zealot-class

[hushed knoll]

Hello Redverseywersey owo

[sullen forge]

its lines for when the Players are seeking cover or being suppressed, actively calling you a coward for trying to protect yourself lmao

[frozen glen]

hello stanthony

[grizzled aspen]

I'm calling him that from now on.

[hushed knoll]

Who

[grizzled aspen]

Stanthony. 🫵

[hushed knoll]

I hate the pointing emoji

[grizzled aspen]

Cope. 🫵

[hushed knoll]

I hate it when people point at me

[dark spire]

👉 👈

[grizzled aspen]

It is unironically my most used emote now.

[hushed knoll]

No

[misty nova]

[opal star]

average modded darktide ui

[sullen forge]

You know they'll scream "KILL THEM!" when a player reaches critical HP treshold

[opal star]

oh so it's okay when they do it when they outnumber us 5924030913103:1

[sullen forge]

yes

[grizzled aspen]

"KILL THEM," said the scab shooter.
"lol, lmao," said the martyrdom zealout with UD off cooldown.

[sullen forge]

They also have Low Ammo call outs

[opal star]

strongest crusher overhead vs weakest until death enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-gif-25280817

[sullen forge]

"They're out! Charge them!"

[opal star]

psyker:

[grizzled aspen]

We need dreg shooters with bayonets.

(clueless)

[opal star]

that's just dreg gunner

[grizzled aspen]

Genuinely, why do the 6th not shit themselves when they realize they're fighting a psyker?

[opal star]

tbf the 6th kinda have abominations of nurgle
+daemonhosts

[grizzled aspen]

I think I'd be terrified of fighting somebody that can pop my head like a grape by thinking at me.

[sullen forge]

Tbf 1 psyker vs like

[grizzled aspen]

Ok but I'm still just a dude.

[sullen forge]

250+ Highly trained Traitor Guardsmen

yeah I like those odds

[opal star]

also what gale said

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, but I, the psyker, have successfully killed 249 of them without a scratch.

[frosty herald]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDhWfJxRldW/?igsh=a3Iydjg3enJqaDhu @lean lark

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[opal star]

you may be just a dude but there's also a gorillion of dudes backing you up so you'd probably think "nah I'd win"

[grizzled aspen]

Do you still like your odds?

[opal star]

and then

well

[sullen forge]

And that 1 could still dome you in the head

thats what you have to realize

[grizzled aspen]

Nah, I'm Her. (my psyker is female)

[sullen forge]

Thats literally IG tactics

using wave tactics for openings

[opal star]

at that point your options are kinda just

• die, likely in an agonizing way as you are tortured to death because you disrespected your god by being a coward
• die in an instant because the psyker farted in your direction

[sullen forge]

1K Die

we have like

1K more we can just use till we get an opening

[grizzled aspen]

Alternatively, your third hidden option is to repent.

[opal star]

lol
lmao

that's just the third die option

[grizzled aspen]

There is a story of a plague marine that broke the nurgle brainwashing and repented in death.

I dont remember the details too clearly but he basically said, "loyalist, give me the virus bomb."

And then blew himself up with it.

[opal star]

so basically the third hidden option is also dying

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[slim fjord]

Can u do any penance in private match?

[opal star]

yes

[grizzled aspen]

But a death done in repentance is better than one done in service to the ruinous powers.

[opal star]

as there are penances that specifically require private matches

or at least premades

wait that's just private matches again

[slim fjord]

K, thx

[misty nova]

Yeah I know about the low HP and ammo ones

This one went
"Oi, they're out of ammo"

[grizzled aspen]

Do they have any lines specifically aimed at psykers when they're quelling?

[misty nova]

Then got hit by a rock

[grizzled aspen]

I dont play psyker enough to know that.

[sullen forge]

Not really no

Its only Supressing, Low Ammo, Critical HP, Taking Cover, Or Moving to Cover

[twin smelt]

Anyone know what the best blessings are for the new power sword?

[sullen forge]

Anyways I got the actual Full Loyalist 6th Uniform looks really fucking nice

[misty nova]

Cranial Rampage

[twin smelt]

Ok that’s what I was looking at, thanks

[undone pewter]

It looks so good

I love the blue

[desert spear]

god I want it

I wish progressing wasn’t so slow

[grizzled aspen]

Like what Higui said, cranial rampage, but if you play havocs, you may opt to swap rampage to wrath for the cleave.

[grizzled aspen]

It's not! Just lock in for your penances.

[desert spear]

it’s still plenty slow lol

[grizzled aspen]

(you can effectively buy a good chunk of penance score with mastery)

[desert spear]

I’ve been completing like around 3 penances per mission typically

[grizzled aspen]

You have all your class penances done?

[undone pewter]

Get your martyr skulls

Every mission auric damnation

ASS
Atoma elite guard

Huge moneys huge points

[grizzled aspen]

Atoma's elite guard is unironically easier than ASS.

[violet hornet]

Atoma's elite ass

[zealous mesa]

On infected 31st soldiers I think I will put unarmored on my sword

Those guys are stopping my sword from slicing

[sullen forge]

Flak is their armor type

[burnt folio]

I'm starting to believe 60 mobility double barrel isn't real

[sullen forge]

Aim headlevel if its like

oh idk

HS9/7/6

[grizzled aspen]

Your damage isn't going to affect how many targets you cleave.

[sullen forge]

They just have increased hitmass

[grizzled aspen]

Unless you're using hs with deathblow.

[zealous mesa]

Their heads are unarmored

[sullen forge]

DB HS is the hardest fucking counter to them I wont lie lmao

[zealous mesa]

Will unarmored not work if I aim for the head

[grizzled aspen]

Unarmored will work, but again, damage won't affect cleave unless you're using something like hs with deathblow.

[zealous mesa]

Doesn't matter

[sullen forge]

It'll kill the first guy and immediately fall off on second and third target unless

You're using DB or BM

[grizzled aspen]

Yes it does???

[zealous mesa]

I already have a cleave blessing

[grizzled aspen]

Ok?

My point still stands.

[proper gyro]

Would my HSword build work for DC

[grizzled aspen]

Damage perks will not affect cleave except in the case of blessings that ignore hitmass.

[fleet zealot]

You need wrath for late pox/21st missions unless you have a reliable premae purge staff user

[zealous mesa]

If I kill one it makes more room for another guy to get hit in the next swing

[sullen forge]

You know I totally forgot HD2 was a game

[grizzled aspen]

That's not how cleave works!

[sullen forge]

till I saw the update pop into my Steam Library

[grizzled aspen]

Goofy!

