zealot-class

[copper hawk]

Another pawful day in queer chud life

[rancid matrix]

If they can afford a fursuit that costs several thousands to build

[grizzled aspen]

Listen man, I do not have an attraction to animals, anthro or otherwise, so I'm not a furry.

[rancid matrix]

They can afford a pipe bomb

[copper hawk]

[hard nexus]

oh boy i sure can’t wait to visit the palms

the gay palms

[next jacinth]

Chat what are zealots successfully running in high havoc

[rancid matrix]

And as a good friend to the Irish

I must support the cause

[grizzled aspen]

There is exactly 2 builds.

[rancid matrix]

Jays

[rocky nacelle]

chorus/ flamer / ds and whatever else people wanna use

[sterile stone]

Chorus

[rancid matrix]

And a healthy dose of crack cocaine

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da488ca-149d-448a-bd52-dfe4f41d7f95/zealot-havoc-carry-build

[grizzled aspen]

One is chorus crit cdr abuse, the other is chastise ds for dropping armor and bosses.

[lean lark]

relic blaed flamer is what i run

on fotf ij

[grizzled aspen]

Both should likely run flamer.

[rocky nacelle]

i should force someone to be the vet krakker (im not calling it any other name than this)

so we can 1 shot bosses without meleeing

[grizzled aspen]

Kraks, voc, focus target, gaming.

[hard nexus]

thunder hammer usefulness when

[rocky nacelle]

darktide 2

[grizzled aspen]

Never.

[hard nexus]

frown

[rancid matrix]

I use it

Therefore its useful

[rocky nacelle]

never seen you use it

[hard nexus]

why does ds4 do more single target

[rocky nacelle]

fake

[copper hawk]

I use

[rancid matrix]

Full of use ahh mfer

[hard nexus]

than a fucking hammer

[copper hawk]

Nvm

La la la

[grizzled aspen]

Evisc mk3 usefulness when?

[rancid matrix]

You saw me yesterday…

[rocky nacelle]

i wasnt on fart tide yesterday

😇

liar liar pants on fire

[rancid matrix]

My pants cant be on fire

[hard nexus]

froooowwwnn

[violet hornet]

I tried to tell people here it has no real niche because of ds4 and they told me thammer is borderline OP. How many hammers you seen in high havoc?

[rancid matrix]

They’re full of moist shit that isnt flammable

[hard nexus]

put pants on

[grizzled aspen]

Yes I felt like making you sad so I can sleep better.

[rancid matrix]

Ive only worn skirts for years because all my pants are poopy…

[hard nexus]

moist shit as in, things that are moist? or feces

[rancid matrix]

Kindergarten was rough for me

[hard nexus]

oh this is evil

explode

[rocky nacelle]

erm ok poopy skirt user

anyways

💅🏽

[grizzled aspen]

Ok that's enough of that.

I'm going to go bleach my eyeballs now.

[rancid matrix]

Aight.

I’ll respect you and quieten down.

[grizzled aspen]

Mods, spread their gore across the cosmos.

[rocky nacelle]

when you have frog and meow telling you its enough (you somehow out cringed them)

[violet hornet]

Nurgle worshipper vibes

[rocky nacelle]

thats how you know you said some nasty shit

[winged vessel]

whats so bad about knowing a person wears a skirt

[rocky nacelle]

asmongold vibes

[rancid matrix]

Truly a skill belonging only to the gods

[rocky nacelle]

im a non believer

[rancid matrix]

NAH DONT COMPARE ME TO HIM

[rocky nacelle]

so you are nothing 2 me

[rancid matrix]

:(

[grizzled aspen]

That's a weird way of spelling degenerates.

[copper hawk]

I wear skirts cuz EVERYONE Should BASK in the glory of my exotic army thighz,,

[rocky nacelle]

whats a god 2 a non believa

[copper hawk]

Allah told me 2 do it

[violet hornet]

Too late, skid marks

[grizzled aspen]

Maybe don't act like Asmongold and you won't be compared to him?

Filthy animal.

[rancid matrix]

Aight i apologise

[rocky nacelle]

you should eat tacos

[winged vessel]

you a re such a silly billy

[rocky nacelle]

and pass out

[rancid matrix]

As funny as it was (to me and me alone) at the time the joke is now making me sad I dont want to be known for skid marks

[copper hawk]

Yep yep

Datz the plan

[winged vessel]

haha pant pooper

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/killinger-venture-venture-bros-your-powers-dont-work-gif-9849487

[rocky nacelle]

🌮

[grizzled aspen]

You won't even show em, stfu. :3 (/j)

[rocky nacelle]

🛌

[rancid matrix]

Bed?

I be in bed rn

[rocky nacelle]

hmmm we should give you the court friend role again

[grizzled aspen]

Nope, too late, skid marks are already in your notes section.

[rocky nacelle]

after this one

[rancid matrix]

Honk shmimimimi

[copper hawk]

Those who know

[violet hornet]

Taco bed

[grizzled aspen]

Perhaps you should explode?

[slender belfry]

brothar

[rancid matrix]

I am latina so I suppose I am a taco bed smh my head

[copper hawk]

Im half n half..

[slender belfry]

i made it

[rancid matrix]

Foulblood

[hard nexus]

mango mango mango mango

[copper hawk]

Im latino.. a dirty pocho..

[grizzled aspen]

I am waiting for medication to obliterate my higher order thinking so I can sleep.

[opal star]

what’s going on in zealot class today

[drowsy steppe]

death

[hard nexus]

you don’t have higher thinking

[opal star]

I sure hope it’s a nice, civil conversation

[hard nexus]

some girl shit herself

uhh

[grizzled aspen]

Hispanics, skid marks, and depression.

[hard nexus]

that’s all i know

[copper hawk]

FERRET

[opal star]

what the fuck

[tepid sorrel]

what the actual fuck am i reading

[tribal estuary]

what perks should i use on my relic blade?

[hard nexus]

he looks like a drunken father

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/speedy-gonzales-running-gif-17911127493511239595

[copper hawk]

Frog projecting his fetish in chat

[rocky nacelle]

cica going for his runs

[copper hawk]

And ruining it

[grizzled aspen]

He looks like me after a nice succulent meal.

[lean lark]

elites maniac

[drowsy steppe]

flak and elite, maniac or carapace

[grizzled aspen]

Wtf am I projecting???

What the hell???

[rancid matrix]

I am a projection of Frog’s subconscious

[violet hornet]

Apparently skirts are great for cleaning up messes in a pinch, who knew

[tribal estuary]

well im keeping carapace

[rancid matrix]

Truly

[copper hawk]

Speedie..

