zealot-class

[normal wren]

You cant see his moves

[placid fiber]

I'd rather not get bench pressed

[gusty siren]

could you explain me why this combination on the Bolt Pistol and a few recommendations for the second blessing?

[sterile basalt]

For Boltgun
Carapace + unyielding
Puncture + shattering impact

Learn to use throwing knives

[haughty haven]

I drop reload on agripeenis

[gusty siren]

thanks
and for the bolt pistol?

[grand tangle]

I still think knives should be a vet thing and zealot should have gotten an incense debuff bomb

[spare dome]

nah not a bomb

just a stick of incense

[grand tangle]

Smoke cloud that debuffs enemies moving through it

[spare dome]

zealots would love it

aromatic and calming

its great!

[grand tangle]

Exactly why it bothers the heretic so much

[spare dome]

wave it around, make smoke circles

[sterile basalt]

Maniac + flak
Puncture + Run&gun?

[grand tangle]

I use proximity and runngun so I can sprint at groups of shooter while firing blind and still suppress them all

It works

[valid burrow]

Fire grenade and flamer need a buff

[grand tangle]

Use BP with runngun to close the gap to shooters and gunners, proximity makes it better in that role

[placid fiber]

flamer is op, lol

[grand tangle]

Flamer is op in its one single use

[placid fiber]

fire grenade could use it

[grand tangle]

And literally useless in most other cases

[placid fiber]

you mean monsters, elite groups, mixed hordes?

[grand tangle]

Monsters?

It's mid at best vs monsters

[gusty siren]

thanks

[grand tangle]

Compared to what is actually good vs monsters

[haughty haven]

What is actually good vs monsters usually takes a build to go with it

Flamer just requires flamer

[grand tangle]

But yeah flamer is op when you are facing hordes with elites in them

[grand tangle]

I suppose? But magdumping a bolter into a monsters head does big numbers if you have shattering

Melee vs bosses requires a build usually afaik

Idk I just feel magdumping a bolter is gonna get you further faster than a flamer

All else being equal

[haughty haven]

Yee but bolter don't do great on mixed hordes. Flamer op lol

The only thing it doesn't really exceed at is when there's just one or two dudes in front of you or they're far away

[placid fiber]

Meh, it does require 2 mags for a spawn I guess

[north sedge]

Flamer does alot of unyielding dmg, it's just not instant

[valid burrow]

Emperor himself was able to conquer Terra, Mars, Galaxy and be betrayed while im still taking flamer out and bracing it

[haughty haven]

Can't you spool it up faster by doing the funny tap thing?

Like the burn stacks when bossing

[valid burrow]

Boss damage is good

but really bosses arent a problem in most cases

[placid fiber]

Yeah, takes a bit to cook a plague ogryn

[north sedge]

Flamer is good at everything, always has been

[lunar fable]

[normal wren]

Rip flamer charge

[placid fiber]

I mostly just use the flamer for burgles and bulwarks

[valid burrow]

you are sitting duck with it. Its slow af to use. Clip is small but cleave is good af

[ornate bone]

Need 3 stun grenade zealots for shocking stuff penance

[valid burrow]

and that "Slow" is everything, because if there is no one to keep your from getting shredded - you are toast yourself

[placid fiber]

sitting duck...? When you have tknives backing it up? lol

[valid burrow]

Oh! Big bad horde! Lets take 3 second brake, im pulling out my flamer

[placid fiber]

Who's using a flamer for horde clear unironically?

I just use my melee for horde clear

crucis thammer? melee. ds4? melee. knife? melee

[north sedge]

What's reaching you when it's all dead

[placid fiber]

When you do ^

plus you can also chastise into the front people while pulling it out lol

lol I spawned like 40 poxwalkers and melted them in like 10 ammo

Feels like such a waste tho to use the flamer on hordes, imo

[grand tangle]

I've never seen this happen before and that's much faster than I thought, but bolter with shattering still seems better to me

That flamer vs bosses seems perfectly valid tho

[placid fiber]

That's with the 20% unyielding talent, 25% unyielding perk, t4 blaze away, and t4 overpressure

and a combat stim at the start

My flamer is built for 1 job. Killing the things that are just annoying to deal with i.e.: bulwarks and burgles lol

[valid burrow]

Burgles?

[placid fiber]

beast of nurgles

[grand tangle]

Beast of nurgle

[placid fiber]

Other then that... I usually forget I have the flamer with the ds4 :/

[valid burrow]

thats rotslugs

[placid fiber]

or bon bons

[grand tangle]

Sewer puppy

[placid fiber]

sewer puppy is pretty good

[valid burrow]

stinky snail

[fast scroll]

I forgot how snappy the revolver is

[placid fiber]

Revolver is point and murder

or, in my case, point and sometimes miss 3-5 shots lol

[grand tangle]

Point and skill issue

What purpose does the cowboy revolver actually fill?

[placid fiber]

poor aim do be doing that lol

armor killing, elite sniping

[valid burrow]

heretics doing sidestep when they enter slots

[grand tangle]

It's not good at sniping at all

[heavy arch]

skill issue

[placid fiber]

It's... one of the most accurate guns...

[grand tangle]

Maybe better than brauto but come on

[placid fiber]

and the bullet is HUGE

[grand tangle]

Not cowboy revolver

[placid fiber]

The agripinaa?

[grand tangle]

Ye

[placid fiber]

Oh that's for boss killing on Vet memes

[grand tangle]

Even with runngun

[heavy arch]

ur comparing brauto to revolver

[placid fiber]

the agripinaa is less accurate than the zarona, but, even it is super accurate lol

unless you go full on mag dump

[grand tangle]

Sorry my metaphors are too galaxy brained for you to comprehend

[heavy arch]

there was no metaphor

[heavy arch]

[placid fiber]

cowboy revolver is a bit mid, but, it's being compared to the zarona lol

compared to the autopistol it's still amazing

[grand tangle]

Lol

[haughty haven]

Can you do the uncanny funny with regular burn?

[fleet zealot]

Cowboy revolver is better at bosses

[grand tangle]

I member when autopistol was peak meta

[haughty haven]

Or is that a soulflame bork

[fleet zealot]

Especially with dance of death

[placid fiber]

Yeah... pretty much just funny monster meme-ery right?

