernel]

This is ideal

[tepid sorrel]

its damnation now lets gooooo

lets gooooooo

[tidal berry]

what do you think it means

[tepid sorrel]

finally some good fucking gameplay (again)

[vague depot]

Idk how do you even pad your stats

[tidal berry]

here is how

you sit in a boring ass game for 50 minutes

post scoreboard because numba go up

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1276427243081433172/1318493620084539412/Darktide_replay_2024.10.05-04.51_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6776f59f&is=6775a41f&hm=7ed7461bd4a46c393a53e8a1b1e7b4d99da619915392cef7ddfcf858cdbb0800&

[tidal berry]

and expect respect or something Idfkinknow

[vague depot]

Oh so just stalling a mission to kill more?

[tidal berry]

some ppl do that I noticed

not that I mind stalling sometimes

but like y know when the mission is overr

and one goober is camping the door/ledge of infinite spawn next to valk for like, 2 minutes?

[vague depot]

I instantly understood what you meant lmao

Yea that sucks

[tidal berry]

I just think its funny

that the diffs you'll find sleep inducing is going to be like dopamine bomb for some people to be able to clear, with grossly overpowered weapons at that

[misty mason]

16 assists to go

[frozen kernel]

im sorry

[misty mason]

thank you

[tidal berry]

havoc tour guide

[tepid sorrel]

banx

was it YOU that actually killed me

[tidal berry]

honestly deserved for playing tide

[misty mason]

im still mad at how poorly designed it is

[tidal berry]

I deserve this punishment

[tepid sorrel]

because i dont know what actually did that

there was no noise i was just dead

[tidal berry]

I deserve to be the piss slave for the bubble smyker

I have made poor life decisions lmao

[misty mason]

They should have made a quickplay lobby for havocs under 25 and anyone participating gets progress

[tepid sorrel]

what the fuck

[misty mason]

Or something

[tidal berry]

bold of you to assume they have high winrate at 25

[misty mason]

Having matches where you dont lead be the same amount is just

such poor design

like unreal

[tidal berry]

What I love the most is just how many ppl ask for zealot piss build under havoc 30

[misty mason]

It actively discourages people to play

[tidal berry]

its rage inducing

just let me run chastise relic blade so I can baby your ass from the poxies you die to lmao

[spare talon]

i find it funny how last night when i was basically shitfaced i was still able to play psyker in havoc 25-29 and top damage

[misty mason]

Below 25 i run rashad usually

[spare talon]

top-damaging psyker gameplay right here

[tidal berry]

hardly need tryhard setups for below 30 but everyone demands those setups anyway and Idk why

maybe tanner video is the reason

or maybe tide community is just that stupid now

[tepid sorrel]

mechanical skill beats alcoholism every day

[red swift]

I legit got flamed by my team for not being a beacon/chorus grub

[lusty turtle]

Dude during testing my first 40 clear was actual nonesense

[red swift]

in havoc

[tidal berry]

but then again they always parroted whatever youtubers said, its nothing new

[tepid sorrel]

Always has been.

[lusty turtle]

There were no actual game callouts

[red swift]

They were already defeated by the games beginning and were expecting to lose

[frozen kernel]

@tepid sorrel

Sniper Ghost Warrior

[tepid sorrel]

i think most of our 40 clears in testing were cokmplete nonsense

[frozen kernel]

Dont mind the visible panic as I throwing knife two screbs point blank

[lusty turtle]

Real

[tepid sorrel]

it was literally

full VCs

overlapping conversations

and gameplay audio

that's it. thats how you beat havoc 40. just drown it with noise like a fucking noise marine

[tidal berry]

I think the biggest problem in 35-40 games is definitely callout and a lack of a ''lead'' when its time to funnel enemies to a choke or do objective in one of those large sections

[spare talon]

erm

[frozen kernel]

Dunno why that has no sound but

[spare talon]

actually

wait thats a comment link

[tepid sorrel]

Holy shit that's why it was silent

It wasn't meant for me

It was meant for electro

[spare talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1hofnuu/im_convinced_that_havoc_was_not_tested_thoroughly/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[tepid sorrel]

And then he got DCed

And it killed me holy fuck

Fuck you darktide

[violet lake]

New to Zealot, want tanky build guide, anyone have link? I love my chainsaw not evi, but open to any options other than CS swap..

