zealot-class

[grizzled aspen]

(he will see this later and weep)

First go of the new mission, and it's lights out.

Great.

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-laugh-gif-21799013

[visual stream]

What if soyker vent shriek gave golden toughness to self and teammates in the line of sight

Might as well if vet gets to keep VoC as is

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/ajr-brick-throw-ajr-brick-throw-jack-met-jack-ajr-gif-9892393028507050460

[grizzled aspen]

I almost jumped the gun with a dorncord response at reading that.

(dorncord response would get me banned)

[visual stream]

Something about krill on my shelf

[grizzled aspen]

Likely.

[visual stream]

I understand

Real talk though vent shriek doesn't seem very good compared to scryer

[drowsy steppe]

cursed

[visual stream]

Its main purpose, being peril circumvention, is outclassed by Warp Unbound

[lean lark]

it has its uses

[stable cypress]

Not gonna say its perfect (far from) but aside from some really funny cases I haven't had too much problems getting matches in solo in 21-9 range, at least solo

[lean lark]

I've only ever used it for fast soulblaze applying/getting hounds off of people through walls

[stable cypress]

but thats also b/c every time I think back on how much weaves sucked I remember/am reminded of something else that made it Bad

[twin wagon]

It's great for emperors fading light if you already have a dome psyker

It dots scattered shooters away

till 31

[lean lark]

you can also interrupt bombers and gunners long range before they get to do their stuff

[twin wagon]

then ur fucked because of the very slight hp increase they'll be left at 3 ticks away

[lean lark]

this is why you'll be using the 125 dmg node instead. Trust the process.

[twin wagon]

[lean lark]

it is so good, it doesn't even kill a poxwalker in heresy

[twin wagon]

[lean lark]

I wish that node got buffed so it's actually an option

[visual stream]

As a push tool and/or for when dome is down I'm guessing?

[ember yew]

i expect it to die when people finish the penances, at least cosmetic ones

[lean lark]

rather than actually useless

[visual stream]

Hey now

Don't be so harsh

If you use that node on a shotgunner you might reach a one shot with dclaw

[twin wagon]

Either
It's warpfire dot is great for that and push utility

Only issue is that it doesn't meet breakpoints past a point and that sucks

[lean lark]

yeah but that's a very niche use, which soulblaze stacks would do either way

[sinful glen]

op nerf that node now

[visual stream]

Yeah Idk maybe I'm melee brainrotten but shriek sucks both in placement and usage comparatively

Most of the yummers stuff of psyker tree is right side

[twin wagon]

Left side has, decrease cooldown tho

[lean lark]

and elite dmg aura

[tribal estuary]

whats the benefit of sainted weapons?

[twin wagon]

and that's it till bottom

[visual stream]

Oh and soulblaze talents

To synergize with the soulblaze talent

On the opposite side of the tree

⁉️

[lean lark]

just trust the process

[ember yew]

transfer the dodge talent to zealot

[lean lark]

imo they should either fully change the dmg shriek node or just have it be built in

[visual stream]

Fuck it, make it a nuke but give it a high CD

Cone-shaped one shot on anything that isn't a crusher

(Don't do that)

[twin wagon]

Change it for higher cooldown but it applies max warpfire stacks

Make the other one obsolete

[obsidian prairie]

That would be catastrophic and also potentially a nerf

Because it uses the stack hardcap of 31 and not the soft cap of 16

[frosty herald]

Ok now hear me out

[twin wagon]

It's Fatshark, at some point a class will become unusuable

[frosty herald]

Throwing knife weakspot hits on specialists have a kill tag

[honest burrow]

solo clutching feels so thematically cool with the mk10 relic blade, just solo clutched an auric 5 by just swinging the big sword forever until there was nothing left. Crushers, Bulwarks, Ragers, Gunners, disablers? Doesn't matter, big sword go thwunk thwunk thwunk thwunk.

[twin wagon]

Relic sword nerfed

Millions will review bomb

[honest burrow]

Is it considered OP? I haven't been paying attention to what people say

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[empty python]

honestly don't think Relic sword is really OP

it's pretty clunky, but that's good

[grizzled aspen]

It is unironically one of the most balanced weapons fatshark has dropped.

[obsidian prairie]

Its weirdly balanced for something that can shred everything

[grizzled aspen]

You want op, you look at the fgs.

[honest burrow]

It didn't feel that way, I could have clutched so much easier if I had DS or knife, but big sword felt so good.

[twin wagon]

No, but redditors are at it

Meanwhile they ignore ds

[grizzled aspen]

Fgs goes "oh, an entire train of elites? bye."

[obsidian prairie]

Power offset by a difficult moveset and resource management

[empty python]

fr

smh

[twin wagon]

Psyker one is also balanced by been on soyker

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, but if you play zealout enough to be zealout-brained, you have zero issues running fgs.

[twin wagon]

Soyker without dome can't last in fading emperors light

[drowsy steppe]

nah relics in a good spot currently

[heady frost]

fgs?

whats fgs

[obsidian prairie]

Cole tried it on zealot and it was apparently unhinged

[grizzled aspen]

Soyker greatsword.

[heady frost]

ahhh

ty

[drowsy steppe]

its as well designed as the pickaxes

[frosty herald]

Relic sword is real good

[grizzled aspen]

"Force Greatsword" abbreviated.

[twin wagon]

Spark shouty

[frosty herald]

But balanced by having low mobility

[twin wagon]

Or head shouty

[obsidian prairie]

It’s good enough

[empty python]

force great sword is OP? I havent really played it, but it looks kinda crazy xD

[honest burrow]

I guess I should practice fgs more, because it doesn't feel good to use to me and I'm a psyker main. relic blade gives me more satisfaction.

[obsidian prairie]

You just have to be mindful of your dodge count

[twin wagon]

It's not ds

[frosty herald]

Mk8 force is very very strong

[empty python]

I guess being able to clear an entire group is pretty crazzy

[twin wagon]

You won't kill crushers in 2 hits (we ignore charge)

While been a speedfreak

[frosty herald]

If you use warp rider unstable power 2 shot crushers with heavies

[grizzled aspen]

You actually will kill crushers in 2 hits.

The fgs is a fucking beast, dude.

[twin wagon]

Why would you tho

[grizzled aspen]

Because thats how you play melee psyker.

[twin wagon]

Can do it at 28 finess stacks eith unstable

[grizzled aspen]

Scrier's gaze, warp rider, unstable power, warp unbound.

