#zealot-class

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tame narwhal
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I need to run Havoc more tbh

copper hawk
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slaught and hter

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heavy hitter

violet hornet
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I've only seen charge ogryns in havoc, no taunt

tame narwhal
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I run pick axe lol

misty ravine
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Planting shield with Attention Seeker is a good way to neutralize a Sniper gunline

toxic dock
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The shock maul is ass right? Or am I just not got good rolls yet?

empty python
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shock&awe thammer goes brr

gleaming furnace
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It’s ass

copper hawk
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i don't use taunt

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i think it's kinda shitty in terms of what an ogryn suffers from while in havoc

violet hornet
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And only kickback or gauntlet

raven swan
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I am confused, why I am still stuck at 16 when my highest is 17?

copper hawk
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you ALREADY kill trash like crazy w the kars

misty ravine
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Shield Plant is like Smite, it's great as long as you use it when you need to and not all the goddamn time

copper hawk
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you dont need a damage boost

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if ur using heavy hitter

hushed knoll
tame narwhal
empty python
copper hawk
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what fucks u, and ur team, up as Ogryn in H40 is the gap between you and the reaper horde

fleet zealot
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i've seen ogryns spam lights

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with it

tame narwhal
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That too

fleet zealot
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it's ridic

lunar fable
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crazy

violet hornet
copper hawk
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what i do is i just peak a bunch of shooters

hushed knoll
violet hornet
hushed knoll
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Wrong answer

copper hawk
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hide again, have them target a teammate,

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then i charge into the gunner/reaper line

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then i kill them all w my kars

fleet zealot
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ranged taunt on shield is pretty useful from what i've seen

copper hawk
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this works every time

flat sky
fleet zealot
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it really depends on the ogryn using it tho

copper hawk
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yah

gleaming furnace
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Indeed

copper hawk
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i felt it wasn't very useful personally

fleet zealot
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yes reddit

tame narwhal
copper hawk
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since it doesn't force gunners and reapers into melee

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charging into them does though

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it also knocks them down

final mural
copper hawk
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the time between u knocking them down and pushing/staggering w kars heavy hits is time for ur team to regroup and push up 2 kill them with you

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it also knocks down tough enemies so your teammates can run and reposition with you

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for a fairly long time

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charge to me is just the better option

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it provides wayyyy more support for ur team than taunt does

tame narwhal
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Wait how would Pick Axe fair then in Havoc?

copper hawk
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it faired great

gleaming furnace
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It fares well

copper hawk
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when i max stacked everything i was killing everything

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i had 900k damage on a H40 game

tame narwhal
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Oh good cause I pretty much rely on it LOL

copper hawk
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w around 800 kills

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run the kars

violet hornet
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Ogryn heavy bleeds seem good in Havoc in general

copper hawk
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hter and slaught

grave cypress
copper hawk
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heavy hitter

toxic dock
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Is pick the same as verm pick?

copper hawk
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the branx is the verm pick

tame narwhal
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Yeah

copper hawk
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kars is like the hs 9 for ogryn

gleaming furnace
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Think of it like a battle axe

tame narwhal
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Branx is

normal halo
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collateral dump stat, correct?

copper hawk
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like straight up it's the hs 9 lol

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looping side heavies

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special overhead

tame narwhal
copper hawk
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push single target

flat sky
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ima figure that one out for y'all. I am sure it's as useful as a wet paper towel.

violet hornet
copper hawk
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it's imo the best pickaxe of them all

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bar none

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it does both single target and horde amazingly while also giving u full value out of heavy hitter

gleaming furnace
lunar fable
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i use the borovian

misty ravine
tame narwhal
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I need to do a heavy hitter build now, I just run tank Ogryn and never die

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Only time I do is if im afk lol

grave cypress
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when people post their end of game scoreboards im always so confused which stat im supposed to be looking at in terms of "I did everything" cause I see the highest orange numbrs in every catagory consistantly

normal halo
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I did notice the run n' gun tho

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coulda sworn i had surgical lol

misty ravine
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Run & Gun is great for that 2nd slot unless you spend a lot of time ADSing as a Zealot

tame narwhal
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I just run at Gunner and bonk them with a really sharp weapon

final mural
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Am I schizo for rocking this for a chorus crit regen build in havoc? despair Debating getting a flamer but I like my bolt pistol too much

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Debating just not using this boring ass weapon and going back to a relic sword for entertainment purposes

delicate shadow
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you definitely don't need shred

gleaming furnace
copper hawk
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ok

final mural
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I was debating getting rid of shred tbf, not too sure what to do with it though

copper hawk
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this is what i ran

normal halo
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big fat crit headshot knocks out a reaper

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usually get headshots on trappers etc

final mural
tame narwhal
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I have crit zealot so I just ran with the crit lol

copper hawk
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it's precog and riposte

toxic dock
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Did they ever fix hand cannon applying to melee weapons?

gleaming furnace
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Uncanny

misty ravine
toxic dock
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I’ve been gone awhile

tame narwhal
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Crusher? I barely even know her

final mural
gleaming furnace
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Lmao shred and riposte can get you to 100% crit chance with the right build

copper hawk
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it's requirement