[fleet zealot]

All melee horde and bruisers in havoc scale up over 3x hitmass

[grizzled aspen]

Let's say you have four targets, ok?

[fleet zealot]

You need the raw 250% cleave from wrath

[grizzled aspen]

You cleave 3 and don't touch the 4th guy.

[sullen forge]

Cleave is more so how many enemies can your weapon slice through before it stops on them

[zealous mesa]

if I am fighting 5 guys and I cleave through 3 and I kill one on the first swing, now I can hit the fourth guy

[sullen forge]

not about killing but more so hitting multiple enemies

[zealous mesa]

my mental gymnastics isn't cope

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah no that isn't how cleave works.

You still only cleave 3.

[fleet zealot]

Relic blade has high minimum damage

[zealous mesa]

I know it's just actual logic

[fleet zealot]

So it actually scales with the hyper dense hyper spawns

[grizzled aspen]

I understand where you're coming from, because that would make sense to me, too, but that unfortunately isn't how cleave works.

[zealous mesa]

Wait typo

[fleet zealot]

Lol you’ll just get stopped by 3

[grizzled aspen]

Once the hitmass exceeds your cleave value, your sword stops, no matter what.

[zealous mesa]

I am aware of this

[fleet zealot]

Gas and 21st mods on top of trash having over 3x more hitmass sucks

[fleet zealot]

Or you can do large amounts of minimum damage to much more targets cause havoc is never 5 things

[zealous mesa]

would double cleave blessings stack

[fleet zealot]

Bruiser packs are in the dozens

[zealous mesa]

Or does it cap at 200%

[fleet zealot]

There is no double cleave blessing and there is no cap

You can run strength and cleave

[zealous mesa]

Savage sweep and wrath?

[hushed knoll]

Wasn’t this the “yaaas kween slayyy” of the 1960s

[grizzled aspen]

One could run both ss and wrath, but why would you?

[fleet zealot]

Rampage+wrath

[zealous mesa]

Because I was asking

[fleet zealot]

Sweep isn’t on relic blade

[desert spear]

I was screaming when I saw the update in the game awards

I was literally standing up and screaming like a schizo

THEYRE REAL

I YOU THEY WERE REAL

[zealous mesa]

I am not thinking about the relic blade at the moment

[twin wagon]

HAHAHAHAHA

[desert spear]

THE SQUIDS

THEYRE REAL!!!

[twin wagon]

I CAN'T BE STOPPED

MY TERRIBLE COOKING SPREE EXTENDS TO WEAPONS TOO

[zealous mesa]

I played 3 rounds last night they're so tough

[clever swan]

darktide mogs helldivers 2

[fleet zealot]

And from what people who’ve actually been doing high havocs, you only need wrath + 1 for late havocs on specific mods (gas and/or 21st)

[proper gyro]

So would the meta blessings for HSword on high level havoc be Wrath and Brutal Momentum?

[fleet zealot]

Otherwise i’ve been going leakage + rampage

Double strength

Rampage is strength the tooltip is lies

[fleet zealot]

Honestly i’m not sure about BM

[grizzled aspen]

Leakage is a trap blessing.

[violet hornet]

Why would you want wrath for a pox gas mission?

[fleet zealot]

You eventually lose your bruiser hit point

[lean lark]

If you can't fight nameless king copy in the network test it's dogshit 😴

[fleet zealot]

Gas does another density multiplier to enemies that touch it

[violet hornet]

Aaah okay thank you

[proper gyro]

Really?

It ignores hitmass

What would you take over that

[fleet zealot]

Only if you weakspot kill

And if you aren’t weakspot killing every 4 enemies every swing then the value for it goes down dramatically

I need someone to go test but the last high havoc hsword user said the only breakpoints for deathblow they hit were for trash horde

Couldn’t even oneshot bruisers

[fleet zealot]

Headtaker

[grizzled aspen]

The only melee weapon I've seen be useful for zealout is mk13 chord for a support setup or a ds4 for dps setup.

For havocs, at least.

Relic blade can be useful but it's a lot harder to pull off in havocs than the other 2.

And its because of shit like hsword bruiser 1tap bps being obliterated.

[fleet zealot]

Ds4 falls off a cliff unless you have trusted teammates to cover your massive weaknesses now

Havoc will eat a dueling sword alive

[fleet zealot]

It’s not

[grizzled aspen]

It is.

[fleet zealot]

It is the set up hrup told me

[grizzled aspen]

That 20% is only when your heat is over 90%.

Well hrup is crazy lmao.

It has very little impact on your overall gameplay and it forces you to run high heat.

[fleet zealot]

And it work good even if i keep it around 50-90 edging

[grizzled aspen]

W/e, I can lead a horse to water...

[fleet zealot]

Idk i’ve been using it

And honestly i like more strength

Over cranial

[proper gyro]

Damn

[fleet zealot]

Anyways headtaker is 40% strength on heavy sword and damage cleave stagger is just a nice stat combination

You could go pstrike

With stalwart piety

Actually…

Fuckin fatshark making the worst blessing meta with one simple trick

[lean lark]

That seems very wrong

[fleet zealot]

Perfect strike actually ignores hitmass on crits

[fleet zealot]

In high havoc? I don’t doubt it

[lean lark]

Hsword strikedowns deal like 1.4k flak and 1.8k unarmored dmg

on mk6 for example

[fleet zealot]

Hmm

He was using mk9

[lean lark]

was he a dmg build or just support

if he was spamming the vanguard heavies then yeah it makes sense that it couldn't oneshot bruisers

[fleet zealot]

Hmm i never asked but prob supportish

Well dont you need your swing to also

Cleave motion

To get use of BM

[lean lark]

I'll do a hav40 on mk6 hsword with a dmg build

I mean even if deathblow doesn't work doesn't it have rampage

[fleet zealot]

But yea mk6 mk7 def could work better

[fleet zealot]

Headtaker is >>> rampage

By 4%

[lean lark]

I'm saying

head taker rampage if deathblow doesn't do much

[fleet zealot]

and easier to stack up if you are in a sticky spot

[fleet zealot]

Yes i see now

[lean lark]

hsword strikedowns have 100% cleave dmg on first two targets also

[mighty root]

It has headtaker which gives it cleave

[fleet zealot]

You might still need/want wrath

For certain modifier/modifier combination

Not for havoc in general

Tho it has weaker wrath compared to relic blade ( 405 vs 505)

[lean lark]

I doubt you'll need wrath on hsword

if deathblow works

[grave cypress]

does zealot have a secret uptick in crit chance they get? Realizing how much of zealots build is based around them getting crits and crit damage but how few nodes actually yield higher crit chances apart from blazing piety

[mighty root]

I still take deathblow and headtaker

[fleet zealot]

If only fatshark let us test havoc 40 21st gassed up

[fleet zealot]

Fotf is a guaranteed crit, scourge exists but tbh we only need to crit every 4 seconds

[proper gyro]

Aight

[lean lark]

you don't need wrath on relic blade as long as you have leakage rampage cleave, surely defeault hsword with head taker cleave and deathblow(if it works)/rampage will be fine

[fleet zealot]

Im sorry but no im taking it for 21st over leakage

[lean lark]

okay you do you

[fleet zealot]

I feel it get stuck once and im swapping

[lean lark]

hitting the party finder lottery for a moebian 21st hav40

[grizzled aspen]

You could also just not run leakage at all and have great cleave forever.