[sinful glen]

so you can two shot crushers i assume

[obsidian prairie]

And by crack of bone

[frosty herald]

Scrier is hands down the best ability for force greatsword

[obsidian prairie]

Don’t forget that

[sinful glen]

can someone gib good scrier build for new sword

psyker is my least played class

i have even less clue what i am doing

then usually

[empty python]

oughta go to psyker-class chat for that xD

[obsidian prairie]

You haven’t seen The scrier build

[lean lark]

the mobility is exaggerated

but I'm pretty sure that's my thammer bias speaking

it's really not low mobility

[sinful glen]

i feel like people talk about psyker more here then there lmao

[grizzled aspen]

It is definitely low mobility.

I'm using it on piety and after 2 dodges I feel like a slug, despite having 4 total.

[frosty herald]

You also have the block on activation

[grizzled aspen]

The intent of this weapon is to actually fucking block.

[sinful glen]

i used some build awhile back idk if it’s still viable

[grizzled aspen]

That's the skill check.

[sinful glen]

ty

[obsidian prairie]

I can dodge overheads at -2/2 on flamer

I’m chilling

[grizzled aspen]

You can dodge anything with perfect timing.

[obsidian prairie]

And that I have

Apparently

[grizzled aspen]

I'm just saying, the dodge distance on this thing is abysmal.

Genuinely, I would say it needs a buff in that regard.

[vast basin]

thats why I prefer ij with the relic sword

[grizzled aspen]

Otherwise, very solid weapon.

[obsidian prairie]

I think it’s just fine

[vast basin]

not amazing crit adms anyway

[empty python]

man I hope there'll be a mod or some way to test stuff out with Havoc scaling soon. I really do want to see how weapons par into Havoc 40 rn, it's kinda foreboding

[obsidian prairie]

Slow mobility as compensation for general shredding of everything

[empty python]

I'm at Havoc 30 and it already feels tougher than Auric Maelstrom xD

[obsidian prairie]

Got good heavy atk finesse

Nearly 2.0

[sterile stone]

@spare talon You up

We need 2 more for havoc 33

[twin wagon]

Daily reminder that with 2 sacrifices you can run a warp charge, melee and electro crit build for 86% uptime on scrier

Only thing you'll miss is kinetic deflection

Maybe actually regening toughness too

[final forge]

@sterile stone im can go if you need a spot filled

[twin wagon]

But that's a get hit issue

[sterile stone]

Have you gotten into the 30s?

[final forge]

at 30 atm

failed a 33 right at the end that felt bad

[sterile stone]

If cole doesn't respond then sure

He's got a guy

[empty python]

There's really no way currently to test stuff out on enemies with Havoc scaling, right?

[sterile stone]

So I guess you can take the last spot

[empty python]

we're just winging it?

[final forge]

oh nice thx

[obsidian prairie]

You can do the math

About it

[grizzled aspen]

Basically, yeah.

[empty python]

how's the scaling tho?

[obsidian prairie]

Great question

[empty python]

1.5x, 2x HP xD?

[grizzled aspen]

The only real thing is, the higher havoc goes, the less toughness and hp you have, and the more hitmass shit has.

[empty python]

lol

[obsidian prairie]

I’m not the person to ask for resources on that

[empty python]

fair enough

[final forge]

@sterile stone what is your code? or where i guess

[sterile stone]

0539116848

[grizzled aspen]

My current build in normal missions has 165 toughness and 200 hp, but I was down to a little over 100 toughness and around 150 hp in the havocs I ran with the gang yesterday.

Oh, and shooters must die.

Practice this mentality furiously.

One, and I do mean, literally one, can drop you by himself.

[remote lark]

i mean

i have a pic

[empty python]

just hoping my Crucis Thammer will hold out up there, it's doing pretty fine at Havoc 33 ish so far, but do need to charge Thrust longer for some enemies now

[remote lark]

but uh

[grizzled aspen]

It will not.

[remote lark]

.w.

[grizzled aspen]

Best build for havocs is unironically mk13 chord, boltgun/flamer, and chorus with crit cdr abuse.

[remote lark]

frog

whats ur havoc level

[grizzled aspen]

Nunya.

[remote lark]

yea i thought so

frog doesn't know what the best build is

dont listen to him or u'll contract 'bad'

its terminal

& he smells

[grizzled aspen]

Idk, this is information from literally everybody up in 30+.

[remote lark]

[grizzled aspen]

Yknow, Dorn was using chorus.

[remote lark]

goodbyes...

noob, the grinch

[obsidian prairie]

Ego death

[grizzled aspen]

At least sign the fucking edivorce papers.

[remote lark]

noob

:3

[empty python]

no doubt Chorus is useful, but I did pretty well with my Thammer around 35 yesterday, if only I didn't lag to all hell, and wasn't on my 1650 laptop 720p window playing at 40 fps :/

[grizzled aspen]

I find it hilarious that he wants to call me bad but even he caved and abused chorus for it.

Like, ok dude, whatever, you are using the exact same shit I am.

[twin wagon]

Don't listen to Bark either

I have the most unhinged builds

[grizzled aspen]

What got me is the 40fps.

[twin wagon]

When I finish cleaning I'll send mine

[grizzled aspen]

Call him Malice Boy.

That is his proper title.

[empty python]

i ahvent caved with chorus yet, charge is still doing well for me lmao

[twin wagon]

I've seen Bark in havok 25 tho

[empty python]

then again, usually there's always at least 1 person with chorus, so eh

[grizzled aspen]

You wouldn't get it...

[obsidian prairie]

Chorus works better and better the more coordinated you are

[grizzled aspen]

🚬

[twin wagon]

So he now knows who I am

[empty python]

40 fps I can deal with, but I have to shrink my game window so small can barely see anything at the distance rn

if only I have my PC rn

[lean lark]

do you have the potato graphic mod?

[empty python]

hmmm, not yet, but maybe I'll try, sounds like a bit of a bother xD

[lean lark]

there's a mod/setting you can edit that turns every graphic into playdough but lets you keep very high fps

[empty python]

i saw that yeah, but at the end of the day, it's still a 1650 laptop with only 8gb of ram xD

so unsure how much that'll do haha

[lean lark]

it'll give you 60+ fps at least

[ionic galleon]

what blessings should i take on zealot for double barrel?

[empty python]

either of the reload ones are pretty good

i cant even remember the names lol

reload and dmg simple

the one that gives you dmg if you hit all pellets maybe

[obsidian prairie]

Scattershot Manstopper is good for a piety setup

I run Deathspitter both barrels

Love discord mobile

So stable

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/play-doh-green-play-doh-toys-play-dough-gif-17777598274751644524

[empty python]

damn, that's pretty bad xD

[drowsy steppe]

arcos game setting is truly one of a kind

[placid fiber]

You stare into the playdoh... and the playdoh stares back...

