#zealot-class
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I got diagnosed like... at 22 which was like 8 or 9 years ago
shred stinky
oh ur 31 aswell?
epic precog moment
Yes
wooh
I am older than death itself
doesn’t really have any way to get crits otherwise

piety
8
she wants martyrdom
damn
catastrophic
riposte?
7 here
real
😦
Ur 1 month older lol
dang
riposte vs shred is personal preference, but i think shred is better on ds5 due to the attack speed
shred falls off on miss so get Riposte
My wife has a cousin who is 1 month older than her
i forget you’re married
yee, ill try riposte and uncanny, since i think someone told me that uncanny is nearly a must on ds5 specially
I was married before darktide, which is why it's legal lol
yah it basically is
it is
sinc eits an overhead instead of stab
hai
need it for single target
10 years married lol
yaay ty
you’ll get embed perms after talking a bit
ooooo I see I see
kindah want to use the 50% strength, but then i wouldnt have an easy way of getting crits
unless, maybe if i'd go for backstab cdr instead of crit cdr, and rely on my F, to give me crits with the bleed thing i guess
but that sounds very finicky
THAT'S LITERALLY ME
I am best EULR....
great now theres 2 of them
u now have embed perms
fastest red role ive ever seen
yippeeee
Played zealot after playing purg psyker and it made me stupid
girl power or something idk man

I announced I was best EULR and I was rewarded
they just got them
girl power or is there a mod lurking here....
lol
ur too slow
SHOW YOURSELF
:EuleYippee:
that was really fast for a red role
and also, im sorry if u guys have already thought about all this and i just bring up old stuff again for the 500th time
what no nitro does to a mfer
fr fr

I was busy throwing my cat at my wife lol
hehe
imagine paying for nitro
i didn’t actually
a pookie of mine bought it
for me
just reverted to factory settings sorry
I got nitro for 2 months free a little over a month ago lol
you still have to give them your card details even if its a gift
If we were in the steppes I’d make you my boywife
i had the same thing but i didnt accept the gif t lmao

i didn’t
For that sentence
im pretty sure u do
hmm, since i do have the additional dodge, i could prolly do it with the backstab cdr, then use the atkspeed and an extra 5% crit on weapon to make it work
and then i'd have alot of dmg vs bosses n stuff aswell
backstab cdr kinda sucks unfortunately
relative to IoD
off to go become the avatar...
it’s got a 5 second internal cooldown
are you dedicated to martyrdom
yee, i find it very fun
hrm…
i have tried doin piety alot, and IJ alot though
@stone fern I found you a gf
You two can run Marty together


IJ is kindah fun, but since it has downtime it makes it feel worse
plus the lack of crit and less benefits than piety overall makes it feel clunky
piety is really strong, but boring
wat downtime
the point of marty isnt to live...
its to die....
🚬
I alway have max ij what da hell
the downtime between u getting stacks and hitting something
You’re not dodging enough
sometimes u want the extra dodge but u cant use it cause there's nothin to kill

oh i do, i used agile for quite some time because of it
It gives it to you by moving
It’s so over
yes, but u need to hit something for it to take effect no?
Yeah
u can take crit CDR on IJ
pretty easily
Agile bruh
oh im not trying to be super effective, i just want to be basically a fun version of handmaiden
and mandmaiden is agile and tanky
i think the nurgle followers make some good points, perhaps we should debate them in the great marketplace of ideas
hm, i wonder if i should take sustained assault, or go for like good balance or twbs
always take sustained assault
its a free 20% damage
post ur build
since youve got crit cdr
Not me you silly billy say that to the woman
u could drop that second chastise charge
don't you mean 25% since there's a 5% melee node above it? :3
true
and that's not counting the other 5% melee node on the zealot's tree
making 30% total
eh that build is fine as is
if u wanted twbs
or good balance
id say drop second chastise charge and one of the keystone modifiers
hm
because u already have really good attack speed with ds5, faithful frenzy, and chastise
that is true
ur just asking for carpal tunnel with your build lol
then again, who needs wrists nowadays?
oh if i would get carpal tunnel i'd have it by now
wrists are so last century
ive been playin fps games n stuff since 1999
In a vacuum Marty is the best keystone ever but you’re not a bot please use peity 

