zealot-class

[frosty herald]

also swap over to a chorus build

[ornate bone]

🙏 ty

[misty nova]

20+ yeah

Havoc got hands

[stone fern]

shit reply didnt stick

[placid fiber]

playstation 1!

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/morr-gluu-gif-20563485

Use this next time

[misty nova]

WTH is No Straight Roads about

🗣️

[rocky nacelle]

TLDR

ending racism

but music

👍

its super good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jziXjjJcHA

its got the no more heroes thing goin on, where its just a boss rush game basically

its pretty sick/ost is good/and gameplay is fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-FQwsdXtsg

[misty nova]

I've been listening to vs. Sayu for the past 6 months and decided to check yesterday

Lmao

[rocky nacelle]

millions upon billions upon trillions of stars

my music spans the cosmos

what have you done today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLrfLFcV_wM

[rocky nacelle]

yeah that sounds about right everyone knows sayu and her theme

even people who havent played the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTLQat6LOwA

[twilit basalt]

what are you guys using for revolver/knife for chorus builds?

feel like sword might be better? but the mobility is just too peak on knife

[slender belfry]

brothar

relic sword + flak maniac right ?

[stone fern]

it does good damage already against most things i think maniac might get you some breakpoints with ragers

i think i have unyielding flak tho for more boss damage

or flak carapace i dont remember

[frank night]

I've tended to put unarmored on there instead of flak for purposes of offing bruisers but that's feelycraft rather than something I've tested breakpoints on

also because the director seems to be in love with dreg gunners right now

[placid fiber]

Is it story based?

I've never heard of it

[wheat locust]

Hi folks. Sorry to interrupt.

I'll be starting playing this weekend. I have zero experience with the game and the Tide series in general, but I've read that starting with zealot or ogryn is a good as it makes you learn melee mechanics and positioning. Is that true? I'm more interested in zealot than ogryn but wanted to hear from you first.

[placid fiber]

IF you want a class that is better suited for melee zealot or ogryn is a good start

Ogryn is bigger and slower, so it can be tough for a fresh tide player

they might be more tanky, but, they are also bigger targets with worse dodges

[winter furnace]

yeah

[frank night]

might be bias cos it's zealot channel

[hushed knoll]

Hi

[placid fiber]

Not here, I'm explaining the 2 melee classes

[frank night]

but zealot also gives you a better start in the various guns

[placid fiber]

Doesn't matter that I zealot main either :3

[frank night]

I'm saying it's myyyyyyy bias

[placid fiber]

Ah

[frank night]

cos ogryn kit is unique to ogryn

[winter furnace]

zealot or vet are probably your best bets if you wanna meaningfully engage with the game early on and get a grasp of mechanics before really getting into things imo

yeah

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

If you want help I can probably help this weekend, or sometime later today, to help guide you on how to use the mechanics better @wheat locust

[winter furnace]

based

[winter furnace]

incredible...

[wheat locust]

You're very kind, but I'll be able to play only on Sunday and I'll just roll around and see what's up. But I'll surely try the class. Thank you. 😄

[frank night]

the ferret posting lives on

[fleet zealot]

I am eternal

[slender belfry]

Hmmmmm

About relic sword bleesing

[vast basin]

cranial+rampage or cranial+wrath if you are pushing high havoc

[frank night]

I like rampage and then what fast typer guy said

[slender belfry]

I’ll try the second one

[frank night]

in just auric damnation I've tried a few other ones like the power from heat and heat reduction from headshots

[slender belfry]

I’m on havoc

[vast basin]

yeah I tried rampage+leakage in AM and it felt alright

if you go double heat reduction blessings apparently you can keep powered up state for a solid minute

[frank night]

I haven't played havoc enough to figure out where auric hi shock sits vs havoc levels

[slender belfry]

About lv 20-25 i think

[vast basin]

about lvl20 havoc is where auric 5s sit Id say

[frank night]

me oh my

[slender belfry]

Because my highest havoc lv is 26

LOL

[frank night]

it goes up to 40?

[vast basin]

yep

[frank night]

wowee

[vast basin]

if you start pushing the high 30s a premade is highly suggested, although not mandatory

[gusty flare]

So dont sabotagd team mates on high 30s

Got it

[slender belfry]

I wanna reach lv40

But got skill issue

xd

[twilit basalt]

nobody is playing knife revolver chorus?

[placid fiber]

I remember when knife revolver was just a meme lol

[winter furnace]

i thought it still was

[frank night]

revolver went on a rocky training montage

[winter furnace]

i mean true yeah

[frank night]

it used to be the jokester gun like last year

[twilit basalt]

a year

ago

[frank night]

and knife was the 'I am contributing by making all the enemies have bleeding effects before my teammates kill them for me' weapon

[winter furnace]

yeah thats when i stopped playing for a while and i only came back recently

yeah

[placid fiber]

Knife and revolver are op now lol

[winter furnace]

surprising

i mean i've heard about revolver

[frank night]

fatshark still hasnt forgiven the autopistol tho

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[placid fiber]

the dueling sword outclasses it, so you probably don't hear how good the knife is as much

[copper hawk]

The shauto

[winter furnace]

yeah

[lean lark]

autopistol was usable back during launch talent trees on vet

[placid fiber]

Autopistol go to op for a bit

[lean lark]

vet's first talent tree iteration made your shredder kill a crusher in 13 shots

[winter furnace]

i remember when autopistol was good....

[placid fiber]

then fatshark threw it into the pit

[frank night]

i remember when autopistol was w + shoot simulator

[placid fiber]

I remember when there wasn't a blessing change option at hadron

[winter furnace]

i miss that version of autopistol

[vast basin]

shredder was op for anyone who could use it

[vast basin]

so busted

[frank night]

the meta of trying to roll an auto pistol that would break the game

[lean lark]

im fine with it being gutted

[frank night]

me have pinning fire me have blaze away me have pre-rework volley fire

[twilit basalt]

you get book like every 20s in havoc

[placid fiber]

I don't care if it is still gutted, I just want it to be at least mid

It is so bad right now... that mid vastly outclasses it lol

[lean lark]

if they gave it a higher weakspot/crit dmg mult it'd be neat for crit builds

[placid fiber]

Aww man... but I've already caught this pokemon...

[spare talon]

I just did true survivor and h40 in a party finder group where we climbed through almost all the 30s in a straight shot lmao

[north sedge]

"Was" is the real key word in his post, we're talking about the past

[placid fiber]

Sweet, I caught a warrior wasp

[frank night]

we are in a way better place weapons wise

[placid fiber]

Welp I'm gonna go get my meds

o7

[vast basin]

this is why I said not mandatory

[twilit basalt]

? what a pointless thing to tag me for

[winter furnace]

my issue is that there's no other weapons that fill the niche that are that good

[frank night]

this will surely not get him tagged more

[north sedge]

#zealot-class message

[rocky nacelle]

.

