Running Relic Blade and bolter. Is this build ruined if I start running chorus over FOTF? I feel like chorus would help a lot in havoc, and hopefully save me from decisions made by my lessers
#zealot-class
buoyant pewter
grizzled aspen
Running Relic Blade and bolter. Is this build ruined if I start running chorus o...
Drop purge and anoint for twbs, relic blade is one of the few weapons you should absolutely have it on.
misty mason
Yeah swap out the top middle 2 points for thy wrath be swift
grizzled aspen
I would also switch piety over to stalwart to save a point and grab good balance.
misty ravine
Since you're a two handed weapon enjoyer, I'd take TWBS on any slow or Power or Chain weapon
grizzled aspen
Like, changing over to chorus?
buoyant pewter
Like, changing over to chorus?
Yes
grizzled aspen
You do need it for melee stun immunity on slower weapons.
buoyant pewter
Since you're a two handed weapon enjoyer, I'd take TWBS on any slow or Power or ...
Thanks for the tip 🫡
grizzled aspen
Relic blade being combo oriented and all that.
red swift
its fine for relic blade regardless imo
woeful oyster
Idk what it is but tonight has been the hands down worst night for havoc using the party finder.
grizzled aspen
Yes
Then you switch to stalwart on piety and instead of putting that point you save into good balance, you swap to chorus.
buoyant pewter
Then you switch to stalwart on piety and instead of putting that point you save ...
Okay thanks 🫡
grizzled aspen
It enrages me every time I remember that chorus has a mandatory point tax.
buoyant pewter
If I take chorus, do I need UD / HR? Cuz I could take beacon which would be nice
grizzled aspen
Depends, are you running havocs with this?
buoyant pewter
Yes
grizzled aspen
Then yeah, you could run beacon instead of UD/HR.
buoyant pewter
Bet, thanks
grizzled aspen
Path through soc.
buoyant pewter
I’m assuming I should probably take the TDR on chorus
woeful oyster
Zealots without beacon on blight missions…smh
buoyant pewter
Then yeah, you could run beacon instead of UD/HR.
I have one point left. Should I take good balance or UD
zinc talon
Your nightly Quality of Life PSA:
buoyant pewter
I’ll show what I have rn
obsidian prairie
Your nightly Quality of Life PSA:
That still does HP damage though right
grizzled aspen
You should have 2 points?
grizzled aspen
Blocking a crusher overhead absolutely deals hp damage.
obsidian prairie
Turn your invincibility off
zinc talon
don't wanna be giving out bad info, but this works as advertised on the slab shield so I thought
k 1sec
grizzled aspen
And you have a point left over?
buoyant pewter
Yes
grizzled aspen
Well, actually, you can do that because this is for havocs.
If this was for normal stuff you could save that point for something else.
Anyway, with havocs in mind and having only one point left, keep your chorus aux node and take good balance with your leftover point.
OR
Because I just noticed.
Drop your chorus aux node and take sustained assault.
(this is the better option)
buoyant pewter
Consider it done 🫡 thanks for the help
violet hornet
played long enough to memory leak crash twice
I can feel my body deteriorating
took a razer basilisk mouse from 71 to 11 % to do it lmao
grizzled aspen
What do we even call those things that are on the outside of the portrait?
hoary owl
Relic Blade + Flamer + Chorus build. What nodes?
violet hornet
What do we even call those things that are on the outside of the portrait?
Insignia?
grizzled aspen
Relic Blade + Flamer + Chorus build. What nodes?
Look at what Luther just posted above, drop the chorus aux node and take sustained assault.
rocky nacelle
need more inquisitor martyr type insignias
violet hornet
Look at what Luther just posted above, drop the chorus aux node and take sustain...
I dropped it for the attack speed one
violet hornet
but sustained is good too
violet hornet
I mean, is that what the game calls it?
yep
grizzled aspen
No, I didn't.
zinc talon
so standard enemies, no issues
ragers, no issues, except you'll always get hit on the second attack
onto maulers and crushers
rocky nacelle
could you not block the first and activate on the 2nd swing
zinc talon
lemme tell you about The Humbling
when the game first debuted and creature spawner finally came out
I was all about the deflector force sword
so I test and I test, and I spawn snipers
with invincibility on
I think, goddamn I'm bulletproof
so I go to show my friends next mission
and in front of the entire squad, I tell them to watch this
step out in front of a sniper
and get absolutely domed in front of everybody
rocky nacelle
pride before the fall
grizzled aspen
Hilarious.
haughty haven
jesus knife is ridiculous
opal star
fall before the fall (I am very clumsy)
urban sundial
SHOUTY can i have some money?
echo breach
jesus knife is ridiculous
It's called a jesus knife for a reason
grizzled aspen
What did you spend it on, Slab?
haughty haven
shit is gonna be expensive
urban sundial
....stuuufff
grizzled aspen
Slab, did you buy 500 kickbacks again?
urban sundial
no i didnt shouty i only bought 100!
haughty haven
It's called a jesus knife for a reason
it's so... low effort lol
urban sundial
i ask spark heads for money now shouty
grizzled aspen
I believe, for once, the freaks may be right...
acoustic briar
perks/blessings for flamer?
grizzled aspen
@hard nexus flamer thingy because every time I open my mouth about flamer I'm told I'm an idiot.
copper hawk
perks/blessings for flamer?
flak/unarmored, flak/maniac, flak/unyielding
overpressure/blaze away
dump stat is damage
copper hawk
damage on the flamer dictates first target damage
the difference between the damage to this first target hit in a gout of flames is less than 1.3
the damage the flamer does is stacks of Burn, which deals DoT
the only stat that matters is Burn, which must be at least 76% in order to get all the stacks of burn
Damage does not affect damage dealt over time
why? 
hotel? trivago
next timber
copper hawk
unfortunately the noob helpers r all asleep atm
try pinging ainz
they're asleep tho
rocky nacelle
<@265332960792805378> flamer thingy because every time I open my mouth about fla...
you're an idiot
grizzled aspen
you're an idiot
Yup, it tracks.
unique elbow
I kinda like mkII relic blade tbqh
unique elbow
Mozzarella sticks
they're all right
unique elbow
Mozzarella sticks are a gift from god
Mozzarella sticks are an expression of man's will to carbs, fat, and marinara dip. God could never.
