#zealot-class

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copper hawk
drowsy steppe
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so many information that shouldve been left to other places..

spare talon
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ok goodbye

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copper hawk
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i love war thunder !

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I FUCKING LOVE SUBSTANCES

mighty root
jagged cradle
copper hawk
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cuz it is sloppe !

jagged cradle
copper hawk
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and sunk cost fallacy !

mighty root
jagged cradle
acoustic dune
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mighty root
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Sorry brokie

mighty root
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I’ll make it clap for a slime

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mighty root
acoustic dune
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@jagged cradle naval combat fuck ass

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and well tanks

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are just a sniper duel

hearty nebula
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do not what?

acoustic dune
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and air arcade just

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acoustic dune
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suck

jagged cradle
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@copper hawk which slop mode do you play the most

copper hawk
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did u rlly just download it

hearty nebula
copper hawk
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we like nevar play do NOT play war thunder

hearty nebula
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what are we not doing

jagged cradle
delicate shadow
copper hawk
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it is bad 4 ur soul

delicate shadow
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not doing!

hearty nebula
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doing not WHAT

jagged cradle
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I’m just trying it out !

hearty nebula
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i require context

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someone give me the context

jagged cradle
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Which mode do you play cica!

copper hawk
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u should just start w arcade

delicate shadow
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I gave you all the context

hearty nebula
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no u didnt

delicate shadow
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it's all the context I've got

hearty nebula
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stop being bumpy weird aquino

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was it the posting thigh highs?

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I just watched Gladiator 2

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Holy fucking slop that was bad

delicate shadow
hearty nebula
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oh

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lol

delicate shadow
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the world simply doesn't deserve that world of pain

hearty nebula
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cool i can post my cute socks then without repercussions

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lets go gang

delicate shadow
acoustic dune
jagged cradle
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Nvm I’m just gonna reinstall different slop

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Good slop

acoustic dune
mighty root
acoustic dune
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pre femboy stan

copper hawk
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i recognise those pills..

mighty root
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Only men I wanna see is @hearty nebula and @acoustic dune

hearty nebula
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im not men

acoustic dune
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i am a furry

copper hawk
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u appropriate my gif

hearty nebula
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yea

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cuz idk their name

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
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i stopped reading dungeon meshi after they got to that one weird place with the like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hearty nebula
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stuff

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i forgor specifics

mighty root
mighty root
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I just like cats

delicate shadow
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I forgor about it too, mostly because I've never read any of it

mighty root
mighty root
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Golden kamuy my beloved

acoustic dune
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the style wasnt my

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uh to say this

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kick

hearty nebula
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golden kamuy was mid

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read a FAT chunk of it and it goes down the shitter so fast lmao

acoustic dune
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but then again

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i read this

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and now

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i am plannning to read

acoustic dune
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a weird mango

copper hawk
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mango mango mango

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those who know

acoustic dune
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some bara who wanna human monster

mighty root
acoustic dune
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in highschool

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
acoustic dune
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pom pom that is

hearty nebula
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thats gross

copper hawk
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everyone hateth me..

hearty nebula
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get beated up noob

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:3

mighty root
hearty nebula
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cuz u didnt play toyz wit me

mighty root
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I don’t

acoustic dune
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shit its pun pun

void iron
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PLEASE tell me Mobility is the dump stat for these things crying

hearty nebula
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yes

mighty root
acoustic dune
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hit too hard

void iron
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I aint played in a min I forgor about pinned mb xd

hearty nebula
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noobhaviour....

void iron
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Worth

mighty root
misty nova
hearty nebula
misty nova
hearty nebula
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i understand

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we both know you can't read anyways

acoustic dune
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i am taking a year break before i continue reading it

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btw

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speaking of peak

void iron
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I love reading I'm just half alive

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
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this shit

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slap

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(i will not drink wine)

copper hawk
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u nevar toysed w ME !!

copper hawk
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growlz at u

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like a sigma

hearty nebula
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explodez u

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like epic

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FREAKOID SPOTTED

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I SAQW THAT

hearty nebula
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we love hildi

frozen kernel
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WHAT DID YOU CALL ME

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
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he's so epic

hearty nebula
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red spruce
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Do you peeps take cranial with wrath or rampage on relic sword?

hearty nebula
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read first pin

copper hawk
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fyre post somethin freaky ?

hearty nebula
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idk i didnt see it proper