[empty python]

maybe I'll have to send my PC over to me ugh

[lean lark]

small price to pay for consistent high fps on laptop

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/gas-prices-simpsons-gif-25086065

[sterile stone]

@final forge Sorry it didn't work out bruv

[final forge]

np

[sterile stone]

I woulda switch from og to vet if the other guy rotated

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[worldly belfry]

if my game crashes and i log back in but theres no message to rejoin what does that mean

[vast basin]

it means fuck you no reconnecting

[sinful glen]

i tried it and i am not sure whats the purpouse of asail with sword but also idk what id use instead of it but other then that feels good

[worldly belfry]

lovely i was near the end of a good maelstrom run

[vast basin]

I had the same happen in a high havoc run

quite painful

[frosty herald]

You path through assail cause its the fastest way to reach scrier

Also the occasional ranged elite/specialist

The ranged weapon can be freely changed

[sinful glen]

makes sense then

[sinful glen]

so i am free to try something like laz gun without changing build

[twin wagon]

I shouldn't be allowed to cook

[lean lark]

you should

[twin wagon]

This is cursed

[lean lark]

had a brain burst psyker in my havocs

[twin wagon]

Worst thing is, it works

[full moss]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da83374-4b81-48fa-8968-c82530a28cf7/torch got a rough build from someone. How shit is this?

[lean lark]

genuinely so good to see

[sterile stone]

My fucking soul hurts

[full moss]

I mean, how can i improve it

[sterile stone]

We got a low level veteran

Who refuses to use shout

[full moss]

oh god no

[sterile stone]

And only uses dueling sword with stealth

[lean lark]

don't run piety thammer

[sterile stone]

On havoc fucking 33

[lean lark]

don't run hammerblow, use thrust instead

[twin wagon]

Impact on hammer does not do much, I suggest thrust

[lean lark]

replace infested on flamer for elites

[sinful glen]

he just dosent want to be rude and shot at people

[lean lark]

run inexorable judgement instead of piety

[sterile stone]

He needs to be launched into the airlock

No field improv

No team nade regen

[lean lark]

also replace flak on thammer for elites (crusher os)

[sterile stone]

Bro is playing like a washed zealot

With none of the benefits of being a zealot

[pallid hemlock]

impact is just stagger btw

[lean lark]

You got the polar opposite of what I had

[pallid hemlock]

there's strength (/power if FS hasn't updated the tooltip), which accounts for cleave, stagger, and damage

[twin wagon]

Curio wise:
Toughness stacking I am biased for, but health stacking I'd run either revive speed, sniper res if you don't like them, corruption res for havok or even combat ability to shave off 0.4 seconds off your ult (charge)

But health is fine too

[lean lark]

Shout, field improv, lasgun with no ammo on crits(so almost infinite) and used Krak nades

[pallid hemlock]

and there's damage (just damage), impact (just stagger), and cleave (just cleave)

[twin wagon]

Also gunner resistance has diminishing returns

it's not too bad

[full moss]

curios are built like im playing vet

[twin wagon]

but going from 2 to 3 is barely noticeable (to me)

[lean lark]

3 is useless 2 is good 1 is ok

that's the usual

[full moss]

wait is there 3 on there? should be 2 gunner 1 sniper

[lean lark]

yeah it's 2 gunner 1 sniper which is fine

[twin wagon]

there's 2

^^

[lean lark]

personally I'd put revive speed over sniper since I find myself picking up teammates often

[full moss]

im not doing revive speed

[twin wagon]

Understandable

Kark pubs

[lean lark]

corruption resist is the only other good option

after sniper

[full moss]

https://i.imgur.com/BG5ECZ5.png

[twin wagon]

Godsend if for some reason, no healot in havoc

Idk how I feel about this, I loved it on old chaxe

[lean lark]

yeah that can work

[vast basin]

taking fortitude in fellowship over ptu?

[lean lark]

I'd drop desperation and ij stacks on dodge to get toughness and FRA to immo nades

but since you're flamer thammer throwing knives are useful

oh that too, grab "purge the unclean" and drop fortitude in fellowship

[full moss]

how many corruption resists?

[lean lark]

just 1

[frosty herald]

I was more thinking staves

[sinful glen]

got it ty will try

[full moss]

ok the other 2 curios swaps? Also uhh can you quickly show me a perk screen? have 2 spare points after your recommendations

[lean lark]

The curios were fine, just the sniper res is fine to swap to corruption resist if you want

[lean lark]

I'll send what I ran on thammer one se

[full moss]

https://i.imgur.com/NqFZupN.png'

[vast basin]

I would drop punishment for good balance or duellist

[full moss]

gotcha

[lean lark]

@full moss

this is my thammer flamer build I've been using for well over a year

[full moss]

i do like immolation grenades over knives but ya

[lean lark]

play around with it and make modifications according to your playstyle/how you find yourself in games

just because it works like a charm for me it doesn't mean it'll work for other

[full moss]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da83374-4b81-48fa-8968-c82530a28cf7/torch ty

i think i can make it work

area denial with immolation

[lean lark]

Not grimoire corruption resis

Just normal corruption resis

[full moss]

ahhh

[lean lark]

also carapace elites on flamer

[frosty herald]

You are running the curio 3 times right

[full moss]

unsure about this

wouldn't i just uhhh

hit them with the hammer instead?

[lean lark]

yeah if it's a single crusher

if it's a crusher pack or a mixed horde containing crushers

+cara lets you kill them

[full moss]

ok good deal

[lean lark]

alongside penetrating flames

[full moss]

ogryn roast it is

[sinful glen]

come again ? u mean same curio 3 times

[lean lark]

you already have +elites which is more than enough for flamer ttk on enemies

[flat iris]

thoughts on this?

[stone fern]

punishment instead of duelist is wild

[full moss]

man im new to zealot, idk your talent tree like that

its why i asked

[stone fern]

its funny because thats like the one mistake there lmao

[sterile stone]

Rip, game kicked me out of a havoc. Won't let me join back, just get a black screen and kicked back to menu

[frosty herald]

Yes

[sinful glen]

working on it

[lean lark]

it's time to readjust your sleep schedule

[sterile stone]

I literally can't

[lean lark]

second crash you've had therefore it's divine intervention

[sterile stone]

It's not even a crash anymore

Idk what is going on

I spawn in with no audio

And my shit just instantly freezes

[lean lark]

mods maybeb

[sterile stone]

Ok so I checked

And no

It's not the mods

The game mode is just poorly optimized

[undone pewter]

Audio dynamic range it whatever its called perhaps?

