zealot-class

[hexed igloo]

You the only mf I've ever heard of that even considered doing thst

Get out

[final mural]

pizza crust in diet coke sounds fucking insane

[grand tangle]

would you dip diet pizza into classic coke?

[hushed knoll]

Ye

[final mural]

i kinda wanna try it if i ever end up with some coke and a pizza tho

[hushed knoll]

In fact I have

[hexed igloo]

On God how did bro even think to do that

[obsidian prairie]

Stan eats tacos in a bowl with utensils

Cold mashed potatoes with ketchup

[hexed igloo]

Stan needs electroshock therapy or something bro

[grand tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-eww-nasty-get-away-bad-gif-18139806

[hexed igloo]

A lobotomy maybe

[final mural]

stan is fucking innovating

[hushed knoll]

I don't eat mashed potatoes with ketchup that's gross

[final mural]

thats too far??

[hushed knoll]

I eat cold mac and cheese with ketchup

[hexed igloo]

That's where you draw the line?

[placid fiber]

The hard shell taco variety... while the taco shell is whole... that's what stan does to his tacos...

[final mural]

how do you use a knife and fork for a fucking taco

[hushed knoll]

Look at my pfp

[obsidian prairie]

He holds it

[grand tangle]

with skill

[final mural]

LMAO

[obsidian prairie]

From the bottom

[final mural]

holy shit i love it

[placid fiber]

So he doesn't "get carpal tunnel" iirc

[obsidian prairie]

And then positions it so everything falls out

[obsidian prairie]

Bottom of shell is perpendicular to the table

[hexed igloo]

Jail

Federal prison

[final mural]

this is so creative

[obsidian prairie]

Actual fucking insane person

One of the few people I have asked to keep themselves safe on discord

[grand tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-ayo-wtf-bruh-moment-gif-21632234

[final mural]

i love you taco stan never change

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

What does this mean

[placid fiber]

Oh no! Not my mostly damage dumped knife on my vet from melk!

[final mural]

diet coke as a dipping sauce for pizza, tacos with a knife and fork

[hexed igloo]

I dunno you've been kinda hostile to me

But also supportive at the same time

[final mural]

the internet is wild

[hexed igloo]

I just eat 3 packet instant noodle

[obsidian prairie]

I have strong opinions

[final mural]

raw instant noodles pog

[hexed igloo]

Thats fair

[hexed igloo]

Nah nah I make it taste good

[hushed knoll]

My aunt makes a good cole slaw with instant ramen noodles, vinegar, and cashews

Hard ramen noodles

[hexed igloo]

Fry them, make them into curry, whatever

Your whole family is fuckin deranged I guess

[obsidian prairie]

Oh gods the curse is hereditary

[hushed knoll]

Oooo maybe my aunt will make mayonnaise chicken for Christmas

[final mural]

this is just like a meal of straight things thrown together

[hushed knoll]

And I can eat the drippings

[hexed igloo]

God I pray I don't get given mayonnaise chicken ill be throwing hands

I'm going to conceal carry a .45 just in fucking case my great-aunt puts a plate of fucking mayonnaise chicken on the table

[copper hawk]

Lmfao every furry i see in this chat is friends w gale too

[final mural]

ive done like...mayo marinades for chicken breasts/thighs atleast

[hexed igloo]

Gale is the most furry name I've ever heard

[placid fiber]

This isn't real, right guys? I have to be hallucinating that there's anything halfway salvagable from Melk...

[final mural]

lmaooo hey i was just asking for build help at some point ok

[copper hawk]

Gale how r u guys so well connected @sullen forge

[final mural]

hive mind

[copper hawk]

Troo

[hushed knoll]

Mayonnaise encrusted chicken is so good

[copper hawk]

I HATE KOBOLDZ !!

[copper hawk]

Kobold is scale goblin.. gobble deez nutz.. foul critterz..

[final mural]

[copper hawk]

Kill them all ..

[hushed knoll]

@hexed igloo

[hexed igloo]

The mind goblins are the wors5

[final mural]

can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting staurs

[hexed igloo]

Didn't ask

Mayo chicken is a warcrime

[hushed knoll]

It look good tho

You can't deny

[hexed igloo]

I can and I am

It looks like it tastes of suburbia

[final mural]

what am i even witnessing here

it looks all goopy underneath the crusted bit

[hexed igloo]

It tastes like a single mothers pain

[frozen glen]

stan seasons his food with mayo

[placid fiber]

The horror that is stan food takes

[hushed knoll]

Yes it's amazing

It's mayo

[hexed igloo]

No what the fuck

[final mural]

i feel like im going insane lmao

[hushed knoll]

Hence mayonnaise encrusted chicken

[hexed igloo]

Bro for real

[placid fiber]

No, stan is just mind fucking you <.<

[hexed igloo]

Please say sike please God say sike

[hushed knoll]

And then you can eat the drippings at the bottom of the pan

[hushed knoll]

So good

[hexed igloo]

Nah I eat some heinous shit, I am not fucking eating mayo chicken drippings

[sullen forge]

We are many you are but one

[final mural]

and people use britain as the butt of food jokes

[hushed knoll]

Britain has good food

[placid fiber]

Stan: stop traumatizing the fresh meat

[opal star]

such as

[hexed igloo]

Middle class American is truly the worst food conceived

[hushed knoll]

Meat pies

[final mural]

youre not helping my case plsplsplsplspls

[sullen forge]

^^^

[final mural]

ok yeah meat pies are good shit

[sullen forge]

Holy shit

[hushed knoll]

Are you British

[final mural]

yeah

[hushed knoll]

Are you from Manchester

[hexed igloo]

Yall pies ain't got shit on NZ pies

[sullen forge]

Most mid of foods out there is that

[final mural]

scarily close guess but no lmao

[hushed knoll]

Are you from NZ

[hexed igloo]

No

[hushed knoll]

I can hear it in your accent

[hexed igloo]

I'm from Nicaragua

[final mural]

from that place with the funny beatles people

you havent even heard me

[hushed knoll]

I don't lik the beatles

[hexed igloo]

Too insect

[hushed knoll]

My eyes have heard you

[final mural]

this is fucking ominous when i havent vced in here once

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986389499032510574/1316520696624709714/SketchpadTDOS_-_1866931972477686195.gif

[hexed igloo]

It's the way you type bruv

[final mural]

innit maaate

[hexed igloo]

You type like a middle class brit

[hushed knoll]

Never been but my sister and mom have

[final mural]

northern working class

[delicate shadow]

nothin' wrong with that

[hushed knoll]

I love the Northern british accent

[sullen forge]

Complete 180

LMAO

[hexed igloo]

You get many roadmen out there

[sterile stone]