[rancid matrix]

Depends on the skirt but tbh, not really

[tribal estuary]

so ig i'll get flak

[rocky nacelle]

cici gonzales

[grizzled aspen]

I said ONE THING about femboy thighs and I'm somehow weirder than the one talking about having shit filled pants???

[rancid matrix]

I dont have pants

[tepid sorrel]

vile, disgusting creatures

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-talking-gif-16041412329124270241

[copper hawk]

UR STILL TALKING ABOUT IT

[rancid matrix]

They’re all full of shit so I cant wear them

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-talking-gif-16041412329124270241

[drowsy steppe]

zealot chat feeling super zesty today huh

[grizzled aspen]

BUT HOW AM I PROJECTING THEN???

[tribal estuary]

ewie

[rancid matrix]

I somehow dug myself into a deeper hole than before

[grizzled aspen]

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW IM PROJECTING

[drowsy steppe]

uhm

[undone pewter]

Fucks going on in here

[rancid matrix]

Because I’m your astral projection

[grizzled aspen]

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/who-gif-3497537355810368122

[drowsy steppe]

I dont wanna hear about your poop fetish thx

[misty ravine]

Typical off-hours zealot chat

[rocky nacelle]

poop fetish freak frog and bed girl

sitting in a discord chat

k i s s

i n

[devout flicker]

what perks do I want on zealot laspis

[rocky nacelle]

G

[undone pewter]

Ah

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, that's enough.

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-tf2spy-spytf2-gif-19270816

[rancid matrix]

I would never

[copper hawk]

Ok, that's enough.

[rancid matrix]

I have no mouth

[rocky nacelle]

actually better yet

poop freak frog and bedgirl shitting in a tree

[tepid sorrel]

i think we should bring back lobotomies

[rocky nacelle]

however else the kids rhyme goes

[copper hawk]

I love my blahajs..

[rancid matrix]

Why do you think im like this to begin with

[winged vessel]

zealot chat gains sentience

[rancid matrix]

My mans are you trans

[copper hawk]

Nop

Om the most

[rocky nacelle]

inb4 trans people gatekeeping blahajs

😱

[copper hawk]

Cis person here

Yep yep

[rancid matrix]

I’m transvestigating not gatekeeping smh

[arctic saffron]

quite the claim

[spare dome]

no that's cole

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus right ??

No egg here

[rocky nacelle]

transkeeping

[frozen glen]

😐

[spare dome]

cole is our little straight pet

[drowsy steppe]

???

[spare dome]

everyone else has some degree of flaminess

[rancid matrix]

I sense the protochicken that laid the first egg

[copper hawk]

I have 2 blahaj

AND a sharkitty..

[sullen forge]

The fuck is an egg outside of like what chickens lay and I eat

[drowsy steppe]

fucking

[rocky nacelle]

i feel like you're opening another can of worms

that you either dont want

[sullen forge]

Some of these words straight up do not make sense to me

[rocky nacelle]

or you forgot about it

[spare dome]

someone failed biology

[rocky nacelle]

(probably for a good reason)

[rancid matrix]

And you have Falin as your pfp and that queer ahh profile banner…

And a vested interest in lesbians?

[copper hawk]

It's peak

[rancid matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-rock-gif-23559354

[spare dome]

everyone knows human beings lay eggs

[copper hawk]

Fish idol.gif is peak

[copper hawk]

I LOVE SIGNALIS !!

[sullen forge]

4 years in bio-med I have a strong feeling it’s another wacky term online I missed out on

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-ariane-runnning-fast-elster-gif-6408563343926012727

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-bojack-gohan-goku-gif-18429306974973706123

[drowsy steppe]

flak and maniac

[frosty herald]

stay away from cica

[sullen forge]

Cause I’ll see these words like every so often and be like

[drowsy steppe]

yes

better off not knowing

[sullen forge]

What the hell does that mean LMAO

[tepid sorrel]

😐

[copper hawk]

Why cant the space lesbians be happy ..

[sullen forge]

I should probably ask meow

She would know

[rancid matrix]

Egg is a term used to refer to trans people who either havent realised their trans yet or are on the precipice of it where its very obvious to everyone else that theyre probably trans.

[copper hawk]

Know what what means

[sullen forge]

If I can’t be happy…. No one can…..

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[rancid matrix]

They haven’t “cracked the egg” yet.

[drowsy steppe]

..

[violet hornet]

Right like a man in the military can't just enjoy some thigh highs

[copper hawk]

I will defeat the egg allegationz

[grizzled aspen]

Get glomped idiot.

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/falin-absolute-cinema-dungeon-meshi-gif-5519129048226854277

[violet hornet]

Maybe it makes him feel more confident

[rancid matrix]

Falin and Marcille sure got to be happy and THEYRE lebanésé!

[winged vessel]

nobody can be happy in space

[misty ravine]

Especially not in the grim dark future of space

[copper hawk]

Troo

[winged vessel]

anyway why are we talking about lesbians

[copper hawk]

Trooooooo

[rancid matrix]

It seems more than half of this chat is signalis fans

[misty ravine]

Have you seen the women of darktide

[copper hawk]

I loooove signalis..

[rancid matrix]

Signalis being a survival horror about lesbian androids

[winged vessel]

gay robots...

[frosty herald]

cica will beat the allegations of the very creepy term

[copper hawk]

Peak..

[frozen glen]

very creepy term indeed

[drowsy steppe]

very

[rancid matrix]

Ngl tho I am being afflicted by Nurgle’s curse rn

[tepid sorrel]

i wish you a very seek therapy

[rancid matrix]

I’m really sick and I pray that the Emperor cleanses me

[sterile stone]

My fucking brain is going to explode

Watching knife zealots get absolutely shit on by hordes of ragers

Cause no one decided to bring any form of crowd control

[copper hawk]

The grubs..

[tepid sorrel]

alright argus let's go play havoc

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-in-yourself-son-im-my-fathers-son-gif-23681244

[tepid sorrel]

its havoc time argus

[copper hawk]

Speak and they shall appear..

[tepid sorrel]

ARGUS it's HAVOC TIME

[rancid matrix]

Why crowd control when you can just mag dump with Bolter

[copper hawk]

Yapato.. -30 cica points..

[lean lark]

get moving argus

[sterile stone]

I'm only doing 35+

I wanna get this shit slog over with

[tepid sorrel]

Argus.

Come join us.

And I will tell you the words.

[sterile stone]

Ugh...

