zealot-class

[heady rapids]

oh oh can I suggest something

[acoustic dune]

go on

[check name]

[hearty nebula]

LMFAO

[acoustic dune]

BLADE WOLF?????????

[heady rapids]

?!

[hearty nebula]

oly crab luois

[acoustic dune]

theres only one space for a edgy wolf here

[red swift]

Holy based

[hearty nebula]

blad wolf from ta hit game....

metal gorp rising...

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710505734282018889/1305603431540461579/2024-11-11_214100427.gif

[placid fiber]

one without any talents besides martyr's purpose, loner, and uses the autopistol catachan devil's claw build

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783400580432265267/1310227816817758208/togif.gif

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/shitty-glorp-life-i-cant-take-this-glorp-life-anymore-alien-girl-smoking-gif-8323861188386711474

[placid fiber]

"Put me down, PUT ME DOWN THIS INSTANT HUMAN!"

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[hearty nebula]

wtfreak

[acoustic dune]

anyhow back to darktide

[hearty nebula]

scrunches u

like chip

[acoustic dune]

glorptide

[copper hawk]

Wtff !!

[placid fiber]

cica matchmaking 101

[copper hawk]

Licks u like a chip idk

Lmfao

Licks the flavor off u

[hearty nebula]

FREAK

[heady rapids]

friendly reminder this is NOT a place to talk about darktide

[copper hawk]

And puts u back in the fucking bag

[hearty nebula]

gooner....

[copper hawk]

I knew a guy who did that

[hard nexus]

need

[ornate bone]

is it me or game getting kinda buggy lately, I kept getting stuck in some corners and can't get out

[placid fiber]

chocolate or potato

[hearty nebula]

stop getting stuck

[copper hawk]

They were doritos

The red ones

[placid fiber]

hard or soft

[copper hawk]

Ugh

[hearty nebula]

thats so nasty...

[copper hawk]

Dude he eas a grown adult

Army reslly makes you meet fucking creatures man

[hearty nebula]

i considered doing navy but im was literlaly too much of wimp to even enlist

lmfao

[heady rapids]

coast guard it is

[hearty nebula]

hell nawh

coast goard lame

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dance-jiggle-cat-jiggle-car-gif-16775453227003313444

[pure tree]

I tried joining the Navy, they rejected me tho

[hearty nebula]

this is normal for you

[pure tree]

Something about putting "the notorious ship eater" on my enlistment paper didn't sit well with recruiters

[red swift]

why navy

[gleaming kelp]

Streamers after the cam is off

[red swift]

Army Natty guard or Air force is where it's at

[pure tree]

I wanted to eat ships

[red swift]

Damn, too dangerous

[acoustic dune]

thinking

[red swift]

I too enjoy knocking back poxwalkers every 10 seconds over 10% crit chance

[acoustic dune]

its mostly for dogs

if i get a what da dog doing moment

[placid fiber]

Average day with cica...

[acoustic dune]

but i am still thinking

[placid fiber]

oh wait I can malke it better

[acoustic dune]

and she call me a freak

oh btw

PHIL

wanna game?

[placid fiber]

Uh... I'm getting ready to head to bed x.x

[acoustic dune]

ok bed boy

[placid fiber]

Gimme like a week and a half

or a week

idk

I blame godd

[acoustic dune]

or next year

godd?

[pure tree]

Wtf did I do

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jared-goff-detroit-lions-gif-4470166890973137073

[placid fiber]

Yeah, for being too easy to catch

[acoustic dune]

welp godd

to the collection you go

btw

[placid fiber]

:3

[acoustic dune]

o for fuck sake

[placid fiber]

I love doing this shit when I'm bored

[acoustic dune]

how many variation of knify wolf do you have?

[placid fiber]

good question

idk

I'd probably have to check my screenshots folder

[acoustic dune]

golly

[placid fiber]

I kinda don't want to do that

and that added 1 more screenshot as well lol

[acoustic dune]

damn

[placid fiber]

and I added another... <.<'

and this is after cleaning it up a few times

I've deleted probably over 2 gbs of photos from it already lol

[acoustic dune]

lad

[twilit otter]

for tac axe stealth zealot.. headtaker and shred?>

[heady rapids]

why does it smell like updog in here

[acoustic dune]

you should make a wallpaper out of it

[acoustic dune]

in who?

[placid fiber]

why are you an easy pokemon to catch

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744015979344035864/1295783539782193282/shutupbaldy.gif

[acoustic dune]

mine is this

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/linkara-coming-for-you-vagina-finda-did-you-learn-your-lesson-hmm-gif-14008494

[plush estuary]

Headtaker Bm, flak, unarmoured dump mobilityt

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[placid fiber]

I knew I had one in my screenshots folder

probably more tbh

[placid fiber]

isn't headtaker bm only for the mk7?

taxe that is

[plush estuary]

talking mk 7

mk 2 is a bit different

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[plush estuary]

@spare talon knows mk2

[acoustic dune]

how does limb splitter work?

[placid fiber]

by sucking

[heady rapids]

it splits the limb

[placid fiber]

isn't it one hit every 3s or something at +60% power?

on a weapon... that attacks way more than every 3s

[acoustic dune]

yeah

[placid fiber]

Holy fuck I was closer than I thought lol

How do I know limbsplitter better than other WAY better blessings?!

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber

[placid fiber]

YES!

[acoustic dune]

add this to the collection

[placid fiber]

Done

but you made it to obig

[acoustic dune]

did i?

look fine to me

[placid fiber]

This is how you do it

such a rookie mistake

[acoustic dune]

nuh uh

[placid fiber]

you made it not only contain 1 color of backround

[acoustic dune]

is this right?