[frozen kernel]

I NEED TO SCROLL IN CHAT

[red swift]

Ha that’s nice liberal, I see they got you workin the easy shift. Not me, I’m going in for my 36 hour shift at the ball crushing factory, where they crush my BALLS. That’s right, every day I slap these puppies up there on the hydraulic press and have more than 6 trillion newtons of force exerted directly onto my BALLS. I’m hoping for a new company record, 6.1 trillion newtons exerted directly on my BALLS. I’m hopin to win the company gift card. $25 at macys, so my girlfriend could get a nice pair of headphones, and not have to listen to me whine about my crushed balls. That I got from the ball crushing factory. I don’t even know what’s going on down there anymore, I'M SCARED TO LOOK

wonder who made that comment

[tepid sorrel]

Ha that’s nice liberal, I see they got you workin the easy shift. Not me, I’m going in for my 36 hour shift at the ball crushing factory, where they crush my BALLS. That’s right, every day I slap these puppies up there on the hydraulic press and have more than 6 trillion newtons of force exerted directly onto my BALLS. I’m hoping for a new company record, 6.1 trillion newtons exerted directly on my BALLS. I’m hopin to win the company gift card. $25 at macys, so my girlfriend could get a nice pair of headphones, and not have to listen to me whine about my crushed balls. That I got from the ball crushing factory. I don’t even know what’s going on down there anymore, I'M SCARED TO LOOK

[spare talon]

you couldnt possibly have done 40 during testing

see?

[tepid sorrel]

stupid malice playtesters

[frozen kernel]

@tepid sorrel

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141605476807745606/1253751386651361300/attachment-41.gif

[tepid sorrel]

stupid malice playtester lovese darktide

cant beat havoc 40,,,

[lusty turtle]

Excuse me while i play smoke stealth vet on havok 40

[tepid sorrel]

never playtested it we gave up

WYM STELATH,,, U HAVE TO RUN,... VOICE OF COMAND!!!

RUN THE META!!! RUJN THE META SKELE

RUN THE FUCKKING META

hehe devils claw recon lasgun stealth smoke go brrr

[frozen kernel]

Mmmm smoke nades

Save me from this gunner hell

[tepid sorrel]

turn him into a brick wall.

[spare talon]

i specifically refer to your/vamps build (they were pretty similar) when talking about the fact that havoc 40 is doable without meta, because it was first done without it in testing

[lusty turtle]

30 secon duration smokes feel so gooood on havok

[tidal berry]

this week my plan is exe helbore veteran

[limber sparrow]

is there something wrong with smoke grenades?

[tidal berry]

I'm still upset fatfish didnt do anything with hb3 bayo but I'm thinking I could make it work

[remote lark]

Hi

[tidal berry]

or maybe I'll cave in and run the fast hb

[remote lark]

Has someone helped you yet

[lusty turtle]

No, why?

[remote lark]

My discords bugging

[heady rapids]

they make trappers kiss you on the forehead

[lusty turtle]

People just think smokes are bad cause shooters arent a threat outside of havok

[remote lark]

hi skele

[tame sluice]

smoke grenade AKA psyker dome, but as a blitz and no toughness regen

[spare talon]

ive never used smoke grenades, is that why ive never been kissed by a woman?

[tame sluice]

also it stops dogs, and trappers

[tidal berry]

kinda like bubble its just non gameplay, tho bubble is a lot worse in that regard

[red swift]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da5eb01-a862-467b-9fc8-d806eb3039b7/relic-blade-bis-havoc here's my tanky one, it has relic blade though

[heady rapids]

it doesn't stop trappers, it does stop dogs tho

[tidal berry]

so I think they are ''bad'' because I find em cringe

[limber sparrow]

The reaction to mention of smoke made it seem like people do not like seeing them used. I do not see people run them often but I thought they worked fine

[heady rapids]

trappers will just beeline as close to your face as they can

[tidal berry]

not that it can't work, it could.

[remote lark]

never post again

[reef horizon]

Y’all what’s the dump stat on the blaze force greatsword?