Fine

Gimmie a second

[hard nexus]

no comment

[copper hawk]

:<

[drowsy steppe]

drip goku

[rancid matrix]

Ferrets are adorable

But also bloody terrible

They’re evil

[fleet zealot]

[silver granite]

Yo

Anyone got a zelly build for havoc?

[rancid matrix]

I think someone posted one earlier, if youre willing to scroll through that shitshow

Lmao

[silver granite]

oof

Do you know how many hours ago?

[lean lark]

this is what i run

[steel agate]

i looked up "In: zealot-class Havoc" and it was the 5th result

#zealot-class message

yw

[silver granite]

Thanks

[spare dome]

ive had the drumline from The Noose by A Perfect Circle stuck in my head for one straight week now

thanks for that, brain. very useful

[misty ravine]

No Beacon and no Chorus is interesting

[lean lark]

thats my dmg build

i have one for chorus w/beacon too

[silver granite]

send the chorus build too @lean lark

Pls

[violet hornet]

this is what I've been using, with 1 node swapped

only with a ds4 and flamer instead

[lean lark]

only changes from my dmg build

[silver granite]

Why immolation grenade instead of knife?

[lean lark]

still flamer with pen flames blaze away carapace elites

[lean lark]

knife is trash, especially in havoc

[silver granite]

It's also trash in auric?

[misty ravine]

Fuck no

[violet hornet]

Knife is fine in havoc if you're running a flamer lol

[lean lark]

its usable

[violet hornet]

having immo nades and a flamer is redundant and leaves you helpless against all kinds of shooters beyond flamer range

[lean lark]

you have a team in havoc

they will shoot the gunners for you

[violet hornet]

it does take 2 knives to kill some targets or more if you're not hitting weakspots

[analog ember]

on the one hand, knife is way worse in havoc than it is in auric

on the other hand, immo nade pathing is ass

[violet hornet]

but the ammo economy of tknives is valuable in havoc where ammo refills don't grant much

[lean lark]

restoring faith ptu are good nodes

[silver granite]

uhh

I am confused now

What should I run?

[misty ravine]

Throwing knives have way better talents leading up to them, they are quick deletion of squishier specials and elites (out to surprising range once you get used to the arc), they allow you to run Flamer and still kill further-off enemies, they can be used to animation cancel the slow draw times of Bolter and Flamer, and they are effectively unlimited

[frozen ibex]

Wut no damage choir?

[violet hornet]

animation cancel from tknives is huge

[lean lark]

nop

[misty ravine]

They only fall off in Havoc because the damage doesn't keep up with enemy health, and even then there is still a case to be made for them

[lean lark]

survivability matters more if you're not in a premade

[silver granite]

can you give your build pls

I prefer knives too

for snipers mainly

[frozen ibex]

Killing faster is also survivability imo

[lean lark]

yeah its survivability too

but its indirect survivability

[silver granite]

[arctic saffron]

"best defense is a great offense" - ghandi

[silver granite]

That wasn't gandhi but ok

[delicate shadow]

I legit only recognise meshuggah and rivers of nihil (and periphery but that's only because you told me)

[misty ravine]

Doing the immolation grenade penance and playing Vet for a while has made me really feel like a sucker on any character that's actually beholden to grenade pickups for their grenades

[delicate shadow]

I have some research to do

[rancid matrix]

Naoki is the main singer for Guilty Gear’s OST

[silver granite]

@misty ravine pls send build

for zealot havoc

[rancid matrix]

And Vildhjarta is the evolution of djent. You got Meshuggah, then you got Periphery, then you got Vildhjarta. There’s a clear progression.

[delicate shadow]

oh shit ok definitely gonna have to listen to them

[misty ravine]

It's pretty much this one

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da488ca-149d-448a-bd52-dfe4f41d7f95/zealot-havoc-carry-build

[silver granite]

what is changed in your build

compared to the one you linked

Wait a minute, you use chainsword?

[rocky nacelle]

cica does

[frozen ibex]

If you are playing choir would you use tdr or damage for havoc?

[frosty herald]

damage resist

[misty ravine]

Mk2 Dueling Sword or Relic Blade is basically all. Relic Blade is nice on a Chorus build because you just hit Chorus once you overheat, but the poor dodges are annoying

[rocky nacelle]

damage resist but neither

cause the point taxes suck

having 1 zealot with it is nice though

[frozen ibex]

Not buffing your psyker smh

[rocky nacelle]

or could have both TDR and DMG with 2 different books

[remote lark]

[silver granite]

Ok I will use the relic blade

[misty ravine]

And Mk2 Dueling Sword is honestly more so that I can say it wasn't a DS4

[remote lark]

good morning zealot chat

hi @delicate shadow

[silver granite]

any other changes to the tree?

[remote lark]

i need to take a nap

but i think i want to update my relic blade pin

[grizzled aspen]

Didn't you say you were going to bed like four hours ago or some shit?

[remote lark]

piety mk10 with light spam to horde clear is equally as good as IJ mk10/mk3 but offers more tdr

i did alot of play testing last night

[grizzled aspen]

Mk2, not mk3.

[remote lark]

it also lets you use invoc

[delicate shadow]

g'day Lumi

[remote lark]

yee

whatever NERD

mk3 these nuts

[grizzled aspen]

🤏

[remote lark]

im just too eepy to make a spreadsheet right now

i tri3ed to sleep hours ago

but i couldn't

and now im a zombie

but i have commissions to do

guhhh

[violet hornet]

have a taco, then sleep

[remote lark]

I JUST HAD TACOS

i cleaned my room & ordered food

put myself int ofood coma

but now im super cold

and they were spicy

so now i'm awake

[violet hornet]

lmao

[remote lark]

i keep my room at like 50 something degrees

[violet hornet]

you have undone the taco magic

[remote lark]

permanently

[silver granite]

Does anyone else have suggestions for zelly havoc build?

[grizzled aspen]

Just warm up, idiot?

[silver granite]

how are you not boiling

[remote lark]

mk2 relic blade with cranial and shred

[grizzled aspen]

50 F.

[remote lark]

Fahrenheit

[grizzled aspen]

50 F is cold.

[silver granite]

what about main weapon

ah ok

[remote lark]

that's 10c

[wraith cipher]

wrath instead of sweep?

[remote lark]

yes

[silver granite]

fuck how are you not cold

[remote lark]

i like cold

i wear robes

[grizzled aspen]

Wait I thought relic blade didn't have access to shred?