[crude dove]

nice weather outside

[frank night]

definitely not pre-broken kneecaps autopistol good but the infantry autos kinda moved into its house a bit

[winter furnace]

they dont handle fast enough for me

[frank night]

gadzooks

[north sedge]

Plus you can't use your biceps to flex more stagger into the bullets like on autopistol

[frank night]

yeah ye olde pinning fire

is gonezo

[delicate shadow]

use the glutes instead ofc

[winter furnace]

i might honestly just use the autopistol just because

[north sedge]

Well, adsing autopistol adds more stagger still, just a goofy thing about that gun

[astral brook]

So, what should I put on my combat knife?

[delicate shadow]

a DS4

[crude dove]

extended mag

[frank night]

the accident wasnt your fault you need to move on

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/onlyjoeyd-joeyd-joey-squats-squat-gif-22105072

[vast basin]

depends what your talent tree looks like. I know dorn was an advocate for uncanny+lacerate with ij

[delicate shadow]

me preparing for error 9999

[astral brook]

im using blazing piety

[north sedge]

I've yet to be so lucky, though I've done like two havocs so

[copper hawk]

Im using crack cocaine

[frank night]

sure u are drug tested boy

[vast basin]

if you are piety then precog+riposte probably

[delicate shadow]

riposte+precog is fun, otherwise you can go uncanny+precog or uncanny+riposte

[violet hornet]

Cultural appropriation

[frank night]

signalis mentioned

[copper hawk]

Oh it's mittins

The grubs have returned

[frank night]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweaking-by-the-nine-im-tweaking-signalis-signalis-game-gif-14031434859351507230

[copper hawk]

Grubwars grubwars grubwars !!

[slate haven]

@remote lark

Last night

[astral brook]

alright sweet, and for perks just flak and maniac?

[rocky nacelle]

im tellign

[copper hawk]

Labor of love bro

Labor of love

[slate haven]

I just instant transmissioned

[winter furnace]

im just tweaking because ive tried nearly every gun availlable to zealot and none of them feel good

[copper hawk]

The best part of that clip is being teleported back into it

[slate haven]

Ikr

I was lagging

I dodge

[umbral kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[slate haven]

“NUH UH”

[astral brook]

so it was lag?

[slate haven]

I was lagging really bad

[astral brook]

Yeah then i dont think thats the games fault

[rocky nacelle]

brain lag

[slate haven]

Like I DC’d twice the game before

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j7zdvoGBSQViPPEHh/spok?invite=cr-MSxxbDQsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[crude dove]

rather this than a barrel exploding you into a poxburster

[twilit basalt]

you're playing knife also? @astral brook

[frank night]

the real zealot gun are the BLADES OF FAITH

[delicate shadow]

I'm still brauto gang

[astral brook]

yeah, trying one out

[sullen forge]

Oh you too? So I’m not tweaking when I get grabbed by a mutant when I dodged anyways lmao

FS servers 🚬

[astral brook]

[twilit basalt]

ive been using mercy killer uncanny strike w melee crit & flak armour

[frank night]

my honest reaction to being eaten alive

[delicate shadow]

a lil snack

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jb9lfQOyhYxmKXg-M/spok?invite=cr-MSwxTTYsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jbdgj1JofEmZhodOO/spok?invite=cr-MSxVa28sMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

Many such cases

[lunar fable]

labor of love

[delicate shadow]

wow Arcane's art style really changed in the new season

[winter furnace]

yeah but i'd still like something that wont take 30 years to pull out and/or reload

[frank night]

ofc you're wearing the leopard print clothing

[red swift]

I’d always recommend unyielding on knife, you don’t really need maniac, even ragers and mutants can die in one hit with a duelist crit headshot.

I’m an uncanny/lacerate IJ user

[copper hawk]

Brynn-the-Felinid

Requirez it

[frank night]

yeaaaah it doesnt really have anything that is quick handling and also full auto

[crude dove]

zealot mini gun coming soon

[untold nebula]

just got to level 30 zealot!

[frank night]

while also being good

[twilit basalt]

lacerate feel good?

[untold nebula]

now i can play the game lmao

[copper hawk]

Nop

Go my error code 2014 scarab !

[red swift]

With uncanny and IJ yeah, takes some practice to use it fully effectively. The synergy with scourge and rending feels great

[astral brook]

this is such a cute skin, its like a candy cane

[twilit basalt]

ill give it a go ty boss, whats your dump stat

[distant lintel]

What do we put onto the Relic Blade?
Blessings/Perks

[crude dove]

im not buying the shop knife skin because i feel like this one is already good tbh

i need a good combat blade skin to come out tho

[north sedge]

Nothing is better than ogryn pickaxe with mastery skin, giant candy cane

[vast basin]

check pins

[red swift]

My main knife dumps mobility, you can try dumping damage though and see if you like it.

[fleet zealot]

bringing moo deng back in these trying times

[astral brook]

heres what I use to great success

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/alaynakitty-gif-24003963

@sullen forge exploring new map

[red swift]

Idk man 78% finesse, dead weapon

[rocky nacelle]

liking it so far

[astral brook]

true..

[twilit basalt]

the same

[rocky nacelle]

its pretty crazy lookin map

[winter furnace]

yeah, would be awesome if i could use the full auto mod for a laspistol but console

[crude dove]

ur not dedicated

[frank night]

have u considered getting an RSI

[crude dove]

work that trigger finger

[rocky nacelle]

ok blab this is co

[frank night]

in the name of the emperor

[red swift]

Nice

[winter furnace]

already have

[twilit basalt]

im surprised not many people are playing this what with how much book is needed in higher havoc

[red swift]

I don’t like taking 5% crit chance though, seems low value to me compares to other perks

[frank night]

the ol' knuckle makes the cement mixer noise after playing combat axe for one match

[twilit basalt]

i just like the qol of getting a crit to start things off

[fleet zealot]

fotf starts crit off tho

?

and knife has a high base crit chance as is

[delicate shadow]

they're using book

[fleet zealot]

ahh

[delicate shadow]

if I'm following this right

[fleet zealot]

i still don't like it for reason 2

[red swift]

It’s 20, with lacerate you get to 50 with scourge pretty easily

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/voices-the-voices-the-voices-tell-me-to-do-horrible-things-cat-gif-6984091337784405754

[delicate shadow]

yea I wouldn't run crit perk but eh

[astral brook]

okay i fixed it

[red swift]

Bandit have you tried a lacerate uncanny knife

[fleet zealot]

yes LOL

then i played with flesh tearer, then I moved on from bleed and used riposte/precog like a normal person

it's called character growth

[twilit basalt]

yeah im playing book

[red swift]

Riposte precog is strong nothing wrong with that

[astral brook]

perfect

[twilit basalt]

just felt better this way through continuous play @fleet zealot

[red swift]

Uncanny lacerate is just as strong though imo I’m not coping

[fleet zealot]

[vast basin]

why have 2? you know you can change the mark for free

[fleet zealot]

i'm not being baited

i'm not being BAITED

[astral brook]

because I can.

