zealot-class

[remote lark]

im still bent out of shape

ratogre says they're not a furry but like

[grizzled aspen]

You're just out of shape, fatass.

[twin wagon]

An anthro hyena

[grizzled aspen]

Lose weight.

[twin wagon]

With bad posture

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-3284201032904258120

[clear mortar]

it's sfw

[grizzled aspen]

I doubt it.

[twin wagon]

To be expected

[remote lark]

patpatpatpatpatpat

[twin wagon]

Yes

[clear mortar]

yes

[twin wagon]

Actually when I finish "working" I will send the screenshot in here

[hushed knoll]

Why are you so violent and mean

[twin wagon]

to terrorize closet furries and real furries alike

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii deserves it.

As do you.

For differing reasons.

[rocky nacelle]

yes

[hushed knoll]

I don’t deserve it

[merry flume]

I need a bowl of cereal and another bowl

[remote lark]

vviiiiicccc

yes or nooooo :<

[twin wagon]

lmao

[twin wagon]

Head empty

[merry flume]

I'm celebrating my belated bday today since I'm off

[twin wagon]

No thoughts

[grizzled aspen]

No, you deserve nothing.

[modern lintel]

happy 87th birthday

[grizzled aspen]

Suffer in your dog bed cage.

[remote lark]

i have something i could give you for your birthday

[grizzled aspen]

Alone.

[clear mortar]

it's first 50 meters of mission

[grizzled aspen]

UNFAITHFUL WENCH

[remote lark]

awrf

how am i unfaithful

[merry flume]

yeah how long are you gonna be on

[remote lark]

i was gonna give him... a birthday card

[twin wagon]

Bark deserves to hear my beautiful accent on microphone

I have a great chancla throwing voice

[grizzled aspen]

That's it, I'm getting the eccleisarchy involved. You WILL sign these divorce papers.

[remote lark]

ummmm
a few hours

or until i fall asleep

when i fall asleep depends entirely on when u stop moving long enough for me to crawl on top of u

[merry flume]

I toss and turn a lot

[grizzled aspen]

Unfaithful...

[remote lark]

frogs crashing out

[hushed knoll]

Blab

[remote lark]

frog when r u getting vr

[lunar fable]

yes stan

[grizzled aspen]

I dont have the money for vr...

Vr is expensive.

[twin wagon]

Frog have you considered stock exchange?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, but I am too stupid to pull it off, unfortunately.

I am a grunt, through and through.

[twin wagon]

Just gamble, we already gambled in dt, may as well gamble for real

[grizzled aspen]

The only thing I know how to do is put my head down and do jobs people don't want.

[remote lark]

god

[grizzled aspen]

Yay, soon to have a factory job that will expedite my already destroyed body!

[undone pewter]

Always interesting coming here.

[remote lark]

i wonder how much i've spent on vr total over the last 3 years

let me tally up the main things

[twin wagon]

Check steam hours

[remote lark]

i meant money :)

[twin wagon]

Check steam purchase history

[grizzled aspen]

Lumii probably has like 2k hours in vrchat and half of them are sleeping on random people because he's a manwhore.

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-walking-away-leaving-bye-pepe-the-frog-gif-6463915606758186278

[remote lark]

4.3k hours actually

[grizzled aspen]

Even fucking worse.

[merry flume]

that's it?

[grizzled aspen]

Scandalous wench.

[lunar fable]

@hard nexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZ2O4MDkn0

[merry flume]

I have like 11k between steam VR and oculus

[lunar fable]

[twin wagon]

Bark what if, what if we played FTL in Vrchat?

[remote lark]

i was an mmo junkie when vrchat first came out so i didn't play it a ton

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway, I have to go clock in to get the bread.

Smell yall later.

[remote lark]

headset(s) - 3.5k
trackers: 700 + 2000 + 800 + 500 (total 4k)
controllers / stations: 400
networking equipment for vr: 300
audio equipment for vr: 600

[grizzled aspen]

Not you, though, @remote lark . Expect divorce papers in the mail.

[remote lark]

$8800 total on VR

not including my pc setup

[merry flume]

how many bds did you get alongside all the VR

[remote lark]

:3

[merry flume]

it's ok you'll show me when you get on

[remote lark]

[slate haven]

Bark

R U down

To run some

L8r

[remote lark]

run what

🤨

[slate haven]

Darktide?

[merry flume]

I kind of want to Darktide

[remote lark]

ok

[remote lark]

u can if u want

[slate haven]

Yayuh

[remote lark]

esp since i'll probably just fall asleep in vr

x3

[remote lark]

i think im gonna off myself actually

[twin wagon]

Bark I have the scree

[merry flume]

I would be down for VR if I literally didn't wake up like

15 mins ago

[remote lark]

i haven't slept yet

[remote lark]

:3

[remote lark]

how does that have 400k polys

[twin wagon]

Idk

Lmao

It does have jiggle physics

[modern lintel]

huh

[remote lark]

my bf took this pic a few days ago

[twin wagon]

for ears and tummy degenerates

[remote lark]

where-

oh

[empty python]

the things I do for Havoc

[twin wagon]

[remote lark]

what

the fuck

[merry flume]

crusty ass game

[remote lark]

is this

[twin wagon]

Runescape

[empty python]

wonky ahhh config

[remote lark]

i genuinely think i hate u

never type again

thx

[twin wagon]

Beans check
Individual hair strands, check
Million details check

Server status, lower performance

[empty python]

I've been playing Havocs in 30 fps, got to around 33 now xD, i'm wondering if this might help me more lmao

[merry flume]

I have the coolest avatar here btw

[grizzled aspen]

No, don't do that, I have to be the one to kill you.

[remote lark]

alli-gay-tor

[twin wagon]

Is it the gator, the one on the left, the cat on the leg or the one at the back?