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
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nvm i cant say that sentence

hearty nebula
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id deffo get introubl for it

acoustic dune
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you have no proof it was me

hearty nebula
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my proof is that i said so

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noob

mighty root
jagged cradle
mighty root
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I was driving

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hearty nebula
red spruce
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Is blood redemption any good? Debating it vs scourge currently

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Seems like it would work well with fury

remote lark
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u take blood redemption only when scourge can't be used

placid fiber
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blood redemption is pretty mid, but, it depends on the weapon and build

hearty nebula
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blood redemption only really worth wit crit weapons

remote lark
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if ur weapon can stack scourge u take both scourge and enduring faith

placid fiber
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if you have a thammer... you aren't going to be using a crit build(since it is the worst type of build to use with a thammer)

red spruce
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Cool thanks 🙂 Doing a relic blade build so I assume I take it

remote lark
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no

placid fiber
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if you have a knife... you're taking scourge lol

hearty nebula
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ya

remote lark
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no

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you can't stack scourge on relic blade

hearty nebula
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o

remote lark
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it's bps are too clean and it hits too slow

hearty nebula
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ur too slow..............

remote lark
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explode

placid fiber
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it's only bosses that you would stack scourge on right?

remote lark
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basically.

placid fiber
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everything else just dies too fast

red spruce
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That makes sense, thanks

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Happy to keep the extra toughness regen

placid fiber
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except maybe on high havoc

remote lark
placid fiber
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don't enemies get like double hp on high havoc?

remote lark
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Look at the build

hearty nebula
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like ur mom

remote lark
red spruce
remote lark
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I'll fix it later

red spruce
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Cool thanks, the guide is a great reference 😁

remote lark
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That reminds me

remote lark
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I need to test heatsync later

hearty nebula
remote lark
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I think its WAY better than ppl give it credit for cause noones tested how much downtime it removes

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but rampage and cranial are so strong

acoustic dune
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furry spotted

remote lark
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Hi

hearty nebula
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i played EZ2 well before pyro did his video

acoustic dune
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vore fetishist spotted

hearty nebula
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like

remote lark
hearty nebula
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literally on launch day

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i played it

remote lark
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I'll look later

acoustic dune
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darn furry

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
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mass histeria

spare dome
hearty nebula
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pyro missed most of the cool shit about the game anyways

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because he's braindead like that

hearty nebula
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instagib

placid fiber
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I love how they just immediately exploded

hearty nebula
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counter strike source

placid fiber
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Huh I actually had the 1st 2 words right

remote lark
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I know weak spot dmg is weak but 20% is a big number

hearty nebula
remote lark
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I really

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Really

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Want a mod that let's me test havoc bps in psych

placid fiber
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That would be nice

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and lets you throw stuff like pus hardened skin on enemies as well right?

remote lark
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Either that

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Or the exact modifiers h40 applies

placid fiber
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pus hardened double hp enemies lol

remote lark
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So I can math it out

placid fiber
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Welcome

delicate shadow
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the monkey's paw curls and you get a full testing suite but havoc BPs are now randomized upon entering a map

remote lark
placid fiber
copper hawk
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Lumii is a dorngrub..

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This explains..

remote lark
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no I am not

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I've probably argued more with dork than any of u nerds

drowsy steppe
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grub..

remote lark
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noobarkey..

hearty nebula
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why r he sit like dis

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stupid car

drowsy steppe
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???

remote lark
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catté

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
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i hope it explodes

copper hawk
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Gruuub..

hearty nebula
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noob.,...

remote lark
copper hawk
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Nop

remote lark
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silence smelly

copper hawk
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Ur my number 1 opp

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Next 2 wire

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Wire hateth me..

remote lark
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noobatroce

median steeple
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you have no grubs

remote lark
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ill never have grubs bc I'm way too mean to people

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💀

hearty nebula
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im meanerer...

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noob...

remote lark
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meanranth

drowsy steppe
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you need to be a cult leader..

copper hawk
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Pawtism

acoustic dune
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arlight tis almost 6 am

hearty nebula
drowsy steppe
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break people down..

acoustic dune
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i gotta fucking sleep

drowsy steppe
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rebuild them back..