[sterile stone]

Audio isn't gonna change the game freezing when I load into a havoc and instantly crashing

The shits just borked

It's been like this before the crashes happened

IT's just reached critical mass now and just mass crashes me

[lean lark]

I've had some audio issues in havoc too but only a couple times

thought it was just a me thing

[sterile stone]

Like

What I think it is

Is just the game engine shitting the bed due to the sheer fucking amount of enemies it's trying to spawn in

And it's trying to play the 8 billion audio ques aswell

[frosty herald]

You supplement low toughness with toughness damage resist and momentum

Also feel free to tweak the build the build to your liking

My exact setup might not be 100% compatable with your playstyle

[sinful glen]

i dont think i am nearly competent enough on psyker to do that yet

but new sword is really fun

[frosty herald]

Are you using the mk8?

[sinful glen]

also asail feels great even do i feel its unneeded

[sinful glen]

i think so

its the first unlocked one

i heard the 2 one is a bit harder but better

so il try it too once i unlock it

[north pond]

Bloody love Zealot

[frosty herald]

Mk8 has a much nicer moveset

[drowsy steppe]

crit damage to flak, elites

could use a bit more reload speed but its not gonna break the weapon having it at 69 (nice)

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/trunks-vegeta-cell-introduce-you-gif-8656969683948563017

[elfin steppe]

The uppercut feels so awkward.

[winter furnace]

eal

real

[lean lark]

aim higher up

that's all there is to it

is darktide breakpoint calculator updated for havoc yet

[stone fern]

its such a cool weapon

makes me feel like a space marine killing warp infected beasts

[remote magnet]

does the mk2 just swing faster

it really feels like it does

at least for the non sweep heavies

[sterile stone]

@lean lark

It's time to try and sleep I guess

My bot teammates have been sitting in this infinite loading screen forever

And it won't let me join back....because it's a infinite loading screen

[frosty herald]

It seems like this is the side effect of the 9999 fix

[sterile stone]

I mean it's whatever at this point

If I get bugged out and perma banned from havoc I won't even be mad

[polar nexus]

is that the mkx?

[spare talon]

true survivor on a party finder team, chasm logistratum

[polar nexus]

take that tanner

[elfin steppe]

Mk2

[elfin steppe]

It doesn't work if you're not close enough.

[polar nexus]

that is the one with swipe h1 swipe h2 overhead h3 and uppercut h4 right?

[elfin steppe]

Yeah

[spare talon]

funny thing is

in direct opposition to what he said

[timid seal]

Did you random que for true survivor

[spare talon]

we had a structured team comp where everyone had their role to play

[polar nexus]

feels like l1 to h3 is kinda slow

[timid seal]

Whats the best levels you found?

[spare talon]

yes, in party finder
we werent even trying for it

the easiest maps for it are probably archivum and mercantile

[timid seal]

The whole time?

[spare talon]

but we did it on logi cuz we were gaming super hard

[timid seal]

Build?

[misty ravine]

true survivor
I will never not think of this song
https://youtu.be/ZTidn2dBYbY?si=Hw5O-Ri2eba1f_8c

[sterile stone]

Dude ain't even ask me

[spare talon]

we did it with a structured team comp
everyone has their role to play
vet is ammo printer, instant stagger/overtoughness, and nade cc
psyker is bubble and crowd clearing
ogryn is taunt/pusher to pull aggro
zealot is critspam elite killer with chorus and immos

[timid seal]

Good to know

[placid fiber]

Here, have a "gif" version lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/970906422932045824.webp?size=96&animated=true

[timid seal]

Screenshot your zealot when i can plox

[spare talon]

i was with this group since 33

[elfin steppe]

I hope they buff the finesse or give us related blessings, the strike down damage should be higher.

[sterile stone]

Bruh I can't keep a group to save my life

Everyone disbands after 1 or 2 missions

And my last 33 had absolute shitters

[undone pewter]

Someone should do a havoc map tier list

[sterile stone]

Gloriana in the fucking pits of hell

[undone pewter]

Yup

[sterile stone]

Fuck that map in particular

[polar nexus]

that's the havoc experience for the foreseeable future i think

[undone pewter]

Gloriana is so hard

[polar nexus]

either you have a premade

or you just hope for luck

[frosty herald]

Now hold on argus

[lusty turtle]

60% of my havoks have been gloriana

[frosty herald]

Silo cluster...

[sterile stone]

That's the thing...

[spare talon]

yeah cuz he flipped that switch

[polar nexus]

and if you don't have luck, you lose your rank

[sterile stone]

There's no incentive to play havoc after hitting 40 and getting true survivor.

[timid seal]

Premade is still tough to get people for 40 games. i just did flawless execution 15 & 15 games takes like 4 hours ffs

[lusty turtle]

the last 40% is between oblivium and refinery delta

obliviums initial section is hell

[lusty turtle]

fun game mode

[sterile stone]

[frosty herald]

Imo i think your havoc rank should increase instsntly after doing someone elses

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[timid seal]

My only incentive to play is the penances & all I have left is the new ones, fee maelstroms & the new havocs after that ill fade away

[frosty herald]

Cause waiting a week to become havoc 20 is kinda doodoo

[sterile stone]

They need to iron out a few things with havoc, but that'll come with time

[polar nexus]

like choosing your map

😏

[frosty herald]

Weapon skins more insignias and more cosmetics

Oh i know

Having a point system for havoc modifiers

[elfin steppe]

I'd rather play damnation so I can actually do some damage.

[river jackal]

This is the general consensus. If I can beat a Havoc 30, why can't I just be Havoc 30 after doing that?

[frosty herald]

With a minimal point treshold

[misty ravine]

Oh but Reddit insists the instant you can choose your map it'll be Screaming Bell spam all over again

[sterile stone]

I'd like to at some point before the weekly reset hit havoc 40, the issue is. Finding randoms to do it is neigh nonexistant.

[placid fiber]

gets every bad modifier and then some

[spare talon]

its actually those evil playtesters that keep this from happening, blame them

[polar nexus]

wdym?

[polar nexus]

what??

[sterile stone]

He's shitposting.

[elfin steppe]

Three bolter rounds to kill a sniper.

[lusty turtle]

tbf, that HAS been the case the last 2 games in a row

[placid fiber]

Yeah, just like that cole fella.

[lusty turtle]

horn of magnus and screaming bell play %s wild

[elfin steppe]

If it wasn't for the rewards I wouldn't even touch this mode.