Nah like I dunno where to even go with the build

[final mural]

loads of dodgy shit around where i live in fairness

[sterile stone]

I am not ziplock main

[final mural]

dont really call them roadmen here

[hushed knoll]

Do you like tea or coffee

[final mural]

more of a coffee guy usually but tea tastes better tbh

[obsidian prairie]

Tea

[final mural]

i go through phases of tea binging

[hexed igloo]

Awhile back I had a young black brit come into my shop, and he talked fucking exactly like the roadmen you see in brit movies bro it was crazy

[sullen forge]

Holy based

[hushed knoll]

I love the northern accent when they say things like "come"

[sullen forge]

If I have too I do Coffee

[hushed knoll]

The vowel is sick

[delicate shadow]

idk just run the generic flamer build and go ham

[final mural]

lmfao

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/meowscles-fortnite-dance-everybody-loves-me-dougie-gif-23304154

[final mural]

theyre called scallies here, only just realised a bit ago that its probably short for scallywags which is so fucking dumb

[hexed igloo]

It was actually insane like bro how you live like that

[hushed knoll]

I HATE FORTNITE DANCES

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gangster-wrong-block-gif-9653288440634103559

[hushed knoll]

I was gonna say scally

[sterile stone]

Word

[hexed igloo]

Scalies

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/majorette-meowscles-fortnite-classy-gif-2316670675554122935

[hushed knoll]

Victuals no

[hexed igloo]

I love fortnite dances

[hushed knoll]

No

[final mural]

we like fortnite we like fortnite

[hexed igloo]

It's so funny to kill someone and hit the griddy

[hushed knoll]

No

I HATE THE GRIDDY

[sullen forge]

Victuals do you have him doing the griddy

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/no-ugh-hate-annoyed-upset-gif-4248300

[sullen forge]

Thanks

[hexed igloo]

#1 victory Royale yeah fortnite we bout to get down

[hushed knoll]

No

[hexed igloo]

10 kill on the board right now, just wiped out tomato town

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/meowscles-fortnite-griddy-emote-dance-gif-25043827

[hushed knoll]

Just joking lmao

[hexed igloo]

Fuck yeah

[hushed knoll]

NO

[sullen forge]

PEAK

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-get-griddy-fortnite-right-foot-creep-sir-hitting-the-griddy-gif-26556108

[sullen forge]

Okay Joe

[obsidian prairie]

The hampster chef

[sullen forge]

Right foot green

[hexed igloo]

Sometimes I be hitting the griddy across the room to my gf to kiss her on the head and run away

[sullen forge]

I’ll run over to my friends within a solid 2 frames

[hexed igloo]

We just got a cat I'm gonna teach it to griddy

[sullen forge]

Like a bit from smiling friends

[final mural]

meant to be doing uni work and ive been sat here for nearly an hour talking about eating tacos with a knife and fork wtf

[obsidian prairie]

The Zealot Chat Experience™️

[hexed igloo]

Uni is cringe unless it's uni the cat

[sullen forge]

I think you should do your uni work….

Unless it’s like a small portion and isn’t due till like a week from now

[hexed igloo]

You should go on a rabbit hole on YouTube of mantis shrimp fighting various other crustaceans

[final mural]

building a robot and programming it in some simulation software, havent started, due in a week

its over

[hexed igloo]

One time I spent the hours between 11pm and 5am just watching mantis shrimp fight shit like lobsters and crayfish

It was pretty fire

[placid fiber]

Welp... guess I'm gonna play some vet tonight... at least I have a heavy sword on them. :/

[sullen forge]

Yeah me thinks you should work on the programming right now

[vale narwhal]

Couple questions:
-what are the most successful melee weapon choices for zealot pre havoc?
-is there a good reference document that goes through the main role and uses of the current viable melee weapons?

[final mural]

im doin it im doin it

[obsidian prairie]

1. you can run literally everything but the high performers are dueling sword, power greatsword, and rashad combat axe
2. not yet

[sullen forge]

I’m working on it!

[copper hawk]

Grubs

Grubs everywhere

Wait srry that's a slur

Gr*bs

[vale narwhal]

I love DS and Rashad on my veteran. Been testing eviscerator, thunder hammer and runic on my young zealot so far

[obsidian prairie]

Evisc is just worse PGS

Its very sad

[misty nova]

The current viable weapons? All of them

[obsidian prairie]

I've alerted meow haven't I

[misty nova]

Except Shredder Auto Pistol

[hushed knoll]

Who is meow

[hushed knoll]

Nothing wrong with that

[obsidian prairie]

I'd ask if you're dense but I know the answer

[hushed knoll]

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ridewithp-lovelypeaches-gif-21241255

[hushed knoll]

Monkeys can't eat pizza

[north sedge]

i mean, that monkey clearly is

[obsidian prairie]

Fuck you mean pizza

[misty nova]

That monkey's karking balling

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-monke-monkey-solana-gif-11819718063681288854

[hushed knoll]

No

[hushed knoll]

What

[hushed knoll]

It shouldn't be

[obsidian prairie]

Thats a quesadilla

I think

[hushed knoll]

Oh

Monkeys can't eat quesadillas

[obsidian prairie]

You happen to be incorrect

[hushed knoll]

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ridewithp-lovelypeaches-gif-21241255

[hard nexus]

hi

[hard nexus]

yeah

frown

[merry flume]

phage tree is the worst final event

the average person is way too stupid to figure out how to do the puzzle plus know when to do it

or you have a team full of scoreboard mod users that just run off to kill a buncha shit

[clever swan]

believe it or not the key to it probably is to kill a buncha shit

[merry flume]

yeah close to the objective

not in any of the closets

or on the catwalk

or the other side of the tree

[visual stream]

It can be one of the best for fun/challenge factor though

Would rather deal with phage tree with bad teammates than Comms-Plex finale at all

[hushed knoll]

No

[placid fiber]

How much hp do plague ogryns have on damnation?

60k?

[hexed igloo]

It's crazy people don't do it once and then have the hang of it

I realized what to do about halfway through my first phage tree

[polar nexus]

Yes 60k

[visual stream]

What gun is good into unyielding on psyker

[polar nexus]

Vraks iag

Recon 14

[visual stream]

Good for boss damage?

[polar nexus]

Lapistol mk2

Yeah

[visual stream]

How would you build that recon for it?

I've tried all of the marks I think with HH/Infernus and it feels slow

[polar nexus]

You can check pygex's guide

I use dumdum infernus with scryers

I think Vraks is still faster

[visual stream]

That's the one that used to be CIAG, right?

