zealot-class

[misty mason]

Oh an attack is incoming? As a mage I will need 3 business days to move out of the way

[hard nexus]

woah…

[stable cypress]

no I actually like that

if everything is just Dodge Roll its every other fucking modern action rpg

[misty mason]

Mmm I guess

[frozen kernel]

The thief is fucking OP as shit

[misty mason]

It did make me change my main pawn to a tank

[frozen kernel]

Because you unlock auto dodge like 12 hours in

[misty mason]

Cause I kept getting wombod

[frozen kernel]

Thief also gets a dodge roll

[stable cypress]

helm splitter is also comical dmg

[frozen kernel]

As it was in the first game

Fuck ranger though, ranger still needs to carry arrows

[misty mason]

Man the first was great

[frozen kernel]

The first was so much better

[misty mason]

NG+ was and the DLC were fucken brutal tho

[stable cypress]

idk I still ike both. I just wish dd2 got its own DA equivalent

[frozen kernel]

All the sequel had to do was do the exact same shit but with prettier graphics on a modern engine

And they fucked it

[stable cypress]

oh well budget gotta go to the monhun machine

[misty mason]

wdym

[frozen kernel]

Monhun will save us, as it always does

[stable cypress]

nah I'm burned out on monhun lmao rip

[frozen kernel]

Best part of the first dragons dogma was the dark arisen expansion

[misty mason]

Ohhh dark arisen

[frozen kernel]

Added proper endgame

[misty mason]

I read that as dragon age

[stable cypress]

oh no

[frozen kernel]

Haha yeah, it’s like AC6

[misty mason]

Man I got my shit pushed in in dark arisen

[frozen kernel]

Armored Core 6? Ace Combat 6

[misty mason]

I tried it and didnt make it past like the first area

[frozen kernel]

You’re not supposed to go there until laterish, so that tracks lol

[slate haven]

Had to put my rabbit down, will this affect the zealot meta?

[misty mason]

I wasnt sure if it was meant for people who cleared NG+ already or something

[remote gyro]

tbf similar concept

[frozen kernel]

Can go early and get some swag gear early if you know your way around

[misty mason]

Yeah I think I had like full dragon forged equipment

[frozen kernel]

That was neat

[misty mason]

Or whatever its called

When you kill a dragon and get your equipment upgraded

[frozen kernel]

Ye

Everfall was dope

Big ass hole in the city with a bunch of mini dungeons and bosses

All creatures that DD2 forgot

[misty mason]

I do enjoy Monster Hunter

But like

[jade juniper]

whats the bolt pistol dump stat again?

[misty mason]

I never got into the post game content

[plush estuary]

collat

[frozen kernel]

I normally burn out of game because my jobless friends tend to blitz through shit while I work for a living

[misty mason]

I just want to fight yian kutkus and wear outrageously pink armour

[frozen kernel]

MH games just don’t burn me out. I enjoy just playing with random online people and goofing around

I’ve played so much more MH with randos responding to SOS hunts than with my guys

And who plays the most…it shows in our bow player

Who plays the least

[unreal sedge]

In the pinned comment it reccomends taking wrath with the relic blade due to hitmass issues. Are those likely to be fixed soon or is it worth replacing for the time being?

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/rolled-ice-cream-sweet-cold-scrape-gif-14205732

Me scraping the last of my buddy off the floor

[misty mason]

oofers

[fleet zealot]

damn

now i want rolled icecream

[misty mason]

Imagine not using greatsword

[frozen kernel]

MY OTHER BUDDY DOES

[lunar fable]

i play ig

[frozen kernel]

HE’S A UNIT

[lunar fable]

🚁

[fleet zealot]

the issue isn't a bug, it's that havoc hitmass skyrockets

[frozen kernel]

They’re fixing it in the next beta test

Get hype

[lunar fable]

oh?

[light badge]

I hope you're doing okay ❤️

[fleet zealot]

as one of the hidden modifiers

[lunar fable]

how so

[frozen kernel]

You know how everyone was saying the controls in Wilds were hot wank, and we had an over-reliance on popping the wounds?

[lunar fable]

yea

[frozen kernel]

They’ve said the weapon is receiving some of the largest changes based on feedback

Along with like SnS, Swax, and I think CB

[remote gyro]

charge blade is getting changes? what kind?

[frozen kernel]

So that’s wishful

No idea

Prolly not gonna be as dependent on pizza cutter I’d imagine

[remote gyro]

lot less dependent than it was in rise

[frozen kernel]

Because if you didn’t get the transform from the wound pops, you really didn’t do much

[fleet zealot]

so deep havoc, horde will be denser than damnation bruisers, bruisers are denser than damnation ragers etc etc

[frozen kernel]

Yeah thankfully

Oh wait maybe not CB

I think it was lance

Because the new triple poke pissed all 14 lance gamers off and I respect them for listening

Thank god horn is back to normal

[misty mason]

I always wondered if I should play the big hammer

For max ungabunga

[frozen kernel]

Rise horn was fucking awful

Hammer is güd

[misty mason]

But Greatsword can chop off bits

So it gets the tick

[frozen kernel]

Bug stick does errything for me

Decent chance to stun, can cut tails, has a jump button

I must ascend

[misty mason]

But

When you hit something

Can you go

WHAM BAM

WELCOME TO THE JAM

[unreal sedge]

how does blazing piety compare to inexorable judgement for a relic blade build?

[frozen kernel]

https://youtu.be/ZXdqyHVBjCo

[misty mason]

I think it affects what talents you take

sorry blessings

If you run piety then you take the dual heat reduction blessings

IJ, I think its cranial grounding and rampage

[frozen kernel]

I’ve been running IJ with cranial and heat sink lmao

Should try rampage but I love just fully cooling the thing in two swings

[misty mason]

Yeah I mean those are the recommendations from Meow from like day 2 of relic blade

So I wouldn't take them as 100% accurate

But seems like most people agree its the way to go

[frozen kernel]

As with most things, so long as you’re not total shit most things are in a “viable” spot rn

[fleet zealot]

hrup been going rampage leakage

[burnt bobcat]

is wrath still better for havoc

[misty mason]

Yeah

I still run thammer with piety

[fleet zealot]

wrath for gas or 21st missions

otherwise you can go double strength and be fine (rampage gives strength not damage)

gas and 21st make the hitmass issue basically unavoidable

yea I will say, force greatsword probably has the greatest variety of viable blessings

[frozen kernel]

cries in accidentally QPing gas missions

[burnt bobcat]

idk what the current force gs meta is lol i just went with the pin, flak elite cran wrath (doing havocs)

[fleet zealot]

you basically can't go wrong besides attack speed on perfect block

avoid counterattack, devasting strike, overload, syphon, and energy transfer

[misty mason]

You basically cant go wrong except for 80% of the options lol

[unreal sedge]

How is this for a havoc relic blade build?

[misty mason]

Id take the top two middle points and push them to the right

[unreal sedge]

for the extra attack speed?