[remote lark]

hes a croc

[twin wagon]

Scaly

Aproved

[rocky nacelle]

bad news for relic blade users

[merry flume]

wasn't it fixed

[rocky nacelle]

no disdain is good on relic blade

im not sure if the relic blade dodges have been patched yet

[twin wagon]

[rocky nacelle]

(if they're intentional or not)

[remote lark]

can u explain

[heady frost]

whats wrong with them

[twin wagon]

Relic dodges are unpatched last time I checked

[rocky nacelle]

look in the dumbass server

i did a bunch of disdain testing

TLDR good on relic blade

[jolly scaffold]

hey any reason to use heaavy las [poistol over bolt pistol

[remote lark]

lolol

[twin wagon]

but hey immo grenades now properly deal fire damage on the last tick

Instead of ranged damage

[remote lark]

mm

preference

ghost is "useful" in havoc i suppose

[undone pewter]

Shock trooper on vet

[steep hound]

"Fixed an issue where the "Purging Flame" Penance didn't increment correctly." Thank the emperor

[twin wagon]

Bark you should play Havok 40 with only autopistol

[remote lark]

no :)

[twin wagon]

See how fast party finder kicks you out

[remote lark]

im climbing havoc rlly slow anyway

i only have like

2-3 hours to queue it a week reasonably

bc i normally work til 2am

no non-shitter parties

[desert spear]

I have outright no time for havoc at all

[twin wagon]

hmmm, that can be fixed, contact frog and force him to carry you

[desert spear]

cause I have to find a group to do it with n such it’s a hassle

[twin wagon]

Then frog will force someone to carry him

[remote lark]

frogs worse than me

oh true

[twin wagon]

[remote lark]

🤨

[desert spear]

then I have to have time in my day to communicate because I play in my living room lol

[twin wagon]

Which means I'll be there as the forever rando and get carried by the remaining player

[merry flume]

too busy relearning melee psyker to play havoc

[undone pewter]

You don't have to communicate a ton besides "Go there"

[twin wagon]

Using for the emperor to ping quite handy for that

[rocky nacelle]

so you can finally go bubble and I can abuse scriers right

[empty python]

gaming

peak

[twin wagon]

Why do people like Hadron?

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/grinning-dog-gif-25034576

[twin wagon]

Hadron stinks

[modern lintel]

after p much only playing vet for like 4 months straight i relearned zealot and relic to hav40

[desert spear]

do psykers not running bubble get executed on the spot I never see them not using bubble

[twin wagon]

Bricked so many weapons

[desert spear]

hey

don’t say that

[undone pewter]

Cos she's funny

[merry flume]

id hope so, zealot is cracked in havoc

[twin wagon]

Sort of, most party finders won't take you without it

[desert spear]

holy shit it’s Solar warlocks all over again

[plain minnow]

Boltgun dump, mobility or collateral?

[twin wagon]

Even asking "Can I run venting/scrier" is a sin

[modern lintel]

iv still not done it as vet i tried one game as ogryn crumbled instantly

[undone pewter]

Mobility

[merry flume]

I will never touch bubble mark my words

[twin wagon]

Run bubble, then last second switch to vent

[modern lintel]

iv not even had a hope to try it w pskker yet

[desert spear]

I like bubble shield abilities in games so I’ll probably just nab it anyway

[steep hound]

And most parties just straight up refuse ogryns

[merry flume]

I like benefitting from it but I hate using it

[lunar fable]

were you not using bubble when we were playing

[desert spear]

it’s a shame because like I used to play psyker with bubble and lightning way back

[twin wagon]

thanks to Tanner misinformation

[merry flume]

scriers

[desert spear]

wtf lol

[lunar fable]

bruh so it was the smyker using second bubble

[desert spear]

we love anti-fun

[modern lintel]

bubbles nice just for the toughness regen otherwise i only ever use the 2 wall shields

[rocky nacelle]

just made a MkX stab loop

bosses are cooked

lmfao

[lunar fable]

what

[desert spear]

fap

😈

[modern lintel]

[lunar fable]

[rocky nacelle]

do sprinting thrust attack -> the second it hits -> tknife

go back to sprinting immediately after the tknife

free stab loop for bosses/tankier boys

[lunar fable]

when will i be freed from book jail

[rocky nacelle]

you can also block cancel to do the run stab loop

but its way slower (cause you have to see the block animation for at least a second)

[desert spear]

I love throwing knives

[modern lintel]

it was only ever simply a jail of your own construct you fool

[desert spear]

I’ve domed so many shock troopers in the head with them

[lunar fable]

this is fake

[hot steppe]

if i have a curio with xp does that benefit mastery or no

[twin wagon]

Must do scriptures
Must do grims
Forced to loose 2 books/1 grim to pub players

[twin wagon]

no

[rocky nacelle]

also lumi says running and special activating takes forever but you can actually (tknife to cancel it, or just mash heavy or light to transition quickly into attacking)

[twin wagon]

Crusher activation tech

[steep hound]

I avoided tknives since they came out, but now I have to use them for the build I want since I need all my points. I think I need a crosshair mod so I can land my tknife shots lol the little pixel dot isn't cutting it in the middle of chaos

[rocky nacelle]

crusher and TH activation tech requires more blocking

tbh

[twin wagon]

[rocky nacelle]

you can block after activating with relic sword but its not worth it

[desert spear]

I’m a fucking marksman with throwing knives

and I’m on console

Lmfao

[rocky nacelle]

(considering activating the special gives you block frames anyway)

🤐

[twin wagon]

Console has auto aim

[modern lintel]

not on knives

[jolly scaffold]

so what MK and blessiong/perks should I run on the heavy pistol

[twin wagon]

I've seen knives do full 180s to hit things

Clearly the work of a console abuser

[undone pewter]

The heavy... Las pistol?

[jolly scaffold]

yeah

[undone pewter]

Dum dum, ghost, infernus... desperado? Is that good?

I've heard it's okay

[obsidian prairie]

The normal laspistol is considered a heavy laspistol

[undone pewter]

I know they just said heavy pistol

[merry flume]

laspistols are viable

[obsidian prairie]

Oh I blind

[merry flume]

scab deleter

[twin wagon]

crit machines*

Mobility stick*

[misty ravine]

Laspistol is much better for Vet than Zealot but it's still okay. Ghost stops being a meme in Havoc

[rocky nacelle]

I like the Mk2 having an uppercut

but overall MkX has a better moveset for me

(also looks cooler)

[hard nexus]

peak!