[polar nexus]

Yep

[visual stream]

Ty ty

[polar nexus]

I go dd scryers and true aim

[visual stream]

HH is a bit overkill with true aim on I suppose

[polar nexus]

Pathing through the +5 crit

[visual stream]

It feels good to have so much sustain shitting crits out though

Should try that

[polar nexus]

Yep but overall I think dumdum is better

Well it's a matter of testing

[fleet zealot]

yea i think true aim and headhunter have anti synergy

iirc

you want one or the other

[silent chasm]

how's the new swords

I haven't been able 2 play yet r they good

[obsidian prairie]

Amazing

[polar nexus]

Good but not mobile

[obsidian prairie]

They are like

Actually balanced

[fleet zealot]

good, slow, but scale up to havoc

[hushed knoll]

Hello Keet

[silent chasm]

I use the thunder hammer rn so

[obsidian prairie]

They require you to think while using them

[silent chasm]

slow not an issue

[obsidian prairie]

Its super neat

[polar nexus]

Hello stan

[hushed knoll]

You’re up late

[polar nexus]

You are going to be so fast you'll be flying

[silent chasm]

I am war

[polar nexus]

Yeah true.. I need to bedge

[visual stream]

Me spamming looping horiz. heavies

I should try the other mark

[obsidian prairie]

I use mk2

The uppercut is so peak

FotF crusher oneshots

[potent gate]

Hitting headshots on the uppercut can be more effort than it's worth tbh sometimes

[obsidian prairie]

Not really

Its pretty easy

You just look up and to the left

[polar nexus]

Maybe it's effort for some lol

[twin wagon]

It's like hitting someone with a toe drag

[obsidian prairie]

Why does discord ping for reacts now

[median steeple]

it's so bad now

[misty ravine]

It's true though, the Relic Blade feels like one of the few low-mobility weapons that's actually killy enough to justify it

[visual stream]

Give it chorus and IoD and you're a walking tank

Strange playstyle but fun

[misty ravine]

Finish Chorus and the blade is fully cooled, it's the perfect system

[long oasis]

why is the pregant man golden

Is he the emperor

[plush estuary]

here is yours

[long oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749799445478244393/1265479387571159182/crackbert.gif

[violet hornet]

He has a certain glow to him

[delicate shadow]

gregnant

[vivid spindle]

Pregante

Pergernant

[warm rapids]

so i got silent ragers in my games

they spawn next to me

[outer gulch]

did they give you a little sweet kiss

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131392927231385731/1317307942663356467/HELLDIVERSTM_2_-_2024-12-13_8-50-50_PM.mp4?ex=675e361f&is=675ce49f&hm=dec2b1db8869b7981e02f0771f468df4a98674cbc1fb2fad678dfcfbb468689e&

[opal star]

aw hell naw bro got the shock maul

[buoyant pewter]

How’s eviscerator crit chance

Shred included

Better question. How does this build look for havoc, if I’m using Eviscerator with rampage shred

Id like to think it’s a generally viable build for two handed weapons but I’m pretty new to zealot all things considered

[misty nova]

No duelist

[buoyant pewter]

What do you suggest I get rid of

[tropic pelican]

good balance if you're already going crit tdr

i'd also go right side under piety

[buoyant pewter]

🫡

Heard

A part of me thinks I’d operate better using martyrdom but a part of me also knows I’m not good enough to make good use of martyrdom

[ornate bone]

I am trying out a weird build right now

Bolter and Thunder Hammer

It works and it's fun but it is so reliant on mates to help with hordes it hurts

[gleaming kelp]

FUCK. Damnation run was smooth till the Vet pushed ahead of us

[visual stream]

Do you have the upgrade under Stalwart on your keystone?

If so cut that upgrade for Duellist

[visual stream]

Use Ironhelm instead of Crucis

Horde clear problem much better

I use both of those together as my main build

[median shoal]

Best builds involving Devil's Claw?

[ornate bone]

Is it the other Mark on the Thunderhammer?

I haven't unlocked it yet

[visual stream]

Builds that don't involve Devil's Claw

That's a joke

Use Inexorable Judgement and FotF with a ranged weapon that can kill cara and you should be good

Get crit CDR

[visual stream]

Yep yep

[buoyant pewter]

I’ve now noticed that I am not in fact ready for havoc

Damn they chewed me tf up

[placid fiber]

Huh... I was unintentionally doing this penance on my oggy, any time I took my gunlugger build lol

[ornate bone]

I'll unlock it first and then have fun with it

[visual stream]

A fully built Ironhelm can one shot any non-boss enemy just like the Crucis and the only thing it loses is a bit of boss damage when you know what you're doing with it

[ornate bone]

I am using Chorus on the build, as i am trying to be a heavy support Zealot

But i don't know if i should be going Piety or another Keystone

[median shoal]

Anti-Cara recommendations?

[visual stream]

Inexorable Judgement is best for thammer, that or Martyrdom but IJ is more fun for me

Thammer crit mods are just not gud

[visual stream]

Bolter is very gud

Revolver too

[buoyant pewter]

Is havoc just mad crazy or does my build just suck? Like I wasn’t even in a super high havoc 😭

Actually correction “or do I just suck”

[ornate bone]

They're kinda unnecessary

T Hammer already 1 shots all non boss enemies

[spare talon]

what rank of havoc

[buoyant pewter]

Only 24

[visual stream]

And when you do crit it just doesn't do much

[buoyant pewter]

I finished a 21 with friends before

[visual stream]

Versus just grabbing raw damage from IJ

[spare talon]

21+ is when the difficulty actually kicks on tbf

[buoyant pewter]

Ah

So I just suck

Word

[spare talon]

havoc ends up being more about having the right tools and plan to deal with any situation as a team

you cant really do it all yourself anymore, its too dangerous for that now

[buoyant pewter]

Swapped good balance for duelist. How’s this, as a tool? I’m running evis with rampage and shred and flamer with BA and pen flames

Don’t sugar coat it either, clearly I need help

[modern lintel]

implanting the brains worms to make you compulsively try and solo hav 40 rn

[spare talon]

that build is actually exactly what i ran with my ds and flamer tbh

[buoyant pewter]

Oh damn

So it IS that I just suck

[spare talon]

a huge factor in havoc is also being patient too

[buoyant pewter]

True yeah

[spare talon]

you can back up, not doing that when you need to is probably the easiest way to die

you can chip away through the mission, dealing with whatever is in front of you first

backing up to an ideal location whenever a more dangerous situation is present

it actually gets comically easy when you have a team on the same page with this

[rocky nacelle]

GMs

[spare talon]

they really are just GMs

[merry flume]

gay mario

[rocky nacelle]

real losers know that acronym

sadly

[gleaming furnace]

[ornate bone]

@visual stream Do you recommend benediction or beacon of Purity?