grizzled aspen
Blocked messages in this channel can only mean supreme stupidity is afoot.
slate haven
Stay mad French boy 😘
zinc talon
OKAY SO THE LAST MISSION
caps
new* mission
the first time I ever run it
we get a BURSTER during a CUTSCENE
whole team half health
so I think okay one time thing
THE SECOND TIME I RUN IT
grizzled aspen
Yup, that happened to me the other day.
zinc talon
slate haven
I may not be Irish, but the IRA is tight
grizzled aspen
Or however long the cutscene takes.
echo breach
This is just comically funny
zinc talon
yeah after the fact it's hilarious
slate haven
slate haven
Accurate ^^
slate haven
Real
zinc talon
This is just comically funny
you can very faintly hear the burster arm itself in the distance at the beginning
or did I mute it....?
misty mason
Flak elites for purgatus?
haughty haven
Fellas should I rebrand my account
just sell it tbh
pliant oasis
Am I going crazy or the game doesn't let you play as zealot specifically, giving countless 3013 errors while on other classes it's just 1-2 times and then you're in the hub?
slate haven
just sell it tbh
Gotta wait for the profit sharing gobblegum that way the homies get a bit too
tepid sorrel
w
tepid sorrel
thanks baz ur a real one
tepid sorrel
fuck Epic Cole Perry ! !!!
i hate him so much i hate cole i hate
i hate brick walls!!!!
ok lets play darktide
spare talon
we need to explode ancient with like a bajillion acme looney toons dynamite sticks
zinc talon
tepid sorrel
we need to immolate me i'm freezing my ass off here cole
zinc talon
spare talon
we need to immolate me i'm freezing my ass off here cole
cannot relate
its finally a temperature where i can wear a light jacket
spare talon
i do too
zinc talon
It was 81 degrees this afternoon in dallas
spare talon
id love that
haughty haven
i love the cold
tepid sorrel
come join me it's below freezing rn
leaden pebble
fuckin hate michigan weather
tepid sorrel
8c but raining
haughty haven
it'll get to the -30 range before end of winter
zinc talon
I refuse to live somewhere the air hurts my face
leaden pebble
super hot humid summers
below freezing winters
got the worst of both worlds
tepid sorrel
i want to hurt your face (with the air)
tepid sorrel
super hot humid summers
below freezing winters
got the worst of both worlds
south carolina also be like
but only for one month
at best.
raw bloom
whats the difference between ironhelm and crucis?
zinc talon
Iron helm is cleavier
zinc talon
Crucis is push funny button and bonk
tepid sorrel
healthily driven but not a daily driver
zinc talon
Yeah super impressive
tepid sorrel
i love to see it
slate haven
Them 80s-90s wedge shaped cars dude 😮💨👌
zinc talon
If i ever see a gen 4 supra or late 90s 3000gt vr4 like that now that I have meme tier money....
slate haven
Dude the millisec I see a 1st gen WRX anywhere in the states
I’m like super big into rally but I live in the US so no cool rally cars for us
No Audi quattro
No lancia
We get Subaru tho
zinc talon
I have to stop myself about once a month from looking up r34's for sale in the states
slate haven
Real
zinc talon
Converting the wheel over would be such a goddamn ordeal tho
slate haven
Nah but like I have a 2016 Impreza and the pressure is way too high to throw a turbo in there so I’m looking into engine swaps, think I should go with another flat 4 or like a rotary?
I know rotaries are only good for like 100k miles or so tho
tepid sorrel
emperor blessed me with another easy run thank u darktide
zinc talon
I'm sure someone makes flipped parts for a left hand drive skyline but they could write the own checks for how much it'd cost to get the entire interior replaced
slate haven
Dude I’m gonna keep it real, the only reason I’m remotely into that 300ZX is bc it kinda sorta looks like a c4 corvette
I’m not big into JDM other than Subaru
zinc talon
Nah but like I have a 2016 Impreza and the pressure is way too high to throw a t...
Yeah Japanese cars went compression ratio instead of turbos cuz they thought Americans wouldn't want unfamiliar turbocharging systems
Since everything before that was naturally aspirated or belt fed supers
autumn vector
sigh what even is that
slate haven
They twincharged them by default 🤯
autumn vector
dueling sword for days
slate haven
They twincharged them by default 🤯
Imagine bob in the 80s getting a wacky new Japanese car and it’s super and turbo’d
zinc talon
sigh what even is that
Are you asking what a Bofadeez is
slate haven
Bob would be happy
zinc talon
Hell both?
zinc talon
I guess you could have a belt driven super for immediate low end feeding a gigantic turbo that only feeds the high end
zinc talon
Might not even need to feed the turbo the exhaust gases at that point
Just go straight fan belt to super directly into the turbo
slate haven
Dude the 84 Lancia Delta was twincharged stock
And that thing
It sounds so cool bro
zinc talon
Gonna look it up
I finally finally finally scratched my turbo itch with my newest car
Got the last year model that BMW still put manual transmissions in an m3
All Ms are automatic from 2024 on
autumn vector
They should just add power dueling sword at this point
zinc talon
Been simping on forced induction for decades, never imagined I'd have a twin turbo inline 6 myself
Much less an m3
zinc talon
And honestly I love the turbos coming online in that thing
My z06 is supercharged and it's just fuck you fast all the time
Wouldn't even know it was forced its so instant on
slate haven
If only we had the autobahn type beat
And could just flat out I64
Like kiddos buckle in we got 700hp and we’re using all 700 to get to gamgam’s in time for thanksgiving football
zinc talon
zinc talon
Heh life is strange like that, always thought the same thing too
You'll get there I'm sure
slate haven
Going into industrial electrical work straight outta hs and I’ve heard it’s good pay, specially out in Kentucky and Georgia and shit
Gotta buddy that does it and god damn bro
He has like 6 cars
zinc talon
I went from never filing taxes from 16 to 35 because I never made the minimum taxable income
To retiring before I was 40
zinc talon
Going into industrial electrical work straight outta hs and I’ve heard it’s good...
Like a journeyman style professional degree?
zinc talon
Oh right on, do it dude
zinc talon
America made a bit of a mistake telling everyone just go to college bro you can be whatever you want
Which yeah, true, but the world only needs so many museum curators
sterile stone
America made a bit of a mistake telling everyone just go to college bro you can ...