It's awful for various reasons.

Heat should not be treated the same way as peril edging.

[zealous mesa]

You could but I haven't tried the relic sword enough to see

You still have to rely on the sword being useful outside of activation

Something the one handed power sword is not

[nocturne harness]

wrath makes the relic blade more than viable when unpowered

[zealous mesa]

looking at the relic blade makes me feel sad for the munitorum power sword

[lean lark]

I'll take my 56% extra dmg cleave stagger

[zealous mesa]

it should be useful outside of power

[lean lark]

fatsharks pov: oh man powersword is really bad when unpowered, let's buff powercycler

if you're running slaughterer powercycler it's fine while unpowered

imo

[zealous mesa]

It just sucks that it needs power cycler

I really want to use sunder

slaughterer helps a bit

but also it's such a slow weapon

With not much stamina

[lean lark]

I use chainsword on vet more than psword

[zealous mesa]

I build very left tree on vet so I usually bring a devils claw

takes no points to use

[lean lark]

it offers very good horde clear and specialist/disabler oneshots and is instant

which is all I care about on my vets melee

[zealous mesa]

I've been testing the chainsword

I find myself getting hit more often and it has less stamina than my devils claw

I think it's because I forgot I can't parry

[modern lintel]

right

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle https://youtube.com/shorts/ZqmygwXT4c4?si=aomcqXjIX8CHirJv

Bro what

Ok that's so dumb

[vernal quartz]

power sword has such ass movement

[lunar fable]

[sturdy cypress]

He... he just like me frfr

[buoyant pewter]

Boooooo only one handed

One handed melee 🤢

[lean lark]

@frosty herald btw in the trailer I noticed one of the characters respawning during a fight

(elden ring nightreign)

instant 2/10

[zealous mesa]

surprise

You don't play a coop game expecting to sit there because you died early and watch everyone play for 10 minutes

[lean lark]

honestly as long as it isn't a like full restock on everything and on a short cool down it's fine

but I still do not like it because it fully defeats the purpose of souls games. "Oh no I died, I just have to wait a bit and we can beat this boss easy"

[zealous mesa]

Maybe it's a team revive mechanic

You saw the trailer right

[north sedge]

or a boon or whatever they're calling the powerups

[zealous mesa]

This is easily the most anime looking game of all dark souls

You run super fast and wallclimb

But I don't mind because I like co-op games

I don't want to be a ghost in someone's game

[lean lark]

Yes

[lean lark]

"relics"

The more the revive occupies in forms of resources and possibilities to take something else instead the more balanced it will be

[copper hawk]

Pawesome..

I love kabru..

[zealous mesa]

oh no

[potent gate]

Honestly in Havoc, you're almost never swinging while it's unpowered anyway if you're managing well

[zealous mesa]

My official opinion is that if you're going to make someone half animal it's better to go full anthropomorphic animal

[misty ravine]

Gotta be hitting that Chorus after all, your sword can cool down then

[zealous mesa]

I don't like thinking about how many ears a human girl with cat ears has

[copper hawk]

Two pair

Many such ears

[zealous mesa]

good gravy

No thanks

[zealous mesa]

There is sunlight on my phone I cannot tell what that is

[fleet fractal]

a dog

[zealous mesa]

Pregnant Man reacting... This server is going to the dogs

[plush estuary]

to the cats

[zealous mesa]

I'm more of a dog guy

I know dogs would appreciate it

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brain-cat-brain-ice-cream-gif-25160275

[zealous mesa]

cats think they own everything

[desert spear]

cats think they’re real

they actually aren’t

[zealous mesa]

here's my sister's cat

[copper hawk]

U dont haz preg man react privilegez ainz

We're not on squeakin termz

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

[spare dome]

heres my idiot economizing bed space and not ever letting me make it

[plush estuary]

I'm imaging this

[zealous mesa]

He's fat

[copper hawk]

Pathetic, ,,

[plush estuary]

Thought those were platforms

[spare dome]

she is

[zealous mesa]

She

[spare dome]

very floof tho

[copper hawk]

Misgendered the car

[zealous mesa]

Here is the cat eating asbestos and dying

[copper hawk]

Execution scheduled

For tomorrow at 1455 MST

[zealous mesa]

One time I talked in a server for a bit and nobody would talk to me directly

[zealous mesa]

one day I accidentally said he instead of she and for the first time 4 different people talked to me to tell me I was wrong

I have no charisma

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

That's awful

Pawful even

[zealous mesa]

I deserved it for trying to interact with a group that was chiefly furries

[lunar fable]

the creature

[copper hawk]

Troo

[copper hawk]

Kbitty frozen in time

[zealous mesa]

I miss my dog

I moved away

[desert spear]

here’s my cat

[zealous mesa]

The void

you can't take pictures of her

[desert spear]

void dog

[stone fern]

high quality cat

u can tell from the eyes

[lament blaze]

toughness vs health curios? 🤔

[open falcon]

I need a faster way to get these stupid throwing knife kills on elites/specialists because they don’t 1 hit half the time

[stone fern]

toughness easily regenerates health doesnt

but its not exactly that simple toughness blocks more when its at 100% so it would be easier to regenerate less toughness

[lament blaze]

ye but if you get hit twice in a row, you will take less health damage if you have toughness curios because your %toughness will be higher

[stone fern]

yeah but if you take higher damage attacks once youll block more of that

lower toughness more hp is better if you struggle more with chip damage

[lament blaze]

I think my chip damage is at an okay level. It's usually "ah crap" moments where I randomly lose 60% of my HP then I go another 5 minutes without losing much if anything

[obtuse tangle]

whats the opinion on cavalcade vs shattering impact on bolter

[stone fern]

but like having 40% of 200 toughness still blocks more than 40% of 100 toughness

[lament blaze]

It does? How does the formula work?