[sullen forge]

Something something crutch blessing

[misty ravine]

Dumdum Infernus typically, or Dumdum Raking fire for Ambuscade stealth memery (use an infantry autogun if you must do this)

Also if you are on PC I highly recommend full auto mod for the Mk2 laspistol

[sullen forge]

DD + Ghost
Inf + Ghost in havoc if you’re on Vet

Matters how racist you feel towards pus afflicted enemies

[undone pewter]

I am feeling rather racist towards them so I run it

[sullen forge]

Skill issue if you can’t melee kill a pus reaper in close range just saying 🤷‍♂️

[rocky nacelle]

cant wait to try energy leakage/ramp

in a real match later

[sullen forge]

Whilst it’s reved and firing

[undone pewter]

I can I use it to bop snipers

[modern lintel]

fotf moment

[rocky nacelle]

reminder cole is the first xbox player to H40

with relic blade FOTF only

[sullen forge]

Fucking wild that with EFL that’ll probably still get you to lose at minimum some HP

[twin wagon]

Wasn't it technically SpagettiDan?

[lunar fable]

i want to play fotf relic blade

[twin wagon]

In OCE

[lunar fable]

but i'm book jailed

[modern lintel]

couldve been i dont see a lot of console players in discord

[twin wagon]

[desert spear]

no, it’s less of auto aim and more of it slows your camera down when hovering over an enemy

[steep hound]

The book finding event was a godsend, pubbies actually picking up all the books. Even grims! Never did so many 2-grim missions in my life

[desert spear]

it’s really fucking annoying

When you’re trying to turn around and run

and your camera slows down cause there’s an enemy

[modern lintel]

now that i think of it i know a rlly good console chiv2 player that had a similar name pizzasteve funnily

[rocky nacelle]

legendary name

its always the meme names

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-steve-slice-of-life-uncle-grandpa-gif-12583859

[twin wagon]

Funny story, SpagettiDan OCEndt is not related to SpagettiDan NA Chiv2/mordhau

Sadly

[mighty mesa]

hmm, im not usre whether i should lean into the meme and go IJ with ds5 or if i should go the safe route and go piety and thrust

[twin wagon]

Have you tried crushers instead

[hard nexus]

shes so me

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/granny-seiko-crab-seiko-ayase-pull-dandadan-gif-8469221557770731103

[twin wagon]

That's not how you de-meat a crab leg wtf Yamato

[clear mortar]

ur makeup skills are trash tbh💅

[clear mortar]

i thought it's a whip

[twin wagon]

why would you add a crab leg to a whip

[clear mortar]

sassy

[ivory marlin]

Guys why do people hate Jeff so much

Any time i open tiktok i see him getting brutalized

[clear mortar]

i don't have tiktok

who's jeff

[ivory marlin]

Jeff

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1315878545720868937/GIF_20241209_211020_300.gif

[ivory marlin]

:(

[violet hornet]

Roomba looking ass

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-major-general-ffxiv-gif-2225911870593737747

[sullen forge]

I hate this stupid fucker throwing my entire team off the map

Hatred

[ivory marlin]

I tk’ed once

Or twice

[twin wagon]

Skill issue

[ivory marlin]

Both on accident

I get tunnel vision when i ult

[sullen forge]

Insert image of hulk solo ulting Jeff here

[ivory marlin]

If i don’t instantly see you in my mouth and you don’t tell me i will kill you

[ivory marlin]

D:

[sullen forge]

It’s so fucking funny

[ivory marlin]

I’ve never been ulter by a hulk

I hear “im hulking out” and back off

[grizzled aspen]

Sassy old ladies are funny.

[twin wagon]

I disagree

[sullen forge]

You will be stomped into the pavement a minimum of 5 times

Minimum

[ivory marlin]

:(

Im just a little guy

I never hit more than like 20 kills

I think highest healing i ever hit was 20k

[ivory marlin]

Thats a lie i think Ive gone 28-0 before

[calm wolf]

what curios yall use on havoc?

[heavy bronze]

+XP

[sullen forge]

Yea that’s the issue you heal enemy me stomp you into pavement

[drowsy steppe]

zealot I go toughness with toughness perk *3

combat and stam regen * 3

[rough galleon]

triple 1 stamina curios
triple xp
triple dockets
triple dog

[calm wolf]

xp why xd

[twin wagon]

2 toughness 1 hp
Toughness
Revive speed
Gunner res 2
Combat ability 1

[heavy bronze]

Get dat big money.

[grand tangle]

Does xp work for weapon mastery?

Could be a legit reason to use it

[calm wolf]

useless

at all

[lament blaze]

As a pretty casual player I found mastery and xp to come very fast.

[gleaming furnace]

Yes

[vital lava]

Survival matters more then that xp gain

[cloud kiln]

got my first 40 done 🙏

[calm wolf]

I wish i had a team to do 40.. all randos I get are absoltelyy oblivious

[cloud kiln]

I played with randos

[calm wolf]

so lucky

[cloud kiln]

although it did look a bit dicey at times

[frozen coral]

relic+book piety or IJ or IJ with IoD?

[gleaming furnace]

Piety

[cloud kiln]

love me some piety

[toxic dock]

ok so ive been relic sword pilled

mark 2 is a so beautiful i could cry

rampage still buffs cleave right?

[lean lark]

yes

leakage rampage is bis for relic blade

[gleaming furnace]

Does cranial grounding do anything ?

[lean lark]

it does

but its not enough

cranial is really only needed if for some reason you go heat dump instead of mobility dump

[toxic dock]

how about wrath?

[lean lark]

wrath is good if you're lightspam mk10 or in moebian 21st high havoc

wrath rampage is what i go for moebian 21st hav40

because i lightspam

[toxic dock]

not so much for mk2 tho right?

[gleaming furnace]

I need to try it without cranial. The description makes it seem like it would extend the uptime in a charged state

[lean lark]

yeah mk2 doesnt have that issue since it's horde clear combo gets enough cleave through leakage/rampage

[lean lark]

yeah but its not good

you get more uptime and like scraps for dmg

[gleaming furnace]

[lean lark]

you can have all the uptime you want but if you arent dealing enough dmg/have enough cleave its wasted

[gleaming furnace]

Bummer

[toxic dock]

ok other than rampage it does kinda seem like blessing kinda suck

[gleaming furnace]

I was rly hoping for like infinite uptime provided there are heretics about

[toxic dock]

but like thats probably a balance thing because its so fucking good baseline

[lean lark]

leakage is good

[gleaming furnace]

Yea how tf they forgot a crit blessing

[lean lark]

with good heat control you can have a permanent 10% strength active at all times

and on-demand higher boss dmg

not much, but a noticeable amount

[gleaming furnace]

How high does it need to be get that 20% tho ?

