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delicate shadow
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yeah but I can't speak to who or how

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polar nexus
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Interestingly Telo is not a playtester anymore, but probably for other reasons

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polar nexus
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he was just banned from the twitch stream

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iirc

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ah

misty nova
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Tell your tits to stop staring at my eyes šŸ—£ļø

drowsy steppe
toxic dock
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man they were not lying this dueling sword shit is busted

visual stream
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Truly a dev moment

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What if we put the melee weapon that performs well on a non-melee class on a melee class

lunar fable
stone fern
visual stream
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Duel tuah! Thrust on that thang

lunar fable
visual stream
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I was thinking the other day because I had to update my phone

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What if Neuralink incorporates planned obsolescence

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Fries your brain over time

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New implant to renew the frying progress

misty nova
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Would not be surprised

visual stream
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Me neither

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Neuralink 11S Pro: Now with less hallucinations

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I wonder how those monkeys are doing

frosty herald
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Frosty mod manager might genuinely be THE worst mod manager ive ever used in my life

twin wagon
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Vortex

frosty herald
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This is worse

twin wagon
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elaborate

stone fern
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vortex fucking sucks

neon field
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which mod manager do you use then numbers man

light badge
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Just farted, AMA

stone fern
neon field
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fair enough

stone fern
neon field
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is it hard to do it that or is it just putting files into the mod part

plucky sparrow
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I donā€™t get why youā€™d use a mod manager in the first place itā€™s like drag and drop 3 times to get the mods working šŸ˜“

south folio
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latter, so pretty straightforward

plucky gate
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it's nice for updating a bunch of mods

south folio
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drop it into mods, type the name of the folder into the txt folder, and it'll work

neon field
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will my mods be effected if i get rid of vortex?

stone fern
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wake me up when the mod manager 2 makes one for darktide šŸš¬

misty ravine
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"This is my mod manager."

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frosty herald
twin wagon
twin wagon
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So you may need to reinstall some of them manually

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And yes

south folio
plucky sparrow
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Also how tf did it auto correct to your

median steeple
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Wait what

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You can put explosives on those things?

nimble fiber
fleet zealot
arctic saffron
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apparently you can kill stuff with doors thinkPeepo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xymol64-lkY

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fleet zealot
modern lintel
copper hawk
fleet zealot
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There was also a chaos spawn insta kill where if you ccā€™d it mid leap it would die

copper hawk
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Been a bug since closed beta

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Works best on cspawns ive noticed

misty nova
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Doors end up killing more enemies than they should

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Once saw eight crushers spawn on those double doors just for 5 to get killed when it closed

sterile stone
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As a secondary

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I saw a guy shoot someone camping in a room

polar nexus
sterile stone
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He swapped from regular saw blades to explosive ones

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And just spam fired them into the room and killed the dude

grizzled aspen
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I've only done it once in a private match to see if it worked because I was fucked either way, and I can confirm it works, but do it at the risk of getting reported and banned.

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Because it's an exploit, and all that.

median steeple
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Funniest thing to do really

median steeple
red swift
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I doubt it's bannable, that'd be pretty unreasonable imo. If they don't want people doing it they just gotta fix it.

hallow summit
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most bugs/exploits wont really get u banned cause its not your fault they were left in the game

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its not like your actually hacking or anything

fleet zealot
jade juniper
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need a zealotnomicon

hallow summit
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da goop go off? she gleep on my gnorp till the gloop go off

median steeple
copper hawk
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Gnarpy..

jade juniper
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its that time again i need combat axe details

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i must have total weapon mastery

twilit otter
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for zealots that use throwing knives, do you use G or rebind it to something else?

plucky sparrow
hard nexus
twilit otter
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i am thinking auto hotkey to bind mouse wheelforward

sterile stone
opaque island
sterile stone
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They go away after the event ends.

opaque island
polar nexus
plucky sparrow
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Q is my special attack key lmao

median steeple
twilit otter
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what does a beacon of purity+chorus build look like for high level havocs?

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doesnt seem to be any on gameslatern

spare dome
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right side, shift to center, shift left

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sprinkle yourself some other choice nodes along the way

twilit otter
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yea i get that

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but you cant get all the toys you gotta give some nodes up

spare dome
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yep

plucky sparrow
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Thatā€™s how all builds are

twilit otter
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good balance, duelist, holy revent, all the way down blaing piety, 10% attack speed, purge the unclean, etc

polar nexus
twilit otter
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cant afford it all

lean lark
plucky sparrow
sullen forge
median steeple
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me asf

polar nexus
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but dodge on mouse is an old habit from vt1

plucky sparrow
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I see

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My dodge is still space lmao

twilit otter
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Left alt

polar nexus
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reload is click on the wheel, because venting on r is a fucking pain when i play psyker

north sedge
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scroll lock is dodge for me

spare dome
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i did this for my last 38, but i was also testing shit

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either way, not too dissimilar to what dawn showed. you gotta make some choices

polar nexus
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the infinite scrolling button on some mouses?

spare dome
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it's that button you accidentally press once every five years and then rediscover when you cant figure out why the fuck you cant scroll up and down on reddit

north sedge
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the key between prt screen and pausebreak

plucky gate
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i don't even think my keyboard has a scroll lock button

placid fiber
twilit otter
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what about weapons? Dueling sword and bolter or flamer?

spare dome
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i used relic mkii and a iiib infantry las

twilit otter
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also what are you guys using for curios for havoc, I have toughness with toughness/ability regen/gunner resist

placid fiber
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but I also notice when cap lock, num lock, or scroll lock is on cause a light is on my keyboard and normally I have no lights on

spare dome
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full hp for me

visual stream
spare dome
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cdr/sprint/block

lean lark
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3 17% tough, 3 5% maxhp and toughness, 2 gunner res 1 corruption res

twilit otter
placid fiber
# twilit otter why not?

cdr from your talent tree makes it much less effective overall and it takes the spot of something better

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visual stream
# twilit otter why not?