Go into crippling debt trying to get a job to hopefully pay off that crippling debt
zinc talon
There's solid upper middle class careers in plumbing, electrical, all sorts of other vocations
opal star
emphasis on the "trying to get a job" part
lean fern
fucking love the 300zx
zinc talon
And we brushed that under the rug to our detriment
The world's never gonna stop needing electricians yknow
lean fern
until we run out of electricity bro
sterile stone
The world's never gonna stop needing electricians yknow
It's the menial jobs that no one wants to do that pays the most
slate haven
fucking love the 300zx
I have no idea if you’ll get the reference but I thought your profile was from that one Whitest Kids You Know anarchist sketch 💀
zinc talon
And linesmen rigging up power lines and roughnecks drilling for oil clear six figures without breaking a sweat
sterile stone
Yeah
zinc talon
Good, needed, honest work using your hands
sterile stone
Working in oil is absolutely great if you have no college education
slate haven
I dunno bro I’m pretty sure those oil drillers like die on rigs
sterile stone
Shit pays dividens
lean fern
I have no idea if you’ll get the reference but I thought your profile was from t...
nah idk its just from some yt video "chechen war footage"
slate haven
nah idk its just from some yt video "chechen war footage"
Damn
zinc talon
I dunno bro I’m pretty sure those oil drillers like die on rigs
They can, sure, its dangerous work
sterile stone
I dunno bro I’m pretty sure those oil drillers like die on rigs
The most dangerous jobs pay well for a reason
zinc talon
And it sucks, and it's hot, and it's strenuous, and you're kept on site for weeks to months at a time
slate haven
The most dangerous jobs pay well for a reason
Ik was just bringing it up
lean fern
soldiers dont make an wful lot
zinc talon
But every month you see that paycheck for nine to twelve grand hit your account like clockwork
And you have several months a year you aren't working if you hash out the on/off site time
For some people it's ideal
zinc talon
Yep
lean fern
But every month you see that paycheck for nine to twelve grand hit your account ...
then spend that shit on guns and boats and possibly crack
slate haven
Crack my beloved
lean fern
and child support
zinc talon
then spend that shit on guns and boats and possibly crack
Heh I had a guy once say to me, yknow I used to have a huge cocaine problem, but thankfully now I make enough money
lean fern
hell yeah
slate haven
Bro is the mypillow guy
💀
Nah but fr it’s 1 am and I already pissed off frogcast and talked about cars so I don’t really have anything else to do
And I’m kinda tired
So ima call it a night
Good talkin to yall tho
Gnight
zinc talon
night buddy
tepid sorrel
I have no idea if you’ll get the reference but I thought your profile was from t...
Yeah!!!!!!!!! The revolution is complete!
sterile stone
Yeah I’ve heard lots of dudes do like 3 months on 9 months off
Guy me mum use to fancy did this
He almost put me on off shore oil
Woulda been making fat money
Only downside is
I'd be stuck on a giant metal platform on the coast for 3 months
woeful oyster
How much harder does havoc get from 25 to 40?
tepid sorrel
🙂
woeful oyster
Fuck me
viral hare
How much harder does havoc get from 25 to 40?
havoc feels like it scales exponentially
40 is rough
tepid sorrel
not exponentially
viral hare
to put it as lightly as possible
tepid sorrel
lots of things keep going up but not -that- drastic
woeful oyster
I mean
viral hare
not exponentially
notice how i said feels
woeful oyster
I just beat 25 in party finder
No smite and had a pet ogryn
So without the ogryn
And with double chorus or shout
I think it would be rough but doable
tepid sorrel
i mean it's entirely doable with or without cheese
viral hare
i dont think 40 is as terrifying as people say but you cant just saunter through it
lean lark
Shut up noob playtester.
tepid sorrel
shut up dawn priest!! i hate dawn priest. ihate. Dawn Priest
lean lark
So fucking bad. It's the worst playtester I've ever seen. Never before.
sterile stone
i dont think 40 is as terrifying as people say but you cant just saunter through...
Completed a 40 on the most dog shit map in the havoc rotation
tepid sorrel
just like darcy fr 😦
sterile stone
And yeah
lean lark
the jump from 20 to 21 is bigger than 30 to 40
sterile stone
It's mostly just taking engagments in controlled enviorments
woeful oyster
Completed a 40 on the most dog shit map in the havoc rotation
Vigil station?
sterile stone
Don't rush head first into everything
tepid sorrel
like, it's pretty bad to have clandestium gloriana as ur 40 but if you're not dumb as bricks
sterile stone
Vigil station?
Gloriana
tepid sorrel
it'll be fiiine
viral hare
Completed a 40 on the most dog shit map in the havoc rotation
did my first 40 on the snow map and the first 10% of the map sucks lmao
sterile stone
tepid sorrel
gloriana is the statistically hardest map in darktide
sterile stone
Yeah the first event zone for gloriana is a slog, but if you get pass gloridana's first zone
viral hare
i genuinely think its not bad past the first two zones
sterile stone
It genuienly becomes alot less stressful
tepid sorrel
that first event is just a fucking killer
woeful oyster
Is Hab Dreyko in the rotation 
viral hare
its just those first 2 areas are bs
lean lark
gloriana is the statistically hardest map in darktide
Hab dreyko with no tension
tepid sorrel
honestly there's 4 areas that are really bad
tepid sorrel
Hab dreyko with no tension
purgatus + trauma
sterile stone
i genuinely think its not bad past the first two zones
tepid sorrel
honestly there's 4 areas that are really bad
and they're back to fucking back
and then it calms down
sterile stone
Once you get through the dog shit first part of gloriana
It really isn't so bad
It's just that open area with gunners and reapers everywhere
Especially ragers spearheading pushes
It's rough if you don't have consisten CC
lean lark
there should be penances for killing demon hosts in havoc 35+
viral hare
imo hard mode twins was harder and took more coordination than havoc 40 i feels
tepid sorrel
i simply push it off the ledge
lament blaze
Does the special attack for the rashad see much use?
tepid sorrel
imo hard mode twins was harder and took more coordination than havoc 40 i feels
go play hardmode twins again and tell me if u still think that's the case lmfao
lean lark
Does the special attack for the rashad see much use?
no it's very bad
sterile stone
imo hard mode twins was harder and took more coordination than havoc 40 i feels
There's alot of factors.
