zealot-class

[twin wagon]

because it works, ussually

[fiery plover]

One thing's for certain. If I lose my Havoc progress because Havoc mode is nonfunctioning for several weeks, I'll be mighty upset.

Don't wanna work my way up to 25 again..

So close to 25 now.

Don't wanna lose it.

[muted pike]

I can get used to that. And a crit on a crusher dome does serious work

The ttk vs maulers seems rough though

[twin wagon]

I'd stir away from Havok

It doesn't matter if your rank is 0, when FS is back and fixed their networking, you'll be able to hop to 40

Your displayed lvl is 40 anyway, after you've done it

[frosty herald]

Do a havoc 40 on another player's assignement on sunday and then your own rank is 40 on monday

[twin wagon]

But not now, chances are you'll all crash to desktop and be unable to reconnect

It's happened 3 times already for me

[fiery plover]

The second I get all three cosmetics, I won't touch Havoc ever again.

[twin wagon]

[lime rover]

Hello acolytes

[copper hawk]

Hello NOOBE

[lime rover]

[lime rover]

Don't call me a newbie, I've been in the emperors service for longer than I can remember

For example right now im having a panic attack for the emperor

[short grove]

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[lime rover]

Noo don't kill yourself, blow yourself up in a horde of heretics instead

[muted pike]

My god that took a while

Been spamming the chaxe mk4 and that thing rips everything to shreds.

Issue is if I compare it vs a large horde to the heavy sword in the same situation the hs would be substantially ahead the same way the chaxe is stupidly ahead vs carapace

[ancient spoke]

click on #zealot-class
greeted by this
every. single. time.

[grizzled aspen]

You need to, when you need to. Hope this helps.

[zinc talon]

People often ask me

Okri, I don't like you.

[twin wagon]

[floral jasper]

lmao

[twin wagon]

Riddgryn

[mighty mesa]

never be a part of the prawnblem, be the whole prawnblem

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-used-to-be-believable-baited-jebaited-bait-i-got-jebaited-gif-1296286127798996733

[mighty mesa]

found a nice sailor 😄

[ornate bone]

when did they release this green guy's set in the cosmetics store

[hearty nebula]

noob bhavior.....

[ornate bone]

are you just gonna let him talk to you like that?

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-noob-blocked-gif-26348686

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/projection-ace-gif-931818130249947651

Noobato with the predictable entrance

I will now dissapear again

[stone fern]

bignoob

[twin wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165395905252442122/1216394825381838930/1688918460909.gif

[mighty mesa]

in a few days ill have one of each weapon maxed out woooo

[hearty nebula]

ur noob too now :3c

[ornate bone]

I am NOT and i WILL defend my honour as a MAN

[hearty nebula]

ok noob

[ornate bone]

Address

Now

[hearty nebula]

address these nuts

noob...

[ornate bone]

U think ur funny

Well ur not funny

[hearty nebula]

i dont think

thats a rude assumption

[ornate bone]

Ur coward n stupid

[potent gate]

They're funny

Opinion rejected

[ornate bone]

Fight me irl, man vs man

[hearty nebula]

and also yeah that's just like not even an opinion

its just factually wrong

[mighty mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/shikanoko-gif-14922599622375275739

[ornate bone]

kisses biceps these babies will send you FLYING

[mighty mesa]

i know atleast 2 people who would pay extra for that

[river jackal]

Hello shouty people

If you could all please pray so we can fix the Havoc machine spirit

That would be blessed, thank you

[mighty mesa]

gmornin

[ornate bone]

Someone once offered me to kick them in the balls for 100€

[lean lark]

whats happening with havocs?

[mighty mesa]

I pray to the holy emperor everyday

[mighty mesa]

men are truly a weird bunch huh

[river jackal]

This is the kind of thing I come to Genererate Shouty Chat to see

One day you guys will actually talk about the class

[mighty mesa]

one day

not today though

[hearty nebula]

no thanks

havoc boring

💤

[river jackal]

I've learned not to open anything you send in a work environment

So I'm gonna let that sit

[hearty nebula]

its fine

[hearty nebula]

i watched it for u its safe

[spare talon]

Wtf
I'm sane and can be trusted
You can safely watch the videos I send

[river jackal]

Somehow I do not trust this statement

[hearty nebula]

yea cole is the most sane regular

im one of the like 3 unhinged ones

im just better than the other ones bc i dont lie about zealot

[river jackal]

Most sane Zealot enjoyer is still pretty schizophrenic tbh

[spare talon]

[hearty nebula]

hey

i said

most sane

not sane

[mighty mesa]

oooh on that topic

[river jackal]

Like compared to Ogryn you guys have to play like crack addled homeless people in the "who gets the heroin spoon first" tournament

[hearty nebula]

upid....

[mighty mesa]

i just started with schizo meds, because of my longer than average C||ircadian Rhythm||

apparently a low dose of it makes it easier to fall asleep and relax at the right times

[mighty mesa]

and im on 36mg concerta and 40mg vivanse
with the added bonus of 60mg of duloxetine and blood pressure meds so the other stuff dont kill me :3

and all that just because i may or may not have adhd, asbergers, CPTSD, persistent depressive disorder, hypersomnia and narcolepsy

[twin wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1320110131182305380/unknown-16.png?ex=67739c9d&is=67724b1d&hm=d296ca8d8b210fb94cbc0bef418887f28c1fdc78e18cf66b00732baa38c7a593&

this is how we look typing in zealot chat

[mighty mesa]

you're not wrong

[mighty mesa]

i'd love to see how i look from someone elses perspective when we argue in here about mundane things

[lime rover]

YES

You're right

I'm schizophrenic

No joke

I'm pretty sure I am

[mighty mesa]

naaaah you're just silly

[river jackal]

Overzealous, too

[mighty mesa]

true.. true

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-dbz-anime-fusion-reborn-dbz-movie-gif-9731808057094285463

[obsidian quail]

holy shit
psyker reference

sry

[lime rover]

You would be surprised how much I'm simular my behavior is to that of a psyker

Though I lack the cool stuff

I'm only a shaking desolved mess

[mighty mesa]

wait so you cant burn people with your mind?

[lime rover]

I'd like too but I'm just too silly instead

[mighty mesa]

damn

[ornate bone]

I may or may not have all those too and didnt get any medicine despite being delivered to a psychiatric hospital twice and ASKING FOR IT

I guess it's because i'm doing so well despite everything, but it's not fun

[lime rover]

I don't think I can concentrate enough to remember whatever is happening to me

I'm still trying to stop having a panic attack

[ornate bone]

Might be dissociation?