[misty mason]

For the crit bleed

Since youre running piety

[next jacinth]

guys is the bracevd autogun any good for this class

[unreal sedge]

Its good, recon is goated

[misty mason]

recon isnt very good for zealot

brauto is v good tho

[unreal sedge]

why not?

[misty mason]

We just have better options

Its not awful

But I wouldn't recommend it

[unreal sedge]

I like it cause it's great with ammo and shreds most things, very good with the small gun guys up to the ogryns with guns

[misty mason]

Yeah Id just prefer something like an IAG if thats the niche I wanted to fill

[vague depot]

Probably take left side piety instead of right

[unreal sedge]

that burns bullets to quick for me, I like to spray and pray, IAG kills great but doesnt have enough in the mag

[vague depot]

There’s enough bodies to keep piety always up you don’t need crits to count as well

[misty mason]

isnt the bottom right node the extra 10% crit chance?

[unreal sedge]

yer

[grizzled aspen]

I would switch to left side piety for tdr, drop purge and anoint for scourge and enduring faith, and drop blood redemption for a 2nd charge of fotf. Alternatively, you could swap to chorus (likely the better option).

[misty mason]

I can finally go home and Dark some tides

[grizzled aspen]

No sustained assault is gonna hurt but really you aren't going to be dps anyway.

[misty mason]

I do wonder if a dual cdr build could ever be viable

[grizzled aspen]

It won't be.

We suffer too many point taxes to pull it off.

[misty mason]

You could spam the ever loving shit out of chorus tho

But yeah

[buoyant pewter]

I’ve grown to love the bolter in a way I did not expect

It’s literally good at everything

[misty mason]

Bolter gud

Except reloading

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah

[misty mason]

And drawing

[buoyant pewter]

True

The draw is slow but honestly fair cost for wielded godhood

[misty mason]

I imagine you can knife trick the draw tho

Using an ex stance bolter build during the tentacle head event ruled

Bon bon deletion service

[buoyant pewter]

If I’m using mk2 thammer, what perks and blessings?

[misty mason]

Crucis?

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah

[misty mason]

Unyielding carapace, thrust slaughter

[buoyant pewter]

🫡 thanks

[misty mason]

Carapace is the only really negotiable one

But its what I run and its my main build

[sterile stone]

@spare talon

Done and dusted

[misty mason]

Gratz

[sterile stone]

God damn this map threw everything and the kitchen sink at us

[misty mason]

Good thing you had the chairman of the ccp to carry you

[sterile stone]

Winnie the Pooh did good

We had to play that shit near perfect

Constant snipers and doubled up patrols of shotgunners

Thank god for overtoughness cause I ate 2 overheads that shoulda ended me

[placid fiber]

I told my team about my gunlugger build's monster melting capabilities... so when I melted the daemonhost one of them went "HOLY SHIT" lol

[heady frost]

knife - does this blessing mean my punch deals extra damage or my hit AFTER a punch?

[obsidian prairie]

I have no idea and wouldn't take it anyway

[placid fiber]

but imagine memes of riposte AND smackdown...

[heady frost]

planning my knife to be an "oh shit oh god oh fuck" moment so I can dodge away or stab a mutant/rager/crusher thats just in my face

[placid fiber]

that would be the new lacerate flesh tearer kinda thing lol

[heady frost]

oh shit its zealot chat

but point still stands

i got uncanny and then what, precognition right?

[obsidian prairie]

Uncanny/riposte + Precog

[placid fiber]

I said "memes" for a reason lol

[heady frost]

cheers boss

[grizzled aspen]

You don't necessarily need uncanny, because zealout can just brute force damage on armor.

[heady frost]

yea i mistook chats meant to be asked in psyker chat

[grizzled aspen]

Oh...

Yeah, you'll want uncanny on psyker.

[heady frost]

so kinda need to brute force these "oh god" moments i suppose

[grizzled aspen]

I would do riposte over precog.

[heady frost]

more consistent?

overall

[grizzled aspen]

Well, that, and empathetic evasion is peak.

Crits consider you immune to ranged attacks for 1s.

[heady frost]

ohhhhhhh shit youre right

[grizzled aspen]

More crits = less shooters eating you.

[heady frost]

good synergy right there

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/david-hasselhoff-kungfu-fight-fierce-comegetme-gif-4065338

WE NEED SOME ACTION

[grizzled aspen]

However.

[unreal sedge]

Hows this, sorry was afk

[grizzled aspen]

If you are running scrier's gaze, you might want to take precog.

[heady frost]

noo just trauma

with bubble

[grizzled aspen]

Drop faithful frenzy for second wind.

Or good balance.

Actually yeah youre using relic blade, drop good balance for second wind.

You need the attack speed.

[heady frost]

ty boss anyway, this isnt psyker chat so im out

[grizzled aspen]

Psyker chat numbs my brain so I don't go there.

Enjoy yourself, freak.

[heady frost]

you too! ❤️

[unreal sedge]

Is it worth taking the points from faithful frenzy and second wind for sustained assault or nah

[grizzled aspen]

Absolutely not.

In havoc, high survivability is key.

You need the attack speed because relic blade is a slow weapon and you need to keep crit cdr going for chorus maintenance.

You need second wind so you dont fall apart.

[unreal sedge]

🙏

[grizzled aspen]

Sustained assault is nice to have but you do not have the points to grab it for an optimized havoc setup.

This just further proves that fatshark cant balance this fucking tree without proper zealout players giving them advice.

:(

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-cute-happy-spinning-animal-gif-11491379045451494160

i'm not pathing to 2nd wind i need my immo nades

throwing knives too stinky

[unreal sedge]

could be worse, look at the ogryn tree

[fleet zealot]

i'm taking stalwart piety

[grizzled aspen]

Middle tree nodes are bad, chorus has a mandatory tax, top left nodes are just shit outside of ewew...

[fleet zealot]

at least ogryn doesn't have to change their tree drastically for havoc unless they are gluggers

[grizzled aspen]

Glugger isn't even viable lmao.

Ammo econ shits itself in higher havocs.

You will have no bullets.

[fleet zealot]

yea

hence

they have to change their talents drastically

and either play karsolas or shield

[grizzled aspen]

Oh, and if for whatever reason Dorn gets unbanned and returns, dont bother arguing havocs difficulty.

"Ammo economy is good," he says, as he eats every bullet in sight and doesnt share.

[royal vortex]

everyone but me has to play staff psyker or kick

[unreal sedge]

the primarch?

[grizzled aspen]

I argued with him earlier today about pus hardened being an overtuned modifier that completely disables vets kit and he fucking muted me in his server for it.

Was kind of hilarious.

[fleet zealot]

tbf it's, not as bad as the debuff feels it should

[royal vortex]

zealot chatters are very low on the list of people i would give mod powers to

[fleet zealot]

especially if you have a team minding their ammo properly and a survivalist

[grizzled aspen]

My argument was that I watched Gale shoot a sniper 5 times in the face with an agri VA and the sniper still didn't die.