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in h40 u will struggle with just one poxwalker lmfao

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u don't have the cleave for it

final mural
copper hawk
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flamer covers your other weakness

final mural
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yikes

copper hawk
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but not totally, you'll need to stick with your team

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suggest u stick w an ogryn running shield or a kars

toxic dock
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Crusher still slaps glad it finally got a second blessing with the word damage on it

copper hawk
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help him out with single targets

final mural
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I havent actually used a flamer in forever, any idea on a good dump/blessings?

copper hawk
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rely on him to kill chaff for you

gleaming furnace
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Blaze away overpressure

copper hawk
copper hawk
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you can also swap for penetrating flames but u won't need it

tame narwhal
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It’s not a meme

copper hawk
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cuz ur running a ds

final mural
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I'm guessing still right click hordeclearing?

copper hawk
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damage on the flamer only affects teh FIRST TARGET hit w a gout of flames

tame narwhal
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The fire when it applies to enemies is where the damage is at. The flamer the only weapon that benefits from damage dump

copper hawk
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and the difference between this first target damage is exactly 1.4

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between 60 and 80

final mural
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huh, weird

tame narwhal
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^

copper hawk
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the damage on the Flamer is regulated by the BURN stat, which NEEDS to be AT LEAST 76%

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BURN is the DoT stack that, when an enemy loses a stack, they take a certain amount of DoT damage

tame narwhal
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Yes

copper hawk
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the more stacks the more damage

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if you dont hit at least 76 on burn u lose the last stack

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which does the most damage

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so burn is the dump

final mural
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Is there a specific way I should be using the flamer, in havoc atleast? Really been forever since I've used it, always been on my revo/pistols

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Forget if the left click is even of any use tbh

tame narwhal
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If I was on my PC I’d send the screen shot that sums up flamer lol

toxic dock
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Oh is there there damage stat difference between revolver variants

tame narwhal
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I just dumped reload speed on my revolver lol

toxic dock
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Well I mean does the agri get less pen or something or does the speed loader just mean it’s better

fast iron
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off memory, damage falloff

misty nova
fleet zealot
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how do vets do less thank 400k on havocs

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WAHH

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also lmao

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clutched it cause all my team ledged themselves during the archivum finale

lean lark
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cant win with Good Friends

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😇

frosty herald
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We almost fucking had it

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No joke run it again

tepid sorrel
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i love darktide

lean lark
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surge psyker in my hav40....

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i realized too late

frosty herald
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The psyker is very usefull

lean lark
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with surge in 40 you have as much horde clear as a grey knife

frosty herald
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Genuinely sorry for picking up ammo all of the time

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Its a very bad habit

tepid sorrel
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do u need a non-rando

lean lark
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nah our randos are good

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im telling them what to run

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but fundamentally they're good

tawny summit
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What are the dump stats on Thunder hammer and Flamer?

tepid sorrel
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good

fleet zealot
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i'm tired boss

fleet zealot
lean lark
ocean dew
tawny summit
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oh boy two different answers

plush estuary
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the damage stat only affects the fire impact damage, the difference between 60-80 is literally 1dps

north sedge
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dump cloud radius, run around burning people with the range of a bic lighter

lean lark
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mobility is useless

north sedge
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the real answer is dump either doesn't matter that much

plush estuary
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That is true

fast iron
plush estuary
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go ahead

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I am all ears

fast iron
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Damage has three multiplicative stats. More impact damage, faster rampup, and faster damage interval.

tawny summit
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which mark is better for the thammer

fast iron
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These also likely only matter if you're near point blank range, as impact damage goes down to almost 50% the normal interval at effective range.

north sedge
karmic sparrow
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I pretty much never judge a players skill, weapon picks or talents.

But seeing a zealot join the group lobby with stealth, knife throw, loner, combat knife and Heihachi haircut is some of the most cringe shit imo

buoyant pewter
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What’s the setup for the heavy evis? Perks blessings

atomic fjord
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Guys

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My friend is level 14

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I took him into a auric maelstrom w pox gas and no ammo

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This is what this fucker gets for killing me back in helldivers

lean fern
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"dw bro this should be easy"

visual stream
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Ironhelm is a generalist but has less boss damage, hits one shots on everything the crucis can but has to be more mindful of how

red swift
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Crucis is just better now with the vertical swing I say

placid fiber
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Holy fuck... I thought I had maxed all of the upgrades from the soul currency... then I saw an upgrade that "increased the limits"... I think it "increased" it by just a nudge, don't you guys? This is in rogue legacy 2 <.<

atomic fjord
opaque island
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time to start grinding dark

atomic fjord
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First wave took him out

placid fiber
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aka the boss fight ones lol

misty nova
lean lark
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@frosty herald

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you should be stoned to death by crusher hammers

fleet zealot
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popping red stim and flamer

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is the juiciest thing ever

frosty herald
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The psyker doesnt use toughness bubbke

hard nexus
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with chastise and IJ

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you shoot absurdly fast

fleet zealot
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why chastise?