It saves only two seconds I believe, which is much less than one single proc of either backstab or crit CDR node will give you

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Which, they can proc multiple times before the next time you get your ability so it is very outclassed

spare dome
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on book it's saving you 7.2 seconds

lean lark
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its additive so its 7.2s

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on chorus

placid fiber
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on chastise and shroud(base cd on shroud)

spare dome
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add in psyker 10%

visual stream
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Oh yeah I was thinking Chastise

twilit otter
spare dome
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and with perfect (ie. lucky) crit uptime on IoD you now have 100% uptime for the gold toughness

lean lark
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ability cdr on chorus is okay

visual stream
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On book it's more viable but if you have crit CDR, you're still gonna be getting it kookie fast

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But understandable pick

placid fiber
# twilit otter chorus

+200% ability rate on crit for 4s and 20% cdr on backstab kill do not take up the spot of a curio perk and are on the path to the keystones on the left and right

twilit otter
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i was running chastise build on 30 and we got wrecked by corruption in 5 minutes, the team asked me to do beacon/chorus and we breezed through it

placid fiber
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In what, havoc?

lean lark
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yeah thats just simply the blight spreads being an annoying ass modifier

placid fiber
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Cause from what I've heard you want chorus for havoc

twilit otter
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havoc 30

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i had to make up a beacon/chorus build on the spot

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now im trying to refine it

placid fiber
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Havoc just doesn't interest me... if I wanted to play a mmorpg I'd go play WoW or something :/

twilit otter
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i need to get true survivor title

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when I have auric storm survivor and someone has true survivor I feel personally attacked

placid fiber
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meanwhile idc what title you have, I care how you do instead lol

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I've seen so many randos make trash look useable and good that it's not even funny...

lean lark
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if you want true survivor the easiest method is getting a premade and doing havoc36

twilit otter
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yea i want to get there

twin wagon
twilit otter
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havent done much havoc yet

placid fiber
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I haven't done any havoc yet lol

misty nova
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Which Cousin Okri is the zealot channel dweller?

placid fiber
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I used malice and heresy randos for my game completions with sub 30 players instead of havoc

twilit otter
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starting at havoc 1 is painful

placid fiber
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I then proceeded to use almost all of the 150k dockets reward to get my 4th zealot a 500 rated autopistol...

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he was only level 15 at the time... he's now level 20 iirc

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ended up having to try hard carrying a hi shock heresy run with him...

misty nova
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Yo @zinc talon
An Ogryn Last Guard build
Should I pair with Opportunist for the 40 rending bleed build or Skullcrusher?

placid fiber
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ended up doing a solo clutch successfully before the game omega lagged and I got trapped while that happened

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the next run I saw an infiltrate vet omega solo clutch the normal shock heresy after I did a solo clutch towards the start of it x.x

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We won that run, but, that vet was only like level 18 or something lol

fleet zealot
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idk why kendrick would be blocked tho

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placid fiber
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That was the 1st time I've seen a legitimate gamer moment from a rando in months lol

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having a 500 rated thammer on a leveling character feels great

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not having the 10% attack speed talent, tho, with it... does not x.x

fleet zealot
placid fiber
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like 153 toughness in a shock gauntlet on heresy is rough <.<

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lol I made a full on magic build in rogue legacy 2 cause I found a character with crippling intellect

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fleet zealot
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this is me

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if you even care

frozen trench
lean lark
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fuck do i care lol sure ill post it here

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one sec

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which of the two? chorus or chastise

frozen trench
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Damn what a chad

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Both

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I like trying different angles to expand my usage of the relic blade in differing circumstances

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Iā€™d like to imagine Iā€™m training different areas of skill expression and game mechanics by not confining it within the same ā€œoptimizedā€ build

lean lark
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these are the weapons and curios for both

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frozen trench
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I find with builds that are strongly optimized or that it plays itself you learn bad habits because it saves you from mistakes

lean lark
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optimization only goes so far, player skill is the most important thing

frozen trench
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Or it doesnā€™t push you into the ground enough for you to get that adaptation going

plucky gate
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be like me and spin a wheel for choosing your build when you get bored

frozen trench
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Need a random loadout function

final mural
lean lark
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ive only needed 1 corruption res

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since im running beacon in blight

final mural
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I keep meaning to throw it on and then i forget every time lmao

lean lark
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2 works fine too

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but 1 is harmless because you always have a free perk due to multiplicative gunner res

final mural
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Yeaah I always have beacon on for havocs, its nice

lean lark
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before havoc i just ran revive ally

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instead of corruption res

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but fuck blight spreads

final mural
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I'm actually not sure how that gunner res thing works, does three just become not worth it?

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yeaah true blight spreads is aids

frozen trench
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The math multiplies them together

lean lark
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since from 41% or whatever to 46% is a notable ehp difference

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its also not necessary

final mural
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fair fair

lean lark
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2 versions ofmy dmg build

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@frozen trench

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duellist desperation is the more high dmg spec'd while other is slightly more "frontline"

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tankier

frozen trench
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Neat Iā€™ll demo the first

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I got something similar going

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I find empty stamina giving 20% melee damage something I should use more as I tend to push attack and sprint a lot

lean lark
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this is the chorus

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frozen trench
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Oyes thanks

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How does IJ feel without the dodge giving 3 momentum?

lean lark
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literally no difference

frozen trench
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Does that make much of a difference in your eyes?