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(dont do this btw)

copper hawk
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The ancientgrub playbook

limber sparrow
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what exactly is the issue with swift certainty that people do not like?

drowsy steppe
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jingle bells

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cica smells.

copper hawk
copper hawk
placid fiber
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for the 3rd line <.<

limber sparrow
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what about the 10% melee attack speed? I see that doesnt seem to help very much with heavy attacks much but I definitely have a noticeable difference with my quick attacks

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
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"free" 10% dps increase

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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though not exactly necessary on fast weapons, but it helps stuff like thunderhammer and relic blade alot

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zealot shat i have a question

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why do broken glass taste like blood? how do they make it do that

limber sparrow
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so not necessary for knife build

hearty nebula
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u'd think it tastes like glass

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not blood...

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
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there's no reason to not take it

remote lark
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there's nothing better you'd get for 1 point in 99% of builds

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unless u have a weird build

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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have u never touched glass?

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smh

drowsy steppe
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this begs the question

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why do you lick random glasses

hearty nebula
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yummy

copper hawk
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Noob

misty nova
hearty nebula
remote lark
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Aldrich from dark souls 3 is best waifu

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Change my mind

hearty nebula
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kills you with rock

spare talon
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you have the ability to do that when you still have stamina, this just lets it work when at 0 stamina

hearty nebula
spare talon
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the main thing is that
you can just slide
and that also works at 0 stamina

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and you dont have to be at a specific angle to do it

remote lark
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I wonder if it has any value in havoc to cheese gunner packs

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if u don't wanna run a high mobi weapon

spare talon
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so you literally have a better version of that sprint dodge already

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functionally swift certainty is just 5% sprint speed

spare talon
misty ravine
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Would be pretty lulzy if it allowed Stripped Down to function at any amount of Stamina

void iron
median steeple
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please don't praise that FRAUD

hearty nebula
limber sparrow
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i went ahead and took it off and just put a +15 toughness node instead

hearty nebula
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garbage roll

void iron
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I thought the carapace dmg would be more egregious

hearty nebula
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i mean

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that's whatev

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it works ig

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nobody run combat knife anyway cuz it boring

limber sparrow
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not sure where else I could put that point to make it useful

void iron
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I like it :(

remote lark
hearty nebula
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how dare u hav different opinion...

hearty nebula
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iirc

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it's like

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70 degree angle facing away from gunnrz

remote lark
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U shouldn't have an extra point

hearty nebula
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so u can basically run kind of horizontal to them n they cant do shit

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or tmh

remote lark
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It's camera angle

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They basically have to be off screen

hearty nebula
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ahh

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ok

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fartshart moment...

remote lark
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So u can face sideways and sprint diagonally at them

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Zig zag

limber sparrow
remote lark
runic grotto
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Where duelist

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Where holy revenant

remote lark
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First

hearty nebula
remote lark
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What weap9k is this for

remote lark
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And tell me why you want to use shroudfiels

hearty nebula
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if u say anything other than utility for rezzing people u are legally required to take shartfield off

remote lark
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hush

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dorns gone

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we can have fun

runic grotto
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Shroudfield is good

remote lark
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No it's not

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Go away

runic grotto
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Yes it is

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
void iron
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I like using Shroudfield

hearty nebula
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that's fine to like using it

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but it's still

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dogshit ngl

void iron
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Not if you're built sexy style

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Trust

runic grotto
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It's literally not dogshit

placid fiber
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It's more useful for solo clutches... but chastise is useful for preventing having to solo clutch

void iron
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:3

runic grotto
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Infiltrate for example is dogshit

remote lark
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Shroudfield is outshined both other options for zealot

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It's only utility is objective cheesing

misty ravine
runic grotto
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I'm not saying it's better then the other two options

void iron
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queue for qp
join at end of low int run
free shit
pogryn

placid fiber
runic grotto
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I never said that

remote lark
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It's not a terrible ability but it's often used by terrible players

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Bad rep

runic grotto
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I'm saying is that shroudfield is not bad

remote lark
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But there's never a reason to take it unless it's "for fun"

runic grotto
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Maybe

remote lark
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And there's no reason to optimize a for fun build

hearty nebula
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infiltrate is less ass ngl

remote lark
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@limber sparrow what melee do you use

placid fiber
remote lark
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And why did u want shroudfield

placid fiber
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iirc they had the knife, unless they changed melees

limber sparrow
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knife.