[spare talon]

its more that in the majority of the game, the role they fill people dont really need

[remote lark]

Def or mobility on every weapon ever

[heady rapids]

On some dimly lit areas you can't see shit if there a smoke

[spare talon]

warp resist

warp resist

warp resist

[remote lark]

shut up cole

[uneven galleon]

Let's point and laugh at disdain user

[misty mason]

damage on flamer

[tame sluice]

the main problem with them is the vision blocking your teammates, garbage base duration, and EXTREMELY deceptive range

[spare talon]

its warp resist

[remote lark]

I meant melees

[reef horizon]

Awesome bet bet

[tame sluice]

smoke grenades have a 5.5 meter radius

[frozen kernel]

Fuggin ninja bulwark

[reef horizon]

I figured it was warp resistance lmao on that one

[tame sluice]

but the visible smoke cloud is nearly twice that size

[tidal berry]

would much rather see shredders, its impossible to mess it up with shredders.

[reef horizon]

Thanks guys🗿

[delicate shadow]

as it should

[spare talon]

it tends to be on all psyker stuff it comes on

[delicate shadow]

spread like a smonk nade

[lusty turtle]

Shield is a bit funky and needs some work, smoke tho are atleast interesting for a few things

They have stagger, suppression and interupt line of sight, and can be real good if positioned well

Unlike dome tho they NEED good positioning to not be ignored

[spare talon]

but they dont want stagger
they want damage and they want it NOW

[remote lark]

noobrey detroit...

[lusty turtle]

They dont kill things and arent the get out of jail free card of regenerating frag grenades

[copper hawk]

Gloop 4 brainz

[delicate shadow]

that one guy way back that really tried to sell me on smoke nades like 6 months ago must be eating good rn

assuming he's still playing

[remote lark]

LMAO

[spare talon]

i still havent been sold on smoke grenades outside of havoc

[delicate shadow]

(I hope he's still around, cool dude)

[spare talon]

and even in havoc id honestly just rather use shredders tbh

but thats just me

[delicate shadow]

why would we listen to a dirty playtester smh

[remote lark]

Does anybody have dorns video of him killing 700ish crushers in psych with just shredders

[remote lark]

LMFAO

[tidal berry]

The build path for right side has a lot to do with it aswell, I just find I can't afford grenade regen on the one DB build where I actually put smoke and infiltrate on

[spare talon]

i hope i dont get in trouble for that name lmao

[delicate shadow]

didn't even clear havoc 20...

[limber sparrow]

maybe, but I do value not getting gunned downed by a horde of ranged enemies. Though maybe psyker shield might help better with that.

[remote lark]

I've literally never played any other class than zealot still

[delicate shadow]

the best thing to do is embrace book

[spare talon]

i refuse

[tidal berry]

gunners are something you can learn to play around, plus the shredders will just kill them outright if they're packed.

[delicate shadow]

take that bible and thump it (zealots can't read)

[lusty turtle]

Shredders ARE way easier to use and honestly insane

[spare talon]

i refuse to play anything other than psyker in havoc currently

[tidal berry]

the shredders have a lot more utility besides just gunner counter

[lusty turtle]

But thats an infinite density effectiveness issue

[tidal berry]

they have absurdly good value

[misty mason]

What does this say? I cant read

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[remote lark]

Watched ainz play and it's kinda sold me tbh

Been thinking about it

[tidal berry]

no ammo woes

psyker is busted in there but I have self respect

https://tenor.com/view/astarion-standards-gif-6903914378583803537

[lusty turtle]

They both work, ive run smokes a lot, it helps smokes can light stagger ragers so i use them for dumb dives and revives

[remote lark]

They had 100% bubble uptime

[frozen kernel]

I need Palagi to wake up

[muted pike]

Yet randoms think cdr and psykinetics auras is not worth

[spare talon]

psyker is very flimsy in general so any mistake can be complete death
but in exchange they get absolutely absurd tools

[muted pike]

Hard disagree

[tidal berry]

I feel like they're not even that risky anymore

[muted pike]

They never were

[limber sparrow]

I though it depends on the build

[tidal berry]

with the last round of changes I see them get away with so much silly stuff

[spare talon]

they can get away with stuff due to the tools they have

[tidal berry]

I mean, duh

[spare talon]

making a mistake with those tools is what leads to instant death

[reef horizon]

Which blaze force sword is better, mk 6 or mk8?