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Ya

lean lark
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ive ran inebriates-less since talent tree addition

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i tried like a dozen games with it

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no changes

frozen trench
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I see

lean lark
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because i could've had an actual meaningful dmg/survivability buff instead with that node

frozen trench
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I find I run into that talent point tax from that keystone node

lean lark
# lean lark this is the chorus

also you can 100% swap good balance here for disdain/desperate since you're chorus and dont need to care about dr or toughness generation

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more dmg good

frozen trench
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True

lean lark
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despartion better for on-demand burst vs bosses while disdain just helps in hordes and picking off elites inside them

frozen trench
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Rampage and energy leakage is my fav blessing ratio

jade juniper
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combat axe perks/bless, mark?

frozen trench
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Cranial and Heatsink feel like a blessing tax, but losing empowered uptime from it do feel bad, but I find I only empower for elites

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I got two relic swords, one mobility dump that is for empowered, one heat management dump that is just for movement shooter combat flow

lean lark
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have fun carpal tunneling to victory

lean lark
jade juniper
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do i spam heavy or spam light attacks?

lean lark
long oasis
frozen trench
north sedge
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Run inebriates if you're doing ij, don't listen to dawn

jade juniper
lean lark
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cranial offers you at most maybe a couple extra swings and some scraps for dmg compared to leakage, which is a permanent 10% power(if you're good at maintaining heat at like 20%) up to 20% for burst dmg vs bosses

frozen trench
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I asked him for his opinion

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How about you donā€™t listen to me

lean lark
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you're free to use whatever you want at the end of the day, it's your game and you paid for it

north sedge
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no, you're the only one that debates this

frozen trench
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Mfs should redirect themselves to abortion issues if they want to debate on another persons right

north sedge
lean lark
frozen trench
lean lark
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If inebriates was as mandatory as you make it sound it'd have been built in by now

frozen trench
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Bro had that on the folder draw ready

jade juniper
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whats the dump for the full sized boltgun?

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is it mobility or collat?

lean lark
jade juniper
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ok

frozen trench
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Probably be good for opening bulwarks but try your hardest to avoid wasting ammo for them

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Collateral that is

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Also jostling elites do be kinda fun

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lean lark
vague depot
blissful frigate
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zealot tree "rebalance" (they will make loner required before thy wrath be swift)

spare dome
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i just want the section above the auras redone and not much else tbh

gray ice
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I have secret zealot tree insider information

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Piety is swapping places with tknives

delicate shadow
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gonna nerf stun nades

lean lark
royal vortex
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it would be based

gray ice
delicate shadow
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based on what?

royal vortex
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based on my dreams

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where it was revealed to me

spare dome
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i'd rather see them delete the 25% suppression node above punishment first lmao

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most useless fucken travel node

blissful frigate
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all toughness regen talents will be replaced with coherency toughness regen

lean lark
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loner should've been a keystone rather than an aura

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and have unique effects for being in less coherency

spare dome
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loner shouldve been an aura instead of not an aura

delicate shadow
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loner buffed by 3%

gray ice
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Loner should have been removed stickman_hmm

median steeple
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true

lean lark
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if they made it give you extra buffs the lower your coherency is then it'd be cool

blissful frigate
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if it gave teammates a buff while you were outside of coherency

delicate shadow
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I doubt people would like having a talent that encourages zealots to run off even more often

gray ice
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Yes but still antithetical to the team game

lean lark
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fuck the team

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I'm running into the demonhost

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there's not really much to be done with loner other than changing it entirely into a different thing

gray ice
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That is precisely what they should do

blissful frigate
gray ice
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Loner felt like a we can't think of a good 3rd one aura

lean lark
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just make it be an attack speed aura

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save the hassle

spare dome
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thats not gonna happen lmao

plucky gate
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if they wanna keep the same vibe but make it more team oriented, how about an aura that doubles all coherency ranges?

delicate shadow
lean lark
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it's the only stat no other aura buffs and it'd fit for zealot

gray ice
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It plays into stealth but that's a faulty starting line cuz stealth really don't belong here either

delicate shadow
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and loner isn't even very good for doing so anyway

lean lark
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making it instead be a like 5% attack speed aura buff would be ok

marble maple
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dump mobility or colleteral

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gray ice
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Mobi

lean lark
spare dome
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at best we'll get like a 25% backstab damage aura

fleet zealot
delicate shadow
spare dome
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and it'll still be better

marble maple
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gotcha

lean lark
spare dome
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not for the team

frozen glen
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90% sprint speed aura

spare dome
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id actually fucking kill for a sprint efficiency aura

quasi marsh
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Loner could work if it works even in a team but increases when alone

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While maintaining the same idea

gray ice
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We don't have any really cool auras just yet

plucky gate
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i'm surprised we don't have sprint speed aura

lean lark
delicate shadow
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I think the problem is the idea sucks

marble maple
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how good is thunder hammer with fury

mighty mesa
quasi marsh
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5% aspd to team and 10% when alone

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Or something like that

delicate shadow
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especially given coherency regen turns off in melee anyway

lean lark
spare dome
placid fiber
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Man... this is the 1st magic build, in rogue legacy 2, that I've had that actually did legitimately amazing damage with just the beam spell... it's doing what my weapon would normally be doing lol

delicate shadow
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like second wind achieves what loner supposedly achieves but way more effectively

frozen glen
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man too many anime pfps in chat im outta here

spare dome
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fatshark is more concerned about quadrupling an effect

lean lark
gray ice
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3rd aura could be something like Holy Retribution and give 10% atk speed for 5s to anyone who uses their ability in coherency

lean lark
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and 5% attack speed is neither busted or useless

placid fiber
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Lady Julia the 4th... of course it's Lady Julia... she's the one who I beat ng+3 on iirc

lean lark
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since attack speed buffs ranged firerate too it'd also be completely unique

spare dome
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5% active on four players is almost an auto-pick, the only reason we'd consider it balanced is because havoc now makes a strong cause for BoP and Zealot tree is still completely fucked in the ass

gray ice
frozen glen
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i know my people

spare dome
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either way fatshark is terrified of attack speed and for good reason

frozen glen
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precisely why

fleet zealot
blissful frigate
spare dome
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they dont want a repeat of Swift Slaying

fleet zealot
spare dome
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and i know, 20% =/= 5% but thats not the point

blissful frigate
spare dome
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so realistically again all we'll see is something lame like backstab damage

lean lark
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I'm betting it all on nothing ever happens.