I thought it was directly tied to %toughness you had

[stone fern]

🚬 i have no idea

it does relate to the percentage

[lament blaze]

😭

[stone fern]

but having 50% of 200 toughness will still block roe than 50% of 100 toughness

shits complicated

[lament blaze]

well. that makes the case for toughness better than if that wasnt the case

i think

[stone fern]

there is a video that goes over it somewhere on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjTWUrJdr_U

yeah this is a great guide

[obtuse tangle]

anyone know if i should go cavalcade or shattering impact on bolter to go with pinning fire

[stone fern]

wait shit that was the wrong video of telos he has another guide

[hushed knoll]

BUCONG BABONG BABONG

[stone fern]

people kinda go shattering puncture now

[hushed knoll]

What does the raisin reaction mean

Hello clad

How is your day going

[stone fern]

hi its ok

i am going to consume coffee rn

[hushed knoll]

Yaaaaas slay

I love coffee

[visual stream]

Hi Stan

[hushed knoll]

@nimble fiber please tell me

[hushed knoll]

[gray ice]

toughness works on percentage. If you have 100% toughness, melee will not bleed through to hp. If you have 90% toughness you'll soak 90% of the hit and take 10% hp dmg. It blocks ranged dmg completely

[hushed knoll]

@nimble fiber don’t make me use this

[lament blaze]

i mean im halfway through and this isnt a guide

hes complaining about the current system, not explaining it

[radiant raptor]

what're the important stats fo the relic blades

[gray ice]

mobility dump

rest 80

mobility being the non-important stat because it doesn't affect dmg or heat windows

[mighty root]

I’m so freaky

[radiant raptor]

sick

[mighty root]

Hope we get a power saber

[radiant raptor]

cant wait for power shovel for ogryn

and then power rock

[mighty root]

Orgyn would benefit form power weapons

But they gave us power maul

[misty ravine]

Watch them add a power saber that is somehow inferior to the nonpower saber (dueling sword)

[mighty root]

[misty ravine]

Happened with Paul after all

[mighty root]

Or power dagger

[lament blaze]

oh sorry @stone fern i didnt see your second message

[misty nova]

Funny 1 2 shot pool noodle

[misty ravine]

"We purposely tuned it wrong. As a joke!"

[mighty root]

Even with the new blessings it got it’s still mid

The double shockwave doesn’t even reach

[true kindle]

What's up kids

[modern lintel]

happened to grenade gauntlet aswell for like a week it was able to 2 or 3 tap maulers then they were oh whoops wasn't supposed to be good

[misty ravine]

You WILL run Kickback and you WILL be happy

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[misty nova]

You read my mind

[misty nova]

💀

[true kindle]

No no. You are the children. I am the adult, and I'm not pretending otherwise

[stone fern]

ye i messed up he has another video thats actually guide somewhere

[mighty root]

Cleaver, shield, and pickax are the only weapons I can use on orgyn

[misty nova]

Hey Hank
Thoughts on Last Guard at high havoc

[stone fern]

ye i meant with melee

[true kindle]

I have none, haven't played high havoc

[misty nova]

Is that so

So

[gray ice]

I probably have the better set of knees (barely) so this is fine

[modern lintel]

any reason why

[misty nova]

Just general thoughts about Last Guard

[true kindle]

Busy during playtesting for it and now PoE2 happened

[modern lintel]

understandable

[gray ice]

works as described for melee

[mighty root]

Flamer should have a heat gen instead of ammo

[true kindle]

I have forgotten what Last Guard does to make room for PoE2 keywords

[misty nova]

Wish Cleavers were good (only plays mk6 cleaver)

[zealous mesa]

Thankfully they buffed the power maul some

[misty nova]

[zealous mesa]

I've always been a power maul believer

[true kindle]

Oh yeah I was involved with this

[opal star]

uh

[true kindle]

The problem with Paul is that it has bromentum and two sweeping heavies.

[opal star]

Fuel

[modern lintel]

so does the playtesting only work in waves ie like a couple months before updates or are they constantly throwing ideas at yall @true kindle

[misty nova]

Just AoE push when guard breaks +30% block efficiency

[spare dome]

somehow my oven shorted itself out

or somehow we fucked it up

i really dunno whats up rn lmao

[true kindle]

Making it really good at regular weapon stuff while it can also sweep through hordes like crazy was considered undesirable

[misty nova]

Skullcrusher + Opportunist gaming 🗣️

[spare dome]

well this is very unfortunate

[modern lintel]

give paul and crusher power cycler now

[opal star]

Be fr fatshark’s gonna make the AoE so fucking tiny it might as well not push at all

[zealous mesa]

if you go in a game do you happen to notice that it you do a powered light and immediately follow up with a chained light it appears not to register

[true kindle]

It happens in ||haha gotcha bitch I signed an NDA||

[spare dome]

he signed an NDA!! write that down!!

i cant believe he'd give that information away for free

[radiant raptor]

nah they won't see

[misty nova]

Eh
Not picking it for the AoE 💀

[radiant raptor]

just whisper it

[modern lintel]

mailing pipebombs rn

[spare dome]

do you even know the address

[opal star]

you don’t need to

just send pipebombs to every address

[zealous mesa]

thankfully I don't have to turn it on every single time now

I still activate like every other swing but now I will follow up a power sweep with a regular one for skullcrusher

[true kindle]

I had 40k views on my hstubber breakdown video so just write down "Hank from YouTube" and they'll find me. I'm kind of a big deal

[misty nova]

The pipe bomber of '24 incident

[hushed knoll]

Hello Hank

[zealous mesa]

Holy fudge
Like Warhammer 40k

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-surprised-shocked-horror-gif-10137395

[mighty root]

Bend over

[cold mauve]

For the best boss killing weapon, is it the thunder maul with chastise the wicked? Or is there any other alternative?

[true kindle]

That's right

[modern lintel]

dont worry ill tell them telo leaked it

wait

[true kindle]

[opal star]

thunder hammer, dueling sword

[misty nova]

Perfectionist Thunderhammer

[spare dome]

the Hank from YouTube?

[true kindle]

Yes.

[cold mauve]

Gotcha, thank you

[zealous mesa]

well you could try a chainaxe

[true kindle]

I'm Hank Green.