runic grotto
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If they had the knife, I run this

misty ravine
remote lark
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no sustained assault

placid fiber
hearty nebula
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but infiltrate still a bit less ass

remote lark
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other than that it's fine

runic grotto
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You could get rid of something like attack speed, 10% crits, toughness regen from shroudfield

remote lark
copper hawk
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Moldfield

remote lark
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If ur looking for a "meta" knife build then say so now

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cause itsnnot shroudfield

placid fiber
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it's chastise lol

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unless havoc

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then idk

remote lark
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havoc depends on team comp

hearty nebula
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havoc is just not using knife

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typically

placid fiber
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makes sense

copper hawk
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Use the super knife

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(Ds4)

remote lark
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high havoc mobil8ty users take standard knife build or ds/dclaw and abusing gold toughness to kill gunner pacjs

placid fiber
hearty nebula
placid fiber
hearty nebula
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this is SO EPIC!!!!

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Ive never blayes

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A soulz gam

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!

hearty nebula
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good

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they're boring

placid fiber
runic grotto
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I only ever played elden ring

copper hawk
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Intersmellar is now on Netflix ! Waow

hearty nebula
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elden ring was

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okay

copper hawk
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Those games r wayyyyy too hard for me lmfao

placid fiber
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All areas are now the Shrine of Amana or worse in Dark Souls 4!

runic grotto
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Elden ring was one of the best games I ever played

hearty nebula
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but i also just hate souls games

misty ravine
limber sparrow
hearty nebula
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by using shroudfield (stealth)

placid fiber
stoic thistle
limber sparrow
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mostly just killing elites, then I have the flamer if I need to help deal with a horde

copper hawk
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Very much so

remote lark
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on both counts

copper hawk
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It's almost a requirement in havoc

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Is a requirement honestly

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A single scab stalker at 29+ can 100 to 0 you

misty ravine
remote lark
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^

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Gold toughness can be kept up indefinitely with 2 good sources

hearty nebula
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easier & better

copper hawk
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Yep yep

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Stackin chorus w cdr and w one beacon one bene

placid fiber
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one of these 3 ways @limber sparrow

copper hawk
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U can safely mulch ur way forward

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It saves two spots for dps

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Usually a ds4 zeal

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Or a relic zeal

hearty nebula
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den hav bubble soyker...

copper hawk
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Bibble

stoic thistle
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I tried it once but felt that i was usless against maulers and crushers

copper hawk
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U need a teammate to help

stoic thistle
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Bibbke zeal

copper hawk
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Or use relic

hearty nebula
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it's not gonna save u from like a mid-swing typically

copper hawk
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Book zeal is incredibly good for havoc

hearty nebula
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because they come out pretty fast once they're done with the wind-up

copper hawk
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Each pulse stuns non parasite enenies

hearty nebula
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and fartshart is fartshart

copper hawk
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Which gives ur team ample time to manage lots of enemies

stoic thistle
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I wanted to run bolter eviserator chorus for true zealot experience

hearty nebula
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eviscerator is ass

copper hawk
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Do NOT run an evis

stoic thistle
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But u need an actual team for dis

hearty nebula
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do not run eviscerator in havoc

copper hawk
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Run a relic instead

stoic thistle
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Trash ik

hearty nebula
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it is probably the worst pick

stoic thistle
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I just use dueling

hearty nebula
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and just makes more work for your teammates

placid fiber
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Otherwise meta knife builds are more like these(1st 2 are for if you wanted twbs) @limber sparrow

hearty nebula
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ill do havoc once they change how the ranking works

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the weekly lockout thing is bumpy weird

remote lark
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twbs on knife is useless

placid fiber
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twbs is only for your own peace of mind on the knife

hearty nebula
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honestly i only take TWBS for the QoL it offers on doing objectives

placid fiber
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it doesn't do much of anything

hearty nebula
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not getting stunned out of scanners n shit is super nice

placid fiber
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besides lets you stay on auspex machines

misty glen
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Uhhh...can knives cleave?

remote lark
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u try to do objectives while surrounded with enemies j taking free damage for no reason

remote lark
placid fiber
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with uh

misty glen
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Dayum

remote lark
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poorly excluding with certain meme setups but yes

placid fiber
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the one thing

hearty nebula
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im epic like dat...

copper hawk
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Twbs is a good safety net

placid fiber
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What's the shotgun blessing called?

copper hawk
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I need it in havoc

remote lark
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floorranth

hearty nebula
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nuh uh

copper hawk
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I got tagged a few times with relic and got trapped cuz of it

hearty nebula
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cica can confirm... im goodish at game...