[fleet zealot]

imo it just proves that the base game ammo is overtuned

cause people in normals don't want to control their ammo consumption

they just wanna magdump hordes

[grizzled aspen]

We came to the conclusion that pus hardened should not apply to headshots or needs to be retuned to be less of a detriment.

[stable cypress]

I HAVE to shoot those 2 bruisers in front of the karsogryn

[grizzled aspen]

That's the thing, we don't mag dump hordes. We have to be very sparing with our ammo.

Like very, very sparing.

Boltgun cannot be used in any fashion like it would be in aurics.

[violet hornet]

Until I see the burgle

[grizzled aspen]

You do not bother drawing it unless a giant horde of carapace is approaching.

No, not even then.

Do not waste ammo on bosses.

[violet hornet]

Nah I did, even on a 40

[grizzled aspen]

Not a single bullet should be shot at them in havocs, ever.

[violet hornet]

I saved mine just got that

[grizzled aspen]

In fact, bubble psyker should prioritize keeping it in gay baby jail.

For a burgle, I mean.

[violet hornet]

Not always practical on high havoc

[grizzled aspen]

You would think that!

Warp charges disagree.

[violet hornet]

Especially with the horde and cap

[grizzled aspen]

Me when I have a 15s bubble cooldown:

(my first one will still be up when this one gets ready)

Even less with psyk aura.

[violet hornet]

Ty for reminding me to clip my first havoc 40 clear from yesterday lol

At the end of the carnival finale I was the one that ran around and killed the shooters in the arena since I was the only one left with ammo

[buoyant pewter]

Damn

Thunder hammer feels WAY better than it used to

[placid fiber]

Well... this heresy run was less of a hard carry than the one I shared earlier... only I got trapped and downed before someone got to me the one time I got trapped x.x

still that psyker took 2.1k damage lol

[buoyant pewter]

I just played with a guy who full died three times and then proceeded to say “lag”

I lag too but I didn’t go down once

It’s impressive quite frankly

[clever swan]

bruh

[placid fiber]

The main times I go down are: ledged, trapped/pounced/throw off ledge/accidentally eating a crusher overhead(or 3 on my oggy) x.x

[buoyant pewter]

I’ll never complain again

[clever swan]

we ended up winning and i ended up getting over 1 million damage as zealot (more than all 3 teammates combined)

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah getting disabled or bad positioning against gunners is really the only time I eat shit

[placid fiber]

Well... according to this I only took 53 damage, and 409 from when I got trapped and downed lol

[buoyant pewter]

I’ve been able to avoid getting disabled pretty well as of late but them gunners still mess me up even on a good day

[placid fiber]

Dude... when ur on oggy on a melee or ranged build(it doesn't matter) this talent does SO much lol

I was curious about it, when I removed lynchpin and towering presence so I started taking it

[buoyant pewter]

Oh yeah pretty much all of those top 10 nodes are must haves

[placid fiber]

and holy fuck, 5% regen does so much lol

[thorn mango]

What perks should I use for a mk2 dueling sword?

[placid fiber]

probably flak + whatever you want dead the most(more specifically unyielding/carapace/elites)

[buoyant pewter]

Booooo one handed weapons

Boooo

[placid fiber]

Yeah... these 2 on a melee build do SO much lol

Especially with the karsolas pickaxe since you heavy spam for horde clear lol

[buoyant pewter]

If my weapon does not require two hands it is not for me

[buoyant pewter]

Oh yeah

Honestly a lot of Ogryn is heavy spam

[placid fiber]

Just play oggy as a zealot who's big and a bit slow... then take the pickaxe. Problem solved. >;3

[placid fiber]

Some weapons are much better for it, as far as horde clear goes. The karsolas pickaxe and the mk5 shovel are 2 good examples since their heavies are cleaving ones

[buoyant pewter]

I was an Ogryn main before I started zealot lol
I just got tired of never getting a melee I liked. I’m picky lol

They added in a new family of stubbers before they added in brass knuckles, THE WEAPON ON THE OGRYN INSIGNIA

[placid fiber]

I've given up on finding a melee weapon on oggy that is "fun" per say... since most are pretty much all slow and feel a bit clunky. I went from brunt's basher to the karsolas pickaxe(and the mk19 shovel on my ranged builds) and those are extremely useful lol

Unless they add something like brass knuckles or hell maybe even a giant stop sign as a new melee we probably aren't gonna get anything that's really... "fun" per say

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah but unfortunately useful and fun are not the same for me, and I require fun in the game I dedicate time to

It’s why I’m now playing zealot, who has a LOT of fun melee weapons

[placid fiber]

I'd use the mk5 shovel on my ranged oggy builds, but, I only have the 20% toughness on 1 enemy hit with a heavy, so I take the mk19 for light spam with confident strike

I'm just 2 points short to get this one... 😦

[misty mason]

I assume tdr is multiplicative yeah?

Cause we can hit over 100%

[placid fiber]

I think in most instances yes

idk about multiple tdr nodes (like 5% ones)

things like the 50% tdr on crit one, 25% when piety is up one, etc are definitely multiplicative

[misty mason]

mkay I was looking at a tdr build and wondered how viable it would be

[placid fiber]

Most zealot crit builds take Enduring Faith

And ones that don't take it(non crit builds) sometimes take this one

[misty mason]

Yeah I was thinking both, with the aura etc

[buoyant pewter]

Combat knife setup?

Plessings

[placid fiber]

lol the dockets shop keeps offering my oggy perfect end stat shovels... this is the 5th or 6th one I've seen tonight so far...

[ionic spear]

zealots

[buoyant pewter]

Mk6

[ionic spear]

best way to get the penance, kill 40 enemies in 10 sec with stun

i cant seem to get it done

[broken walrus]

Go to Orthus Offensive, Malice diff, first time both twins show up, turn around and there will be a horde funneling through a door

[wraith cipher]

bridge of martyrs , stun grenade flamer

[broken walrus]

two stuns and flame thrower got it for me isntantly

[placid fiber]

are not psykers

(I think)

[broken walrus]

Dont zealots believe in the emprah so hard that they get powers?

like zealots arent trained like vets or ogryns right?

[placid fiber]

Zealots are your run of the day average joe... with a nack for violence...

[ionic spear]

theres gotta be at least one

[placid fiber]

with a lot of shouting

now zealot preachers are empowered by something lol

idk what makes em as strong lore-wise as they are(iirc they are like... 1 or 2 power levels higher than a regular zealot)

[wraith cipher]

youre thinking about the nuns with guns

[broken walrus]

I mean, the Zealots we play are on par with trained Vets and Ogryns, but with no training. They are getting juiced somehow

[buoyant pewter]

Cosmetic rotation is this week right?

