zealot-class

[hybrid jewel]

Big insect hulks that will crush you.

[twin wagon]

At best it'd turn like cyberpunk 2077 in it's "imply"
Also wizards of the coast is gonna come knocking down because you are using dnd like orcs/elves

[sterile stone]

Is it like the armored lizard thing you fight in the underdark

[twin wagon]

At worst, we got another big flop

[frosty herald]

Shadowrun has magic

[twin wagon]

Regular magic and technomagic

[hybrid jewel]

They super simplified it, but we still take 1 week to make chars. Considering I tend to either be 1 line background or an entire world building.

[frosty herald]

So thats already its own unique thing instead of being a cyberpunk red copy

[buoyant pecan]

The way it uses magic is kinda how cyberpunk uses tech

[twin wagon]

Magic system? Sounds like it's ripping off dnd, send in the lawyers

[visual stream]

Nah that's a bulette

[obsidian prairie]

This is why LANCER is amazing

[twin wagon]

A bulette is a bovid, not a lizard, allegedly, idk 2nd edition lore was a trip

[hybrid jewel]

More robo you get, less magic you have.

[buoyant pecan]

Send in the corporate kill team to harass their families

[obsidian prairie]

They can’t do shit

[visual stream]

I'm pretty sure both are pretty stupid creatures though

Bulette probably dumber

[fleet zealot]

this person doesn't go to the underdark

[sterile stone]

I haven't played the game in a while

Go away

[twin wagon]

Sounds like the cyberpsychosis value, send in the OTHER LAWYERS

[buoyant pecan]

Same energy as "Do you go to the cloud district?"

[drowsy steppe]

im darky..

[buoyant pecan]

"Of course not look at you."

[sterile stone]

Darcy

[visual stream]

This fellow didn't grow up in Menzobarranzan

Imagine

[twin wagon]

Darcy alt

[copper hawk]

darcy...

DARRRCY !!!

[hybrid jewel]

https://www.aidedd.org/dnd/monstres.php?vo=umber-hulk

[sterile stone]

The Darcy programming begins again boys

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[obsidian prairie]

My dumb ass stanced up with dual wielded daedric artifacts and armor that costs more than the entirety of whiterun hold

[twin wagon]

But somehow
Lord Darcy returned

[buoyant pecan]

If you are of a noble background and a dark elf, Minthara will casually flex her Noble heritage and how it's BETTER than yours

[sterile stone]

So I ask this

Can I ressurect it as a spore druid

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/manslayer-game-pussies-gif-9555626

[hybrid jewel]

Depends on DM. If I was, yes if you high enough lvl

[drowsy steppe]

my fantasies about minthara cannot be spoken loudly

[sterile stone]

We ballin

Ngl I kinda want to get a bg3 run of just swashbucklers

[hybrid jewel]

And you roleplay a dooking mushroom controller type druid.

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/balling-jarl-skyrim-jarl-ballin-swag-gif-5013919

[sterile stone]

See how a pirate crew would hit different

[fleet zealot]

it also depends cause like

[drowsy steppe]

gamerpoop skyrim is such a good series.

[fleet zealot]

umber hulks can't control their confusing gaze

so if you rez one

[sterile stone]

Wait I know I'm not the most knowledgable of DnD

[delicate shadow]

this was the peak of comedy for a time

[hybrid jewel]

Cos personally, fun>>>rules.

[fleet zealot]

you gotta keep it on a 35 foot pole

[sterile stone]

But isn't moon druid the most powerful out of all the sub classes?

For druid

[twin wagon]

Nowadays? No

5.5 sucks for druid wild shapes

[hybrid jewel]

And I will homebrew dook if it makes it more fun.

[drowsy steppe]

we are MEN. MANLY MEN

[fleet zealot]

i don't care for best specs that's why my characters are lore bard

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-gamer-poop-manly-men2-the-helicopter-skyrim-gamer-poop-helicopter-gravitate-that-helicopter-gif-25703079

[fleet zealot]

and then the ferretkin gloomstalker ranger+twilight cleric

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-gamer-poop-manly-men2-the-helicopter-skyrim-gamer-poop-helicopter-gravitate-that-helicopter-gif-25703079

[hybrid jewel]

Tank girls came from someone asking to play a tank tanking tank.

[sterile stone]

I'ma be honest

[fleet zealot]

tho

[sterile stone]

When it came to DnD all I honestly was told that

Conquest paladin is the easy win class

[fleet zealot]

no the secret OP class

[twin wagon]

Winning dnd

[fleet zealot]

is war cleric

they are just better paladins

[buoyant pecan]

God man I remember sitting in the bus enroute to middle school watching gamerpoop on yt with my friend. Good times

[fleet zealot]

they aren't limited by oath and have way better spellcasting

[twin wagon]

Mathematically, peace cleric is still broken

[fleet zealot]

that to

[hearty nebula]

Clerics are just disgustingly strong. They have been for forever now, basically

[hybrid jewel]

9th lvl spells included.

[fleet zealot]

cleric is busted

it's a running joke that clerics ruin the balance of dnd cause either they are useless healbots or an armed and armored super caster

[twin wagon]

Druids crying in a corner over wild shape nerfs
Clerics remaining unchanged:

[sterile stone]

Yeah but isn't pally's entire thing just

SMITE

[twin wagon]

Not anymore

[fleet zealot]

clerics also get smite

or well

[twin wagon]

5.5 limits smites

[fleet zealot]

smite-lite

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-l-jackson-shocked-excuse-me-sam-jackson-what-gif-15938455

[twin wagon]

"I cast INFLICT WOUNDS SMITE"

[hearty nebula]

isn't the warlock the one who smites alot

i forgor

[fleet zealot]

divine strike at level 8

[fleet zealot]

hexblade yes

[sterile stone]

They added that to the game

[fleet zealot]

other warlock subclasses, even with pact of blade, can't get smites naturally

[hearty nebula]

idk i dont play DnD

well

[buoyant pecan]

Yea I thought about that once.

How a cleric can just tank an entire encounter, easily, or healslu_...healbot the traumatic experience of last fight away

[fleet zealot]

warlock you pick your patron and the nature of your pact

[hearty nebula]

i played it once for like 3 sessions and then we ended the campaign because i chewed out our DM for saying some rather unsavoury things :3c

[twin wagon]

5.5 allows pact of the blade warlocks to also get pact of the chain
My man is just a better ranger with beastcompanion

[fleet zealot]

usually hexblade and pact of blade go hand in hand

but some UAs have been able to make non hexblade blade pacts more attractive with new eldritch invocations

[hybrid jewel]

Have a fun DM who lets you smite on crossbow. Also fun DM giving you bonuses to using a ballista cos big crossbow. I shoot dragon thing with smite ballista.