spare dome
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10% extra dodge range

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who knows

opal star
spare dome
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yeah thats way more likely -- nothing at all lmao

lean lark
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as in we'll just keep loner probably

frozen glen
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yeah because all zealot players are loners irl

spare dome
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either way literally ANYTHING AT ALL is an improvement

lean lark
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but nobody can see the future so it's up in the air

lean lark
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I'm sending another storm your way

spare dome
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if they made it deal 1% extra damage to every third elite killed it would still be improved

frozen glen
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im an exile on the path

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2

gray ice
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I feel like if we did get tree passes it'd be after some sorta ogryn changes

misty ravine
fleet zealot
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I had an idea for Tithe Aura, where all teammates get a small amount of ammo if someone picks up an ammo box or bag

gray ice
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They seem to get complained about with regularity

lean lark
spare dome
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Ogryn isn't even all that difficult to fix

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They just need to shift some of his power out of being exclusively heavy attack based

lean lark
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we just got past the survivalist ammo econ disaster

fleet zealot
# lean lark busted

i would make it worse than survivalist but then again, in my head ranged zealot would have at least one reliable ranged hybrid build, if not 2

opal star
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make ogryn immune to disablers shrug

gray ice
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Isn't that survivalist with extra steps KEKW

lean lark
fleet zealot
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so a fixed amount regardless of difficulty

frozen glen
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an aura that drains ammo from your teammates if you shoot at 0 ammo

misty ravine
opal star
fleet zealot
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but if vet can have a hybrid build path with right side, zealot should have a true hybrid path as well

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imo

lean lark
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etc

fleet zealot
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fixed as in, there is only X amount of ammo pickups per map

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not a fixed amount of bullets

lean lark
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we do not need a second ammo economy death is all I'm trying to say

opal star
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oh boy!

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fleet zealot
spare dome
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ammo is right where i want it to be tbh

fleet zealot
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they buffed in map ammo so fuckin much ammo only matters on havoc

spare dome
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i am mindful with my gun at havoc 40 and i can make it through without a survivalist vet

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thats fine

fleet zealot
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even auric damn ammo is just so easy to manage unless you are running some shit like 4 ogryn and even then heavy stubber probably fixed that

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Or just if you want to keep the selfish theme, make Tithe only give ammo to the zealot

plucky gate
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havoc just shows us how insane ammo economy was normally

spare dome
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correct

fleet zealot
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so you can pass ammo for your teammates to get, and get a small amount anyways

spare dome
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but people love to shoot their guns, and i dont really blame them

fleet zealot
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hundreds of full reserves on a map

lean lark
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no lol

fleet zealot
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like, total of 2500% ammo

lean lark
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they're reduced

spare dome
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two ammo crates + 400%ish ammo on a map normally

fleet zealot
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besides havoc

fleet zealot
spare dome
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wish i could remember which guide had that number cause i cant remember it perfectly

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and i might be rolling the ammo crates into it but

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its pretty high

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like i have never for a second accepted survivalist as being "mandatory" lmao

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prenerf or otherwise

lean lark
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in hav40 I think the numbers are ammo stash 20% ammo pickups 5% ammo crates 33%

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I could be misremembering

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but I know it's massively cut down

plucky gate
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the penalty in havoc is -75% from pickups

fleet zealot
quasi marsh
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It wasn't ever mandatory pre nerf

fleet zealot
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fatshark taking away their fun right to blast everything and never swap to melee

quasi marsh
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Frankly excessive

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On some guns you could just go through the whole map never picking up a single ammo box but have full ammo by the end

median steeple
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you WILL use melee in the hybrid game

lean lark
desert spear
fleet zealot
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i mean, it's excessive cause most people here are smart enough to realize darktide is a hybrid game where you have to melee to some extent

spare dome
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i have always stanned Close and Kill

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i have never stopped stanning Close and Kill

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and i continue to do so

fleet zealot
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there are people who just want to play darktide with just a ranged weapon like a normal shooter

quasi marsh
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I c&k in auric

spare dome
quasi marsh
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But I'll admit i switched to surv in havoc

spare dome
#

fatshark made all the guns feel really good to use

desert spear
#

yeah Iā€™m more of a melee fan

lean lark
#

when I'm zealot it's melee with extras, when I'm veteran I'm playing call of duty

desert spear
spare dome
#

and if you can scoot by in the difficulty you play at with just your gun, then more power to you

desert spear
#

I feel as if a handful of guns feel good

spare dome
#

i think only a handful feel bad

misty ravine
median steeple
#

las weapons are fun but damn the hit detection really hits me when I use them

quasi marsh
lean lark
#

they have a hit detection problem?

median steeple
#

It's more noticeable on them

misty ravine
median steeple
#

I've blasted a gunner in the head multiple times just for one bolt to count

#

it's crazy sometimes

misty ravine
#

Very frequently with single shot weapons, you can shoot something and get a hit marker and headshot noise but it doesn't count it (e.g. shooting a trapper in the head with a revolver, a headshot that actually registered would kill it under any circumstances)

lean lark
#

Definitely feels performance related

quasi marsh
#

I've noticed it on vigilants

spare dome
#

i get that on everything, lol

#

maybe a handful of times a day

#

melee, gun, tknife, you name it

quasi marsh
#

I feel like they should just make it client sided

lean lark
#

I was on 200ping and 70ping, mk10 laspistol vet and always saw the enemies healthbar change when I shoot them

quasi marsh
#

If someone wants to cheat whatever

plucky marsh
#

Fellas

#

what weps should I run for book havoc

gray ice
lean lark
#

flamer/laspistol/boltpistol/bolter

obtuse solstice
#

is this a dev

image.png
lean lark
#

yes

polar nexus
#

yes

gray ice
#

Haven't noticed it much with laspistol tho

median steeple
#

the only pistol like weapon I've noticed it on mostly is the bolt pistol really

lean lark
polar nexus
#

it's that zodiac girl right @obtuse solstice ?