[sterile stone]

I mean if I have the choice of picking short, easier to finish maps

[polar nexus]

tldr the mode is not fun past a certain point

[sterile stone]

Or gloriana

I know what map I'm picking

[lusty turtle]

gloriana

[placid fiber]

the train mission? :3

[misty ravine]

Never saw an outsized proportion of Screaming Bell after the first couple of months of VT2

[river jackal]

Am I missing something about Gloriana? It really doesn't feel all that bad, especially compared to the likes of rolling steel

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-stop-sign-gif-14289335

[frosty herald]

Thats the point of it

[spare talon]

@lusty turtle does cranial give buffs besides the explosion. i forgot

[lusty turtle]

thats cause they swapped to wheat n chaff speedruns since there was only the barn monster spawn to slow you

[sterile stone]

The thing is, there really isn't a bad modifier, you can realistically work around all of them

[frosty herald]

Your required to take negative modifiers but some are higher and some are lower which count towards the minimum treshold

[timid seal]

Rolling steel is better now after update

[lusty turtle]

cranial doens't do an explosion?

[sterile stone]

Pus harden is about the only pain in the ass.

[spare talon]

the mutator

[frosty herald]

And the more negative modifiers you have the more rewards youll get in the weekly cache

[river jackal]

Pus hardened gunners are straight evil

[stone fern]

bruh

[placid fiber]

no ammo pickups, nurgle blessed, hunting grounds, specialist waves with weakened monsters, lights out, sniper gauntlet, foggy, pox gas, mutie waves, burster waves, pox hardened skin, etc etc lol

[frosty herald]

Yes and this stacks up to 30k plasteel and 10k diamantine at havoc 40

[misty ravine]

Wheat & Chaff was VT1 and people did Man the Ramparts for speedruns or Black Powder before the pathing exploit was fixed

[stone fern]

someone explain this to me

[lusty turtle]

oh, enemies are stun resistant, suppression resistant and stagger resistant if they have a worm

also their head is turned to infested

[placid fiber]

Oh and that's the kicker: you get no bonus resources as well as a new modifier

[spare talon]

first line is what i was looking for

knew there was something else

[lusty turtle]

oh right, i meant against the grain

its been a minute

[frosty herald]

Nono these are in the weekly cache

Give a reason to do high havoc

[lusty turtle]

the one dedicated wheet field map

[placid fiber]

That's included as well. :3

[sterile stone]

I still find that a really odd design choice to offer crafting mats for the later cache rewards

Like

If you're making it to hav 30+ you already have maxed out gear

The plasteel and diamante seems useless

[placid fiber]

It's for that 4th character you've left at level 1

[sterile stone]

I guess.....

That seems hella ineffecient.

But I guess.

[misty ravine]

What else were they going to do? Aquilas?

Fuck no

[sterile stone]

Titles

[placid fiber]

You guys are doing a really good job of selling me on not playing havoc lol

[sterile stone]

Cache exclusive outfits

Portraits

[timid seal]

Aquilas would have made Havoc addicting

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-freezer-frieza-freeza-laughing-gif-11930602

[sterile stone]

Insignias

[frosty herald]

10 aquillas per havoc rank

[timid seal]

Havoc would have been cracked open if Aquilas were rewarded lol

[sterile stone]

The all black outfit really isn't even all that much of a bragging rights thing

Since you deadass can just farm low level havocs to get it

[misty ravine]

Outfits gotta be drip-fed via the rotating shop

We're lucky we have as many free ones as we do

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/drip-babymonster-baemon-babymon-bm-gif-9686602459664067129

[sterile stone]

Meh I guess.

[river jackal]

Iirc you have to do a 25 to complete the set

[sterile stone]

25 is piss easy to get to.

[timid seal]

Yea I like penance tied outfits because Ive already seen a few people rocking the new penance helm & to me thats insane lol

Im only at 4500

[river jackal]

I don't know what game you're playing

[spare talon]

quote our ogryn after fucking up a captain
"ja, das tank und spank"

[misty ravine]

I don't agree with it but I don't see it ever changing. Vermintide 2 is still full of unused cosmetics in the game files after all

[placid fiber]

Yeah, just grab 3 of your god-tier skilled discord friends and go ham lol

[river jackal]

But with teammates like these, who needs enemies

[sterile stone]

You can ask cole

We've literally been queing with randoms

[river jackal]

Idk where some of yall find these randoms

[spare talon]

party finder

[frosty herald]

Achlys stubber?

[placid fiber]

I mean I could... but... I'm still burnt out... I'm starting to get a lil bit of the gamer itch, but, it's just not there yet x.x

[sterile stone]

He didn't mean literally you goober

[river jackal]

Every random I play with dies in the first or second section of a given op and leaves immediately

[spare talon]

he has a those shorter guns

cant remember

no one uses em

[tropic pelican]

most of my randoms die in turns as i look away from them to revive the others

[frosty herald]

Rippergun

[rough galleon]

i hardly know her gun

[placid fiber]

autopistol?

[timid seal]

Are you talking with the randoms prior to game start to coordinate & decide to run or not run the game?

[sterile stone]

I knew something was wrong when I saw a level 89 veteran with infiltrate, ds4 , no field improv, no support talents at all

I knew shit was gonna go tits up

And I Was unfortunately correct.

[placid fiber]

How important is field improv for havoc?

[sterile stone]

VERY

[placid fiber]

Good to know

I"m guessing the ammo aura is as well lol

[sterile stone]

Like havoc has shown me how selfish alot of people's builds are

And how that will easily fuck the team over

[paper pine]

If only i had 3 nukes on my ogryn then field improv would make havoc piss easy

[sterile stone]

I literally said this earlier

Veteran can literally give ogryn a endless stream of nukes

It's just

[placid fiber]

So my lacerate fleshtearer stamina block efficiency knife with an autopistol infiltrate build won't work?

[frosty herald]

If you dont run field improv your throwing

And voc is nigh mandatory in high havoc

[elfin steppe]

Ammo crate at 35 or 40 only replenishes like 25% of ammo and one nade.

[sterile stone]

.00001% of the veteran population takes field improv of the talent that regens grenades to teammates.

[frosty herald]

Plasma exe stance can work on non pus havoc

[placid fiber]

(I don't even have a knife on my vet)

[elfin steppe]

And all the enemies are notoriously hard to kill if you get the green skin modifier.

[stone fern]

i could actually feel the joy in the nuke ogryns heart when i gave him an ammo crate and told him to go nutes and take all charges

[sterile stone]

Like giving your team a neigh infinite source of grenades like nukes or immos for simply gunning down endless hordes of specials

Like that shit is soo free

[elfin steppe]

Everybody is a fking gamma radiation monster.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-smile-gif-10315643652749609661

[sterile stone]

And people don't even realize it

[sterile stone]

I'll say this

And I dunno if cole has seen it

But ogryn nukes don't insta kill on 33+

[stone fern]

its so over

[sterile stone]

It leaves them at like 20% hp

[stone fern]

and thats why rock is king

kill flag not hp damage goes hard

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-rock-formation-rock-geology-rock-mineral-rock-crust-gif-2162056086362167871

[sterile stone]

Ogryn's 25% bonus damage is fucking GROSS

Oh my god it's so nice

Run up on a captain

[river jackal]

Give me Rock and Soften them Up, and my life is yours

[lean lark]

No bro like.. 25% dmg is bad bro.