viral hare
go play hardmode twins again and tell me if u still think that's the case lmfao
maybe, its been a whiiiile
sterile stone
You gotta remember, you can get really really unlucky and get shitty modifiers
tepid sorrel
i went back to it the other day before i started grinding out my live havocs and it's a night-and-day difference
sterile stone
And spawns
viral hare
like 300 hours ago
tepid sorrel
but like every other part of this game
lament blaze
no it's very bad
thats what i thought.. i can move that binding then!
tepid sorrel
it can all go bad very quickly over one little thing
plush estuary
🤨 twins... difficult?
lament blaze
since the bolt pistol also has a pretty useless special
tepid sorrel
🤨 twins... difficult?
i can see it with randoms
plush estuary
Did you see
viral hare
the secret hard mode twins not the normal damnation twins
plush estuary
They nerfed the fight
tepid sorrel
yeah they did
viral hare
did they reallly damn
sterile stone
Wait what
plush estuary
Tf
lean lark
wait what
plush estuary
Made me mad
lament blaze
when did they nerf the fight?
copper hawk
i first try'd havoc 40
plush estuary
You can rescue now
copper hawk
w randoms
plush estuary
The jail cell is open
tepid sorrel
the cell is open yeah
copper hawk
viral hare
The jail cell is open
BRUH
sterile stone
The jail cell is open
You're fucking with me
lean lark
nvm fatshark sucks
tepid sorrel
so you arent perma-dead
copper hawk
im a coole kidde naow,,
lean lark
I take back all my good words about it after havoc
viral hare
im a coole kidde naow,,
now do true survivor
sterile stone
now do true survivor
I really fucking fucking hate how True Survivor it tied to your team
And not you specifically
copper hawk
now do true survivor
which 1 is that
sterile stone
Like I've done 3 havoc 35+ with no downs
viral hare
which 1 is that
35+ without downs lmao
tepid sorrel
the team who thrives together gets a penance together
sterile stone
And gotten fucked because a psyker thought it was a good idea to charge a horde of ragers
vale carbon
They nerfed the fight
nerfed how?
lean lark
And gotten fucked because a psyker thought it was a good idea to charge a horde ...
trust the process.
tepid sorrel
you see that rager horde? i'm gonna kill them.
viral hare
the "i have friends who are also dt sweats" penance
plush estuary
nerfed how?
The rescue room is now open in hard mode
sterile stone
the "i have friends who are also dt sweats" penance
You can do it with randoms
Cole did it
rocky nacelle
The rescue room is now open in hard mode
gross
lunar fable
The rescue room is now open in hard mode
bruhhh
viral hare
You can do it with randoms
you can also gamble and win big sometimes but im not boutta do that
tepid sorrel
i love gambling
vale carbon
The rescue room is now open in hard mode
i don't think that helps much when it throws 20 ragers at you every minute
sterile stone
you can also gamble and win big sometimes but im not boutta do that
I've only encountered a singular level 1500+ psyker
viral hare
fun fact: 99% of gamblers quit before hitting it big
plush estuary
i don't think that helps much when it throws 20 ragers at you every minute
Stealth
Agro change
sterile stone
But then again I guess true survivor could be gotten easily if everyone just protected the guy who wanted it
Have them just sit back
viral hare
But then again I guess true survivor could be gotten easily if everyone just pro...
its based on team downs aint it
sterile stone
Yep
tepid sorrel
the best part about true survivor is that you can't carry people through it
viral hare
so everyones gotta not get downed
sterile stone
the best part about true survivor is that you can't carry people through it
That's the thing
Like you can carry someone through havoc forged, you can even let them join at the tail end of a mission on havoc
tepid sorrel
argus i'm 85% certain
that this is because of
the temporary 9999 fix
because this wasn't possible before that
lol
sterile stone
I'm still upset
tepid sorrel
i would rather have temporary cheese
sterile stone
And I won't be happy til I get that damn penance
tepid sorrel
than an unplayable gamemode
tepid sorrel
ok let's play darktide and get true survivor on live together
viral hare
i need a break from running havoc 1-10s constantly for the new armor penances
sterile stone
I'm 10 off
woeful oyster
I wish Dukane had never fucking come to the mourningstar
viral hare
i have become the person i always used to hate
the dude that just runs ahead and pings elevators
tepid sorrel
i can see the elevator with mine eyes
sterile stone
Mein eyes
lunar fable
i do not like the people who ping shit that i'm about to deal with
viral hare
we all know where the elevator is why ping it
listen man as much as i wanna tab out and watch a youtube video while youre killing 4 scab gunners over there i wanna play the video game
lunar fable
those guys are annoying
empty python
lmao, shock and awe on thammer is so good on Havoc 40 xD, I cleaved through big hordes of Moebian 21st withe ase
sterile stone
i do not like the people who ping shit that i'm about to deal with
You're lucky you never got the curse of Evan
empty python
who would've thought shock and awe is amazing for havocs
vale carbon
lmao, shock and awe on thammer is so good on Havoc 40 xD, I cleaved through big ...
i thought that blessign is doodoo
lunar fable
You're lucky you never got the curse of Evan
who's that 
empty python
i thought that blessign is doodoo
yeah but hitmass on high havocs is a big issue, and that helps with that a lot
tepid sorrel
it's Evan.
sterile stone
who's that <:Cluegi:1197779121292464178>
A diety of evil proportions
tepid sorrel
the main protagonist of darktide
viral hare
john darktide
empty python
i thought that blessign is doodoo
a lot of blessigns and weaposn deemed bad in normal games, are good for havocs appaerently
tepid sorrel
Evan
lunar fable
you mean antagonist
tepid sorrel
no he was on our team
lunar fable
the secret boss of wolfer
tepid sorrel
the most polite man i've ever seen in darktide
sterile stone
a lot of blessigns and weaposn deemed bad in normal games, are good for havocs a...
Cleave and Crowd Control baby
That's the name of the game for havoc
rocky nacelle
havoc time
empty python
Cleave and Crowd Control baby
yeah. shock&awe goes crazy, without it, thammer gets stopped dead in 21st moebian horde a lot xD
rocky nacelle
tepid sorrel
on this, the day of my daughter's wedding
tepid sorrel
a lot of blessigns and weaposn deemed bad in normal games, are good for havocs a...
this has a lot to do with the normal game being piss-easy and watered down with numerous options available to render it completely pointless
empty python
this has a lot to do with the normal game being piss-easy and watered down with ...