[placid fiber]

This is right

see?

[acoustic dune]

anyhow

[placid fiber]

not this

God

amateur

[acoustic dune]

back to theory testing

[placid fiber]

Anyone can play the game, only a few can do it right

[acoustic dune]

OMG

[placid fiber]

(the secret is ocding the snip)

see?

I just got that one lol

because once you hit the snip tool you have a long as you want to select the area you want

God I've been doing this way too long...

[gleaming kelp]

....but why?

[acoustic dune]

say the guy with 2gb of screenshot

[placid fiber]

boredom + adhd

[gleaming kelp]

Valid

[placid fiber]

with a touch of ocd

[acoustic dune]

ah nvm

shit that was my real name

[gleaming kelp]

Self doxx

[placid fiber]

dw I am too adhd to notice that

I only saw the 1gb size lol

[acoustic dune]

there

[placid fiber]

holy shit you just gave me a really stupid idea

[acoustic dune]

now they can locate my location

[placid fiber]

leave instant replay on... and when I miss something... use it

[acoustic dune]

):

[gleaming kelp]

Triangulate your position via your click behavior

https://tenor.com/view/takane-lui-hacker-man-hacking-typing-fast-speed-gif-26238356

[placid fiber]

Holy shit I don't have to save the last x minutes for it as well

God this is a devious plan

[drowsy steppe]

mmmm

[placid fiber]

it also means all of those times I missed the 1 frame of time only 1 person was typing...

I can get back...

[gleaming kelp]

Tzeentch madness

[placid fiber]

I never denied my insanity

I mean... I'm not gonna ever use it in any serious capacity... and due to adhd I'll forget about it 99% of the time lol

even at low quality the thing is like 375mb for 5 minutes of it... I'll have to delete each video immediately after making it lol

[heady rapids]

who's winning in a fight

[placid fiber]

neither

they're both dying to the barrel

[acoustic dune]

my built is so shit

the game crashed

[placid fiber]

Even the game itself knows your unholy abomination doesn't deserve the light of day

and he faded

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[gleaming kelp]

Too real. Thin hallways and barrels are the real reject killer.

[placid fiber]

same for the start of gloriana and randos

[drowsy steppe]

dont be angry 🙁

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[placid fiber]

Nah she's just disappointed in zealot chat's tomfoolery

and/or plotting our imminent demises as we speak...

and trying to see if she can control potato

https://tenor.com/view/potato-laugh-kepala-ubi-gif-1769729172946268170

https://tenor.com/view/shuffling-slabs-be-like-gif-25371017

God I wish making sandwiches was that easy

[acoustic dune]

the game cant stop me

from making the abomination work

[gleaming kelp]

It's just ham and bread

[placid fiber]

it's like 10 sandwiches made in 15 seconds

[gleaming kelp]

But where the rest of it

[placid fiber]

Who tf cares?

A hungry man is hungry

A mans gotta eat

[acoustic dune]

its a duck

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-lemon-lemons-lemonade-gif-8218489844233896428

[gleaming kelp]

I care where rest of sandvich?!

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[acoustic dune]

ur mom

[placid fiber]

:3

[gleaming kelp]

My mom has the sandwich?

[placid fiber]

Yes

[gleaming kelp]

I've been captured in your damn screenshot Shadow Realm

[placid fiber]

You've been captured like 5-10 times by now lol

at least 2 or 3 of those were in the last 30 minutes

[gleaming kelp]

Real paparazzi hours

[placid fiber]

I even captured myself once

when clad renamed himself to DarkPillWarrior

[visual stream]

[gleaming kelp]

[placid fiber]

where?

lol

Oh boy, duty calls >_>'

[visual stream]

Here

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1iBThaP_TaY?si=oFKZRUykRSj55pE4 does this to chat

[placid fiber]

my arch nemesis!

[remote lark]

[placid fiber]

and bark died

typical

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-18865199

[muted pike]

Huh, chaxe applies 16 bleed stacks... chsword applies 14... and evis applies 6

[placid fiber]

yep

and they all suck

[muted pike]

With bloodletter

[placid fiber]

evis applied to all enemies hit by the rev

[remote lark]

bleed me

[placid fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1166851827900350575/bloodknife.gif

[fleet zealot]

i thought chsword is 16 as well

[placid fiber]

no it's 14

[fleet zealot]

you just have t3 bloodletter on chsword

[muted pike]

Yeah, but just 6 bleeds. Good for building crit but terrible for killing anything

[fleet zealot]

i'm going crazy

[gleaming kelp]

I kinda hate hab dreyko. Either the objectives get done quickly or we take forever, there's no in between.

[fleet zealot]

insane

[fleet zealot]

i mean

you always take rampage

if you want crit

go shred

[remote lark]

remove the 'we' and win by yourself then

[fleet zealot]

(or bloodthirsty)

[placid fiber]

6 bleeds... which can be applied to multiple horde enemies at once

which is the gimmick

as to why it does way less

[gleaming kelp]

I try. Eventually succeed when everyone else is fucking about with the hoard away from me.