[vast basin]

ok

[delicate shadow]

it's kinda funny how Zelchat, on some level, is forever stuck in 2021

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-voices-hitori-gotoh-bocchi-the-rock-breakdown-gif-17673193864152554221

[twilit basalt]

its almost like its a game and people play to their own preferences

[rocky nacelle]

@lunar fable today is the day

[astral brook]

im only here cause relic blade made me like playing zealot again

[rocky nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1076350592890445844.webp?size=96

[astral brook]

otherwise id be moonlight greatswording

[delicate shadow]

based

[astral brook]

i love the greatswords theyre so much fun

[untold nebula]

I love it so much

which is surprising, because I normally don't love red weapon skins

but that and the combat shotgun are cute to me

helps that the combat shotgun looks like a race car and i was using it for my go fast build

[frank night]

you know some tech priest had to personally paint all the little checkers on

because it's a relic now

[north sedge]

I'm waiting for the inevitable rush of flesh tearer lacerate knives

[frank night]

zelchat much like josho has brain damage

[delicate shadow]

returning to tradition

[north sedge]

And stan's most sensitive and raw of zones

[lunar fable]

5 WOUND SOYKER IN MY HAVOC 21

it's so joever

[winter furnace]

no sorry thats not allwoed anymore everyone has to play to my preferences forever

[delicate shadow]

wdym, bro is READY

[twilit basalt]

[vast basin]

martyrdom psyker is a true classic

[rocky nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1076350592890445844.webp?size=96

[placid fiber]

Just like martyrdom oggy

[sullen forge]

Nearly ran an all nighter but I nearly know how to do all the sword upgrades, gonna nap for a bit but when I’m up I’m done to down Citadelle Des Morts

[placid fiber]

It would kind of be funny if oggies did get a keystone like martyrdom, but, it worked differently

[vast basin]

nah hp maxing ogryns who throw down a medipack and eat the whole thing is where its at

[placid fiber]

give them... movement speed and attack speed instead of damage and attack speed!

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-gif-20482851

[placid fiber]

bonus movement speed and attack speed would help the oggies feel so much less sluggish lol

Instead of feeling like your trying to swim through molasses you would feel like your trying to swim through somewhat thick water instead lol

[sullen forge]

Look man huge tip from me

Melee machi with the vampire augment

Is needed

[placid fiber]

This is unironically how it probably looks to my wife when I'm doing the gamer dance lol

[sullen forge]

Or else the swords are incredibly risky using

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-no-goofy-ah-schwarzenegger-gif-3232264195128170765

only a non zealot player would say that

[placid fiber]

I have to duct tape my carpet down

[rocky nacelle]

🚬

[placid fiber]

otherwise it gets really bunched up

[sullen forge]

Wait till wave 35+

You’ll see what I mean

Doppelghasts are a huge breath of fresh air cause they’re dangerous as fuck

But incredibly squishy

[hard nexus]

i have to play the new map at some point

[sullen forge]

Also new map song is a banger

[sullen forge]

I played it like 3 times

Genuinely

Der Eisen Tier imo

It’s so fucking good

[placid fiber]

Huh... I thought I'd have more mods to update than this...

[vast basin]

powerdi still not updated

[rocky nacelle]

doppelghast is lite work

[hard nexus]

ooo

pawesome

[rocky nacelle]

doppelghast is a wannabe twitcher from dead space

shit is ez

[hard nexus]

dead space naemod

menaiton

nemtioned

mendtions

[rocky nacelle]

eat brick

[hard nexus]

mentioned

there we go

[empty python]

thinking of trying out shock & awe on thammer to go havoc :V

[placid fiber]

Meow are you drunk? lol

[hard nexus]

no just tired

[rocky nacelle]

how do you manage to have tourettes through text

[hard nexus]

and a bit stupid

[rocky nacelle]

or a stutter

[placid fiber]

It was 1 of the 2 lol

[rocky nacelle]

only a bit?

[hard nexus]

yarp

[placid fiber]

Yeah, they hadn't talked that much to me yet

I got something I'm looking forward to coming out later this month

dungeons of infinity update

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-brain-loading-gif-20731521

[drowsy steppe]

2021 was 3 years ago

[placid fiber]

Hey, how'd you get a picture of my brain...

[rocky nacelle]

also very tragic my homeboy got 1 million essence but the calling card is kill 1 million zombies

[placid fiber]

Sounds rough, I think. Is that a cod zombies thing?

[viral hare]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2552449561869049764

[placid fiber]

I haven't really played many zombie games

I did really like the rifles in this game tho

[viral hare]

darktide is basically a zombie game

[placid fiber]

True... there's poxwalkers... and smykers...

The latter being the true scourge of this game

[placid fiber]

Btw, Paradise... are smykers actually any more useful in havoc? Serious question. I don't promote smykers, but, I am curious

[viral hare]

ihatepsykerblitzes ihatepsykerblitzes ihatepsykerblitzes

[rocky nacelle]

if you really needed the stun

aka no one is running chorus

(for some reason if that were to happen)

[placid fiber]

I've heard chorus is the goat for havoc

same for the taunt on the ogryn

[viral hare]

chorus is borderline mandatory for high levels

Unless you got 4 god gamers

[placid fiber]

Instead of a rusty ass gamer like myself? lol

When I was at my peak I was getting away with heavy sword + brauto on a stealth build lol

[candid marlin]

Hey which iron hammer was it that can bash through enemies without stopping on one enemy?

[viral hare]

Ironhelm

[candid marlin]

Oki thank you

[placid fiber]

Ironhelm is the one that cleaves on the special

[violet hornet]

I ran FotF on a havoc 39 last night and did like 700-800k before I died, definitely helped that the other two zealots had chorus on

[viral hare]

Corruption aura is also op for havoc because of the goop

[placid fiber]

The main thing I am excited about is ogryns finally getting a flashlight from the update... aside from the 2h power sword

[violet hornet]

Yeah someone definitely had this on and it helped immensely

[placid fiber]

I've heard how op the force sword is, but, I am not sure I want to play my psyker much yet

[north sedge]

Eat the goop to gain the bonies sense of humor

[rocky nacelle]

@misty nova https://open.spotify.com/track/0SaXNrWm2JO4SRU5DwxPHJ?si=a2ca10b64ea049f0

[viral hare]

It basically negates the modifier entirely once people take more than 20-ish corruption damage, because it stops eating at your hp after that

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle

the soyker wandered off

twice during the smelter part

[spare dome]

I spent all night dreaming about the MKII Relic Blade combo

[lunar fable]

and then rage quit

[north sedge]

I enjoy the force gs a bit more than the relic surprisingly

[spare dome]

I do not have a problem.