It can be fun
old
Piety is my least played keystone on zealot
I think I was playing warcraft 2 back then lol
hmm, wonder if twbs or good balance would be more beneficial overall
also old
in 98 I was having trouble swinging bowser around with my tiny ass thumbs lol
i played Unreal tournament 99 and Quake 3 Arena
I didn't play an fps until I was 14
Real lan party games right there
Heavens last stand 😎
yeees
Lucky, I got stuck with nintendo and whatever I could get on the pc(which was warcraft 2 and 3)
Warcraft 3 whips ass. Especially the expansion
The blood elf campaign is so good it's crazy
yee, my dad really liked the tech when i came to pc's, so i got one very early
I still remember windows 98 being better than windows 2000 lol
My first computer ever was a hand me down 98 laptop
At least it wasn't windows ME

Reject modernity, embrace windows 3.1
(I never had any issues with ME but I also only played a handful of old games on it)
It's like every other windows they made was shit
Every windows is shit
The menu music for unreal tournament 2003 is my wake up alarm tone
so what we thinkin, good balance or twbs?
Yes
They wrath be balanced
ill use one of em one match and another another match and see what works i guess
very helpful I know
When my boy asks if I want taco bell
When you tell your friends you can jump the fence:
What weapons?
also i have changed gender of my character cause agitator voice on male zealot is hot
ds 5 and laspistol
cheese and hot sauce
Agitator male sounds like a nerd to me I will not lie
I forget the name of the voice I have on my zealot. But the female voice is nice.
Not the endearing kind either
I got the whip
Probably good balance
Okay indiana jones
i like him, he sounds like he'd cuddle u
TWBS probably doesn't help a lot on DS
Then cut your throat if you ask for anything besides missionary
Hmm (for a second time), I think I will open zealout cha- 
I think he voice cracks in one of his chastise lines
I love using no gunner resist
I wish there was a zealot voice option that was like the paladin in Diablo 2.
Calm, collected, holy. A righteous fighter of God.
I know zealot isn't supposed to be like that tho so I get it.
no need for gunner res, if ur not in the wrong place no? 😉
You're not playing lore accurate zealot if you aren't in the wrong place constantly
^
You're never in the wrong place until you activate until death lol
Zealots without until death:
And then you are always in the wrong place until it's off cool down
yeah uh psykers don't have until death. psykers do the same thing. you are in the right place you just need to git gud
Realest shit I've ever heard
I swear
switch onto zealot for some casual pubbing after a week of playing psyker -> instantly zealotbrain straight into 3 reapers right at the start of mission and pop until death on the very first encounter
rest of the misison was pretty clean tho
Biggest pain point: trying to clutch then until death procs and right after, a mutant grabs you 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I don't take it anymore.
On one hand, at least I never get into wrong positions.
If anything, I just get to teleport ahead of everyone :)
Lmfak
i can't fuckin take this lmao
i get a chaos resist ring
and it rolls dex and accuracy rating
Or ur trappered and ur gettin eaten alive by poxwalkers
when i'm HP stacking summoner
until death should disable aids damage
they would never eat u to stinky
🙄
Clad, you're popular!
Tell dorn that a fish is not perpendicular to the cabbage
Good boy

I said yes to lethal later today
After playing havoc I could see forgoing it, but only if you stick to the cautious play style that havoc encourages
Especially going back to normal / auric board after learning to play carefully on havoc you may never need that shit
Me realizing I can survive gunners by diving into them again on non-havoc
I had the most perfect until death moment yesterday, I triggered it with almost nothing around and managed to find and melee kill a pox burster just before it ended so I healed from it while it tossed me away
He is secretly left shark
Scary game..
Woe, Alemoa upon ye
Full health and toughness to death without a down phase because your teammates are evil
And you got caught lacking one time
unironically
the worst scare was I was talking to a homeboy while we were walking in the dark
and I went face first into an un-aggro'd coilheads chest
we then promptly stared at each other for 10 seconds while I recovered from a heart attack
Hmm
No Alemoa is like siren ghost type folklore creature instead of haunting ghost type
sounds about right
Swagger is like
A compact version of Frisk spider verse version
Bro's two blocks stacked
Fisk not Frisk
trapped forever
1 megabean processor
NyanVidia
Its barked
idiot
Who wants a 4080 super
i dont speak that language
sometimes I get so excited when I think of The Emperor that a little bit of wee comes out, is this normal?