[delicate shadow]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1GAgL5pRVmvw38/XTRhshTW888b?invite=cr-MSxYZEosMjA3NTgzNjU1LA they've never been flimsy

[reef horizon]

I’ve been using mk6

[muted pike]

Psykers have always had the best toughness regen

[tidal berry]

they're not made of paper anymore though

[red swift]

the one with the heavy stabby stab because it's sick

[muted pike]

... they never were

[spare talon]

but very few ways of mitigating it

tbf they did bump the base toughness up by 15

[heady rapids]

do psykers even get tdr

[muted pike]

They have dr packed into the tree

[heady rapids]

except in scriers

[red swift]

5% tdr nodes and sciers gaze 20%

[spare talon]

they have a whole 2 sources of it

[red swift]

bubble dissipation 50% but thats meh

[heady rapids]

not a lot of dr ngl

[spare talon]

im not talking about the minor nodes, like the main talents

[muted pike]

They get dr based on peril

[delicate shadow]

I mean psyker will eat more damage than other classes if clapped, sure, but like it's so easy to not get clapped

[tidal berry]

I'm ok with that

[red swift]

oh right the 33% on peril

[heady rapids]

oh yeah 33%

[spare talon]

1 of them is a normal talent and the other is exclusively with scriers

[zealous basin]

guys

[muted pike]

Which is stupid easy to maintain high peril

[red swift]

Tl;DR go scriers you cowards

[muted pike]

No

Their staffs and force weapons work at 100% peril

[lusty turtle]

Thrilling psyker gameplay

[red swift]

voidstrike staff scriers is a lot of fun actually

[muted pike]

You just stay at ~90-100% like all the time

[zealous basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398590278404931588/1084656593540485121/CF7DB695-9DF9-4A11-BC3D-05782BED5D2B-1.gif

[muted pike]

They have a hefty amount of dr and the best toughness gen in the game by a mile

[delicate shadow]

yea and this was in like march or smth last year but y'know, DS4 is fine on psyker (I know that shit was all soul fire or w/e it's called but still)

[spare talon]

but my point is, psykers best method of staying alive is sheer toughness gating with all of their sources
the moment youre in a position where you cant really generate any (like too busy with ragers or being melee hit stunned), you are extremely vulnerable to being obliterated

[muted pike]

They were never squishy

[red swift]

Another cool thing about Psyker is that they have no stamina regen delay, they start regening stamina instantly after spending it

[tidal berry]

no one who plays psyker knows how to melee anyway so its fine .d

[lusty turtle]

Surely

[tame sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169727494073618545/1301374672314699886/cat-why.gif

[tidal berry]

shush

immigrants do not count

[zealous basin]

zealot psykers are a classic cmon

[muted pike]

Their best tools are the ones that not only can be used under heavy pressure, but deal with the pressure itself

[zealous basin]

i havent played psyker since shredder/illi was the most op silly shit

[delicate shadow]

psyker and vet tourists invalidated by not dying in melee 24/7 😔

[muted pike]

Purge Staff is nuts

[spare talon]

this was before the toughness bump
i failed to dodge a single shotgunner shot, and the stagger allowed 2 poxwalkers to hit me which resulted in my death

[zealous basin]

lol mad cuz bad

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-shitpost-gif-24136076

[spare talon]

"i made a mistake"
"skill issue"
explode IMMEDIATELY

[heady rapids]

preach 🙏

[tidal berry]

If you're not getting your 🍑 slapped by chaff at least twice a game you're not a real psyker main, I'm sorry

[remote lark]

@spare talon question

[zealous basin]

answer

[zealous basin]

literally bad

[delicate shadow]

zealot and ogryn should be as durable as psyker is currently and vet and psyk should be turned into paper mache

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[remote lark]

zealots dominate melee combat and psykers kind of shred everything as long as they aren't swarmed

what role do u really see the other two classes in at really high level play other than dollar store psyker and damage sponge

[tame sluice]

only downside of that clip is the 2 poxwalkers not applying enough corruption for you to die instantly instead of just going down

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-embarrassed-hiding-gif-5094641

[zealous basin]

uh

[muted pike]

Purge staff is 1 example of being able to generate peril+toughness while simultaneously getting out of a high pressure situation with a weapon that has literally infinite cleave and ridiculous stagger

[zealous basin]

did ogryns become bad at some point

am i missing something

[tame sluice]

yeah

[zealous basin]

ratio

[limber sparrow]

what is wrong with ogryns?