I mena normal games as in like auric maelstroms even, but even then it's completely fundamentally-different than havoc 35+
viral hare
defensive options are not as viable in base game because offensive options let you not have to care about playing with the team, havoc kinda forces you to play with your team, and use defensive options
tepid sorrel
I mena normal games as in like auric maelstroms even, but even then it's complet...
yes i'm talking about aurics
lean lark
shock&awe meta is real in 2024 darktide....
tepid sorrel
a lot of enemies just don't matter when you can delete them in half a second
viral hare
if yall have ever played payday 2 during the peak of the bow meta when one down released, havoc should feel familiar lmao
sterile stone
if yall have ever played payday 2 during the peak of the bow meta when one down ...
Now that I think on it
misty ravine
I do remember One Down release
sterile stone
I think it was Dallas' skill tree that had swan song
misty ravine
Textbook example of extreme difficulty forcing extremely narrow meta, though it did get better later
viral hare
Textbook example of extreme difficulty forcing extremely narrow meta, though it ...
^^^
misty ravine
Ironically Havoc with yellow toughness sorta feels like payday 2 armor gating
delicate shadow
wait when the hell did they do that lmao
plush estuary
Yes
plush estuary
wait when the hell did they do that lmao
Havoc release
viral hare
when enemies and missions get tanky and dangerous enough, people tend to prioritize weird shit that usually isnt used in normal games
delicate shadow
bruh
sterile stone
Ironically Havoc with yellow toughness sorta feels like payday 2 armor gating
Sociopath build
plush estuary
I've done twins everyday and just noticed it on the day of the update
plush estuary
I was so confused
delicate shadow
why would they nerf it lmao
misty ravine
when enemies and missions get tanky and dangerous enough, people tend to priorit...
They also had to do some cheesy things like Swan Song + Get The Fuck Up abuse just to get objectives done
delicate shadow
very silly
plush estuary
Fatshark
spare talon
it was already a joke of a hard mode 
sterile stone
why would they nerf it lmao
User friendly maybe
misty ravine
Because maps weren't designed for enemies that did that much damage with no falloff
Funny thing is, depending on the player's PC, the biggest difficulty boost in Payday 2 might have been the engine optimization that made cops way faster and more aggressive
viral hare
Because maps weren't designed for enemies that did that much damage with no fall...
mfw goat heist, bomb forest, meltdown OD
frosty herald
I did twins with vic 3 times before figuring out flesh wound is based on wounds rather than health
misty ravine
If you were on an absolute toaster, or underclocked your CPU, cops would literally take several minutes to move through the map, and would take several full seconds to react when you ran in front of them
frosty herald
So my dumbass used a martyr build
misty ravine
Until they sorted that out
delicate shadow
>mfw goat heist, bomb forest, meltdown OD
meltdown wasn't toooo bad but goat and bomb were absolute hell for sure
the fuckin' farm one they added a year or two ago was also pretty gross
misty ravine
>mfw goat heist, bomb forest, meltdown OD
Bomb Forest was the one that took me longest on OD by far
viral hare
meltdown wasn't toooo bad but goat and bomb were absolute hell for sure
i have ptsd breaking my ankles rolling down the bomb forest hill
delicate shadow
yeah bomb forest may well be the hardest one
hard nexus
it was already a joke of a hard mode <:fumble:918034053586894868>
i remember when it was actually difficult
tepid sorrel
i love stealth cheese! i love stealth cheese! i love stealth cheese!
hard nexus
delicate shadow
i love stealth cheese! i love stealth cheese! i love stealth cheese!
I'm more of a camembert guy myself
also enjoy a nice brie
tepid sorrel
have you thought about crushing my skull with a hammer
delicate shadow
hell yea
viral hare
stick o' cheese aquired
modern lintel
the rothschilds planting string cheese adverts to fool me into buying more
viral hare
yall pull apart your string cheese or do you just go at it
delicate shadow
next jacinth
guys is chainsword or dueling sword better vs the mauler/crusher/bulwark affix auric maelstrom
modern lintel
yall pull apart your string cheese or do you just go at it
mash it still in tube then raw dog it
viral hare
mash it still in tube then raw dog it
this might be the worst answer
tepid sorrel
i just go aat it
delicate shadow
guys is chainsword or dueling sword better vs the mauler/crusher/bulwark affix a...
dueling sword is by far the most busted melee in the game so that
tepid sorrel
i just take a big fucking bite
sterile stone
the rothschilds planting string cheese adverts to fool me into buying more
Big cheese cornering the market
plush estuary
Dip it in mustard
viral hare
the mf suits at big cheese
tepid sorrel
the only time i would do that is if i dont have real fresh mozzarella and i want it on a sandwich
modern lintel
who pulls apart their string cheese
i bet you eat then in one bite smh
lunar fable
that's a bit freaky
viral hare
i put two in my mouth and pretend im a walrus
tepid sorrel
that's more fucked up than just pulling it apart
sterile stone
Brother has no gag reflex
delicate shadow
slorping it down
modern lintel
that's a bit freaky
lack of denial is crazy work
viral hare
Brother has no gag reflex
lunar fable
modern lintel
sterile stone
https://tenor.com/view/hot-dogs-spit-whole-hotdog-funny-hotdog-guy-gif-14269347
I coulda retired at the ripe age of 60
And been fine not knowing this existed
modern lintel
https://tenor.com/view/hot-dogs-spit-whole-hotdog-funny-hotdog-guy-gif-14269347
you think it was just the one or hes got them loaded like shells in a shotgun tube
sterile stone
you think it was just the one or hes got them loaded like shells in a shotgun tu...