[frosty herald]

Give knives a kill flag

[sterile stone]

Watch some goober with a ds4 lay that captain out in 10 seconds by themselves

[stone fern]

aim better noobato

[sterile stone]

Shit hurt my soul

[stone fern]

or throw two knives

[lean lark]

25% buff to base damage that then gets increased by every single other buff SUCKS.

[frosty herald]

On weakpoint noob

[stone fern]

unironically knives still stagger a lot

just throw another one

[sterile stone]

I wanna know just how much damage you can stack onto a target

[elfin steppe]

Last time I saw our vet die to the traitor captain by two power sword swings.

[sterile stone]

Like vet's mark, ogryns taunt

[elfin steppe]

He was asking us what happened

[sterile stone]

What else

Bro and the best part about ogryn's taunt

If yo have endless hordes of specials and elites

It almost comes back instantly

So you can just keep spamming +25%

[lean lark]

smite (10% base) taunt (25% base) vet mark (28% iirc on 8 stack talent) brittleness (depends on source and original dmg dealt but is a like 5% dmg buff due to rending magic)

[sterile stone]

Which is fucking CRAZY if you think about that

[lean lark]

then for player dmg buffs

It's a long list I'm not typing on phone

[sterile stone]

There's also suppression damage buffs aswell

[lean lark]

yeah you can stack a ton of dmg

[river jackal]

And knockback/knockdown

[sterile stone]

Ngl it's gonna feel weird going back to auric's after I hit hav 40

[lean lark]

why would you go back to aurics

[sterile stone]

I can't keep suffering

[placid fiber]

for potatoes

[lean lark]

take it like a man

[sterile stone]

Like I just wanna hit 40 just to say I was good enough to do it.

[placid fiber]

In the nose?

[lean lark]

or derank and play 30's

[cerulean moth]

Cause jts like a rapper who’s made it returning to the hood

You get killed

[sterile stone]

I still haven't hit 35 yet...

[cerulean moth]

Return to auric sucker

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-laugh-kepala-ubi-gif-1769729172946268170

[sterile stone]

Bro it's actual torture

[cerulean moth]

I only hit 20 🥳

[sterile stone]

I'm just hovering at 32

[cerulean moth]

I hope they aren’t lying about helping people adding to your rank

At the end of the week

Or was I misinformed

If I was daddy will kill himself

[placid fiber]

I'm at 0 cuz I haven't felt like gaming lol

[lean lark]

now real question is are the havoc caches going to be actually good amounts of resources

or dogshit

[placid fiber]

Yes

[cerulean moth]

I wish the havok caches weren’t resources

[sterile stone]

I'm gonna take a guess and say maybe a hav 40 crate is like.....

[cerulean moth]

And had other shit

[sterile stone]

10k plasteel?

Maybe?

[placid fiber]

inb4 is ends up be the lowest reward

[sterile stone]

I'd be surprised.

[lean lark]

I haven't needed to farm mats in so longb

[lone matrix]

skins or weapons with Special effects

[lean lark]

what was the max plasteel from damnations

[sterile stone]

We'd never

Bro imagine animated weapon skins

[lone matrix]

i ment like blessings

[sterile stone]

Or actual special camo variants of outfits

Like the all black mobian outfit

But it's got golden streaks on it

[cerulean moth]

If want some skins on the level of v2 shit yeah

Glowing…

[lean lark]

someone made a mod that replaces your relic blade model with rindas sword

[cerulean moth]

Mhm…

[lean lark]

It has all the effects too

then you have for the drip for customized camos

[lone matrix]

which thing annoyed me was you couldn't use weave weapons as skins for normal mode

[lean lark]

modding is the average players best friend

[sterile stone]

I just wish we had a armorset with something that stood out

Like golden armor stands out

And it'd be fitting for "End game" content

It'd make people actually wanna get it

[lone matrix]

glows green

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[cerulean moth]

Y-yeah..

🤫

[lean lark]

The amount of gold-filled material and patterns I've seen when messing around with for the drip is absurd

[sterile stone]

I think beb made like a tiger camo outfit for zealot

[cerulean moth]

That’s straight up what penance gear was like when the game came out b

[lean lark]

then we get like 6 of them

[cerulean moth]

When people had the zealot candle

It was like

[sterile stone]

And it was black with golden tiger stripes

[cerulean moth]

You had a massive penis

[sterile stone]

I dunno

Like I know I like opulent stuff

But gold just catches people's eyes

[cerulean moth]

Same brah

Purple gold

[sterile stone]

Something yeah

[lean lark]

all I want for zealot cosmetics is a full set of plated armor

[tribal estuary]

what perks should i put on my bolter for boss dmg?

[lean lark]

unyielding

only perk that you can put for extra boss dmg

[tribal estuary]

does unamoured give increased dmg to bosses?

[sterile stone]

Bosses are full unyeilding

[lean lark]

no, only unyielding and flak(for scab captains)

[misty nova]

No
Unyielding does

[tribal estuary]

ik unyielding does but i swear i saw it on a vid that unarmoured increases boss dmg since they dont wear armor

[lean lark]

it doesn't

[misty nova]

How would that work?

[cerulean moth]

This reminds me of the 2+ wound curio rumours

That one time

Being that back

We used to be a real discord channel

[shy hull]

It might be a bit confusing, but enemies only have one "type" of armor : Not wearing armor doesn't always mean they're "unarmored" becasue "unarmored" is only one type of enemy without armor. The other types of non-armored enemies are unyelding and infested

Unarmored is a poor name because it leads to confusion : It should have been called "fragile" or something

[vague depot]

Fartshark

[tribal estuary]

what should be my other perk then

[shy hull]

Depends on the weapon entirely

[vague depot]

Think they were talking about bolter

[shy hull]

Oh yeah mb i missed that

[cerulean moth]

Curse the name

[vague depot]

I don’t remember what I ran but it was probably carapace unyielding or carapace elite

Probably unyielding

[cerulean moth]

Thoughts on ragers having carapace now

[shy hull]

For boss damage unyelding is all you'll get, if your bolter have the rending blessing you can go for carapace dmg, or you could go for flak if it has puncture

[cerulean moth]

It’s fucken my body shottijg ass up

[sterile stone]

You tweaking?