[placid fiber]

meanwhile chain sword and chain axe auto stick to 1 enemy on the rev

[muted pike]

Bloodthirsty or guaranteed bleed stacks on rev will let you build crit faster. Surge gives higher ceiling tho but slower build-up

Not surge, shred

[placid fiber]

I stand by what I said earlier: all bloodletters suck

[fleet zealot]

if you have piety, shred is your best bet, you'll just have a high consistent crit chance

[placid fiber]

the only thing they do somewhat nice is extra boss damage

at the cost of a much better blessing

[fleet zealot]

and when you wonder why "but why am I not always stacking scourge" it's cause evi isn't a finesse weapon with high attack speed/lower base damage

bloodthirsty imo is better with non crit keystones but still wanting to benefit from enduring faith/crit cdr

and bloodletter is just garbage

doesn't do anything relevant

[placid fiber]

yeah

[acoustic dune]

the fucking perk

[placid fiber]

only gives a bit of memey boss damage when you can only stick 1 rev tick into the monster at a time

[fleet zealot]

just grab a knife at that point ngl

[placid fiber]

Yeah

It's a meme

[fleet zealot]

uncanny giving 25% more unyielding damage minimum, probably a bit more

[muted pike]

Its nice because you can cleave through the horde, applying bleed, and if you get latched you can dodge out if necessary and whatever you latched onto still gets the stacks

[remote lark]

i love ogryns

[fleet zealot]

the bleed isn't enough to be relevant

[placid fiber]

again: at the cost of a much better blessing

[fleet zealot]

and most horde you "cleave" through dies

because of how evis work with rev'd horizontals

[remote lark]

u need to understand that zealot chat does not understand and will not understand the concept of anything that isn't meta

[muted pike]

Whats relevant is it allows you to get the 30% bonus faster from tree

[remote lark]

things can be good

there will always be something beter

[fleet zealot]

what does 30% crit do for evi

not a lot

[muted pike]

I see

[fleet zealot]

it has low finesse especially for it's horde clear attacks

[placid fiber]

and how does that compare to shred and bloodthirsty?

a free crit or 25% crit

or w/e shred is

[fleet zealot]

cause one slot is always going to be rampage

[placid fiber]

^

[red swift]

Fairly certain uncanny is around 10% on unyielding

[placid fiber]

"I can get 30% crit faster"... which can be gained on top of 25% crit

[muted pike]

Shred would build the talent slower than directly applying bleed stacks would but would have higher crit ceiling

[fleet zealot]

bleed is 0.75 on unyielding

so it would go up to 1.00

then it would take the remaining 75%, divide it by 4

[red swift]

How does it do that? Is there a calculation somewhere

[fleet zealot]

18.75% damage on top of it now having 1.00 adm

[red swift]

If that’s true it better than I thought

[placid fiber]

either way: the weapon has poor finesse damage and the bleed damage does very minimal work

[fleet zealot]

bleed damage table on pins

[red swift]

Also I didn’t know about the bloodthirsty special on hordes with mk2 evis

I need to try that, it’s sounds pretty goated

[fleet zealot]

scourge is nice especially on high finesse weapons, but to be honest, it's better to oneshot and kill things quicker and not get scourge stacks

[red swift]

Shred can fall off on miss so I get people don’t like it

[fleet zealot]

then it is to kill things slower for scourge stacks

[fleet zealot]

Special H1 QQ never dies

[fleet zealot]

it should just be the normal rending boosts point for point adms up until 1.00 or higher, then converted to damage at 1/4th rate

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah, it's just when compared to something that is minimal damage that only applies to revved attacks... and bloodthirsty which reaches a crusher 1 shot breakpoint... it just feels meh(bloodletter that is)

[fleet zealot]

1.00 adm = 100% effective damage

[remote lark]

tldr

crit bad on evisc

bleed bad

so giving up an entire blessing for those 2 things

is bad

[fleet zealot]

also dodging out is not something to play around

[red swift]

Further proof that uncanny/lacerate is the most goated knife setup

[fleet zealot]

you'll be in stamina land

it's your tool to use if needed

[remote lark]

stop breathing

(i use that)

[red swift]

Don’t knock it till you try it

[fleet zealot]

and if i see another fucker running crit mk15 chaxe with bloodletter thunderous i am going to commit some FUCKING crimes

[remote lark]

i dont want other ppl to use it then i cant look good by being knife carried

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah, I only ran bloodletter on my vet for memes back in the day... with the chainsword(mk4)

[fleet zealot]

just go fleshtearer

it's a boss

it's going to live for 2 crits

[red swift]

Flesh on piety is the way to go

On IJ it’s lacerate

[fleet zealot]

on ij it's flesh too

[red swift]

Can’t decide which is better tbh

Nah gamer

Too inconsistent on IJ

[remote lark]

without piety u dont get enough crits on knife

[fleet zealot]

at least crit does somethign for chsword

[fleet zealot]

then go riposte

and hit the head

and you'll get 16 stacks from scourge

[red swift]

Nah but need uncanny lol

[placid fiber]

yeah

[fleet zealot]

riposte+uncanny

crit em 8 times

[red swift]

I mained riposte uncanny for the longest time

[remote lark]

lacerate makes horde clear more viable with mk6

[red swift]

Now it’s uncanny lacerate

[remote lark]

riposte and uncanny isn't as good as lacerate uncanny

on mk6

i wouldn't reccomend it on mk3

[red swift]

I’m mk3 for life

[remote lark]

mk3 is precog/riposte

[red swift]

Mk6 I fight with the moveset too much

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-with-knife-blockchain-caw-cro-cronos-gif-8986183978415395187

[red swift]

Just get keep swinging mod xddd

[fleet zealot]

in fact crit does

weird on chsword

it is really one good buff away

[red swift]

I don’t think the move set makes a difference enough to change blessings. Just preferred moveset

[fleet zealot]

from being meta again i feel

[remote lark]

chsword has got to be teh weirdest weapon in the game stat wise

cleave cap

[fleet zealot]

crit damage not falling off with cleave is insane

[remote lark]

weird bleed modifiers

[placid fiber]

lacerate uncanny was only something I justified on my mk6 ij build cuz I had poor aim(and even then I still always aimed for weakspot hits over lacerate stacking)