It'd be weird if it didn't
bunch of noobs
Who in zealot chat would be the best employee
whoever I can throw on a land mine or leave behind
Dorn
perfect I hate bald people
He loves landmines, loud items, stun grandes, and spray paint
worst shit ever happened in this map
saw my homeboy get taken by a bracken while there was a butler in the vicinity
and I had to wait for the elevator
needless to say I barely escaped london
This isn't jt
But look at that elevator
Jester and coil trapped cris
Dorn moment
"oh no"
havoc40 shotgunner kick
should I put shattering impact on the boltgun?
this is what shes drinking
They running an indoor weed farm
for brittleness against carapace and flack
should I put puncture on the bolt pistol too?
With Surgical 
Pinning is purty good over puncture too
The concept is that you deal good damage with a crit then the bleed finishes the job
Also usable
it's crit weakspot damage
you have to do both
for deadly accurate to proc
Yes
idk, tho, that reload speed is pretty high... you might reload before the enemies wombo combo you...

you wanna dump collateral but yea
that's the bolter
yea
You want to dump collateral now?
@placid fiber how was my gunslinger build BTW? 🤔
1 bolt less for bulwark shield opening which isn't viable strat anyways
that's all collat does for bolter
Haven't gotten a chance to try it yet, cuz I don't have a good kick back
I'll post that in my private dm channel tho so I can hopefully remember
no dump mobility
collateral makes u waste 2 more bullets before popping open a bulwark
or like wait 45 minutes for them to open
but thats too hard
Don't you mean 16 years?
I'll hopefully remember I have that build saved when I get a good kickback
ballpark 10 months dont lie!!1
It just feels like 16 years lol
just wait till they swing then blast their face
ihave
no
mobility would help you dodge back in that scenario
fixed yet another computer woe
i refuse to wait
the 5 bulwarks stacked on top of eachother:
wasting 5 ammo to do no damage
or i can just swap to melee
then collat wouldn't help anyways lol
cause they will all block for eachother before you break them enoguh
then why do you need bolter for bulwarks
also
comfort
because i hate bulwarks
the fuckin, vaal area is laggnig my game so bad
tfw you use 1/3rd of your magazine to open up a shield
yes
I think flamer would do more against 5 bulwarks since it might burn 1 at least
i hate bulwarks not because its easy but because its hard
You do like hard things don- wait...
yes
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TF2 COMIC UPDATE !!!!!
no fuckin way
they finally continued the comic lmaoo
hi darkpilled
okay like i know i just time traveled far into past but i really think they should have tried talking to me
like, at this point it's self defense
goddamn this comic is long
This is legit the 1st gif that came up lol
like i know i'm bringing an army of skeletons, 5 of which have grenades
but c'mon your empire is known for undead constructs and blood sacrifice
be a little considerate
keeel
KEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-
it is a bit ironic that the 1st gif that popped up from searching the word "murder" is a mlp gif lol
GL
Anyone who violates the nap deserves death
i am worried for my companion tho she's a descendant of these people lol
i'm going to kill a boss and she will just fade away
that's tomorrow bandit's problem
Tbf they're pretty fucked up
kinda gathered that from this lol
Me going to work every day in America