[obsidian prairie]

I like that they made them invocations

[buoyant pecan]

Why wouldn't this be a thing anyway, wotc

[hearty nebula]

we did not have a fun DM

[sterile stone]

@delicate shadow Can you please to go sweden and tell Larian to add Artificer

[hearty nebula]

he was incredibly inflexible all things considered

[sterile stone]

I wanna have guns and cannons

[fleet zealot]

i mean, my dm is letting me use a UA spell-less paladin and letting me do the tiny 1d4 extra radiant damage on my crossbow when it says melee only

[hearty nebula]

improv skills were like

[hybrid jewel]

And somehow, I still get lifesteal from the smite.

[hearty nebula]

actually kind of dogshit

[hybrid jewel]

Fun.

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-kendrick-kendrick-lamar-not-like-us-gif-17139725945846535931

[fleet zealot]

i wish they made spell-less paladin and ranger an official thing cause i like the class fantasy but some of my characters the spellcasting jsut doesn't make sense

we did have to filter some of the auras tho

[hybrid jewel]

Honestly might be better to just leave.

[tepid sorrel]

hello fellow crackheads

[hearty nebula]

#zealot-class message

[fleet zealot]

some were, weak but that's reasonable, I can have one up at a time and it starts at 10 ft range, like 5ft extra movement

but then there was

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/window-jump-jump-out-window-escape-gif-13847937

[hearty nebula]

hello stinkass :3c

[fleet zealot]

1d4+charisma modifier heal per round

and that

i said no to that

before my DM did

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/pumba-pumbaa-gravel-grovel-majesty-gif-10944762

[fleet zealot]

cause that also breaks out of combat healing

as well as just the hp combat economy

[hybrid jewel]

Just burn spellslots for memes. Bonus if DM lets you burn everything. All or nothing BOOM.

[fleet zealot]

i just want a paladin that is more like, an inquisitor

powered by their faith and oath but not, channeling radiant magic into spells

[twin wagon]

DM, can I rage as I fall down? My character hates high speeds

[fleet zealot]

same with ranger

[hybrid jewel]

Ah. Yeah, sounds like a bad DM.

[hearty nebula]

just say you worship the god of "i fucking hate dumbcunts"

[fleet zealot]

yea some dms are just cancer that's why i play with friends

[hearty nebula]

yeah

[sterile stone]

Stack a ton of crates

[hearty nebula]

i know

i was there

💀

[sterile stone]

Owlbear from the top ropes

[hybrid jewel]

1 turn rage granted if you take fall damage.

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/owlbear-we-wipe-here-baldurs-gate-3-flattened-enhanced-leap-gif-12569555187195589503

[obsidian prairie]

We need more depiction of paladin power being just the oath and not oath to a god

[fleet zealot]

like biggest red flag, is really narrowing the allowed race pool

like i get narrowing down your fantasy but if you say no half elves no half orcs

that's a massive red flag

[hearty nebula]

mang

[obsidian prairie]

I think 5.5 annihilated those anyway

[hearty nebula]

why don't coop games come with friends

:(

[twin wagon]

It may make sense to not have warforged in some settings, because they are very poorly written and are better homebrewed

[hybrid jewel]

Sadly, good DMs are rare. I'm better at writing the world behind stuff when not lazy as all dook.

[buoyant pecan]

Because back when co op games were invented, there was no way to avoid communicating with the other players

[twin wagon]

I'm good at making maps and design encounter/puzzles
That's where my qualities end

[hearty nebula]

idk

[frosty herald]

No unique racial bonuses

[fleet zealot]

cause hot take, logically if the species could interbreed, there would be a ton of mixed species people running around

[frosty herald]

Orcs are now green humans

[hearty nebula]

maybe i need to do that like thing people do and just make a server for myself

[hybrid jewel]

I only play co-op cos of GF, pub games just are either the best or the worst.

[fleet zealot]

they remain in flavor

[hearty nebula]

and invite friends to it so i can drag them into playing stuff with me

[obsidian prairie]

#general-chat message

[twin wagon]

I mean species are still distinct, but the +1/+2 is now background related

which is a copy paste of shadowrun

[obsidian prairie]

I also like this

Much nicer

[twin wagon]

Makes more sense too

[obsidian prairie]

Race/class lock always felt weird

[hybrid jewel]

A friend had to balance the dook I wrote lul.

[tepid sorrel]

hiiii

[fleet zealot]

i still think for some races, the 5.5e rules don't work

[buoyant pecan]

Just drag your friends into your hobbies or join groups already in the hobby/game and slowly poison them into playing it

[twin wagon]

OOF

[hearty nebula]

i try

[fleet zealot]

mostly for aquatic races x land races

[hearty nebula]

unfortunately im like

that guy apparently

[drowsy steppe]

I havent gotten around on that artificer mod

[sterile stone]

Frog people like Gith

[twin wagon]

Aquatic races are barely relevant because no one runs pirate adventures

[sterile stone]

It's interesting I'll say that.

A bit over powered

[twin wagon]

I had to make a total of 28 ship maps in my entire map making experience, almost nothing

[sterile stone]

But interesting

[fleet zealot]

normally the halfbreeds of those will be able to live in both land and sea normally, but now in 5.5e it's a 50/50 whether you can breath air or water

[hybrid jewel]

Lets just say, you let me balance only the worst performing stuff. I will make them the star for the day somehow.

[fleet zealot]

my bard is literally in a pirate campaign

😢

[twin wagon]

IMPOSBIEL, in this day and age?

[gleaming cape]

“5E removed [thing I like]”

Ye olde house-rules:

[hearty nebula]

I wonder if it'd be possible to do a zealot chat regulars DND campaign someday, one-shot or smth

I think I'd be down for that but I have to learn the game and I'm lazy

lol

[hybrid jewel]

Play fighter, no think, just bonk. And double bonk.

[hearty nebula]

No

Fighter lameo

[buoyant pecan]

That's my idea

[obsidian prairie]

There’s so much cool stuff lost to time

[sterile stone]

We almost had this up and running.

[gleaming cape]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[obsidian prairie]

Like skill challenges

[twin wagon]

I still don't know why 5.5 doesn't allow paladins to smite more than once per turn

[obsidian prairie]

Skill challenges are really neat

[sterile stone]

There's a website for it and everything to host it

[twin wagon]

Like...paladins using all their spell slots on their first encounter is a classic

why limit that

[sterile stone]

Just didn't have enough people at the time

[hybrid jewel]

Then enjoy the maths of spells and slots and uses and and and

[fleet zealot]

just play hexblade /j

[twin wagon]

Roll20?/DnD beyond?