[zealous basin]

ogryn players are weird anyways

[heady rapids]

not really

just unfun to play

[zealous basin]

wow.

[tame sluice]

most common vet playstyle would really be more dollar store book zealot anyways

[remote lark]

ogryn is a weird class that doesn't excel at anything

good players can play ogryn and it's good

it's not bad

other classes just better

[tidal berry]

it excels at enabling a lobotimized gameplay loop

[muted pike]

Venting Shriek is another example, stagger everything in front of you for a stupid distance... goes through walls... and applies enough stacks of Soulblaze to kill every poxwalker in the room while also venting half your peril

[remote lark]

u would know wouldn't u

[tidal berry]

walk forward, hold mouse 1, release mouse 1

I would know as I can play it after downing an entire wine bottle

[copper hawk]

[spare talon]

vet works perfectly fine in melee while also providing utility that works in basically every situation (grenade regen and how strong they are for vet, ammo aura, focus target, being able to be good at range and melee at the same time)
ogryn bullies the fuck out of almost anything, and can easily resolve positioning issues with the instant CC they have available to them

[delicate shadow]

Ogryn doesn't really require a "good" player to play it well, like melee ogryn may well be the most braindead thing on earth

[zealous basin]

im being attacked

actually im not i dont play ogryn

i just wanted to say it

[delicate shadow]

well DS4 zealot is about as braindead but y'know, no one's debating that it's a problem

[spare talon]

someone doesnt read the forums

[copper hawk]

U have 2 position and aim for heads

Little less brain dead

[muted pike]

Vet has stupidly high DR

[remote lark]

what would u say the best solo carry class is then

[zealous basin]

ur mum has stupidly high DR

[delicate shadow]

ok actual PEOPLE aren't

[spare talon]

zealot

[zealous basin]

which is good

[copper hawk]

Ogryn u special attack w pick and heavy

[tepid sorrel]

banx is making me work too hard for 3:46 am eastern standard time

[muted pike]

And shout is the best ult in the game

[remote lark]

that was fast

[tidal berry]

vets are excellent in melee and they can build in a way where they have amazing survivability, ranged, melee, AoE and CC all at once

[copper hawk]

Banx is a new ancientgrub ..

[zealous basin]

they can take care of ur cat too

:3

[muted pike]

Vets are insane tbqh

[zealous basin]

love vets

[copper hawk]

I must add his name 2 the liste..

[frozen kernel]

Dont make me look at the clock

[remote lark]

I couldn't stand leveling a vet I gave up halfway

[copper hawk]

[spare talon]

people do not realize that veterans are generalists, not the gun class

[remote lark]

I hate shooting....

[muted pike]

You dont have to shoot

[limber sparrow]

If only my friend could learn to make use of all that properly

[muted pike]

More than you would on a zealot

[spare talon]

i dont play gun vet lmao

[tidal berry]

Like yes your melee highs are not as high as zealot highs, but it really does not matter in the end vet is a very safe and versatile class

[spare talon]

i play melee vet

[delicate shadow]

2014 just started and you're already messing your sleep up smh

[frosty herald]

Melee vet is hella good

[remote lark]

budget zealot

[muted pike]

No

[spare talon]

"""budget"""

[frosty herald]

Also cole i hope you explode for not allowing relic blade on vet

[spare talon]

you did not read what talents they can get

[muted pike]

Its really not

[frozen kernel]

Im an overnighter

[tidal berry]

It took me time to get out of the delusion of ''the team is there to babysit me while I pewpew'' which was a mindset spread around at the time.

[remote lark]

Didn't u hear aquino

Zealots like me can't read

It's why I just hit everything

[delicate shadow]

melee vet has genuinely always been good

[remote lark]

Wtf?

[heady rapids]

if you ever took threat reduction pre p13 you're marked for life

[remote lark]

Give me these on zealot pls

[limber sparrow]

Yeah, I think he just hyperfocuses on the ranges aspect and panics when to much melee gets close to him

[frosty herald]

Relic blade would be hilarious on vet

[tidal berry]

I blame pre-patch 13 for that personally. The mindset of ''vets anti-specialist, horde is not your problem'' thing started then and got spoonfed all around.