[toxic dock]

i take it faster for getting heat back to not overheat into lockout right?

[gleaming furnace]

Has anyone ever been far even as want to use go look more like ?

[cloud kiln]

what

[toxic dock]

if you hit lock out it takes longer for you to hit zero heat than if you get to the point the bar is flashing and turn it off

[cloud kiln]

feel like I just had a stroke reading that

[grizzled aspen]

Leakage is not good, but I don't have the time to explain why rn.

[hard nexus]

real!

frog is a true

[twin wagon]

Leakage is the explosion one?

I can explain why it's bad

[toxic dock]

no leakage is power scaling with heat

[twin wagon]

Oh that's bad

Because I say so

also because scaling is slower than other options

[rocky nacelle]

leakage is annoying because you have to be near full to get a full 5 stack use of it

you can properly use it yes

[toxic dock]

yeah thats what id assume you get a good chunk of time in the power state

[rocky nacelle]

Is it annoying to maintain at a consistent high level

Also yes

it’s all on the user

but I’m a fan of buffing my base sword so

I could care less that energy leak “makes me use empowered less”

people forget you can speed run the power bar by spamming in heat though

[cloud kiln]

less think more good :^)

[rocky nacelle]

so it’s realistically not too bad to maintain high energy leak

again it’s all on the user

[toxic dock]

so is grounding is the "just play the game normally and do more damage" one right?

[grizzled aspen]

Ok so basically, you don't want leakage because playing around high heat is bad.

[rocky nacelle]

for some

[grizzled aspen]

You lose your ability to turn your sword on and deal with large groups of threats.

You are significantly better off having cranial to prevent heat gain/heatsink to make your sword cool faster.

[grand tangle]

Leakage needs more reward than 20% to be worth the effort imo

Maybe 40%

[gleaming furnace]

Yeaj

[grizzled aspen]

This.

[grand tangle]

Or, alternatively, give the full 20% strength when above 50% heat

Not at 99%

[grizzled aspen]

Also, I am of the opinion that relic blade needs higher base cleave.

[light badge]

pox burster frame goes kinda hard ngl

[stone fern]

so tru king so truuuu

[merry flume]

got mine yesterday

[stone fern]

give relic brutal momentum and uncanny

[grand tangle]

No, it doesn't, it needs a better cleave blessing

[grizzled aspen]

Shit yourself.

[stone fern]

again?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

And you aren't allowed to shower after.

Crusty boy.

[grand tangle]

Give all weapons bromentum tbh

[grand tangle]

Headshit kills should cleave anyways, it's a decapitation

[stone fern]

please dont include me into your fetish frog

[grizzled aspen]

Remove bromentum and all sources of rending, increase base cleave and improve ADMs.

Including DOT ADMs.

[calm wolf]

does corruption curios work on havoc?

[light badge]

headshit

[stone fern]

yeah

[twin wagon]

Mauler frame is best

[grizzled aspen]

Don't enemies already have different hitmass values for headshots/bodyshots?

[twin wagon]

Voidstrike psykers know it beat

lmao

[lean lark]

20% is at 90% and higher heat

which is annoying to get to for those 30k boss dmg chastises

but it pays off

[lean lark]

do you want to know something interesting about this frame

[brisk lily]

Fixed an issue where the "Purging Flame" Penance didn't increment correctly.

Okay did it actually work

[light badge]

sure

[brisk lily]

because I ground out 800 goddamn kills on this thing before this patch

[lean lark]

go look at 100 mission completion frames

the raid/strike one i forgot which of th two

and compare it to the poxburster one

[light badge]

that is indeed cool

we know what's in the vacuum capsules now

[lean lark]

this is what i was pointing at

its the same

[light badge]

I gotta be honest I legit didn't see it the first time because I thought "oh hey, that's convenient, the pox burster one is right next to the pack grox"

then I realized

lmao

it reeks of placeholder asset

[gleaming furnace]

Weird looking cat

[light badge]

https://tenor.com/view/reignald-monsterhouse-eat-hungry-munch-gif-19913088

[twin wagon]

[grizzled aspen]

HAG NO YOU CANT EAT THE POSSUM

[lean lark]

sniper frame looks so good on vet

[fleet zealot]

too big for that

[fleet zealot]

but anyways, I think, there is a place for some rending, but it has to be balanced in relation to everything else

[lean lark]

need matching insignia

[fleet zealot]

i think the values around 20% are much healthier than uncanny going past 100%

i think rending cap should be 50%

[light badge]

this one matches pretty well

[lean lark]

its ok

[fleet zealot]

so you are taking say, a useless against armor weapon and making it somewhat usuable vs armor, not "you ignore armor completely lol"

[lean lark]

my eyes are on this one

but

its gonna be a while

[cloud kiln]

at least it's pretty low effort

[grizzled aspen]

Rending doesn't even need to exist.

[lean lark]

yeah

[cloud kiln]

but it does look nice

[lean lark]

the havoc cache frame looks nice too

[grizzled aspen]

It's just a lazy workaround for testing good ADM values.

[fleet zealot]

I think it should

[lean lark]

gives hazard hunter vibes though

[fleet zealot]

it's rewarding for players and can be an alternative side grade

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, but you get my point, though.

[fleet zealot]

but it should be bonked hard with a bat

like look at oppurtunist

that's a rending blessing

no one takes it

[grizzled aspen]

Fart shark doesn't want to take the time to balance annoying finesse weapons.

[light badge]

why the fuck did this build work, but a bubble didn't

[fleet zealot]

true

[twin wagon]

Shockmaul/crusher

[light badge]

I am absolutely baffled

(Havoc 24 btw)

[fleet zealot]

crusher never does

[grizzled aspen]

That's why knife, ds, and force swords all have it.

[fleet zealot]

it has great adms already

[lean lark]

brainburst hard carried

trust me

[twin wagon]

Slaughterer cope

[fleet zealot]

smaul, idk I haven't tested it enough

[twin wagon]

Smaul has no other good blessings

[light badge]

literally how

[grizzled aspen]

No, you never take opportunist, ever.

[twin wagon]

Smaul

[grizzled aspen]

Opportunist is fucking terrible.

[light badge]

it was proc'ing just as much on the bubble

[lean lark]

picking off snipers/bombers/lowhp gunners is clutch

[grizzled aspen]

Shock maul already has great adms.