[twin wagon]

NO

WARLOCK BAD

[sterile stone]

I think it was dnd beyond

[gleaming cape]

DnD is best when the DM alters the rules based on what the players enjoy

[hybrid jewel]

Then you die because a rat snuck up on you and critted your hp bar away.

[hearty nebula]

I can do the math and stuff, I had struggled with it for a very long time actually because I lacked visual information of how dicerolls work

[hybrid jewel]

Don't ask.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-we-have-a-true-get-this-man-a-true-true-gif-8856917097123019081

[gleaming cape]

https://tenor.com/view/guidlines-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hector-babossa-georffrey-rush-gif-7844913

[buoyant pecan]

The God infused sorcerer being upset that my Human Fighter who thinks the Gods are weak and unworthy of worship, can one shot things just as easily as they can.

[twin wagon]

I made the boss fight a puzzle boss fight because my party skipped my puzzle by just breaking through the wall

[hybrid jewel]

I rolled so poorly on Con.

[sterile stone]

It should be fun but also a challenge imo

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[sterile stone]

Can't have a party steam roll the content

[hearty nebula]

Like I watched someone play a bit of DnD irl and before that I had zero clue how dice rolls actually worked

but when I saw them make a roll

im just like

"OH THATS HOW IT WORKS OK"

[fleet zealot]

my wednesday dm i actually made a bit sad cause his last 2 bosses were celestials

[hearty nebula]

it just clicked

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/@LegendsofAvantris

[hearty nebula]

no im not going to watch more of it

[hybrid jewel]

Ah. Use roll20 if lazy. It automates everything. There's a third party addon that makes it even better.

[sterile stone]

These dudes are an amazing watch

[gleaming cape]

My brain refuses to remember how rolls work

[hearty nebula]

i hate watching people play rpg's of any sort

because i'm a fucking snob about them lol

[fleet zealot]

and i had already picked celestial as my greater favored enemy before we learned who and what the bbeg is

so

[gleaming cape]

My brain is allergic to pen and paper games

[fleet zealot]

i got 2 crits on the last boss and that basically sealed the deal

[gleaming cape]

But I still like them

[sterile stone]

Ngl I fel this way about turn based games

[fleet zealot]

and i'm just a fuckin

small sized ferretkin

[sterile stone]

Til I actually took time to actually play them

[hearty nebula]

Same for the longest time

[sterile stone]

Is fun

[gleaming cape]

I am not good at those either lol

[hearty nebula]

And then I played Chrono Trigger

Chrono Trigger my utmost beloved

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-cat-silly-cat-cat-sticking-tongue-out-gif-12332973546502369976

[fleet zealot]

meanwhile i think the monk ANGEL (using aasimar as a baseline) hit 0 times againt the final boss

[tepid sorrel]

unlock your brain

[gleaming cape]

In DnD I invest all my effort into getting into character. I’m going to voice act and you’re gonna like it

[tepid sorrel]

open yourself to new and enjoyable experiences

[fleet zealot]

imagine being a fuckin dark angel, about to ascend to a chaos god

and you get stabbed to death by a ferretkin

[twin wagon]

Unlock brain, bloodbowl, suffer snake eyes

https://tenor.com/view/blood-bowl-blood-bowl-gif-21992396

[hybrid jewel]

Funny thing is, I never read the player's handbook cos they cost like $140 here offline.

[gleaming cape]

I’m not against them, I’m just untalented in that situation

[obsidian prairie]

Getting shanked by a fucking fur scarf

[tepid sorrel]

talent has nothing to do with it

[hybrid jewel]

Let alone the DM's guide.

[tepid sorrel]

you don't get better at games without playing them

[fleet zealot]

me spending weeks on writing the parents to have a believable relationship

[twin wagon]

There's online pdfs for the low low price of FREE
Wizards of the Coast has an issue similar to games workshop where they try to ignore that their market is slowly crumbling

[gleaming cape]

I never said I don’t play them

[hybrid jewel]

I know, questionable sources.

Or I ask my DM friend for them, I guess.

[tepid sorrel]

ultimately it's all mathematics

[twin wagon]

It's not questionable, they have, in a rather dumb way, released all their content officially for free, if a friend, a whale friend of yours buys it, you have access to it in your campaigns, even if they ain't the dm

[fleet zealot]

2 crits + i was becoming the god of winter at this point cause that was the 2nd to last boss, so i got some buff+all the other swings connected, gloomstalker opener is busted

[hybrid jewel]

Eh?

[twin wagon]

I have access to every, single, book released in dnd beyond because a friend bought it all

[obsidian prairie]

I have access to them because I work at a game store and can get them cheap

[twin wagon]

Yes it includes the waterdeep heist that everyone does a tutorial with

[hybrid jewel]

Oh, that.

[fleet zealot]

the penultimate boss fight was harder than the final boss

it just be like that

[obsidian prairie]

Or literally just

Open a for sale copy and take a picture of what I need

Not like this shit is sealed in any way

[hybrid jewel]

I cast eldritch blast for 63 damage.

[fleet zealot]

do not download pdfs you didn't pay for

[obsidian prairie]

This is just an RPG’s moment

[hearty nebula]

hmmmm

[twin wagon]

This

[fleet zealot]

and uhh, don't download a sheet that is full of all the official sources, premade campaign stuff, and even some UA in it

that will make filling out your character much easier

i wonder if i should drop it and risk getting executed by the mods

nahh

wotc didn't make this and my friend did pay for us to get it

[gleaming cape]

I’m very bad with math. It gives me anxiety, and I struggle to visualize equations. I typically need my fingers to keep on track.

[hybrid jewel]

They seal them here cos ppl ripped them doing that. I found a 40k Dark Crusade one half wrecked for $160.

[gleaming cape]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

Me irl

[hybrid jewel]

They won't even discount them lul.

[fleet zealot]

https://www.flapkan.com/ here support these cool people if you like dnd but hate wotc

[obsidian prairie]

I work in second hand as well as actual order from publisher retail

[fleet zealot]

no shame in using your phone as a calculator or even using a dice roller

that counts for you

[drowsy steppe]

theres online dice calcs

[hybrid jewel]

The upcharge is probs retailer thing for physical copy.

[fleet zealot]

if someone shames you for not using real dice tell them to buy you some

[gleaming cape]

Ye I take advantage of those

[hybrid jewel]

It's a big hardcover.

[sterile stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6uwj5Ix7qg

[obsidian prairie]

You know I literally forgot the second half of that message

Fuck

[gleaming cape]

A friend actually bought me a set once. Very thoughtful, they’re quite stylish.