no not mine
I love single handedly burning entire nations to the ground
my companion, but she's just a treasure hunting gal
I know
I knew who you meant lol
I might be dense, but, I'm not that dense <.<
usually... >.>'
are you in cruel? or are you still in normal mode @fleet zealot
normal
Kinda feels like being a hamster in a ball careening towards a staircase
Shadman...
braint elling me to get spicy cheese curds
ur lyin no way
Part 7
On Foenem !
on malachor
On skibidi
What character options are best?
wdym? like the personalities?
Yes
Some personalities have unique voice lines for certain weapons
All the options
I made a lvl 1 character who's a fanatic
The other options don't seem to matter as much I chose shrineguard and stuff
fanatic has great flamer voicelines
I think I'll stick with that I hear male judge sounds cool
fanatics are flamers, judges thunder hammers, and i forgot the agitator
judge has some thammer voicelines, those are the only 2 i know of
chain weapons
thanks
I tried flamer and it wasn't fun us it just me
For zealot, agitator has them for the eviscerators. Judge has them for thunder hammers. Fanatic has them for flamers
joho jsut ghyvui
All chains? I thought it was evi only
no clue
when tyr told me about it a year and a half ago i think he said chain weapons
It sucks ass at low level and gets better as enemy horde density increases at higher difficulties
yea flamer is very much a max level weapon
Probably correct then, I'm just regurgitating stuff I've heard here, like all my opinions 
the lower stuff it has, it dramatically gets worse, comparred to toher weaposn
well even at low levels, flamer staggers hordes enough to basically perma CC them until dead
Oh I did notice the stagger was good the dmg wasn't for me
Who puffs the flamer tho for reals
If I gotta wait through that whole draw animation I'm shooting a whole tank in braced mode 
Even if it's just to blind the vet
Flamethrower look cool
Which voice dips their chocolate chip cookies in ranch
Nuh uh
im eating everything in my medicine cabinet
Nothing to be silly for in my baka chungus life
i cannot take it
Lol
hey whats a good blessing set to have on the spearhead bolter
Shattering puncture for zealot
Now I'm curious if he would dip ranch chip cookies in chocolate
Only if it's enough to cover up the taste of chocolate
Maybe white chocolate for him then so he can pretend it's sour cream
We also learned he constantly burns his mouth because he can't wait for food to cooldown
He considers quesadillas "sweaty food"
Lmao what is he even eating that isn't already cold, everything he's shown looks like it's sat out and reached room temp ages ago from the mashed potato soup to the ice cream soup
Why do this when you could make cookies from them first and dip them in ranch
Ibuprofen chip cookies are a timeless holiday classic
But they don't hit like the NyQuil jelly centered ones do
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FD interviewing a lady who looks at the camera and says, "people say prostitution is the oldest profession. It's not. It's farming," is so funny to me
Flamethrower should be a heat gen weapon like the relic blade
Hey, are there any perks that add good breakpoints to the relic blade?
Pins
And yes
Thanks
I look like this
Crash out then lock in
any others?
Huh... a beaver biting a tarantula
That's it rlly
so the other blessing can be anything else?
yeah that's pretty much all zealot uses
It’s the best thing to run on it
Shattering Impact and Puncture
i accidentally did this one
I mean yeah it doesn’t really have bad blessings but if you’re looking to get the best ones it’s shattering impact and puncture
Now do true survivor
thansk i added them on
Ziiiigh..
yaa ill just need a decent team :3
No wound zealots in my havocs! 
It’d be better to run crit chours
Zealot is good for that
Nah gotta drag absolute shitters from party finder through it
pfft ill have enough atkspeed to make 25% crit become 55% most of the time