You aren't getting any value with opportunist.

[twin wagon]

and? What are u gonna take, more damage off electricity?

[lean lark]

are you running your personal assignments?

[twin wagon]

[grizzled aspen]

Also, the enemies that you might need that rending on don't stagger easy, so shock maul can't even get value on them.

[twin wagon]

We are back to the Paul dilema

[light badge]

nar, just playing whatever's the highest on the party finder

[grizzled aspen]

Skullcrusher + high voltage is BIS.

[toxic dock]

crusher is just skull slaughterer right?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[twin wagon]

High voltage barely matters

Or it's flat out buggy after last patch

[grizzled aspen]

You don't know what you're talking about and it shows.

[lean lark]

eu pfinder pretty good

[twin wagon]

Scoreboard shows 0 electrity damage

[fleet zealot]

high voltage

[grizzled aspen]

I have decided to be an elitist and be hateful.

[toxic dock]

im a time traveler i come from a land where crusher only has 4 blessings and 3 of them are impact

[gleaming furnace]

Lmao pee finder

[fleet zealot]

that's not what high voltage does

[grizzled aspen]

If you are wrong I will mock you for being wrong and annoying.

[fleet zealot]

lol

[grand tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry-devil-may-cry5-hello-hello-based-department-gif-26042779

[fleet zealot]

if you stagger an enemy with smaul, you apply a 0 dmg electrocute debuff, and then you get high voltage damage blessing

the special action applies a damaging electrocute debuff that also meets the high voltage requirements

[twin wagon]

High voltage increase damage to electrified enemies, which is 0

[toxic dock]

i tried smaul for like 3 games and conluded its ass

[fleet zealot]

yes

[gleaming furnace]

Rly ? I thought the purpose of it was to spam my feed with scoreboard error messages

[fleet zealot]

on your swings

[grizzled aspen]

Classic "zealout chatter does not know what he's talking about and is getting clowned on" moment.

[fleet zealot]

your direct impact

[clear mortar]

Welcome to the BasedClub

[fleet zealot]

it's not ass it's just mid

[gleaming furnace]

No it’s ass

[fleet zealot]

it's completely viable before havocs

[grizzled aspen]

Its base damage is far too low to consider running on zealout, especially when we have crusher for the ideal crowd control tool.

It is ass for zealout.

[twin wagon]

So you are advocating for a situational barely used special vs barely any damage increase due to rending

[fleet zealot]

the blessing that got wrecked was lightning reflexes

[fleet zealot]

what

[twin wagon]

Truly you are worse than a Kerillian

[fleet zealot]

are you fucking stupid?

[grizzled aspen]

You do know your heavy attacks electrocute, right?

[twin wagon]

Then how does it show 0

[fleet zealot]

because it's buffing your swings

[grizzled aspen]

Because scoreboard is fucking dumb.

[fleet zealot]

not your electrocute debuff

[toxic dock]

why not just use like one of the normal swords with like the same swing pattern and better kill power that either have elite staggering specials or parries?

[fleet zealot]

lol

[clear mortar]

Sounds like a praise to me

[clear mortar]

Lowest Score haver talk

[toxic dock]

what does the debuff even do?

[twin wagon]

So we have no way of testing if it actually does anything

[twin wagon]

Fuckall

[toxic dock]

seemed that way

[fleet zealot]

enables the high voltage blessing

[grizzled aspen]

Actually I top score in my pubs. (this is an extremely low bar to jump over because pubbers have room digit iq)

[fleet zealot]

which increases your swing damage by 25%

[twin wagon]

allegedly

[fleet zealot]

Allegedly bro it's how it has always worked

[gleaming furnace]

While I concur with your sentiment your name is gross and heretical

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway the point here is that electricity doesn't do damage.

It is a 0 damage debuff.

[clear mortar]

Can't argue with primordial Truth

[clear mortar]

Who asked

[fleet zealot]

it's fatshark special so i'll explain it as simply as possible

[grizzled aspen]

This debuff allows high voltage to deal more damage; high voltage does not increase electricity damage.

[twin wagon]

Nah I'll leave and come back in 10 minutes with my next steam inspired take to waste time till I can finally head home.

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-after-careful-consideration-i-have-come-to-the-conclusion-that-your-opinion-sucks-gif-25893576

[grizzled aspen]

So its literally a check of:
"Is this enemy electrocuted?"

yes >deal 25% more damage
no >dont

[fleet zealot]

heavy attacks that stagger an enemy have a chance to apply a 0 damage electrocution debuff for a time period, during this time, all it does is enable high voltage.

[toxic dock]

oh btw what are the stats you want on the relic sword?

[fleet zealot]

dump mobility

cause everything else is important

[toxic dock]

just the classic flak maniac?

[lean lark]

no

elites maniac

[toxic dock]

oh real?

[lean lark]

yeah

[grizzled aspen]

For now, dump mobility, because @remote lark is doing testing later to see the threshold where you can safely dump heat management to.

[fleet zealot]

your special action with shock maul applies an electrocution debuff that deals damage overtime as well, which is confusing

these are both the same debuff in different states

[lean lark]

your special chews flak so its not a problem

[fleet zealot]

smite and electro staff also apply a 0 damage electrocution debuff

[lean lark]

+elites covers it

[grizzled aspen]

Flak elites is best, dawn priest is insane.

[toxic dock]

your stuck at 3 dodges unless you get mobility to 80% right?

[grand tangle]

room digit iq
The rooms in question:

[lean lark]

no

you have 4 dodges at 60%

[fleet zealot]

you are just stuck with 4 regardless

[grizzled aspen]

Bro genuinely believes that immos are better than tknives.

It's funny.

[twin wagon]

Who

[grizzled aspen]

Dawn priest does.

[fleet zealot]

bait priest

[grizzled aspen]

We've had this argument several times.

He has been wrong every single time.

[twin wagon]

Immo are better than shit tier knives tho

[fleet zealot]

infinte resupplying special and elites oneshots before havoc?

[grizzled aspen]

And regularly does horrid takes.

[twin wagon]

Guy this morning said so

[fleet zealot]

only for havoc

[lean lark]

no

[twin wagon]

no

[fleet zealot]

and that's only cause tknives stops hitting breakpoints

[lean lark]

immos are always better than tknives

[grand tangle]

Are immos better than flamer tho?