[hybrid jewel]

Just use free online dices.

You think one site is off, there's 10 others.

[obsidian prairie]

I’ve got some nice metals

[tidal berry]

isn't the DM supposed to bring the dice anyway?

[hybrid jewel]

Just stream your rolls.

[gleaming cape]

I do. I’m not saying this stuff to complain.

[buoyant pecan]

If they're nice.

[obsidian prairie]

And a set of 20 d6’s that were a limited run based on stuff from a book series

[frozen glen]

woe curse of dm's girlfriend upon ye

favoritism is afoot

[hybrid jewel]

Naw, when I was dating one, I got left out the most.

[gleaming cape]

They can, but it’s typically considered polite to come prepared. But ideally you’d be playing with friends who are cool with pooling tools.

[frozen glen]

woe dnd player sexism upon ye

[buoyant pecan]

The DM trying desperately to not live up to the stereotype

Lives up to another stereotype

[twin wagon]

Going into a new-ish dnd meeting and not bringing dice is like asking to borrow dice for 40k tabletop

bad

[gleaming cape]

More players win win

[twin wagon]

be better, bring dice (and food)

[hybrid jewel]

I don't care, everyone suffered my... I show up, delete boss, go back to corner.

[rocky nacelle]

cool havoc 40

[gleaming cape]

What’s everyone’s favorite zealot personality

[obsidian prairie]

I play a fem agitator

[twin wagon]

I just realised, someone made the darktide maps in dungeon scrawl
Which means that you could technically play tabletop darktide with some homebrewing

[hybrid jewel]

Or I show up, everyone gets 3 actions and buff, hides again.

[obsidian prairie]

Mostly cause they are underepresented

But they also silly

[spare talon]

is this one of those videos that just showed up for everyone

[gleaming cape]

Not me

[buoyant pecan]

Judge

[hybrid jewel]

Eh, gender charmander. Is D&D.

[tidal berry]

The way I used to do was it would be hosted on my place, DM brings dice(we just had a giant bag of them) and game stuff and players bring snacks, drinks etc

[hearty nebula]

no

[tidal berry]

Idk just makes sense the dice stays with the guy who actually hosts the thing yknow, no DM no point in the dice

[gleaming cape]

Sounds cozy

[tepid sorrel]

i'm crazy

[gleaming cape]

Logical

[frozen glen]

shut the fuck up ancient

[tidal berry]

It was, been like, 4 years since I last played

[hybrid jewel]

Scottish lady, but she needs to swear more and be less understandable.

[tepid sorrel]

man fuck you redverse i can't have SHIT

[frozen glen]

maybe kill the government how bout that

[gleaming cape]

what

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280595238829690900/1318508674297233428/cachedVideo.mov?ex=67629464&is=676142e4&hm=39b2b181076996b902aea3806701c13d3cc1a152d8c6e6da55d5181a01e825b1&

the grubz..

they've arrived,,

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-sunny-alcohol-pizza-gif-21168395

[tepid sorrel]

don't u have some alcohol to drink cica

[hybrid jewel]

Eh. Some just like collecting fancy dices. Who knows.

[copper hawk]

TROO

i already

drank

some

.

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I can tell

[tepid sorrel]

it shows

[frozen glen]

i love

cAPTIN MOrgan

[buoyant pecan]

You should slow down on that.

[obsidian prairie]

I could tell an hour ago

[twin wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949409590976593960/1318417143322378291/caption.gif?ex=67623f25&is=6760eda5&hm=2c75f2e29a68730261c9e95c40f0a0d5c1ecd51a0fe4c5cc50706a389ddc5aba&

[obsidian prairie]

3 separate lasers on that

[tepid sorrel]

dead spacing it

[buoyant pecan]

Making sure the hip fire hits

[tidal berry]

All these co-op games and not a single one adds a DS laser cutter

[copper hawk]

I dont like captan morna

Morgan.

I dont like run

Rum

[tepid sorrel]

what do you drink cica

[frozen glen]

i need the ds laser cutter in helldivers

[buoyant pecan]

Is Deadspace under Sony?

[copper hawk]

It's gross,,

[buoyant pecan]

If so, Helldivers may get one

[obsidian prairie]

EA

[tepid sorrel]

dead space is not under sony

[obsidian prairie]

Hell

[buoyant pecan]

Like they're getting Helghast armor

[copper hawk]

Snoy

[buoyant pecan]

Damn

[copper hawk]

Sony..

[hybrid jewel]

But but but, DRG has funny op electro cutter thingie.

[delicate shadow]

Killzone 3 my beloved

[copper hawk]

Spillzone

[tepid sorrel]

killzone in general my beloved

[gleaming cape]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-ish-gif-18153162

[obsidian prairie]

I have no idea what that is

[buoyant pecan]

But yea, the community is aware that Helldivers is getting Hellghast Armor

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/helghast-killzone-playstation-gif-26657662

[frozen glen]

they're adding titans from the hit titan game where titans fall apex legends

[gleaming cape]

Peakzone 3

[obsidian prairie]

Alright those were symetrical

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-flag-killzone-helghan-flag-wave-killzone-1-hd-killzone-ps3-gif-18348692822425566654

[copper hawk]

Smellghast

[tidal berry]

kekzone 3 will save gayming

[obsidian prairie]

And had a conceivable reason to exist

[delicate shadow]

amazing game

[copper hawk]

I mayn redownload war thunder..

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-saric-helghast-killzone-killzone-shadowfall-prisoner-exchange-gif-14493496507400092828

[obsidian prairie]

I assumed that but be specific

[tidal berry]

as a kid I used to be hyped for that game

[buoyant pecan]

Warthunder is evil.

[tidal berry]

and then I learned its a PS exlusive

[copper hawk]

TROO

[tidal berry]

therefore kekzone

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-sci-fi-gif-22227770

[copper hawk]

It's fun 2 play while yipsy

Tipsy

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-destroy-it-break-it-gif-16208497

[twin wagon]

Strategy games with friends taking a shot everytime a unit dies

[tepid sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-liberation-killzone-helghast-flag-killzone-game-killzone-killzone-helghan-flag-gif-1037429636361051591

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-ring-no-isildur-lord-of-the-rings-gif-5743603

[twin wagon]

Specially funny for stellaris and age of wonders

[tidal berry]

its ok tho helldivers will have a knock-off killzone vibed warbond and I'll be content with that

[tepid sorrel]

"knock-off killzone vibed warbond"

no it straight up is just killzone

[copper hawk]

Yah okay grublord

[tidal berry]

now that I think about it

[tepid sorrel]

here hold on

[tidal berry]

they're both snoy IPs

[copper hawk]

Whatever u zay,,,

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-no-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-crying-gif-17568970

[copper hawk]

Oh srry i mean

Gr*b

[delicate shadow]

so it's like early 2000s FPS but with a surprisingly subversive anti-war narrative with lots of grey and it has really smooth gunplay and visceral melee

[copper hawk]

Hehehe,,

[tepid sorrel]

cica i understand you need a new source of attention

but i think therapy is a better choice

[copper hawk]

I dont need attention

[obsidian prairie]

Oh it’s a 2000’s shooter say no more

[copper hawk]

Im an nco , i get evil attentuon every day !