[fleet zealot]

And in general just better burst window than zaronas steady strong output

[astral bobcat]

Oh the glory days of autopistol supremacy. All like 3 weeks of it

[haughty haven]

And why is that lol I just noticed that the other day

[fleet zealot]

You mean 12 major patches

fym 3 weeks

[grand tangle]

Autopistol doesn't have runngun right

[placid fiber]

I just want the autopistol to be at least mid

[grand tangle]

Can someone explain why in a way that won't make me hate Sweden more than I already do

[placid fiber]

that'd make me happy

[fleet zealot]

High rate of fire and better base unyielding iirc

Zarona does more but it’s slower and you have to wait for surgical procs

[placid fiber]

and a faster reload

[fleet zealot]

That to

[placid fiber]

It's kinda fun to use it on Vet, when you're only on heresy lol

[normal wren]

Its also fun using the budget zealot build with it

[fleet zealot]

It can work on damn on vet for sure

[normal wren]

Knife/ds weapon specialist zarona

[placid fiber]

"can work"... really reassuring lol

on a class I am much less comfortable on

[fleet zealot]

I think it’s a fine option on vet idk what you want

[placid fiber]

I was just joking around lol

[fleet zealot]

It’s just a less op, more aggressive form of zarona

[placid fiber]

Yep

suppression immunity + revolver = gunner massacre(if u can aim)

[hushed knoll]

Hello Darkpill and bandit

[placid fiber]

Hello Stan

https://tenor.com/view/birria-tacos-mexican-food-dip-taco-gif-26296842

[fleet zealot]

Barrett

[fleet zealot]

Fuck u

Now im hungry

[placid fiber]

Same x.x

[fleet zealot]

God damn i could order like 10 of those rn

And only eat 3

[haughty haven]

Its fuckin ridiculous how greezy the agripeenis is for bossing especially since it feels kinda mid for elites

[fleet zealot]

Cause uhh hrt makes my eyes bigger than my stomach

(Metaphor)

[placid fiber]

my stomach is bigger than my eyes x.x

[fleet zealot]

Drs talking about HRT side effects “well you might start growing tiddy” like no shit why do you think im here

Real side effects

[placid fiber]

Oof

[fleet zealot]

Im going from easily knowing my hunger and limits to

[placid fiber]

I don't know my limits and I usually just gorge myself x.x

[fleet zealot]

“Omg i need 10 tacos right now or ill die”

Then i eat 3 and feel full

[placid fiber]

I'll sometimes go to mcdonalds and order 8 mcdoubles for me and my wife... and then eat 5 of them myself even tho 4 were for me and 4 were for her x.x

[lunar fable]

i've never had birria tacos before

[fleet zealot]

Make sure you get them from a legit place

They are extremely worth it

[lunar fable]

o yea ofc

i'd only go to local places

[fleet zealot]

Not even local

[lunar fable]

al pastor is great

[fleet zealot]

Had some disgusting “birria” at a local place

[lunar fable]

that was from a mom and pop shop

[fleet zealot]

Real deal was from a food truck that was a renovated bus

[fleet zealot]

This same disgusting “hispanic” food place i ordered an adobo chicken quesadilla and it was just, chicken chunks and school tier shredded jack cheese

There wasn’t even adobo

Fucking autocorrect

[lunar fable]

adobe

[fleet zealot]

But the food bus

[placid fiber]

oof

[fleet zealot]

God damn the cooks don’t even speak english

Oh a good sign

[lunar fable]

it was the same for where i went too

[fleet zealot]

If they serve some exotic shit like beef tongue

Or pigskin

[placid fiber]

The taco trucks can have some really good food

[lunar fable]

the lady at the front spoke some english

but i went with a mexican friend and he ordered everything

[north sedge]

Lingua is great

[fleet zealot]

Sadly the food bus isn’t around in the winter

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[fleet zealot]

There is a place called camacho’s that does birria good but not great

They feel like they let themselves be americanized

Not seasoned and spicy enough

[placid fiber]

just throw on some california reapers

Bam

[fleet zealot]

Homemade salsa was fire tho taste wise

[placid fiber]

spicy

[fleet zealot]

Like it looks good and competently cooked, but it lacks that edge

Also it’s way more expensive than the food truck

Food truck was doing birria for like 3.50 a taco

Camacho is like

[placid fiber]

I'm gonna be real with you... idk what birria is

[fleet zealot]

6 or 7 per taco

[fleet zealot]

The best beef ever

[placid fiber]

Ah

[fleet zealot]

Also the taco

They dip the tortilla in the beef juices so it gets fried and crisps on the grill

And they serve a cup of the birria liquid on the side to dip

It’s just beef cheese tortilla and the consome (liquid)

But it comes together perfectly

[north sedge]

the meat is slow cooked, usually goat or beef

[fleet zealot]

There is beauty in simplicity

[heavy arch]

birria is a meme now

every place added it to their menu and results are so varying

[fleet zealot]

That’s also true

It’s like the cubano

[placid fiber]

What'd I miss while getting one of my meds and an anti-biotic that I got put on last night? x.x

Man my throat feels horrible. It's like knives going down my throat even eating just plain white bread x.x

They said it didn't look like strep, but, I got put on an anti-biotic just in case :/

wait this was a thing?

[misty ravine]

Yes, you'd start the finale with your team pox burstered

[placid fiber]

I hadn't had that happen yet >.>'

[placid fiber]

So putting pre golden toughness on the team(before the cutscene) was not just a meme? lol

Glad I missed that :/

[rich remnant]

Boys solo queue sucks.

[placid fiber]

having 3 randos sucks, so yeah it does x.x

[rich remnant]

I’m not an absolute monster at the game, but there is multiple points where I’m like “how the fuck am I always the last one alive” or “brother Zealot why on havoc 22 are you running ahead you’re a chorus build we need you here”

[placid fiber]

Just learn to expect absolutely nothing from randos... it helps x.x

[rich remnant]

I’ve seen those auric storm dudes get absolutely railed in front of me and rage quit on havoc 24

At this point i don’t think I’ll ever get past 25

Other times I’ve had some goated randos and it’s like dude please be my friend

[placid fiber]

Personally I do malice on sub 30 characters cuz without all 30 talents it is a lot harder to solo clutch heresy+

[haughty haven]

Even auric is cooked rn bro. I suck ass at this game compared to some of these gentlemen and ladies and I find myself hard carrying about 4/5 of the pubs i quick play into rn lol

[placid fiber]

No... lady katie... anyways >.> (this is rogue legacy 2)

[rich remnant]

I meant havoc level

[analog ember]

You could get sniped during the cutscene

Pretty fucked

[placid fiber]

Ah, I have 0 interest in havoc tbh. I did 1 run for some resources from a cache... and it confirmed my suspicions about me not liking havoc lol

[misty mason]

I would like to do havoc 40 but without a premade even finding a group in 30+ in OCE is effectively impossible

[rich remnant]

I’m in the pursuit of drip I’m a sucker for a good looking cosmetics

My clearance level is only 25 so I see why people don’t wanna accept me into their 30 but when I see them except the level two, I’m like what the fuck

[misty nova]

Yeah, pretty hilarious

Bursters jumpscare

[haughty haven]

Havoc just makes me angry lol. Too much riding on Randoms

[plucky gate]

yeah just run it with a premade

party finder randoms are pain

[placid fiber]

Randos, in darktide, are worse than some of the dogshit rooms in rogue legacy... and rogue legacy 1 and 2 have some extremely dogshit rooms... like walking into a room and having 4 triple spinning spiked mace traps, a bunch of enemies that shoot through walls, etc... <.<

[red swift]

I don't think many people here have Rogue Legacy knowledge homedog

[plucky gate]

last time i played rogue legacy was like 10 years ago

forgot everything

[fast scroll]

they made 2 of them

[placid fiber]

for a 2d action platformer rogue lite this game is pretty fun for me. And I hate platformers, usually, especially 2d ones

granted I loved the 1st game as well, even tho I absolutely was dogshit at it lol

[elfin thorn]

lol

[steel agate]

i only know vague things cuz i saw a youtuber play it

[placid fiber]

Biggest things are it's a 2d action platformer roguelite. x.x

[elfin thorn]

what's the condition for u to be stunned? and what is a stun?

not sure if i want thy wrath be swift or good balance

just dealt with a pack of ragers as thammer and i think i would've died without balance

[red swift]

It’s basically any stagger

That isn’t block stamina break pretty sure

[placid fiber]

twbs is good for any slow weapon, like the thammer

[elfin thorn]

hmm

i usually play ogryn and twbs. i wonder if i just managed to not notice it that much

in vermintide ik u can get stunned if u eat hits rapidly. guessing it's smth like that?