[merry flume]

me when the only destiny raid ive ever done was vault of glass

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touching-grass-destiny-2-destiny-gif-9101972418909821881

[lunar fable]

King's fall

[spare talon]

at least 1 beacon is always nice to be safe, and very highly recommended when blight spreads is a modifier

[merry flume]

i got out when destiny was still fun

😏

[visual compass]

Gotta say now that I've finished my Havoc climb, I enjoy how the difficulty brought out opportunities for different style builds to shine.

[gleaming furnace]

Zealot chat what do I want on tac axe ?

[spare talon]

which one

[gleaming furnace]

Idk

[merry flume]

the funny full impact crusher build

[gleaming furnace]

Which one do I want

[visual compass]

I use Agile/BM on mine.

[spare talon]

mk2 can use BM/headtaker or shred/ht
mk7 really likes BM/headtaker

do not use agile

on anything

[visual compass]

Meh

[merry flume]

agile is funny

[spare talon]

agile is in direct competition with headtaker here
idk man

shred too

[visual compass]

It lets me be immortal via dodgespam

[merry flume]

yeah but then you get to spam dodges without thinking

[visual compass]

So idk

[spare talon]

proper dodge management does that too

without needing a blessing slot

[lunar fable]

Agile ds users be like

[spare talon]

one that does hit breakpoints btw

[merry flume]

have you considered the fun factor and not the tryhard factor 😏

[spare talon]

which is even more important on a BM weapon

[merry flume]

wish agile and backstab talents were on the same weapon i'd use them

[spare talon]

agile would be fun if it came on weapons that didnt have a bajillion dodges by default

not ideal still but fun

[merry flume]

agile knife when

[rocky nacelle]

Agile crusher

[gleaming furnace]

Flakiac on this thing ?

[merry flume]

agile crusher would prob make it the best wep in the game tbh

[rocky nacelle]

Infinite dodges on a CC Stat Stick?

cmon now

Hell yeah

[merry flume]

you could just teleport from enemy to enemy and special attack stagger everything lmao

[spare talon]

but im of the opinion that agile is extremely terrible and too overpowered at the same time
it is just a blessing that should never have been made

[merry flume]

bm is a bad talent i hate it

[visual compass]

Yeah but being able to dodge dance infinitely against melee while also having the ability to quickly refresh the defensive capabilities to also be able to afford to dodge all ranged attacks has made it a must have for my survivability.

Sure you can do without it, but I enjoy not dying.

[ornate bone]

Did i cook or burn the kitchen down? Spearhead+Thunderhammer

[merry flume]

idk about all of that but it's fun so i agree

[lunar fable]

You can also not die without agile

[rocky nacelle]

There is no kitchen

[lunar fable]

[rocky nacelle]

it’s gone

[spare talon]

i think you burned the city down

[ornate bone]

[merry flume]

blab hit me with the funniest image youve seen today

[ornate bone]

It's thunderhammer, so i don't really need crit damage boosts

[lunar fable]

I got nothing today

Here's a dog

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-james-king-of-queens-tv-land-empty-pockets-poor-gif-10031401

[rocky nacelle]

duelist is weak spot damage too you know

not just crit

it’s precog on crack cocainum

[spare talon]

so what is the goal of this build
are you just trying to make a book build and using thammer as the weapon for it?
are you just generally messing around with stuff in the tree with thammer?

[hard nexus]

burned it down

extremely bad

[visual compass]

Oh sure, in most cases it's not that important, but when you're clutching in Havoc you need to be able to dodge literally everything all at once.

[spare talon]

im not trying to shit talk im trying to see how we can make it better to fit that goal

[merry flume]

agile sucks because now my dodge mod is invalid 😠

give me one havoc but with melee only

[zinc talon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ukzJWK0sKpY

[ornate bone]

I want to try to play a Heavier playstyle. Where i focus a bit more on the bigger targets with Thunder Hammer and Boltgun

[visual compass]

Either way, Agile Precognition on DS 5 is smooth sailing.

[zinc talon]

^pretty funny

[ornate bone]

And Chorus to help mates and cover for reses

[spare talon]

so more thunderhammer leaning right

[ornate bone]

Yeah, boltgun doesn't really need much for it to work

It just fucks on it's own

[zinc talon]

boltgun is an excellent choice

[zinc talon]

you might consider the bolt pistol as well

if you're gunning for long distancae specials

just as accurate, lil slower to fire, but only ever single shots

[ornate bone]

But i am also really going for Chorus cause i noticed how important it is on higher diffs

And Havoc

[zinc talon]

right on

I am an unrepentant relic user so can't comment on chorus

also, the crusher can really ruin some heretic vibes too if its style is something you enjoy

[spare talon]

it is worth noting that in doing so you drastically drop your killing power across the board, against big targets with the 100% rending melee crit hit from fotf, and the lack of the 20% atk speed from the duration buff after the fact against everything else

[zinc talon]

is true

but still great for mostly melee runs and whatnot

but yes lil niche in its intent

[ornate bone]

I've been playing Veteran until now and I've been watching Zealots on Havoc and higher diffs and uou either have Kitchen knife tiny stealth zealots, Chorus people that help a lot or berserkers. I rather be Chorus and help

I got carried so hard by this dude who was playing tiny zealot once

Bro was a god

[spare talon]

you could push for this, but chorus wont have much uptime compared to a crit cdr build

[ornate bone]

I am on controller and i can't pull the flicks he was doing

[ornate bone]

I'll experiment. But i enjoy how Hammer and Bolter are good on their own and don't need 100 different perks to support them

[zinc talon]

valid

crusher is the same mostly

just works

[visual stream]

Benediction for general auric play, probs beacon for Havoc from what I hear

[spare talon]

TWBS tho is very big for hammer cuz of how slow it is on heavies compared to other weapons

[zinc talon]

yes

....that's the 10% attack pip right

[ornate bone]

What's TWBS? I swear i am never gonna learn the names

[zinc talon]

thy wrath be swift, and PREACH

I still don't know any of em

[ornate bone]

Yeah the extra attack speed is important

On TH

Tbh i just love how i can just make anything flat with 1 charged up heavy attack

No button mashing. Just 1 big swing

[spare talon]

thats just 10% too
fotf buff is an additional 20% which you can see why i was saying how huge it ends up being

[spare talon]

what

[hard nexus]

it’s every zealot build ever

yellow is build dependent

[rocky nacelle]

“Generic zealot build” but it’s color coded like dog shit

I told her this

[hard nexus]

it’s color coded fine

i just don’t have a legend

or a key

[rocky nacelle]

green and red be simpler

[hard nexus]

i was lazy

[rocky nacelle]

not my issue noobling

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141605476807745606/1253751386651361300/attachment-41.gif

[placid fiber]

idk, guys, the damage on this bolter is a bit high... my vet will probably kill stuff with it still... :/

[red mesa]

is penetrating flame on high havoc worth it on zealot flamer? to help burn/bleed out with team the big armor squads

or nah?

ive heard mixedthings

[spare talon]

it can be significantly useful if your team has another source of reliable brittleness

[gleaming furnace]

Idk I’ve been wondering the same thing myself

[red mesa]

ok but only 1 isnt worth

[spare talon]

pen flames is its own debuff and thus can stack will all other sources

by itself its kinda meh for flamer

[gleaming furnace]

Is it the same debuff as the psyker version ?