lean lark
#

i probably would've noticed since I ran bolter very often

obtuse solstice
gray ice
#

Even when I get kidnapped to other servers it isn't hit detection that goes just general connection

#

when it's not mouth breathing things still get hit KEKW

polar nexus
fleet zealot
vague depot
#

Relic and not ds?

fleet zealot
#

ds is really niche on havoc

lean lark
#

relic blade sweeps

fleet zealot
#

you have to have a teammate practically in call you can trust to clear for you

vague depot
#

Oh is it because the ds horde clear is even worse because of the hitmass

fleet zealot
#

cause duelist cannot handle 21st and bruisers

#

let alone horde with 3x hitmass (thanks hidden mods)

vague depot
#

Got it alright

#

Iā€™m assuming knife also has the same issues

fleet zealot
#

yep

spare dome
#

watching a dueling sword try to work through an armoured horde is hilarious

plucky marsh
vague depot
#

Got it relic blade it is

#

Iā€™ll miss the rapier

spare dome
#

like a kid choking with a mouthful of toffee

fleet zealot
#

oh wait

#

i forgot cranial had a full name

#

you'll go some combination of rampage+cranial or leakage, then swap to wrath for 21st hordes or pox gas missions

#

i've been going rampage+leakage and just playing around 50<->90% charge range

vague depot
#

Can you swap blessings on the fly or should I just make two separate blades

lean lark
#

just make two blades

vague depot
#

Got it

fleet zealot
lean lark
#

we live in a post crafting rework world

#

make the 8th variation of your weapon for testing

spare dome
#

moewithtwoknifes.gif

mighty root
red swift
mighty root
#

Like yeah the relic is good but look at the psykers

red swift
#

Yeah, 2 blades, one with wrath and one without is the way

mighty root
#

I like my psykers alive because they do more than a perfect zealot

red swift
#

I like me alive because I like it when I do things xd

mighty root
#

Iā€™d rather use vet

#

And plasma them

#

Instead of wrath on relic

#

Or purg

fluid wren
#

Relic blade, high or low heat generation?

mighty root
#

Or trauma

mighty root
#

Dump mobility

red swift
#

I went low, but it's noticeable. I swapped IJ anyway and dumped mobility

mighty root
#

Or dump heat if you want better dodge

opal star
#

this rude ass daemonhost spawn

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fleet zealot
mighty root
fleet zealot
#

like i dropped a 1mill+ damage game last night and I'm pure support zealot

#

but flamer+relic is busted

mighty root
#

I pick off anything that gets passed the psykers

mighty root
#

Iā€™ve been running revolver

fleet zealot
#

it's really good for space making, but you need to have teammates you can rely on for ranged shit

#

but when you do, blue flame+red flame beam crossing

#

is juicy

modern lintel
mighty root
fleet zealot
jade juniper
#

guys sister prine keeps asking if she can touch me is this normal?

frozen glen
#

yeah she says that to everyone

#

kinda weird tbh

mighty root
jade juniper
#

i dont want to be touched :(

mighty root
#

I liked it

mighty root
modern lintel
jade juniper
#

ill poke you in the face with a comically large sword

mighty root
median steeple
fleet zealot
#

anyways, watching a vtuber play poe2 and for the last 2-3 hours she just keeps going "I should probably end stream soon"

#

and just continues playing

mighty root
#

Me with darktide

#

I gotta assist in more havocs

#

PlayStation led me your levels

#

Iā€™m just missing the helmet

lean lark
#

I want the havoc exemplar title

mighty root
jade juniper
#

"i should probably go to bed, its probably around 10:00pm" me, :clueless: at 2am

mighty root
#

I do too but thatā€™s 100 havocs

#

One billion havocs

lean lark
#

well if you keep getting under hav16 lobbies

mighty root
lean lark
#

you can probably Speedrun through them

#

like 13mins/run

mighty root
fluid wren
#

What about relic blades blessings? Overload sounds like fun

modern lintel
#

i thought i was gonna get true survivor the other day then realized at the end was only a hav 32

lean lark
#

it's just malice scaling at the end of the day

lean lark
fleet zealot
lean lark
#

the bis for relic blade are leakage+rampage

fleet zealot
#

50 dmg tiny explosion with high falloff and low adms too for some reason

fluid wren
#

ah ok

leaden pebble
#

i use cranial grounding + rampage
wrath over rampage in havoc

fleet zealot
#

only need wrath in high havocs with 21st and/or gas mod

#

since those both make things more dense

leaden pebble
#

yep

red swift
lean lark
#

No

red swift
#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEee

#

why not

jade juniper
#

what if there was a mode where instead of sending more elites, more specialists, more bosses, they just send exactly 400,000 poxwalkers throughout the course of the mission

#

and thats IT

leaden pebble
#

carpal tunnel simulator

frosty herald
lean lark
# red swift why not

more uptime while energized and some damage < more dmg, cleave and stagger dealt while in/out of energized

red swift
#

Rampage uptime isn't as good as cranial

#

not saying it's bad though

misty ravine
lean lark
jade juniper
#

smite psyker my beloved

lean lark
#

cranial is on weakspot, rampage is 3 or more enemies

#

but in havoc there's always more than 3 enemies

leaden pebble
#

omw to strangle all smitkers

jade juniper
#

good luck theyre busy smiting you

frozen trench
#

Me trying to get second wind toughness on stunned enemies

#

Itā€™s so over

#

No duellist procs

#

Itā€™s so over

misty ravine
#

Overload explosion has very weak stagger too btw. Fatshark still dreaming up trap blessings like the crafting rework was never done

sterile stone
leaden pebble
#

me trying to enjoy the game (the enemies just stand there stunned the whole time)

mighty root
jade juniper
#

mmmmm

lean lark
#

overload should be able to kill at least bucketheads while up close and poxwalkers at the max range

mighty root
#

Smite sucks!