Yeah the gunners are gonna love you
Having a party finder random team clear it with me felt like watching the 1 in 100,000 monkeys writing Shakespeare
pfft
I hate party finder creatures
And that one max wound smite psyker my team carried one time
He had the BEST blessings on his staff
grass?
based
Focused channeling and run and gun or something like that
Do you stink good?
sometimes.
Touch burger
lesbiabs
Burger .
or well, one straight and one lesb
Love this gif
just realized there was a 2nd person covered up by the burger in this lol
LMFAO
rip baby
i am not looking forward to replaying this campaign ngl
it's, really fuckin long maps for early campaign
50 hour campaign my ass
lol my cat likes american cheese
I jokingly said cheese and shoved it in her face, then she started licking it
something like that lol
😄
Nah it sucks
I can't give my cat cheese shell probably spray shit everywhere
I didn't let mine eat any of it, she just licked it
Considering a different brand of wet food gives her mad diarrhea
when I put cat cheese into google I got this lol
When you Google stuff it's always super on the cautious side
Yeah
uncle google is hit and miss
just not a whole block? lol
American cheese not so much, but particularly something like aged cheddar
i mean
As cheese ages it naturally loses its lactose
american cheese is bad for people >.>
so probably even worse for cats
Nah actually it's not great for adult cats
Just got kicked, griefer was blowing up poxbursters and barrels next to me, so i said to kick him, and i get kicked....
Same deal they can't deal with the lactose so it fucks up their tummy
ern like
As kittens it's different, but really shouldn't be giving an adult cat milk
Sad people are so toxic on this game
I give mine a tiny shred worth when I'm prepping something with it and it doesn't seem to bother her thankfully
Maybe get a better team then smh
Iain never got an asshole in my match, and I only ever hit quickplay
isnt that how you build up tolerance to lactose
Haha could be
Not proven but theoretically
If only that worked for me too
isnt there a research on that
Gotta get on that step up cheese plan
And it's like you gotta consume a lot of milk for that
its the poison thing all over again
Yeah, but it was pretty inconclusive
just drink stronger poison along the line
I eat the cheese flavored poison every time
it's almost like experimenting on people is hit or miss
I shoot myself with .22lr to build up a tolerance to 5.56
if i remenber it has some effect but not a major effect
i mean if i get shot and have a hole
theres nothing to shoot at there
blood:
It's usually something that can be figured out, this particular one is pretty indeterminate, it's really just person-to-person
You might be able to build a tolerance but your brother can't, yk
skimmed milk for a week
omg
i have hit sleeper cell status
bro be too much a lite weight for cheese
did someone say
so you can get 1 shot?
got cucked by a bot when he revives me while Im literally under fire from a reaper
I used to be pretty lactose intolerant but I just ignored it and now I'm fine unless I drink like 3 cups of milk
I be eatin cheese tho
3 cups of milk + lactose intolerant = a bad day lol
eh imagine not being able to enjoy milk
i love me a coco milk
I mean, that 3 cups of milk won't fuck me up too bad it'll just be liquid shit and a tummy ache
speaking of soda
only it's more up to extreme stomach pain

live milk soda reaction
I don't know lmao I don't really like milk that much so I don't make a habit of drinking it
Not sure what I was expecting lol
fair
god i need get a emergency whip cream in a can
WHICH IS A REAL THING
like sandwhich in a can
I grew up on a dairy farm so I went from drinking approx 2 litres of milk in a day to if i buy a bottle it expires before I'm halfway through it
That's like my soda misadventures... I used to drink sometimes 2 2liters in a day, now I barely drink 1 cup a week
I have a monster pretty much every morning, and will usually buy a big bottle to last the week
Yeah that's fair, to be fair though soda here isn't corn syrup
It's not great regardless, but murican shit is especially bad
Yeah
Yall ain't got no food you can eat that's healthy lmao
You guys were like "We have soda that's bad for you" and america was like "hold my beer"
even our salads are hit or miss
makes a healthy salad ......... dumps 2 gallons of ranch dressing in it
I'm sure there's healthy food out there somewhere in america, just nowhere local lol
I should call him…
I love people counting calories and complaining they can't lose weight but they aren't factoring in the 1500 calories worth of condiments they use
Hmm (for a third time), I think I will open zealout cha- 
(can you people PLEASE stop mentally flashbanging me)
I'm going to flay you.
the eep
Why is she drinking again she’s already had one glass
shes thirsty
Understandable, missing every single guiding bolt is bound to work up a thirst
Inexorable Judgement: Does the damage buff apply to the damage that triggered it?
CAUGHT! RED HANDED!! HE'S GETTING AWAY WITH THE IPAD!!!
no
hmmm good to know for one shot thunderhammer memes
Grape flavored anything fucking sucks ass I'd rather eat rat poison
Except for grape gatorade
Grape flavoured alcohol
Also known as wine
You might be stupid.
Yeah wine falls under the category of sucks ass
You might be wrong
Is this any good
The only flavor worse than grape is peach
It's about the best you'll get unless you want to nitpick everything
Just use it, it's soulsucking to minmax shit for 1 extra dps
Lmfao fair enough
Energy leakage is bad but otherwise it's a good sword.
It only hits 20% power when your heat goes past 90%.
I would do cranial grounding instead.
why are you asking when we all know ur just gonna find out and tell us
uh because i'm not and i'm just gonna let you wonder :v
pretty sure it gives cleave, crit damage, weakspot damage
don't got time for dat
i used a decimator brutal rashad in the dark days before the crafting patch
it was not bad
Strength (used to be called power) increases damage, cleave & stagger proportionally in multiplicative order to their normal increases
Quick! A Veteran! Get the barrels!