[north sedge]

Totally normal yes

[placid fiber]

I do that on normal intensity missions on my ogryn, since I know how to kill the corruption things by myself

same for my zealot

wouldn't try that on auric, maelstroms, or havoc tho

[lunar fable]

he was smite

[placid fiber]

Smykers are not known for their intelligence lol

[lunar fable]

me and the other zealots

were each 600k dmg

[placid fiber]

I feel like the only reason I would take smite would be I have a long ranged staff/gun, a solid melee, and I also wanted psykinetic's aura... hell even then I would just take bb

[spare dome]

smite is super good

just dont be constantly holding it down like a jackass

[viral hare]

Smite lets psyker players play with one hand and use the other for activities

[placid fiber]

smite is good in the right hands, the blitz just doesn't interest me at all

it doesn't help that 90-98% of smykers are terrible, tho, lol

[lunar fable]

a good smyker

that's like

one in a million

maybe even rarer

[placid fiber]

Yeah lol

A good rando is at least 1 in 1000 or 10000

[spare dome]

I'm seeing more and more tbh

[placid fiber]

a bit higher if you're on aurics

[spare dome]

Maybe my post helped

[viral hare]

issue with smite is that most staffs just do its job better, in fact that’s the problem with like all of psyker blitzes

[placid fiber]

lower if you're on heresy or below

[spare dome]

Or maybe that's just bias on my part

[lunar fable]

i was running chorus

[spare dome]

either way i havent actually gotten an honest to goodness hypermaxxed smyker in a while

[lunar fable]

so boring

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-11785869152558168067

[lunar fable]

and even more annoying

[placid fiber]

I've been doing a gunlugger build lately, which I consider as a meme build for me and my playstyle... and I generally don't take meme builds past heresy

[lunar fable]

when teammates don't take advantage of it

[spare dome]

lmao

[placid fiber]

It's a solid build, it's just a meme in my own eyes... even tho my heavy hitter build looks more like a meme...

[lone matrix]

i love the new relic greatsword

[lunar fable]

what the

[spare dome]

there was yesterday where i started to Smite a group of ragers, but the zealot ults with book, so i stopped, but then he also stopped cause he saw me zapping, and then we both looked at each other

[lunar fable]

one of the zealots was running all hp curios

crazy

[copper hawk]

@lunar fable

[lunar fable]

i had a moment in that mission

[copper hawk]

i can get on of u need help

[viral hare]

Would be cool if smite applied rending or something to make it a better support tool

[copper hawk]

on if*

[lunar fable]

where we had a rager pack

smyker got downed

[copper hawk]

im updatin slop of gloopy 6

but when i get on dtide we can toys

[placid fiber]

Just do what I do(for oggy): run 1 hp curio and 2 toughness curios... and have 409hp and 217 toughness...

[lunar fable]

i popped book and was looking back and forth between the other 2 guys and the downed psyker

(they did not pick him up)

[placid fiber]

it's 439hp if I do feel no pain cause of the 10% hp node

[lunar fable]

i finally got through havoc 21 with pubs

[placid fiber]

I kinda want to do 3 toughness curios on my oggy... but I don't have a 3rd 17% toughness curio on him

[lunar fable]

but it feels like a steep climb from here

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-bo6-black-ops-6-call-of-duty-black-ops-black-ops-6-is-calling-gif-1527333973842566120

[lunar fable]

i still wish you could inspect applicants' builds before you decide if you can accept them or not

[winged helm]

what's a combo for mk X relic blade?

[rocky nacelle]

ill fart tide later blab

like i said today is the day

ez 30+ grind

[lunar fable]

when

cause at 2pm

[viral hare]

I got through havoc 10-20 last night with pub bois, so far not too difficult just gotta use my brain a little. Looking forward to the difficulty later

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-path-of-exile-2-poe-poe-2-poe2-gif-10220168355466966859

[rocky nacelle]

oh right

its over

🎰

[lunar fable]

unless

the servers explode

cause 1m people have redeemed early access

[placid fiber]

Well... I think I'm gonna get on darktide and start working on leveling my oggy's heavy stubber mastery up... and maybe my zealot's 2h power sword as well :/

Almost forgot to repatch my mod loader lol

[remote magnet]

Patch notes include combos and theyre good

[placid fiber]

Btw, I have a question about havoc: Are there any lights out modifiers? :/

[lunar fable]

piety stealth

[lunar fable]

there is

[placid fiber]

Glad I know that ahead of time lol

[twilit basalt]

felt worse

[lunar fable]

too bad i have weapon customization disabled rn

[placid fiber]

What do you think... will this at least get me to level 8 mastery? lol

[lunar fable]

can't slap flashlights on anything

[rocky nacelle]

yes

[placid fiber]

You could use the weapons customization mod, slap a flashlight on all ranged weapons, then restart your game so it doesn't memory leak as soon

[lunar fable]

the thing is

it can crash my game

even if i don't customize

that happened yesterday

so i'm better off not taking any chances for now

[placid fiber]

idk if this is 100% correct, but, someone told me when you enter the customization thing it does something to your memory to cause a memory leak faster... so if you get on, customize your weapons, and then restart your game then it doesn't cause a memory leak as quickly. As long as it isn't just causing your game to crash every time, that is, lol

1 thing I gotta say is: putting towering presence right next to lychpin is such a huge quality of life change... it makes sense, imo, that those 2 are close to eachother. Sadly, for me, I have stopped using toughness regen speed on my oggy so that combo doesn't benefit me at all lol

[north sedge]

Can't believe they nerfed ogryn

[lunar fable]

i haven't even looked into the layout changes

[placid fiber]

ikr? oggy is completely useless now and can't be played

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[viscid sorrel]

Hey guys, can someone pls help me with a zealot penance?

[north sedge]

They moved 3 nodes, it's pretty apocalyptic

Mean while, just mowing everything down with heavy stubber

[full moss]

Tried the zealot flamer and am kinda bored of it. I did torch work better on psyker

[wraith cipher]

does havoc not have diamantine and platsteel?

[crude dove]

i don't think so, but it makes sense since you get them in a chest the next week

[copper hawk]

correct

they dont spawn

this however doesn't mean that more things spawn in their place

spawn rates for those things are still the same

eg ammo, stims

[wraith cipher]

and for my personal havoc i have to run it myself?

[trail mantle]

just watched 3 sword zealots run around shooting a bon for like 3 minutes

[copper hawk]

yah

u have to host

because FUCK u

[wraith cipher]

T_T

[copper hawk]

idk why this is a thing

or well

i know why

fomo/player retention

[wraith cipher]

i just joined somone's 10 i was like

[copper hawk]

at the worst it's an underhanded tactic and at best a massive oversight

[wraith cipher]

im going up fast

lol

[crude dove]

so should i have been hosting my own games this entire time

[copper hawk]

yes

[placid fiber]

On a serious note I think the biggest thing that made it a little more weird is them putting pacemaker and reloaded and ready further down the tree... but... that also makes a decent pathing choice towards the burst limiter override keystone. Before I had to choose between a bigger explosion and towering presence or faster ms on ranged kill and bonus crit on a kill... now I have 2 talents that are at least nice for a ranged build

[copper hawk]

so this is how it works

for whatever reason

[lunar fable]

why is this 1500

[opal star]

me watching the beast of nurgle hit the fastest 180 after I bust my ass trying to get an angle on its weakspot

[lunar fable]

but hounds and mutants are 250

[copper hawk]

games YOU host increase YOUR havoc level immediately

[lunar fable]

wat

[wraith cipher]

well

[crude dove]

but if i play with other people it comes next week right

[copper hawk]

if you join someone else's lobby and they're at a higher havoc level, you complete that havoc

[crude dove]

i heard that before

[wraith cipher]

i mean stops people from cheesing 40

[lunar fable]

yes

[copper hawk]

and in a WEEK YOUR havoc level updates to the highest you've ever completed

WHY???