[silver granite]

But that's because I am india

[remote lark]

ugh

[modern lintel]

im saying

[remote lark]

i'm tired

[silver granite]

I like summer not cold

[remote lark]

i didnt' mean shred

i mmeant umm

wrath

[silver granite]

cranial + wrath on relic blade (gotcha)

[remote lark]

oui

i found a tech on the mk10 as well

[spare dome]

cranial is poop, do heatsink if you want heat management

[modern lintel]

robes estates furry its all adding to the equation

[remote lark]

if you push (not PA, just push)

your next heavy will be h3

whichi s the sweep

[spare dome]

or rampage if you just want more damage

[remote lark]

on mk10

[grizzled aspen]

Yet another wrong Exploits take.

Peak.

[silver granite]

Bruh

[remote lark]

which completely makes the mk2 pointless unless you like the alternate dash light / PA

[foggy coral]

Which keystone does the relic blade pair well with? I've been using martyrdom mostly. Is it critty enough to do well with piety?

[violet hornet]

I love the horde clear and single target on mk 10 but switching between the two is not exactly easy

[grizzled aspen]

BIS is cranial + rampage for normal stuff, cranial + wrath for havocs.

[arctic saffron]

some people talk about how great the uppercut is but idk what makes it so great

[spare dome]

cranial is shit lmao

[remote lark]

mk10 can take piety cause it can lightspam to horde clear + stack scourge
both can use heavy loops to clear with IJ

[violet hornet]

the stab PA and light are so good for weakspotting tho

[silver granite]

I am gonna come back once the dust has settled and when there are guides for Havoc

lol

[spare dome]

i really dunno why yall keep trying to use it

[grizzled aspen]

Frankly, you can run cranial + wrath for normal stuff and it still be really good because you can cleave like 5 dreg ragers and kill all of them.

[remote lark]

explain why you tink it's shit

i have to hear this

[violet hornet]

You can also heavy light loop for horizontals iirc

[opal star]

psykers when the voices in their head (their beloved) tells them to kill tens if not hundreds of thousands of people

[violet hornet]

but having the option for either is nice

[remote lark]

heavy spam just loops h3 and h4 which are both horizontals i think

or is that mk2..

no thats mk10

[violet hornet]

yep you're right

[arctic saffron]

this is true

[violet hornet]

l1 l2 [h3 h4] for all horizontal horde clear on mk10

[silver granite]

cya dark tiders

[remote lark]

o7

[violet hornet]

but I think you can also do l1 [l2 h3]

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[arctic saffron]

you can indeed

[spare dome]

20% weakspot gets you no breakpoints your talent tree couldnt solve and isnt going to do anything at havocs
the -% heat gen doesnt do anything for you if the sword is off
in my testing cranial bought me at most two extra seconds of active time only if i was fully stacked before turning it on
heatsink bought me four seconds extra with ease and also shaved four seconds off the recharge from full

[remote lark]

theres a faster method

[spare dome]

cranial is shit

[remote lark]

push (not pa)
h3 h4 loop

idk why

but push on relic sword starts you off at h3

[violet hornet]

oh yeah I have noticed that, probably is a bit faster

[remote lark]

it does get you breakpoints though

your talent tree making up the gap doesn't make it meaningless

it'll get you horde clear bps you can't otherwise reach without martyr

and if you do take martyr you'll hit more bps

[violet hornet]

mk2 can do PA heavy heavy or PA heavy light as well for horde clear but I'm not that familiar with which parts of the combo they are

[grizzled aspen]

You are wasting your breath.

[remote lark]

i'm aware

[grizzled aspen]

He does not care.

[spare dome]

IJ is the way

[remote lark]

but i also know i'm right

and he's wrong

andddd

[spare dome]

but martyrdom isnt really uh

[remote lark]

im' smart and he's stupid (aquino said i can't call him the r slur)

[grizzled aspen]

[spare dome]

well in havocs its a funny time

cranial is shit

[remote lark]

exploits

whats your havoc rank

just curious

[spare dome]

if you want damage, grab rampage. if you want a heat resource, just do heatsink

[remote lark]

answer me exploits

[spare dome]

27 rn iirc

[remote lark]

i have a followup question is that okay?

[spare dome]

finally have a day off to play

and i have to fucking shovelllll

[violet hornet]

people acting like anyone with a job has had time to farm havocs lol

[remote lark]

@spare dome i have a question

:3

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle i'm down to do a few games today

[spare dome]

just ask em dude

[lunar fable]

but it would probably be later in the day

[remote lark]

who carried your stupid ass through the auric mael to unlock havocs, let alone "reach" 27

[spare dome]

idk ask path

[modern lintel]

i mean iv played less then probably 10 matchs and brought myself up to 26

[spare dome]

he picked me up when i exploded my psyker twice

[arctic saffron]

you don't need to do auric mael for havocs tho, standard is enough

[remote lark]

masochist

that starts you at 1

doing auric mael starts you at 16!

[violet hornet]

I hit ten matches yesterday and finished at 35, but I've also been playing havoc in almost all my free time after work

lucked out finding a random lobby that started at 33 and went to 35 last night

[remote lark]

i work to 1-2am every night.. i can't really queue havoc

[arctic saffron]

yeah you got me there. actually i went back to do auric mael, completed it just now and my havoc is stil lat 1

[grizzled aspen]

I started at 10...

[stone fern]

@remote lark you have time to shitpost but not play with me 😭

[arctic saffron]

kinda cooked ngl

[rocky nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1076350592890445844.webp?size=96

[misty ravine]

All.

• Piety is less than ideal with slow weapon but still benefits with high crit multiplier, and Invocation of Death is hard to find points for if you aren't going down that way anyways. Stalwart is underrated as it does a lot more than it says it does (IIRC giving Toughness gain as well as TDR)
• Martyrdom is Martyrdom: high base damage x more higher damage
• IJ improves the Relic Blade's poor dodging (another unlisted bonus) and everyone can use more damage and more mobility. Takes the fewest Talent points of the keystones, assuming you were taking Sustained Assault anyways.