jade juniper
#

skill issue

mighty root
#

Just use purg

jade juniper
#

skill issue

mighty root
lean lark
#

Anything would be better for overload

leaden pebble
#

so many crutch smitkers in my auric games dying to random shit cause they have no idea what to do if they get caught off guard

jade juniper
#

yes but you see, smite is F u n

#

foreign concept there

mighty root
mighty root
misty ravine
#

Overload would have to be pretty strong to justify taking a Blessing slot and deliberately entering lockout instead of just switching it off

leaden pebble
# jade juniper yes but you see, smite is F u n

not fun for your teammates
idc about offmeta builds, thatā€™s only changes how you play
but smite lets you make the amazing decision of how all 3 of your teammates are going to play too
hitting unresponsive meatsacks, mm how exciting

mighty root
spare dome
#

that third line is the big issue

heady quail
#

What is the dump stat on Knoif?

mighty root
#

Itā€™s gonna die!

jade juniper
#

plenty of meatsacks for everyone in higher difficulties

mighty root
spare dome
#

"The game is hard, I have therefore decided to turn it off for everyone. Please form a line to thank me."

mighty root
plucky gate
#

it's not really that fun to use imo

mighty root
jade juniper
#

smite isnt infinite

leaden pebble
spare dome
#

It's equally as exciting as Purgatus

plucky gate
#

press a button and watch things not move

spare dome
#

To me anyway

#

Just very fucking boring, single note, little variation

#

At least in the common sense of "smyker"

#

i do it way cooler, obviously, because i am effortlessly epic at all times

mighty root
leaden pebble
#

you disengage with all game mechanics to hold down right and left click

plucky gate
misty nova
hushed knoll
#

Hello screaming mushroom

jade juniper
#

i dont play smite as infinite

plucky gate
#

hi stan

mighty root
jade juniper
#

tbh i didnt know you could

mighty root
leaden pebble
#

oh no

mighty root
leaden pebble
#

another ep creeping flames smitker is born

plucky gate
#

forbidden knowledge

mighty root
#

@jade juniper stay out of my havocs

plucky gate
#

what have we done?

jade juniper
#

no i dont really care

mighty root
misty nova
#

Hmm
Maybe if I'm the last psyker to join I could go WS Scrier's Smite

jade juniper
#

im busy penance farming and will surely forget its existence

grizzled aspen
#

God, I'm so glad I decided to block fyrestone.

misty nova
#

Lots of specials and elites

#

Hmmmm

desert spear
#

are we talking about smite

grizzled aspen
#

Decided to humor who the blocked messages were this time and it's literally four back to back messages of that fucking stupid dog emote he posts nonstop.

mighty root
#

Little baby is upset

jade juniper
floral jasper
#

For to make

leaden pebble
#

lmao i love zealot chat sometimes

fleet zealot
#

they should make a maelstrom mod that just has enemies that give peril to psykers

grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
#

especially ones under the effect of smite

mighty root
#

Mad asf because they donā€™t have true survivor

desert spear
mighty root
frozen trench
#

Man idk how anyone would disengage from the most fun aspect of the game which is being crushed under the pressure of an elite advance but coming out on top with melee superiority, smite just muddles those moments from happening

desert spear
#

Are either just straight up bitchy bitches

#

or chill asf

jade juniper
desert spear
#

no inbetween

misty nova
#

The problem would be that high peril is good

floral jasper
#

Proper balance

grizzled aspen
misty nova
grizzled aspen
#

And it has been a long day.

#

I have been awake since 1am and it is now 430pm.

mighty root
#

Is baby need a change @grizzled aspen? is baby diaper full of shit?

grizzled aspen
#

And I have been at work for...

misty nova
#

Since for some reason FS made psykers whole thing peril

grizzled aspen
#

8 hours once it's 5pm.

clever swan
#

uh oh is chat in pushing and pointing and laughing mode

frozen trench
leaden pebble
misty nova
mighty root
#

Gtg smoke more crack

grizzled aspen
mighty root
floral jasper
#

XD

mighty root
#

Heā€™s lying you know

misty nova
mighty root
grizzled aspen
#

I would bet my entire paycheck that one of those messages fyrestone posted is a reply to what I said and its the stupid fucking dog.

mighty root
median steeple
clever swan
frozen trench
#

Tzeentch moment

desert spear
#

I like the idea of smite because it seems like it tried to be a team tool for you to use when you need enemies held in place for your allies to kill
But itā€™s just too spammy and weird and the shitty psykers rely too much on it

#

šŸ˜­

grizzled aspen
#

/j

mighty root
jade juniper
grizzled aspen
#

I am certain that's the fucking dog.

mighty root
frozen trench
mighty root
#

Dog thankful for Jesus

desert spear
#

guys Iā€™m actually a super werewolf Iā€™m just holding back

#

donā€™t make me angry

#

or else Iā€™ll let the beast out

#

crosses my arms

jagged cradle
#

Frye why are you fiending over frog of all people

vague depot
#

Iā€™m actually a psyker

jagged cradle
#

Itā€™s sad tbh

floral jasper
#

Just let go bruh

jade juniper
#

honestly kind of an asshole move

mighty root
#

I just like the emoji

vague depot
#

What does fiending mean

mighty root
vague depot
#

What

jagged cradle
desert spear
median steeple
#

sorry about that

jagged cradle
#

Silly goober

median steeple
mighty root
frozen trench
modern lintel
#

me when im vapidly autistic

sullen forge
frozen trench
jade juniper
#

i stopped playing for honor after i put a hole in my desk (i played lawbringer post top heavy stun removal)

median steeple
leaden pebble
#

why does fh make people so angry

median steeple
#

sometimes it's plate

#

sometimes its chainmail

frozen trench
#

Safe answer

leaden pebble
#

(i have 3000 hours on the game)

jagged cradle
#

šŸ¤Ø

frozen trench
#

Bro cannot show his cringe main pick for scrutiny

sullen forge
#

On my way to play a game that makes me incredibly angry

#

(For honor)

jade juniper
jagged cradle
frozen trench
#

I mained gladiator for the deflect impales

leaden pebble
#

what reasons

jade juniper
#

they removed top heavy stun for lawbringer and now my muscle memory drops combos

sullen forge
leaden pebble
#

im very happy they removed stuns

jagged cradle
sullen forge
desert spear
#

zealot chat I love you but if you keep talking about for honor Iā€™m gonna paint my wall

jagged cradle
jade juniper
sullen forge
leaden pebble
#

i love for honor!! i love centurion!! incredibilis!!!