lean lark
hard nexus
tepid sorrel
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we should kill yamato

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AND dawn priest

fleet zealot
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heck yea

frosty herald
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HOW CAN I DODGE A SILENT TRAPPER

opaque island
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we should kill me

tepid sorrel
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we should!

hard nexus
tepid sorrel
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that's a great family bonding experience

hard nexus
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with ur aura

fleet zealot
tepid sorrel
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kill this motherfucker!!!!

lean lark
tame narwhal
lean lark
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the same teammates that are spamming purgatus in a hallway

frosty herald
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Fucking spam ping that were goinv down

fleet zealot
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it's not silent, you aren't listening on the astral plane

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what a skill issue

lean lark
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why should i double my inputs so you can use less of your senses

tame narwhal
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Now going to use it on my one friend that makes shitty undersea puns

tepid sorrel
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yamato u do understand that situatiional awareness is important for high level gameplay right

tame narwhal
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Each pun will only worsen

tepid sorrel
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other players will absolutely not be wrangling you like a dog on a leash

tame narwhal
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This^

fleet zealot
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anyways lmao

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i wish i had a pc that wasn't held together by hopes and dreams

tepid sorrel
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you can have mine

tame narwhal
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I’m not even relying on sound anymore, I’m relying on other senses

fleet zealot
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the clip of all 3 of my teammates ledging themselves on archivum sycoraxe

fleet zealot
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was hilarious

tepid sorrel
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Let's fucking gamble!!!!

plucky gate
fleet zealot
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i fuckin, turn around

fleet zealot
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all 3 of them ledged, and being melted by a flamer

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thankfully i got the crutch off

lean lark
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see you guys next week when i get 3 attempts back

fleet zealot
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but LMAO it was so sudden

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that archivum drop is deadly in lights out

tepid sorrel
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i'm proud of you

hard nexus
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idek what

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they just all died

fleet zealot
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LOL

hard nexus
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i think 2 died to one crusher overhead

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i’d have to find the clip

fleet zealot
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that was a good run

tepid sorrel
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my favorite circumstances are when a single crusher kills 2-3 teammates

fleet zealot
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i'm going to eat lunch then ride my bike

opaque island
fleet zealot
fast iron
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ferret hungers for cereal

fast iron
fast iron
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Twin boss mission and the crusher trap. You know the room.

fleet zealot
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you just made that ogryn's day

tame narwhal
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You made that 3 year olds abhumans day alright

visual stream
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I once got quadra burster'd in Carnival map elevator because it jumped at the door

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While all of us were already about ten feet down

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We all died

tame narwhal
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Same but it was more than 4 for me and I somehow lived lol

fleet zealot
fast iron
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the solution is to clearly bring a psyker with you that can trivially stagger crushers and send bulwalks flying.

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(psykers lowkey stronger than ogryn)

heavy arch
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ogryns down bad rn

fast iron
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i meant strength as in stagger force

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the psyker could likely with their bare hands pick up a ogryn with telekinesis and yeet them

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(they basically do that already with force push on poor bulwarks, the lad is NOT prepared for the psyker's strength)

tame narwhal
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Question, is it possible to drag someone into a Havoc 40 if they new? Cause I wanna troll my friend

plucky gate
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they would need to beat a maelstrom to unlock havoc first

tame narwhal
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Oh that’ll be easy then

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I’m going to troll him this week cause his awful puns are getting to me

misty nova
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Bro's willing to lose one havoc for the troll

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Now that's commitment

raven swan
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Can you suggest me good Zaelot Build with a book?

lean lark
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@raven swan

tame narwhal
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You’ll do anything just to be a reason they uninstall

desert fractal
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hello gamers

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how yall doin

tepid sorrel
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hello gamer

desert fractal
tepid sorrel
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im darking it

desert fractal
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darking your tide frfr

winged vessel
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lasgun zealot

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insane

buoyant pewter
buoyant pewter
fleet zealot
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straight up darking it

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and by it

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lets just say

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my 40,000 warhammers

misty nova
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Not havoc ready afaik

tame narwhal
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Darking her tide soon

desert fractal
tame narwhal
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Oh already know I’m down for that

desert fractal
misty nova
# buoyant pewter 15

Shred Rampage if Piety build
Bloodthirsty Rampage anything else
+Cara for Crusher one shot

jade juniper
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24/7 straight darking my tide

desert fractal
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hmm

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do I play ogryn or vet today

desert fractal
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I am not anime nerd

quasi marsh
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Then why do you care

quasi marsh
tame narwhal
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I need to watch the anime she’s in

desert fractal
quasi marsh
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She's a girl

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In a japanese animated show

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Does that explain everything

desert fractal
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yes I could gleam that from looking at it lol

quasi marsh
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Thats not her

desert fractal
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😔

quasi marsh
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Thats her girlfriend

desert fractal
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oh

tame narwhal
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Ayo

desert fractal
raven swan
tame narwhal
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I need the sauce

jade juniper
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wot is "jap-A-sneeze?"