[normal wren]

Stunned out of heavies

[zealous mesa]

I have been trying the relic blade with the power usage reduction on perfect block

It's an interesting extra little bit of complexity

Sword has lots of stamina anyway

[gleaming furnace]

Is it weird that im starting to enjoy chain axe martyrdom ?

[river mantle]

aside question: do you guys prefer stun grenades or fire? and why would you ever want to use the dinky throwing knives?

[gleaming furnace]

Better talents on the way to knives

Like waaaaay better

[placid fiber]

sniping specials, elites, good talents on the path to them, they are recovered on elite kill and ammo picks... <.<

[opaque island]

and those knives do work

[gleaming furnace]

Only the first 2 on the way to fire are any good and basically all the ones on the way to stuns kinda suck

Like disdain is just worse sustained assault

[rocky nacelle]

disdain only good for relic blade

[river mantle]

but why not just use a gun at long ranges? they don't have a travelling arc and nor are they slow

Stunstorm is basically free revives for your buddies

[normal wren]

Unlimited ammo oneshots to the head

And dont have to swap from melee

And don't have to pick up grenades allowing ogryn to take box

[river mantle]

k

[placid fiber]

And they can benefit from blessings that are active on both ranged and melee weapons

[misty nova]

Stuns

Would rarely pick stun or immolation due to optimal pathing

That should cover both questions

Yeah!

[spare dome]

the rare times i dont run tknives it just fucks me up

ill go to pop a trapper and a grenade appears in my hands and im like wtf

[normal wren]

So what Im hearing is bromentum knives

[frozen kernel]

Puncture knives

[normal wren]

Bromentum headhunter puncture*

[normal wren]

Could also run lacerate

[spare dome]

honestly wrath is the best tknife pairing

[normal wren]

Mercy killer

[spare dome]

can huck it through an entire horde to hit a special

[misty nova]

I'd say Manstopper but needs crits

[frozen kernel]

Wrath on my relic, puncture on my boltgun. It’s a good life

[gleaming furnace]

Lethal proximity knives ??

[frozen kernel]

LOL

[normal wren]

Surgical knives

[gleaming furnace]

Here’s your grenade bro

[frozen kernel]

Imagine just throwing impact grenades instead of knives

^^

[normal wren]

I would use this

[gleaming furnace]

[frozen kernel]

I’d use the fastballs if they had an arc (counter intuitive I know)

So we could use them like Scout’s sandman

I just want it to be good again ;-;

[misty nova]

With 60 rending

[gleaming furnace]

Thrust knives ??

[misty nova]

Pretty sure Tknife procs Decapitator on axes

[gleaming furnace]

Lmao we should cease this discussion lest the funhating pencilnecks catch wind of this knowledge and begin agitating for “balance”

[delicate shadow]

tknives proccing various blessings is already very known about

y'all late to the party if anything☝️ 🤓

[misty nova]

Funny words for someone in Full Bore throwing knife range

https://tenor.com/view/morticia-gomez-addams-addams-family-knife-throw-gif-5205912

[sullen forge]

Manstopper tknives turning the game into peak baby mode LMAO

[visual stream]

""Balance""

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-druski-gif-20560325

[river mantle]

I wasn't expecting anyone to seriously recommend the knives but I'll give them a try ig

[red swift]

Tknives used to stack uncanny, now they’re just affected by it

[placid fiber]

Oh, hey, look... melk has something semi-decent for my oggy lol

I might grab that in case I want to do 1 run in havoc for the weekly run on my oggy

[elfin thorn]

is there a penance for killing a mutie as you charge into it?

[placid fiber]

Yeah

it's also an achievement as well iirc

[elfin thorn]

do u happen to know the name

[placid fiber]

uh

[rich remnant]

Yes took me awhile to get the timing down especially with TH

[elfin thorn]

darn

i almost got it in this game without me knowing of it

was about to get on evac when i saw 2 muties charging in and went to try it out for the funny

[gleaming furnace]

It’s a weird and capricious penance for sure, especially since chain weapons don’t work for it. Take a thunder hammer or even heavy sword and you’ll get it eventually

[river jackal]

Anyone free to run some twins with me to help me level?

[placid fiber]

lol I did a shield run on heresy with my heavy hitter build to get some exp on it... I still scored top damage lol

Only thing kinda scary to me with the shield are crusher groups :/

[fleet zealot]

Shield is busted

It’s literally just the ogryn being smart or not

[placid fiber]

I was being smart lol

[fleet zealot]

H1 hits like a truck and h2 has infinite cleave

But no i get stuck with light spam planters

[placid fiber]

Still when 5 crushers and a hound were on me it was still a bit stressful

[fleet zealot]

Between the two, the shield is smarter than those ogryns

[fleet zealot]

Just give em the ole jawbreaker

[placid fiber]

I was able to kill 3 of them with my heavy stubber at least >.>'

deadly accurate headshots still do at least okay damage to crushers

with the achlys stubber, that is

[placid fiber]

I feel like I want a ripper with can opener, with the shield, tbh

Also: doesn't this kinda look like a noob trap, for one of the shield's blessings?

[fleet zealot]

Yes

Extremely

[placid fiber]

So... for havoc the oggies are shieldgryns with the shout...?

[fleet zealot]

It’s skullcrusher BM until high enough havoc opportunistic outscales BM

[placid fiber]

when there isn't a shieldgryn that is

[fleet zealot]

The taunt on block talent works on ranged enemies that shoot your shield

Making them drop what their doing and run into melee

The 25% base damage bonus to enemies is really good to

[placid fiber]

Is this one useful as well?

[fleet zealot]

Ehh im not sure

Id ask oggy mains

[placid fiber]

I'm mostly going to be pushing and blocking right?

[fleet zealot]

Mostly you’ll be wanting to h1 h2 in melee

Pushing to make space and blocking to taunt ranged shit

[placid fiber]

I mean for higher havoc

[fleet zealot]

Yes

That’s the havoc gameplan

Shield dps is great

[placid fiber]

I've just heard that the ogryn is mostly there to build enemies up so the other guys can dps them down

[fleet zealot]

H2 has infinite cleave so applying bleed stacks is nice and opportunist and skullcrusher makes your damage ridic

[fleet zealot]

Nah, you just need to be more defensive when shooters are around

Otherwise your gameplan is pretty similar you just need to play boring asf

Ogryn has a bad rap in havoc cause influencers and drama babies imo

[placid fiber]

Ogryn is mostly all about attack attack attack... it's the shieldgryns that try to play all defensive in normal games that can really make oggies look terrible

[fleet zealot]

Yea

It’s a trap when shield dps output when used properly is great

I cannot understate how busted infinite cleave h2 is

[placid fiber]

"What, I'm not supposed to play like a dumbass?" -average ogryn player

[placid fiber]

So the go-to blessing combo is skullcrusher + opportunist?