[delicate shadow]

"sci-fi" setting but it's weirdly reminiscent of GWOT era tech but in space

[tidal berry]

I dont think warthunder is a good therapy alternative

sounds more like the opposite

[tepid sorrel]

did u make sgt yet

[buoyant pecan]

No like it's literally an almost 1 to 1 of the helghast armor

[copper hawk]

Warthunder therapy alternative is aweaome

[royal vortex]

i have 200 hours in warthunder and i don't remember anything but getting exceptionally mad at it

[copper hawk]

Yah

A bit ago

[tepid sorrel]

nice im proud of you

[copper hawk]

So e5ful..

Thankz ancient.. my sworn enemigo..

[delicate shadow]

I tried war thunder once and I really didn't get the hype

[frozen glen]

about 0.5% of the amount youve put into paradox games

[tepid sorrel]

are you still thinking about getting out of MPs

[hearty nebula]

there is no hype

[copper hawk]

U were not ensnared

The snail didnt claim u

[hearty nebula]

it's a game people get into because they see youtuber mcguy or one of their friends play it

[buoyant pecan]

I really liked planes and tanks and was excited to kill German players

[royal vortex]

smaller, inferior josho did not turn hearts of iron 4 off

[hearty nebula]

and then they basically just get sucked in & eventually it's just like

[umbral kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-24843255

[hearty nebula]

stockholme syndrome from there on

[frozen glen]

is the smaller inferior josho in the room with us now

[royal vortex]

he is long gone

if there was multiple of me everyone would be worse off for it

[tidal berry]

platform exclusivity claims another victim

[delicate shadow]

I mean...it's a very small list lol

[buoyant pecan]

This is literally what I did to my friends when it came to Xbox but we had that one Premium at the time 5.0 or 4.0 Sherman looking tank

[obsidian prairie]

That is fucking gross what is that

[tepid sorrel]

brother take it backj

[buoyant pecan]

And man running that as a pack was halirious

[tepid sorrel]

take it back NOW.. . . .

[copper hawk]

Just died

[obsidian prairie]

It’s a fucked up famas

With like

[copper hawk]

Mby i shouldt play hunt drunk

[obsidian prairie]

2 possible places for a magazine

Both being tubes

[delicate shadow]

it's a famas but with a helical drum mag

[buoyant pecan]

Its a copy paste with different colors

[obsidian prairie]

I though it was a weird ass Bizon for a second

[hearty nebula]

im so fucking excited for the killzone warbond

[buoyant pecan]

Now will the GL work?

[hearty nebula]

it's gonna be straight heat

[gleaming cape]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/stalker/images/9/94/Tunder_S14_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20230604191940

[obsidian prairie]

The revenge of the fucking French is eternal

[obsidian prairie]

That’s an A-91

[delicate shadow]

because in killzone they might not have figured out laser guns but they DID figure out helical drums that actually work

[buoyant pecan]

Australians when left to their own devices...

[tidal berry]

that looks more like a torch than a GL to me

[hearty nebula]

I'm so disappointed with the armor passive for killzone armors though

[delicate shadow]

wtf you can't just credit us with russian madness

[tidal berry]

I actually like how this looks

but then, I also kinda liked famas too

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-believe-me-just-watch-gif-18089658

[hearty nebula]

"let's take the 3 worst armor passives in the game, make them even worse, and combine them all into one"

[median steeple]

Don't care looks drippy

[buoyant pecan]

I mean the Gas one is great

[tidal berry]

what is it

[gleaming cape]

Peakzone 3 theme hits different

[tepid sorrel]

doesn't have one but it'd be cool if it did have its underbarrel options available

like the kz1 one had a shotgun

[hearty nebula]

50% damage reduction for fire, gas, and lightning damage

[buoyant pecan]

50% resistance to gas, thermic, fire.

[tidal berry]

blergh

why do they keep doing this lmao

[lean lark]

which is great for illuminates

[tepid sorrel]

it's actually really useful

[hearty nebula]

no

not really

[median steeple]

Which fire and lightning (especially for squids) is pretty decent

[buoyant pecan]

The Illuminates all do thermic damage

[tepid sorrel]

yes, yes really

[hearty nebula]

because i can just not fucking stand in fire

or not stand in gas

[tepid sorrel]

source: the fucking illuminates

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[buoyant pecan]

If you equipment the gas armors and then that Heart booster

You are immune to gas dot

[hearty nebula]

you mean the two whole enemy units capable of lightning damage

[rocky nacelle]

real

[tidal berry]

there are like, two enemies that do zap attack, and both are really close range you'd have to go out of your way to get killed by them

[hearty nebula]

^

[obsidian prairie]

And the pylon

[gleaming cape]

Killzone 3 melee kills went hard

[obsidian prairie]

Fuck the pylon

[median steeple]

Or you know the fucking Tesla towers the illuminate have that can hide under debris

[hearty nebula]

that's because heart booster actually just gives you flat DR iirc

[obsidian prairie]

Random ass lamp that just decides to kill you

[buoyant pecan]

Man...the rest of the Illuminate line up is gonna eat you

[tepid sorrel]

well there's the pylon + the various other units with lightning attacks they'll be adding

[median steeple]

Bring on the council members baby

[tepid sorrel]

like, the ones that were already datamined and returning units from hd1

[buoyant pecan]

In gonna keep rocking my Gas Armor and calling gas on myself so the melee horde can suck it

[hearty nebula]

and is the rest of this illuminate line up in the room with us right now?