quasi marsh
desert fractal
jade juniper
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sounds like one of the gooey heretics

misty nova
desert fractal
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if you wanna dark your side sometime btw lmk @tame narwhal

tame narwhal
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Oh yessir, will do

desert fractal
fleet zealot
desert fractal
fleet zealot
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the healing is done

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now it is the time for proactive medicine

raven swan
fleet zealot
desert fractal
misty nova
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Not sure why Orcka went Infectious zeal though

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Oh and you can also drop the side nodes on the book

raven swan
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Aye, I ask cause I am lazy lerning new things and because I already have dueling sword leveled so I guess it can work

hard nexus
copper hawk
placid fiber
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It's really handy, in rogue legacy 2, that you can just return to the main menu and then start up your run again to teleport right back to the 1st room in the castle

copper hawk
placid fiber
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You don't even have to be away from monsters you can enter a room, see monsters, decide you went the wrong way, return to menu, start up the run again lol

desert spear
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10 auric damnations complete yayayayyayayyyyaaayahahahyayayayayyaayaytayatayayayayayaaayaya

placid fiber
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Grats!

ornate bone
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VICTORY

potent gate
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I just went to check pins because I wanted my relic blade guide

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and I see this now

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why must you be like this

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give me my answers

desert spear
raven nacelle
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huh, does the Relic Blade (when powered on) stagger ragers during their attacks?

desert spear
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this genuinely took me all day (with breaks I had to go out for an hour)

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I started at like 10am and now it’s 7pm

green steppe
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why does the crusher feel like shit to use am i missing something

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ive been using it for like a day straight and its always felt so lacking compared to like.. heavy evisc

misty nova
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And Slaughterer Skullcrusher

desert spear
green steppe
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moreso just regarding its horde clear comparitively.. I think its slower or something

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Damage-wise i just land one powered heavy before my teammates kill them so its not a damage issue rlly

fleet zealot
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Push attack and L3

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for mk10

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idk the other mark combos

grave cypress
desert spear
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crusher feels great to use

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so

grave cypress
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Crusher feels like dogshit to use not because of stats though.

It's because its animations are dogshit

desert spear
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uhm… idk!!

grave cypress
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heavy attacks feel so week aesthetically

green steppe
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Something about it is just not fun to use

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i think they should come out with another mark with a diff moveset or something

misty nova
fleet zealot
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it's a really good combo weapon

green steppe
fleet zealot
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yea crusher activated L1 spam has infinite cleave

desert spear
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I’ve been loving the build I have with crusher

fleet zealot
desert spear
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best crusher btw

hard nexus
green steppe
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This isnt an issue Ive encountered on other weapons.. Or at least noticed cat_think

fleet zealot
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eviscerator for example, has a damage cap of 4 on lights

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past that, it will only stagger, 0 damage

potent gate
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Funny thing is Cas mentioned about heavy eviscerator horde speed.

Heavy evis has an AWFUL damage cap

hard nexus
fleet zealot
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oh yea

hard nexus
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target cap is h1 on the shield

fleet zealot
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thanks meow

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i'm stupid

hard nexus
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all good lmfao

fleet zealot
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i need to go do my run

hard nexus
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frown

hard nexus
fleet zealot
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but all my little gay friends are on the puter

royal vortex
potent gate
fleet zealot
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oddly so

copper hawk
copper hawk
green steppe
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what the fuck is the armouries problem even
its just chainaxes heavy blades combat blades and devils claw swords

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We should be allowed to kill the vendor

fleet zealot
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wdym

violet hornet
green steppe
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like shoot the vendor with rocks

fleet zealot
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you can just go to the whites store and buy whatever you want

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LOL why you heff to be mad

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it's only game

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you can change marks freely as well

green steppe
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Evidently I do plan on actually killing the videogame merchant, you're right.. I- I should.. Relax pleading

green steppe
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they'd find a way t omake it suck

fleet zealot
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guys

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we just got a really solid, havoc viable weapon

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sure psyker got force greatsword which is basically the best melee in the game right now

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but DAMN

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y'all salty

sullen forge
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Have you gotten to like 31+ yet?

dreamy wedge
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can someone help me

north sedge
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Can't believe they nerfed ogryn into the ground too though (lol)

desert spear
fleet zealot
desert spear
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the solution is not sucking

sullen forge
fleet zealot
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i'm just going to say no, some things are just going to fall off

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as you get higher

violet hornet
sullen forge
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You hit 30+ a lot of shit falls off

grave cypress
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Imagine not loving the elegance of the Devils Claw. Orcs know it as "The cuttah's" because of how much they fear them

violet hornet
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If they are having a good time, we must be having a shit time

fleet zealot
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like if you go wrathless vs 21st 30+ rank with relic blade

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you are going to have a bad time

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your sword even activated will basically always get stuck

desert spear
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I will beat havoc 40 with auspex bashing

fleet zealot
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and then there is shit like BM and deathblow that, just stops working if you can't hit breakpoints

misty nova
fleet zealot
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Pox hardened skin will push your ranged weapons to favor DoTs

green steppe
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a lot of them

hollow walrus
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What stat matters least on the purgation flamer?