[winter furnace]

boltgun doesnt have a rending blessing

[vague depot]

Carapace unyielding puncture shattering

[shy hull]

I strongly advise you not taking the +10% dmg perks as they're all kinda useless : They don't give you enough damage on anything to econ bullets

[vague depot]

Hasn’t let me down yet

[lone matrix]

it isn't that bad decapitating ragers with flak helmets

[cerulean moth]

Brittleness

[winter furnace]

yea

it has brittleness

[shy hull]

I thought it was bolter not bolt pistol

[tribal estuary]

doesnt brittleness just do the samething bruh

[winter furnace]

yeah it is boltgun

[cerulean moth]

Yeah just for your teammates

[winter furnace]

no brittleness increases dmg taken

[polar nexus]

I don't die! No until death!

[shy hull]

Okay i said "rending" instead of "brittleness" geez

[winter furnace]

has nothin to do with armor to my knowledge

[shy hull]

oh lord...

[winter furnace]

well to be fair they're like
very different things

[cerulean moth]

Hang you for your sins

I- I don’t think they are

[vague depot]

Brittleness is just more damage but for the whole family

[winter furnace]

they are though

[cerulean moth]

Ye

[shy hull]

Brittleness has everything to do with armor

[vague depot]

Rending is armor pen or something

[winter furnace]

but it doesnt

[sterile stone]

I mean that's different than me getting a zealot running marty and no corruption cleanse....

[winter furnace]

it just increases damage taken by the enemy

[shy hull]

It reduces the dmg reduction enemies get from armor

[sterile stone]

On corruption puddle modifier

[lone matrix]

she admitted her mistake so it is fine

[cerulean moth]

F I see one of you say it’s not the same thing again

[winter furnace]

i mean yea all im doin is correcting someone

[cerulean moth]

I kiss you on the mouth

[shy hull]

and it slightly increase damage on ennemies who have no armor

[lone matrix]

yes

[winter furnace]

im not advocating for them to be banned from this server forever for one tiny little mistake

[shy hull]

to put it simply, if carapace reduce dmg by 90% for a weapon and you inflict 40% brittleness / have 40% rending, you'll deal 50% dmg instead (90-40)

[lone matrix]

i responded to the helmet guy

[vague depot]

That’s a lotta numbers

[cerulean moth]

Math nerd

[vague depot]

Just point bolt gun barrel at crusher horde and fire until no more

[cerulean moth]

Fuck break points

It either does or it don’t

[shy hull]

but on a target without armor, you'll deal a whopping 4% extra dmg since it's only 10% as effective

[cerulean moth]

So really

You have a 50/50 chance to one shot anything

Either it happens or it doesn’t

[lone matrix]

i gonna throw π at you

[cerulean moth]

That’s how I think about both

[hard bough]

methinks dealing more damage good

[cerulean moth]

I’d eat it

[vague depot]

Overkill damage

Delicous

[winter furnace]

no its bad actually ur wrong

[cerulean moth]

Damage is a dumpstat

Grrr grrr

[vague depot]

12k crit headshot on a poxwalker

[lone matrix]

...

[cerulean moth]

Even nurgle feels that shit

[hard bough]

we should consider doing this to a burster instead

[vague depot]

I’m gonna cook up some instant ramen and crack a egg into it

Like those YouTube videos

[sterile stone]

He's still walking because he's pox hardened on a havoc 40

[cerulean moth]

Videos or shorts

[sterile stone]

[vague depot]

I think they added more stuff but I’ll just take it by the horns

[vague depot]

Shorts

[vague depot]

I hate this place

[cerulean moth]

Who else hardening the pox right now?

[sterile stone]

I dunno if this is the best train of thought

[cerulean moth]

I’m straight up poxing it right up or as one would say…corruption damage sfx

[sterile stone]

But I feel like bleeding out pox hardended mobs is the way to go.

[lusty turtle]

actually, pus hardened has inverse scaling so it doesn't inflate health too much so its only 50% ranged dr at 40 🤓

[winter furnace]

ooooo you wanna throw knives at poxbursters while your allies are in range

[vague depot]

I should go throw some ground beef and diced mushrooms into the ramen

[cerulean moth]

Shut up nerd

[vague depot]

Soy sauce would go hard on this rn

[cerulean moth]

Put that mod back in his cage….

[vague depot]

Would it actually idk

[cerulean moth]

Grrr

[lusty turtle]

burns and explosives also work (infernus accatran with krak grenades poggers)

[sterile stone]

I'm taking an aluminm spatcula to your knees

[cerulean moth]

Same

[vague depot]

Same knee or two in one

[sterile stone]

Hold on there

[winter furnace]

i want to make an effective flamer build so bad but its so slow raaaghhh

[sterile stone]

Pox hardended is weak to fire and explo?

[vague depot]

It all loops back to tknife

[sterile stone]

Wait better yet

[winter furnace]

never again no one can ever force me to use tknife

anything but that

[sterile stone]

Does brittle or rending apply to pox harden?

[cerulean moth]

Use the forbidden bottomless crit flamer…

[lusty turtle]

its ranged only damage resist, so it resists just ranged damage itself

[cerulean moth]

Endless flames..

[vague depot]

Ooooh animation cancels ooooh fast flamer and bolt gun pullout

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-jello-me-showing-big-chungus-memes-to-my-friends-gif-22368570

[cerulean moth]

Holy shit that’s scary as fuck

Mods mute them

[lusty turtle]

as in does it reduce the dr? no

[cerulean moth]

Scaring us

[winter furnace]

oh wait my silly brain saw "knife" and thought combat blade and not throwing knives nvm

i mean yeah tknife nice

[sterile stone]

Ah ok....

But the flamer doesn't have reduced damage does it?

[vague depot]

astaghfirullah

[stone fern]

anyong wanna play?

[sterile stone]

I figured only bullet based weapons get affected

[winter furnace]

well like
i would imagine the direct hit damage is reduced but that does nothing so it doesnt matter

[lusty turtle]

reduced impact damage, but not reduction to the burn no

[stone fern]

i wanna practice relic sword more

[sterile stone]

Holy shit

[stone fern]

i got a smyker and had to leave last mission 😭

[sterile stone]

So the hard counter to pox harden is to just get a fire staff or flamer

[vague depot]

Same here I keep forgetting to power on

[lusty turtle]

now they just need to make a burn resist mode as well

[stone fern]

still does big damage without it tbh

[vague depot]

Fair

But it does bigger when it’s on

[stone fern]

ye

[vague depot]

Ye

[stone fern]

wanna do a run?