oh wait that smykers
damage, stagger, cleave
that multiplies with damage bonuses
I know why I don't lose weight, I'm a snacker
granted I don't really need to lose weight
I be at a healthy weight for the first time in my life
I've always been super underweight
I just eat nothing but a protein bar until like 8pm and then I have a larger than average dinner
If I wake up starving ill have something extra tho
I snack on whole boxes of cheez its in a day sometimes lol
I don't really snack but if I'm in the mood I'll get a bag of doritos or a box of crackers and just demolish it
if I ate healthy I'd probably be underweight >.>
If I ate healthy I'd definitely be underweight
Until about a year ago I was sitting at like 5% body fat perpetually
Probably not even that
If I sat and bent down my stomach wouldn't make any creases
idk mine, but, I had the slightest bit of fat on my stomach
I had 0
Probably at my peak of fitness I weighed 90kg, <5% body fat, at 5'11
uh kg... 2.2 x 90 = 180 + 18 = 198
why do we want wrath on mk15 evis instead of SS again?
pounds
Yeah something like that
You don't
unless that's a havoc thing
Im going on year old info
it has like 10 cleave on lights
take wrath over ss
I use rampage and shred
unless there's something about wrath on havoc specifically, my bet is that it's still the same
They should do a darktide/helldivers crossover just to be funny I want to see an ogryn pop out of a hellpod
does this mean its harder to proc ss on all the light sweeps?
the lights only damage up to 4 targets(6 on revved lights) for the mk15 eviscerator
Beast of nurgle with the bugs
no it means you're getting almost no value out of that extra cleave
because past the 4th target hit, you are doing no damage
poxwalkers have like... 1.5 hit mass
whereas rampage is giving you power which is damage, cleave, and stagger
and shred is giving crit (I forgot what bloodthirsty does)
@hard nexus Wanna help me school this scrub in the ways of the eviscerator? lol
Meow is the resident eviscerator expert
more cleave on mk15 doesn't give you more dmg, just more stagger on the targets past 4
^
bloodthirsty is guaranteed crit after rev attacks
can use to chain rev attacks against packs of elites and shit
for what
mk15 or mk3
mk15
or i guess I just use the fury charge instead of bloodthirsty
any buff really
been so long since i used evisc
yah chastise will
I'm just in the school of knowing things for when the resident experts are away(but I have adhd lol)
troo
you be about to start a war mate
if you aren’t running crits then no
fair
yea, but in havoc context no reason to not build piety if u run evicerator tbh
well
evis
in havoc
is rough
it’s very rough
I know
is trolling in the wrong hands?
basically yes
is trolling in like 90% situations lol
DS4 is still just cringe and broken
spit your shit indeed
ds4 is funny in my hands cuz I can't unlock its full potential(cuz my aim sucks)
so it's just powerful
and not op x.x
i unironically think relic blade is stronger than ds4
probably when the ds4 is in my hands lol
you can just do some shenanigans with the ds4
Let him cook, I think he's onto something
a revelation
I think both weapons have areas of expertise is the thing
the ds4 just has broken af dodges
i'd argue relic blade is pretty comparable to ds. DS still has better ST baseline, but I think relic blade makes up for it by the ease with which you can do everything
Yeah
Thing literally mulches, armor, bosses, and chaff at the same rate, which is really fast
faster, when it comes to chaff I think
ds4 might light attack fast... but doesn't kill them very fast
much much faster when it comes to horde clear, relic blade clears DS
yeah even on my marty attack speed for the lulz build on heresy it doesn't clear trash that fast
I'd have to throw unarmored with flak to even come close
this was fun
I think DS still wins in a purpose built havoc premade
maybe, but, the ds has a stronger baseline I'd say
once you power the relic blade... it's a toss up
and with the dueling sword you need more precision I'd say
when you're lacking in precision, like I am, the weapons start to become more equal
If you have a trauma/Purgatus sweeping all trash an elite demolisher performs better
yea if you already have your horde clear taken care of by others, then DS as the single target can opener makes the most sense
Yep
If you throw in mixed hordes the ds starts to fall off more at the speed at which it mulches stuff
but if you're doing regular stuff and need to be able to do everything, relic blade I feel is genuinely our strongest general purpose weapon now
I have still had 0 issues with the dodges im gonna be honest
With how powerful it is, I don't really either
I dunno if it's cuz I got used to it from before
I've just never felt much of a problem
If you're used to dodging stuff then it just requires a little bit of adjustment compared to bigger dodge weapons
if you're a noob... ur gonna get rekt lul