[placid fiber]

Somebody's been hitting the juice box a few extra times... and I can't put my finger on it, but, it is probably the smyker... I think... >_>'

cuz u know... psykers do all the terrible stuff(more so in the eyes of zealots lol)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[broken walrus]

Smykers stun with lightning, Zealots stun with...faith?

[placid fiber]

No, no... smykers die to anything and everything lol

rando ones anyway lol

a gentle breeze? they die to it

a kiss on the cheek? Deth

waving at em? They blow up

[broken walrus]

I guess I did just see a psyker die to gunners in literally 200ms

[autumn vector]

The biggest thing i wanted with the talent point shuffle was swapping furious and the best defnese

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle forgot to post this yesterday

[thorn mango]

Is a loadout with relic blade and chorus a viable combo in high havoc? I feel like it'd be difficult to work with without any crit rate buffs and invocation.

[obsidian prairie]

Piety is good for havoc anyway

You want as much uptime as possible

[fleet zealot]

i go piety

even without scourge

i'm going immo nades->beacon (or benediction if you already have a beacon bitch)->chorus->stalwart piety

[placid fiber]

Meh... the krourk version of the new stubber just feels like something only for gunlugger memes...

[fleet zealot]

it feels very viable, you'll just need to switch to wrath on your blade vs certain modifiers (gas and 21st) and rely on your teammates to shoot sniper/bomber

cause flamer is also just too good for havoc

but throwing knives fall off in havoc while immos just get more value

[woeful oyster]

Is it a bug that people’s havoc rank doesn’t update as you complete missions, aside of the host? Or is it some bullshit to keep a team from having 4 different options for a mission as they grind levels?

[cold crow]

thunder hammer dump stat?

[north sedge]

Dumb system not bug

[north sedge]

Defense

They get their rank when week is done

[woeful oyster]

If we’re gona go with “dumb system” then I’d say it’s just some bullshit to keep a team from having 4 different missions to choose from for a specific level.

[misty mason]

got one tapped by a crusher twice tho lol

[lunar fable]

ggggg

[misty mason]

That was rank 25 too so I got my boots

[lament blaze]

does the "beat a malice or higher without firing a shot" penance count throwing knives as a "shot?"

[woeful oyster]

It’s a blitz so no

[gleaming kelp]

The combat shotguns any good?

[misty ravine]

Not really

They're okay, but double barrel is better at being a shotgun

As a general purpose ranged weapon they lack damage for how slow they are to shoot and reload, and how little capacity and total ammo they have.

[lament blaze]

i did my first damnations today. did pretty good in pubs.. i hard clutched one mission 4 separate times but we lost right at the very very end. evac shuttle in sight 😭

[misty ravine]

Gotta love that

[woeful oyster]

I got my level 30 havoc in a pug today.

[lament blaze]

it was the phage tree one. we spent like 20 minutes in that fight alone cause we couldnt reset the things

[gleaming kelp]

Lame. Boltgun and flamer are great but so slow to switch to.

[woeful oyster]

Shitty handling is a cheap price to pay for such great killing power.

You’ll figure that out in time

[misty ravine]

Animation cancel with throwing knives (or just use throwing knife to kill the special if that's all you need)

[misty mason]

Can you survive an overhead from a crusher as a psyker or is it always just instant death?

[ionic spear]

ALwaya instant

[gleaming kelp]

True

[misty mason]

I'm meaning in havoc specifically where you die instantly cause of corruption

[woeful oyster]

If you have a wounds worth of corruption then yes, you’ll be big dead.

[misty mason]

Nah I was getting killed with like 0 corruption

Cause of the corruption on health damage in havoc

[woeful oyster]

Big dead is being hogtied

[misty mason]

yeah

Thats what Im saying

Im not going down

Im at full health, eat an overhead and hogtied

Im wondering if there's a health curio bp that lets you avoid that

[woeful oyster]

You should just go down from that as far as I know.

[misty mason]

i.e. downs you instead of kills you

Not in havoc

[visual stream]

It insta kills even with full toughness?

[misty mason]

I probably didnt have full toughness

Both times it was in a relatively intense moment

I was trying to work out if it's just a psyker hp moment

[woeful oyster]

You had to have corruption on you, are you sure you didn’t have any?

[misty mason]

We had a beacon zealot so it def wasnt incidental corruption that pushed me over

No

In higher havoc missions you take a % of damage as corruption

[vast basin]

no in high havocs you take corruption

[misty mason]

Oveheads can deal over 50% in corruption, so you just die

[visual stream]

So just poxwalker effect but on every enemy

[misty mason]

From what I understand yeah

[visual stream]

UD trolling me is gonna be even crazier now

[ionic spear]

if u only have 1 wound, you die

[misty mason]

yes

[next jacinth]

guys is the revolver not good in havoc?

[misty mason]

I understand basic game mechanics lol

[cerulean moth]

I see more bolt guns than revs now. Which was suprising, comparing it to release that is

[misty mason]

The point is that the crusher hits can add more than a wounds worth of corruption when they hit you in havoc

[vast basin]

ranged weapons with no DOTs are less good in havoc because of pus-hardened skin

[misty mason]

Meaning you are considered to be wounded

So you die

[cursive tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057577531739475971/1314927931750879342/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-12-07_19-13-22.mp4?ex=6758d951&is=675787d1&hm=cf52a11d73625fd673229e90e7208c470d92d7cd8fed4393ed73ea032fa1de2a&

Havoc 32, 1 overhead kills psyker n vet

[next jacinth]

how much ranged dam resist is that

[woeful oyster]

It’s the corruption doing it in combination with the damage.

[misty mason]

It also means you can take an overhead as zealot and have 1hp with the rest instantly corruption

[vast basin]

depends on havoc rank. its 10%+1% per havoc level

[misty mason]

yes I know thats what im saying

[visual stream]

Wouldn't corruption res be the answer, rather than more wounds?

[woeful oyster]

Corruptions res and health might be all that can mitigate it. Even then you might not survive it .

[visual stream]

That and health maybe but dunno if even two HP curios would save from that

[plush estuary]

Beacon of purity exists though

[placid fiber]

... heresy randos... they got wild takes... <.<'

[plush estuary]

no need for corruption res

[visual stream]

I LOVE STAGGER

[cerulean moth]

Beacon of purity becoming relevant and useful solely because of one modifier is funny

[visual stream]

INSTEAD OF KILLING THINGS ON THE FIRST SWING

[cerulean moth]

Fuck buffs make this shit mandatory Grah

[visual stream]

I mean it was already a decent aura but yeah

[woeful oyster]

Taking bulk corruption damage like that might be the only use case

[vague depot]

Oh damn they do corruption damage too?

That’s rough

[plucky gate]

I guess this is why

[placid fiber]

Welp... I got my psyker one of the force great swords. Initially, earlier, I had enough for 2 from brunt which I was gonna sacrifice both for mastery... but this was the 2nd one I got :/

I want level 7 mastery so I can change the mk on it lol

Oh well, I'm done playing for tonight... I got trapped twice in the last run... I'm going to bed. Gnight

o7

[grizzled aspen]

It was not "one" overhead, crushers and maulers get their overhead cooldowns removed in havocs.