[red mesa]

what about terrifying barrage to shoot bursts out and keep gunners suppressed, i havent tried it yet but in theory could be good, does it make any noticeable difference? (i know it never did in regular games)

[spare talon]

it is yes

cuz its the same blessing

[placid fiber]

The thunderous thammer the other chorus zealot has:

[spare talon]

but pen flames can stack with all other sources of brittleness cuz pen flames is its own unique debuff

[rocky nacelle]

basically psyker and zealot should flamethrower everything

[spare talon]

thunderous and rending shockwave are completely different blessings but share the same debuff, so they still both cap at 40 regardless

[placid fiber]

So shattering impact and pen flames will stack with eachother? (Not that it matters for the burn damage, since the bolter will melt the crusher with even more brittleness on it)

[red mesa]

oh flamer doesnt get terrifying barrage lol

why did i think it did

[spare talon]

but pen flames can add 20% more on top of that with its own cap up to 60

[spare talon]

yes

shattering/shockwave/thunderous all share the same debuff

[red mesa]

the idea is when you have flamer, psyker flames, and vet grenades the aoe brittlness makes it all tick for more

[spare talon]

all these sources contribute brittleness stacks toward the debuffs cap of 40%

[red mesa]

since they can be so tanky with pox hardnened

helps wittle the groups down while you cc it all etc

but ill have to look to see if we can add a second source

trauma is a good one

[gleaming furnace]

Am I crazy for rolling another flamer with penetrating and everlasting ?

[spare talon]

its not something you have to force tbh

flamer can just run 2 strength blessings to make when you use it more impactful

it is ammo based so you still have to use it in appropriate situations

[placid fiber]

@spare talon btw: any tips for perks to put on the shovel when you're primarily using it for horde clear and then using the folding attack for single target? I haven't put t4 blessings on this yet, but, I was probably gonna go with thrust + uncanny/skullcrusher <.<

[spare talon]

i dont know folding shovels

[gleaming furnace]

Yea uncanny thrust

[placid fiber]

I just kinda wish I liked the mk7 more, since I feel like it would make good use of skullcrusher if I had that instead of uncanny...

the mk7 has the same heavy side to side sweeps as the mk1 non-folding shovel x.x

[placid fiber]

All I can think of for this shovel is either flak + carapace or flak + unyielding for the perks. x.x

[gleaming furnace]

Maybe maniac carapace

Idk tho I don’t use it very often

[placid fiber]

I am using the mk3 since I do better with it... even tho you use lights(and maybe heavy 1) for horde clear instead of just heavy spamming like the other 2 mks of the shovel x.x

[gleaming kelp]

Is there anything shared between characters?

[tardy thicket]

brothers, is this worth upgrading with the max 60 on cleave

[long oasis]

all currencies and mastery is shared

[gleaming kelp]

Nice

[placid fiber]

Once you get perfect mastery, you can put 500 rated items on level 4 characters for the lulz lol

[peak cipher]

dump mobility

🙏

[delicate shadow]

they're like the standard shovels but with a hinge that allows the head to fold for storage and/or multi-tool-like functionality

hope that helps

[tardy thicket]

wait huh, I can dump that stat to upgrade cleave?

[peak cipher]

you can buy more until the dump is mobility

[tardy thicket]

i haven't touched the game since they added this system in

[buoyant pewter]

Don’t ever mention anything d2 related in my presence

I hate that game and spent thousands of hours on it

[gleaming furnace]

Yes. It’s what you want

One of the few weapons that doesn’t dump mobility

[rocky nacelle]

too late when you play havocs you’ll realize it’s just GMs

[buoyant pewter]

Ugh

Dammit

I rly don’t want to bring flamer I just do not enjoy it

I’m j not really a big fan of ranged weapons

Maybe if bistol was worth bringing ig

[vague depot]

Laspistol ghost is also alright

[visual stream]

It's fun but mostly on vet

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah I play on console so ghost is kind of a nightmare

[vague depot]

Unfortunate

[visual stream]

To me at least

[buoyant pewter]

Is there like any way to bring bistol into havoc or is it just a wasted slot

Bistol or maybe one of the vigilant ag

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-do-a-back-flip-gif-15498679784377498556

[median steeple]

shovel that turns into a shield

real ww1 vibes

[rocky nacelle]

Shield that turns into a chainsaw

doom or 40k I guess still

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

Doom has one, iirc

[drowsy steppe]

shovel mentioned in the presence of a kireger

[rocky nacelle]

I said doom

and iirc 40k actually has a chain shield

so yea statement still stands

[buoyant pewter]

Honestly if Ogryn got a chain melee I’d go back to Ogryn I think. That was my main before, I was just tired of never getting weapons I liked

[drowsy steppe]

Ive never enjoyed playing Oggy

[buoyant pewter]

It’s by far my favorite gameplay-wise, I just, don’t rly like any of their weapons.

Which I mean is a major disappointment considering they have such potential

They have two handed weapons but they just like,,, feel boring to me. Zealot has crazy ass two handed weapons

Honestly fuck it just give me a giant Eviscerator

Just look at muh big gorgeous man

[gleaming kelp]

Is the grenade gauntlet viable?

[buoyant pewter]

I like it

Needs some TLC from obese whale though

Mechanically speaking, it’s my favorite ranged weapon in the game. Execution? It’s ok at best.

[gleaming kelp]

Ah I see. I always see stubbers or kickbacks

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah. Not like we have a lot of options tbh

[gleaming kelp]

True

[outer gulch]

pubs have healed from the update

i get real players now

[lunar fable]

[vague snow]

[hexed igloo]

Fuck I hate summer bro

I step outside and even the fuckin breeze is hot

[sterile stone]

Fake Bretonian sword

[drowsy steppe]

the cooler french sword

[ornate bone]

Should I get vermintide 2?

[placid fiber]

lol... most of the family tree are pacifists this time, I love this kinda stupid shit in rogue legacy 2 lol

[sullen forge]

The post was sponsored by WW1 Snipers

[hexed igloo]

If u want

It's just darktide but older pretty much

It's a little clunky sometimes but otherwise pretty solid

[long oasis]

dwarf

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-vermintide-dwarf-warhammer-gif-23354885

[vague depot]

I think it’s time to try a new class

I’m going melee psyker I’ll see you all in a week

[hidden grove]

what's the dump stat for relic blade, mobility?