[remote lark]

cleave enemies doesn't do anything

its literally a lobotomized stat stick

[fleet zealot]

so you can go duelist+ crit and just, shred through hordes

[fleet zealot]

pool noodle

full attack speed martyrdom chsword swings silly fast

[hard nexus]

chainsword doesn’t have a cleave cap

[fleet zealot]

i wonder how ridic it looks with a stim

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-johnson-noodles-gif-25332413

[placid fiber]

the new zealot melee: Dual wielded pool noodles

[fleet zealot]

like if any weapons are sleeping till next buff

[hard nexus]

huh

[fleet zealot]

it's chsword

[hard nexus]

chainsword is really strong

with chastise

[placid fiber]

cough autopistol cough

[fleet zealot]

nah

[hard nexus]

chastise pushes it from “decent horde clear” to really OP

[fleet zealot]

autopistol

is fundementally flawed

it needs actual saving/reworking or it's just going to be a weird power creep situation

[placid fiber]

and after getting nerfed enemies were made tankier as well

[delicate shadow]

well yea an automatic pistol without a stock is just silly

[fleet zealot]

i blame fatshark

for attaching crit and weakspot to the same finesse stat

[hard nexus]

we need a glockinator

[fleet zealot]

imo shredder should be a crit weapon

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/glockinator-fortnite-sam80o7-me-me-when-gif-8708272283498609356

[delicate shadow]

da blicky

[placid fiber]

This is why I am okay if it only reaches a mid base level... that way it isn't put back into a way too op situation

or left in the dirt

[fleet zealot]

have brautos be the base damage, have IAGs be all rounders, the VAGs weakspot

and make shredder crit focused

give it real crit damage so it can use it's cavalcade blessing

[hard nexus]

vag

[plush estuary]

guh?

[placid fiber]

Um... I don't think this is the 18+ chat...

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-butthead-sexed-gif-22202897

[grand tangle]

Def a weakspot

[hard nexus]

clitical hit

[fleet zealot]

once again

blame fatshark

[placid fiber]

I laughed way to hard to this lol

[plush estuary]

same

[fleet zealot]

Ahh yes one update and now the game has guns that shorten to VIAG and AVAG and VAG

they didn't do the middleschooler giggle test

[hard nexus]

true

[fleet zealot]

aquino can't even touch me

cause it's official

it's the acronym, what are they going to do, censor the short hand for weapons

[hard nexus]

vagina

[placid fiber]

I love it when my teammates bring AVAG and a VAG into my game

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffen-cant-touch-me-dance-family-guy-gif-13639480692802953623

[placid fiber]

Man... I really could use a VIAG you know?

[hard nexus]

viagra

[placid fiber]

There's tons of bad jokes

That's the joke

lol

[fleet zealot]

ED strikes many players

[hard nexus]

warhammer dysfunction

[mighty root]

I could watch this for hours

[placid fiber]

Within the top 10 most likely messages to get nuked

[mighty root]

[placid fiber]

dw we just had a discussion that was that

[mighty root]

They hate funny things

[placid fiber]

This one is much worse lol

[fleet zealot]

nature is beautiful

[mighty root]

Crazy how it’s indistinguishable from the real thing

[placid fiber]

This is still less violent than mother nature lol

[mighty root]

I’ve yearned for a gmod shesh for awhile

[remote lark]

evi

i got confused :(

[visual stream]

(hides suspiciously critmk15chaxewithbloodletterthunderous-shaped object behind back)

New pfp because I don't feel looking for my old one

[remote lark]

wtf

[visual stream]

The pfp hasn't kicked in yet

There it is

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/vampmondays-certified-gif-sam-hyde-whats-in-your-pocket-gif-26593158

[plush estuary]

pacifist run

@rocky nacelle

[remote lark]

hi ainz

[plush estuary]

Hallo

[remote lark]

actually u took 157 damage

there r damage numbers on ur board

[plush estuary]

it was that or deal damage

it was burster

and a barrel

[remote lark]

secret third option

leave game

[copper hawk]

Gnarp

[pure tree]

I wish there was a pacifist zealot build

[plush estuary]

got you

[remote lark]

the funniest part about that build

is the fact that you took loner

[plush estuary]

pathing

[remote lark]

so you aren't even giving your team an aura

its still funny

[plush estuary]

oooh

wait

I could go beacon

[remote lark]

ya

[pure tree]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[remote lark]

u would even save a point

why r u taking momentum keystone too

don't u need to attack to proc it

[plush estuary]

dodge distance

no

[remote lark]

what

[plush estuary]

you dodge attacks

[remote lark]

ooh

[plush estuary]

doding attacks gives 3 stacks

[rocky nacelle]

New zealot bot to replace veteran bot

[plush estuary]

yes

they got carried

[plush estuary]

you are right

I forgot

I can use barrels

[hard nexus]

oh then yes

they r bad

[copper hawk]

Yo meowma got carried

[remote lark]

enviro dmg ia counted

[plush estuary]

not if they dont hit enemies

[remote lark]

does knife special do dmg

ik it procs uncanny

[plush estuary]

yes

[delicate shadow]

why would you use uncanny wtf

that's not lacerate FT

[hushed knoll]

Why aren't you in bedge

[delicate shadow]

it's 9pm dude

[sterile stone]

11 Pm*

Get your zones right

[tepid sorrel]

flesh tearer...... lacerate....