[tepid sorrel]

yes actually

[lean lark]

it's not like passives matter that much anyways, it's just neat buffs to armors. I only run what looks good and heavy armors

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[tidal berry]

yeah yeah and beam weapons will be so OP once illuminate drops. Same yapping for near a year now

[obsidian prairie]

I think we actually have all the lightning shit fielded

[hearty nebula]

the primary one sucks

but i tried laser cannon earlier today

[obsidian prairie]

They’d need to add new stuff

[median steeple]

Beam weapons like the laser cannon? Which is pretty damn great

[hearty nebula]

and it's actually not bad for getting rid of the units that aren't voteless

[obsidian prairie]

Otherwise it’s just shields fucky controls and railguns

[tepid sorrel]

nah there's two other units that had arc attacks

[frozen glen]

the new +mag and reload speed armor is so nice for the rounds reload shotguns

[tepid sorrel]

iirc

[tidal berry]

cool you can strip shields really fast with them

[hearty nebula]

not right now, unless you're counting their tesla towers

[tidal berry]

which, the MG also does

[buoyant pecan]

No one said beam weapons that weren't strategms would be great, massive cope or you were mis informed.
The real goated primary weapons are the high rate of fire ones that melt shields

[obsidian prairie]

I thought it was just tripods

[twin wagon]

hd2 is a bad coop shooter, but a good cinematic experience

[frozen glen]

the armor also adds a mag to support weapons idk if its intended

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-used-to-be-believable-baited-jebaited-bait-i-got-jebaited-gif-1296286127798996733

[obsidian prairie]

And maybe their big fuck but goodness knows we ain’t seeing that fucker

[tidal berry]

its a spectacle game

[hearty nebula]

i think it isn't intended but i'll be sad if they fix it

[gleaming cape]

What is HD2

[hearty nebula]

smelldivers 2

[buoyant pecan]

Helldivers 2

[gleaming cape]

Haven’t played

[tidal berry]

makes MG pretty busted

[median steeple]

We might but it's also possible we get new enemy types as well

[hearty nebula]

Using it with the stalwart is like

actually hilarious

I love it

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah but I hope they remaster the old first

I want my rave faction back

[tidal berry]

it also makes HMG sorta viable without a supply pack but I have a slight suspicion this will get nuked

[hearty nebula]

HMG is still ass with it imo

I just do not enjoy that weapon whatsoever

[obsidian prairie]

Critical lack of will be lethal in 5 seconds laser on screen

[tidal berry]

in fact I think so lowly of HMG there are times where I just bring the stationary one instead if I dont want a backpack

[lean lark]

"stop resisting"

[buoyant pecan]

No peak physique

[hearty nebula]

HMG emplacement is goated

Unironically

[tidal berry]

it is

HMG just never recovered from those durable nerfs lmao

[obsidian prairie]

Still mad you can still kill everything with the basic ass machine gun (in illuminates)

[hearty nebula]

Peak Physique is broken (as in non-functional) anyways with melee weapons right now anyways

[median steeple]

No it works

[buoyant pecan]

Press your melee button

[median steeple]

You have to use the melee key

[hearty nebula]

Only if you use the melee button

which

[buoyant pecan]

Not your shoot button

[hearty nebula]

kind of defeats the purpose

[buoyant pecan]

That's the bug

[lean lark]

me with my heavy military commando armor flexing on the illuminates as I spearfish the walker

[gleaming cape]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/swat-meme-gif-18623260

Literally this

[hearty nebula]

I hope they increase the spear's attack speed a little bit

[buoyant pecan]

That's literally the depths of the bug.
I will continue to do ridiculous melee damage to things by pressing F

[hearty nebula]

right now it's just a worse pick than the baton

[tepid sorrel]

it really isn't

[obsidian prairie]

The baton made me sad

[buoyant pecan]

They could have given it a sweep

[tepid sorrel]

a sweep attack woulda been cool tho

[buoyant pecan]

Stab, sweep. Stab

[hearty nebula]

Baton hits more enemies at once way easier & also has a much faster attack speed

[obsidian prairie]

Or have it sweep in hipfire and stab in ADS

[buoyant pecan]

I was walking through a horde of illuminate Zombies the other day

[hearty nebula]

I'd be down for this

Hopefully though they make the new shield like block melee combatants from walking through

[spare talon]

this h40 wanted us dead

[hearty nebula]

I'd love that

it'd make spear way more viable (and cooler)

[gleaming cape]

How do you all feel about ghost recon wildlands

[hearty nebula]

my friend played it and it looked like an open world "game"

[obsidian prairie]

Chat instantly slain

[hearty nebula]

that's my thoughts on it

[gleaming cape]

I loved it, but it definitely could have been a lot better

[fleet zealot]

i can't slep

[hearty nebula]

concussive therapy time

:3c

[tepid sorrel]

return to slumber

[fleet zealot]

yay

[buoyant pecan]

I feel like directional shield was added for Botdivers to stop running into missles

[fleet zealot]

my mind is going 100 miles an hour

[tepid sorrel]

or suffer the consequences (sleep deprivation)

[buoyant pecan]

And crying that missles deal damage

[gleaming cape]

Listen to some Uncle Iroh wisdom compilations

[obsidian prairie]

Directional one of the old ones

[tepid sorrel]

have you tried beating the anxiety out of your brain functions

[obsidian prairie]

They made it so much bigger

[fleet zealot]

actually i'm listening to kendrick

[buoyant pecan]

Other people do this better

[obsidian prairie]

Flamer and spear were the only truly new things there

[copper hawk]

Opooohg

[median steeple]

Good morning sleepy head

[obsidian prairie]

AT emplacement was old, directional was old

[copper hawk]

Noobz..

[obsidian prairie]

I still kinda hate how AT emplacement looks

It’s so goofy

[rocky nacelle]

hi cica

[copper hawk]

SLUDG3 upon u

Hi para

[median steeple]

You hate me

[copper hawk]

Nop

I appreciate u vry much ,,

[median steeple]

Never responded to my Brainrot

[copper hawk]

:3

U slimerot

Hunt showdown..

[median steeple]

I'm not alone

Slims

Slime

I'm solid

[rocky nacelle]

psycho

what if we got ate by jeff ult in marvel rivals

[median steeple]

Augh

[rocky nacelle]

😳

[misty mason]

wew found a pug to do havoc 37

[median steeple]

I'm Ryan Gosling

[rocky nacelle]

hes not in the game

[gleaming cape]

“Baldurs Gate 3 is amazing”

Baldurs Gate 3 writing:

Also you’re gonna get banned lol

[copper hawk]

VORE

[obsidian prairie]

This is zealot chat

We ball in this bitch

Take yo sensitive ass back to vet chat

[buoyant pecan]

I looked at it and thought
Wow this looks exactly like a gun they'd give the US Airborne if we had the technology

[rocky nacelle]

i wouldnt expect you 2 say that of all peeplo........................

cause its your WEAKNESS

i send jeff the shark after you now

[copper hawk]

I fuck8jg hste

[copper hawk]

That stupid

Shark

[median steeple]

This is like the second time this has been posted

[rocky nacelle]

one of satans greatest soldiers

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/O-fno7BBerU?si=v9l1exOfnePDNLCm

[copper hawk]

If i had the opportunity 2 rip that being to shreds irl i would

[median steeple]

And worse has been said

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-jeff-the-killer-marvel-rivals-jeff-creepypasta-gif-15236913529913017341

[copper hawk]

Jeff the Klan Shark

[fleet zealot]

now none of you can sleep too

[median steeple]

Jeff the Klan shark vs the iron Fuhrer

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[gleaming cape]

Walter if he was actually badass

[rocky nacelle]

haha walter wweeedd.

awesome.