[lean lark]

pox gas modifier can suck my fucking nuts

[copper hawk]

idk

[crude dove]

yea it seems dumb

[fleet zealot]

i think the 2nd plus spaghetti code

your rank is updated to your clearance (if higher) at the end of the week

[crude dove]

but i guess ill start hosting next week since this ones over

[opal star]

Do you not like having a gorillion corruption

[trail mantle]

real, but goddamn it was clear this mfs weren't zealot players (or even used to melee at all)

[copper hawk]

what u do george is find someone at like

lvl 35

and play w them

if u pass, cool

[fleet zealot]

just use a med stim

[copper hawk]

if not, go down

[lean lark]

i dont like blight spreads pox gas tox bomber waves on vigil station oblivium no

not exactly

[copper hawk]

it's like the acft in the army - if the deadlift weight is too high go down till ur comfy

[opal star]

that takes worrrrrkkkkkkk :(

[copper hawk]

do that level and then just

kinda wait idk

[placid fiber]

There... I have a version of this build for aurics/maelstroms... I noticed how handy these would be when I played the 1 auric maelstrom that yamato dragged me and argus into. >.>

[crude dove]

i havent seen one lobby over 22

[copper hawk]

the week is abotu to update here in a few days anyways

[lean lark]

are you eu

[copper hawk]

i've seen a couple in us e/w that are around 35

[lean lark]

im doing my personal clearances, im at 26 rn so if you're eu i can add you

[opal star]

this mission so gassy

[crude dove]

nah i just havent been playing a lot tbh

ill look today

[placid fiber]

This would have also been really useful since I kept ending up below 33% hp that run as well :/

[opal star]

part of me wants to run beacon of purity but then that means going middle tree

[placid fiber]

Still happy that I only got downed once that run, even tho I took 2.2k damage... which I am really annoyed about.

[lunar fable]

this would go hard with ogryn

[opal star]

through the what and flames

https://tenor.com/view/clone-hero-guitar-hero-schmooey-gif-24540336

[lean lark]

flamer frame looks awesome

[misty ravine]

Is Shield of Contempt at least nice to have

[opal star]

no

wait

kinda

[lean lark]

depends

[opal star]

sorry I was thinking that shitty bottom left tree knockback node

[misty ravine]

Guessing once you get high enough any kind of damage reduction isn't worth a damn and you need to just not get hit?

[placid fiber]

I mostly just use this portrait on every build on every character. :/

[lean lark]

its way better to get soc than sprint duration and reload though

no doubt

[opal star]

well

you still kinda need damage reduction

[lunar fable]

243/250 mutants
220/250 trappers
219/250 hounds
189/250 snipers

those are my closest 4

[opal star]

it’s highly preferable to not get hit but shit happens yk?

[placid fiber]

Finally... I used almost all of my money and only got 1 semi-decent end stat heavy stubber. :/

[wraith cipher]

i briefly tried it

[lean lark]

?

[wraith cipher]

is it like...

just good cause of the flash light?

[placid fiber]

Wait... they made the achlys version the heaviest hitter of the 3 mks! I find this hilarious since the achlys is the highest rate of fire and lowest damage for the twin linked ones! XD

[crude dove]

i need that flamer frame

[north sedge]

It rips through pretty much everything and also functions as a dmr

[wraith cipher]

ah i havent leveled it up

just inital thoughts lol

[misty ravine]

Would go hardest on a shooty Vet with the crosshair

[north sedge]

Can kill crushers in like 3 or 4 shots

[placid fiber]

Know what I find saddest about this version of the heavy stubber and the gorgon one? They have critical bonus as a primary stat instead of stopping power...

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

Everyone should main vet

[misty ravine]

And other insane ramblings

[hushed knoll]

I am sane

[north sedge]

Can't believe they nerfed chainsword

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH SHUT UP

THEY CAN’T SURF NY BABY

[flat marsh]

Can't believe they nerfed the dark tide

[hushed knoll]

NERF MY BABY

[wraith cipher]

bruh the evis getting power crept by the relic sword is wild

[crude dove]

i tried to get into vet but i just feel like i help more overall as a zealot idk

[north sedge]

They big crit, i use the achlys

Every patch stan gets on and has massive anxiety about the chainsword being nerfed

Since like patch 13

[placid fiber]

Well... would it really surprise us if they nerfed the mk 13g chainsword? That thing is a monster lol

[drowsy steppe]

Can't believe they nerfed chainsword

[north sedge]

No it's just him freaking out, no awareness of anything

[placid fiber]

I've only used it a few games, but, the people who said it was really powerful were right about it lol

[misty ravine]

At last we have truly become the Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

[placid fiber]

that thing mulches hordes

[crude dove]

i think duel sword might need a buff

[north sedge]

True

[crude dove]

its not one shotting bosses?

[misty ravine]

I heard people use other weapons in Havoc, this is not to be borne

[north sedge]

Hasn't killed god yet

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-thanos-gif-22170375

[flat marsh]

Chain sword is somehow more light spam than the knives

[placid fiber]

Yeah, we gotta triple the stab's damage and double the overheads on the mk5... and triple the cleave on the lights for the mk2 and 4... and quadruple the cleave for the mk 5's lights

[crude dove]

havent seen one ds in havoc now that i think about it

[drowsy steppe]

make every weapon the ds4

[lean lark]

yeah it should get a flat 6 cleave buff on every attack it has, pretty underwhelming weapon tbh

[fleet zealot]

only 13g

[crude dove]

we need a gun that just shoots a duel sword

[lean lark]

ive seen quite a few dueling sword zealots in havocs already

maybe like a dozen

[crude dove]

damn

[misty ravine]

And give them all infinite dodges (force swords used to have it, there is precedent)

[crude dove]

i only see combat blade and relic blade zealots in mine

[placid fiber]

No, no, not the chainsword... give the thammer infinite dodges. >:3

[crude dove]

imagine if they gave vets snipers

[placid fiber]

Wow the achlys heavy stubber can kill crushers with the 5% rending node and 10% rending from elite kill quite well

735 damage without the 10% rending, 1000 something with it

[north sedge]

Yea

[placid fiber]

Oh wait that was on a crit

[lean lark]

vet already has "sniper" weapons (helbore, vraks mk7/mk3, plasma, bolter)

the enemy snipers use a modified helbore

[placid fiber]

I put surgical on this one... and it has t3 opening salvo on it as well(since I only have t2 blessings for it due to low mastery)

this thing will go great on my melee builds

I think I might just stick with the twin-linked one for my gunlugger build since the burn on hit works so well with the achlys twin linked heavy stubber :/

I can 3 shot crushers, tho, with it on my gunlugger build tho with the +30% rending on the career skill...