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nuts-anton-cigurh-no-country-for-old-men-gif-27499167

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1315419986826887230/hey-girl.gif

yummy bleed

[frosty herald]

Ruthless backstab lacerate

https://tenor.com/view/boshka-baki-gif-17020917195779675007

[fleet zealot]

Ruthless backstab haymaker

Extreme violence

[muted pike]

Seems like if crit on evisc was good then applying the bleed on rev would be good as it'd be the most braindead way to build crit up quickly on zealot

Bleed sucks and crit is not worth the payoff tho it seems is the reason against it

[fleet zealot]

No cause bleed isn’t the best blessings on crit weapons either

None of the bleed blessings are the best for knife

Cause crit weapons can sustain scourge with just piety and sometimes even less(knife, taxe, dueling sword) and if you want more crit consistency you just take riposte / (shred for taxe)

[muted pike]

Knife can't horizontal cleave crit into a massive horde of enemies tho.

If critting consistently was able to significantly impact clear speed then that'd be the easiest way to consistently crit and get the 30% crit from talent in the least amount of hits. You just rev a horizontal heavy into a thicc horde and you are off to the races

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

crit is good on evis

[fleet zealot]

But that’s the thing

[hard nexus]

mainly because there aren’t any other good options

[fleet zealot]

Crit is inherently bad for cleaving

Cause it falls off

The exception is chainsword

[muted pike]

Youd get the crit multi and the bleed stacks themselves

[fleet zealot]

bleed stacks aren’t worth it, not the 2 you get from scourge

And if the enemy lives longer than 8 crits

Then yea, the captain/monstro has 16 stacks of bleed giving you like, 25% more total damage against them

Crit multi varies wildly on a weapon by weapon and even mark by mark basis

Attacks that are cleaving tend to have less crit multi, like the new relic blades

[muted pike]

Chainsword can't cleave with it rev like a mk3 evisc could so would likely be better off with bloodthirsty.

That said, chainsword could use the bleed blessing to rev into an elite... and even if you have to dodge cancel out you get the bleed stack as if you crit. Which then enables it to build crit again

[fleet zealot]

1.70 aks +170% on crit for single target type swings vs 0.7 +70% for the sweeps

[fleet zealot]

Chsword doesn’t need to do that

And you don’t need chsword to cleave on rev

[hard nexus]

bloodthirsty bad on everything except mk15 evis

[fleet zealot]

It is already cleaving weapon

[fleet zealot]

No music is pushing for bloodletter

Not bloodthirsty

[fleet zealot]

Or just, hit them

And you’ll stack scourge

[hard nexus]

i know, the beginning part of the message said it’d be better off with bloodthirsty

i said no

[fleet zealot]

It’s very much don’t chase a niche mechanic

Real gameplay you’ll maintain scourge extremely easily without your extra steps

And by real, mostly damn+

cause lower diff enemies have less hp and less of them

So oneshotting/quick kills are even more common

[muted pike]

Yeah, the chsword attacks signif more fast than the evisc

And kills in more hits

So naturally builds the 30% crit, doesn't need help from a blessing to do so

[fleet zealot]

Evi doesn’t either

Cause the 30% crit will be up if you need it

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/feixiao-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-7054801957826667690

[fleet zealot]

If you don’t stack it, then you don’t need it

[muted pike]

I was thinking moreso the mk3 evisc that weaves in heavies in its horde clear rotation. Didn't consider the finesse multi being meh

[hard nexus]

actually chainsword struggles with building scourge because it kills hordes too fast, whereas evis being so bad is a boon to crit builds, as you basically always have scourge up

[hard nexus]

heavies are terrible for damage on mk3

the cleave damage distribution is pathetic

can’t remember the numbers off the top of my head but it’s so bad

[muted pike]

Hence why I was curious how effective bleed stacks were in supplementing that damage output

[hard nexus]

they’re not

[muted pike]

Right

[hard nexus]

better to take savage sweep rampage or shred perfect strike to deal more damage

rather than waiting for bleed

[copper hawk]

Better 2 take

Hs 9..

[muted pike]

Well, better to take dueling sword mk4

[hard nexus]

if you’re a bitch

yeah

[copper hawk]

Better take ur soul

Cuz if ur usin the ds4

[hard nexus]

i’d live

[copper hawk]

U wont be needin that

[delicate shadow]

HS7 squad

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-anime-studio-trigger-thistle-gif-16992136362585981252

[hard nexus]

true !

[copper hawk]

Ill be takin dat..

[hard nexus]

fax my brother

[muted pike]

Yeah, I personally am not a fan of weap with doodoo/meh horde clear so would not consider the dueling sword despite it being great

[copper hawk]

The ds4 ,, has meh horde clear ,,

[dreamy wedge]

is uncanny strike mercy killer good

[hard nexus]

only on vet

[muted pike]

Meh in comparison to mk13 chainsword, no?

[copper hawk]

Uh

[dreamy wedge]

im uh zealot

[copper hawk]

Comapred to the 13

It's terrible

[hard nexus]

then take precog riposte on a crit build

[copper hawk]

The 13 has the best horde clear in the game

[hard nexus]

or precog uncanny

[copper hawk]

With wrath and shred

[hard nexus]

mk13g horde clear is only rivaled by heavysword

[copper hawk]

I think technically it's faster

[hard nexus]

and pickaxe

[copper hawk]

The crit dmg go cwazy

[hard nexus]

depends if it’s a mixed horde

[fleet zealot]

Obligatory copypasta before bed

[copper hawk]

Dependz if.. yo mama !

[hard nexus]

which one

[dreamy wedge]

is flesh tearer and riposte good together

[fleet zealot]

I thought mk4 with rampage shred>mk13g by like

[dreamy wedge]

im having trouble with horde clear on knife

[hard nexus]

it’s an okay combo, but i wouldn’t advocate for it

[fleet zealot]

A tiny bit

Very small

[hard nexus]

no clue, i don’t use the mk4

[fleet zealot]

You need uncanny with flesh tearer

[hard nexus]

also that

[fleet zealot]

Take riposte and precog

Best blessings for horde damage

[dreamy wedge]

what is this build good for

[copper hawk]

Killing things

[fleet zealot]

Use PAs more, use mk6 if you need to, and also, knife just isn’t a horde clear weapon

[muted pike]

Ye, chsword is the king of mixed horde clear right?