[long oasis]

@hidden grove Yes. look at this post for all the info

[thorny vault]

Can anyone help me with Just a flesh wound penance?

[vague depot]

Ping ainz when they are online

[drowsy steppe]

heat management or mobility

but mobility safest

just dont have it drop below 60% or you get 1 less effective dodge

[visual compass]

Ngl

Helbore with Surgical and Armorbane kinda fucks on Vet

Infinite ammo sniper with Shock Trooper

Works amazing on Havoc when you just need to let an ally have all the ammo

Or when you've got a pesky gun line you need to whittle down

[opaque island]

i wonder if burblespue halescourge is a possible captain name, it fits pretty well

[sinful glen]

def

[hard nexus]

who up burblin

[opaque island]

when she burble your scourge till you spue hale

[polar nexus]

I would aim for a 70/70 split

[placid fiber]

I'm pretty sure it's below 51% mobility, like on all of the other weapons

Unless there's something I don't know

[placid fiber]

That guy is more annoying than he is hard in vt2. :/

[mighty mesa]

tru

[opaque island]

now that i know you wanna stay away from him when he's teleporting around instead of charging him like a dummy, i get it now and he's easier than i thought

[placid fiber]

You gotta chase him down, dodge his bullshit, and avoid the center if you don't do enough dps fast enough

iirc on the last part, I haven't fought him in ages lol

Actually... now that I think of it... aside from the unique rat ogre with miniguns in the last mission in the main campaign... all other story bosses are just more annoying than they are difficult... :/

except for maybe the chaos warrior one, he's kinda cool

[opaque island]

if you chase him down you cant dodge his targetted triple shot spue

[placid fiber]

It's a mix of chasing him and running away iirc

[opaque island]

the one that turns into chaos spawn or the one that calls in adds after he says he'll fight you by himself

[placid fiber]

Eh... both tbh

A chaos warrior boss turning into a spawn is pretty cool

The other one is just a lil bitch

[opaque island]

ive had matches where the guy goes to turn into a spawn and we do so much damage before he turns that he dies instantly

[placid fiber]

Been there lol

[opaque island]

hilarious honestly, also why do more people not do the 4 corners strat against rasknitts teleporting

[placid fiber]

And then somehow we mess up our communication for the final boss... and 1-3 people get downed by the ratogre with miniguns

Because... communication with randos is dodgy at best

[opaque island]

true and real

[placid fiber]

Some might say something, a lot won't

[opaque island]

it always hurts wiping on him after doing well the whole mission through

[placid fiber]

You can usually tell they have a somewhat okay sense of humor when I throw in my "dibs on dying 1st to the daemonhost, burgle, crusher gang wombo combo" and they add a joke in reaction to that lol

One was like "aw man, I wanted to do that..."

[opaque island]

NOT IF I DO IT FIRST!

[placid fiber]

Fine! I'll die by the daemonhost gang then! 😠

[opaque island]

ive only ever seen daemonhosts spawn close together once

[placid fiber]

There's something fatshark could do that they haven't: Do something where you can have multiple daemonhosts spawn next to eachother

[opaque island]

and im convinced it was a bug or just really weird spawns on a map with weird area markers or something

[placid fiber]

probably a bug

[calm wolf]

good morning, what ranged weapons yall use on havoc?

[opaque island]

before i go to bed whats the craziest situation you've survived dark

[red swift]

Bolter mostly, Flamer when i'm using knife

[opaque island]

shredder autopistol

:^)

[red swift]

AAAAAHAHAHAHA

yes use the autopistol

[twin wagon]

[calm wolf]

and how did you build your bolter? I fill like mine could use some optimisation

[twin wagon]

Bilstol for bigger grenade

[placid fiber]

There ye go, you earned it.

[red swift]

I don't like cavalcade because it wants you to ammo dump, and ammo is scarce. I use Puncture for bleeding bosses and hitting some breakpoints. Also it helps with scourge stacks in niche scenarios which is nice

[placid fiber]

I had to dig through my solo dm channel for that lol

[red swift]

other than that my bolter is the same

[calm wolf]

pinning fire is worth it?

[red swift]

yeah pinning is a staple

[placid fiber]

Not really, most of the time

[red swift]

30% dam basically

[calm wolf]

and shattering impact?

[opaque island]

you never answered my question, whats the craziest shit you've survived that you feel you really shoudnt have

[red swift]

stack it on some mobs, then shoot a boss

[calm wolf]

i feel like with shattering impact crushers go down faster

[red swift]

eh shattering wants you to ammo dump carapace too, it doesn't save much ammo overall

but it's not bad

I just don't like the ammo dump blessings

even though you will spray and pray here and there

[spare talon]

shattering/puncture is a god combo

[red swift]

it's a good combo

[calm wolf]

gonna try it out

[red swift]

I have cara on my relic blade and I just kill crushers

I shoot other elites and specialists a lot more

[steep flame]

not too fond of the new weapon grind

[vague depot]

Cole do you have experience with psyker

[calm wolf]

Corruption res on curios is worth it as a zealot? I feel like it does rally little since Im already using beacon of purity

[placid fiber]

The fucking auric maelstrom I got dragged into on my oggy by Yamato. Me and Argus got dragged into that... and then on top of that and these modifiers he put us in an asia server(150+ ping for me and argus lol)... I only went down once at the end and I had to solo clutch that shit... and that was the first maelstrom I did in months lol

[calm wolf]

dude.. before was way worse

[steep flame]

disagreed

you were just unlucky

[calm wolf]

So you like gambling

ok

[opaque island]

god damn, talk about a warm up!

[placid fiber]

Not much can top that shit. I was insanely auric and maelstrom rusty lol

[opaque island]

150+ ping in a game like darktide is no joke either

[placid fiber]

And the thing that downed me was the assassination boss iirc lol

we still won that run tho

I didn't die <.<'

[steep flame]

i dont think ive completed one single auric yet

[spare talon]

kinda
why

[urban sundial]

support zealot, benediction or beacon of purity

[vague depot]

I want to try playing melee psyker

And then maybe a bit of gun psyker

[red swift]

Charge, big sword, benediction, huge testicles.