This shield came with t4 opportunist lol

lol if my 2nd health curio was a 21% health curio instead of a 20% health curio I'd have over 500hp on my feel no pain build cause of the 10% health talent lol (2hp curios 1 toughness)

I don't use feel no pain

[fleet zealot]

Take Bm over opportunist

At your level

H1 can chunk multiple elites with BM

[placid fiber]

only got t2 bm rn

[fleet zealot]

Thats fine

Only a timy weakspot dmg diff

[placid fiber]

sigh I suppose I will continue leveling my shield mastery :/

[placid fiber]

Look at this cancer in the normal missions lol

Gloriana... + heresy teammates... + hunting grounds... <.<

[opaque island]

• fucked up elite spawns

[placid fiber]

As much as I want gloriana completions, I'm gonna skip any hunting grounds ones lol

[opaque island]

who do i play today, bardin and kerllian are not available, already got them lvl 35

[misty nova]

Make sure to get the 5% rending subnode and the 10% on elite kill talent

[misty nova]

Foot knight Kruber

[opaque island]

okay, what weapons and talents?

[misty nova]

Foot knight?
Fortnite

Yeah uh
I don't know foot knight shenanigans

[placid fiber]

Always on my heavy hitter build lol

The only builds I don't have the 5% rending talent on are my gunlugger builds

[placid fiber]

bret longsword temp hp on stagger, staggering force, iirc mainstay or bulwark. and rock of reikland

and handgun for the ranged

It could also be enhanced power on fk I can't remember for sure

[misty mason]

Fuck mang, PoE2 discord is trash for asking questions

[grand tangle]

which path here would you take if you really wanted benediction and were using relic blade and revolver

im torn

-20% sprint cost is good for relic blade but so is 30% impact

[placid fiber]

sprint cost can be mitigated by sliding, tbh

[fleet zealot]

the other one

shield of contempt

oh wait going benediction

i just wouldn't go mid tree

i would go to twbs and good balance

[grand tangle]

but the corruption in some of these havoc missions is insane

i want benediction

if only to keep my allies alive longer

[placid fiber]

Don't you want the corruption removal aura for higher havoc levels?

[jade juniper]

combat shotty perks, bless, mark?

im assuming dump is mobility once more

[placid fiber]

dump mobility on pretty much every weapon with it

[placid fiber]

the few rare instances are collateral on bolt pistols and autopistols, pen on knives with uncanny, and weapons with defences instead of mobility

[misty mason]

front page of national news network today lmao

[fleet zealot]

that's beacon

they typed benediction

[placid fiber]

I know

[fleet zealot]

i thought they were still grabbing middle tree stuff but swapping to benediction

[placid fiber]

I was asking on a side note

shoulda specified that

[jade juniper]

this though

[placid fiber]

I think the fire shot special round one is generally considered the best, but, idk anymore

with uh no respite and deathspitter or fire frenzy iirc

not sure on the perks

can be used with manstopper and scattershot tho

[hasty raft]

I like the shotgun

[placid fiber]

The shotgun is good, much better since they increased the ammo for each mk imo

[jade juniper]

flakiak on the perks?

or flakcara?

[red mesa]

wait...
i just heard in a video that 400 rating curios with +3 stamina, only give you +2 stamina

no fing way

[vague depot]

Wasn’t it the slug

[spare dome]

fire shotgun is the stinkiest one now

almost zero redeeming qualities especially since marks are wholly interchangeable now

[fleet zealot]

https://bsky.app/profile/nowhereferret.bsky.social/post/3ld4rkgwgxk2u

銀手袋 (@nowhereferret.bsky.social)

Bluesky · Dec 12, 2024, 5:16 PM

I LOVE FERRETS

[hushed knoll]

Hello Danthony

[grizzled aspen]

Stanthony.

(I fucking hate this guy)

[grizzled aspen]

Bluesky, ew.

[fleet zealot]

sorry i kinda lost it today when the blue checks on the latest american event happened

it was disgusting on twitter

blue sky is nicer

[grizzled aspen]

Bluesky has a lot of people that need to go to prison.

I will not elaborate.

[fleet zealot]

[fleet zealot]

please don't cause it sounds like you are going to repeat something completely wrong or something that gets you banned

[grizzled aspen]

It is definitely not wrong but it certainly will get me banned.

So, no, I will not elaborate.

[placid fiber]

Really? iirc it used to be the best mk lol

[grizzled aspen]

The fire used to be able to go through multiple bulwark shields.

Now it only pens 1.

[fleet zealot]

the dreaded hydra

[placid fiber]

Ah

[grizzled aspen]

So yeah it used to be absolutely cracked for bulwark racism but now it's bad.

[misty mason]

Hello Sting

https://tenor.com/view/sting-police-every-breath-you-take-cool-lighting-gif-14499415

[grizzled aspen]

Also since when do DOT's treat reapers as unyielding?

[grizzled aspen]

Call him Stank.

[spare dome]

uh, always

[misty mason]

I often call him Stanky

[spare dome]

also it sucks that the fire shell only does fire damage

[misty mason]

He doesnt like it

[spare dome]

it doesnt even do the damage of a regular round

[fleet zealot]

since always

[placid fiber]

I noticed when I spawned like 10 bulwarks in the meatgrinder the flamer doesn't pen more than like 1 or 2 either x.x

[fleet zealot]

they've always been flak jacket but unyielding body

[grizzled aspen]

I mean, it's white phosphorous, or something similar.

[fleet zealot]

it's, unique for an enemy to say the least since no other enemy has a chest and base for dots be different

[grizzled aspen]

IRL dragons breath projectiles tend to just... disappear.

[spare dome]

strictly for balance tho, it should at least benefit from the high damage the shotgun does

[copper hawk]

Blooskie

[spare dome]

instead its just infinite range fire dots, but the dot value sucks

and the shotgun itself is the slowest too

what a fall from grace

[grizzled aspen]

Fatshark should make all combat shotguns have their special shells by default.

:)

[placid fiber]

Aside from not having perfect stat rolls how's this bolter for the Vet?

[grizzled aspen]

(I desire the agri shotgun to just be a slug spitter)

[copper hawk]

Terrifying Barrage

[placid fiber]

It's in melk's shop lol

[undone pewter]

Pre crafting rework type weapon

[grizzled aspen]

It's definitely one of the boltguns of all time.

[copper hawk]

LMFAO troo

[misty mason]

Id throw that biz in the bin if it was pre rework

Reload speed, unarmoured and a dead blessing

[placid fiber]

Well yeah... pre mastery that thing fucking sucked lol

my mastery is only 11 on my bolter 😦

[misty mason]

Melk is only really good for non rich players and curios now

[placid fiber]

Does the bolter have suppression immunity?

I don't think it does... but I can't remember

[undone pewter]

kinda due to the recoil buff

[grizzled aspen]

The recoil buff that fatshark promptly broke again.

It still does that janky ahh reset thing that it used to do when you ads.