[lime rover]

I don't know Its probably just my panic attack

I constantly focus on the distinctive feeling of my heart beating heavily in my chest

So it's hard to concentrate

[ornate bone]

I've been known to dissociate to stop similar things. Just saying it might not be ADHD.

[mighty mesa]

yee, it took me from 17 to 27 to get diagnosed, and another 4 years to get all the meds

[lime rover]

I'm diagnosed with autism so it's impossible that adhd sneaked past it

[ornate bone]

Good!

[river jackal]

It just dawned on me that you said they offered it to you

But you also never said you didn't take it 💀

[lime rover]

96 bpm that's not good

[ornate bone]

😏

[river jackal]

Oh no

[lime rover]

Though I am probably going to be diagnosed with multiple new mental health issues soon, it depends how far therapy is going to help me-

Not a thing I'm proud of

Anyways!

[oak cargo]

Shadow heart when sunshine liver walks in

[hearty nebula]

i still gotta get diagnosed for whatever tf i got lmao

some friends say it add

some friends the tism

[oak cargo]

Both are on the neurodivergence spectrum

[hearty nebula]

i mean

yea

but specifics matter for some reason

[oak cargo]

Well different therapies and medications work better depending on your diagnosis

Plus you get different kinds of support

Depending on your area

But always better to get a proper diagnosis than rely on self diagnosing obvs

[drowsy steppe]

https://www.tumblr.com/blorbopolis/740635959160389633/accepting-feedback

[stone fern]

is there a human woman romance option at all in bg3

[oak cargo]

Well there’s shadowheart she’s the basic bitch choice

Karlach is the true sweetheart tho

Laezel if you like frog pussy

[drowsy steppe]

shadowheart is a half elf (half human and elf)

so technically she is

[stone fern]

i hate elves and i love humans

[drowsy steppe]

shes the greatest

[stone fern]

so shes a net zero for me

[stone fern]

no

firebitch seems the closest thing to human

[oak cargo]

It takes shadowheart 2 and a bit ACTS to become bearable

And even then she can’t hit a guiding bolt

There’s also Minthara but she’s evil

[potent gate]

It's not her fault the game uses a dog shit modifier for her

Karlach is always right choice though frfr

[oak cargo]

Looking like Joshua Graham after a hug with Karlach but it’s worth it

[drowsy steppe]

we look so cute together

[hearty nebula]

shart

[hearty nebula]

real

karlach our sweet cinnamon bun

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-karlach-bg3-baldur's-gate-3-get-real-karlach-gif-6054623747483386289

[drowsy steppe]

its the opposite for me

shes ok

I either recruit her or just hand her head over to the tyrs

[potent gate]

You gotta go

I sentence you to 1v1 an open hand monk

[drowsy steppe]

https://www.tumblr.com/cymk8/739941217288290304/her-hair-so-crispy-commission shes so cute

[drowsy steppe]

sure

[oak cargo]

Polymorphing Karlach into a sugar gum drop so she’s just as sweet on the outside as the inside

[drowsy steppe]

easy

[oak cargo]

[drowsy steppe]

shes spice

at least I think so

https://www.tumblr.com/feyspeaker/768344099251159040/oldschool-babey-prints-patreon this ones pretty cool. In oldschool bg style

[oak cargo]

Lae’zel making me act up around the frogs at the local pond

[drowsy steppe]

das cute

owo

[potent gate]

Sorry with their +90 on savings throws, they're fine. Now they've punched you to death because they ignore all resistances and can attack 400 times per turn

My friend ruined BG3 for me because of that

Dumbass Monk

Even running something like bards paladin doesn't even compare

Boss with mechanics? Punch it lmeow

[ornate bone]

LMFAO WHHHHAAAATTTTT

[drowsy steppe]

its quite easy outdamaging the monk in act 3 as a paladin xd

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Bhaalist_Armour this armor is dumb as hell

the best armor for melee/archer damage

[oak cargo]

Bro wanted time alone but was too scared to say 💀

[drowsy steppe]

I was averaging at 71 damage per attack lmao

[oak cargo]

Oh wait I misread it incredibly

If he was legit pretending to be other people that’s pretty incredible

[ornate bone]

i KNOW right

if i were her i would give honest applause and then enter a mental institution

along with him probably

[oak cargo]

Group therapy in the rubber room

[drowsy steppe]

the guy is a manipulative jackass lmao

[deep imp]

any zealot build to recommend?

[ornate bone]

wanted to leave it at just the funny title, but yeah, she added a screenshot too where he says the next morning after she found out that she doesn´t have any idea about healthy relationships and thrives on chaos and only takes this as an opportunity to make a huge thing out of nothing

like

at what point do you just say "yeah okay i think this manipulation thing isn´t working anymore" and just stop

[clever swan]

shadowheart best girl

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-professor-kruglov-gif-27699275

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-my-beloved-my-beloved-beloved-love-loop-gif-21565043

[ornate bone]

grrr you have the cool backpack thing

[clever swan]

do you guys pronounce beloved with the normal pronunciation of loved or the other pronunciation of loved

[ornate bone]

somebody bullied me and said it won´t come back in the store today.

i WANT it

[mighty mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/loona-loona-helluva-boss-helluva-boss-gif-9785606320337788384

[hushed knoll]

[oak cargo]

Probably been asked a billion times already but does shop reset today or next week ™️

[zinc talon]

not to sound snobby (I will anyway)

but which one

I can prolly ballpark the last time it was around and give you an idea

[mighty mesa]

https://youtu.be/mv89xz69KT8

[stone fern]

some of my inputs arent registering anyone else having problems?

[hushed knoll]

Hello Claddington Boots

[stone fern]

hi

[zinc talon]

when does it happen?

[hushed knoll]

Hello Ohio

Okri

[zinc talon]

hi fren

[stone fern]

idk middle of fights my dodges arent dodging

ult didnt go off

[zinc talon]

just the one thing? or you start losing other keys too

[drowsy steppe]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dd1bbaf-6da0-4e28-98e7-8c3c27b0426b/havoc-40-relic-fotf?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[zinc talon]

your movement starts getting slow and stopping?

[stone fern]

ult and dodge so far

[zinc talon]

wasd?

cuz my pc has the curse of the 13th gen intel upon it

and its family

[stone fern]

just sprint randomly stopping

🤔

[zinc talon]

when it gets really hairy sometimes, the thing starts throwing a piston and the system interrupts spike to keep it back on track where it was going

and as a result my keyboard gets knocked down the totem pole of importance to basically it dies or has a stroke until it's done dying or having a stroke

[deep imp]

thanks

[clever swan]

if you're ultra desperate to solve it you can try getting an app that shows the keys you're pressing, record that app + the game at the same time (nvidia share or something) and when you notice a missed input look at the recording. if the recording shows that the app didn't even see the key then your keyboard might be breaking @stone fern

[deep imp]

didn't find any guide on zealot so

[drowsy steppe]

a zealot guide is in WIP supposedly

[deep imp]

WIP?