[muted pike]

Yeah. Lots of misinfo at launch that stuck around for too long.

Psykers squishy, Vets are for shooters, Ogryn are the "tank class", etc...

[heady rapids]

that went on for like a week tops

[heady rapids]

and yet people would ignore 75% dr....

[remote lark]

Great cole now I'm debating leveling a vet

Thanks alot

[tidal berry]

It doesnt help that fatfish in their infinite wisdom made exe stan cancel on weapon swap so that also enables such mindset

[muted pike]

This is busted

[spare talon]

(stacks)

[remote lark]

is this tdr?

[spare talon]

yes

[tidal berry]

Its still a take that is parroted around today by some

[red swift]

I'm seeing a lot of vet builds not take confirmed kill anymore but instead go on the right side, was it nerfed or something?

[muted pike]

This node dumpsters all of zealot's toughness regen combined

[spare talon]

50% tdr for playing the game

[red swift]

Did I miss a ptch

patch

[delicate shadow]

vet's tree is actually dumb it's kinda funny

[muted pike]

Yeah, vets tree is insane

[heady rapids]

yeah there's also takes about wounds being useful and ancient being a federal agent

[spare talon]

it was but its still really good, but so is this, cuz it works on any kill

[muted pike]

Its very bottom loaded

[limber sparrow]

to be fair, you can do builds that allow you to just constantly have your gun out. I just shot stuff point blank and keep dodging

[red swift]

what was that before

[delicate shadow]

don't say that in zelchat

[spare talon]

@remote lark that 50% tdr for being above 75% toughness also applies when you have overtoughness

[delicate shadow]

you'll summon them

[heady rapids]

Fatshark please gib reload back

[tidal berry]

you mean to tell me martyrdom vet is bad? Its a very popular playstyle

[spare talon]

which is why VoC vets are everywhere

[mighty mesa]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ddeed25-e223-480a-8b4f-a38e05cfcf25/bread

[heady rapids]

you ever see a playstation vet that NEVER swaps from their ranged

[frosty herald]

@remote lark bottom

[remote lark]

how many times does this stack

[heady rapids]

and yet they somehow leveled all the way to 30

[remote lark]

I am NOT A BOTTOMMMMMMM

[frosty herald]

Leveling a character in darktide is miserable

[remote lark]

ok bruh

[heady rapids]

until I fucking disintegrate them with my mind beam

[frosty herald]

People are so washed at low levels

[spare talon]

this was me and frog accidentally duoing a ranged only mael

[delicate shadow]

I remember the good ol' days of people spamming recon las vet and doing zero damage but being convinced it slaps anyway

[spare talon]

and i was melee vet

[tidal berry]

I blame piss toughness. IW in isolation is not that problematic

[frosty herald]

(Still doesnt slap)

[remote lark]

m yveterans level four

[heady rapids]

I met a playstation vet w/ a recon not too long ago, fella was not missing a single headshot on maulers with his aim assist

[remote lark]

ugh...

i hate leveling

so much

[heady rapids]

(who's gonna tell him)

[mighty mesa]

that's exactly what a bottom would say

[remote lark]

STOPP

aquino ban them

ill cashapp u

right now

[delicate shadow]

overtoughness should not be the way it is

[spare talon]

i played melee vet for a while until they made iod not terrible anymore for weapons that werent knife

[delicate shadow]

it's such a stupid mechanic

[heady rapids]

queue twins => bell => kill yourself => repeat

[frosty herald]

You like being dominated dont you

[tidal berry]

had a friend that did run it, I didn't have the heart to tell him its bad though we had a chat at some point where he told me he knows its trash but used it for the vibe

[tepid sorrel]

agree

[delicate shadow]

I always really enjoyed shovel vet

[remote lark]

HELP ME

[spare talon]

watch me eat a sniper shot to the face immediately at the start but i take no damage cuz VOC FUCKING IS BROKEN

[remote lark]

wait.. what?