STOP
viral hare
i mean logistically it would make sense to carry more just in case
viral hare
(actually do this)
sterile stone
Could you imagine the horror on someone's face
You're out in the woods
Starving to death
And the guy next to you just pull one these numbers
delicate shadow
the tactical hot dog ration
hard nexus
And the guy next to you just pull one these numbers
like a baby bird
“here let’s kiss”
what would u do if u were making out with someone and they did that
hotdog straight down ur throat
viral hare
the tactical hot dog ration
he only does it half way then you share it with him lady and the tramp style
modern lintel
like a baby bird
now your just in a freakoff with a statement like that
delicate shadow
this might be the most cursed zealot chat has gotten
tepid sorrel
Diddy, no!
echo breach
Each day we stray further from the master of mankind
viral hare
hey man i dont come here often
sterile stone
My request got declined to join a havoc 1
delicate shadow
actually that's a lie this is pretty much tame compared to the worst zelchat has gotten
sterile stone
I'm washed
viral hare
i gotta do my sunday night best
delicate shadow
how the hell are there people even in havoc 1?
modern lintel
this might be the most cursed zealot chat has gotten
this simply the only time a mods been around to witness it get this low its gotten lower
plush estuary
Too much tomfoolery
sterile stone
No idea
lean lark
how the hell are there people even in havoc 1?
they did a normal maelstorm
sterile stone
It was 3 stack of veterans in havoc 1
delicate shadow
that's rough man
echo breach
how the hell are there people even in havoc 1?
I played havoc once and didn't play anymore
lean lark
or somehow deranked enough from hav 10
echo breach
Never done auric maelstrom so didn't start at 16
tepid sorrel
how the hell are there people even in havoc 1?
they literally just did a normal maelstrom and its their first maelstrom 🙂
lean lark
honestly that would be speedrun starts for penances
tepid sorrel
first havoc 🙂
echo breach
they literally just did a normal maelstrom and its their first maelstrom 🙂
Literally me :3
delicate shadow
right I forgot the system is stupid
viral hare
are you able to play lower havocs if youre ranked highly without joining someone else
tepid sorrel
yeah incan the system is stupid
tepid sorrel
are you able to play lower havocs if youre ranked highly without joining someone...
no 🙂
viral hare
😦
lean lark
2 people just disconnecting after starting a havoc and deranking to 1 then duoing to 20 and repeat
tepid sorrel
i love penances i love penances
viral hare
so TIL that the havoc penances are under a time limit
lunar fable
wat
tepid sorrel
no?
lean lark
not me I'm built different
delicate shadow
nah people will keep playing 40 because it'll be the only way to feel alive any more
lean lark
I'm going to be pfinder only hav40's at least once a week
viral hare
fair
tepid sorrel
exactly
lean lark
One hav40 a week keeps the washed allegations away
modern lintel
not necessarily theirs a lot of penances based off how many youv played compared to how high youve gotten
tepid sorrel
i dont enjoy the rest of darktide anymore
sterile stone
when they hit 40 lmao
The most egregious shit is the 20 weekly supply crates penance
viral hare
The most egregious shit is the 20 weekly supply crates penance
b r o
plush estuary
Buh?
lean lark
Mental gonorrhea
sterile stone
So the earliest you can get the insignia for 20 weekly crates is next year
That's so fucked
modern lintel
140 days
delicate shadow
I mean the simple solution to that one is to simply not care about that penance
spare talon
i dont enjoy the rest of darktide anymore
i may just be currently burnt out on it in general
but i dont think ill be spending all my time in the "i messed up even the slightest amount and now my hp is completely gone" mode
viral hare
I mean the simple solution to that one is to simply not care about that penance
shut up
no
me want
therefore i must
sterile stone
I mean the simple solution to that one is to simply not care about that penance
I gotta flex on the console players
lean lark
oh shit the havoc crate is openable today
tepid sorrel
i may just be currently burnt out on it in general
but i dont think ill be spend...
i mean you did just play through to havoc 40 twice
modern lintel
I gotta flex on the console players
i dont think so commie
tepid sorrel
among however many hours o darktide beforehand
spare talon
i mean darktide in general but yea
spare talon
but i think the majority of the playerbase will still spend more time out of havoc than in imo
tepid sorrel
the "majority of the playerbase" statistically struggles in malice, heresy, and normal damnations
so.. yeah?
viral hare
im banking on darktide holding my attention till mh wilds comes out
delicate shadow
I mean anyone who doesn't have a consistent premade will spend most time outside of havoc as well
spare talon
the "majority of the playerbase" statistically struggles in malice, heresy, and ...
you know what i meant
tepid sorrel
words have meaning
spare talon
like the people who play this as one of their main games in auric i mean
sterile stone
I mean anyone who doesn't have a consistent premade will spend most time outside...
Honestly, I feel bad for people who didn't get this shit done now
ornate plover
any tips for getting the "shocking Stuff" penance? ive been trying for so long.
sterile stone
Cause I feel like later on down the line hav 40s aren't gonna be as commonly open to pubs
lean lark
Honestly, I feel bad for people who didn't get this shit done now
it's barely been a week
sterile stone
Yeah
sterile stone
Nah
delicate shadow
party finder will inevitably dry up but it'll take probably 6 months
sterile stone
It is that drep
stable cypress
hard to top weaves
modern lintel
party finder will inevitably dry up but it'll take probably 6 months
i give it 2
lean lark
Time to charge 5$ to play in my hav40's.
viral hare
2 seems more realistic i feel
delicate shadow
it'll fall off hard over the next couple months but you'll have latecomers and such
delicate shadow
and people who get addicted to the mode
lean lark
wtf scam
viral hare
gotta love the 2 maelstrom missions worth of ordo with that lmao
tepid sorrel
kill dawn priest
vague depot
I’m gonna play havoc when I’m confident I won’t be dead weight
It’s not happening anytime soon lmao lmao
spare talon
people looking at the small amt of ordo dockets and not paying attention to the 35k and 23k of the resources
tepid sorrel
"bro i only got two missions worth of ordos for a crate i get for free every week"
lean lark
"bro i only got two missions worth of ordos for a crate i get for free every wee...
yeah
stable cypress
My main hope is that interesting modifiers and stuff get passed down to aurics along with captains in the wild with their pets (Once they're fixed and all)
spare talon
35000 plasteel for 1 mission a week from here on out
lean lark
Bad playtester should've made it be more. Always your fault
lean lark
Don't like something about a game? Blame the playtesters always
plush estuary
Left cole
spare talon
tepid sorrel
middle cole...
modern lintel
im going to dedicate my next loss to all the playtesters
delicate shadow
no aquilas for havoc 40
stable cypress
playtesters please find a way to fuck up into shooters being buffed again on "main" modes
delicate shadow
dead game
tepid sorrel
playtesters please find a way to fuck up into shooters being buffed again on "ma...