[stone fern]

work in progress

[drowsy steppe]

just ask a question about what talent recommended or about a weapon here if you need

[deep imp]

oh

I was watching this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtNopQkz010

[drowsy steppe]

Mister E(strogen)

lets watch it 🙂

[deep imp]

but in gameslantern ppl don't take same blessing

so

I wonder which one is the best

[drowsy steppe]

flesh tearer riposte 😭

[drowsy steppe]

knife is uncanny and precog

or precog and riposte

[runic grotto]

Flesh Tearer Uncanny

[deep imp]

I don't rly understand the fleash tearer and riposte blessing

[hearty nebula]

im going to fucking kill him with a rock

[deep imp]

these one look's better

[zinc talon]

e

^my pc when every nanosecond counts

[deep imp]

there are lots of builds, but we don't really know if they're good or not

[runic grotto]

No Holy Revenant

[ornate bone]

happens on thursdays, to my knowledge

[runic grotto]

I simply use this

Loner aura sucks

[zinc talon]

yeah cause noone has a pair of stones big enough to play what they want instead of that stupid right side tree no deviation no options no thought

building talents around weapon variants, could you imagine

[ornate bone]

really. i don´t have much in the right side i don´t think

i will show!

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/shady-laugh-funny-lol-bye-gif-16600548

[ornate bone]

if i can figure out how to screenshot this

[zinc talon]

windows key + shift + s

[muted pike]

@copper hawk

What are the ideal blessings, perks, and dump stat for the Heavy Sword?

I see Defense is weighted significantly different for it than what I am used to

[zinc talon]

drag across the screen

[deep imp]

so, which build we should follow

[zinc talon]

then ctrl + v here

you should follow your heart

[stone fern]

"lets to the objective"
"stealthes in without the team"
"lets do our own thing"

[deep imp]

I'll just take my psyker then xd

[drowsy steppe]

zealot build

zealot build

[zinc talon]

quick straw pole, when was the last time yall went holy relic and/or corruption aura for team support

[stone fern]

when i played havoc

[zinc talon]

instead of removing your right eye to get another talent point for attack speed or finesse damage or whatever

[drowsy steppe]

yuh

this chat gets super overzealous with +10% attak speed sometimes

[zinc talon]

last time yall took stun grenades

[stone fern]

oh stuns very often

[drowsy steppe]

I sold company secrets to the highest bidder for +10% attack speed

[zinc talon]

or swapped out of a throwing knife build just to incendiary cuz you wanted those

[stone fern]

i like them on rashad marty

immo grenades never

[zinc talon]

last time you used a shock maul crusher or thunder hammer

[drowsy steppe]

I became a hired assassin killing VIPs around the world for +10% attack speed

[zinc talon]

don't answer me, answer yourself

[stone fern]

shock maul since release

[zinc talon]

(lol)

[stone fern]

thunderhammer like a week ago?

[zinc talon]

good man/woman/personthing

[drowsy steppe]

I changed my entire personality for +10% attack speed

you wanna know why

you wanna know why how I got these scars

[zinc talon]

all this to say, if you're using weapons that aren't and/or haven't been the meta for a while

and often enough

[deep imp]

what you think of this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luKNLX96_vI

[drowsy steppe]

its for slight (supposedly) dps boost

[zinc talon]

you're not building your talents around a fkn third light breakpoint on triple green naked ragers

talents support you not the thing in your hands

[drowsy steppe]

I became a heretic for +10% attack speed

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-angry-gif-13063135

[drowsy steppe]

I sold my body for +10% attack speed

[zinc talon]

after getting off that soapbox

[stone fern]

horrible
stamina weakspot is awful on thammer

[zinc talon]

I can't imagine a situation where I'd willingly swap off one or both 5% movement speeds

so I'm bound to those myself

[muted pike]

Oh god, my tree is similar but has quite a few deviations

[zinc talon]

and they get wiggldy to snag both

[drowsy steppe]

yea

zealot no build variety

[deep imp]

I'm lost

[drowsy steppe]

@delicate shadow hey Incan check this out

[hearty nebula]

never because im not a fucking baby sitter

[stone fern]

actually that build is so shit im writing that person an email

[muted pike]

I dont grab unholy fervor/holy revenant and I also go for Blazing Piety

[zinc talon]

I'm prolly biased (I am not) coming from ogryn cuz it's been vaguely split into thirds on playerbase tree outfitting

in terms of the overall weighting someone puts in each tree

[hearty nebula]

ogryns talents make me retch

i really hope they rework him soon

[zinc talon]

folks just play the career they want and the career is good enough to reward em for it

[drowsy steppe]

same

[hearty nebula]

cause having like 60% of the talent tree trying to beeline you into just spamming fucking heavy attacks is like

dogshit ngl

not because it's actually bad to do

but because it's fucking boring

[muted pike]

Wait

[zinc talon]

so coming in here and seeing all the grabassin and baboonery over a claw sword or knife variant and why made me think

[thorn sable]

In fairness a lot of people literally only spam lights

[deep imp]

well, don't know which build to pick, I'll just follow gameslantern

[hearty nebula]

oh we dont care about claw sword or using knife

like

[muted pike]

Wait wait wait. Woag

[hearty nebula]

they're fine weapons and u can pull weight with em

[thorn sable]

So forcing them to only heavy spam is 100% change 😂

[zinc talon]

I can getcha mine but it's an odd fish

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-please-stand-by-old-tv-gif-15816265

[ornate bone]

this is my offensive build, is this not good or what

apparently not meta?

[hearty nebula]

the issue is when some dipshit youtuber or some fuckin noob goes on gameslantern and basically just gets spoonfed some dogshit build

[drowsy steppe]

follow this

[hearty nebula]

no

it's not meta

[drowsy steppe]

but change it to piety over IJ

[ornate bone]

tysm!!!

[deep imp]

when you don't know anything about building, you have to

[hearty nebula]

and also lack critical information

we don't know what weapons you're using

because tree changes depending on which weapon if you're doing meta

[drowsy steppe]

this is the most generalist build and works with every weapon btw

[stone fern]

this is the correct version of that build

[hearty nebula]

^ yeah it works with every weapon

[deep imp]

that's why I like to play Ogryn & Psyker, you have decent guide on discord, like: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783400580432265267/1310227816817758208/togif.gif

[hearty nebula]

psyker guide is the only one i do not actively detest

[ornate bone]

i use a lot of different ones, and i use a defensive talent build with chorus too. i like to use these babies with my offensive build.