copper hawk
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No longer..

remote lark
copper hawk
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Yah Neiryn is vry good at the game

remote lark
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use mk10

copper hawk
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I do use mk10

remote lark
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how did u get stagert

copper hawk
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Poxwalker

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Or a bruiser

remote lark
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doom

placid fiber
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honestly this is my in general build for the ds or knife

misty glen
copper hawk
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It was just one both times lmfao

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Just fucking one

remote lark
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red stim gives rending

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armor pierce

copper hawk
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It gives i think 25% rending

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Or something stupid like that

remote lark
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and gives tk the dmg it needs to kill more than 1 or 2 enemies and keep going

hearty nebula
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comby stim my beloved

remote lark
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SO

hearty nebula
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its so epic...

remote lark
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Does anyone have the gif of the tk on that meme build killing like 13 ragers

hearty nebula
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nuh

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because we're not bumpy weird

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like u

misty glen
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Ahhh so that's what happened. Good to know!

remote lark
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die

hearty nebula
remote lark
placid fiber
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Same for if you have the shotgun blessing that makes crits have cleave

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when the shotgun is out

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I can't remember it right now, I'm getting sleepy

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manstopper

copper hawk
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Relic

placid fiber
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I had to look it up >.<'

stoic thistle
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Whats the advantage of relic over the dueling sword ?

remote lark
stoic thistle
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Spent all my coins for one and it was just meh

remote lark
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it's way stronger than anyone gives it credit for

placid fiber
remote lark
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the tdr it gives u on top of stalwart means u have to kill like 2-3 less enemies to get back to full after taking a hit

remote lark
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which is meta on mk10

placid fiber
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I mean... if they take enduring they might as well swap blood redemption to scourge tbh

remote lark
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like I said

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mk10 relic cant stack scourge

placid fiber
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I didn't disagree, I am just tired rn

remote lark
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implode

placid fiber
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I tried

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but I turned into a potato

limber sparrow
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I can't test the difference in damage to account for precognition and duelist in meat grinder, but I cannot one shot the maulers and ogryn if I swap over to fury of the faithful

placid fiber
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Well yeah you kill them in like... 1 second anyway

hearty nebula
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wats ur weapon

placid fiber
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push attack spamming

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knife

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n stuff

hearty nebula
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yea like... blessngs n perks

placid fiber
copper hawk
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I usually stack both

limber sparrow
copper hawk
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But i thibk i miss my sustained assault

placid fiber
limber sparrow
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flak damage and maniac damage

placid fiber
remote lark
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please dont

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
placid fiber
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that's with chastise(aka fury of the faithful)

frosty herald
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Gloop morning

hearty nebula
remote lark
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Precog uncanny with flak/uny if u use piety

Precog riposte with flak/cara or flak/uny if you use IJ

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Not maniac

placid fiber
limber sparrow
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well the entire reason I was running ruthless backstab before was because I could 1 shot crushers from the back with stealth with it, I swapped to uncanny strike because I can still get the one shot if i stack my penetratiion before activate stealth and going for them

placid fiber
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1 shotting crushers is a niche thing

remote lark
limber sparrow
#

and between pious cut throat and invocation of death I can get it up again in only a few seconds

remote lark
#

it has nothing to do with uncanny

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u just don't need riposte if u use piety

placid fiber
#

Ah

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I wasn't really sure

remote lark
#

You often won't get the cdr

limber sparrow
#

It seems to trigger fine for me

remote lark
#

🪄

placid fiber
#

With chastise you're pretty much always getting 100% uptime on the 20% attack speed

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with invocation

tepid sorrel
placid fiber
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it's like... 0.2 seconds or something

tepid sorrel
#

no

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it is one(1) second

limber sparrow
#

doesnt seem like 1 second. the only time it doesnt trigger for me is when i screw up the angle of my swing and accidently hit a shoulder or something like that

placid fiber
#

All I know is the meta knife build uses chastise. The knife was the zeaot's most powerful melee until the ds got added to their melee weapnos

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and yeah it doesn't 1 shot crushers... instead it literally melts them almost instantly anyway when done right

tepid sorrel
#

a second is simultaneously long enough to not be super spammable and thus give the feeling of "oh its being buggy where's my cdr" and short enough that it's not interfering with actual gameplay

placid fiber
#

@remote lark do you know what the average crusher ttk is for the knife when done properly? Idk it myself, which is why I am asking

limber sparrow
#

also as far as I can tell you can trigger the bonus effect for your first strike from stealth twice if you activate it immediatly as you swing

tepid sorrel
#

yes

placid fiber
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people have been using the knife for ages, it only got put to the side more when the ds was passed to other classes