🙂
delicate shadow
shooters now get fire bullets
delicate shadow
sending this to FS rn
tepid sorrel
be careful what you wish for
sterile stone
sending this to FS rn
All gunners now have carapace
tepid sorrel
shooters might even have Guns.
viral hare
lowkey would be kinda cool if havoc rank reset weekly, but youre rewarded aquilas for getting higher havoc ranks
viral hare
hey man some people play this game like its a job anyways for nothing lmao
tepid sorrel
genuine great way to get people to stop playing it and reviewbombing the game
empty python
I wish I can get back to my PC so I can play havoc properly, being stuck with a 1650 laptop wiht 8gb of ram isn't nice, but I was still able to clutch in a Havoc 40 once xD, crazy
sterile stone
You don't NEED aquilas to play the game
tepid sorrel
people are THAT cooked
spare talon
there is no way theyre going to add a premium currency to gameplay rewards
tepid sorrel
truth
tepid sorrel
support the devs if u want the paid cosmetics lole
sterile stone
Like if you could buy god tier guns that you couldn't get anywhere else
Then I'd be up in arms
But it's cosmetics
In a game you play in first person.
viral hare
acshully youre in third person when youre reviving 🤓
frosty herald
People complaining about low ordo rewards
spare talon
In a game you play in first person.
(this is why i was so confused ppl were complaining about the weapon cosmetic rotation not being clothing)
sterile stone
acshully youre in third person when youre reviving 🤓
I'm gonna launch you into Cadia with a air gun
tepid sorrel
didn't you know you spend 99% of the game in the hub
leaden pebble
Stop being a broke ass
for the drip my beloved
tepid sorrel
i simply must have every cosmetic
sterile stone
for the drip my beloved
I wanna get it eventually
viral hare
i require havoc cosmetics
sterile stone
Just to see how the black mob53 armor looks with gold tiger stripes
sterile stone
i require havoc cosmetics
You know what's funny bout this
You need to only get to hav 25
And the rest you can farm out at hav 1 if you wanted
tepid sorrel
the cosmetics are meant to be accessible to everyone
empty python
i'm all for support devs and buying cosmetics for games I like, and I have. But still, the shop's pretty badly designed, but not anything I'd hem and haw about xD.
empty python
for the drip my beloved
it's a great mod, but I just can't with the feeling of "living a dream" xD
leaden pebble
the paid cosmetics suck in this game and they're overpriced af to boot
plus rotational store icky
but with mods i can look however i like for free
sick deal
spare talon
the cosmetics are meant to be accessible to everyone
my little brother wants the havoc forged title, it doesnt matter that hes 5, he wants it so he should be able to earn it
leaden pebble
it's a great mod, but I just can't with the feeling of "living a dream" xD
personally idrc that other people cant see them
tepid sorrel
my little brother wants the havoc forged title, it doesnt matter that hes 5, he ...
my infant homunculus wants true survivor
leaden pebble
only people i care about seeing my cosmetics are me and the emperor
everyone else idc
viral hare
one complaint about the cosmetics: stop stealing zealots sleeves fatshark please 😦
autumn vector
My cat wants lots of cat treats but if I give in all the time he just a fat fuck who shits himself so I gotta take care and make sure he deserves the treats or they become something he expects.
frosty herald
I need the white cloth chestplate with leather shoulderpad back in rotation
empty python
the paid cosmetics suck in this game and they're overpriced af to boot
plus rota...
are they THAT bad tho? I mean, for me they're only like 8$ for each set, takes a bit of calculating to fully optimize but that's about it. Personally, I've seen games with way worse stuff going on xD
but money's money i suppose
leaden pebble
most of the cosmetics are reskins and some of them get really expensive
especially since they're only for 1 class
viral hare
the blue krieg skins are insulting
leaden pebble
yep
grizzled aspen
are they THAT bad tho? I mean, for me they're only like 8$ for each set, takes a...
We have had several rotations with recolors that are the same price or more.
Commodore's Vestures are fucking shameful.
tepid sorrel
i personally blame James Workshop for all my prblems
leaden pebble
actually yea not even just reskins, recolors
that shit should be free to owners of the original skin
viral hare
actually yea not even just reskins, recolors
that shit should be free to owners ...
or atleast make the recolors like a fraction of the original price
elfin steppe
that's a lot for just one game
viral hare
that's a lot for just one game
its just comical to get that many crafting mats and then 2 missions worth of ordo
empty python
We have had several rotations with recolors that are the same price or more.
personally, I don't mind recolors that much, if I only end up getting one of them. I mean, there are armors that I really liked before with cool design but SHIT camo, and it's nice getting that same armor but with amazing camo. Like the golden armor with red clothing.
If I don't like ONE aspect of a piece of cosmetic, I don't buy it
leaden pebble
i shit on premium currencies and rotational shops in just about any game
but this game's store is a big middle finger to the player with how minimal effort a lot of the skins are
sterile stone
@tepid sorrel Remember that post you made not too long ago
viral hare
helldivers superstore is pretty neat i think
empty python
helldivers superstore is pretty neat i think
arent they also just recolors and using same assets tho xD?
leaden pebble
helldivers superstore is pretty neat i think
yea the skins are like $2 worth of currency and currency is earned at a decent rate ingame
viral hare
arent they also just recolors and using same assets tho xD?
no
empty python
they are tho
leaden pebble
some are reskins
but the difference is they're like 20% the cost and you can actually earn that in-game
tepid sorrel
<@96632858218631168> Remember that post you made not too long ago
yea
empty python
some are reskins
but the difference is they're like 20% the cost and you can act...
what do you mean, yeah some armors do have unique, but a lot of them are the same armors with different pauldrons and a few straps and addons, or less.
leaden pebble
i havent spent any $ outside the game itself and i have all the cosmetics
and its not like i have a thousand hours or smth either
empty python
yea the skins are like $2 worth of currency and currency is earned at a decent r...
isn't like 1 warbond 10$? Which is 1000 super credits, and some cosmetics in the store can go up to 600-800 super creds? That's more than 2$, no?
tepid sorrel
im gonna run some Havocs now
empty python
that beign said, SC farm is a thing
viral hare
warbonds give 300 sc back
frosty herald
It was a thing*
leaden pebble
isn't like 1 warbond 10$? Which is 1000 super credits, and some cosmetics in the...
most ive ever seen an item is 400
most are 100-200
empty python
effectively each warbond costs 700
so 7$, and some cosmetics are 800 SCs, so 8$
leaden pebble
some are not 800 lmao
empty python
some are, 600 + 250
for full set
or 250+150
ofc some are less expensive
i'm aware
viral hare
at worst theyre 600 at best they dont break 225 lol
empty python
at worst theyre 600 at best they dont break 225 lol
ah I think I might have applied the total prices as individual mb
still, that's like 6$ some of them
leaden pebble
the fact you can even earn it in-game
without even going out of your way to do it
is miles ahead of this lmao
and all the skins come back within a month period
in this game if you miss a skin you can miss it for several months if not longer
empty python
give or take
leaden pebble
massive fomo element here
grizzled aspen
personally, I don't mind recolors that much, if I only end up getting one of the...