[hushed knoll]

NO 😠

[misty mason]

See, Taco Stinker doesnt like it

[grizzled aspen]

Stank. 🫵

[grizzled aspen]

Be sure you point at him, too. He hates it.

[hushed knoll]

DONT POINT AT ME

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/you-youre-your-yourself-straight-face-gif-26118421

[hushed knoll]

Ugh stop

Wtf Danthony

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-19093493

[grizzled aspen]

🫵 🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵

[hushed knoll]

Foragu-Kassuto no 😠😠

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah see this is why I fucking hate you, Stank.

[hushed knoll]

Why

[misty mason]

Cause Frog is a grinch

[grizzled aspen]

it's Christmas
I am literally THE Grinch
you don't eat food like a normal person
you call me whatever the hell that is (I will not repeat that)

[opal star]

merry christmas everybody

early christmas

[grizzled aspen]

RAAAAA I FUCKING HATE CHRISTMAS

I HATE CORPORATIONS OVERMONETIZATION OF WHAT SHOULD BE THE GREATEST HOLIDAY ON EARTH

7603980997 Dreg Ragers is about to become 7603980996 Dreg Ragers...

[opal star]

you leave dreg rager #7603980997 out of this he’s doing his best

[grizzled aspen]

I count 2 overhead heavies directly o to his noggin.

[lunar fable]

[visual stream]

TRUE

I hate overmonetization of Christmas more than I hate Trunk or Treat becoming a boring ass Halloween meta

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/deku-my-hero-academia-this-cannot-be-cringe-gif-11866754494171397574

[copper hawk]

Bald blab

Is this true ?

[misty mason]

I'm just gonna watch Home Alone and laugh when they say
Merry Christmas ya filthy animal

[gleaming kelp]

"Halloween meta"

BRING BACK SHADY NEIGHBORHOOD CANDY RUNS

[visual stream]

YES

[vague depot]

Is the dark section in the new map supposed to be completely pitch black

Or is my potato mod fucking me over again

[misty mason]

Goes to America
Knocks on door for trick or treat
Gets shot through the door
How could wokesters do this

[visual stream]

Goes to Britain
Knocks on door for trick or treat
Acid splashed

[merry flume]

when nothing bad happened to you as a child and you lived in the ghetto

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[misty mason]

Goes to Britain
Knocks on door for trick or treat
Gets beaten unconscious and cause a riot because I was wearing the wrong football club shirt

How could Europe do this

[visual stream]

Go to anywhere in Europe
Get gangstalked and beaten because I'm a person of the same exact skin tone but from somewhere ten miles away

No love like European foreigner love

[misty mason]

Goes to Switzerland
Knocks on door for trick or treat
Arrested for disturbing the peace

Goes to Italy
Knocks on door for trick or treat
BADA BING BADA BOOM

[visual stream]

Have some a da gabbagool

[misty mason]

Goes to Spain
Knocks on door for trick or treat
Arrested by the gazpacho

[jade juniper]

i require conclusive information on the combat shotgun

mark and perks

[misty mason]

I dun like shotguns

[jade juniper]

imagine

[opal star]

all three combat shotguns work.. mostly the same way apart from their special fires from what I experienced, which loads a special shell based on the mark:

• lawbringer zarona: spread shot shell w/ high horizontal spread
• agripina: slug w/ high single-target damage and impact, enough to open bulwarks
• kantrael accatran: dragon’s breath shell with high cleave and inflicts stacks of burn, I don’t recall how many

aiming down sights chokes the spread for good single-target but lowers cleave considerably

[jade juniper]

there is no kantrael/lawbringer

[north sedge]

They changed the names

[jade juniper]

there is agripinaa, zarona, accatran

[mighty root]

Yeah I don’t know why they did

[opal star]

oh excuse me, the accatran and zarona accordingly

they got renamed, which is dumb

[mighty root]

New staff for psyker when

[misty mason]

Bolt and beam staff pls

Specially beam

[frozen kernel]

Beam yes

[mighty root]

Soulblaze bolt would be awesome

[frozen kernel]

Fuck

Railgun staff and beam staff

[jade juniper]

is there one you would recommend over others

[mighty root]

But then again you can make that by adding soul blaze to void strike

[frozen kernel]

Like voidblast but actually good this time for the former

Strike is the AoE and Blast is the ball right?

[mighty root]

Got them backwards

Blast is aoe

Strike is ball

[misty mason]

Strike=bowling ball

naming regime checks out

[mighty root]

Even still I want the bolt staff

[misty mason]

Yeah bolt is more of a sniper anyway

[opal star]

I go either way with the zarona and agripina

I strongly recommend the zarona for hordeclear as the special shot is especially powerful when paired with manstopper and scattershot, and ADSing is fairly solid on single-target damage & stagger against anything that isn’t carapace or a monstrosity (a shell to the face quickly shuts up reapers, which I like)

For single-target, agripina hands down, esp w/ full bore (as the slug special fire always procs it), and no respite (as shotguns tend to have high stagger, ESPECIALLY the slug)

[jade juniper]

ok

[opal star]

And like I said, agri slugs stagger bulwarks and leaves them open to getting shot in the face

[jade juniper]

ill probably go with zarona for my current build

[mighty root]

Tbh I’d just use the d barrel

It’s just the best shotgun

[opal star]

eh

[jade juniper]

its not about the weapon choice its about masteries

i must gather all

but i want to at least have a half decent weapon to do it with

[mighty root]

Oh just up upgrade them to green and sacrifice them

[opal star]

perhaps baron would like to actually use the weapon

[jade juniper]

i enjoy playing the video game

[mighty root]

Got me fucked up if you think I’m using the headhunter auto

[jade juniper]

perks for zarona?

[mighty root]

Sorry dude if you don’t meet my expectations i hate you and I’m gonna touch you

[opal star]

I use flak/elite

[jade juniper]

difference between elite/maniacs?

[opal star]

okay so

elites are all enemies that can be pinged but do not have special audio spawn cues

this includes shotgunners, gunners, crushers, bulwarks, maulers

ragers

fuckin uhhhhh what else-

reapers

[jade juniper]

snipers? i never hear a spawn cue

[umbral kindle]

They do have one

It's more subtle

[jade juniper]

quiet asf then i have my game volume up

[umbral kindle]

It's like an electric crackling

Like an old radio

[vague depot]

yea i usually just rely on a character going "i hear a sniper"

[opal star]

they also have a group one in maelstrom I believe, sounds kinda like a valk flying in (to drop them off presumably)

[jade juniper]

peculiar

[vague depot]

or waiting for a giant laser sight to appear on my head

[jade juniper]

thats usually how i tell

[opal star]

while maniac only applies to dreg ragers, flamers, and mutants afaik

[jade juniper]

or the firing cue

[vague depot]

even if the sound cue was audible i wouldnt hear it anyways because my audio likes to cut off whenever more than 10 enemies appear on screen

[umbral kindle]

Easiest way to tell what's a special is just look at the special section of the psykanium

[opal star]

specials are the following

• snipers
• mutants
• hounds
• trappers
• flamers
• bombers

[hushed knoll]

It’s Japanese

[jade juniper]

can the psykhanium tell if im mentally special?