It did an overhead, killed the psyker, and turned around and did another on you.

[misty mason]

The conclusion is basically don't get hit by overheads in havoc

[cursive tundra]

They are two separate overhead but its still a single overhead that 100 to 0'd both of us

[grizzled aspen]

Oh yeah they just straight up kill you outright.

It's really funny.

Here, have a clip of a crusher walking through a burgle and instakilling me.

[misty mason]

Yeah I had the weird experience of getting one tapped by a crusher twice in one match

But also doing a pretty good clutch and saving the mission

[misty mason]

🥞

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

Vibe checked psyker SCUMME !!

[grizzled aspen]

You hear me go OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right before I get turned into mist.

But it's w/e, I still have a clip of Para squealing like a girl after almost waking a DH.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-family-son-gif-7831723

[violet condor]

Just got my zealot to lv 30 any help on the best way to put my perk points?

[red swift]

slide in dms

[verbal briar]

hi, late to the relic blade party but im trying to make a build for havoc (at 20 rn) and it just feels awkward

the top middle masteries seem like trash but i really like immolation nade and chorus

[misty mason]

Check pins for build

For the blade

[verbal briar]

ok thanks

[grizzled aspen]

Unfortunately, to have a good build for havocs, you need to take tknives.

[sterile stone]

@grizzled aspen What are you up to?

[vague depot]

Generally take throwing knives, toughness tdr aura, fotf, and ij for general or piety for crit weapons

[grizzled aspen]

You don't have good toughness gen without second wind and you don't have the points to spare to grab it if you path through a different blitz.

[grizzled aspen]

Fo76 rn but I kinda wanna take a break, why?

[sterile stone]

Nothing

Don't worry

[lunar fable]

[grizzled aspen]

?

Why even ask, then?

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/you-to-me-gif-5464565068190392814

[grizzled aspen]

Did you find somebody in dorktide that uses the same name as one of my chars or something?

[sterile stone]

No but you def aren't the first autistic frog in here.

[lunar fable]

It's just a guy

Named frog

[sterile stone]

Nah I was gonna see if he was on darktide

[grizzled aspen]

Like in game?

Because I didn't name any characters "Frog."

I have Harkness (vet), Halflight (zealout), Cirilla (psyker), and Throgg (ogryn).

[sterile stone]

I was going to ask if you wanted to play a round.

But the feeling has passed

[grizzled aspen]

Ok?

Actually I kinda need to go to bed.

I have work in the morning.

:P

[frosty herald]

A mimir

[misty mason]

Yog moment

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/caitlyn-caitlyn-league-caitlyn-arcane-caitlyn-kiramman-league-of-legends-gif-23793193

[sterile stone]

You know that looks oddly familiar to one of the pistols pirate uses in for honor

[drowsy steppe]

flintlock pistols are common duuuhhh

[twin wagon]

🤮

[drowsy steppe]

in the appropriate time period

saltzpyre pistol type beat

[sterile stone]

Word

Mal I have a question

Have you eaten chicken cartilage?

[drowsy steppe]

noooh

[sterile stone]

Alright nevermind then

[drowsy steppe]

looks good tho

[sterile stone]

I've been seeing alot of Asian cooking shorts recently

And they use things like cartilage and gizzards

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MKBfxuI93mc

[drowsy steppe]

I love grilled satays

[sterile stone]

The stuff with the peanutbutter sauce?

[lunar fable]

SATAY CHICKEN SKEWERS

[drowsy steppe]

eeh not necessarily with that

but yea

[sterile stone]

Ah got u

I been meaning to expand the portfolio on stuff to cook

[drowsy steppe]

i fw grilled tofus too

[sterile stone]

Oh naaaah

I heard tofu isn't all that good for you

[lunar fable]

Why

[sterile stone]

I think it's the soy content

Or the sodium content

It's something

I can't remember

[lunar fable]

Tofu isn't supposed to be high in sodium content

[south folio]

the suspicious canister of morton's salt on my desk has something to say about that

if you can eat any beans, i'm sure you can eat tofu without worry

[light badge]

Mfw the referred pain from my wisdom teeth is so bad I literally cannot sleep

[drowsy steppe]

if you season it before yea

[lunar fable]

[sterile stone]

Nah tofu itself I think is find

It's like if you eat it in excess

[drowsy steppe]

but its low on sodium

[light badge]

Legit considering going to urgent care tomorrow, hoping and praying they can prescribe me stronger pain killers than acetaminophen or ibuprofen

[lunar fable]

I still haven't had mine pulled out

I'm baby

[sterile stone]

Bro i don't remember what about it is scuff

[drowsy steppe]

they taste ok without any seasoning, not great but not like a turn off

[lean lark]

don't delay the inevitable

The sooner you remove your wisdom teeth

[polar nexus]

the estrogen something something?

[lean lark]

The better

[south folio]

tofu is gr8 filler

[light badge]

I literally can't

Rn

No insurance til the first of January

[sterile stone]

Ok yeah

[drowsy steppe]

fellow asian food 🤝

[sterile stone]

So it's just

[lean lark]

that sucks

[sterile stone]

eating excessive tofu can potentially cause hormonal issues

Or thyroid issues

[lean lark]

I do hope you'll recover soon

[sterile stone]

Or breast tumors

[lean lark]

wisdom tooth pain is very annoying

[south folio]

linking tofu to literal tumors sounds pretty dubious

[lunar fable]

During the winter I like to have sundubu-jjigae

[light badge]

I just wish the pain would stay in my fucking jaw

[sterile stone]

In all fairness

Lemme post the screen

I think it just says if you're interals are really fucked

You shouldn't eat it

[light badge]

I can deal with jaw pain but holy fuck having my ear close up from the swelling is legitimately Un fucking bearable

[south folio]

yeah i guess some specific piece of advice to a specific group of people

[light badge]

I've thought about Van Gough'ing myself at least five times in the past week

[south folio]

i would have to be handed a proper paper (with actual good procedure) to be really convinced, especially since tofu gets dragged into the soy debate

i have zero trust in the discourse about this

[lunar fable]

✂️👂

[polar nexus]

Van Gouging at that point

[misty mason]

You might be thinking of soy sauce?

[sterile stone]

There's also this I found under it

[misty mason]

Which I high in sodium

Uh

[sterile stone]

That could be it yeah

[south folio]

i love sodium

[misty mason]

That'd probably bs the hormone thing

[south folio]

(i have below-average levels of sodium)

[lunar fable]

Not used to consuming soy doesn't apply to me because I'm asian

[light badge]

The best seasoning is microplastics and it's not close

[lunar fable]

[misty mason]

It's a weird right wing thing

[polar nexus]

it's why arco has no hairs and look feminine from behind

[south folio]

TRUUUUUUUUUUE

[misty mason]

That soy has estrogen in it

[sterile stone]

This comment is diabolical

[south folio]

yet very true

anyone want to post an argument against that?