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and when the relic blade was added

red swift
#

Meta build for knife is IoD plus IJ

placid fiber
#

with chastise right?

red swift
#

I’ve never had backstabber talent not work for me

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With stealth tbh

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Also it doesn’t need riposte because you have scourge + bleed

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Like lacerate xdddd

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It works perfectly fine on a meta chastise build

tepid sorrel
#

yeah i don't understand why you would "need" riposte on the knife
ever.

red swift
#

Just stealth is probably the better of the two

placid fiber
#

eh the main perk I see on stealth is the 1 stamina

tepid sorrel
#

zealot has a trillion other free crit chance options

red swift
#

Stealth because it’s op

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And shouldn’t be in tide games

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But it is

limber sparrow
#

so I was using it to bost my crit chance higher

placid fiber
red swift
#

stealth spam IoD

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If you don't like spend 5 whole points on IoD you can do something like this

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or a variation of this

hearty nebula
#

wtf are these scrunkly ahh buids

tepid sorrel
#

oh i hate that

red swift
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why you hate that

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no iod?

hearty nebula
#

hrud try to not give dogshit builds challenge (impossible)

red swift
#

Gabranth ur ignorant

plush estuary
#

Oooh

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thanks for the builds Hrup

red swift
#

no PROBLEM ainx

plush estuary
#

these are good bad builds for challenge runs

red swift
#

my GOAT

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eh?

plush estuary
#

if I want a extra challenge I run bad builds

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this is a good one

red swift
#

challenge runs with stealth are moot

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also no ones telling me how they're bad

hearty nebula
#

you

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are using

#

fucking loner

red swift
#

you like this more?

hearty nebula
#

which does not work for 90% of the god damn fucking game

red swift
#

Loner works fine... idk that kind of point that is

plush estuary
red swift
#

also I gave 2 builds

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one of which is benefiction

hearty nebula
#

period

red swift
#

HOW

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EXPLAIN

hearty nebula
#

BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME IT DOES ANYTHING IS IF YOU TAKE EWIW

red swift
#

just for you guy

hearty nebula
#

EVER

red swift
#

I said it can have variation

plush estuary
#

There is no meta build varitaion for zealot

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there is only 2 builds

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for most optimal

red swift
#

Meta build is take IoD

hearty nebula
#

loner does nothing unless you have this, and this perk is worthless

red swift
#

and spam your ability

hearty nebula
#

literally nothing

red swift
#

Loner makes it so disablers dont target you as much, that's the point of it

plush estuary
#

does it?

tepid sorrel
#

you people give me a headache

hearty nebula
#

no

red swift
#

and has synergy with toughness regen speed if you're so inclined

#

yes

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IT DOES

hearty nebula
#

no

plush estuary
#

I would need some good proof for that

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and no one here can be trusted

red swift
#

smh my head

hearty nebula
#

and even if it does do that, what's the point

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when you can just fucking nail them in the head with a tknife

red swift
#

that's the point

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Is to not get targeted as much

hearty nebula
#

just stop getting disabled

red swift
#

oh yeah mb

hearty nebula
#

and you're already running shartfield

tepid sorrel
#

it actually does do that btw

hearty nebula
#

which breaks aggro

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so it's just like

tepid sorrel
#

it just also doesn't for one specific circumstance iirc

hearty nebula
#

literally redundant

tepid sorrel
#

its been about a year since i looked at all the code for it

red swift
#

if you want proof go read what coherency fucking does for you

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oh my days

hearty nebula
#

jack shit

tepid sorrel
#

but all the special spawn shit does is check coherency and loner quite literally functions by not breaking coherency

hearty nebula
#

unless you're out of combat

tepid sorrel
#

stop arguing over stupid shit already

red swift
#

Guy asked for a stealth build and i gave it

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one of which has benediction just how you like it Gabranth

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so use that

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holy shite

tepid sorrel
#

when a player isn't in coherency, it sets them as a target for a special disabler spawn