[north sedge]

Feels better a gunlugger with that pullout time and such

[placid fiber]

I really like the achlys twin linked stubber for my gunlugger build since I can melt daemonhosts with it lol

Currently this thing can 2 shot scab gunners with the surgical crit... when I get it higher it should 2 shot dreg gunners as well. I'll probably just end up using the achlys version, tho, since it hits so much harder... even with stopping power at 50% as a hidden stat I think it will outperform the krourk(even at 80% stopping power)...

[north sedge]

Achlys one shots gunners

[placid fiber]

Well yeah... a fully upgraded one should, easily. This thing is gonna be stuck at its current stats until I get a higher mastery level

1 shots scab gunners without surgical, 2 shots dreg gunners without surgical... 1 shots dreg gunners with surgical tho

[forest nymph]

Hey, I haven't had to level a weapon with the new system yet, what's a useable stat score? I've been wanting to use the relic blade but brunt won't give me anything above a 320

[stone fern]

man dodges on mk10 relic still feel bad

like the reset time is too long

or the depleted dodge is non existent

[north sedge]

Just pay attention to the potential stats, overall rating doesn't matter

[misty ravine]

You won't get anything with a base rating higher than that. You need to look for a weapon with good potential stats (typically 60 mobility, 80 everything else, but depends on the weapon) and then upgrade it later

[forest nymph]

Ik I can get a better rating. There's a 480 Grey knife in my inventory

[misty ravine]

Someone posted a clip the other day of the charged relic blade having 0 effective dodges even after reset but I can't reproduce it

[misty ravine]

I mean from Brunt's Armory, the random shop has a higher variance

[north sedge]

It doesn't matter, you upgrade stats to their potential at hadron

[placid fiber]

2 shots damnation dreg gunners, currently, on mine since it's only at a 290 rating... unless I get surgical's crit... then it 1 shot dreg gunners as well.

[stone fern]

i had some issues with it in game ate a mauler overhead because of the dodges i havent ate one in so long 😭

[placid fiber]

If I had elites, tho, instead of maniac or flak it would 1 shot them tho probably...

[north sedge]

You're adsing mostly anyway, hip fire is for close range and only in burst

[placid fiber]

I'd also probably not be hip firing it, very often, anyways for the achlys mk since it has a lot less ammo than the krourk or gorgon version

[north sedge]

The bullets have a lot of cleave

[placid fiber]

Also: these stubbers are extremely accurate on the braced even with only 57% stability lol

[north sedge]

The longer you fire the worse it gets in hip fire

[placid fiber]

I noticed that. I'm testing it against damnation enemies so I can get a base idea of how it will do. I know it will perform a lot better when it's at or close to 500 for the rating

[north sedge]

I haven't had ammo issues in games and I'm mostly shooting

Without vet even

[placid fiber]

Sadly it isn't 1 shotting scab or dreg ragers even with a crit headshot yet... 😦

[haughty haven]

Is agripeenis revolver the crucian and hand cannon?

[placid fiber]

I almost never have ammo issues on my melee oggy build, even with the twin linked version... I mostly melee everything, and then save my rocks/stubber for specials/troublesome elites. This achlys stubber is very effective vs elites and specials... way more than I could have dreamt it would be lol

[hard nexus]

yeah

[haughty haven]

Using it for dropping specials on a Bible thumper with relic blade with ij

[north sedge]

Yea but what I'm saying is as gunlugger firing it like 80% of the time i rarely got low

[placid fiber]

Man... even with +20% maniac damage I still don't 2 shot muties with a crit headshot and opening salvo's bonus...

[placid fiber]

Do you know if surgical + deadly accurate is a good combo for the heavy stubber? I'm thinking it could be, especially since the achlys and gorgon versions have a crit main stat

[north sedge]

I'm using surgical pf

[haughty haven]

Yeah it's made for dropping elites and specials like the shotgun

Or good for that at least

[north sedge]

Deadly accurate seems like overkill mostly with how it performs

[placid fiber]

Meh... pinning fire on the achlys seems like a waste to me... I'd probably take opening salvo instead since if I am sniping with it I'd get that bonus a lot more often than I'd get pinning fire's bonus...

[hard nexus]

from what i know, it’s best on the medium mark

[north sedge]

Save quicker Crusher kills i guess

[placid fiber]

I guess crushers it could be useful on, yeah...

[haughty haven]

I think you need da for reaper and bulwark 2 taps

I could be wrong tho mine isn't all the way empowered yet

[placid fiber]

I got this for my crit on this current stubber's stats vs a reaper :/

[placid fiber]

Also: I mostly use my pickaxe for crushers... It feels weird using a ranged weapon on them for me. :/

[haughty haven]

Is that on a full left side?

[north sedge]

I mean i just shoot them dead before they even get close

[placid fiber]

This is what I get from a headshot with just tormet and 5 heavy hitter stacks. :/

[placid fiber]

That's on my heavy hitter build, yeah

[haughty haven]

I was also told to go for 80 mobility on it because relic so slow and apparently it's got good motion buffs? What would you drop if you wanted that

[haughty haven]

My god that's savage

[spare dome]

so i fucked around for a while and unless im missing something heatsink > cranial grounding on the relic blades

[north sedge]

Why not just thrust

[placid fiber]

This is currently what my heavy hitter build is(for my non-auric/maelstrom version).

[spare dome]

i couldnt sus out a single breakpoint that the 20% extra weakspot damage could reach, and cranial doesnt help reduce the cooldown period when the sword is off, only cuts the generation cost over time + per swing

[placid fiber]

I took this to see how it does, if I ever even get it to be up... I almost never am below 50% hp on my oggy... even on damnation...

[spare dome]

heatsink keeps uptime high and then also rapidly reduces cooldown time when off

also very easy to trigger

[obsidian prairie]

Just drop 450000 dockets and 6k plasteel on greens

[hard nexus]

no

everything else is damage stats

and important

[spare dome]

heat management is a joke stat

[hard nexus]

the dodge distance difference is like 2%

[spare dome]

dump it

[placid fiber]

I'm kinda tempted to take off a 10% tdr node and this talent and grabbing the 10% health node before the feel no pain keystone and then also using 3 toughness curios instead of the 2 toughness and 1 health curio I currently have

[hard nexus]

how long is the difference between the two?

60 and 80 heat management

[spare dome]

literally barely more than a second

your blessing is going to dictate way more

and even if you didnt want the blessing, -0.13 vs. +0.02 sprint speed is sizeable

[hard nexus]

hrm

fair

ok then yah @haughty haven

dump heat management

[haughty haven]

1.6 seconds

[placid fiber]

If I throw this thing on(over the 21% hp curio) and the 10% hp one as well then I end up with these for my health and toughness

[frosty herald]

Thats quite sizeable

[spare dome]

that was your time when you just turned it on and stood, right?