modern lintel
#

unironicly if for honor ever added a landsknecht id drop whatever i was playing just to try for honor again after swearing it off like 3 years ago

jade juniper
#

halberd my beloved

leaden pebble
#

ive slowed down on it the last few years
sad they had to slash the budget and the fh team has been smoking crack the last little while

jade juniper
#

bec-de-corbin in darktide when?

frozen trench
misty ravine
leaden pebble
frozen trench
#

Bro mind games me beyond feeblemindedness

modern lintel
#

i stopped playing around at the end of the year they added black prier jorm and the other 2 after getting conq to max rep

jade juniper
#

doesnt need power its deadly enough

misty ravine
#

It's the bestest weapon ever because it's got reach, a spear point, hammer head, axe blade, spike, another spike, and a more different spike

jade juniper
#

true

#

truly the melee weapon of all time

frozen trench
modern lintel
#

me like conq cause flat top helmets and flail

leaden pebble
misty ravine
#

And you can swing melee weapon through walls in Tide games so the awkwardness of using polearms indoors is no problem

jade juniper
#

this is true

frozen trench
#

The brainlet fears the turtle who can openly engage and option select punish on a whim, conq scary

modern lintel
#

warlord my beloved

jade juniper
#

wtf is option select btw

leaden pebble
#

option selects
ranked was borderline unplayable cause of conq

plucky sparrow
#

dump stat on shock maul is mobility i assume?

frozen trench
modern lintel
#

i miss the days when conq could literally just zone attk fuck you to like 90% of the things in game

jade juniper
leaden pebble
# jade juniper wtf is option select btw

input one thing but can have multiple outcomes depending on what your opponent does
like the most common one is zone on parry time, if the attack went through it parried it but if they feinted it your zone would slap them

vague depot
plucky sparrow
#

while active

modern lintel
#

ya

jade juniper
#

is that like a console thing?

leaden pebble
#

no

#

then there were gb option selects
conq had several of them

#

harder to pull off but way more broken

modern lintel
#

conq used to be a walking option select idk if still is

plucky sparrow
jade juniper
#

how are they accessed, utilized, harnessed

leaden pebble
frozen trench
# jade juniper how

Some attacks can only be avoided with a dodge, counter guard break, parry, you input a move that either makes your opponent dodge or call your bluff

plucky sparrow
#

conq at least can feint his attacks now KEKW_ogryn

jade juniper
#

can option select make lawbringer good again?

leaden pebble
#

mfw they give lb, a strong character his roll catch finally but conq is garbage rn and still doesnā€™t have one

frozen trench
#

Warden would be, charges bash into commit or cancel, you dodge or take the bash and get hit either way

leaden pebble
#

they reworked conq, nerfed it and forgot about him lmao

#

lb is in a good place tho

modern lintel
jade juniper
#

the last time i played was soon after lawbringer got his top heavy stun removed so idk whats changed since then

frozen trench
#

Iā€™m not defining option selects in full detail, just using vague surface knowledge of a game I havenā€™t played in a while

leaden pebble
jade juniper
#

wuh

frozen trench
#

YouTube if you are interested in looking at the game

leaden pebble
#

yeah heā€™s quite strong atm

#

just gave him a roll catch too

jade juniper
#

can i still heby shob

#

like a smooth brain ape

leaden pebble
#

yep

#

you can shove on light now

#

and he has light chains

#

and an infinite

#

so id say heā€™s good lmao

jade juniper
#

an infinite?

leaden pebble
#

unblockable heavy, light tap and into unblockable heavy or shove

modern lintel
#

last time i remembered conq could light and heavy infinitely interchangeably

leaden pebble
#

so yes

jade juniper
#

he had one

leaden pebble
#

lb has an infinite mixup chain

#

cause he can chain off finisher

jade juniper
#

heavy, shove, heavy heavy, shove, heavy heavy, repeat until out of stamina

frozen trench
#

Miss parries and deflects in that game

#

Thatā€™s it really

modern lintel
#

wonder if theyll ever try a for honor 2

leaden pebble
#

ubisoft is going under

frozen trench
#

I love high risk high reward gameplay mechanics

leaden pebble
#

no way itā€™s not

frozen trench
#

Ya

#

Their formula dead af

leaden pebble
#

xdefiant was a flop
shadows is already totally overshadowed by yotei

#

garbage company that makes cookie cutter games for the sole incentive of profit

placid fiber
#

I have no clue what you guys are talking about rn >.>

median steeple
#

playing for honor sometimes feels like ass but man I'm so glad it has been spared from most of the ubisofts fucked up microtransactions

leaden pebble
placid fiber
#

I've read some of what you were saying and I have gleamed no information that I could use x.x

jade juniper
frozen trench
#

For honor fun if you can tolerate frustrating mechanics pushed by other players

#

Skill issue in my case

leaden pebble
median steeple
#

every fighting game

#

OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE FIGHTING A GERAS

leaden pebble
frozen trench
#

Yeah fighting games ainā€™t my cup of tea and for honor was the closest thing for me

jade juniper
#

they dont roll they just do some bullshit and poke you 30 times in 3 seconds

leaden pebble
#

and lots of spam tactics or whatnot are noob traps
they decimate new players but you canā€™t climb mmr