[twin wagon]

actually snipers remain the same

[hard nexus]

dawn priest got out damaged and out killed by someone using tknives and now is forever salty

[lean lark]

nope

[fleet zealot]

nah, tknives as better pathing and enables shit like flamer, as well as giving you animation cancels

[grizzled aspen]

Like, for example, dawn priest suggested somebody drop inebriates poise on IJ to save a point. If you don't know what that does, it's 3 stacks on dodge instead of 1.

[fleet zealot]

yea i take throwing knives solely for snipers

[lean lark]

you dont need tknives for flamer

[fleet zealot]

and what if sniper is pox hardened?

[grizzled aspen]

So yes, he is insane.

Do not ever listen to this man.

[twin wagon]

You cry

[toxic dock]

i take kinves because it means i get twbs easier

[lean lark]

weird projecting but go off bro

[fleet zealot]

also that

[twin wagon]

Knives has better pathing

[fleet zealot]

tknives pathing is insane

[grand tangle]

This is a blatant and obvious lie

[fleet zealot]

very good

[twin wagon]

But Immo has the best ability in the game

[fleet zealot]

you don't need it for havoc but that's just multiple factors

[twin wagon]

Afk farming

[fleet zealot]

you basically have to have your team covering your ranged game

[lean lark]

800 hours of thammer flamer immolation nades says otherwise

[twin wagon]

Priest which thammer were you using

[fleet zealot]

marginally mechanically skilled player egos out in discord, more at 11

[lean lark]

crucis

[twin wagon]

[lean lark]

the good player... gives good takes? i cant believe it.

[hard nexus]

gives dogshit takes

lmfao

[twin wagon]

I hope your every hit doesn't register

[fleet zealot]

throwing knives suck vs pox hardened and lose a lot of breakpoints in general as you climb up, meanwhile immo nade basically only gains value as there is more enemies baking in your fire

[fleet zealot]

ok tanner jr

[twin wagon]

Rookie numbers youngling

[clear mortar]

i give shit takes even if i am the most competent person in the room

[grand tangle]

my big numbers are in other games

[lean lark]

😨

[grand tangle]

i fell for the moba trap

[twin wagon]

Goalpost moving

[grand tangle]

dont play mobas btw

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[clear mortar]

I love Tanner just for the fact how he triggers people

gonna rename myself BigTittyTanner as Religion

[fleet zealot]

says something stupid and people correct him "omg look at all these people getting triggered"

[clear mortar]

😏

literally me

[twin wagon]

I hope you hop in vr chat

[grand tangle]

your name is triggering enough tbh

[light badge]

score numbers generated by the scoreboard are entirely arbitrary

and therefore useless

[merry flume]

wait can psyker use shock maul

[twin wagon]

How

[light badge]

yuppers

[twin wagon]

It works with electrical debuff

[merry flume]

shock maul on psyker would be OP why doesn't anyone use it

[clear mortar]

good, good, thanks for the feedback

[merry flume]

scriers shock maul 😩

[twin wagon]

Dogshit compared to Illsi

Or greatsword

[clear mortar]

Lowest Score haver talk

[twin wagon]

or the recently revamped onscurus

[toxic dock]

scries can make any weapon good

[twin wagon]

or deimos

Or lord chaxe

[clear mortar]

true

[merry flume]

that's the best part

[light badge]

this is really weak bait

[toxic dock]

is chain axe good now did they fix?

[twin wagon]

It's always been good

[clear mortar]

are you challenging me or something

[toxic dock]

ok does it have more usable moves than push stab?

[woeful pecan]

How's this for a high havoc DS4/flamer build? In this case, the other zealot already had Beacon

[twin wagon]

Lightspam

[toxic dock]

do lights still get stuck in elites?

[twin wagon]

and og mark has it's heavies

[clear mortar]

i have a feeling, that stun grenades are more useful, but take that with grain of salt

[twin wagon]

Og one gets stuck on everyone light wise, but heavy smooth
New one gets stuck on heavies but smokth lights

Both are better than the dogshit ds meta is

[woeful pecan]

Knives would be more useful, but I suck with them

[toxic dock]

ds is quite braindead

[clear mortar]

Knives are very subjective exactly because of that reason

[woeful pecan]

If I could get consistent headshots, I'd take them every time. But I end up just hitting shoulders and walls

[clear mortar]

They are the best, but if you aren't a Green Arrow's son - don't bother

[grand tangle]

Og lightspam can work now actually, at least vs smaller groups of enemies. A headshot kills everything but ragers. Feels fine to use the light attacks now, at least to me. I would actually prefer the og over the new one if the heavies were a bit more horizontal

[light badge]

no, just that scoreboard scores are objectively a useless statistic

[stone fern]

fps issue still not fixed btw

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-point-pointing-going-inside-gif-25709356

[clear mortar]

goated nickname

[hushed knoll]

Hello Claddington Boots ™️

[stone fern]

hi

[toxic dock]

its always mk4 ds right? the others all have fuck ass heavies

[woeful pecan]

Is The Master's Retribution (knockback on being hit) even remotely useful? It seems pretty eh.

[light badge]

ds4 is the funny one, yes

though with uncanny and such, 2 and 5 really aren't bad

[twin wagon]

Overkill damage is the most important stat, after damage on a scoreboard

It's the most important metric for all builds

Saying it's useless is mayor cap

[light badge]

especially since mk5 has stupid dodges

[light badge]

let me clarify, I don't mean the numbers on scoreboards

[toxic dock]

ok but thats just putting uncanny on stick and giving it double damage

[light badge]

I mean the "scores" that the default scoreboard generates

[lament blaze]

The calculated weighted scores based on.. things

[twin wagon]

Probably, because they were made by a malice main

[light badge]

that tracks

sub 200k damage
1k+ damage taken
highest support score tho, I carried

[misty ravine]

Highest Plasteel and Diamantine pickup rate, absolute team carrier on the macro/econ scale

[toxic dock]

^ real

[light badge]

extreme true

[lament blaze]

Or they staggered 100000 trash

[twin wagon]

Blocked 32 hits

Ok, clearly carried

[toxic dock]

the real caries get that orange overkill damage

[gleaming furnace]

Most environmental kills

[hushed knoll]

Are you having a good day

[toxic dock]

if its not over half of your total what are you doing?