misty ravine
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When they overhauled gear acquisition they had to leave one slot machine in, for nostalgia

hollow walrus
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really?

misty ravine
hollow walrus
misty ravine
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The real damage is from the fire dot (burn stat)

misty nova
hollow walrus
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just gotta know what to use lmao

misty nova
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Pretty sure flamer is the only weapon that can dump damage
Even Inferno got around dumping damage because of Blaze Away

fleet zealot
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that's cause psyker's dump warp resistance

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cause it's really easy to quell

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and building more peril is usually better

misty ravine
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And the Warp Resistance stat doesn't scale much anyways

hard nexus
hard nexus
royal vortex
misty ravine
hollow walrus
lean lark
placid fiber
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Man... I thought I was getting pretty powerful in rogue legacy 2... then I found I can upgrade stuff like... 6x as much as I had... x.x

fleet zealot
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i specified 21st

lean lark
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yeah

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overexaggerated

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wrath is good on 21st im not denying

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ive said it myself

tepid sorrel
hollow walrus
fleet zealot
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i can play this game for myself, I felt the weapon get stuck with rampage leakage

hollow walrus
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its up to you 😄

placid fiber
fleet zealot
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relic blade has great minimum damage and wrath basically stopped it from getting stuck, the difference was significant

lean lark
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are you mk2 or mk10 relic blade

placid fiber
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Yeah wrath is required on the relic blade for high havoc, from what I've heard

fleet zealot
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mk10

lean lark
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ok then you are justified to use it

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since lightspam is your horde clear

fleet zealot
raven swan
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I also tried it and it worked somehow

lean lark
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but leakage rampage works good regardless of marks

fleet zealot
tepid sorrel
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🤔

fleet zealot
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light spam is if elites are mixed in the horde

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so i stab them in their face

lean lark
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lightspam is always good

spare dome
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i just realized that there's an mkii and mkx of both relic blades and laspistols

lean lark
#

elites or not

spare dome
#

i can match ;o

tepid sorrel
#

im going to sleep

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good night

hollow walrus
#

Can I show anyone my build just to fine tune it?

fleet zealot
#

aight fair, but last 3 games i had a heavy aura oggy so i figured, might as well use h3+h4 for a bit

royal vortex
lean lark
tepid sorrel
royal vortex
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don't we all

lean lark
#

the strongest potion(build) seller(sharer)

tepid sorrel
#

yea 😦

raven swan
woeful pecan
#

What's the go-to flamer build for high havoc?

lean lark
lean lark
raven nacelle
lean lark
#

also small fyi primary attack of flamer is very useful if you're out of cover gunned down by enemies, it suppresses everything in a 20m range

copper hawk
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u can get away w overpressure blaze away flak unarmored

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dont dump mobility

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dump damage @woeful pecan

raven nacelle
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my horde clear bread and butter combo for Relic Blade Mk X is L1 > L2 > H3 > (Repeating L2 > H3)

copper hawk
#

it's not a meme in this one specific case

lean lark
#

thats fine

fleet zealot
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pop a red stim

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and watch the fire

hollow walrus
#

Am i able to show anyone my build on zealot so i can fine tune it?

raven nacelle
hollow walrus
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cheers

desert spear
fleet zealot
lean lark
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what melee weapon are you planning on running

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horde clear, antiarmor, boss dmg, any specific "traits" you're looking for?

fleet zealot
#

ew that chain axe

fleet zealot
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also why crit on flamer

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also take 5% toughness over sprint effic

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for curios

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too busy gaming to help the talents

hollow walrus
fleet zealot
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also what floor flames lolk

hollow walrus
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i have been misinformed.

fleet zealot
#

those are purely cosmetic

hollow walrus
#

maybe it is cosmetic

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oh well

hollow walrus
hollow walrus
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probably.

lean lark
#

@fleet zealot runs chainaxe, i dont, ask them for info on it

hollow walrus
#

gotcha

lean lark
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i was going to suggets hsword since you said horde/specials

hollow walrus
#

hmm

lean lark
#

this is what i would go for

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keep in mind i have a lot of playtime so it wont work perfectly for you like it would for me, feel free to edit as you wish

hollow walrus
#

why corruption or gunner res?

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are those more important during mael/hav

copper hawk
#

is this just like

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a build for havoc

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or just general gameplay

hollow walrus
#

cheers

copper hawk
#

if you use heavy sword i recommend this

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it's bog standard

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swap the bistol for like a bolter or something

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here's a more quirky one

hollow walrus
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I've only ever used thunder hammer lmao

copper hawk
hollow walrus
#

if i

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i just found this 1 sec

lean lark
# hollow walrus why corruption or gunner res?