placid fiber
#

so you guys are talking about for honor, then, I am guessing? lol

leaden pebble
#

parry? lol

jade juniper
#

its all lights how do i light parry

leaden pebble
#

a decent player can shut down light spam

#

you just parry on red

modern lintel
#

the only reason i ever even played fh is cause i was fiending for chiv1 but its dead as hell and mordhau wasnt out yet

placid fiber
leaden pebble
#

think theyā€™re gonna do a light
parry as soon as you see the indicator come out

frozen trench
leaden pebble
#

you get used to it

jade juniper
#

shaman jumps on you how do i make her stop

frozen trench
#

No harm no foul other than bragging rights but it be that way sometimes

leaden pebble
jade juniper
#

i might be smooth brain ape, chat

leaden pebble
#

itā€™s a high skill ceiling game and probably one of the hardest to get into later in its life cycle

but all spams or bullshit or whatever youā€™d like to call it is punishable
lots of players who utilize those get shut down immediately by anyone who knows what theyā€™re doing

#

in general tho the games about getting into your opponentā€™s head and forcing them to make the wrong reads and giving you something you can punish
condition them into thinking youā€™re gonna do something youā€™re not, then punish them for it

#

ala, fighting game

#

like if you make the read that the shaman will try to jump on you, go for a light interrupt
if you do that more than once the shaman might feint the jump then parry your light interrupt

gray ice
#

Light spammers usually get caught out with feints pretty easy

jade juniper
#

how do i get in the head of an ai shaman

gray ice
#

Carefully

leaden pebble
#

play all the characters, that helps
but just experience

#

playing the game
thatā€™s it

vague depot
#

Itā€™s like a fighting game thereā€™s always gonna be guesswork

placid fiber
jade juniper
leaden pebble
#

i had no coaching or help
i went from being a light spammer myself to grandmaster
it just takes time and dedication
probably not the answer you wanna hear but thatā€™s it
no video is going to teach you how to adapt to the current fight

placid fiber
#

I don't play fighting games, myself. They aren't my cup of tea

frozen trench
#

No harm no foul other than bragging rights but it be that way sometimes

copper hawk
#

Yah

#

Im like overall rep 300 on fh and have been on n off since the open beta

#

Hate it ,, hate dat game ,,

#

Chum all afeera and pirate playerz,,

leaden pebble
#

am about rep 400
love the game

copper hawk
#

And BP playerz

jade juniper
#

i liked the campaign it was fun

leaden pebble
#

pirate is fun
so is bp
afeera is eh

median steeple
leaden pebble
#

donā€™t like the newer characters

copper hawk
#

Fuck Pirate

plucky sparrow
#

its very silly

median steeple
#

I love VG so much.....

copper hawk
#

Insane hyper armor on start ups to attacks that are feintable and have unblockable properties

leaden pebble
#

she was broken on release but sheā€™s like
just good now

#

now VG
that shit is just bad lol

clever swan
#

yall ready for hl3 to be announced at TGA

copper hawk
#

500 ms dodge attack cancels w next to no gb invuln

#

Confirmed 5 damage attack on any heavy hit

#

Soft feintable unblockable hyper armor finisher that pins and can splat/confirm a 15 dmg light

#

Absurd

plucky sparrow
#

doesnt the pistol shot stagger even hyper armor ?

copper hawk
#

Yes

#

And interrupts everything

#

No gn vulnerability on whiff

#

Gb*

plucky sparrow
#

i do like that they made her pistol feats chain into her combos in replacement of pistol shot if you want to do that

leaden pebble
#

never had a problem with pirate since the nerfs
dodge attack unlock is a bad thing but that applies to other characters with dodge cancels as well

copper hawk
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She has too much in her kit

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It's stupid

leaden pebble
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doesnā€™t really feel like it to me
vg does tho

copper hawk
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Hyper armor and unblockables shouldnt be paired together

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Especially when said attacj is soft feintable and a pin

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Attack*

lunar fable
placid fiber
copper hawk
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It's the only attack like this in the game btw

plucky sparrow
placid fiber
copper hawk
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Afeera's insane damage and stamina management

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She's nuts in duels

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Soft feint dodges, double lights both w cc's

plucky sparrow
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afeera is a bitch of a character

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i hate her

copper hawk
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Kick combo w a wall confirms 45 damage

leaden pebble
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think afeera and vg are badly designed

copper hawk
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+thigh grab if in dominion

oak lance
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anyone wanna give me some tips for behind enemy lines

leaden pebble
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but pirate is fine outside of the dodge cancel attacks

copper hawk
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I disagree

plucky sparrow
placid fiber
plucky sparrow
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also tell your teammates to stay away from you

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otherwise you'll always have that one nice teammate who doesnt want you to die

oak lance
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thats the biggest issue ive been having they chase me and try to keep up lol

copper hawk
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Imagine if centurion's finisher unblockable had hyper armor, was 100ms faster, and the impact confirmed a wallsplat

placid fiber
leaden pebble
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she was very oppressive when she came out but sheā€™s fallen off, and power crept

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Nah she's one of the best chars in the game w her options

oak lance
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last match though i got knocked to an area i couldnt get back from by a pow burster 1st time ever for that

copper hawk
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And her base stamina

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She does less damage now but has THE best 50/50 of any hero in the game in her kit

leaden pebble
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but hey i havent played in a while
im in gm mmr in 4s but i didnt see pirate very often tbh

plucky sparrow
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i used to be pretty decent at gladiator (for a noob at for honor) then i stopped playing

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then when i got back into it i couldnt play any assassin for the life of me

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also didnt they remove reflex guard

copper hawk
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Pirate isnt good in 4x4s except with her unlock dodges

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And her gunstrike builds a ton of revenge

red swift
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she has a pin which is extremely good

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so that also makes her ganking good

copper hawk
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Yah