[drowsy steppe]

take second wind

[stone fern]

the video had weakspot stamina on a thammer

[hearty nebula]

ogryn guide isn't like bad but it's dogshit layout makes it annoying to read

[fleet zealot]

Why so scared of throwing knives

[hearty nebula]

yeah just do standard IJ build

and use throwing knife

[muted pike]

There is a huge difference between "boring but very effective" like psyker just spamming purge staff at hordes, pushing stuff away with l1 when necessary, and using brain burst in between to keep busy/help vs gunners/kill specials

And ogryn being boring and less effective.

People can get over boring if they see results is my point

[ornate bone]

but then i won´t have the other talents no more 😦

[drowsy steppe]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db9a1d8-bcd9-472e-bb13-4cb2ad5ad7e2/havoc-chorus-relic-sword-if-your-team-isnt-killing-distant-gunners-and-specials-they-suck heres my take on a chorus build

[fleet zealot]

Also blood redemption is completely unneeded

[drowsy steppe]

you dont really need to use flamer btw 🙂

[fleet zealot]

Or whatever is melee kills give 50% more toughness

[ornate bone]

is this why i´ve been losing havoc? i don´t know if i´m gonna have as much fun with another build. i made these because they were so much fun to play with.

[hearty nebula]

such a shame that royale with cheese retired

[deep imp]

'for me, this is one of the negative points of the game, when you don't really know anything about building, you're lost

[hearty nebula]

they would be the saving grace of guides

[fleet zealot]

Yea you are taxing yourself out

[ornate bone]

really?

[muted pike]

How do yall build the Heavy Sword?

[hearty nebula]

yuckers

[drowsy steppe]

deathblow + headtaker for blessings

flak and maniac/elites for perks

[deep imp]

wich weapons

[ornate bone]

just with blood redemption or what else taxes me

[fleet zealot]

You have extra toughness on heavy attack kill, toughness on dodge, and ability every 10 seconds

[muted pike]

What dump stat?

[hearty nebula]

holy shit lmfao

[fleet zealot]

Why do you need the extra 3-4% on melee kill lol

[drowsy steppe]

does it have defences or mobility I dont remember

[drowsy steppe]

dump that

[muted pike]

Wouldn't 60% defenses leave you at just 4 dodges? It goes 3/4/5

[ornate bone]

yeah. awesome right 😊

[fleet zealot]

Your entire topside is over taxed

[fleet zealot]

You have to commit

[drowsy steppe]

check the dodge cap first

[zinc talon]

there's it broken down by ultimate, blitz, passives, and pips

[ornate bone]

super tough to kill! slam slam!

[fleet zealot]

No cause havoc is where golden toughness is supreme

[drowsy steppe]

its been awhile since I use heavy sword

[fleet zealot]

Completely overkill

Does nothing

[drowsy steppe]

if its missing 1 dodge at 60%

[fleet zealot]

If there was a stat showing toughness gain wasted

[drowsy steppe]

you can try to aim for a stat spread thats 76% across the board, or near it

[fleet zealot]

You’d well above everyone else

[fleet zealot]

No weapon misses a dodge at 60

[muted pike]

Normally you get to 50% and youre capped, but with Heavy Sword you are still sitting at 4 dodges at that point when cap is 5

[fleet zealot]

All the +1 dodges are above 80 and unreachable

[drowsy steppe]

yuh I just dont remember whats the max effective dodge of heavy sword

[stone fern]

i actually wrote him an email

thats how bad that was

[zinc talon]

eviscerator, crusher, shockmaul/assault chainsword/axe when I feel like it; bolter, flamer, bolt pistol, laspistol, braced/infantry autogun when I feel like it

[fleet zealot]

No

You are misinterpreting

[muted pike]

Ahh I see

[zinc talon]

a majority of the time it's crusher and bolter/flamer

[fleet zealot]

There is one more dodge between 80 and 100 we can’t get

[muted pike]

So dump defense, got it

[zinc talon]

but bolt pistol is just so much fun it's about all I'm using rn

[lean lark]

mk6 maniac elites deathblow headtaker, defence dump

[drowsy steppe]

between bolt pistol and flamer is all Ive been using really

[ornate bone]

ok then, may i present to you my havoc build then that i´ve been using. crits and chorus to keep getting the ability back. pretty smart right 😊

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-clapping-gif-13125976775467428927

[fleet zealot]

Not really

Im too busy moving today tho

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/your-opinion-gif-24573780

[drowsy steppe]

keep in mind we give advice on minmax perspective here

so when we say BAD

[ornate bone]

i think you´re just jealous

[hearty nebula]

we wish it was an opinion

[drowsy steppe]

its because of that perspective

[hearty nebula]

trust

[zinc talon]

it's relative to their playstyle/niche

[ornate bone]

i don´t know man, i´ve been losing pretty hard at havoc

[zinc talon]

I built my setup as a Total Team Support Designated Team Mom role

[hard nexus]

nah, it’s a really mid build, should really at the least drop anoint in blood and the final subnode for blazing piety for second wind

[fleet zealot]

I wish

[drowsy steppe]

if you miss it

[ornate bone]

seems like an easy wish to fulfill

[zinc talon]

relic for free revives and to push pause on one fight in every room, stun grenades and ally revive speed for even more push pause and free rescues, corruption aura cuz Team Mom gotta kiss booboos and keep everyone from throwin tantrums

[fleet zealot]

Immo nades are the best nade in havocs

They get so much value

[zinc talon]

crusher because it can kill anything up to field bosses before it gets back onto its feet

[drowsy steppe]

I played havoc with tknives on my fotf build

[zinc talon]

and bolter/pistol for long range special delete

or flamer for when it's around the 4th and BBQ is on my mmind

[fleet zealot]

I hate tknives in havoc

But im biased

[ornate bone]

i remember many months back when i was defending my relic build and everyone was like nah that´s so stupid. now relic is president and finally everyone sees.

[drowsy steppe]

I remember

[hard nexus]

it was stupid then, now there’s reason to bring it

[fleet zealot]

Yea and your relic build is still offmeta

[ornate bone]

UwU

[drowsy steppe]

why relic was looked down on was because

auric was already easy without it

buuuttt

[zinc talon]

yep a well timed relic is just

[ornate bone]

my build will be meta one day. first relic, then the rest. you will see. you will see.