[copper hawk]

Flesh tearer for bleed crit chance

[fleet zealot]

Backwards

[copper hawk]

Uncanny for rending

[fleet zealot]

Chsword is best for pure chaff

Poxwalkers and groaners

[muted pike]

Ahh

[copper hawk]

Yah

And armored chaff

Bruisers

[dreamy wedge]

how much crit i have on knife with +4% crit chance i currently have uncanny and mercy killer

[hard nexus]

heavy sword wins in mixed hordes due to deathblow

[fleet zealot]

Other weapons dont fall off into bruisers and some can even cleave into the low tier elites

[muted pike]

What does heavy sword do vs carapace?

[copper hawk]

Bad

[hard nexus]

very poorly

[copper hawk]

U need chastise

[hard nexus]

chastise helps

[fleet zealot]

Very sad

[copper hawk]

Chastise w IoD + piety

[fleet zealot]

Chastise or alternate heavy special

[copper hawk]

Or IJ

[muted pike]

What does chsword do vs carapace?

[copper hawk]

Alternate heavy special has higher pen but significantly lower dmg than h1

[copper hawk]

Nothing

[fleet zealot]

Heavy swords best damage types are maniac and flak

[copper hawk]

Tickles

[fleet zealot]

Meh

[sterile basalt]

Just maniac

[fleet zealot]

Im like 99% sure

[hard nexus]

about 1k on a revved heavy weakspot, but with chastise it can one shot

[muted pike]

So both are doodoo vs carapace but are horde clear pog champs

[fleet zealot]

Some of the marks literally have 2x effective cleave into flak

Vet guide

[copper hawk]

Hs 9 id say wins

Over chord vs carapace

[hard nexus]

disagree

[copper hawk]

Two shot kil w a chastise opener

No need to wait for rev

[hard nexus]

one shot kill with chastise trick

[copper hawk]

Rev doesnt stagger crushers

[hard nexus]

it does on a crit

which chastise forces

[copper hawk]

Me watching as the heavy overhead comes down on my head

[fleet zealot]

Heavy sword leans into elites/bruisers, while chsword reigns supreme for pure chaff but im just an opinion

[hard nexus]

crushers get staggered by a crit rev

[sterile basalt]

The damage is not nearly as good as maniac is what I meant

[muted pike]

What does heavy sword do vs maulers?

[hard nexus]

without chastise up, normal heavy spam does more damage to carapace than the heavy sword

[copper hawk]

Not his buddies

Or the other stuff around it

[sterile basalt]

Takes like 4 body hits

[hard nexus]

700 or so damage per hit

[copper hawk]

In a void sure

[fleet zealot]

You hit the chest or if you have chastise hit the head

[copper hawk]

Ut ur gonna get i terrupted

Por ejemplo

Practically squeaki g

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNWvy9yuiMAmzQ_/spok?invite=cr-MSw1UzUsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNMhZOlTOl_61rw/spok?invite=cr-MSxGdGUsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[dreamy wedge]

is uncanny fles tearer good

[copper hawk]

This kills the chord user

[hard nexus]

that’s why you learn how to use chain weapons and wait for an opening

also chastise staggers everything around you as well

[muted pike]

The issue I have with heavy sword is the weird staggered swing patterns on the lights. Am I crazy?

[sterile basalt]

Heavy sword doesn’t use light attacks much

[copper hawk]

Ive never got this to work

It's so unreliable

Doesnt help that u need chastise to stagger AND a weakpoint hit for one crusher

[hard nexus]

what is

[copper hawk]

Whereas w the hs9 i can do all the damage upfront and dodge dance multiple enemies at once

W everything stacked a chastise hit w h1 on the hs 9 does nearly all the damage on a weakspot hit on a crusher

And can be instantly fatal on a crit

I hate the chain weapon gimmick of losi g the best years of your life watching a saw tickle damage u til the last tick

[fleet zealot]

Its the best bleed build

[copper hawk]

The hs9 also does significantly better when u dont have chastise and r just sinking raw heavies into its head

[fleet zealot]

The only one that isn’t trolling

[hard nexus]

no it doesn’t

[fleet zealot]

The best knife builds involve uncanny, riposte, precog

[copper hawk]

The 13g has significantly less un revd heavy damage than the hs9 has overhead h1 damage

[frosty herald]

Jarvis can you stroke it at medium speed

[copper hawk]

And it's nearly twice as slow

It has a weird like

Wind up to the swi g

[fleet zealot]

Riposte precog on piety zealot for max damage, uncanny for consistency on all knife builds

[dreamy wedge]

which of the three the best

[fleet zealot]

Depends on your build and skill

[dreamy wedge]

ok rip precog

[copper hawk]

Wish if u were still close to an enemy you could dodge and still be shredding them

[hard nexus]

into carapace it does not

[fleet zealot]

Uncanny is best as a generalist blessing, always good to take

[muted pike]

How does mk9 compare to mk6?

[copper hawk]

The 6 is the worst of the hs's

[fleet zealot]

Precog and duelist are also a perfect combo

[copper hawk]

Bad moveset

[fleet zealot]

For dealing extreme single target damage just for dodging random shit

[copper hawk]

The hs 9 is significantly better imo

[hard nexus]

163 from hsword to 284 from chainsword into carapace unbuffed with no build

[copper hawk]

The 7 and the 9 r the competitors

[hard nexus]

with buffs up that ratio stays the same

[fleet zealot]

So yea uncanny precog or precog riposte with piety if you are comfy with it

[copper hawk]

Couldve zwore it was less

[hard nexus]

nope

[copper hawk]

Still zlower

!