#
            local possible_target = target_units[i]
            local coherency_extension = ScriptUnit.has_extension(possible_target, "coherency_system")
            local num_units_in_coherency = coherency_extension:num_units_in_coherency()

            if num_units_in_coherency == 1 then
                ALONE_TARGETS[#ALONE_TARGETS + 1] = possible_target
            end```
heady rapids
#

hi ancient

tepid sorrel
#

your num_units_in_coherency is never == 1 with loner

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hi bladewolf how are you darling

red swift
#

my blud Ancient hitting them with the facts and logic

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hey are you free tonight>

heady rapids
#

im good!!! excep that i ant ult for some reason

tepid sorrel
#

this means that a trapper or etc will never be specifically spawned for this specific reason

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when no players are alone, it will randomly pick between the 4 surviving players instead

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or however many are alive i should say

runic grotto
#

How would you build tHammer with immo nades?

tepid sorrel
red swift
copper hawk
tepid sorrel
#

there is another thing that isn't affected by coherency though, which i genuinely need to find the last time i was ranting about this

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and that's the funny speedrun prevention spawns

hearty nebula
red swift
#

Idk people say it doesn't work for some weird reason

hard nexus
#

fatshark code

runic grotto
#

No twbs

hard nexus
#

not working?

#

who couldve guessed

red swift
#

twbs not needed

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but helps

haughty haven
#

twbs is even less important these days

hearty nebula
#

but it's not necessary

hard nexus
red swift
#

uhm

#

take scourge and the backstab CDR talent

copper hawk
#

i think i miss my twbs

#

oh yah drop swift certainty

red swift
#

twbs still helps a lot with the toughness break stagger

haughty haven
#

don't let it get that far

red swift
#

bro

haughty haven
tepid sorrel
red swift
#

I t can

#

and will

#

oh

lunar fable
#

Um just don't get hit at all

hearty nebula
#

so it's kind of just like

hearty nebula
#

not worth taking loner

tepid sorrel
#

right let me find the rush prevention stuff

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cause that's a funny thing in and of itself

red swift
#

Loner has the Hunter's Aura and Ambuscade/TWBS node guy

misty ravine
#

TWBS helps not get slowed by fire, what else? Does it stop your hammer from getting switched off because a pox hound moved in your general vicinity

zinc talon
#

the best rush prevention hands down is holy relic usage and enjoyment

#

never go back to stupid castigate or whatever again

haughty haven
#

yeah i never use twbs or the almost dying one anymore and never miss them tbh

#

2nd wind

hearty nebula
#

twbs is just QoL at this point

copper hawk
#

byeah

hearty nebula
#

but i like it either way

copper hawk
#

i still take it in havoc

zinc talon
hearty nebula
#

literally nothing

zinc talon
#

like before careers even debuted I used to think of how cool those bonuses or bonuses like that would be to play with

#

but when the rubber meets the road

copper hawk
#

lmfao imagine they changed loner to be like camo

#

shooters target u less

zinc talon
#

you dun git lerndt and fuckin quickly too

hearty nebula
#

loner would be way cooler if it gave you like 25% less enemy aggro

hearty nebula
#

like that's infinitely already more useful

runic grotto
#

Why not drop duelist?

red swift
#

another non IoD stealth build for Gabranth

copper hawk
#

cuz duellist is just nuts

red swift
#

Also it wouldnt matter because you're spamming stealth anyway

runic grotto
#

Doesn't thammer has shit finesse?

haughty haven
#

it's crit and weakspot

hearty nebula
#

weakspot damage is massively good either way

zinc talon
#

yes but, bonk

#

and yes^

copper hawk
#

on the far left

#

middle tree

misty ravine
copper hawk
#

i angy..

zinc talon
#

this guy khornes

red swift
#

or do you mean duelist

hearty nebula
#

but

copper hawk
#

i mean the node into that tree

#

u see how the otehr two have like

#

an actual talent

hearty nebula
#

iunno invigorating revelation just does not seem that great to me

copper hawk
#

but that tree on the middle left has just

#

a node where a talent should be

red swift
#

you WILL take the 5% move speed and you WILL like it

#

I never noticed that tbh

#

what's up with that

#

zzzzzzzzz

hearty nebula
#

but i have no idea where i'd put that talent point

red swift
#

Retributor's Stance

potent gate
red swift
#

Undervalued by everyone tbh

#

It's huge survivability value

#

just hard to ever take

misty ravine
red swift
#

Taxed for bein a book bitch

#

sorry

copper hawk
#

zealot is forgotten

red swift
#

Zealot does need a talent revamp like psyker

frozen kernel
#

Why is it when I join havoc games

#

Everyone's at least semi decent

#

But when I finally go to host

#

I GET MALICE PLAYERS

hearty nebula
frozen kernel
misty ravine
hearty nebula
#

they have very good build diversity

#

unless you run smite in which case

#

uninstall asap

red swift
#

yeah because they got their revamp, and even then they're forced left side at the top for psykinetic's aura

tepid sorrel
copper hawk
#

Ppl called me crazy

tepid sorrel
#

targeted.......