[hard nexus]

yeah

[placid fiber]

I ran out of plasteel so I can't put better perks on this yet

[haughty haven]

I already did i was asking in relation to the volver

[hard nexus]

oh just dump reload speed or mobility

[haughty haven]

Yes

[spare dome]

ok so yea

[hard nexus]

either one is fine

[spare dome]

the thing is that there are two compontents to the heat

the build up over time

and a cost per swing

[haughty haven]

Ohhh ok

[spare dome]

you dont actually get to have it active for 26 seconds straight in a fight while swinging it

its closer to 11 seconds

[haughty haven]

I just trigger mine alot

On off

[spare dome]

yea

same

[misty ravine]

Tech bros, what is the fastest possible way to activate Relic Blade and queue up a heavy thrust at the same time? Is it possible in the time of one slide?

[spare dome]

like ... yknow, physical heat management

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus thoughtz on my new drippe,,

[spare dome]

start to activate and then go into the sprint

[copper hawk]

cant color the sword cuz of wpn customization

[frosty herald]

You can activate the special when you hold the sword

[hard nexus]

pawesome

[copper hawk]

thanks pookie,,

[misty ravine]

Branx Minor Forge Livery
Get that orky shit outta here

[lunar fable]

are you running relic blade in havoc cica

[copper hawk]

nope

it sucks

[frosty herald]

Yeah a shame weapon customization crashes the game when you try to do stuff on relic blade

[frosty herald]

Noob

[copper hawk]

i use the chord 13g w wrath and shred

on my book/beacon build

this is just my funsies build

[lunar fable]

relic blade has been fine for me

but i used the csword build for that last run

[misty ravine]

I would post that buzz lightyear store shelf gif, but that is literally what havoc does to a mf

[spare dome]

yea relic blade is better than i gave it credit

i was basing my assessment off of other people using it

and that was a mistake

[placid fiber]

lol with my feel no pain keystone and the extra 5% hp talent on the oggy tree I could end up with 391hp with 3 toughness curios

[spare dome]

since they overload the battery fighting groaners and poxwalkers and then hit crushers with the bare metal

and i was like "wow that thing sucks"

[frosty herald]

Even unpowered its quite strong

[royal vortex]

all i played on vet was unpowered psword now i can do that on zealot

life is perfect

[misty ravine]

Activate and hold M1 while going into the sprint-slide?

At work rn but have had problems getting it to work consistently in real games without waiting really long between each step

[haughty haven]

I like the 10 for braindead lights and braindead heavy spam

[frosty herald]

Mk2 is such a dirty weapon

You have heavy light loop hordeclear to proc toughness on heavy kill satisfying uppercut downswing attacks when fighting crushers and bosses and light spam if you need to slug through a hallway

[copper hawk]

doesn't look 2 bad either,,

wish i could just hazard stripe the armor

and paint the stupid sword !!

[north sedge]

Release the tapes

[spare dome]

honestly i also find it hard to work in as a combo

and yea MKii is the winner imo

[drowsy steppe]

bro looked like a walking stop sign

[north sedge]

It's just good as an opener, or very funny on a bon weak spot

[drowsy steppe]

its ugly 🙁

[copper hawk]

:<

every1 critic,,

[rocky nacelle]

☣️

[copper hawk]

i like the hazard stripes the other moebians have

[rocky nacelle]

looks cool

[drowsy steppe]

because ugly 🙁

[copper hawk]

it looks cool

iron warriors my beloved..

[lunar fable]

man i'm too used to the mk10

[misty ravine]

Mk2 can also open the horde clear loop with a push attack if a heavy is inadvisable.

It also gets its first light attack out much faster, which is especially important if you want to activate first. Sometimes you just need to smack a thing right now, and the light strikedowns even have respectable cleave, just a narrow arc.

[noble ingot]

why am I not surprised that a lvl 700+ zealot has this new title

must have equally crazy teammates to get this

[hushed knoll]

Bin voyage

Bon

[royal vortex]

lmao

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/assiax-kuro-gif-25567826

[hushed knoll]

BLAB NO

[hushed knoll]

OH I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS YOU

[royal vortex]

?

[hushed knoll]

Your pfp looks like it has a worm coming out of its eye

Oh it’s a bat

[haughty haven]

I just like the endless heavy loop on the 10 and it has a really easy poke proc. either way the relic as a whole is what I wish the evis 10 was like

15*

It'd be interesting to see the two heat management blessings tested with creature spawner tho

[vestal portal]

The overload and cooldown 10% are really funny working together, I'm running with that.

Cool off in like 2-3 sec after overheat

[heady frost]

for the relic sword, isn't heat management dump stat? Seems the %s dont change that much? And it could use some more mobility? Or am I crazy

[vestal portal]

You are not crazy

The up time has insane dps that if you run cooling blessing instead of damage/cleave blessing, you can overall do more damage relying on heat alone.

[heady frost]

im slowly nearing havoc30 and I encountered some cleave issues so for now im running wrath+rampage, feels better to me than cranial+rampage tbh

[vestal portal]

I run a 74mobility/66 heat management

[north sedge]

Release the tapes

[heady frost]

but still wondering about the mobility/heat

[vestal portal]

I run Overload and Heatsink, you get more up time and using the charge as cleave.

[spare dome]

yea you can max out the heat uptime pretty easily with just heatsink alone

plus it impacts during off time, which cranial does not

[heady frost]

oh fr?

[spare dome]

ye

[heady frost]

interesting 🤔

[mossy tulip]

What’s the requirement for this?

[lusty turtle]

thats my child

[spare dome]

10% over 3s = 3.33 heat cost per second

[mossy tulip]

I got this randomly last night

[spare dome]

it almost removes the cost from active all together

and it still works even when its off

[mossy tulip]

Ik it’s from havoc but what are the exact requirements

[heady frost]

So seems like Heatsink+Rampage with heatmanagement dumpstat is a legit wa

way

Time to spend 600k for a perfect roll

[heady frost]

u get true survivor by completing LVL40 havoc

or by 35, no downs/deaths

[vestal portal]

I run overload because it is insta -25%, so you are 2 seconds to reactivate, which is already extended by Heatsink.

[heady frost]

dont remember

[mossy tulip]

I think it’s 35

I didn’t do 40 yet

[spare dome]

is overload the explosion one

its quite a meme lol

[red swift]

The insane is no one getting downed at 35 i think

[plucky sparrow]

40 is the insane iirc

Man now we’re all confused

[heady frost]

ye

[red swift]

I agree with heat management dumpstat, but I’ve never liked rampage

[heady frost]

Funny how the penance for LVL35 is called "The Insane" while the title is "True survivor"

[plucky sparrow]

Oh…..

WTF

[mossy tulip]

The insane is so much cooler

[paper pine]

"Anyone"

[mossy tulip]

True survivor kinda sucks

[heady frost]

lmao so stupid

[paper pine]

Doable if its just me

[heady frost]

thats gotta be unintended

[red swift]

I like true survivor more

[lean lark]

i never want to do carnival without a dome psyker

ptsd inducing gameplay

[vestal portal]

Btw, RIP the Thunmer, it was just being usable this summer, and now already obsolete comparing to the Rblade.