[cold mauve]

It's just not really good at crown control

[spare dome]

i wrote "The Hank from YouTube the one with the 40,000 views on a video about the heavy stubber, a weapon from the game Warhammer 40K: DarkTide"

[misty nova]

Just remember to backstab

[spare dome]

sadly it has made this pipebomb package very cumbersome to accomodate the long title

[modern lintel]

you appear to be yellow is this some sick joke

[cold mauve]

I have been enjoying the relic sword but it is just for crowd clearing it feels

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-dog-im-fr-an-eater-qazira-dog-tongue-freaky-dog-tongue-gif-14576727459878736156

[opal star]

yellow is just weird green

[zealous mesa]

Not at all

[misty nova]

It has single target combos

Sort of jack of all trades

[opal star]

his tongue does NOT need to be doing allat 😭

[cold mauve]

I see

[true kindle]

They made us all piss coloured as a joke, yes

[gray ice]

Relic sword is the best generalist weapon zealot has now

[opal star]

relic blade empowered hit sound make my brain go bweeewm

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749799445478244393/1265479387571159182/crackbert.gif

[frozen glen]

im givin that to the

the uhhhhh

[cold mauve]

boneless pizza

[misty ravine]

You don't know if he's going to do the one explosion or the other one upon death

[misty ravine]

Rashad?

[zealous mesa]

oh my god

it's Friday

I actually had no idea

I have a half day at school

Day saved

not high school, training for something

[median steeple]

friday the 13th in december

[ivory marlin]

Scary

Me rn

[cold mauve]

That explains why my wife has been kinda scary today

XD

[gray ice]

take your time

[misty nova]

Friday 13 huh

I might join havocs for the sole purpose of backstabbing bosses

Boo

👻

[ivory marlin]

Hi vin

[gray ice]

ello gale

[hushed knoll]

Hello Jale

Hello von

VIN

[ivory marlin]

Hi stan

https://tenor.com/view/wave-seal-shy-cute-hello-gif-17557219007211587331

[hushed knoll]

Seal of approval

[gray ice]

hello stan

[ivory marlin]

King vin

[hushed knoll]

Is he a king?

[ivory marlin]

No cuz like king von

But vin

Cuz your typo

[hushed knoll]

Who is king von

[ivory marlin]

A guy

[hushed knoll]

My German autocorrect kicked in

Von means from

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok

[hushed knoll]

There now you speak German

I charge $30 per minute

So your bill is $30

I take cash if you please

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-rivals-bitting-curb-hulk-gif-505496136354999280

[ivory marlin]

Im actually poor rn

[frozen glen]

stop buying mtg cards

[ivory marlin]

I need to save up and move out

[ivory marlin]

Actually havent in a bit

[frozen glen]

sell em

[ivory marlin]

Nah

Every card i own thats expensive

I play

[ivory marlin]

So true

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-major-general-ffxiv-gif-2225911870593737747

[ivory marlin]

I love jeff

I honestly don’t understand the jeff hate

[copper hawk]

Hate jeff

So much

[hushed knoll]

Omg you play mtg? Me too

[hushed knoll]

[ivory marlin]

I love mtg

[hushed knoll]

OMG SAME

[ivory marlin]

Hyped for aetherdrift

[visual stream]

His ult is easy to counter unless you let him sneak up on you

Shrimply stay away from your teammates

[hushed knoll]

I’m not hyped for the changes coming with the universes beyond

[ivory marlin]

Fair

[visual stream]

I think that's the majority of the hate but I love the ledge suicide bombs

[hushed knoll]

I don’t wanna play with fucking spider man

Like that’s really turning me off tbh

[visual stream]

Jeff tuah, shark on that thang

[lament blaze]

I saw someone with a character skin that was black with gold highlights At first I thought it was the deluxe edition skins but that's not quite right

Anybody know the skin im talking about?

I believe they were a vet but I could be mistaken

[ivory marlin]

What about sponge bob

[ivory marlin]

Sponge bob mtg is real

2025

[visual stream]

Strange on that thang

[ivory marlin]

Ignore how awful my aim is

[plucky sparrow]

What class was it for?

[frozen trench]

Bro the quiet scream is peak

Love me the quiet scream

[lament blaze]

I think vet but im not quite sure

[violet hornet]

I had heard from a few mtg vets that they're losing interest in the game because of wotc abandoning their own lore for UB slop

[visual stream]

I have to be mindful of my neighbors :d

Like a good tenant wagie

[frozen trench]

I just do it because my mic will peak

[hushed knoll]

Yup this is me

[frozen trench]

If I really do the funni scream

[hushed knoll]

NO PLEASE GOD

[plucky sparrow]

Could possibly have been a penance reward around 4000 ?

[ivory marlin]

I cast jellyfish king winning me the game

[visual stream]

What happens when I try to do that

[violet hornet]

Glunching outta control

[lament blaze]

I personally just got tired of the power and complexity creep.

That, and woke up to the garbage business practices

[ivory marlin]

The cheese stands alone needs a reprint in my humble opinion

[frozen trench]

Me when someone tells me their build optimization

[toxic dock]

is there a good recon las?

or do they all brr the same?

[frozen trench]

Fast fire rate one solid

[toxic dock]

ok which mk is that?

[spare dome]

still a consumer

[misty nova]

XIV

[toxic dock]

ty ty

[spare dome]

capitalism cant imagine a world without itself in it

[misty nova]

3 cleave
Hard hits

[frozen trench]

If we weren’t in Hell we wouldn’t need entertainment to alleviate the dullness of the rat race

[misty nova]

Unfortunately recons are pretty eh on Zealot
Don't let that ruin your fun though

[toxic dock]

what do you want on a recon las for blessing and stats?

[twin wagon]

Wait, there's 2 shock mauls?

WOT

[toxic dock]

yeah im mostly just getting the mastery on zealot so i can have fun on vet

[misty nova]

Dumdum Deathspitter for funny damage

[spare dome]

i run the VIc for Zealot, Dumdum + Deathspitter/Infernus, latter if on Havoc

[delicate shadow]

no you MUST metaslave

[spare dome]

its faster and snappier to draw/sprint around with than the XII, and if you are running FOFTH and/or IJ then you will have some measure of extra ranged attack speed anyway

it gets pretty meaty

[twin wagon]

I'm gonna run the shock maul

AND NO ONE can stop me

[toxic dock]

im almost done with dueling sword and i cannot wait to put this thing down i feel my iq slowly draining out of my brain every mission

[misty nova]

Oh go ahead and learn reload cancel as well

[toxic dock]

its too easy

[spare dome]

i really do love the XII but it is just fucking impossible to manage your ammo and bursts lmao

[tepid sorrel]

im jester squeble

[lean lark]

kicked for running 1 extra toughness node instead of 5% toughness dr. you're literally handicapping yourself and i dont want that in my game.