Corruption res is generally one of the better options due to corruption being easily applicable by most melee enmejs, revive speed is a good alternative.
Essentially gunners are the most dangerous enemies, so gunner res renders them less of a threat

copper hawk
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yah

lean lark
#

You can also run 1 sniper res instead of the corruption

copper hawk
#

of the those, gunner res is probs the best one

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corruption resis doesn't apply all that often cuz only a handful of enemies can apply corruption damage

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although it's better in havoc

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but the higher in havoc you go you're gonna need gunner res and ur gonna be running beacon

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and you wont be using a thammer

hollow walrus
#

What do you recommend for something that can see me through all of havoc?

copper hawk
hollow walrus
lean lark
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from 16 to 40 my zealot has only ever used relic blade

copper hawk
#

it's the middle passive

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it removes corruption for you and allies in coherency over time

hollow walrus
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okay, thank you so much

copper hawk
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it's a hard requirement to have at least one beacon zealot in ur havoc lobby

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yah np

fleet zealot
#

wound zealot

red swift
fleet zealot
#

not running martyrdom

lean lark
fleet zealot
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i hate these randoms

lean lark
#

I don't use piety

red swift
lean lark
#

IoD is what again

red swift
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crit cdr

lean lark
#

Yeah on my damage build

red swift
#

hell yeah I switched to IoD IJ myself on relic, feels the best

lean lark
#

after they nerfed it to be balanced it's actually very good for chastise

hollow walrus
fleet zealot
lean lark
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200% faster ability cd for 4s on any crit gives you an effective 10s cd on chastise

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it's so good now for non-crit focused builds

desert spear
lean lark
#

bonus points since it gives you twbs utility regarding melee stuns

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so you have a free 3 points for your build

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to be even more diverse

fleet zealot
#

i mean buffed stalwart

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is also pretty good

inner mantle
#

he bois what are good blessing for a flamer on havoc?

raven nacelle
#

I will drop you my abomination of a build for my day-to-day zealot, gimme a minute

inner mantle
#

got this bad boi

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gona spuce it up

raven nacelle
lean lark
lean lark
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Also get a 60% mobility 80 in everything else flamer

red swift
lean lark
#

+cara is needed for guaranteed onemag kills on crushers

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you do roughly 80% of their health in hav40 with it which is very very valuable since your teams psyker/zealot/vet/ogryn whatever can finish them off very quickly (since you also applied brittleness to them)

fleet zealot
#

what's the good laspistol mark

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again

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(drain bamage)

red swift
#

I prio unyieling on flamer for bulwarks moslty a

misty ravine
#

Not the Kantrael MkX

red swift
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and bosses in chaotic hordes

fleet zealot
#

mk2?

lean lark
lean lark
copper hawk
#

put wrath and shred on it

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flak maniacs

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dump is mobility

misty nova
copper hawk
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also download keep swinging

fleet zealot
misty nova
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The fast pew pew one

raven nacelle
fleet zealot
#

ur noob coded

misty ravine
#

The real question is which laspistol doesn't fail hitreg on literally 1 in 4 shots

lean lark
#

My bad

lean lark
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Forgot I'm actually the worst darktide player

copper hawk
#

stamina and wound curios,,

lean lark
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😔

hollow walrus
copper hawk
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sure

spare talon
#

cica getting dms from a public server
shameless

copper hawk
#

lmfao

raven nacelle
copper hawk
#

u want 2 see an abomination ?

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ill show u an abomination..,

raven nacelle
copper hawk
#

feast ur eyes

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on my fav build,,

lean lark
# fleet zealot why should i beleive you dawn

mk10 loses ghost shenanigans due to slow firerate but you get tons of suppression and sniper/tox bomber oneshots(need to test tox bomber oneshots in 40, they were getting oneshot in 35s tho)

rocky nacelle
#

glub carrier

raven nacelle
lean lark
#

but you need to run unarmored/maniacs on it which is not going to help with scab gunner/reaper dmg at all

tight fog
#

lights out pox everywhere havok is miserable

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do missions reroll after a week?

polar nexus
misty mason
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I feel like I need to get used to a beacon chorus build for havoc

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Atm I'm thinking rashad revolver piety

tight fog
#

yeah

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which is a shame cause the beacon aura suuuucks

lean lark
misty mason
#

It's gonna feel so weird not having chastise tho

tight fog
#

it does

polar nexus
violet hornet
#

I debated running Rashad on havoc, seems like it would be a good fit. Idk how much mileage you'd get out of bm on havoc tho

lean lark
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piety isn't necessary for chorus, run backstab cdr

lean lark
#

If tac axe works in hav40 Rashad will definitely work too

violet hornet
copper hawk
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at high havoc it's os miserable

misty mason
#

Oh I've run rashad piety a lot, just usually with chastise

copper hawk
#

use the chord 13g

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w wrath and shred

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it'll go all the way to havor 40 and still do its job

lean lark
#

you're gonna need to stack damage buffs to reach bm breakpoints though

polar nexus
#

Tacaxe was struggling with some bps before. Nothing has changed for it chadgryn

misty nova
misty mason
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Oh no I hate chords lol

copper hawk
#

ur gonna have a bad time then

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only wpn that has all of what its got and can function