[delicate shadow]

see I can respect that

[heady rapids]

damnation twins in private

like uhh

[muted pike]

Vet tree has some stupid nodes for melee

[heady rapids]

a lot of xp in 2 mins

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/childe-genshin-impact-bottom-funny-genshin-tartaglia-gif-24589348

[heady rapids]

you skip to the end

and die on arena

[remote lark]

i know but

[heady rapids]

and it's like if you were tj fail a 90% completed damn mission

[remote lark]

i didn't thin kthat would give u xp

[heady rapids]

in 2 minutes

[remote lark]

whaaat

[heady rapids]

you could power level to 30 in maybe like half an hour? an hour?

[remote lark]

i can't queue twins until level 15 on damn

does someone wanna help me

.>

get me to 15

[spare talon]

oh also @remote lark the base +30% weakspot and +25% melee finesse damage talents make knife able to hit one shot breakpoints on some elites by default on vet that zealot needs conditional buffs to do

[muted pike]

Vet also gets a melee the zealot doesn't.

Wait until you try a Power Sword with power cycler and bromentum.

"Melee vet is budget zealot" is just wrong

[remote lark]

crying

[heady rapids]

I can hop on in like

[spare talon]

zealot can deal more damage overall

[heady rapids]

a minute...

[spare talon]

but like

[remote lark]

okieee

[heady rapids]

also good for leveling mastery

[remote lark]

is ther ea 'standard' vet build kind of like how zealot trees all look the same

or no

[spare talon]

wait thats not the right video

[heady rapids]

kind of

[tidal berry]

sort of but its cringe

[spare talon]

here it is

[heady rapids]

there's talents that you almost always take

all the coold mg ones

[spare talon]

but its not as rigid as zealots is

[tidal berry]

if you want a vet build with some nuance I like exe stan - WS a lot currently

[heady rapids]

iron will

cdr

[heady rapids]

oh yeah 100%

[spare talon]

cuz lots of different weapons like different things

[tidal berry]

^

[mighty mesa]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ddeef48-e922-4aee-b194-27cd5e606183/bread-2

[tidal berry]

you kinda choose your weapons and then do the build

[muted pike]

Vet tree is extremely bottom loaded.

You use as few points as possible to rush to the bottom then you pick up all the bottom nodes you can that mesh best with your build.

[frosty herald]

Drunk cole shenanigans

[spare talon]

im not drunk anymore yam

die

[remote lark]

can u mark those in a screenshot

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942

[remote lark]

yo wtf is this talent tree

[muted pike]

Bottom of vet tree is like... major node town

[remote lark]

it REALLY makes you commit to stuff down there

damn

[frosty herald]

Lumi discovers vet

[remote lark]

i've literally

never played anyt other class

on principle

zealot master race

[muted pike]

Extremely bottom loaded, no other class is like that

[frosty herald]

Ive played all classes in a rotation

[muted pike]

Shout is just better book

[frosty herald]

Mained psyker mained zealot mained vet mained ogryn went back to zealot psyker

[remote lark]

what was ur fav

[spare talon]

red is mandatory
blue is very very very good but not required

[frosty herald]

Psyker is hands down my favourite class to play

[spare talon]

most builds (from a zealot main perspective) take a majority of these blue nodes

[muted pike]

You still want to kill specials tho

[frosty herald]

Has a massive amount of skill expression and build variety

[spare talon]

@remote lark go to the skill tree either in game on GL and read what the ones i noted do

[heady rapids]

rember p13 vet..........

[mighty mesa]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ddef0d6-ad80-411f-839d-56df65a6d2bf/bread-3

[muted pike]

You didnt circle voice of command with duty and honor

[spare talon]

i will not do that

[remote lark]

ty

[muted pike]

Voice of Command is literally the best ult in the game

[spare talon]

voc is broken but im not marking it as mandatory

it is beyond overpowered

[muted pike]

Best by a mile

[spare talon]

im not going to railroad every build into that

[muted pike]

Its a better book but half the cooldown

[spare talon]

i know

youre only proving my point

it needs a stern talking to

[muted pike]

And unlike Zealot, you don't have to go out of your way on the tree to pick it up

[delicate shadow]

smh one trick pony and not even a top at it

[frosty herald]

Buff infiltrate

[heady rapids]

@remote lark how much you got from that

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-lol-gta-gta-san-andreas-running-gif-25040072

[spare talon]

infiltrate is fine

its already really good at what it does

and its LITERALLY stealth