[vague depot]

And eventually I guess normal psyker but none of that smite or macro bs

[urban sundial]

love me hamma neva gon stop usin me hamma

[placid fiber]

I pulled every fucking dirty trick I could to survive during that solo clutch lol

[red swift]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ca962fe-05a2-405e-83da-d2f230bdf332/soulblaze-gunpsyker-havoc

not my build btw so no flaming me this time

[vague depot]

I don’t like lasgun or smite

[red swift]

lasgun is goated with the sauce homedog

[vague depot]

Ok yes so is knife

Doesn’t change that I don’t like them

[red swift]

just use the uuh kraks or whatever columnus is now

[spare talon]

this is what i use with the greatsword
but im not logging on to check where that last point goes that i forgot lmao

as like a purely melee focused build

[red swift]

the pox defense doesn't block against DoTs, so infernus is even better

[placid fiber]

I honestly need to play more aurics and maelstroms... just not with 3 randos. Fuck that, that's why I don't play aurics or maelstroms almost ever... cuz I'm unwilling to do it with 3 randos lol

[red swift]

No psykinetic's aura? Mods, rupture his brain

[spare talon]

you have scriers

[vague depot]

Alright thanks

[spare talon]

thats a 2.5s difference

[red swift]

I dig the selfishness

I get scriers doesnt use the cdr it's just for the team

[vague depot]

I’ll be back to pester you for blessings and whatnot in a few days

[spare talon]

vs 5% crit chance which both is big for your finesse weapon and also survivability via EE

and mettle

and perfect timing

[red swift]

what weapon are you using

with the recon lasgun getting EE procs is really no issue no matter which aura you have

[spare talon]

this was a pure melee build

ranged was trauma for creating space if needed

[red swift]

oh

[vague depot]

Is trauma the exploding balls

[red swift]

u weirdo

[spare talon]

its literally

[copper hawk]

Go 2 bed cole

[spare talon]

a melee build

[copper hawk]

U fweak

[spare talon]

which is what he asked for

[vague depot]

Yea

[copper hawk]

Or ill knock u the flipper out,,

[placid fiber]

trauma is the circle of aoe stagger damage

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809789166464270363/1299024218070974549/caption.gif

[red swift]

this build is melee basically

[vague depot]

The ground explosion?

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[royal vortex]

the cat has been rehabilitated from prior drug use

[copper hawk]

I did NOTZ call u pookie .

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/crackbert3.gif

[royal vortex]

i hate you

[spare talon]

good

[vague depot]

Can I dm you when I get more questions or do I just ping you in zealot chat for psyker questions

[placid fiber]

You hate everyone

[royal vortex]

i am neutral on most

[copper hawk]

Ground based neutral game Josho is known for

[royal vortex]

i recognize these words in a vacuum but not together and i think i am thankful for it

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-potemkin-potemkin-buster-ground-based-footsies-gif-24060743

[placid fiber]

but u at least hate me, right? :3

[spare talon]

Either one but I've still not played nearly as much psyker as zealot in general so don't take my word as gospel lmao

[vague depot]

That’s fine

[polar nexus]

You just have to sacrifice 30ish greens to get full mastery

[steep flame]

is that how that works

[polar nexus]

It's not worse. It's boring.

Deterministic suffering if you want

[steep flame]

i thought you just had to play with the shit weapon

[polar nexus]

Nope

[steep flame]

to make it better

[polar nexus]

That's the other way

Just buy 30 grey of the weapon you want to master. Green them. Sacrifice them. You're done

[steep flame]

just had a grenadier throw a fire grenade on me as i was being rescued

who wrote this

kojima?

[neat crane]

okay so i just have to post this because it bewilders me

level 30 havoc, im running my speedzealot, and we're running a carnival, and final objective, my entire fucking team stands under a gate where the enemies are pouring down, all of them down except me because i'm running a boltpistol, and i shit you not, they get mad when i down trying to save one of their dumbasses, NONE OF THEM WERE RUNNING VOC OR CHORUS.

[red swift]

Not enough context unlucky

[twin wagon]

Not enough context
I also despite speed zealot with passion over superior dps

Sad it happened Sah

[lone matrix]

i hope we get someday a 2h axe

[neat crane]

it was one of the spawning gates that the enemies drip over, they had no buffs, pisspoor survivability as it was me, another zealot, and a vet that WASN'T running voc

[neat crane]

step 1: install weapon customization

step 2: profit

[twin wagon]

Chaxe exists Fenrir

You could join chaxe gang

[lone matrix]

listen to ggxx soundtrack

[lone matrix]

steals and costumizes one of the maulers chain axes

[neat crane]

chainaxes are only ran by madmen and sigma males, you can't change my mind as a fellow chainaxe lover

[lone matrix]

i like 2h weapons th rgs evicerator

[twin wagon]

I fail to see the issue outside of skill difference on them

VoC is not necessary neither is mit in general, just need people to not get chipped by trash

Diagnosis, carried by speed zealot

[lone matrix]

runs stealth rgs

[twin wagon]

I aprove of stealth in pubs

[lone matrix]

good for ressing and objectives

[twin wagon]

Gives pubs several chances to prove themselves, or go horizontal again

dps loss ain't bad either

[lone matrix]

i used to play shade in vt2 so i should know how to use it

[plucky gate]

stealth has some good utility

[lone matrix]

sadly we don't have dual weapons

combat axe with devil claw would be cool

[plucky gate]

I don't have an issue with stealth users as long as they're actually good at using it.
Lots of people just blindly hate

[vague depot]

I’m fine as long as you don’t dump a mauler horde on me

[plucky gate]

but that's the fun part!

[lone matrix]

backstabs the maulers

i rather let poxwalker hordes at you while eliminating priority targets

[twin wagon]

We should hate agro dumpers and knife rushers.

[vague depot]

Ok that’s cool but if you just dump the maulers on me I’m gonna start taking note of barrels and poxbursters

[twin wagon]

[plucky gate]

generally i'll keep my stealths as brief as possible unless i'm doing something important that needs it, like an objective or getting an angle on a tox bomber

I try not to just leave all the aggro on the team for extended periods of time

usually it's like a split second for damage

[neat crane]

so, i was the one who wasn't rarted, because i focus my stealth on getting out of shitty situations to reload or heal some toughness, objectives and res, they legit got fucking FURIOUS when i downed; like it was my fault or sumn

[lone matrix]

longer stealth use for rushing down gunners

[twin wagon]

Classic pubers

"We lost so it must be the fault of x for not carrying better"

"He's alive because he didn't contribute!"