[stone fern]

not particularly no

[light badge]

WE FUCKING LOVE BARRELS 🗣️ 🔥

[hushed knoll]

:(

I’m sorry clad

[lament blaze]

My overkill damage is always really high 😭

[violet hornet]

Me charging thammer special to hit single bruisers

[toxic dock]

true

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[woeful pecan]

Thought so. I accidentally took it instead of CDR on crit when I was rushing to make a build. D:

We still won, but I was so confused why my book cooldown was taking so long

[opaque island]

im still not sure exactly what overkill damage is measuring

[rocky nacelle]

do you fancy yourself a relic blade enjoyer @grizzled aspen

check the other chat and answer my question if the answer is yes

[misty ravine]

Real. Each capstone has one like that lmao

[lament blaze]

I assume it's damage that goes over the enemy's hp

[hushed knoll]

@stone fern I hope things improve

[stone fern]

thanks

[opaque island]

thats what i thought too, but someone was arguing with me once that it has something to do with cleave and hitting multiple targets

[twin wagon]

Cleave is an irrelevant

stat

[violet hornet]

NGL I thought people here were saying that the numbers, rather than scores, on scoreboard are unreliable

[toxic dock]

sometimes cleave kinda nice

[placid fiber]

Cole's ego

[violet hornet]

Took like one glance at the first game's scoreboard to know the actual scores for categories mean nothing

[twin wagon]

Overkill measures inefficient tool usage

Like hitting a pox walker with thammer charge

[placid fiber]

or when u bring a damnation ready build into anything below damnation

[opaque island]

couldnt be me

[violet hornet]

Eh I get high overkill from sliding into a heavy for a single enemy if I'm consistently landing headshots, it'd take longer to light strike those enemies down for less overkill

Or intentionally body shot which makes my skin crawl

[clear mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935989994735169546/1316102365366980779/actuallyyou.mov?ex=6759d357&is=675881d7&hm=dd561648f882ca138b40d97a4f935bab217024119425130efa1b9273e2bb0c17&

Hereby and henceforth i declare this channel a meme channel

[violet hornet]

Always has been

[placid fiber]

Yeah

You're late to the party lol

[clear mortar]

no, it's just a party started too early

[placid fiber]

Memes with a side of zealot

[placid fiber]

Yep... back in 2022 lol

[placid fiber]

Okay... now where are the smykers that u gotta kill?

[light badge]

idk I'm just posting random things in my clip folder

[lament blaze]

Yeah idk how much overkill I get just from killing trash with a BM Rashad to the dome

[placid fiber]

Also: I love that you're mario 64'ing that mf

[light badge]

why the fuck did I clip this lmao

[lament blaze]

I hope that's a major contributor to my outrageous overkill damage count

[lean lark]

ohhhhh lord have mercy

[light badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1313236450233552957/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[placid fiber]

Wow... Melk thought u were tanner lol

[lean lark]

its ds4 dont worry it'll be overpowered anyways

[lean lark]

i dont use dueling swords

[opaque island]

fan ragdoll

[placid fiber]

How some people tell us they're an oggy main without telling us they're an oggy main

[placid fiber]

ngl... that was me on my Vet one time... now I wait until my team moves through safely or until it fully stops lol

I either didn't know about the fan killing people, or had forgotten that time... I have not forgotten since that incident <.<

[light badge]

holy fucking instant karma lmao

[rocky nacelle]

this hurts to watch

[opaque island]

only took you 15 rockets :^)

[placid fiber]

You literally showed everyone my level of aim, lol

[light badge]

I'm like 80% sure I was drunk lol

[placid fiber]

Also: Yeah, insta karma lol

[rocky nacelle]

even then

[violet hornet]

I was about to ask frog this and found this comment in the process

[rocky nacelle]

my under the influence tf2 gameplay is like

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-tf2-soldier-jumpscare-tf2-soldier-jumpscare-gif-25554720

[opaque island]

"sparkles like new"

[violet hornet]

The juxtaposition of otherwise perfect spelling and grammar with the blatant misspelling of the class name is bizarre

[opaque island]

I think its to signify which build their using so like zealout is a shout zealot?

[rocky nacelle]

you're a zell out

🚬

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jfL61l3Oz96Oxb-k0?invite=cr-MSxDN0ssMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[light badge]

death

[sullen forge]

@light badge

Me and Vic’s experience last night

Oh also this

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jfLe0nun4Ajyt4juN?invite=cr-MSxoREQsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[light badge]

what difficulty is this lmao

[sullen forge]

AuDamn HISTG

[light badge]

ain't no way

bruh

[sullen forge]

They were trying to THROW HIS BIRTHDAY

[light badge]

jumping off of highground into the pack of crushers is just

wow

[placid fiber]

well it has to be heresy or damnations cuz they're guy only has 2 wounds <.<

[grizzled aspen]

What comment specifically? I can't exactly check my phone whenever I want rn.

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-streamer-content-creator-stressing-gif-6272246570529865701

[plucky gate]

i do that all the time

[opaque island]

do yall agree you should at least have 1 wound curio? or is 2 wounds enough

[plucky gate]

jump or you're a coward

[placid fiber]

And: this is the moment both of you went down lol

[rocky nacelle]

how are you building your relic blade/talents

[rocky nacelle]

in relation to what

[hard nexus]

that’s something i’d do tbh

[sullen forge]

Me and Vic never going down that match 💪

[placid fiber]

I always go in with 0 wound curios, unless I'm playing marty lol

[stone fern]

i wanted to inject them 😭

[sullen forge]

I’ve rubberbanded into like

[plucky gate]

I will refer back to this story

[sullen forge]

3 crusher overheads

[placid fiber]

😏

[red swift]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da5eb01-a862-467b-9fc8-d806eb3039b7/relic-sword-bis-havoc Can swap Rampage with Wrath, and Corruption Resist if you have beacon

[light badge]

A true Martyr

[stone fern]

mfw fatshark put beacon of purity on top of marty

[rocky nacelle]

surely the build advertised as BiS

is BiS right (and not personal confirmation)

[plucky gate]

he could save others but not himself...