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that being shred and wrath

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for piety (left side) to work

violet hornet
#

I'd rather crush my own balls than run chord ill be honest

copper hawk
#

since u want to run stalwart for the tdr

lean lark
#

run relic blade

polar nexus
#

Run crusher

lean lark
#

there's plenty options

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hsword too

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Piety hsword gets armor dmg so it works out fine

violet hornet
#

I think the idea behind Rashad is you'd be killing single targets and armor with it, relying on immo nades, flamer, or teammates for horde clear

copper hawk
#

the rashad doesnt work at hav 40

polar nexus
#

But yeah chord is really nice

lean lark
copper hawk
#

and the hsword 9, at least, doesn't work very well at all at hav 40

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thinkin emoji is right

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if you run bm and hter on ur rashad u wont kill anything at hav 40 as zeal

violet hornet
#

Hsword 7 worked well enough for me

lean lark
#

So you either stack full dmg buffs to reach bm breakpoints or suffer

copper hawk
#

it takes two hits to kill one enemy

violet hornet
#

Altho I definitely wasn't getting the most out of deathblow on 40

copper hawk
#

which is fucking miserablle w the rashad

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miserable*

violet hornet
#

Hmm sounds like a skill issue cica

polar nexus
copper hawk
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aiming head level and swinging w bm and hter

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(there is none)

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if u want to maximize ur usefulness 2 ur team i would recommend not running a rashad

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it has massive issues at hav 40 with break points

buoyant pewter
#

What are suggested blerks and pessings for flamer and crusher

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I’m setting up my arsenal

copper hawk
buoyant pewter
#

And there’s no guide 😦

copper hawk
#

flak maniac

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dump mobility or defences, whatever it has

polar nexus
buoyant pewter
lean lark
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Think I'll try out my old hsword6 build for hav40 and see how it compares to chorus relic blade dmg

copper hawk
#

flamers ---> flak/unarmored flak/maniac flak/unyielding

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overpressure/blaze away

buoyant pewter
copper hawk
#

dump stat is damage

violet hornet
copper hawk
#

im too tired 2 parse sarcasm

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grr,,

polar nexus
buoyant pewter
buoyant pewter
desert spear
#

alright zealots should I start learning havoc once I can more consistently beat damnation auric missions without needing 150% focus

polar nexus
buoyant pewter
#

I meant like an overall guide

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For zealot

polar nexus
#

It's in the work

violet hornet
buoyant pewter
#

Shweet

lean lark
#

Don't rush to havoc

polar nexus
#

Also. 90% of what you'll find in the vet guide made by @sterile basalt is valid for zealots

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You can use this channel for the remaining 10

lean lark
#

Find out your preferred weapon, playstyle, build nodes and learn map layouts

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then tackle havoc

desert spear
#

I’m 50 hours in now and I’ve found multiple

copper hawk
#

the army doesnt

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zzz

lean lark
#

Havoc isn't time based (sorta) so just don't force yourself

polar nexus
#

Discover that after 2500 hours playing fotf you'll be playing chorus.

desert spear
#

it’s just a little worrisome cause I know I’ll get my ass beat, and the only way I can play havoc is by getting an LFG group

polar nexus
#

(or not and switch to vet like me)

desert spear
#

I don’t want to get shouted at for being shit lmfao

copper hawk
#

it's a game

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u wont will all duh time

lean lark
copper hawk
#

i first try'd my hav 40 mission and then failed the hav 37 i did w noobs afterwards

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u win and u lose

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such is Life

visual stream
#

NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE

#

EVERYTHING WILL GO WRONG

copper hawk
#

if u dont wanna lose ur havoc rankin i suggest findin some other gooner and joinin them

visual stream
#

Yeah just stick your toe in the water and learn at your own pace

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You won't get there if you never try

lean lark
#

havoc 20 until 25 is auric maelstorm difficulty

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after 25 it's above auric maelstorms

polar nexus
#

Nah hard disagree

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Everything is easier. Except the gunners

violet hornet
lean lark
violet hornet
#

Which is not so bad compared to how some communities react

desert spear
polar nexus
violet hornet
lean lark
#

which is completely normal

potent gate
#

@hard nexus hello, I summon.

I'm swapping from mk15 to mk2, tell me how to use (or point me to the correct set of posts to read)

(Horde clear is revved [h1 l2 l3 l4 h1]?

polar nexus
#

Also more bubbles and chorus

violet hornet
#

Definitely lost more 37-39s than 40s personally

polar nexus
#

I started during the beta

lean lark
#

I took a long break from darktide so I can formulate a proper viewpoint when looking at difficulty after just autopiloting auric maelstorms for 500 hours

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and also the game itself

polar nexus
#

The period between the first maels and the tree rework was something

violet hornet
#

It seemed like there was a bell curve of performance vs level for players where once they hit level 1200+ they started to perform more poorly on havoc because they couldn't break old bad habits from aurics

#

Too much diving / team splitting

lean lark
#

i remember being scared of burgled reapers like hell on the first ever auric maelstorm that was available with the modifier