And then people wonder why the REDDITOR mod exists

[plucky gate]

yeah if you have some important thing to kill, go for it

although a lot of the time i'll rush them without stealthing

[neat crane]

and the worst part is the dude who i ran the 30 hav left immediately after, so i can't even get a 30th, and im on 28

[plucky gate]

knife zealot can handle it well regardless of stealth

[neat crane]

i mean sure knife zealot has got it but i mean i literally ran the perfect build, immolate nades, bpistol, knife, meta stats, and i know how to round my dodges and slides to just go in and fuck the specials up n get out

[remote lark]

out of curiousity

can you post what your perfect build is

:)

[remote lark]

i'll be nice...

this time

[remote lark]

hi cole

that cat looks malformed

wtf

[placid fiber]

So, how bad does this look on my Vet? lol

[plucky gate]

wtf those pants

[placid fiber]

idk, iirc they are the ones that came with that jacket

[plucky gate]

looks good from the waist up

[placid fiber]

The only other commodore vesture's pants I have are the ones for the camo outfit and the one for the uh... this one

[shy hull]

The relic sword is go fun, but why on earth its blessing have to be this BAD man

[frosty herald]

Its a crusher situation

Its an already good weapon

Putting power blessings on it would be goofy

[umbral kindle]

And power blessings are BORING

[spare talon]

It's more other weapons are spoiled with stupidly strong blessings

And it's because they have access to them that they can't be made great baseline because they'd be too powerful with those blessings

Like slaughterer and headtaker are stupidly strong, stupidly easy to use, and stupidly boring

[umbral kindle]

"oh your weapon has some neat blessings that are kind of niche and would be interesting to play around? Fuck you here's two MUST have power blessings" - game design expert

[spare talon]

Basically

[frosty herald]

Ive heard enough

Nerf devil jin

[spare talon]

Based on the last few weapon, excluding pickaxes

[frosty herald]

The most sensible aproach for balance

[twin wagon]

This will not cause issues to misinformed players at all.

[spare talon]

I'd expect future weapons to follow the same trend of not having any real "must have or youre stupid" blessings

[spare talon]

Just another casualty of having blessings that strong in the game

[shy hull]

I wished weapons had more blessings like Showstopper that give you new ways to do shit with it rather than +X OP stat in Y situation

Honestly my ideal design would be : Weapons can have 2 blessings, 1 that does situational stat empowerment and 1 that add a unique mechanic to it

[shy hull]

I would love to play with the more interesting blessings on some weapons, but for the relic blade the effects are just so low, hard to pull off and very unreliable... Compared to "+250% cleave pretty much constantly" there's no competition

[placid fiber]

I just saw 2 trappers who should have targeted me(since I was the closest target) go past me and OVER to my teammates, run behind them, then trap them

lol

[shy hull]

Like the heat managment blessings got me super excited at first, but then... -10% heat over 3 sec is already bad enough to not take it, and if you realize it's only 2.5% when the weapon is active... 💀

[shy hull]

They do that sometimes lmao

[placid fiber]

I haven't seen them ignore the closest person like that before the other night(that I can remember) x.x

[umbral kindle]

It's annoying when it's a burster

[placid fiber]

And then also path behind the person before trapping them

[umbral kindle]

You push it but it wasn't even aggro on you

[placid fiber]

instead of attempting to trap them when they were in range

[frosty herald]

Manstopper on bolter

[placid fiber]

manstopper on the autopistol

That... might actually make the autopistol less trash tier... but you'd probably have to use cavalcade with it

[twin wagon]

Autopistol solution would be to give it some funny non-meta blessings

like explosive rounds

or infernus

[umbral kindle]

Give it more ammo and make it shoot faster

[placid fiber]

Infernus might actually make it at least mediocre lol

[umbral kindle]

Or add a second autopistol

[placid fiber]

Or, an even worse idea: Give the oggy dual autopistols

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/artem-killer788-gif-24954009

zealot with dual autopistols

[twin wagon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/455?tab=posts

Let the gatekeeping commence

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/254

Combined with our old gatekeeping tools to make sure they didn't switch

NO LONGER will I suffer PURPLE WEAPONS+Memes in my matches

[atomic fjord]

I’ve been playing support zealot

Flamer + relic spam

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[sturdy cypress]

whats the blessing combo to go for on a double barrel?

[grizzled aspen]

Liar, you are incapable of being nice.

All you know is argue with idiots online, use femboy vocab, and lay on people in vrchat.

[native sail]

is heatsink actually good

ive just been using rampage so the unpowered doesnt feel like trash but if heatsink lets you just sit in empowered 24/7 id use it

[stone fern]

be nice to your spouse end the cycle of abuse now

[native sail]

hello shark man!!

[stone fern]

hi

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[native sail]

i remember you giving me very helpful psyker advice at some point in time

[grizzled aspen]

Cranial is just better.

[stone fern]

is heat sink the blow up on max heat one?

or the weakspot one

[grizzled aspen]

And realistically you only need 1 heat management blessing.

[native sail]

cranial is permanently stapled on

[grizzled aspen]

Begone, noob.

Back to soyker chat with ye.

[native sail]

yea im just wondering if sink+cranial is better than rampage+cranial

because rampage seems like turbo overkill while powered

[grizzled aspen]

For board missions I would say rampage cranial is better.

[native sail]

but makes unpowered not garbage trashcan

[stone fern]

rampage is nice but i find the clear is already good

[grizzled aspen]

For havocs I would say cranial wrath is best.

[native sail]

wow does it actually run out of cleave while powered in havoc?

thats crazy

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[native sail]

i have not touched havoc yet

good to know

[grizzled aspen]

The base cleave on it is actually quite low for what you'd expect, surprisingly.

[native sail]

was very helpful to learn that dodge slides give you the joust stab

[grizzled aspen]

You can cleave like 5 heads before you run out of cleave.

[stone fern]

still better than evi15 🚬

[grizzled aspen]

So I run wrath and just sweep 12 enemies in one swing.

[native sail]

am i crazy for feeling like the relic blade is just a better evis

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[stone fern]

nope not wrong

[grizzled aspen]

It's a direct upgrade in literally every way.

[native sail]

which like im ok with because its way cooler but

[grizzled aspen]

On demand crusher 1taps? Check. Mixed horde clear like a mf? Check. Boss damage? Check.

[native sail]

direct powercreep but the new shiny is cooler (good)

vs

direct powercreep but the new shiny is BORING and I HATE IT (bad)

[stone fern]

tbh its not that bad

[native sail]

yeah its insane how much damage a powered fotf joust does to bosses

[stone fern]

OP melee isnt as bad as OP blitz, ranged, ult

[grizzled aspen]

Me when I dodge slide, proc duellist, and headshot the plogryn to drop half its hp in one button:

[native sail]

side note can you double fotf boosted hit like you can with shroudfield?

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[native sail]

where you hit right as you activate

[stone fern]

nope

[native sail]

unfort

would be funny

[stone fern]

actually

[grizzled aspen]

This is absolutely assbackwards logic.

OP melee is way worse than the rest.

[stone fern]

wait you kinda can

[native sail]

i will check in psykhanium RIGHT NOW

[stone fern]

if you revv up a chain weapon and then ult when it makes contact you can

but it only works with revved chain weapons

[grizzled aspen]

So, with chain weapons, if you chastise after your rev hit lands, you will preserve your fotf until your next hit.

While still getting the buffs for your sawing.

[stone fern]

thats what i said