[opal star]

aren’t we all

[jade juniper]

true

[umbral kindle]

They use a very similar one in normal games that's just much quieter to the point you can't really hear it if there's anything else going on

[opal star]

right so I find more mileage out of elites bc it applies to more enemies + across different health types vs maniac

[jade juniper]

ok

makes sense

[mighty root]

I wish the base psykhaium had bosses and such

[opal star]

well there’s always the visual cue of the bright ass laser

[umbral kindle]

I think they're just designed that way to be more stealthy to try and catch you out

[rocky nacelle]

@median steeple @copper hawk https://fxtwitter.com/zerowontmiss/status/1868761149808034169

hitler and stalin teaming up

[jade juniper]

the humble firing noise cue:

[opal star]

the stealth in question:

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526

[jade juniper]

thats loud af

[umbral kindle]

They also just pop out of thin air instead of coming from spawn doors

[opal star]

who is stealthier

• door sniper
• door poxburster

[jade juniper]

only reason i ever get sniped is because i got stuck on game geometry or that one random poxwalker behind me

[mighty root]

Door burster

No sound

[jade juniper]

neither i am spamming mouse 4 at the door

i WILL know

[mighty root]

The only way we know they are there is a silent red outline

He’s just standing there

[jade juniper]

i did see a sniper absolutely delete a trapper that was headed my way once

trapper ran infront of the shot GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT NOOOOOOOOO and then blam

trapper ded

[mighty root]

Can someone make one of theses but with a door burster

[median steeple]

modern day Molotov-Ribbentrop pact

[misty mason]

Door poxburster stealth king

[umbral kindle]

I've seen sniper on sniper domestic violence before

[jade juniper]

honestly quite incredible

[mighty root]

I like how bomber, flamers, and snipers pre fire kicks

[rocky nacelle]

if you do this to someone you should be banned from matchmaking for 30 minutes

[misty mason]

W what if our red lasers touched UwU

[umbral kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053823148048527440/1288959074532069477/uncapped_MedalTVWarhammer40000Darktide20240926150503.mp4?ex=6761ddaf&is=67608c2f&hm=b593fbaaecb4da534628c96be923ffbe806f9cae39670456ef3a165827428731&

[jade juniper]

tf you mean it is beeping so loud you cant NOT hear it coming

[mighty root]

Had anyone else got caught mid air from a trapper? Like about to touch the ground after dodging off a ledge?

Failed a clutch because of that

[misty mason]

tf YOU mean, its silent until the door opens

[jade juniper]

no but i have been caught while stuck on random poxwalkers 1 and 2 because i had the audacity to try to dodge

[misty mason]

nothing
BEEEBEBBEPBBEBEPBPEBP BOOM

5 bursters bustin on you

[jade juniper]

you can hear the loud RAAAAAAAGH of it spawning

[river jackal]

With Fury Rising, if you crit and kill something in the same hit does it count as 2?

Or does the game just prioritise one trigger over the other?

[fleet zealot]

lazy water

[misty mason]

tfw your desk neighbour is hacking up a lung

Nurgle laughing in the distance

[frozen kernel]

Thought he was puffing a dart for a second

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/badhha-flipbar-badhhagif-cigarette-gif-15123208

[frozen kernel]

Slid off ledge, trapper was like

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11-gif-17129778

[misty mason]

I've been thrown by a mutie and trapped in midair yeah

[frozen kernel]

Oh that’s tragic

[fleet zealot]

on the uhh

[frozen kernel]

I’ve only been volleyed between muties

[fleet zealot]

after the event on torrent assassination

[frozen kernel]

Like they were playing keep away with my fireteam

[fleet zealot]

where you go up the stairs but before you are in the building with the medicaid

a mutie can grab you and throw you off

you either get ledged or you take a ton of fall damage

or just, get yeeted into the void

[frozen kernel]

I know this place well

Big open area where people usually wipe to a slug puppy and a handful of shotgunners

You drop onto a stack of chairs and garbage

Or get flung from up by the train cars and die horribly

Oh wait I’m thinking of two parts of the same gauntlet

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-nice-today-cartoon-dog-dog-cartoon-dog-from-cartoon-saying-i-was-nice-today-i-was-nice-today-cartoon-gif-24071217

It’s all painful memories melding together

[opal star]

imperial record keeping is so fucked that the buildings have health insurance

[frozen kernel]

When the medicae servitor provides, but doesn’t have healthcare itself

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

[mighty root]

Also what staffs have been datamined?

I must know

[frozen kernel]

Zealot glaive when

[fleet zealot]

yea it's the ascender that's really just a stair case being put down to your level

[frozen kernel]

Yeeeep

I think it’s a little hilarious that even after 250 hours I barely remember the actual names of the levels

[mighty root]

Power axe or mauler axe

[frozen kernel]

Just the worst parts of them

[mighty root]

Power dagger

[mighty root]

Power dueling sword

[frozen kernel]

I hate that you’re probably right

[fleet zealot]

i only remember level names for various reasons, but not all of them

now map names

are easy

[misty mason]

Stan when tacos

[hushed knoll]

Danthony you are very tired

[frozen kernel]

Honestly surprised that there’s nothing even remotely like the spears, save for the PGS poke

[misty mason]

Correct

[fleet zealot]

hourglass, carnival, chasm terminus, torrent, metalfab, throneside

[frozen kernel]

HAB DREYKO

[fleet zealot]

clandestium

[frozen kernel]

Gloriana ^

[fleet zealot]

habdreyko is on the chasm terminus map

[mighty root]

Glaive would be good there

[misty mason]

Luv me glaive

[mighty root]

Or a fist weapon for vet or orgyn

[misty mason]

I still want lightning claws, even though itll never happen

[frozen kernel]

I think the only ones I remember off the top are carnival, metalfab, and chasm terminus

Oh and hourglass because they’re like

[mighty root]

I would absolutely love to get a fist weapon

[frozen kernel]

Actually lit

Also the missions are generally pretty fun, and alright to carry on

[mighty root]

What all types of fist weapons are there in 40k?

[frozen kernel]

Torrent can suck butts

[misty mason]

Powerfist chainfist lightning claws

[lavish garnet]

power fist

but more for space marine of ogryn tbh

[mighty root]

Come on fat shark

[lavish garnet]

didn't see a lot of human with it

[frozen kernel]

Hear me out

[misty mason]

Although I think chainfist is Ultrasmurf leader exclusive

[frozen kernel]

Bits of metal tied together loosely with wire

[sterile stone]

It's not that easy dude.

[frozen kernel]

Wielded like the Dogtag Knuckles from New Vegas

[misty mason]

Marinara Calgarini

[frozen kernel]

But for Ogryn

[mighty root]

[lavish garnet]

they need to fix the older weapon before haha

[sterile stone]

Any implementations FS does to the game GW has to have the final say in.