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-uno-uno-reverse-card-uno-cards-uno-reverse-card-meme-gif-12483429616104088768

[muted pike]

Why use Heavy Sword over Rashad? Any point?

Deathblow + Headtaker and Bromentum + Headtaker are a wash, Rashad dumpsters hordes and doesn't struggle with carapace as much as Heavy Sword

[zinc talon]

stopthat

[drowsy steppe]

havoc showed how actually powerful it was

[drowsy steppe]

no lie

at least from my perspective

auric is baby mode now xd

maybe I am that 1%

[hard nexus]

heavy sword clears hordes significantly faster than rashad, and hsword is just fun

[zinc talon]

are you built similiarly to mine? new builds are always intradesting

[hard nexus]

yeah agreed

[drowsy steppe]

weapon variety

I use claw when I want to crit cdr abuse on steroids

[ornate bone]

it is, but if the game is now like "use this build or die", which is obviously true because i HAVE been losing a lot, then i don´t think i wanna play anymore. if i can´t use the stuff i like

[hard nexus]

then stick to aurics

[ornate bone]

no

feels silly now

[hard nexus]

lmfao

can’t help you there then

[ornate bone]

i didn´t ask for help lol

there are many games i have

[ornate bone]

maaany

[drowsy steppe]

I use fotf on havoc 40, granted I was also hyperfixated on this game enough to be good on it when not using the easiest option to win

[hard nexus]

evil

bad

[drowsy steppe]

fotf with tknives

[muted pike]

Basically hsword dumpsters mixed hordes better than rashad and dueling sword... and Rashad is the middle man between the 2? Better horde clear than dsword, better vs armor than hsword

[drowsy steppe]

relic and bolt pistol

[muted pike]

Do I understand that correctly?

[drowsy steppe]

until death and holy rev also helps

[hard nexus]

rashad does everything very well, it’s why it’s just OP

[ornate bone]

what´s that? i don´t know all your funny abbreviations, magic men

[muted pike]

Don't get me wrong, I love Rashad

[drowsy steppe]

fury of the faithful

the dash ult

[muted pike]

Just exploring other options

[zinc talon]

frryftythfthtflll

[muted pike]

I love the mk4 chaxe

[drowsy steppe]

dude

can we bring back the old name for dash

Chastise sounds better

than FUCKING FOTF

[muted pike]

I prefer mk4 chaxe over the rashad

[zinc talon]

charge is also perfectly acceptible

[hard nexus]

i still use it tbh

[ornate bone]

oh it used to be called chastise the wicked, i know what you mean then.

[zinc talon]

as that overlaps with the ogryn ability so monke neuron activate

no need to explain what a chastize is

[ornate bone]

yeah chastise the wicked is such a cool phrase

fotf

[zinc talon]

sorry

gassy

[muted pike]

My only issue with hsword is that carapace exists

[deep imp]

what you think of this?

[zinc talon]

I think you'll be okay with just one wound curio

that gives you three

[hard nexus]

#zealot-class message

[zinc talon]

which in the moment, is a freebie get out of jail card for getting combo'd and skullfucked

which is wont to occur

[hard nexus]

if u have any hsword questions ask him

[zinc talon]

when you only have two wounds, your backbrain is in a total feast or famine mode and it can affect your calculus down to the very buttons you push

yeah overdramatic shut up

[ornate bone]

lol

[zinc talon]

the third wound lets your danger goblin ease into getting closer and closer to small scared animal mode

[ornate bone]

you seem to be really getting into it when you play

i wish

[zinc talon]

as there's a confused screaming mode right before that

all in all I think it makes for a more levelheaded player, certainly helps me

[hard nexus]

i think

dodge more

also

your crusher is really badly build

[zinc talon]

yup just don't get hit

it's one thing people make it so hard

[thorn sable]

This is what I run on h40 with zealot https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9dd95542-2a87-4307-9093-49f14d29e909

I may have mixed up some weapon blessings

[ornate bone]

shoot or whack at enemies until they die

[hard nexus]

no scourge?

on a crit build??

[hard nexus]

havoc 40 relic blade can take wrath as well

instead of rampage

as the cleave is very nice to have

if not needed

[thorn sable]

Whoops mixed that up, yes scourge

I can’t remember if I go wrath or rampage

[hard nexus]

probably wrath

no until death kinda sucks

but i get it

hrm

[deep imp]

this is weird to put 60% stats on damage no?

[potent gate]

Rampage is incredibly dogshit on the relic blade in havoc imo

[hard nexus]

yes

[thorn sable]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9dd95542-2a87-4307-9093-49f14d29e909 fixed

[potent gate]

No until death is chad movement

Useless perk - just don't die

[deep imp]

I'm done with these internet build lol

[thorn sable]

I think it’s totally unnecessary

[hard nexus]

majority of gameslanterns builds suck

[deep imp]

I'm gonna give up playing zealot at this point lol

[hard nexus]

when one crusher overhead straight up kills you, no down, in havoc 40

i think it’s not

everyone slips up once or twice

[thorn sable]

Yeah it happens

But I have learned to play very careful around crusher

[ornate bone]

wanna come play GTFO with me 🙂

[thorn sable]

And massive boost to book uptime means another person can go full damage

Which is imo way more useful than me having the ability to play like a mong 😂

[ornate bone]

oh my god everyone finally sees

i used to say these things about relic before it was cool

this is such an elevating feeling right now

[thorn sable]

I’ve been doing it this way since like day 4 of havoc existing 😂

[ornate bone]

i was RIGHT

[potent gate]

"before" you didn't need book uptime though

[ornate bone]

i was RIGHT

💯

[potent gate]

Cope

[ornate bone]

you wish you could be as wise as me ☺️

i am always right, you see

no matter what i say

[thorn sable]

Anyway zealot is so easy to play compared to meleeker that i dont feel like i need to invest heavily in survivability

[ornate bone]

i will now go away and go be right somewhere else

hmm maybe i should play the lottery....

[potent gate]

Maybe you'll finally win at that

[deep imp]

even if I upgrade the weapon, the "Light attack" will stay at 217?

[ornate bone]

it´s funny how genuinely upset you guys are at me lol

see you again soon!

[potent gate]

It might hit 218

Don't leave us in suspense

[drowsy steppe]

just ask here

[muted pike]

Feel the same way after maining psyker for ages. Zealot as a baseline just has so much more raw defensive stats.