[buoyant pecan]

Jeff has made me into a Loki Player

[copper hawk]

Loki the twink..

[rocky nacelle]

speaking of twinks

TWINKTOR LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

terrible.

[buoyant pecan]

Steal his ult, use it when he spits team. Save team.
Spit Jeff off map

[copper hawk]

League of Legens

[median steeple]

Viktorrrr

[rocky nacelle]

twinktorrrrrr

[copper hawk]

We not , care

[rocky nacelle]

what r u doing twinktorrrrrrrr

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/viktor-league-of-legends-lol-viktor-lol-viktor-arcane-gif-6350010811784075067

[copper hawk]

Yaaaaaaawnnnnnnn

[copper hawk]

YAAAAAW2WWWWWWN

[buoyant pecan]

They made Viktor look like Hwei

[rocky nacelle]

ok i get it

[copper hawk]

Now i not in grubcord

I free of , league

[rocky nacelle]

yam wanted to spam 30 invites

and i told him no

[copper hawk]

Good

[copper hawk]

I not rejoining

Never

NWVER !

[median steeple]

Pre please

[copper hawk]

Nop

[buoyant pecan]

How could they do this to Viktor

[rocky nacelle]

cica please

[copper hawk]

We have gc

Rember

[rocky nacelle]

well psycho good for u

[fleet zealot]

i need some longbottom bitches in my life

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-clear-sky-clear-sky-monolith-monolith-exo-gif-13594799489985857333

[gleaming cape]

Monolith , monolith

[frosty herald]

Sending you 300 invites

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

all I will say is catching up on chat has been an experience

[copper hawk]

Never

Under any circumstance

S

[buoyant pecan]

Stay strong, it's gonna get worse

[misty mason]

So the assist assignment for havoc

Is that just be in the party rather than leading?

[twin wagon]

is badly designed

and we should know who designed it in fatshark and tell them to please not do it for Vermintide 40000

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1315419986826887230/hey-girl.gif

discord logs are always peak content

[delicate shadow]

I feel like there are moments where I'm reading cuneiform script instead of english

[lean lark]

If it's not your personal assignment it's assisting

[royal vortex]

my favorite game to play is picking a random message out of the pile and responding with zero context

[misty mason]

So yeah be not the leader?

[twin wagon]

I feel bad for all the times I wrote my message in Tiktok brainrot

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/crackbert3.gif

[misty mason]

𓂸

boooo

doesnt work

[lean lark]

yes

[royal vortex]

You are making an enemy of me.

[twin wagon]

Cole careful, Josho will remember this

https://tenor.com/view/jack-what-the-hell-is-that-tftbl-game-cinematic-gif-9117043

[copper hawk]

too drunk for hunt showdown

[rocky nacelle]

dont drink 2 much buster

lite as a kite

[median steeple]

Gonna start talking in Sumerian

Oneday

[misty mason]

Praise AnKi and Enki

[hearty nebula]

noob,...

[frosty herald]

Cica takes a swig of smirnoff and hes under the table

[buoyant pecan]

By this point in his alcoholic career. I'm certain smirnoff would simply hydrate him

[hearty nebula]

true

[fleet zealot]

Just like me fr

[ornate bone]

Hey is something going on with the audio? I can barely hear specials anymore

Like I used to be able to hear them spawn

Now I'm only knowing they're there visually

[hearty nebula]

this is a known issue

[rocky nacelle]

ur a known issue

[fleet zealot]

#theorycrafting message

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-cooper-bbt-sleep-i-dont-need-sleep-gif-5115394

Is fatshark actually cooking something with the 3 dreg leadership

Was the tox flamer aware of the future plot this whole time

[fleet zealot]

Try messing with your audio settings, turn spatial sound on or off, don’t use auto select/default device for anything always manually select, and change to dynamic low

Those are the fixes i’ve heard that work for others

The dynamic low change is what did it for me

[copper hawk]

Q

[copper hawk]

Known issue

Get the mod Spidey Sense

Till they fix the prolific audio bugs

[twin wagon]

I think it's better to get the one that simply warns on enemy spawn

Instead of pin point their location 24/7

[hearty nebula]

yipee

got enough supa creds for killzone warbond :3c no more farming until that drops

[buoyant pecan]

The farm is eternal

[undone pewter]

500 level 3 missions

[hearty nebula]

nah

only about 20 i think

[copper hawk]

The flarm

Is egernal

[undone pewter]

I think I did like 10-12 for the new warbord

Pretty fun to use the spear with the armour that buffs melee damage

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-trunks-broly-happy-marriage-anniversary-gif-27263610

Ill let u play on my switch pookie bear <3

[twin wagon]

Knife is bad at horde clear

So many people are suggesting knife to players are causing wipes because they don't deal damage due to the weapons skill floor.

[misty nova]

Yeah

[twin wagon]

Big damage go boom, yes

But people really expect pub players to backstab weakspot hit enemies

lmao

They will put lacerate on iy

spam lights on hordes

and be happy

(while not been relevant to the other pub teamates)

[hybrid jewel]

Better just suggest DS4. Same thing but better, yes?

[twin wagon]

Honestly, yes

Atleast it's marginally better on light spam against hordes

I just think new players should be trying crushers, evis, greatswords

[hybrid jewel]

Also the inf dodge safety net lul.

[twin wagon]

And when they are settled get into sword/knife

[hybrid jewel]

GL with everything else lmao.

[twin wagon]

Skipping the middle step is creating some...creatures

Dclaw, hsword don't exist

[hybrid jewel]

Dclaw just feels weird, the only thing is the parry.

[twin wagon]

Caxe is a good contender
Chaxe is only for the chosen ones
Everyone collectively forgor about shock maul outside of psyker

[hybrid jewel]

Like, the light feels worse than knife somehow?

[twin wagon]

yes

[hybrid jewel]

Naw, tazer stick on my recon vet is funny.

Also, why psyker when there's legit DS4 and stroke sword 2 win?

Demios/Illisi specifically.

Especially with the buffed Illisi dodge.

My god, friendship with Illisi rekindled.

[heady quail]

I have a want for the Thunder Hammer. Anything I need to know? Talents? Blessings? Perks? Optimal Combos? Mark?