So if GW says no

[frozen kernel]

Ogryn needs more than 2 of their melee choices to be viable before getting more

[sterile stone]

It doesn't get added to the game

[mighty root]

I’d like brass knuckles for vet or zealot

[frozen kernel]

But they still need more

Spiked knuckles for zealot and vet would be neat

[lavish garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

[frozen kernel]

Then scrap metal knuckles for Ogryn

[lavish garnet]

ogryn right now

shield or pickaxe

[mighty root]

They’d have like writing on them and holy inscriptions

[frozen kernel]

Church of Borovian took me in when nobody else would

[fleet zealot]

torn

poe2 or veilguard

[frozen kernel]

My Ogryn just wants to diggy diggy some holes

[misty mason]

poe2 probs

[lavish garnet]

bruh poe2

[frozen kernel]

Poe2 looks neat

[misty mason]

Veilguard aint great, and im a wokester

[lavish garnet]

veilguard is complete shit man

[frozen kernel]

I just can’t justify the money when I didn’t really like the first game

Even if it’s SUPER different

[lavish garnet]

i mean if you are a fan of the series it just doesn't work

[misty mason]

Veilguard looks good, the combat is relatively fun but pretty much everything else is bad

[fleet zealot]

from what i've seen it's more mid than terrible

[frozen kernel]

Veilguard has high highs, and soul crushing lows

[mighty root]

Yeah why add an entire new psychic ablity “soulblaze” when literally pyrokenitcs are in 40k

[misty mason]

Tone is extremely poor, level design is awful, writing is highly average

[frozen kernel]

Like it’s really bad when it’s bad

[lavish garnet]

the art direction is really wierd

[fleet zealot]

i'll play it solely for ||Solas|| ngl

[lavish garnet]

purple everywhere

[frozen kernel]

There’s some really clunky dialogue moments where it just…doesn’t land

[sterile stone]

I need you to read that post again.

[misty mason]

Yeah for me the tonal whiplash and general glibness is the worst part

[lavish garnet]

it's not even a true rpg

[mighty root]

Sorry I’m so stupid

[frozen kernel]

But there’s other moments with your companions where it’s like “oh a good writer worked on this story”

[lavish garnet]

no evil route

[misty mason]

It reads like a pg DnD adventurer party

[mighty root]

[fleet zealot]

no evil route doesn't not make in an rpg

[lavish garnet]

just very nice and nice haha

[fleet zealot]

it just means bioware is being stupid

again

[misty mason]

IIRC DA never really did evil options anyway

Like you could do meaner options

[lavish garnet]

the roleplaying aspect is important for me but yeah

[frozen kernel]

Not being able to be a bit of a cunt in Dragon Age is a little disheartening

[fleet zealot]

rook is very purposefully supposed to be a good person at heart

[frozen kernel]

Considering in origins as a noble dwarf you can be like

“Jeeves, why is this peasant speaking to me?”

[heady frost]

anyone got a martydom relic blade build you guys please?

[lavish garnet]

bg3 did it right a true rpg

[frozen kernel]

“Jeeves, why is this lowly smith interrupting our walk?”

[misty mason]

I can't really explain why but the level design was so bad

[fleet zealot]

inquisition you could have done some pretty, authoritarian stuff

[fleet zealot]

bg3 was a massive undertaking

but i will say, my biggest issues with veilguard is the lack of dragon's keep

[lavish garnet]

but fr just play poe2 instead of veilguard

[frozen kernel]

I can’t hold anything against BG3 in good conscience because of this

[fleet zealot]

i didn't fuckin play 3 games to not have any of it matter besides a few decisions

[misty mason]

Yeah im enjoying PoE2. I just picked it up yesterday

Oh man I haaated the references to your origin in veilguard

[lavish garnet]

poe 2 is just the better diablo now

[fleet zealot]

i literally had Dwarf Noble Warrior Warden Lilliana romance->mage hawke anders romance-> female rogue elf solace romance

[misty mason]

Haha Rook, this reminds me of when you getOriginHookDialogue

[fleet zealot]

and the only thing that follows up is the inquisitor romance 😔

[lavish garnet]

well the dialogue for me was way to modern considering the setting it didn't fit at all

[fleet zealot]

and like, the last inquistion dlc choice iirc

idk, there has been some outrageous dialogue going back to origins

[misty mason]

Yeah like I said, the dialogue is like the DnD movie

[fleet zealot]

it's about placement and usuage, not the concepts

[misty mason]

Waaay to glib and modern

[fleet zealot]

but the dnd movie was good

[misty mason]

It worked in the dnd movie

Not here

[fleet zealot]

yea

that's what i'm saying

[misty mason]

Setting: Dark Fantasy
Dialogue: Weenie Hut Junior

[lavish garnet]

i mean being trans shouldn't be your entire personality or gay or whatever

[fleet zealot]

oghren

[fleet zealot]

tbh i didn't see that besides cherry picked clips

you have to go out of your way for

it's like the people complaining about the gay shit in bg3, you control the buttons you press

[misty mason]

Ditto

[lavish garnet]

bg3 you need to search for it yeah

[misty mason]

I didn't get to the NB character but yeah

[grand tangle]

dude that game just keeps pushing me into gay encounters idk what im doin wrong

[heady frost]

what curios does martyr want? 3x +1 wound? 2x toughness +1 wound?

[fleet zealot]

anyways i got poe2 anyways

[heady frost]

whats the set up?

[fleet zealot]

ranger is canonically a lesbian

[grand tangle]

swear im not gay bro

[fleet zealot]

3x wounds

or 2x wounds 1 toughnses if insecure

[heady frost]

ty

[misty mason]

The devs keep tricking me into fucking all these hot men

[fleet zealot]

hot bear men

[grand tangle]

how do they keep doing this

[hushed knoll]

🫦

[lavish garnet]

well at least they are good looking in bg3

veilguard is just ugly in general

[fleet zealot]

i'll be honest, veilguard they don't look bad like andromeda did

[lavish garnet]

didn't play andromeda

[fleet zealot]

i can see the issues with the ||darkspawn areas||

[hushed knoll]

Oh my God remember Andromeda facial animations?

[fleet zealot]

they did patch em

eventually

[hushed knoll]

I know

But before

[fleet zealot]

my face is tired

[hushed knoll]

LOL

I love that compilation video

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-andromeda-my-face-is-tired-gif-25522909

[grand tangle]

nowhere near as bad as mgs3 facial animations

[hushed knoll]

What is mgw3

[fleet zealot]

but andromeda is another game i'm sus of someone disliking it too much

cuase like

[hushed knoll]

Mgs

[fleet zealot]

i don't get the peebee hate

[grand tangle]

metal gear solid 3

[fleet zealot]

she's just the literal mirror of liara, where liara is reserved and polite, PBee is just passionate

[grand tangle]

please go watch the 8 hour long cutscene movie please

its very good

[fleet zealot]

just 2 different flavors of asari autism

[misty mason]

Nah disagree there

I think it looks great

Dem hair physics

[frozen kernel]

Unironically the most self exposing takes I saw on Twitter read like this

[fleet zealot]

yea, idk, some people really get in on qunari but aren't they are very varied race anyways, you got sten to arishok to iron bull to the trespasser dlc chick

[lavish garnet]

they look so goofy now

[fleet zealot]

they are still recognizably qunari

EHH???

a lot of the goofy shit is just, meme character creations

and pointing to it like we havent' been making shitty clown characters since character creation was invented

the defaults and legit PC customs look fine

[lavish garnet]

xd

[fleet zealot]

one is a cutscene

one looks like it is in combat where you aren't even going to be looking at

[lavish garnet]

xdd

[fleet zealot]

so yea

[lavish garnet]

but one 2024 and the aren't

but personal opinion that's all

[fleet zealot]

also arishok is old iirc, so maybe the better question would be giving qunari more facial options

and not that qunari are bad looking, cause I don't agree with that

[fleet zealot]

you think devs don't cut corners when they can in 2024?