That said, psyker toughness regen is insane

[zinc talon]

seems to do just fine for me

[muted pike]

Psyker toughness regen is for sure the best in the game

[zinc talon]

when it can do 80% of a bulwark's health in a single swing and the same to a crusher with a lil okiedoke followup attack added on

and oneshot everything else all the way down

I'm content to let nature do be like that

it is reliant on you sustaining around a 60% weakspot hit rate through the entire mission

so gotta get that in your muscle memory

[hearty nebula]

that's

ass

[zinc talon]

once you get to where you're pulling a reliable 60+ weakspot hit rate with the boost to crit rate a generic critmaxing build will give you

the law of numbers starts getting really fucky with the two together

cuz it means swing on swing through the mission, every second swing you connect with, is a weak spot crit hit

[thorn sable]

Any obvious footguns in this penance hunter build (ignore weapons and curios) https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9dd95cff-88c3-42dd-8c7a-9e19e792fc1c

[hard nexus]

i have like 60-70% weakspot hit rate

[zinc talon]

good

that's where the skullcrusher's damage uptiers really shine

[muted pike]

Bruh if I could show you a vid of me ripping through everything with a mk4 chain axe

[zinc talon]

because you're also pairing it with skullcrusher's damage increase

[muted pike]

Mk4 chaxe kills crusher in 2 lights once you get headtaker+slaughterer rolling, its the nuts

[hard nexus]

i know

[zinc talon]

I'd have sillier breakpoints on the crusher and not be so reliant on crit % if I took carapace

[thorn sable]

“Once you get it rolling” that’s the tricky bit

And why other weapons are generally better

[zinc talon]

but it'd take away from the damage scaling you get from just tackin on to the base stats you're already boosting with your build

[muted pike]

Legit 1 taps everything but carapace and unyielding, and it 2 taps them

[hard nexus]

but slaughterer gives you 40% power consistently, compared to thrust working only on heavies, reducing the effectiveness of your PA which is extremely strong

also, weakspot and crit damage are just

not very good in general

[zinc talon]

it's easier to get caught and swallowed up by several things at once with the chainaxe because of its tunnel vision attacking

[hard nexus]

you’d get more value out of +elites

[muted pike]

Chaxe isnt great at horde clear, but it isnt terrible

[zinc talon]

valid, this is the opposite

this kills everything while it's still on its ass before it gets back up

oneshots all the way to ogri

but has the CC and disengage the chainaxe is lackin

so the team benefits

[muted pike]

Throw a push attack+heavy into a horde then 1 tap damn near everything in the game with lights

[hard nexus]

crusher just does that by nature

[zinc talon]

well yeah, that's what drew me to it

cuz the point of darktide is not to kill faster and faster or more things at a time

the point of darktide, is to not die

if everyone doesn't die for long enough, the mission ends

so I've built around the idea of bringing the not-dyingest gear I can find

unfortunately that puts me in the position of keeping the other idiots in my pugs alive

cuz if they die, it's easier for me to die

(that was okri's entire crux for the first like year the game was out cuz ogryn were so dependent on cohesion)

[muted pike]

Hence why dueling sword is in class of its own

[zinc talon]

duelling sword is just three knives in a trenchcoat

[muted pike]

Doesnt die but also kills everything

[zinc talon]

I couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like weapons in that vague genre/class

but someone put it to me really well

the dagger and duelling sword are super killy but what you don't get is the ability to turn around and stand your ground in a fight, ever

[hearty nebula]

i dont like DS because it takes the fun out of the game

[zinc talon]

it's always panic dodging slippery weasel the whole mission

[muted pike]

DS is an absurd combination of "Cant die if cant be touched" and "an enemy cannot kill you if they are dead"

[hearty nebula]

like sure i might be kind of on the meta snob train but fuck

[zinc talon]

the crusher, slab shield, eviscerator etc etc let you plant your feet and hold the line

[hearty nebula]

DS is just braindead

[zinc talon]

so I think I glommed onto specifically that without havin words for it in my head coming from a maintank to other classes

to me, an enemy that spends its entire time CC'd and takes longer to kill is less dangerous than an enemy you kill more quickly but has the potential to shank you in the kidney before he does

also if I keep the whole room on its ass you guys clean the place up wonderfully

[muted pike]

What a guy

[zinc talon]

you get free swings, I get high health squaddies, you get big numbers at the end, I get rashuns

[thorn sable]

If you lose the ability to cc them for even an instant they are back in action

Dead people by contrast stay dead

[zinc talon]

I mean in the sense of the max impact staggers like making the reaper stumble back or breaking a bulwark's guard

the moment they start that animation, they're more or less always gonna be locked in, so from that spot in time you have however many number of seconds to kill them

it's just a matter of findin the hook line and sinker for that particular enemy at the health he's at when you first bonk em

yeah that thrust crusher can oneshot everything up to ogri

but other blessings ar emore ideal in a law of large numbers sense, like opportunist

I'm just on a kick rn where I'm trying to see how many thrust stacks I can get in while still CCing as per usual

[hard nexus]

opportunist is bad

in general

[zinc talon]

the lil extra half seconds in the swings

[hard nexus]

any weapon that can take opportunist has better options

[thorn sable]

I think after hitting a particular skill level it’s mostly a preference and play style thing

[zinc talon]

it's synergistic with the crusher though because of the amount of damage you get out of weakspot/crit hits, paired with skullcrusher cuz you already just hit them to cc them, paired with backstab cuz they're knocked around backwards

[ornate bone]

Chainaxe is honestly so cool

[zinc talon]

all of those other things benefit from opportunist

[ornate bone]

A freaking chainsaw as an axe, how cool is that

[hard nexus]

right but 25% rending isn’t much considering the crusher already has really good armor ADMs

[zinc talon]

so it's a more noticable step up than weapons that don't uptier their damage as much or don't have skullcrusher to benefit from

sure, valid

[hard nexus]

slaughterer gives you more damage more consistently

[zinc talon]

I think of it like another blessing spot for 10% damage to elites or specialists

it's gonna give you an increase across everything though

[hard nexus]

so does slaughterer

and slaughterer is 40%

[zinc talon]

opportunist is every hit every time, slaughterer is four seconds then you're missing a blessing slot

[hard nexus]

requires staggering enemies

[zinc talon]

granted yeah in hordes it outpaces opportunist just fine

[hard nexus]

and then hitting that staggered enemy

[zinc talon]

which you're gonna be doin anyawy

[hard nexus]

keeping slaughterer up against armor packs is very easy

[zinc talon]

that's what skullcrusher relies on anyway

[hard nexus]

correct

[zinc talon]

opportunist is just the peas to skullcrusher's carrots

[hard nexus]

disagreed

[zinc talon]

plus, bosses

crusher falls behind vs field bosses

rending really helps there

granted, you gotta have a way to stun em sure

[fleet zealot]

what’s crushers adms

[hard nexus]

you do realize that opportunist requires staggering the boss

[zinc talon]

but I run relic, and there's almost always another vet shout or ogryn shout/charge in the squad in the laarger sense