Havoc meta just steers everyone towards Piety

[remote lark]

i couldn't sleep

[rocky nacelle]

hows POE 2 @lunar fable (when you can get in the actual game)

[violet hornet]

if you're doing your own havoc mission tho and it takes 40+ mins for each match, starting at 16 from auric maelstrom qualifier, that's 24 mission to complete to 40 meaning 26.6 hours with no losses

and most harder havocs are going to take more time

[stone fern]

F

[lunar fable]

pretty good

[frosty herald]

reddit throwing a fit over havoc

yes the hardest content in the game requires a meta build

[lunar fable]

imo it's better with one other person

[remote lark]

(you dont hit enough crits with just stalwart to get good invoc uptime or crit tdr uptime, even with mk10 light spam)
(you need scourge + mk10 light spam + right side piety to get value out of it)

[spare dome]

on the heat management note

[remote lark]

exploits

[spare dome]

can one of you code divers see if the heat mod on the relic blade effects the cost per swing

cause i could not sus that out in just the Psykhanium

[frosty herald]

5%

no i will not elaborate

[spare dome]

honestly thats probably right

[remote lark]

jokes and bullying you aside

i made a spreadsheet on horde clear values and tests with cranial unstacked

both with and without rampage

it hits horde clear bps in both singular and mixed hordes

[grizzled aspen]

Tldr, the dog has too much time on his hands and knows more than you.

[remote lark]

you need it, IJ isn't enough

i sat in psych for hours

so that you all didn't have to

I DIDNT DO THAT

SO YOU COULD IGNORE ME

[grizzled aspen]

(This is why I didn't do research)

(Dog gooder at research than me)

[violet hornet]

yeah leave it for the neets lol

[remote lark]

die

[stone fern]

now do the same for the dodge issues and write a 5 page report to fatshark

thans btw

[remote lark]

reeeeeeeeeeeeee

[grizzled aspen]

Oh I was gonna give you virtual headpats for your hard work but now you don't get any.

[spare dome]

maybe at 30 havoc my mjnd will change

[grizzled aspen]

Butthead.

[spare dome]

otherwise nah

[remote lark]

im not talking about havoc

i meant in regular damnation

testing bps for havoc will make me kill myself

[spare dome]

oh then i really dont see it LOL, hordes are whatever

[remote lark]

it honestly doesn't matter unless ur optimizing cause

the weapons horde clear is busted

but i like big numbers and i like optimization

[spare dome]

ye

[remote lark]

u can run bullshit on the relic blade

and still be a lawn mower

this is a rudimentary reference sheet i made a while

just smacking some enemies and noting arbitrary damage numbers (non crit weakspot)

it let me guesstimate w/ ij and cranial and other stuff what bp's i'd need to kill the 2-3 enemies it could damage before the cleave damage fell off

[violet hornet]

yeah even before I was comfortable with relic blade and was often panic button mashing attacks instead of having a clear combo it seemed quite effective

[remote lark]

the weapon generally deals really good damage to the first 3 enemies it hits then drops off by like 70% on the 4th and higher

so all you need is enough damage to kill those 2-3 enemies

thats why rampage is so good on it

[wraith cipher]

lol did that guy saying cranial sucks lead to this

[remote lark]

yeah but i did these sheets a while ago

[spare dome]

reframing it, you get more active swings out of heatsink than cranial and if you do reach lockout state heatsink takes it back out sooner

i dont use either anyway

[remote lark]

i was also reinforcing a point that if you take rampage then uptime doesn't matter as much because you still hit great bps with unpowered swings

when i made this

[grizzled aspen]

Here's a hint, don't lock your fuckin sword!

[remote lark]

bc some bitch was telling me rampage wasn't good

[violet hornet]

1 offhand comment leads to 2 hours of studying lol

[spare dome]

i dont find the heat hard to use but both together are pretty funny

[grizzled aspen]

It's like half a second to turn it off or a weapon swap and you get block frames when you deactivate it!

[spare dome]

ye just QQ it

[remote lark]

btw

last thing before i go bed

am i crazy or is relic the only weapon where push changes its position in its combo

ive never seen a weapon where you can just do push -> H3

[spare dome]

ironhelm did or doed

[remote lark]

or maybe i just didn't notice

well, relic does

which makes mk10 that much more viable

[spare dome]

mk2 is too close to bretonian for me to not use it

[remote lark]

i dont see a point in taking mk2 anymore unless u just like it

[spare dome]

but also the push attack heavy heavy is just juicy af

and the two fast strikedown lights are my kind of shit

[violet hornet]

dipshits joining havoc lobbies and going afk lol

[remote lark]

let me fix ur sentence

dipshits

darktide

[old furnace]

MK2 feels like if you know how to get to that bit of the combo it has greater versatility?
But MK10 also just kinda, reaches that versatility immediately at the start of the combo?

Pretty sure MK2 has it for me just becuase the upper cut slash is weirdly useful at hitting the legs of bulwarks to finish them off lol

[atomic fjord]

My cat just turned into a burgle and puked on my foot

[tepid sorrel]

🤔

[atomic fjord]

Vile beastie

[remote lark]

mk2 - 2 overhead lights that ppl enjoy for specialists
mk10 - piety build that gives you invoc access which solves mobility issue if you take FOTF

both swords have practically identical access to horde clear combos

mk10 has better horde clear

(i'm leaning towards light spam being better than heavy loops on piety but im still unsure)

[grizzled aspen]

Uppercut makes the dopamine flow.

[remote lark]

personal preference

:p

[grizzled aspen]

Also the l1 l2 block cancel is peak for rager swarms.

[spare dome]

scientifically proven

[lusty turtle]

We did it on a few weapons

[misty ravine]

Uppercut appeals to people who are somehow nostalgic for kerillian glaive

[spare dome]

bret longsword but yea kinda

[remote lark]

okay

i go sleep now

byebye zealot chat

[sterile basalt]

Mk10 is kind of better but mk2 has a cool PA horde clear

[spare dome]

and the light light heavy heavy repeat combo for single target is fun

[old furnace]

L1 L2 cancel is fun for ragers but H3 H4 somehow feels safer? I think it has more stagger

[grizzled aspen]

L1 l2 is faster and you don't risk having to mess up your cleave because it's overheads only.

Go into a game and just do l1 block cancel and see how fast you can do it.

It is really fast.

[old furnace]

Oh I know its super fast. I guess I just dont trust my positioning on it yet to properly kite without getting chipped by a rager pack lol

[grizzled aspen]

Also, block cancel lets you do l1 h4 so you can aim your chastise well.

Instant rager oneshot.

[old furnace]

hm neat, will give that combo a go 😄

Do you play relics with martyrdom? or the uh, blazing piety crit one?

[grizzled aspen]

I use piety and take advantage of stalwart and crit cdr.

You need the attack speed and I don't feel comfortable with relic blade on martyrdom due to low hp.

If it had better dodges, I'd use martyrdom, but since the dodges are jank, I do not.

[old furnace]

Ahh, yeah I've been doing martyr which, feels nice damage wise but I am a bit slowwwww... Will give piety a go!