[lavish garnet]

bruh ofc i know lol

[fleet zealot]

sounding like the people flaming the window reflections in the latest spiderman

like yea no shit they don't care about making the face look PERFECT when you are in a 3rd person view. and it's likely exaggerated to read from top down and behind anyways

[lavish garnet]

i don't want a perfect face

[fleet zealot]

look at "smear frames" in a lot of modern games

[lavish garnet]

just not a goofy face haha

i just find her ugly even in cinematic that's all

[fleet zealot]

i guarantee the qunari in inquistion also made goofy faces

in combat

[lavish garnet]

well let me check didn't se inquisition

[fleet zealot]

all the readability is built around the perspectives players typically have

and it's literal cherry picking like idk what else to say

[river jackal]

What perks are you guys taking on relic blade? I've been using Maniac and Carapace

[frozen kernel]

Flak Elite

[lavish garnet]

it's inquisition ?

[frozen kernel]

#zealot-class message

From pins

[fleet zealot]

i'm talking about the pc qunari as well, in combat

[frozen kernel]

Can attest that it works well, just gotta remember that you can slide to instantly ready your stab for those juicy one taps

[fleet zealot]

i'm just trying to point out picking one source from in combat where you have to go out the way and pause to look at the face is not the same as a cinematic

[frozen kernel]

She was a bit much, so I took Drack and Vetra (they have great chemistry)

[autumn void]

Which Relic Blade is better for heavy spam?

[frozen kernel]

I also missed Garrus and Wrex/Grunt

[lavish garnet]

well the skin is too smooth and clean in the newer game maybe that's why i don't like it

[fleet zealot]

oh vetra is best girl

[fleet zealot]

yea i think that calls for more options, cause some of the default femqunari's were really smooth in inquisition

iirc

[frozen kernel]

Uhhh Mk2 I guess? PA into heavy heavy light heavy is all sweeps except the light which is kinda diagonal

Main CC combo is a heavy light heavy light rotation like Branx pickaxe

[autumn void]

PA i assume is just activating the power?

[fleet zealot]

mk10 loops h3 and h4 into eachother

[frozen kernel]

PA is push attack

[autumn void]

Ah

What are the best blessings for them? Cause I don’t know how to perfect block lmao

[frozen kernel]

Most folks have been rocking Cranial Grounding + Heatsink/Rampage/Wrath

I’ve tried heatsink and wrath so far and honestly, heatsink kinda seems like shit

[opal star]

heatsink's heat reduction is drastically reduced if you're not in lockout

the 10% over 3 seconds only actually applies in full while in it

[frozen kernel]

Occasionally I’ll CTRL+F “heatsink” to see what folks are saying and it’s a mixed bag. Main takeaway I saw was it only really helps if you overheat, which you should avoid

Yeah that

[autumn void]

Overload seems kinda funny ngl

[frozen kernel]

I usually just QQ when I’m about to overheat

And keep swinging

[jade juniper]

tac axe blessings are shred and decimator, yes?

[frozen kernel]

So rampage/wrath seemed good for me, but I wanted to see if the cleave from wrath was that noticeable outside of havoc

[fleet zealot]

it's funny but garbage

50 base damage with poor adms and high fall off

[frozen kernel]

On the one hand I wish psyker pop did more damage

On the other, I don’t want to incentivize them to explode

Because they don’t need any more than they already have

[fleet zealot]

this

[jade juniper]

what blessings do i run for tac axe

[fleet zealot]

i don't even think there should be a penance for it

[fleet zealot]

ht shred

[jade juniper]

ok

[misty mason]

Hard agree on Qunari looking goofy in veilguard

IDK wtf they were thinking for that one

[north sedge]

dunno why bioware changed their look every game

[stiff hawk]

I don't think it's that bad tbh but to each their own

[misty mason]

I think I know why they did it

But it didnt stop the goof

[stiff hawk]

But it is kinda funny how in DAO Stenn was basically just an extra-big dude. Then in DA2 Qunari turned into these inhuman ox people. Then in subsequent entries they turned more human-like again

[north sedge]

Remember when qunari were just thick grumpy humans, good times

[misty mason]

I think Inquisition they were still pretty bullish

[stiff hawk]

But it's probably just a necessary concession due to the character creator

[misty mason]

Hence Iron Bull

[stiff hawk]

If we keep in mind that DAV was stuck in development hell for a whole decade, everything starts making more sense. There was probably a whole lot of necessary corner-cutting behind the scenes just so they can put out a functional product.

[misty mason]

Apparently it was supposed to be a multiplayer live service

[hushed knoll]

Hello Doughthony I missed you

[stiff hawk]

Heard the same thing. From the looks of some mechanics I really wouldn't be surprised

Definitely a lot of leftover MMO DNA in the gameplay

[hushed knoll]

MMO DNA from hair left at the crime scene

Idk what that's supposed to mean nvm

[north sedge]

pregnant hulk

[hushed knoll]

I KNEW THATS WHY YOU DID GREEN PREGNANT MAN

[frozen kernel]

Dragon Age Origins just just missed the window where they probably would’ve tried launching a shitty Dragon Age Online if it was more successful

[stiff hawk]

Basically game features that seem like leftovers from back when the game was supposed to be an MMO

[frozen kernel]

360/PS3 era was full of so many weird movie and show tie in games and MMO’s

[fleet zealot]

oh yea

i know why they cut out keep

and I don't blame them for it

[frozen kernel]

Anybody remember Defiance?

[fleet zealot]

making a flexible world state for 3 massive rpg's worth of choices is enough to make a developer break down and cry

[stiff hawk]

To be fair, I don't think any of the DA games actually imported that many choices from previous games anyway

[fleet zealot]

ehh, inquisition did a lot of little imports

[stiff hawk]

Like Inquisition was pretty much just a small handful of major choices, and DA2 had almost nothing

[fleet zealot]

and also i believe VG does have ||Zevran no?||

[frozen kernel]

IMO the whole importing saves thing was a cool novelty of the time, but we don’t necessarily need it if it’s going to add so much to development

[fleet zealot]

maybe not in the forefront but inquisition had a ton of notes and small interactions you could get, it was really nice to recognize them after a long multiweek session of dragon age i did for preparation of dreadwolf

[frozen kernel]

I’m okay with each installment in a series being kind of one off’s

[fleet zealot]

yea, same way I feel about andromeda, it's something I would like, but it's not something that is feasible for modern game companies,

[frozen kernel]

That’s the thing too

[unique elbow]

whatever you're complaining about with bioware games, they've always been this way and get off my lawn

[frozen kernel]

Andromeda we were so far from everything…would my saves really matter?

[stiff hawk]

I might get crucified for this but I actually really enjoyed Andromeda 👀

[fleet zealot]

even if developers want to do it, they have to get approval from management

[frozen kernel]

Does hearing a name drop like “oh shepherd fuckin wiped out the rachni lmao”

really do that much for me?

Nah