[zinc talon]

and field bosses if you can stun em say, twice? in the span of say half a minute?

if it's not just you and the boss and the team's on em, two full stuns on anything will be half its health at least

but this's all professional armchair generaling cuz the crusher's already lacking vs bosses

[hard nexus]

considering slaughterer not only gives you 40% more damage, but also 40% more stagger and cleave, even further enabling skullcrusher

opportunist will just fall behind

[zinc talon]

I'll give slaughterer another shot I just enjoy how skullcrusher and opportunist are already reliant on the same thing that needs to happen to proc them

so you get two gold stars for the price of one doing what you're already doing anyway

across every enemy everywhere minus field bosses

it's like knowing how tohaving to drive on the highway for a decade before you get a car that has cruise control, I guess

[misty nova]

Nuh uh
40% rending ogryn

With that being said

Hello chat

Use sunscreen

[zinc talon]

[misty nova]

Bye chat

[zinc talon]

oh

I miss them already

[drowsy steppe]

+10% attack speed node taken

youre safe...for now

🙂

[zinc talon]

I am noticing tho, even though thrust is a fun change of pace, it's getting me caught up by virtue of just generally making me slower in my swings

so I'm not max-speed dodge/push/block trolling to keep my momentum up and make distance the defense instead of just timing the dodge

in auric maels and havocs it only has to happen once or twice and now you're sitting in time out

[zinc talon]

the slots aren't filled in on the weapon, could I suggest a bolt pistol for ya

[fleet zealot]

So yea only carapace

[thorn sable]

I’m probably gonna go bolter as I played bolt pistol to death on vet

[fleet zealot]

Opportunist would barely help on things that aren’t cara

[zinc talon]

oh then you have your niche and time in the seat then, good

[fleet zealot]

Like 5% on everything else

[drowsy steppe]

reading old chat logs

[thorn sable]

And being able to mag dump bosses when skull hunting is handy bc lowbies tend to be pretty iffy at boss damage

[drowsy steppe]

came across 'until death is a dead node. Even 10% attack speed is better'

this guy sacrificed his family for 10% attack sped

[fleet zealot]

So would i

Layers of offense

[drowsy steppe]

I once posted a build of mine

it was for a dclaw

IJ keystone

the biggest criticism was me not taking 10% attack speed

I hate it here

[deep imp]

just play a Maelstrom with this build, pretty solid https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b87a97a-743c-401c-af75-b728d6efb97e/inquisitorial-preacher-immolation-grenade-chorus-of-spiritual-fortitude-blazing-piety

[drowsy steppe]

aaah

I should put block efficiency on my claw

less stam consumption on parries

[placid fiber]

Hey, I caught another pokemon! Nice!

[clever swan]

i wish you could hide that

[placid fiber]

that someone is typing?

[fleet zealot]

Gotta catch em all

[deep imp]

why ppl put damage at 60

[clever swan]

more that i am typing

[fleet zealot]

Because damage is the dump stat

[clever swan]

i dont want people to know

[zinc talon]

this is the bolter I've been using forever, I haven't even bothered to upgrade it cuz that's how it rolled back when the crafting was revamped and I'd gotten used to the weapon to the point it didn't matter about the one point five percent increase to reload speed

[fleet zealot]

For flamers specifically

[placid fiber]

DW I won't show you :3

[deep imp]

why

[placid fiber]

because they get damage from the burn stat

[fleet zealot]

Because flamer damage comes from the burn dot and not the impact damage

[zinc talon]

even for left click huh

[deep imp]

oh okay

[fleet zealot]

60 to 80 is one impact damage which is nothing

[deep imp]

thanks for explain

[thorn sable]

Mobility is also fine to dump on flame

[zinc talon]

yeah it already sucks to sprint with

like, as bad or worse than the shield

[deep imp]

I'm playing this, but feel like the Tigrus was hard to control horde

[zinc talon]

I'd vote mobility too

[thorn sable]

You’re only bringing it out for a Barbie

Not a track meet

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-girl-gif-2988140820707867800

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533050129700356106/1311847246043545650/attachment.gif

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-princess-bride-you-fool-gullible-gotcha-gif-14120688

trap card

https://tenor.com/view/vizzini-princess-bride-getgoing-unbelievable-gif-25960909

[placid fiber]

Hey, look, you improved your face today

Nice

[hearty nebula]

thats urs

[placid fiber]

Nah, not ugly enough

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-anime-studio-trigger-thistle-gif-16992136362585981252

[placid fiber]

that's an improvement to my face

[potent gate]

MK3 requires a bit more familiarity with the combos which is why you might be struggling with hordes.

[hearty nebula]

thats what i imagine how your head looks like yeah

given some of the things you say

[placid fiber]

The elf femboy isn't real... it can't hurt you... the elf femboy:

[zinc talon]

it's worth mentioning the heavy rev cleave attack on the tigrus has a bigger damage differential than the light rev on the new eviscerator

it takes more time but the damage increase is there, the new one is basically indistinguishable saw cleave from just swinging

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/thistle-sissel-dungeon-meshi-delicous-in-dungeon-gif-6376618970400129217

[hearty nebula]

real

[drowsy steppe]

I love the fluiditiy of the mk3 more

[zinc talon]

yep I prefer it too

[hearty nebula]

thjis is @copper hawk

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[misty nova]

It's a combo weapon but with mediocre rewards for being a combo weapon

[zinc talon]

the new one is prolly better at its numbers and metrics

but it's just so boring

[placid fiber]

Pocahontas!

but as an elf

[zinc talon]

if I could get the auto rev stab from the new evis onto the old one I'd prolly go back to maining with it

love that attack, it's so unnecessarily violent

[hearty nebula]

bwarg

[zinc talon]

and a fun lil dispatch finisher to be done with a wounded enemy so you can pivot

swing swing youthought! push stab saw proceed

[misty nova]

Or to snatch a dog midair

[zinc talon]

that's the ** best **

[potent gate]

They should update the specials damage ticks imo

[zinc talon]

I ** love** catching dogs with big attacks midair

[potent gate]

It being so backloaded is kind of bent

[fleet zealot]

More like Sauruman

[zinc talon]

that produces the splashy chemicals for like the rest of the day

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/wet-tom-and-jerry-water-splash-abspritzen-gif-21281818

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-anime-studio-trigger-thistle-gif-2394927323506465466

[placid fiber]

glow

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-in-dungeon-dungeon-meshi-thistle-sissel-elf-gif-15354851480496838112

[hearty nebula]

fake

she's LAZY and STUPID

and SMELLY

[placid fiber]

The healthy cow with a broken leg:

[ornate bone]

just like me in the real irl life

[hearty nebula]

true

[zinc talon]

WOTCHA COLL A GROX WOTS ONLY GOT TEW OVVITS LEGS

LEAN BEEF

HAWHAHAWHAWHAWHAW

[placid fiber]

[zinc talon]

WOTCHA COLL A GROX WOTS GOT NO LEGS ATOLL

GROUND

BEEF

[placid fiber]

That... that's the 1st thing I thought of... but I thought it was too stupid...