[spare talon]

does this mean i can call you a femboy

[south folio]

that's what i thought

no

[lunar fable]

Bald

[spare talon]

what else could it mean

[sterile stone]

[polar nexus]

In the dark, Arco is fair game me thinks

[misty mason]

Soy has phyto estrogen in it, which is plant estrogen which is different

[south folio]

be prepared to be obliterated upon saying

[lunar fable]

New bald person in chat

[south folio]

shlerp

[sterile stone]

My eyes

You've assaulted my eyes

[misty mason]

confession

[south folio]

fortunately, my dad and grandfather have not exhibited any baldness (besides the usual), so I have great expectations of my hairline in the future

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/x-japan-hide-hideちゃん-hideto-matsumoto-taiji-gif-27211575

[sterile stone]

Inb4 the Mcdonalds arch way appears on your hairline

[polar nexus]

arco family

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-boobies-hot-boob-chungus-gif-19294729

[south folio]

you forebode ill omen upon me

[lunar fable]

Fake

[misty mason]

SnitchDonalds

[sterile stone]

I was born a hater

[light badge]

Widow's peak? More like widow's peak

[sterile stone]

Wait

Wrong reply

Damn you Dinkleberg

[south folio]

your intent to reply to a specific message was sabotaged midway by the feds to discredit you

[sterile stone]

I must flee to Norway

[merry flume]

bidos beak

[sterile stone]

No one expects a fugitive in Norway

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/grunch-pilotredsun-dance-music-gif-17228829

[merry flume]

me when psyker surgery tomorrow

[light badge]

!!

[spare talon]

redpilotsun

[light badge]

Please God let there be psyker surgery tomorrow

[spare talon]

i have to rewatch this now

[light badge]

Please let them give me vicodin or percocet

[sterile stone]

Best I can do is a pack of fun dip

And a diet dr.pepper

[lunar fable]

Warheads and a mcdonalds sprite

[sterile stone]

Mans making WMDs

[wooden basalt]

good end screen

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/pilotredsun-fiend-casino-night-gif-2276880438301893975

this is me irl

[misty mason]

Its a knoife

[spare talon]

this showed up in my youtube home page the other day and it instantly reminded me of redpilotsun

https://youtu.be/v-Nf1ktmyBo?si=laeIzT-GGNKGX2b7

[merry flume]

this is the perfect hour to watch some goofy shit like this

[sterile stone]

What is this acid trip of a video

[drowsy steppe]

you are half white

you will be noticed immediately

[sterile stone]

I'm 1/3rd white

[drowsy steppe]

in an all white country

[sterile stone]

I'm sick of this misinformation on my name

I'm gonna rko someone out of a window

[twin wagon]

Have you tried mitosis?

[drowsy steppe]

maybe south america will blend you with the population better

Im screwed if my country to run away to is Poland 💀

[misty mason]

I wish that chest piece was a single piece

[autumn vector]

Is there a semi decent source of info out there for psykers or am I just figuring this out as I go along? Is this decent? Antheum?

[misty mason]

Rather than with that weird gap

[fast iron]

i would recommend the psyker class channel, not the zealot class channel.

[misty mason]

There's the psyker chat if you can't get answers here

[fast iron]

zealots would recommend you being purged with holy fire :p

(but yes psyker anathenum)

[sterile stone]

I'm starting to miss playing havoc

[misty mason]

Are you looking for something in particular?

[sterile stone]

These maelstrom pubs are horrible

[merry flume]

good ol darktide

[autumn vector]

Ya see there is a problem there, there are seemingly very few informational sources out there that are decent when it comes to darktide and in general find zealot chat is a decent info source that doesn't mean psyker chat is.

So I uh

Thats why I asked here

[warm rapids]

Whats the best perks for the new sword

[autumn vector]

Youtube besides a select few channels will actively make you a worse player at the game

[inland lava]

Hey I'm trying to complete the "Shocking Stuff" Penance does anyone have any advice

[twin wagon]

Nothing better than a misinformed player that thinks they know it all thanks to youtubers

Can't people just watch the 3 solo youtubers?

Atleast they showcase good habits...

[fast iron]

yeah uh i'll be honest if someone does a solo run successfully they probably know what they're talking about

especially if they've also done successful vermintide 2 solo runs

[sinful glen]

and who would those select few be

[sinful glen]

i feel like vermintide 2 solo runs were a lot easier maybe its just me

[twin wagon]

Carrying in vt2 is generally easier

There's a lot of enemies and systems in dt to make it harder

[lone matrix]

trappers say hello

[twin wagon]

A trapper is a momentary check you can dodge before resing

In vt2 we can dash res

teleport res

even jump res

[sullen eagle]

what blessings on flamer

[twin wagon]

we don't even have to worry about things like gunners, shooters and similar

[lone matrix]

stuck in horde and gets netted anyway

[sullen eagle]

also am i gaming? based on a build i was given for MkIV Dueling + flamer, tweaked it to use with thammer instead

tho im thinking of swapping to Benediction cuz its a lot better imo

[vast basin]

thammer is not really a great weapon for piety because of it's poor crit adms and the fact it wont get much value from scourge. this also means beacon is not really great with thammer. I would recommend going ij with fury of the faithful, and also swapping scourge to blood redemption and picking up second wind

[timid bough]

ye whatever you're cooking got burnt

it's a decent dueling sword build tho why knives instead of flame grenade I'll never know

[twin wagon]

Flame grenade flat out sucks

[timid bough]

kek

you must not play the game very much

[twin wagon]

Not because of the grenade itself which is "meh", but because of hte nodes before it just suck

[timid bough]

this is a far better starter path for dueling sword

the nodes do suck

but the grenade more than makes up for it

at higher levels

[twin wagon]

No.

[timid bough]

that's ok you can be wrong

[sullen eagle]

what about shroudfield thammer

[timid bough]

go play havoc 40 with knives and lmk how it works

[sullen eagle]

i dont play havoc 40 lol

[timid bough]

if you play lower levels knives are better

[twin wagon]

Ironically it's better than fire grenade that stops killing mobian 23rd for the FULL duration at 38

[timid bough]

better nodes and not enough density of enemies for flame grenade to be clutch

[twin wagon]

Knives atleast keep their sniper, shotgunner and gunner 1 shot.

[timid bough]

or like

just don't have dogshit aim

and use the flame grenade for the 20k damage

not everything is about killing things outright

[twin wagon]

Node efficiency, specially for extra points to get TREE toughness is better than a fire grenade

[timid bough]

no it is not

[twin wagon]

It also allows your tauntgryn, if you run one, to get ogrynheimer more often to keep speeding

[timid bough]

knives are literally useless unless you have really poor aim or forget to switch to your ranged weapon

[twin wagon]

I already cited the 3 enemies knives deal with irrelevant of havok

[timid bough]

so does a gun

[twin wagon]

Gun uses ammo

[timid bough]

and?

are you using your gun on poxwalkers?