You are missing the problem.
Buying the model should be the actual premium price.
Krieg is a perfect example.
It should be a one time purchase.
Colors should be in the commissary for dockets.
leaden pebble
krieg is expensive af fomo bait
viral hare
also, doing efficient super credit farms can net close to 500 an hour
leaden pebble
ive never had to go out of my way to farm them
not once
frosty herald
There are better games out there that respect your time
tepid sorrel
this is a weird hill to die on yam
frosty herald
empty python
Colors should be in the commissary for dockets.
I mean, yeah, in the perfect world. It's not like I don't WANT it to be like that, alas...how things are right now is...well, hate to say it, but pretty consistent with how \things are with games nowadays. It's not 2005 HALO anymore unfortunately
leaden pebble
we shouldnt just lower our standards lmao
if you dont stand up to expensive no effort cosmetics all you will have will be expensive no effort cosmetics
games like drg be praised
leaden pebble
modern games have only gotten where they are because people don't vote with their wallet and just spend thousands of dollars on skins anyway, so the company is like ooh money we'll keep doing this
mfw gacha games exist
tepid sorrel
gacha games are a plague
leaden pebble
this is why most of my gametime nowadays are in indies and singleplayer games with devs that still respect the consumer
empty python
modern games have only gotten where they are because people don't vote with thei...
i don't disagree, but I doubt that's changing any time soon lol, and tbh if Darktide's bad, it's on the lower end of bad if anything xD
leaden pebble
gacha games are a plague
what you dont like spending $20,000 on pngs?
tepid sorrel
I love bankrupting myself over poorly animated 3d models and PNGs!!!
leaden pebble
:D
empty python
mfw PubG sells like...tshirts for probably like more expensive than some individual cosmetic pieces in Darktide
misty mason
Oh no level 21 havoc and theres a vet with a chaxe
shadow ember
I can't decide between trying to build a funny decapitation zealot and trying to mix the support abilities and survival ones onto a stealth build
I spent a stealthy knifey mission being an ambulance and it was kinda fun
leaden pebble
mfw PubG sells like...tshirts for probably like more expensive than some individ...
ew
free games like that are always the worst
empty python
ew
free games like that are always the worst
it was not once free, and was still like that back then lmao
leaden pebble
now those are even worse
empty python
if i remember correctly
leaden pebble
cod nowadays
empty python
yeah CoD is something else
empty python
Halo Infinite lol
elfin steppe
its just comical to get that many crafting mats and then 2 missions worth of ord...
I don't really care since my ordo reached the upper limit months ago.
tepid sorrel
learn to model things urself instead of playing gacha games i beg of you
grizzled aspen
I mean, yeah, in the perfect world. It's not like I don't WANT it to be like tha...
It doesn't have to be how they are. That's the point I'm making.
leaden pebble
im so happy 90% of the games i play i picked up for like $20 and own 100% of the game
elfin steppe
I simply can't get any more of them
grizzled aspen
Fatshark has proven they are capable of making good cosmetics, they just got lazy because man hours were put elsewhere.
leaden pebble
i miss vt2
shadow ember
Is the heal on hit talent anything?
viral hare
vt2 crossover cosmetics when
leaden pebble
caught whiff of the lovely fomo rotational shop idea
lunar fable
learn to model things urself instead of playing gacha games i beg of you
So much work... not that I play gacha games myself
grizzled aspen
I.e. full movesets for four brand new weapon models plus animations for a gun.
tepid sorrel
So much work... not that I play gacha games myself
80,000 dollars or a year of on-and-off learning
for a marketable skill
take ur pick
lean lark
80,000 dollars or a year of on-and-off learning
Double it and give it to the next person
viral hare
double it and give it to me
lunar fable
Yea can the next guy spend 160k for me
tepid sorrel
320k going ONCE
leaden pebble
vt2 crossover cosmetics when
fgs is literally just virtue of confidence grail knight
one step away fatshark
lean lark
I'm doubling the demonhost and giving it to the next person (my teammate ancient)
empty python
caught whiff of the lovely fomo rotational shop idea
I love VT2, got more than 1.7k hours in it, but I do have to admit, the reason why some cosmetics (not the free ones) are even lower priced or on discount is mostly bc the game's been out for a long ass time haha. ANd hell, SOME of the premium cosmetics are somewhat reskin a bit (Pyromancer stuff). But admittedly, it is still better
viral hare
double my eepyness and give it to me (goodnight yall)
leaden pebble
double my eepyness and give it to me (goodnight yall)
enjoy thy eep
elfin steppe
that won't last long since everyone will be havoc 40 sooner or later.
frosty herald
Except for redditors
wooden basalt
first roll gg no re
sterile stone
you can also play a hav1 to maintain your hav40 too
That's so scuffed
wooden basalt
you can also play a hav1 to maintain your hav40 too
I don't believe that lol
I don't believe that at all
sterile stone
It's basically just a participation reward once you hit 40
frosty herald
Lol
lean lark
I don't believe that lol
Read the notes
spare talon
first roll gg no re
erm you actually want cleave damage dumped, so when you swap to the morally correct mark 5, defences are dumped instead
lean lark
you maintain your personal assignment
wooden basalt
erm you actually want cleave damage dumped, so when you swap to the morally corr...
already have one
lean lark
Even if you do a hav1 and ou're hav 40
spare talon
I don't believe that lol
you just have to play a single havoc mission
win or lose
your own or someone elses