[toxic dock]

dude can literally smell your stat nodes

[lament blaze]

do people actually do that'

[delicate shadow]

there's a lot of silly things people do

[copper hawk]

The grubs appear..

[delicate shadow]

ok so is this grub stuff like some weird fetish thing or what?

[gray ice]

it's gotta be

[spare dome]

ive learned that ignorance is bliss

[delicate shadow]

is this what getting old feels like, I can't keep up with the youngin's any more?

[lean lark]

nobody says that

other than a select group of people

[gray ice]

this is not a young people thing

[lean lark]

you're not getting old

[copper hawk]

Grubs

[spare dome]

he's 57

[gray ice]

this is a "hm group of people"

[copper hawk]

Grubs cannot imagine a hive without themselves

[delicate shadow]

I'm 28, practically decaying and decomposing rn

[spare dome]

im 34, which means ive been dead for four years

let me tell ya, its rough

[royal vortex]

it is the word "orbiter" but made weirder

[delicate shadow]

my condolences

[delicate shadow]

oh...

[spare dome]

goddamn it

this really has me laughing

[visual stream]

my honest to god reaction

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[gray ice]

it all makes sense now

[delicate shadow]

this is so much funnier than it has any right to be

[copper hawk]

Noooh ur spoiling it

[royal vortex]

ominous cutoff point

[spare dome]

hey whats that below the bottom

[copper hawk]

Now they know i mean a spacecraft that circles elliptically around a celestial body !!

[visual stream]

What if we're all just little guys in UFOs piloting these bodies and Big Science is lying to us

[spare dome]

weird, it just stops right there

[tepid sorrel]

well according to bark and meow it's a slur they invented

lol

[misty nova]

[tepid sorrel]

just made it up on the spot

[copper hawk]

A slur lmfao

[spare dome]

i think it says "a substitute word for french generality"

but i guess we cant ever be sure

[copper hawk]

What a grand and intoxicating delusion,,

[tepid sorrel]

a special word referring to people u dont like in a derogatory way

[delicate shadow]

1 is literally the only use case in Australia, the rest are obscure and made up

[copper hawk]

Typical grub behavior ,,

Door campin u rn,,

[misty ravine]

Door stuck

[visual stream]

Average AI moment

[tepid sorrel]

#zealot-class message
message link to the convo in question btw

[visual stream]

Tells you something matter-of-factly in a nerd emoji way but is completely wrong

[tepid sorrel]

idk how else to refer to a word invented for the purpose of being derogatory towards people you don't like

[visual stream]

If I wanted bold misinformation I would go to Darktide Reddit

[tepid sorrel]

as anything other than "a slur" lol

[delicate shadow]

AI will melt down when it finally realises glue is not a pasta sauce ingredient

[tepid sorrel]

and u cant say "its not derogatory" when u have like 3 of ur friends saying it is

[lean lark]

who gives a fuck what words mean people cant read here anyways

[plucky sparrow]

Glue is a pasta ingredient I regularly eat it everyday

[lean lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908

[tepid sorrel]

factual statement

[lean lark]

speaking of pasta

i made carbonara tonight and decided to add carolina reaper sauce to it

[gray ice]

Yes but then you think about who's using it and you realize that maybe it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things

[tepid sorrel]

i had some cacio e pepe

[lean lark]

it was a good decision

[tepid sorrel]

Real, honestly.

[visual stream]

@hard nexus Grubmaster is this true

[gray ice]

grubmaster

aquino please

[delicate shadow]

I ended up caving and getting gulab jamun yesterday

[tepid sorrel]

didn't i just send a message link

where bark said it's an insult/derogatory statement

[visual stream]

I can't read

[tepid sorrel]

thats right!

we can't rtead

[visual stream]

I thought we went over this

[blissful frigate]

list me the many health benefits of consuming glue

[tepid sorrel]

can we go under it?

[delicate shadow]

idk we'd have to read up on it

[gray ice]

perhaps we should walk beside it

[tepid sorrel]

maybe go around it

[plucky sparrow]

Well it’s glue, every conceivable health benefit you can think of it has

It also helps my brain remain smooth

[blissful frigate]

increases structural integrity

[hard nexus]

slur??

lmfao

it’s not derogatory

[violet hornet]

Seeing the table take 5 minutes reading an essay worth of text on a card before being able to continue is bonkers

[visual stream]

[hard nexus]

it’s just an observation of people

calling it a slur is

pathetic

tbh

[tepid sorrel]

so none of you are on the same page

got it

[royal vortex]

the zealot chat fighting escalates

[hard nexus]

it’s an insult but not a slur

stupid is not a slur

dumb is not a slur

[tepid sorrel]

a word we invent to describe people we don't like, explicitly for the purpose of insulting them

that's awful close to the written definition of slur

🤔

[visual stream]

Thank you grubmaster for your boundless wisdom and clarity

[cold mauve]

posibly a hot take

but the 3 shot burst fire autogun is bad

[visual stream]

Only cold takes in this chat sorry

[tepid sorrel]

extremely cold take

frozen, even

[visual stream]

True too

Maybe not bad but mid

[cold mauve]

The two shot is fine

the three is just baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

[lean lark]

3 shot burst autogun is good if you can aim weakspots 99% of the time

which isnt asking for much in a horde game

[misty nova]

Eh
Vigilants are eh on Zealot

[delicate shadow]

it used to be insanely good but now it's just gud

[misty nova]

Love my semi auto vigilant though

[lean lark]

id rather run a lasgun/laspistol though

[misty nova]

[delicate shadow]

I think I'd rather a laspistol over any of the lasrifles atm

[misty ravine]

I feel like for it to be a slur it needs to refer to some characteristic other than "just don't like em"

[long oasis]

if they made the inf lasguns stop consuming 3 per shot I bet theyd feel ok

[lean lark]

yeah but you suck, bad player, worst player ive ever seen, horrible. Truly horrible.