my early days of flamer/thammer have come full circle
there are no dodges I cannot adapt to
dodges into trapper net
I have adapted to thammer dodges as well, relic dodges are not going to be an issue when I start using the weapon more
How the agitator felt after killing an entire hab-block full of people
Once you have thammer dodged... and ogryn shield dodged... you're ready for pretty much everything lol
I need to get back to using crucis some more because bonk has a certain satisfaction
but man I'm having a hard time putting down crusader sword
I still gotta try crucis on havoc
same
anyone got a thunder hammer build?
I feel like the boss frequency would make it worth
You guys have a decent one? All I have is a marty one
hammer doesn't really need a specific build, can pick IJ or marty for your keystone
just don't ever take it during moebian 21st
you'll be swinging for days 
I just did my first level 4 threat mission and holy is it fun
oh yeah that would be awful
As long as you aren't using piety... you're on the right track for the thammer
Would run outta flamer juice in minutes
I can send pictures now
it does, even on malice x.x
no wait lemme tell you bout my super secret arcane crit hammer tech
I was doing 21st mobian runs back when it was an event
desperation instead of holy revenant?
I'm actually not sure why it's like that I'm gonna swap that now
and no scourge? 🤔
I mean you don't need holy revenant
the thammer isn't a crit weapon
hammer does not benefit from crit
Yeah I'm not really planning on critting much with that build
build hammer on base dmg only
just no point in trying to fish for BIG powered up crits, right
that's why desperation is actually pretty good
better have a steady source of dmg?
desperation is pretty decent for the thammer yeah
desperation on hammer is great because free 20% dmg, you're gonna be utilizing the PA with some frequency anyways
there's a reason piety is the worst keystone for the thammer <.<
and 20% dmg on special bonk is realll nice
I... almost never push attack on the thammer <.<
no point in fishing for crits with hammer at all
There are a lot of other bad choices on the hammer itself so this may be misleading 
if you inspect a weapon you can see a dmg table that breaks down all attack dmg on all enemy types
true
Yeah the thammer crit multipliers are too doodoo to care about at all
with desperation and thrust you're getting 1.2 x 1.6 damage not including anything else
Even with the Ironhelm finesse change with the hammer buffs
it's kind of a dmg buff you can activate whenever you need a lil oomph too
also i heard pious cut-throat isnt that good? and better to take swift certainity instead?
I believe with 3 marty stacks and desperation I can reach mauler light attack 1 tap bp instead of having to go down to 4-5 stacks
this is untrue
whoever told you this is a controlled agent peddling deception