[atomic fjord]

I don’t like the relic blade I think it’s boring

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-gif-11630051

[zealous basin]

-devils claw users

[spare dome]

i just went IJ cause damn it zealots just be that way

[atomic fjord]

It’s just another momentum weapon

[zealous basin]

[atomic fjord]

There’s no reason to not be overheated 24/7 if you’re competent at all

[spare dome]

even worse is that tknives make so much sense with rblade

cause swapping off turns the active back off

you dont wanna be stuck reactivating it every time a special shows up

[violet hornet]

labor of love

[grizzled aspen]

Then explode.

There's no point in arguing with you if you're choosing to be willfully wrong.

[copper hawk]

Agree

It stinks

If only we got the FGS,,

[heady quail]

Anyone else find themselves never using the Blitz?

[foggy coral]

Only when I'm not bringing knives

Stun and immolation I keep saving for a real emergency that barely ever comes, knives I hand out like halloween candy

[heady quail]

I wanna start writing a Zealot guide. Any name ideas?

[lean lark]

dont write one

its useless

[grizzled aspen]

If I ever bring actual grenades for whatever reason, I never bother throwing them because of my single player rpg brain (I may need it later).

[lean lark]

and a waste of time for both the reader and the maker

[grizzled aspen]

We've been over this, you are so very wrong.

Shamelessly wrong, too.

[heady quail]

I don't have any better use for that time anyways

[lean lark]

people still ask questions about ogryn in ogryn chat even though they have a super indepth guide, just keep answering questions here

[grizzled aspen]

So much info goes unknown and has to be taught to newcomers its not even funny.

[foggy coral]

Depends. Ogrynomicon is good because it actually tells about the nuts and bolts behind the scenes, how shit stacks, what you need for breakpoints, etc.

[grizzled aspen]

Did you seriously say the ogrynomicon is "in depth"?

That's laughable.

You want an in depth guide, go look at Path's guide for vet.

[lean lark]

yeah some people here are nerds who will gladly answer those questions/have answered them

[misty ravine]

"I might need it later" + "relying on pickups is for suckers, imagine not generating your own grenades lmao"

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway, @heady quail , as far as I know, Dorn, a very good player (I am not meatriding, this is a fact), is still in the process of writing The Holiest Book for us.

In fact I just confirmed it.

[rocky nacelle]

the dorn in question

[grizzled aspen]

Terrorism.

The context of that clip is still fuckin hilarious.

They didn't even jump at him, the door just opened and they exploded.

[harsh prawn]

relic or dueling?

[harsh prawn]

ive seen 50/50 on zealots

[misty ravine]

Dueling is meta, relic is A E S T H E T I C

[heady quail]

Depends on what you value more. Mobility, or feeling powerful

[rocky nacelle]

1 jumped out

you can barely see it do the jump animation from the darkness of the door

but there was like 10 all together in the doorway

[misty ravine]

Doorbursters will literally never be fixed

[rocky nacelle]

💣

[surreal shore]

which one is better now

mark 2 or mark 10?

[grizzled aspen]

Oh from my POV the door just opened and Dorn straight up died instantly in a fleshy green explosion.

[heady quail]

Link please

[misty ravine]

Pretty much down to which moveset you prefer

[grizzled aspen]

According to Lumii's research, mk10 is better, but mk2 has some more interesting niche usecases.

[harsh prawn]

i like closing the gap and 1-2 shotting

[grizzled aspen]

Go look in the pins in vet chat.

[harsh prawn]

havent tried the relic yet

[marble maple]

Is there any hidden free cosmetics for each class or all the one I can see is just all the available free cosmetics

[grizzled aspen]

Ds is agility and single target at the cost of horde clear, relic is single target and horde clear at the cost of agility. Pick your poison.

[heady quail]

Then DS is your choice. Relic can 1shot too, but has less mobility for closing the gap

[misty ravine]

Relic Blade closes the cap slower and is much more finicky about doing le funny poke than the Dueling Sword is

[modern lintel]

mk2 is the true gamers choice

[grizzled aspen]

My man. 🤝

[harsh prawn]

i have the braced auto for hordes

[frozen kernel]

It just looks better too

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[frozen kernel]

Reminds me of the loyce greatsword from Dks2

[grizzled aspen]

The rosette on the mk10 draws too much attention, methinks.

[frozen kernel]

Look at that

[heady quail]

MK2 is better for accessing the single target combos but has a finicky horde combo in drawn out fights

[arctic saffron]

agree on aesthetics of mk2, but i prefer the moveset on mk10

[frozen kernel]

Mmph

So much bridge pvp with that baby

[undone pewter]

mk2 is so much fun

[harsh prawn]

the increased accuracy after dodging makes the braced auto broken

[violet hornet]

I've been using PA heavy heavy or PA heavy light for hordes on 2, seems to work well

[frozen kernel]

Doesnt Mk10 have a stab for the push attack?

[harsh prawn]

UI Goku ❌
UI Zealot ✅

[frozen kernel]

Mk2 gets the eviscerator sweep, which is goated

For horde clear and style

[misty ravine]

I have a big =][= tattooed to my forehead already

[frozen kernel]

Because what else would you follow up a good shove with but decapitating several heretics at once?

[heady quail]

Light 3 has a bad angle, so you need to bc or push attack for hordes which both have drawbacks

[frozen kernel]

Anything else would be blasphemous

I usually PA, H1, H2, L3, H2, L3, etc

[grizzled aspen]

You don't even need to h1, btw.

PA chains to l3.

[frozen kernel]

You dont, but I like it for more sweeps

[misty ravine]

And my Psyker has a big eye tattooed to his forehead

[frozen kernel]

Makes me feel good hearing the squelch of like 5 enemies dying per swing

[grizzled aspen]

Valid, but I dont think the extra cleave is necessary for hordes.

[frozen kernel]

Nah, the straight combo of L3, heby, L3, heby is nasty good

[grizzled aspen]

And you have a large gap of time between the impact of your PA and your h1.

[frozen kernel]

That's the gamble baby

[grizzled aspen]

So I just do PA l3 h2 loop l3 h2 now.

[frozen kernel]

Staring into the face of the one scab with his bayonet like "Do it, hit me. I'm full toughness" before you cleave him and all of his buddies in twain

[grizzled aspen]

I look into the eyes of the 12 scab ragers that have just spawned and say, "ooga booga, I'm going to overhead you to death."

[rancid matrix]

Is ambuscade any good?