[twin wagon]

I'm starting to suspect you are just trying to bait me so I'll post here so you can atleast enlighten yourself.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

TLDR: Ammo economy in havok actually matters, not using ammo to deal with threats is invaluable to the point rock would be useful, if it didn't lead to a shitty node.

[timid bough]

this is not worth arguing over anyone who's actually played high havoc knows how much better a flame grenade is

I recommend you try the game mode first before actually talking about it

GL

[final forge]

anyone need a body for 39+?

[spare talon]

flame grenade isnt worth losing the 4 nodes youd have to take above it that are better spent elsewhere
youre better off leaving that job to being done by a flamer+survivalist or a purgatus/trauma psyker

[timid bough]

if you have both, yes

[frosty herald]

Throwing knives have better pathing

[timid bough]

but you get a ton of grenades naturally

[frosty herald]

Also no second wind lmao

[timid bough]

it's way better if you don't have both a flamer and purgatus, even then, flamer runs out of ammo a lot quicker than you run out of grenades, and having just 1 or the other is where flame grenades really shine

[spare talon]

every person on the team that has a non-regenerating grenade increases the scarcity of the grenades for the rest of the team that also dont

[timid bough]

you have 1 psyker to -1 grenade

you have 1 vet so grenade regen

leaves i.e. 2 zealots actually picking up grenades

use 1 grenade per horde and you're beyond chilling

source, I did that

[spare talon]

id rather let the ogryn with a literal situation clearing nuke have the grenade instead of a secondary flamer

[twin wagon]

Tauntgryn emergency powers save the day

[frosty herald]

Field improv vet ogryn combo

[twin wagon]

even if it no longer 1 shots scab ragers at 40

[timid bough]

then you have to run an ogryn - if you're running an ogryn there's a case to be made, and that'll still be too many grenades

[frosty herald]

I should genuinely try to get a rando for me to do that

[spare talon]

my 40/TS team had an ogryn

1 of each class

[timid bough]

ogryn is fine

[spare talon]

and he got all the grenades

for this exact reason

[timid bough]

then he was wasting grenades

ngl

theres not enough elite packs to waste all grenades on with grenade regen from vet

also, elites on their own without poxwalkers isn't really a threat

[spare talon]

he only used a grenade in a situation that called for it (which was almost never tbh cuz the team comp had everything so locked down)
or when we started an engagement while next to another pickup, which was instantly over due to said grenade

[twin wagon]

And this is how you know someone hasn't played havok

Gunners and shotgunners are your main threat outside of basic shooters

Emperors fading light 2 makes sure of it

[timid bough]

yeah you're for sure not braindead buddy

[frosty herald]

You sound like you got carried

[timid bough]

maybe don't skill issue so hard as to shotgunners being a threat

jesus

[twin wagon]

Ok if you wanna measure cocks we can do this

I was carried here

[timid bough]

are you dumb, or do you realize that I did that and the insane

nvm

don't answer

gl

[twin wagon]

I'm sure you did it in 35 and got carried

[timid bough]

38

also

I literally did 40

xD?

[frosty herald]

Bro had to que up with level 1k's

[timid bough]

I forgot how rarted the average guy is mb

go play knives

have fun

[twin wagon]

I will, you can enjoy your inneficient pathing ^^

[frosty herald]

Oh knives are useful in havoc without pus skin

[sterile stone]

Why wouldn't you just use immo nades for cc

Genuinely curios for an answer

[frosty herald]

Flamer

Just use flamer instead

[twin wagon]

Flamer and tree toughness is unaffected by emperors fading light 2

[sterile stone]

What if it's empty

[twin wagon]

So any "possible" node dedicated to it increases surv

[spare talon]

it wont be with a survivalist vet

[frosty herald]

A purgatus psyker also achieves the same effect

[spare talon]

that too

hell its honestly better if the purgatus psyker is the only one doing it

[sterile stone]

You're not guanranteed any of these

In pubs

[spare talon]

cuz of PC

[twin wagon]

You can organise party finders

[spare talon]

you realize you can talk to them right

[twin wagon]

Just write for "strike team" and most folk tend to start talking back

[spare talon]

i was psyker in my 40/TS group because the group didnt have a psyker

[twin wagon]

Cole stop coping my life experiences but in a slightly cooler outlook

[frosty herald]

Ngl i might do something deranged and use fan the flames in havoc

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1315419986826887230/hey-girl.gif

[frosty herald]

I noticed flamer primary staggers everything in havoc

At lvl 40.

[spare talon]

see

[twin wagon]

Look guys I cooked with immo!

[spare talon]

this game would be cool

[sterile stone]

You must have been absent

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-rivals-shork-coogs-gif-11261113178600987303

[spare talon]

but its basically just supposedly overwatch but its not bad anymore

[twin wagon]

Pretty good

[spare talon]

but its still pvp

[sterile stone]

When I've posted that I've had teammates explicity say they don't know how to run certain builds

[twin wagon]

So good blizzard is malding

[sterile stone]

So yeah

[spare talon]

thats why its important to both be able to flex yourself and find a group where you being able to flex can allow for a proper comp

[frosty herald]

I cant actualy play havoc today

Sm2 update

[twin wagon]

That will drive the chaff away?

Lmao

sm2 update for what

the promised dark angel cosmetics?

[sterile stone]

So basically

[frosty herald]

Erm

[sterile stone]

If your team can't fill a role

Abandon them

[frosty herald]

Dark angels and a new operation

[sterile stone]

That's what you're saying?

[twin wagon]

[spare talon]

im saying if it is impossible for the team to have the general checklist filled with you being a wild card in there

then yes

if they cant adapt to play havoc on its terms, havoc will not let them play

[frosty herald]

Adapt you say?

https://tenor.com/view/with-this-treasure-i-summon-gif-13157585410586563450

[spare talon]

this was also like the first time ive genuinely used bubble if you ignore the penances

which i didnt even use in an actual game for that, i just cheesed that in a mmt game

[frosty herald]

4 smite psykers

[sterile stone]

So I dunno if you've noticed this

[spare talon]

like i literally never used it in a real game until h33

[sterile stone]

But you do realize this can be viewed as toxic right

[spare talon]

possibly

[sterile stone]

Just straight up leaving a team to dry because they don't want to fit a mold you want them to

[spare talon]

but i did mean general checklist

[frosty herald]

Respect havoc

[sterile stone]

I'm not trying to argue against it.

I'm just saying

[twin wagon]

I don't wanna derank

[sterile stone]

These will be talking points casual players do make.