[delicate shadow]

I'm just pretty sure laspistols are straight up better lol

[misty ravine]

Like "manlet" could be a slur but "fuckface" isn't

[lean lark]

yes

on zealot, yes

[delicate shadow]

yea zel specifically

[tepid sorrel]

slurs are applied to groups of people or in some dictionaries considered as just another word for a disparaging insult

[gray ice]

laspistol is fantastic rn

[tepid sorrel]

in this case the "group of people" is a perceived group of "followers", "meatriders", etc

[gray ice]

been using that and recon las a lot with relic sword

[delicate shadow]

ur fantastic rn

[tepid sorrel]

also known as "a group of people we don't like and associate with eachother"

[lean lark]

they havent fixed something about the mk10 laspistol

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-bashful-flirt-smile-smirk-gif-3664319396239749866

[lean lark]

which makes it even better

[toxic dock]

i just wish i didn't need a mod to make the las pistol full auto

why do you need to click every shot

[vague depot]

Is vigilant the burst/semi auto one

[misty ravine]

The Autogun Formerly Known As Headhunter

[vague depot]

Ah

[tepid sorrel]

we don't deserve a world with accessibility options apparently

[lean lark]

yeah

you specifically

dogshit playtester

[tepid sorrel]

fuck YOUR hands in particular

[lean lark]

🖕

[spare dome]

grow stronger hands idiot

[lean lark]

just be genetically superior

[tepid sorrel]

im gonna compress your median nerves

[spare dome]

simply stimulate the lizard part of your brain

[modern lintel]

is karker a slur a chat

[spare dome]

and itll happen

[cold mauve]

what are the good blessings for it?

[tepid sorrel]

no babe

[gray ice]

infernus/dumdum been carryin me

[misty ravine]

No, it doesn't refer to a protected group

[delicate shadow]

400 hours of spamming the tec-9 in CS:GO has prepared me for this

[misty ravine]

Or any group besides "I don't like em" for that matter

[median steeple]

every word is a slur now so watch it water boy

[lean lark]

they know me for my deagle onetaps.

[delicate shadow]

the juan deag

[misty ravine]

Even terrorist groups cannot defy the ATF smh tbh

[modern lintel]

im calling the slur police on you smh

[lean lark]

ferrari peek onetap in eco round vs awp at mirage

[delicate shadow]

we need a havoc modifier called "flusha" where shooters can start hitting you through vet smoke

[lean lark]

yup

[toxic dock]

isn't that just something they do anyway

[lean lark]

make the snipers be able to instantly fire without any ramp up, but in a 90° cone

[delicate shadow]

lmao

[tepid sorrel]

i want the 360 noscope sniper modifier

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-pdr-gif-21471890

[lean lark]

mann

remembering nade lineups

too bad cs2 is dogshit

[misty nova]

Alright
Getting my vet smoke spots practice later

[vague depot]

Best I could do was valorant slow orb lineups

They didn’t do shit btw they literally only existed to steal your attention for a fraction of a second so I could rush you

[delicate shadow]

I remember our one guy that was supposed to know the nade throws would fuck them up like half the time and we'd end up rolling out onto the site and get absolutely demolished

good times ngl

[lean lark]

my group used to do like nade studying

[vague depot]

Study session at 2 pm

[delicate shadow]

then you'd have the inevitable p250 rush

[lean lark]

either friday or saturday we'd get in a vc and spend a couple hours just practicing nade lineups

[vague depot]

Proper B site smokes

[delicate shadow]

actually there was one guy we'd play with who was super into optimal strats and stuff and the moment anyone on the other side did something sub-optimal he'd get caught off guard and die

and he'd freak the fuck out

[lean lark]

relatable

[tepid sorrel]

that's literally soviet training doctrine

[lean lark]

i was stuck in silver hell for a while

and got killed in the most stupid ways imagineable because i wasnt expecting it

i was defusing on A in overpass and a r8 revolver enemy terrorist sneaked past 3 of my teammates and managed to kill me

and since nobody else had a defuse kit in my team we lost

[modern lintel]

i remember when i was still heavy into dayZ in like a 15 man group i would always the builder and id tell our irish overnight members not to touch shit or if they did id have building kits set up in the placed theyd need to be and every time with out fail id get on to them building some abomination

[delicate shadow]

"WHY WOULD HE DO THAT???"

"we're in DMG"

[lean lark]

i wont forget the day i got an ace with an eco round nova, no head armor

i peaked that day

[potent gate]

I require a female opinion

(For a gift)

(Not to the emperor but it's also not heretical)

[gray ice]

@sterile stone we need a woman's opinion you around

[delicate shadow]

Argus out here catching strays

[fleet zealot]

ice cold

just cause it's not a vraks iag doesn't make it bad, mk3 is very serviceable

[gray ice]

only on fridays

[fleet zealot]

had that with a friend who literally got so mad at me for pointing it out he banned me from his stream and didn't talk to me for 3 months

apex legends "OMG It's so bullshit why are they playing like noobs, that's totally the wrong play and we die to it"

"Well, is it really the wrong play if they wiped your squad and got out of the zone in time anyways"

[gray ice]

the classic he killed me therefore he's bad but if I kill him he's also bad

[potent gate]

The funny thing about stuff like that, is those people tend to be sort of dog shit.

Predict the unpredictable - the game isn't static.

And if you're always playing optimally, you're playing predictably most of the time when it comes to CS

[fleet zealot]

also depends on how fluid the game is

and what it allows for

[delicate shadow]

lmao, yea in our case it was like, this dude was LEM and thought he was hot shit but our group was low rank af

and he was surprised low rank dudes don't do pro™️ shit

like yea no shit the guy fresh out of nova is gonna rush you in a 1v1

[gray ice]

When the loser of the friend group reaches gold nova elite and starts talking like he's not one of you

[delicate shadow]

FR

[fleet zealot]

“The world’s best swordsman doesn’t fear the second best; he fears the worst swordsman, because he can’t predict what the idiot will do.”

[delicate shadow]

our other friend on the team utterly HATES fps games and he'd just run around with a mag-7 and clap a surprising amount of people

only played because we'd make him

[delicate shadow]

if no one else takes you up on this I can ask my partner lmao

[fleet zealot]

i don't like fps games but when I was at a gaming cafe in middleschool, i would be a filler for various tournaments

[gray ice]

my relationship with Overwatch 2 currently

i mostly hate this damn game but all my friends play it

[fleet zealot]

For CoD I just get the biggest LMG, slap FMJ, extended mag, etc

and just make a super beef gun

[potent gate]

That would be nice lmao, thanks. Lemme grab the links

[gray ice]

and then I get potg every other game and carry

[delicate shadow]

ok why the hell are y'all still playing that when marvel rivals exists

[fleet zealot]

the owner was chill sad the last time i saw him he was doordashing

cause he had to close the business

[gray ice]

I REFUSE to move to overwatch 2.5. REFUSEEEEE.