misty ravine
copper hawk
#

Sayin zealot needs a rework

red swift
#

but still, Psyker has the most build variety and can choose between the 3 auras freely.

#

Zealot has toooooo many dead talents

#

it's insane

copper hawk
#

And that we're clearly neglected cuz of all the reworks other classes got

hearty nebula
#

but scriers gaze absolutely does not need psykinetic's aura

#

it has insanely low cd

red swift
#

Psykinetic's applies to your team, that's the point

#

You need it on every build

#

too too tooooo strong

hearty nebula
#

team already has cdr

#

they don't need my cdr

frozen kernel
#

Like this ogryn's bonehead implant was off

#

pls

hearty nebula
red swift
#

this isnt mine

#

ignore the cringe manga panel

hearty nebula
#

smite

frozen kernel
#

Flame Fatty

red swift
#

but this is a gunpsyker build

frozen kernel
#

Ignis Fatuus

hearty nebula
#

this is

#

a very bad gunpsyker build

red swift
#

lol how so

misty ravine
tepid sorrel
#

time to play some melee psyker

frozen kernel
#

Not toxic

hearty nebula
#

gimme a sec

tepid sorrel
#

what havoc are you strugglin through right now banx

frozen kernel
#

Start of mission he said his connection made him uncomfortable

hearty nebula
#

gotta open up game

frozen kernel
#

Been joining 20's having a grand ol time all day

hearty nebula
#

but the short of it is if you're running bfgs you don't need soulblaze & top left is kind of meh for gunker

frozen kernel
#

Finally go to host my own at a measly 17 and these people fall apart

tepid sorrel
#

i can play with you

hearty nebula
#

gunker gets more out of topright

frozen kernel
#

Sure, feel free to hop in

spare talon
#

gunpsyker without malefic......

hearty nebula
#

^

red swift
#

I invited a lvl 1029 zealot with the 1 million kills talent to my game

#

the shittiest player ive seen

#

ever

tepid sorrel
#

pmsl

red swift
#

the point of the build is to spread soulblaze, so wildfire is needed

frozen kernel
#

Level 1400+ ogryn was the highest player Ive ever seen, and simultaneously absolute dogshit

copper hawk
#

Who cursed me w tummy ache..

misty ravine
red swift
#

It gives damage and toughness

copper hawk
#

Im bein brave..

hearty nebula
red swift
#

arguably more benefit than malefic, especially with psykinetics aura applying to your team

hearty nebula
#

you already have 30 meters of infinite cleave on special attack

red swift
#

dude you're not spamming special attack lol

tepid sorrel
#

its darktide gaming

red swift
#

this is a havoc 40 perspective

copper hawk
spare talon
tepid sorrel
#

SHUT UP

tepid sorrel
#

Shut the FUCK up

hearty nebula
#

running gunker in havoc....

#

yuckers....

red swift
#

yup

#

Ancient, crank that soulja boy

frozen kernel
#

Anyone else wanna come?

#

@copper hawk pookie pls

#

it's tiding time

tepid sorrel
#

im going to ruin this man's gaming career

copper hawk
#

A new penance reward can be claimed
by visiting Hestia in the Mourningstar.

frozen kernel
#

I'll claim you

#

Get in here angrylightningnoises

tepid sorrel
#

A new Penance reward can be claimed by visiting Hestia in the Mourningstar.

copper hawk
frozen kernel
copper hawk
copper hawk
vague depot
#

I am about to devour this crate of peanut butter stuffed bite sized pretzels and I’ll either suffocate or the crate loses

hearty nebula
#

this is much more appropriate build for gunker though. you can drop warp unbound for kinetic deflection if you're struggling with ranged units (idk why you would be, considering you have assail and a literal gun at your disposal and aren't having to deal with projectile time like staffs as much)