[red swift]

Wdym thammer crushed it in my sedition game the other day

Went crazy

[lunar fable]

speaking of the carnival

[lean lark]

do not

and i warn you

do not go in without a dome psyker

[lusty turtle]

what mods

[lean lark]

you will suffer

[lunar fable]

blight and pus

[lusty turtle]

lmao

[lunar fable]

yummy nurgle guac

[lusty turtle]

ye take dome or smokes

smokes are peak now

[lunar fable]

i don't play my vet anymore

[lusty turtle]

rest in piss

[lunar fable]

[hushed knoll]

Omg hi Mr. J. Detroit

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

Everyone should main vet

[lunar fable]

no

this is coming from a former vet main

[hushed knoll]

Blab

[lunar fable]

[hushed knoll]

You can’t bedge rn

😠

[lunar fable]

[hushed knoll]

No 😠

[lean lark]

everyone should main every class

they all teach important game knowledge

[hushed knoll]

You should main your face

Ooooo gottem

[lean lark]

its over

[hasty raft]

Charge saber martyr zealot

I refuse to not use martyr.

https://imgur.com/I4HxsNU

[fleet zealot]

havoc disagrees

[red swift]

You’ll grow out of it

[fleet zealot]

I consent, I consent, I don't (havoc)

[copper hawk]

You'll grow out of it [2]

[polar nexus]

Hello @hushed knoll

[hasty raft]

whats the alternative?

[copper hawk]

ij

[red swift]

IJ xd

[copper hawk]

poor marty zeals,,

[lunar fable]

i have never used marty

[hasty raft]

Its addicting sword swing fast

[fleet zealot]

you need IJ on sword for the dodge distance, or you just take stalwart piety cause it's good DR

[hasty raft]

help me out, whats IJ

[polar nexus]

Addictive, no?

[red swift]

The keystone talent on the right

[hasty raft]

absolutely is, for me at least

[polar nexus]

Not a native but addicting feels wrong when you can use addictive

[hushed knoll]

KEET HI

[polar nexus]

Stan, you're a scholar

[polar nexus]

Inexorable judgment

[fleet zealot]

inexorable judgement, it buffs your dodges by 15%

[polar nexus]

Right keystone

[red swift]

People who’ve learned English tend to have better spelling and grammar than natives anyways so

[hushed knoll]

Je suis seulemont pan au chocolat

[fleet zealot]

which helps cause relic blade is tied for the worst dodging in the game

[fleet zealot]

My gf is like that

[hasty raft]

When you Hit an Enemy, spend all Momentum, gaining +1% Melee Attack Speed, +1% Ranged Attack Speed, and +1% Damage per Stack. Lasts 6s.\

Oh

[lunar fable]

bin voyage

[hasty raft]

that is better

damn

[polar nexus]

Does scourge even work?

[red swift]

It gives 0.5% dodge distance, speed, and recovery too per stack

[grand tangle]

I've always wondered if this is true of all languages

[fleet zealot]

Lithuanian, speaks perfect english, is always insecure about it

[hasty raft]

well congrats y'all've converted me

[fleet zealot]

i don't take it in havoc cause i path immo nades once my throwing knives stop one shotting shit

[polar nexus]

What's your gun?

[red swift]

Sorry for bad English ‘types perfect 1000 word essay’

[fleet zealot]

vraks iag rn

[hasty raft]

Now i'ma repeatedly run Damnation Karnac twins to get a good rythm with it

[polar nexus]

Ah ok fair enough

[polar nexus]

Bon voyage

Je suis seulement pain au chocolat me veut rien dire Stan

[hasty raft]

I prefer revolver, simply because I'm one of those that can't stand snipers and getting shot at 40 times before the vet takes care of it like they should

[fleet zealot]

without crit TDR, stalwart just gives me that extra beef, especially if i'm the beacon bitch of the party

[polar nexus]

À moins que tu ne veuilles dire : Je suis un pain au chocolat ! Mais c'est étrange

[grand tangle]

Hon Hon hon

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/pip-bernadotte-hellsing-gif-19678829

[grand tangle]

I'm so mad at myself that I recognize this gif

I never even watched helsing ultimate

[hushed knoll]

I didn’t understand the last part

[hushed knoll]

Blab is making fun of me

[hushed knoll]

I don’t understand this at all

[placid fiber]

Idk who I was playing with, but, someone invited me to their strike team while I was on my oggy... I at least put together an auric/maelstrom build, which had the 10% toughness per enemy hit and 5 stacks of bleed per enemy hit bonuses to the charge... On non-auric runs I can easily make do without that since I'm really tanky... I know for something like aurics and maelstroms I will need those career skill bonuses... This is how I did, I ended up going down once cause I got cornered by like 5 maulers and 3 crushers. Otherwise I did okay.

Sadly my stubber was only 290 for the rating... it still worked quite well, tho, despite the low rating.

[empty python]

do we know how much HP Crushers and Maulers have on Havoc 40 guys?

[placid fiber]

Being taken into an auric for your first run of the day when it's been a couple weeks since you last played is a bit rough lol

[hasty raft]

real quick, retributors stance or inebriates poise?

[placid fiber]

inebriate's poise

the 3 stacks on dodge for ij is extremely good

especially since you should be dodging stuff no matter what class you are

[placid fiber]

What weapon are you using? Also what type of difficulty/run are you trying to do?

Just curious

[hasty raft]

I generally play Damnation, sometimes auric malestrom, but I run dueling sword. Haven't tried havoc, too scary. But Have cleared secret hardmode Karnac twins

[placid fiber]

Are you using a build like this? for the talent tree set up

[hasty raft]

Uh close I have immo grenades, are they not good?

[viral schooner]

IMO up to personal preference

[placid fiber]

It's not that they aren't useful, it's more that the pathing to the tknives wastes no talents for a weapon like the dueling sword. That and throwing knives are extremely useful

[analog ember]

immo nades are good, but not as good as knives, and suffer from WAY worse pathing

[viral schooner]

^

[placid fiber]

tknives are great for dispatching specials/ragers/more elites if you have uncanny

[hasty raft]

but oh wow my talents are a mess

[placid fiber]

For damnation a lot require a headshot, but, they can easily 1 shot flamers, trappers, bombers, gunners, shotgunners, and ragers on a headshot

[analog ember]

and then there's havoc 😭

[hasty raft]

no disdain darkpill?

[placid fiber]

For havoc I've been hearing that chorus is basically mandatory, on the zealot, for it...

[placid fiber]

Disdain is every other hit

[hasty raft]

oh gross

[placid fiber]

1st hit builds stacks, 2nd uses them

ewew(enemies within enemies without) was cut in half... unless they changed it then it gives ~4% toughness/sec due to the tick rate... sadly disdain is every other hit so it's a 2 talent point tax. The middle 1st 2 give 25% close damage to ranged weapons and 20% to unyielding and infested(the unyielding helps with monsters)

Also: Your tknives can benefit from uncanny strike(if your melee is out) or the shotgun one that makes them go through enemies on a crit

[hasty raft]

why pious cut throat vs swift certainty?

[placid fiber]

20% cdr on backstab kill, which happens way more often than you would think