[hard nexus]

no

its not

lmfoa

[copper hawk]

Yah

It iz !

[muted pike]

I was mindblown when I saw Reginald's dps/kill time chart and saw the clear speed heavy sword mk6 has vs ragers

[lunar fable]

[copper hawk]

The 9 has a flat h2 and a slightly angled h3

It's better in that regard for proc'ing dblow on groups of ragers

Or any enemy

[muted pike]

Is the h1 mk6 and mk9 the same overhead?

[copper hawk]

That isnt carapace

Idk i havent used the 6 in eons

The h1 on the 9 is a strikedown chop

Then the following heavies are side ones

U loop back to h1 by pressi g the special attack and doing that

Then pressing heavy again

The h1 does the same damage as the 7 heavies

The other heavies on the hsword 9 do less damage

[muted pike]

This is what I am referring to

[copper hawk]

I prefer the 9 cuz it has everything

[hard nexus]

ok nvm it is faster

[copper hawk]

Meow just hate me

[hard nexus]

surprisingly

gonna test with buffs up

[copper hawk]

The 13 is so slow

It makes bo fucking sense

It has a faster light swing

But the heavies turn it into a lead stick

It has a ja ky wind up !! Why !!!!!

[frosty herald]

Hit enemy until it dies

[fleet zealot]

Ehh

[copper hawk]

Hit yo mama

Wait ,,

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[fleet zealot]

I see buffs on the bar

Unless that’s just background gameplay

[copper hawk]

Also dont rely on the spreadsheets rlly

Theory vs reality

U would conclude the 6 is better

When in practical gameplay it's frogshit

[fleet zealot]

He fucking tested

Chaxe4

With bloodletter

Vs a crusher

Nooe

I hate him

Entire thing is wrong (it’s 11:23 and i need to sleep)

[copper hawk]

And a lot of ppl who know theory uh

Let's just say

Dont translate it well into their actual gameplay

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/vibrate-vibrations-good-vibes-vibes-creepy-dolphin-gif-6194816561921037288

[copper hawk]

And vice versa

[muted pike]

What is the horde clear rotation of the mk9?

[sterile basalt]

This is not a fully accurate mix of numbers, it’s more like a general indicator

[copper hawk]

People who play very well sometimes know very little at the numbers level

[fleet zealot]

Why was his evi tested with shred 3

[sterile basalt]

Light 1 > [Heavy 2 > Heavy 3]

[frosty herald]

You can oneshot a crusher with a backstab in optimal conditions with shroudfield

[copper hawk]

H2 And H3 looping

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTbdN7XMMkVTjhFt5/spok?invite=cr-MSwxWVgsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSosFsHfIzhsOo8i4/spok?invite=cr-MSxnQUEsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[fleet zealot]

Light h2 h3 h2 h3 loops

[frosty herald]

But whose to say youll hit the oneshot every time

Or how youll manage more than 1 crusher

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSolyVfJJpN5dUCPf/spok?invite=cr-MSx2VkssMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dQB8U6XnBZxwW7b/spok?invite=cr-MSwxazQsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dASXzDZaWZPuzZ3/spok?invite=cr-MSxoeE0sMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

Vs armor

[fleet zealot]

This chaxe shit is bothing me

Ifky

[placid fiber]

"how you'll manage more than 1 crusher"... hm... tank 2+ overheads because you're busy roleplaying as a rando

[fleet zealot]

This isn’t real

[frosty herald]

How i feel knowing until death protects you from crusher instant corruption on an overhead

[fleet zealot]

Who is this youtuber so i can send them to hel

Where they belong

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-smiling-speed-ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-2336905834632375345

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[fleet zealot]

Dude has relic blade

If you going to test your shit

Test it all at t4

What da fuck

[hard nexus]

yeah ur right

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1257265944397615198.webp?size=96&animated=true

How the gunners shooting you while your distracted look:

[hard nexus]

i didnt really realize how stupidly slow those heavies are

[copper hawk]

Yah

Theyre so bad lmfao

And they innately dont stagger a crusher

[hard nexus]

and surprisingly the hsword seems to handle carapace better

u were right

[copper hawk]

U still hatez me,,

[hard nexus]

i didnt use revved heavies testing

to be clear

just normal heavy spam

[sterile basalt]

Mk13g chainsword is

[spare talon]

yeah

i do

[copper hawk]

I knowe u do

[spare talon]

btw i legit just used hs9 again

[copper hawk]

I have alway knowne..,

[hard nexus]

mk13g is still really strong imo

just

[spare talon]

still do not vibe with it anymore

[hard nexus]

heavies are weird

[copper hawk]

Miserable wpn

[spare talon]

the vibe has been lost since last year

[hard nexus]

chainweapons need buffs

[lunar fable]

i can't play the xiii anymore

[copper hawk]

Anywho

Need to do my 4928402 mile run

[lunar fable]

i don't really like it now for some reason

[placid fiber]

This must be how I was getting away with my hsword brauto clutch build(which used shroudfield) back in the day...

[copper hawk]

B4 my t crashes and i lose all motivation

[hard nexus]

pookie it’s been crashing

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/alphabet-lore-mike-salcedo-alphabet-letter-t-alphabet-lore-t-gif-27200402

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

Byeah

Too estrogen pilled

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/agenturleben-agencylife-hannover-kochstrasse-kstr-gif-27424224

[copper hawk]

I played dt again after a while last night

4got how fun it was

[spare talon]

is that why hes called mr e

[copper hawk]

Cole my biggest opp

Fr

Might be an ancient grub..