[lusty turtle]

yup

[vague depot]

Gonna try out the martyrdom build some kind lad gave me a while ago

[gusty flare]

Zealots what is dumpstat on relic blade

[winter furnace]

mobility

[vague depot]

Ah I just woke up lol I’ll need a few hours to get everything together

[stone fern]

majority says mobility but i do heat

[gusty flare]

Why heat

Im curious cuz i saw it too

[vague depot]

It doesn’t feel like there’s much of a difference between 60 and 80 heat

But then again the same can be said for mobility so it’s honestly up to you

[stone fern]

dodges are too bad with low mobility and heat effects dps least

[gusty flare]

Hmmm

[vague depot]

I just go with mobility because of pure reflex at this point

[stone fern]

thats my reasoning at least

[frank night]

I just check the ranges

[vague depot]

How do you take on bulwarks with relic sword

[gusty flare]

Alright gues sim hunting a low heat one too

[winter furnace]

i have 70 heat 70 mobility so i have the worst of both worlds its awesome

[gusty flare]

I have 2 mobility ones rn

[frank night]

mobility's big thing is dodge count, at 60% you have the max dodges and the dodge range reduction is like single digit %s

[vague depot]

I feel like relic blades low mobility is covered by the ability to stagger or straight up murder everything in a 10 meter radius in front of you when powered

[dark venture]

if u focus on everything being 80, mobility should be at max regardless tbh

[stone fern]

not really you still lose mobility not dodges but mobility still

[vague depot]

Surely I’ll be able to one shot a crusher with fotf when I level this thing up

[elfin steppe]

Bolter

[vague depot]

Yea that’s sick but can I do it with relic sword

[frank night]

I have decapitated a crusher with the sprinting poke + charge for crit altho I'm not sure if someone else shot it first

[dark venture]

dodges matter more than running a tad bit faster imo. i treat mobility as a burner stat unless im on knife zel and even then

[vague depot]

Yea it’s possible it’s just that rn my weapon is a bit lacking in stats to do that

[elfin steppe]

You can't, The sword has no way to stagger the Bulwark.

[vague depot]

Takes like 1-2 extra heavy attacks to bring them down even with fotf

[frank night]

against one bulwark its fine

against the ai director special whoops all bulwarks just pull out a gun

[vague depot]

That’s rough

Flamer it is

[elfin steppe]

I don't know about you but I'm not standing there and waiting for his attack, I usually just run away.

[frank night]

half the time in random pubs any individual bulwark instantly gets a krak stuck to it anyway

[vague depot]

Ah you do have a point

[clever swan]

usually when they're 90% dead and about to die too

[vague depot]

I don’t really like the idea of depending on random pubs to do something for me though

[frank night]

I sword the bulwark in the head twice and then the krak grenade vaporises the decapitated torso is a frequent thing

[smoky pewter]

Zealots

Mk 2 heavy las, or Mk 10

[elfin steppe]

Evi can actually stagger bulwarks,you use rev to stagger them and immediately cancel your rev and kill them.

[misty nova]

2

[frosty herald]

Imo force sword needs 80 defense

Warp resistis dump since you use the cleave sparingly

[shy hull]

I struggle to find a way to deal effectively with Bulwarks with Relic blade

[misty nova]

Pew pew pew somehow has better dps than pew ... pew ... pew

[frank night]

on the mobility thing

this is where a 60% mobility sword sits on the stats

[frosty herald]

Power up slide when it attacks you and then stab when theyre opened up

[winter furnace]

dodging aroudn them and baiting out their swings

[shy hull]

i know that

[frosty herald]

Force sword special projectile cleaves through bullwark shields

[shy hull]

that's how you dela with them wioth any weapon

[elfin steppe]

What if there are four of them

[shy hull]

but isn't there a better strat ?

[winter furnace]

if it aint broken dont fix it

[shy hull]

Like with evisc where you can open them up instantly

[frosty herald]

Let your team handle them

[elfin steppe]

I told you just run.

[shy hull]

Because waiting them to open up require that your team don't monkey brain activation on them and empty their mags in the shield

[frank night]

if there's four of them and I'm alone and can only solve it with sword I'm running away to find ammo or a barrel

[vague depot]

I heard you can stagger them if you block their attack

Something like a parry I think

Never actually tried it

[shy hull]

I actually never tried that

[vague depot]

I usually just kept dodging to the side and swinging

[shy hull]

might be a good strat

[frank night]

altho with bulwarks my thinking is less 'these guys will kill me' and more 'will these guys last long enough for a trapper to spawn behind them'

[elfin steppe]

That's why I basically never wait for them to attack.

[vague depot]

I have that same mindset but it instantly turns full aggro if I get hit with a single shield bash

[frank night]

I'll usually give it a go

[vague depot]

Might just be muscle memory from vermintide

[frank night]

but the ai director seems to like pairing bulwarks with disablers and bombers

[elfin steppe]

Bulwark Taunting.

[vague depot]

If I get shield bashed I get unreasonably pissed off

[elfin steppe]

That's what I call it.

[frank night]

so I just make it the psyker's problem

[vague depot]

Lmao

[winter furnace]

true

[vast basin]

I hate bulwark+flamer combo. if you are going to make enemy flames go through straight through an enemy ogryn+shield atleast make them take more damage from it

[frank night]

Mutie + flamer is the combo for me, esp when they do the slams

let me just hold you nice and still in the lake of napalm ( :

[vague depot]

Can you run up to a mutant grabbing someone to force a throw like with chaos spawn

Or is it just random chance

[frank night]

iirc you only get the throw if it grabs you next to a wall

[plucky sparrow]

They only instantly throw if you’re dragged against a wall

[vague depot]

Damn

[frank night]

it will happily slam with three teammates invading its personal space

[vague depot]

똥개 바뷰이들

[clever swan]

same

[misty ravine]

oh boy I could totally do something cool right now

Bulwark:

[ornate bone]

I can pace myself and wait for the bulwark to open his shield while attacking
The rager clipping inside the shield:

[hushed knoll]

MOOTIFIOS HI ILY

[frank night]

oh no he's here

[sullen forge]

Plural ragers*

[frank night]

the multi armed hindu rager deity

[vocal pulsar]

]

[frank night]

greetings mankar

[vocal pulsar]

hi

i spammed my keyboard to wake up my pc

] was the result

[hushed knoll]

Omg mankar hi

It’s Christmas

Seeing motorists and mankar in the same place

[stone fern]

im literally konrad curze i can predict the future but i suck at it

[hushed knoll]

Mittins

[stone fern]

hi stan

[hushed knoll]

Hi claddington boots

[hushed knoll]

[stone fern]

4 armed rager modifier

yes

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-face-robot-face-lick-lick-robot-lick-gif-21171864

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-awkward-dance-gif-9885437

[winter furnace]

average zealot chat

[placid fiber]

@hushed knoll stan! look! cows kissing!

[ornate bone]

What havoc diff do you guys think it becomes necessary to take blessings like wrath?

[frosty herald]

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