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/fozzy-fozzie-bear-fozzy-bear-fozzie-muppets-gif-9055812099601683817

I love throwin that out in the elevator rides

somebody isn't ready for it every time

[placid fiber]

[zinc talon]

and it takes as long to type as the ride does, so at least I'm not in the corner spam clicking my stim

[placid fiber]

for a second I thought you meant irl lol

[zinc talon]

I promise you if you can find a lil repeat quip to toss out in the beginning loading lobby or the elevator you will win more missions

cuz that one little dumb chuckle you made some rando have is gonna be the d ifference between whether he comes to get you or you go sit in time out

or a brazilian other lil reasons why

[placid fiber]

"Dibs on being the 1st one to die to the insert absurd situation wombo combo!"

That's what I hit em with

and... I'm usually the only one that doesn't go down as well in half of those runs...

[hearty nebula]

fat

[hearty nebula]

👀

[zinc talon]

why i oughta

[hearty nebula]

lard...

[zinc talon]

bullitt paddin

[ornate bone]

that dad body really be hitting hard fr

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289540858479247382/1316033280138543134/caption.gif

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[ornate bone]

😄

[placid fiber]

me after hitting someone with the worst joke ever:

https://tenor.com/view/let's-seal-the-deal-dap-me-up-fist-bump-handshake-seal-gif-2238273738223626114

like this one ^

[zinc talon]

rate my new duelling sword setup

[spring palm]

shocking

[misty nova]

The safe word's police brutality

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-styles-shocking-gif-23595597

[zinc talon]

well unfortunately

even though lethal proximity is bigly yuge for stability at all times

falter on a shock mace doesn't seem to really do much at all for +30% impact at all times

I thought falter would pair with lethal prox's aoe size and I could get stun grenades in a pistol magazine

doesn't seem like it

falter doesn't ever really seem to work on its own melee swings

I just dont notice extra bonk where the regular attack wouldn't have bonked

at least with crusher/paul/slab blessings, you put on more woomph and you can see it in how far you send em flyin

and how many in a swing you send flying

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-lordof-the-rings-smash-hit-swing-gif-4849903

^this, is prolly why I use the crusher

like what keeps me lookin forward to the next sitdown when I'm doin something else

I just love gettin that perfect swing in where they're massed up or on the ground, and you wouldn't normally even come close to killin them with that swing

but the skullcrusher, the activate, the thrust, the opportunist, the whatever

or all of it cuz you're a crusha connasewwa

and you just balefire the poor fuck

bolt weapons have a yuge amount of that experience and aesthetic too

most satisfying weapons to use and use well

for all their clunkiness

oh my god, the flamer with falter

penetrating flame and fan the flames

oh my GOD yall

[hearty nebula]

i think the noobie was confused by how hard i was pushing melee lmao

just the regular ahh RB MKX build

[zinc talon]

whoops

so that's a flat 60% bypass of resistance

then 75% more impact after that

while also layin 4% brittleness per puff

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289540858479247382/1316033280138543134/caption.gif

yaplord

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-dont-talk-close-mouth-grab-lips-mad-family-gif-21732788

crazy

if you puff once to stagger

by the time you've gone back to work after that one stun, if they're suppressed (which they will be), they root in place and go nowhere

[runic grotto]

Is onslaught good for veteran with recon?

[twilit otter]

what are good blessings for DB shotgun for firing into mixed hordes

[vast basin]

Why ask this in the zealot chat

[runic grotto]

Because I don't trust veterans

[vast basin]

Fair

[remote lark]

💀

[vast basin]

I would say onslaught is generally not needed because vet has good melee into cara anyway

[stone fern]

onslaught good

[vast basin]

Duelling sword, knife, rashad and psword all come to mind

But then again haha funny recon

[twilit otter]

onslaught is pretty good for recon lasgun assuming you have shredder grenades so you can kill armor at range

[acoustic dune]

OK hear me out

Zealots

Thank for coming to my ted talk

Also do you think they should remove or change until death for how much its a needed pic until death is?

The literal second chance is always a pick

[fleet zealot]

Scattershot manstopper

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-griffin-yapping-yap-yapping-pretentious-gif-9955324965341694991

[fleet zealot]

Inb4 someone says just don’t get hit

[misty ravine]

manshot

[stone fern]

no

ogryn can eat like 3 overheads without blocking and survive

vet can eat one and not take any damage as long as theyre at full toughness

zealot doesnt have any of that and has worse toughness sustain than an ogryn

until death is fine imo

[thorn sable]

I mean… not in havoc

And imo it should also be that way in standard game

[acoustic dune]

That I get but hing is its quite a literal need to get pick

[stone fern]

yeah

[thorn sable]

The 1hk attacks are very heavily telegraphed

[acoustic dune]

We really need a new skill tree twerk

[stone fern]

ye i get that its a slow easy to dodge attack

the issue is ogryn has far worse dodges than any other class

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber TWERK IT UP LAD

[stone fern]

its bad design to make a class in a tide game around tonking

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/buh-bee-bruh-gif-4580763730124008555

[acoustic dune]

Thanks ferret poster

[stone fern]

🚬 its gonna be worse

[cold aspen]

Why dodge when you can just smack things

[stone fern]

reworking the tree would just make it worse

[stone fern]

because playing ogryn is horrible outside of situations where you have to clutch

[hearty nebula]

ogryn does not need a tree rework

they need a class rework

they're just ass compared to the rest of the cast

[stone fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1322920558115033128/8mb.video-k04-aXxJ77XG_1.mp4?ex=6773f2c7&is=6772a147&hm=ded8cd3449e74dccd8b4581dfde353154152864169db7f8001715d98940dfce9&
look at how horrible this is

almost 3 minutes of bonking