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good times

polar nexus
lean lark
#

Thats the number one killer

violet hornet
lean lark
#

also what keet said

violet hornet
#

Turns out I am kinda bad with anything else

polar nexus
#

I tend to rotate between classes and build but my god I am so guilty of using high mobility weapons as a crutch

remote gyro
lean lark
#

I regularly swap between all 4 classes to keep a grounding on swapping playstyles and everyone's effectiveness

violet hornet
#

Just make sure it you wanna be a one trick you pick something off meta so it's more likely to get a pleasant surprise buff rather than a hobbling nerf

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hides hsword from fatshark

lean lark
polar nexus
# lean lark good times

My first Mael was after a bg3 break. Directly a trio in 3 veg with lights out. I. SHAT. MYSElF.

violet hornet
remote gyro
#

It’s legitimately insane how different parties on havoc are than they are in pubs.

lean lark
#

be happy it hasn't been nerfed yet

violet hornet
#

I don't really see many other hsword users and rarely hear builds including it

polar nexus
#

It was

lean lark
#

Meta isn't dictated by popularity

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It's about effectiveness (most effective tactic available)

violet hornet
#

Granted I didn't fuck with it until somewhat recently

lean lark
#

and hsword is still a very very effective weapon

polar nexus
#

Mostly before the tree rework and for a while after because you could abuse Crit CDR with it

violet hornet
#

Imo Rashad, mk3 knife, and chord4 were meta

lean lark
polar nexus
#

HSword bolter was peak zealot after mk3 Blade Crit zealot

desert spear
#

funny because I dislike duelling sword AND hsword

polar nexus
#

It was antax.

desert spear
#

they just don’t feel like they fit the nature of zealot, I like the big smashy weapons that make me feel cool

polar nexus
#

Then came the Rashad rework.

desert spear
#

okay, duelling sword is cool, I like the rapier from vermintide which is basically what it is

desert spear
#

but in vermintide

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it made sense

polar nexus
#

But HSword reigned supreme for a year

lean lark
#

Maybe like a year ago from now the rashad was one of the best weapons for zealot without any competition

desert spear
#

Why the fuck are you bringing

lean lark
#

Then hsword appeared

desert spear
#

these shitty little duelling swords

lean lark
#

Crusher got buffed

desert spear
#

into a hive city filled with cultist maniacs

lean lark
#

dueling sword exists

desert spear
#

who have guns

violet hornet
#

Rashad had some issues with deprioritizing weak points on launch iirc

lean lark
#

Heavy Rashad attacks dealing x0.5 maniac dmg

violet hornet
#

Rashad lights still doing crazy maniac damage whatthefuck_heresy

polar nexus
desert spear
#

question can a mf use Eviscerator in havoc it’s my comfort weapon

polar nexus
#

Then HSword got deathblow and could abuse Crit CDR

potent gate
violet hornet
remote gyro
#

Most weapons are viable

desert spear
#

very well

#

ill make a chorus eviscerator build for havoc

polar nexus
#

Feeding a loop of chastise / slice atoma in half / chastise

desert spear
#

what gun

remote gyro
#

Now if only helbore did decent damage while running vet

desert spear
#

chastise or chorus actually

lean lark
polar nexus
lean lark
#

your choice

polar nexus
#

Use chorus correctly

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Like don't wait for someone being down

remote gyro
#

Tbf party can smack things mid chorus

polar nexus
#

Be aggressive with it

desert spear
#

I know

#

I’ve had practice using it all day on my crusher build

#

for the untouchable operative penance

vague depot
#

What’s that again

desert spear
lean lark
#

10 missions in malice+ with no downs

vague depot
#

An

#

Ah ok

polar nexus
#

I still don't have it 😦

lean lark
#

I'm thinking of a different one

desert spear
#

just can’t die

plush nova
#

Yall is fines more important then damage?

polar nexus
#

No

lean lark
#

both equally as important

#

mobility/defences dump immediately

desert spear
#

what ranged weapon

#

should I use

#

For the havoc build

#

I like bolt pistol a lot but idk if it’s viable

polar nexus
#

On any weapon that has finesse, DMG, first target, penetration you want the want the max

lean lark
#

flamer/laspistol/bolt pistol/revolver/vraksmk7/Agri brauto

#

those are good options

polar nexus
#

No bolter in havoc 30+

#

?

violet hornet
plush nova
#

So damage first

violet hornet
#

🤔

lean lark
desert spear
#

I like bolter and all it’s just

lean lark
#

but bolter is also very good

desert spear
#

I can’t fw it due to the slow draw and reload

lean lark
polar nexus
visual stream
desert spear
lean lark
#

then it shouldn't be a big problem

visual stream
#

And I'm not sure if you used it since the buff but that was buffed

desert spear
#

yeah it’s just

polar nexus
#

Man that bug was a godsend for some weapons whatthefuck_heresy

desert spear
#

I have to do that EVERYTIME

violet hornet
desert spear
#

I like bolt pistol cause you can urgently pull it out, blast something then put it away again

lean lark
#

they should bring back the thrust bug tbh

desert spear
#

remember switching to your bolt pistol is faster than meleeing

polar nexus
#

Well less armored enemies, less hp and a bolter. You sliced entire hordes with it.

violet hornet
desert spear
lean lark