[twin wagon]

And casuals can eat my socks

Havok is not for them

Like weaves

[spare talon]

like do we have someone to generally cc (1-2 voc/chorus/taunt) something to mitigate ranged enemies (ranged vet/bubble), and something to clear out wide groups (staffs/flamer/shredders)

[polar nexus]

sounds like a survivalist shredder voc focus target vet fills those 3 roles

that is what i have been playing after a few rounds as a zealot

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

you need more than just 1 person to do things

[lean lark]

you don't

if your dmg dealer is that good

[twin wagon]

YOu've been able to play zealot in havok?

[drowsy steppe]

jon darktide

[lean lark]

as long as they're alive

[twin wagon]

Most party finder groups seem to need psykers

[lean lark]

it's all that matter

[twin wagon]

no tauntgryn because party finders are racist, so that's for premade only

[polar nexus]

i stopped playing fotf zealot in pub

[spare talon]

i mean
my party finder group had a tauntgryn

and he was goated

[polar nexus]

i have not found enough vets in my runs

[twin wagon]

If there's one in sure, but suggesting one tends to make the group drop kick

[polar nexus]

so i'd rather be the one

[potent gate]

The trap some people get into is not doing your basic mmo's abc's and just failing to position well to maximise cleave potential and incoming threats

[twin wagon]

People positiong themselves because it improves odds
I position myself to make damage go up

[spare talon]

most of the time positioning well does end up leading to maximum cleave potential in the end too so lol

[potent gate]

On a Gloriana run right at the end, two teammates died right at the end and I made a tragic mistake of fighting 200 crushers on a staircase, then I heard a trapper sound ;>

[lean lark]

yeah vets are very very important

[warm pebble]

So this Tanner guy, I really felt like I could trust his judgement on Toughness curios for Veteran, but he also placed a blanket statement that a +3 Stamina curio is good on everyone (he obviously doesn't play Ogryn)

What about Zealot? I see this highly rated "meta" build on gameslantern that argues Stamina is questionable on Zealot, why is that? I would assume Stamina is useful for gap closing with ranged and generally making the Zealot more survivable in melee.

Uh oh, what have I done?

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorparrive-cat-green-cat-glorp-space-gif-1554876253328099453

[lean lark]

specials/disablers are prio targets and veteran fucks them up

[lean lark]

your failures will not be forgiven

[drowsy steppe]

I have +3 stam on my vet psyker zeal

[copper hawk]

Zealot has the fastest base stamina regen speed

[polar nexus]

i use stam on zealot and vet, i can do without on psyker and never use them for ogryn

[potent gate]

Actually talking about that.

Do you know the DR enemies have against ranged for pox hardened skin?

[copper hawk]

I guess

[spare talon]

tanner can have some of the most rancid takes quite often
(he also is kind of a very unkind person and is currently advocating for harrassment against the current community manager strawhat, oops!)

[copper hawk]

I never run stamina

[lean lark]

10% +1%*havoc rank

[copper hawk]

I never find the need to ever use it

[spare talon]

i run +3 stamina on vet and zealot
never on psyker and ogryn

[copper hawk]

If ur using knife and maybe the dclaw then run a stamina curio

[drowsy steppe]

when was this

[lean lark]

But they don't feel like ranged enemies have 50% ranged Dr in hav40

[spare talon]

psyker has such a short regen delay and also kinetic deflection

[polar nexus]

he also used the word ebonics several times on stream

[spare talon]

last few weeks

[frosty herald]

Cause were all running dot lmao

[copper hawk]

I swear by hp tness tness

Every one of my builds use it

[potent gate]

Thank you. That's honestly not too bad me thinks. It's not some overly inflated 200% bs.

[polar nexus]

and taxe

[lean lark]

not my vet

[polar nexus]

and maybe crusher

[warm pebble]

What about your perks? CDR, resistances, more toughness?

[copper hawk]

I never block anythink

[potent gate]

I have noticed spending more rounds on them but it's never enough to care really. If they need to die, they need to die.

[lean lark]

my vets laspistol doesn't have 100% crit chance sadly so I don't get full dot usefulnes

[copper hawk]

I run +tness +hp +gunner res

On all of them

[frosty herald]

Had tanner been blacklisted by GW yet?

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/caitlyn-caitlyn-league-caitlyn-arcane-caitlyn-kiramman-league-of-legends-gif-23793193

interesting

[lean lark]

But I still deal like 400dmg to reapers with +unyielding

[copper hawk]

I get 172 tness and 310 hp

[lean lark]

Compared to 550 in aurics

[polar nexus]

except toxic people

[spare talon]

gunner resist and +toughness are always huge
cdr being 12% at 3x curio perks is kinda not much when its 3-6 seconds of a difference depending on ability, before taking into account all the sources of CDR in the game
i personally like stam regen as my last one cuz im a stam goblin and push/push attack and sprint a lot

[copper hawk]

🥁 🐛

[drowsy steppe]

I use block when Im fighting a cspawn or trying to avoid rager damage

[polar nexus]

the infamous drumworm

[sterile stone]

I was gonna say something

But you know

IF you have nothing kind to say

Say nothing at all

[drowsy steppe]

say the line

🙂

[copper hawk]

I never like

Felt the need for sprint stamina

It regens so fast

And i dont have add

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/daenerys-game-of-thrones-gif-337722315604073852

You know damn well Mal

[copper hawk]

I dont feel the need 2 constantly be runnin,,

[sterile stone]

I won't say it

[frosty herald]

He probably dislikes you for being 1 shade darker than his ghostly looking ass

[drowsy steppe]

edgind me rn smh

[sterile stone]

Fucking good

[drowsy steppe]

LMAO

[sterile stone]

I love it when people don't hide their disdain

Shows they aren't bitch made

Let me know you dislike me upfron

[warm pebble]

Holy fuck I had no idea the man was so controversial

[copper hawk]

Yeaahhh

[polar nexus]

sounds like a secret tannerite\

[clever swan]

I got the talent which gives you damage up when your stamina hits 0 so i don't run stamina curios at all

[sterile stone]

You wanna know something funny....

[copper hawk]

He's a ... unique character lmfao

[sterile stone]

This isn't the first community he's been ousted by...

[copper hawk]

He's been a jerk for a loooong time

[drowsy steppe]

he used to be more annoying and prone to getting angry than he is now

[copper hawk]

And he's got some moldy takes

[lean lark]

tanner and everyone he is in contact with is an abominable insult of a human being

[copper hawk]

He's a good player but not as good as his ego would suggest :p

It's... strange

[spare talon]

yeah this has been a reoccuring theme in terms of every gaming community he has touched/made videos for
i wonder when he will realize lmao

[sterile stone]

I wish I had the gif of Passos from max payne 3

[twin wagon]

[copper hawk]

Dunning Kruger and allat

[sterile stone]

Woulda fit this comment perfectly.

[brave cypress]

how tf do you beef with strawhat whos almost never around 95% of the tome

[twin wagon]

I run +3 stam on psyker

[sterile stone]

Mental

[twin wagon]

stop me

[sterile stone]

Illness

[copper hawk]

U find beef

U make bee

There no beef u make it

U think Khorne's lil goblin is Khârn ?

No

It tanne