I WILL NOT BE SHACKLED AGAIN

[delicate shadow]

my heart goes out to doordashers, utter hell job

especially in the city

[fleet zealot]

but yea, he'd A) not charge my hours if i was being tournament filler B) free snacks, drinks and hours

[gray ice]

NO ONE CAN MAKE ME

[fleet zealot]

you mean OW2 but good

[gray ice]

Yea sure everyone's saying that now because it's new and been out for 2 weeks

I'm skeptic till we hit at least the 6 month mark

[potent gate]

@delicate shadow Basically trying to pick out a bracelet - I've narrowed it down to two and it's between:

1. https://www.amazon.com/NATALIA-DRAKE-Diamond-Bracelet-Sterling/dp/B0D5P664WQ/ref=sr_1_34?

or 2)https://www.amazon.com/Moissanite-Bracelet-Sterling-Bracelets-Swallowtail/dp/B0CYZTKM5Q/ref=sr_1_37?

OH YIKES

I DIDN'T REALISE IT WOULD BE THAT LONG

[gray ice]

my brother in link

[median steeple]

Cut it down to the ?

[plucky sparrow]

Wall text moment

[gray ice]

sweet christmas

[plucky sparrow]

Can’t you do the uh (text)[link] thing discord has

[delicate shadow]

lmao link moment

[plucky sparrow]

So it shortens the link

[median steeple]

No just edit the message and delete up to the ?

[fleet zealot]

i actually did really well in a MKX tourney

[median steeple]

^

[delicate shadow]

aight I'll get the missus' professional opinion

[fleet zealot]

playing ferra tor and jason

i only got filtered eventually by an actually good ermac main

[median steeple]

ermac my goat

[potent gate]

I did it

[fleet zealot]

mid tier players getting wrecked by a newbie ferra tor player

[potent gate]

I need to look into that

[fleet zealot]

once i learned the basic combos it was fun

[keen heron]

is it just me is emperors bullet kinda bad

[plucky sparrow]

I might have swapped the brackets and parentheses

[fleet zealot]

not just you

it is just bad

[plucky sparrow]

But discord has that for link shortening

[fleet zealot]

most of our ranged talents besides dance of death and anoint in blood are utter garbage

[keen heron]

why does everything in the middle tree range from just ass to mid at best i feel like im being railroaded way too much into going right path

[lean lark]

do deadlock instead

dont you want to box people to death

[gray ice]

LawBreakers players rise up

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-welcome-to-lash-city-valve-lash-gif-10522548350812131673

[lean lark]

just punch them in the face

[plucky sparrow]

We can’t we’re waiting to parry an attack to make a single move

[fleet zealot]

because the meta is just throwing knives->benediction->fotf->keystone

[keen heron]

man

[sturdy cypress]

Rivals is fine. I agree with the sentiment that its not as good as overwatch was, but its much better than how overwatch is

[keen heron]

i just wanna be supportman

[fleet zealot]

knives for immo nades in havoc

[potent gate]

I'll test it out with a shorter link later just in case I nuke chat again lmao

[fleet zealot]

you support by killing shit

more dead things = less things dealing damage

[lean lark]

you're not forced into any build

[plucky sparrow]

Can’t hurt your teammates if they’re all dead

[lean lark]

the talent tree doesnt force you to do anything you dont decide

[keen heron]

im not but there is way too much clutter on the tree

[median steeple]

use flame nades fr

[keen heron]

choice doesnt excuse bad balance

[fleet zealot]

like for havoc you are kinda supportish

[median steeple]

death to throwing knives

[fleet zealot]

going chorus+beacon

[lean lark]

find ways to work around it until it gets de-cluttered

[fleet zealot]

but that's basically it

[fleet zealot]

it's not so much bad balance as is lack of identity

all the other classes are built in mind for a new player to go straight down one branch and have a functional normal damn build

zealot tree makes no sense

most of the ranged talents are mid, but martyrdom doesn't buff range

[keen heron]

its even worse when i find out the stuff i do think is decent is actually bad because of some baffling choice that makes it not work half the time or work way less

[fleet zealot]

crit talents are top right and bottom left

[fleet zealot]

i don't think that is the case for anything currently

chorus is in middle branch, but middle tree has no viable cdr option so you'd have to wait the entire 60 second cooldown

you could solve 80% of the issues by just moving shit around

[delicate shadow]

paraphrasing:

ok the XO one makes a lot of sense if she's into more flashy and more obviously romantic/lovey dovey gifts

the KSTYLE one makes more sense if she's into stuff that's more minimalist and kinda versatile

thing is jewellery is a very personal style thing and it's going to vary from person to person, like I personally wouldn't go for either of those but I know people who are very into one or the other

[keen heron]

maybe i can make up for the lack of toughness passives by spamming book

[fleet zealot]

ew

[lean lark]

yes

[fleet zealot]

just kill things, and wdym lack of toughness

[keen heron]

duality of zealot

toughness passives on middle tree

[lean lark]

there are things that make others not necessary

[plucky sparrow]

Flat gold toughness is goated in havoc

[fleet zealot]

oh yea, just got fotf lol

[lean lark]

if you're chorus you dont need any toughness gen, just focus on ability cdr and maintaining chorus buffs up

[keen heron]

whats fotf if you dont mind?

[fleet zealot]

half the cooldown, more multi uses, dps

[lean lark]

fury of the faithful

[fleet zealot]

fury of the faithful

chorus is good for havoc

but outside of that it's meh

[potent gate]

I appreciate the paraphrase XD.

Based on that, sounds like the KSTYLE one is the winner since she doesn't typically like flashy stuff.

Last time I got her a necklace, she doesn't wear it too often because it doesn't go with her outfits so trying to find something a bit more neutral but also shiny

[fleet zealot]

chorus kills your personal dps and can be interrupted by silly things, as well as having a mandatory taxe

[potent gate]

Maybe I'm the problem for liking shiny things. I'm like a fucking crow

[fleet zealot]

i really don't like either of the buffs, besides maybe tdr for high havoc

[lean lark]

both buffs are good if you can afford the tax

[fleet zealot]

you are already taking a tax for chorus

[potent gate]

I genuinely have some mental diseases when it comes to colours.

I'd rather use a weapon of a higher rarity even if it wasn't optimal because the colour suggests its better

[lean lark]

20% extra dmg helps your burst dmg kill bosses even faster

[keen heron]

would it be worth to go for pious cutthroat for even more bookspam or too many points?

[lean lark]

30% tdr makes your team tankier if they're out of cover

[lean lark]

pious cutthroat is the best ability cdr

so yes its worth it

[fleet zealot]

yea i basically can't, immo nades->beacon->chorus-> stalwart piety plus grabbing the actually good nodes i'm missing

[fleet zealot]

double cdr no

[delicate shadow]

then yea kstyle is your best bet of the two

[lean lark]

you only need pious cutthroat for chorus

[fleet zealot]

what's book cdr with invocation? 20 seconds?

[long oasis]

what armor do cult captains have?