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036422093929189376.webp?size=96&animated=true

[spare talon]

i wasnt even talking about you this time lmao

[placid fiber]

the 1 time cole is on cica's side:

[copper hawk]

Doesnt deny the ancient grub allegationz

[placid fiber]

[copper hawk]

Only time cole on my zide is if he's about 2 push me off it

[lunar fable]

i've had balatro for 2 days

i'm zooming

[copper hawk]

2 MY DEATHE

[lunar fable]

i love gambling!!!

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-angry-goku-goku-stare-death-stare-kid-buu-gif-7537122150460177467

[copper hawk]

I need 2 refund it

I accidentally bought it for myself buying Christmas gifts

[frosty herald]

Dont refund it

Well play it together

[placid fiber]

Hm... pretty sure, iirc, that... you know... the word death... isn't spelled deathe... just a hot take... or smthing like that

[copper hawk]

I still need 2 buy meow gifts cuz she rejected my mhwildz gift i gave 2 her

[copper hawk]

Idk how 2 playyyyyyyy

Fomo,,

[placid fiber]

bang your head against a wall until it works

[copper hawk]

My schedule too pawful 2 play w u and para anywayz

[lunar fable]

world is like

10 bucks rn

[hard nexus]

they are very clunky to get into

[copper hawk]

Id be playin all by my lonezome

[hard nexus]

my boss is moving me to 9-5 and i want to kms

why!

grr

[copper hawk]

I might be moved to weekends

Speakin of which

[placid fiber]

me in ror2 be like:

[copper hawk]

Like my days off

[hard nexus]

killing myself

[copper hawk]

Since my sl wants to separate the two ppl who work together in a spot

That r like the most like

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[copper hawk]

Im sorry but this mission is a 00F and it shows

They're not.. the brightest and always on they damn phonez

So he wants me to babysit one of them

[placid fiber]

OOF... uh... Out of flour...?

[copper hawk]

On my m/t days off

So i get sat sun off

Zoon..

[hard nexus]

00F?

or just

oof

[copper hawk]

Double 0 foxtrot

Aka anykitty

[hard nexus]

doof

[placid fiber]

why not both?

[copper hawk]

Not mos dependent

[hard nexus]

doof…

[copper hawk]

Oomf..

[hard nexus]

woa

[copper hawk]

Noh..

[hard nexus]

my eyeballs feel weird

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[copper hawk]

Srry it's the rabies

[hard nexus]

oh hooray!!

[lyric venture]

😥

[copper hawk]

I learned so much tea today

About our platoon

[placid fiber]

me when I forget not to have hope in my randos...

[copper hawk]

And other ppl in other platoons

It kinda made me even more like

[hard nexus]

i’m all eyes

i mean ears

[copper hawk]

Depressed

It's fucked from the top down

I got so lucky in squad km in

[placid fiber]

at least you didn't say you were all mouth...

[copper hawk]

Anywayz no vent

[hard nexus]

military !

[copper hawk]

Run time!

[hard nexus]

alright baiii

[placid fiber]

man... I could really go for a puff, and I don't do weed

woke up with a really bad headache

[lunar fable]

I have a 103 fever rn

[placid fiber]

Oof

[lunar fable]

My head doesn't really hurt

Oddly enough

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-warhammer40000-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-13287986

[lunar fable]

All I did today was nap, eat, and play balatro because I didn't want to nap more

Or it would've messed up my sleep even more

[placid fiber]

That's what I did the week I had a sore throat + extreme tooth pain + really bad headaches(due to the tooth pain)... minus the playing any games(I watched youtube instead)

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-hammer-mhw-hammer-gif-4493981768275536792

[placid fiber]

man those antibiotics that I got sucked ass, cause they made me feel like shit

they worked tho

[placid fiber]

randos when they realize they have to deal with crushers:

[lunar fable]

Last night was miserable

[placid fiber]

I don't doubt it, a 103 fever is cooking your brain x.x

[lunar fable]

I had chills despite using 3 layers to sleep

And then I woke up in the middle of the night feeling super hot

But not sweaty

[placid fiber]

fevers are miserable

Sorry to hear you're going through one

[lunar fable]

I should probably go to sleep now

[placid fiber]

Good luck

Hope that shit clears up for you soon

[spare talon]

booted up an auric 3veg solo for kicks cuz i was bored
current servers put a stop to that REAL quick

[twin wagon]

Dodge spamming instead of sliding
Noobato gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/teasing-tease-tease-cat-teasing-cat-cat-gif-10083302078315721497

[vague depot]

Why sliding btw

[twin wagon]

Prolongs dodge distance

[frosty herald]

THAT ISNT EVEN MY GAMEPLAY

[twin wagon]

@))3&3€)6

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-rage-super-saiyan-gif-24000170

[vague depot]

Is it worth spending the extra dodge and are you still invul while sliding

[spare talon]

i dodge slide when i need to

[vague depot]

When do you need to

Does it let you sorta “slide” through a horde

Like when I’m swamped with bodies and a trapper is coming

[twin wagon]

Idk I see the dodge count be excessively negative

[frosty herald]

Why are the servers suddenly so ass?

[twin wagon]

Fatshark left office

So no one is doing the server reset manually

Which means the usual node degradation is taking place

[fiery plover]

Fatshark's server setup for Darktide must be quite bad for it to require a manual refresh every week to keep functioning. Don't see Vermintide 2 having this issue.

[twin wagon]

Ye coz vt2 is peer 2 peer

It's Fatshark, their set up is likely not bad but poorly done

[fiery plover]

Why not both?