[misty ravine]

Good for faster Burglebolting but that's about it

[rancid matrix]

And is Thy Wrath Be Swift worth taking for Thammer?

[stone fern]

ofc

[misty ravine]

Yes. TWBS is great, it's even better for slow weapons, and it's borderline mandatory for Power or Chain weapons because getting staggered switches them off

[rancid matrix]

I’ve got three points left and getting TWBS would cost all of those last three points

[opal star]

this bolt pistol kinda slaps

[rancid matrix]

Whereas I could get sustained assault

[opal star]

for Thammer? yea

[misty ravine]

It also prevents stagger from ranged hits, or getting interrupted when a Pox Hound does literally anything in your neighborhood

[opal star]

twbs blocks pox hounds?

[rancid matrix]

Aight. Considering im using Bolter too, dance of death aint half bad for my loadout.

[misty ravine]

Stops you getting interrupted when they move near you

[opal star]

oh, that shit

[grizzled aspen]

Take flamer.

You will thank me later.

[opal star]

oh yeah

thammer's horde clear is uh

not the best

[grizzled aspen]

Abysmal.

Less than adequate is the nicest way to say it.

[opal star]

flamer with everlasting flame on a crit build ⁉️

[misty ravine]

It's also tricksy, knocking them around to make it look like you're clearing them

[rancid matrix]

Its been serving me well enough so far

[opal star]

me gaslighting myself into thinking the crusher is doing more than it actually does

[grizzled aspen]

If you run crit hammer, I will destroy you.

[rancid matrix]

Teehee :3

[opal star]

😇

[grizzled aspen]

You do IJ hammer or you don't run hammer.

[opal star]

(I don't even play thammer)

[north sedge]

Hammer clear is ok

[rancid matrix]

Whats IJ

[grizzled aspen]

Inexorable Judgment.

[north sedge]

Marty is fine too

[misty ravine]

Inexorable Judgement, right keystone

[grizzled aspen]

Right side keystone.

[north sedge]

Either works

[opal star]

blazing piety relic blade 😋

[tepid sorrel]

i love darktide

[rancid matrix]

Idk, crit build seems to work pretty well on Thammer…

[grizzled aspen]

There's a hidden part of IJ that improves your dodges so you aren't a fucking slug with hammer.

[north sedge]

Crit hammer is not good

[opal star]

what fucking node doesn't have a hidden part to it

[north sedge]

Run either of the other keystones for hammer

[hard nexus]

weapon specialist

[grizzled aspen]

At this point, I don't know.

[opal star]

is there a hidden component HERE

[rancid matrix]

Plus the blazing piety route has really good ability uptime which lets me hoard clear way easier

[grizzled aspen]

Yes it's called "you are the best class in the game despite your shitty talents and point taxes."

[opal star]

true!

[misty ravine]

Yes (hidden class-specific traits like stamina regen delay, etc.)

[forest nymph]

hows this maul?

[opal star]

that is indeed a shock maul

[tepid sorrel]

that's where we hide the friends you made along the way

[opal star]

you mean the bodies

[tepid sorrel]

no the friends

[forest nymph]

does electrocuted count as staggard?

[misty ravine]

Yes the friends (bodies)

[tepid sorrel]

our friends do have bodies

[misty ravine]

Not all of them

[grizzled aspen]

Get one with a mobility dump, maul is not very good on its base damage so you need as much help as you can get. You want flak, elites (I think?), high voltage, and skullcrusher.

[forest nymph]

danke

[grizzled aspen]

I do want to say zealout wants elites as the second perk but, disclaimer, I could be wrong.

[forest nymph]

ill prolly just chuck carapace on it

[spare dome]

its been a while so i cant recall

you really want skullcrusher + high voltage and after that it almost doesnt matter

cause the next important thing is either hammer of faith and/or grievous wounds

i cant remember which

if you can actually stagger important things with the club then skullcrusher has this uncanny trick of turning every enemy into a three tap

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-im-squidward-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14639116

[spare dome]

but if you dont have that stagger threshold met then it becomes an absolute slog

veteran gets away with it because VoC is an ondemand stagger and veteran is stupid in general

[red swift]

I've decided Piety is the way to go for Relic Sword

Works a lot better for me

[wintry crag]

I got a revolver with 80 stats on everything except reload 60 is it good?

[pliant otter]

I mean is fine but I prefer mobility for 60 stats, you will reload a lot with revolver

[wintry crag]

I see

Still trying to find the meta build for zealot

[median shoal]

Looks like Relic Blade from what I can tell

Loving it

[wintry crag]

Relic sword is amazing yh

[vagrant blade]

whats the fastest way to reach strikedown heavy with the mk2 relic sword ?

[spare dome]

light into heavy

[fleet zealot]

flat fuck saturday

[tight scroll]

the fuck is indeed flat

and very adorbs

[rocky nacelle]

what if these were actually all bandits pictures and they’ve been reincarnated to post ferrets every time

in every life

[rancid matrix]

What should I run on the duelling sword? Blessings and perks

And what mark should I run

[misty nova]

4 for brain off

Riposte Precognition

Thrust Riposte

Thrust Precognition

Uncanny Riposte

Uncanny Precognition

[rancid matrix]

So what im getting is, ripost, precognition and thrust are all good

[opaque island]

what if we kissed in Havoc 40 right in front of the chaos captain

[misty nova]

Rampage Precognition

[wraith cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-emperor-warhammer40000-warhammer40k-astartes-gif-14334202

[misty nova]

Oh Agile on the DS5

For memes purpose

https://tenor.com/view/dodges-roblox-roblox-meme-gif-3270780379615106785

[red swift]

DS5 and IJ this is the way

[rancid matrix]

Ok ngl idk how to use the duelling sword

[misty nova]

Dueling Sword 101

Lights for hordes

Heavies for elites and whatnot

Your special attack is a quick poke with a lot of stagger

[wraith cipher]

why are people making a case for 5?

[misty nova]

It has the funny long dodges because of Mobi and Defense stats

Inexorable Judgment keystone buffs your dodges

[wraith cipher]

you need both at 80 or just mobility?

[misty nova]

You can dump defences

[wraith cipher]

time to try funni dodge lol

[violet hornet]

shrimply stab everyone

[misty nova]

Because like
All the other stats are damage related

Damage Penetration Finesse

[wraith cipher]

i thought we were going all in for the meme build

i was going to dump one of those lol

[misty nova]

And there's this concept of Uncanny Strike making up for low Penetration stat

[rancid matrix]

So should I heavy special for elites?