[queen oyster]

Nah go combat knife learn movement and win

[heady quail]

Already did

[undone pewter]

Crucis usually best pick for thunder hammer... ing
Flak unyielding I think is the perk combo (someone will check me on that)
Headtaker thrust
Dump defence

[frosty herald]

Exe stance flamer🗣️

[undone pewter]

"Laugh this off"
Everything too far away

[hard nexus]

crucius,
slaughterer thrust
carapace unyielding

unyielding can be swapped to flak if you take purge the unclean and don’t mind losing a bit of boss kill

[undone pewter]

Does ironhelm even have a niche anymore

[heady quail]

What about how to use the Thunder Hammer in combat, combos and such?

[hard nexus]

heavies for hordes, lights for small elite packs, take greivous wounds to stagger ragers out of combo, empowered L1 can one shot a bulwark with buffs up

take IJ

[misty nova]

Better Eviscerator

[undone pewter]

Huge!

[heady quail]

What about the weapon special?

[misty nova]

(meow is listening)

[hard nexus]

the horde clear on the ironhelm is better, but crucius is still good enough, with the lights on crucius now being pretty good

[hard nexus]

that’s what i called empowered

use empowered for ogryns, bosses, maulers

empowered l1 can one tap ragers with some buffs up i believe

[heady quail]

How do I open Bulwarks? Use s.L1?

[hard nexus]

yes

someone read path’s guide

lmfao

[heady quail]

So basically Crucis is just 2h hammer from VT2?

[hard nexus]

not just basically

it’s the exact same move set

lmfao

[heady quail]

Who?

[hard nexus]

you said s.L1, a term i’ve only seen in path’s guide, the guide pinned in vet chat

[heady quail]

Ah. I understand

[hard nexus]

but overall yes

special for large targets

smaller elites like shotgunners, gunners,

just light attack

the lights are really strong now

[heady quail]

😋

[hard nexus]

perfect

[heady quail]

How do you use Thrust? Just charge and wait for full stacks?

[hard nexus]

oh, +carapace lets you one shot a crusher with an empowered heavy with just thrust and 1 other buff (duelist, couple IJ stacks, sustained assault, slaughterer, etc.)

[hard nexus]

yes

you don’t have to wait the full time

you can watch the stacks in the buff bar

and once it hits 3, you can let the attack fly

your heavy immediately after your special is an overhead heavy

[heady quail]

Should I have Enduring Faith on IJ builds?

[hard nexus]

doesn’t deal more damage, just easier to hit targets

[hard nexus]

if you aren’t pathing for crits

no

[heady quail]

Who paths for crits with IJ

[hard nexus]

dclaw builds

[spare talon]

Knife, dclaw, evis

[hard nexus]

some evis builds

yah

weapons with a crit blessing

basically

can do it

[heady quail]

So Zealot has more than two builds not counting Support pathing?

[hard nexus]

because crits let you take invocation of death, a very strong CDR ability

[hard nexus]

zealot has basically 2 builds when it comes to talents

with slight variations

[heady quail]

Who puts IJ on knife

[hard nexus]

here

brain rot upon ye

[spare talon]

Me

[hard nexus]

yellow is build dependent

purple is main path

[heady quail]

You made a mistake

[hard nexus]

i did not

[heady quail]

You highlighted Martyrdom

[hard nexus]

martyrdom is entirely viable

it’s not as bad as people say

[spare talon]

I just don't like it at all

[hard nexus]

i don’t play it often

but it’s not an awful option

[misty nova]

🔫

Hold up

I need a better outburst

[heady quail]

How is it not awful?

[misty nova]

There

[hard nexus]

a whole lot of damage, attack speed, and tankiness

[misty nova]

High melee damage, attack speed and TDR

[frosty herald]

Erm

Stuns have better pathinf

It was revealed to me in a dream

[heady quail]

You just described IJ

[misty nova]

Yeah right

Because IJ 15% damage and attack speed compares to martyrdom 40% melee damage 20% attack speed

As a martyrdom enjoyer, IJ sucks

[spare talon]

Ij has less investment and also dodge buffs in exchange tho

[hard nexus]

IJ is a better option

but martyrdom is fine enough

[drowsy steppe]

martyrdom 🤢

[river jackal]

Martyrdom has a very high cost for what is comparably a lackluster reward in relation to all of the effort going in

Both other keystones kind of blow it out of the water in that regard

[potent gate]

Is it really a high cost though

Cost implies something spent

Just don't get hit then you never need to see why your spent hp matters

Therefore martyrdom is meta and if you think otherwise, you're bad

[misty nova]

3 stacks of Martyrdom is all you need to surpass IJ regarding damage and attack speed

[river jackal]

I mean you're substituting your curios, and if you're gonna tell me you take 0 damage in an entire Havoc 40 run I'd like to see some evidence lmao

Just don't get hit is a stupid argument

Like meme tier argument

[misty nova]

So do get hit

That's kinda what martyrdom likes

[river jackal]

Tbh only thing I ever witness with martyrdom teammates is picking them up off the floor

Chip damage goes kinda wild when you only have 5hp

Can't really truly avoid chip in high Havoc because your toughness is 1 tap at full bar lmao

Chorus prevents that which is sort of why it's king in Havoc rn

As well as ludicrous cc on tap 24/7

But with marty

Only needs you to not have chorus once in a bad spot and you're cooked

Which is why Piety & Invocation of Death stays winning

[misty nova]

Yeah Piety finesse shenanigans and whatever still winning

But martyrdom vs IJ

Martyrdom sweep

[red swift]

Martyr has been pretty fun to run for me lately

Big downside is that it takes more talent points than usual though

[tight fog]

martyrdom doesn't buff Ur dodges

And buffed dodges is sickkk

[red swift]

And IJ actually buffs your ranged weap too

[tight fog]

Lets you dodge into crushers more frequently which s always poggers

Yeah and you have to take shit curios with martyr

[red swift]

Martyr still based though

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-rainbow-star-gif-16754399

[potent gate]

0 health damage is not that big a deal. Gold toughness being spammed every 0.32 seconds sort of makes you invincible when a smyker with a bubble jerks off in the corner with their ukulele

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299472118827974707/1318586647721414697/tumblr_308302752b1cda5d40e7eb846c5add8f_7ecc37f5_640.webp

[lament blaze]

Nerf book

[grizzled aspen]

This is a hilarious argument.

Martyrdom is fun, not meta.

Meta is stalwart piety.

[potent gate]

That's the thing. If you're not having fun well...have you even meta girl?

[grizzled aspen]

No, Frog is afraid of women.