[red swift]

its to get clicks dont overthink it xdd

[placid fiber]

Yeah, when you bring wounds when someone has the middle zealot aura you're nerfing its effect on you

[rocky nacelle]

smh

click baiter

[rocky nacelle]

disappointed in you pilgrim

[light badge]

Is Martyrdom just complete ass in Havoc btw? On account of melee units having innate corruption damage

[lean lark]

no

its ok

[red swift]

the empror sees my upvotes

[violet hornet]

Belongs in shitter

[hard nexus]

i haven’t taken a wound curio in forever

[grizzled aspen]

Standard stalwart piety build, sword has flak elites cranial wrath, mob dump. I do not attempt to take it into havocs.

[lunar fable]

i think the last time i used one it was when i was new to damn

[sullen forge]

Okay so the modifiers punish you for big ways people play

[rocky nacelle]

I wonder what people think about this then

[placid fiber]

Sadly oggy always gets it nerfed for it, compared to no wounds on the other 3 classes lol

[rocky nacelle]

probably going flak/unyld

[sullen forge]

Blight punishes for people playing too aggressively, pus completely counters ranged only, and cranial counters suppression abusers

[hard nexus]

disdain

[sullen forge]

In lamens

[hard nexus]

:(

[sullen forge]

Adapt

[fleet zealot]

wrath is pretty much only useful in havocs tho

[grizzled aspen]

Energy leakage is not the play.

[fleet zealot]

otherwise, you'll be fine with rampage

or even heatsink

[grizzled aspen]

Base uncharged cleave is not ideal.

[red swift]

That's cool, I like the disdain pickup. But Thy Wrath isn't as needed because gunners don't knockback, so I prio IoD because it's broke

[grizzled aspen]

And I'm killing everything anyway.

[fleet zealot]

then play for charge time with heatsink

[rocky nacelle]

I got it because I didnt wanna get smacked outta combos

[red swift]

and I like Cara for high havoc since they're everywhere

[rocky nacelle]

or special activating

(but special activating has block frames so)

[fleet zealot]

special activating is blocking

[grizzled aspen]

No, I take wrath only to cleave entire hordes while uncharged.

[hard nexus]

block broken out of activate :(

[grizzled aspen]

Because uncharged actually does damage, unlike vet psword.

[rocky nacelle]

also I can understand this

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[rocky nacelle]

but no piety with IoD

is just gross

[spare dome]

yea you really only need the active for elites

[rocky nacelle]

and your only reliable source of scourging is Chastising into a crowd

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX0yw31JKlA

[red swift]

nah man trust me, you get a ton more charge procs with IoD even with IJ

[rocky nacelle]

im saying I dont want to chastise into a horde to proc scourge/IoD

just gross

[red swift]

Also I alwasy go cranial, if you can upkeep stacks on it it's the most value of any blessing I'd say

[sullen forge]

Don’t let them know about uncharged or else people will call you a sympathizer

[nocturne harness]

You only need about a 30% crit chance to max out IOD

[sullen forge]

We need only PS nerfs

[hard nexus]

dclaw makes it work, and a couple other weapons, but relic blade’s issue with IoD is it’s just too good at killing hordes, so you kill everything before you can really stack scourge

[sullen forge]

Nothing else

[rocky nacelle]

yeah no matter how you flip it cranial is OP

cause weakspot dmg is weakspot dmg

[nocturne harness]

you can get there with a +5% crit blessing and scourge

[red swift]

and upkeeps heat more than heatsink which is great

[rocky nacelle]

ima try energy leak and ramp in a bit

gonna strength abuse

[sullen forge]

Now use it in Havoc 30+

[hard nexus]

ouuuugghh i’m leaking my energy

[sullen forge]

(The joke is you get kicked immediately if you do)

[placid fiber]

[hard nexus]

dclaw?

[sullen forge]

Yes

[misty ravine]

Not at my PC, does Cranial Grounding fall off if you miss a headshot?

[sullen forge]

Use it in 30 or 40

[hard nexus]

i need to bring mk3 evis into havoc 30

[hard nexus]

no

just a timer

[rocky nacelle]

duh

not to mention if you empower it

[opal star]

I think with how the relic blade's swings are, TWBS can still be a solid contender

cuz they are.. uh

fairly slow if you're not running marty

[hard nexus]

i thought u were saying that as a more general statement

[opal star]

n' all

[rocky nacelle]

I was not

[sullen forge]

Got a strong feeling it’ll fall off

[hard nexus]

especially yeah

[sullen forge]

From hitmass

[rocky nacelle]

cause ive done IoD and IJ before

[sullen forge]

Like you’ll struggle to proc savage

[rocky nacelle]

but forcing IoD on IJ relic blade

no

[opal star]

wait disdain is the +impact/super armor node right

[red swift]

I hate that it costs two points, and the main reason I personally took it was because gunner knockback physcially hurt me.

[rocky nacelle]

cant agree

[light badge]

It has dogshit flak damage right?

[misty ravine]

Yeah Cranial is best heat blessing then, no contest (and it provides another benefit on top of it)

[opal star]

lmao true

[sullen forge]

Yea dog shit anything armored

[light badge]

If any weapon deserves uncanny it should be the d-claws

[placid fiber]

Just take a 60% damage relic blade, smh my head

[red swift]

Try it in a game brah, be charge happy

[hard nexus]

unironically shred PS would have pretty solid horde management, horde clear would be slow though, i wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of horde clear from mk3 evis came from scourge stacks lmfao

[rocky nacelle]

i understand the point of the IoD pickup

but im not really interested in it without Piety

(on relic blade specifically)

[opal star]

relic blade getting a gorillion crits w/ blazing piety

[spare dome]

FotF with IoD = at least 12 seconds off the cooldown

[hard nexus]

no, disdain is 20% damage on ur next attack depending on enemies hit, but it’s bad because it only works by

attack to build stacks, attack to expend stacks,

it cannot stack itself

[spare dome]

Unless you just don't swing.

[opal star]

oh, the other left-tree disappointment

[sullen forge]

Yeah idk Lumii and Frog said I was kinda special in the head for thinking that

[spare dome]

Even if you aren't critmaxxing you should want IoD

[placid fiber]

8 seconds* since it takes 4 to get 12s of cd off

[hard nexus]

thanks pookie

lmfao

[hard nexus]

thinking what

it’d fall off?

or it wouldn’t be awful

[rocky nacelle]

here

[sullen forge]

Shred Perfect would make it viable on 30+

[hard nexus]

oh

[rocky nacelle]

here's some testing i did

[hard nexus]

yah