Or just heavy spam

[violet hornet]

heavy special is likely more dps since the special can follow up very quickly

and loops you back to h1

[wraith cipher]

if youre running thrust maybe not spam

and aim more

[hoary river]

Why isn't cleave the dump stat?

[misty nova]

Cleave Damage is the second dump stat

[wraith cipher]

it can be, i find 80 mobility a little overkill

[misty ravine]

Depends on the elite and the mark. DS4 typically just spams heavy. DS2 do the Heavy>Special loop because the Heavy 2 is a slash. Don't know about DS5. If you miss the one-headshot kill on Ragers a lot (they might hit you before you kill them), or barely miss a headshot breakpoint against something, I'd follow a Heavy with a Special

[misty nova]

Dueling Sword has poor cleave damage distribution

[misty nova]

But cleave damage affects like 10 damage on the first target

[wraith cipher]

i also have a dump stat of each mobility and cleave

and to tbh i dont feel the difference

[lunar fable]

[grand tangle]

Uhhhhhh..

[opaque island]

I got them to unsync and now it looks like a mutant cat

[lunar fable]

[misty nova]

Hmmmmmmm

[lunar fable]

[misty nova]

DS cleave targets only affects Flak, Unarmored and Infested!?!??¿‽

[violet hornet]

Party finder is hilarious, it lets you list your strike team as 35-40 havoc when you have any level havoc mission

[light badge]

How much does that unsupressable enemy effect come into play on Havoc? Trying to decide if I wanna play purgatus or not

[violet hornet]

I could feel the team's dissapointment when I put forth a sub 20 havoc mission lmao

[rocky nacelle]

Purgatus still broke

dw

[lunar fable]

people actually do that

[misty nova]

Pretty sure only enemies affected by Cranial Corruption have the suppression immunity

[lunar fable]

they list a high havoc and have a low rank mission

[stable cypress]

Yes

[sullen forge]

Mixed bag

Gunners and reapers are especially dangerous with them

[misty ravine]

I mean, you're not gonna be cleaving Carapace or Unyielding with it

[light badge]

So keep playing Blaze trauma bubble basically

[haughty haven]

Wait does book like actually make you immune to damage? I coulda swore just got smacked by a sniper shot and it didn't do shit

[south folio]

no, what book does is give you until death's effect

you will still take HP damage but will remain alive at 1 HP regardless of the damage taken

[light badge]

(I swapped to true aim so if I'm not spamming the absolute hell out of the force sword special I can usually always get some burn going

[naive stirrup]

it does NOT give holy revenant though so if you fall to 1hp consider yourself fucked

[frosty herald]

If you dont know chorus gives overtoughness stay out of my havocs

[light badge]

Also, shoutout battle meditation

Genuinely, goated node for higher Havoc

[spare dome]

genuinely unsure if i have ever once even a single time gotten value out of this interaction

[south folio]

i've seen it a few times on havoc at least

one was when we got cornered on a bridge and had to walk through fire, and somebody got dinked to 1 hp

another time was when i also got DPSed down by cranial corrupted ranged

[spare dome]

its funny since if you pull it out odds are the gold toughness is already preventing the down

so yea itd have to be a pretty wild scenario

[south folio]

yeah it's such an awesome effect and yet it doesn't happen much because of the regen and absurd CC

make the entire team on 1 hp

[spare dome]

like a dude eating six sniper shots simultaneously

[south folio]

shlerp

[spare dome]

or one havoc shotgunner

[light badge]

Havoc shotgunners reminded me that I am in fact not that guy

Swapped to bubble when one of them one tapped me as I rushing him in melee lol

[sullen forge]

I mean if you want to be better safe than sorry absolutely

But again it doesn’t hurt seeing psyker can get away with a lot of things on havoc unlike

The rest of the classes

Lmao

[neon field]

what is this creature

[fleet zealot]

ferret

[sullen forge]

@light badge anyways you’re quickly noticing a pattern of what’s the deadliest on havoc right LMAO

[neon field]

i wanna eat it

[misty nova]

Don't the cat

I mean

Don't the " flat fuck"

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-nibble-shark-bite-shark-chomp-sand-tiger-gif-7675202316987505233

[light badge]

fucking

[fleet zealot]

don't, they are nothing but fur and noodle bones

[light badge]

scab stalkers

[sullen forge]

Stalkers, Gunners and Reapers

The Trio of 100-0 in seconds

[light badge]

I want a bio-targeting vet on the team exclusively so I don't get jumpscared by stalkers

[light badge]

unironically, gunners are less threatening than stalkers for me

gunner resist goes hard

[rocky nacelle]

noob cant handle the unpingable assassins

[sullen forge]

I hope you know

Path

Is unironically smoke pilled now

Cause of Havoc

LMAO

[light badge]

holy fucking lol

[sullen forge]

Just cause of how bad the stalkers can get

[light badge]

seals it in then that I use dome lmao

[sullen forge]

He’d rather toss smokes

[light badge]

even if the gunners delete it, it's still worth the 'no stalker zone' button

[sullen forge]

I should probably make a havoc smoke build also

[pallid hemlock]

Havoc giving smokes a redemption arc

[rocky nacelle]

me returning to dirty bubble after using gunker forever

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

[light badge]

I made the mistake of playing havoc 21 without much soulblaze on my build last night

I could take out the gunners by just rationing my bubbles but holy fuck my horde clear was bad lol

[light badge]

BABY

❤️

@sullen forge crackhead theory

[sullen forge]

Hi

[light badge]

I think I play better with shriek because it's a faster cooldown that I can use as a panic stagger

rather than dome, which requires a bit more nuance

not to mention the super safe ranged damage

[sullen forge]

Even though Dome is generally frowned upon for being easy

Havoc will teach you how to position it

[rocky nacelle]

dome for biggus dickus

[sullen forge]

Cause those fucking EFL gunners man

They shred that shit INSTANTLY

[rocky nacelle]

How many psykers would explode if I told them you can preview where wall and bubbles can be put down by holding the ability

I wonder

[sullen forge]

Anyways Soulblaze with born in fire kinda goated for warpstacks though

[gleaming furnace]

Your ferret posting brings me great happiness

[sullen forge]

A lot

I tend to do that at times

[rocky nacelle]

I always preview

hold F then place

[gleaming furnace]

No fn way

[rocky nacelle]

another pro tip game doesn’t tell you

shoving is 360

👍🏽

[sullen forge]

Yup

[fast iron]

is the ferret also a zealot

[midnight quest]

what be the best zealot gun? I've been enjoying the laspistol but figure there's better options