zealot-class

[lunar fable]

with unlimited power cycler

[copper hawk]

Hate hate haaaate vetz ,,

[storm crypt]

i would expect at the least

veterans are going to get a new mark that uses the new heat gauge

[sterile stone]

Still waiting on the las shotgun

[copper hawk]

Yah and theirs wont be shit

Just fucking

[mighty root]

Vet gets a power dagger

[copper hawk]

Calling it lmfao

[storm crypt]

the relic blade is based

[copper hawk]

It sucks

[storm crypt]

it goes woosh woosh vrmmm

[copper hawk]

Shit dodges terrible swing speed underwhelming blessings

[storm crypt]

and the enemies go like

[storm crypt]

pplshh poushh

and its like blue and stuff

[copper hawk]

Psyker got the good one

[mighty root]

Crit chours is pretty cool in havoc

[copper hawk]

Fast, great damage, good dodges

A fuckin screenwipe

[copper hawk]

It can kill 30+ enemies in one 3 charge slash

[hearty nebula]

U DIDNT HAVE T LEAVE!!!! @winter furnace

[copper hawk]

KYAAAA

[hearty nebula]

D:

[misty ravine]

Does charged relic blade still have the bug where it has 0 effective dodges right off the bat?

[hearty nebula]

now i have to carry this noob

[copper hawk]

Y DO DEY HATEZ US !!!

[copper hawk]

Yep lmfao

[winter furnace]

no u dont

[copper hawk]

At least they fixed the bug where if u were blocking and interacted w something it crashed the game

So neglected they didnt bother 2 check if that would happen before they dropped it

[inner ginkgo]

anyone can help me with a zealot penance which can only be done in private group?

[violet hornet]

Nice megathron

[copper hawk]

Ping Ainz, they'll help u

[opal star]

today I shall die immediately after being revived

[inner ginkgo]

@violet hornet thank you, it's a kronos i think 😄

[violet hornet]

Oh shit that's just a better mega

[copper hawk]

Despaire..

[rocky nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/653799011676979200/804606130672238612/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif?ex=6753491a&is=6751f79a&hm=29cd10411779fa5f7c85bdf062b97edf5b3981eb1eb51892af128a4fbeab9d45&

[copper hawk]

Splorsh

[rocky nacelle]

splish

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-water-cat-speed-fast-gif-15849413971037490889

[trail mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[storm crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-path-of-exile-2-poe-poe-2-poe2-gif-10220168355466966859

[fleet zealot]

in a 4man zealot havoc team

the A-Men

[storm crypt]

me absolutely tweaking waiting for this last day before poe2

[winter furnace]

@hearty nebula are u done yet......

huh i didnt know 3 stamina curios existed

[hearty nebula]

ye

[wintry crag]

What's the current meta for zealot

[hearty nebula]

just finish

[hearty nebula]

why

noob does not need meta

[fleet zealot]

yes

[hearty nebula]

noob

[light badge]

mind if I join you two?

[hearty nebula]

you need to learn how to play game first before think about meta

[fleet zealot]

not shredder auto pistol

[short elk]

good video settings so i stop getting FPS pauses that ruin my fucking sword push

[hearty nebula]

owned

[wintry crag]

Rude

[hearty nebula]

i mean

im not wrong

and its not bad to be a noob

[winter furnace]

we doinf t3's

[visual compass]

Well GG lads

[light badge]

change your LOD seting to maximum (5.0) and see if that improves it for you

[hearty nebula]

oki i am good to go @visual compass

[light badge]

I'm chill with that

[untold nebula]

honestly just try stuff out, see what you like

[visual compass]

I made it to Havoc 34 before I had to leave

[wintry crag]

I was thinking of the thunder hammer and bolt pistol build

[visual compass]

So close but so far.

[hearty nebula]

use boltgun instead

[winter furnace]

hold on i will ask host

[light badge]

word

[hearty nebula]

brittleness+bleed blessings

[copper hawk]

Flamer,,

[hearty nebula]

with carap+unyielding perks

[visual compass]

We got a bugged mission for H35 and I'm still a little salty about it.

It legit kept crashing all our games

[light badge]

woe, unexpected error be upon ye

[vague depot]

wouldnt the horde clear be a little bit lacking

[hearty nebula]

its thunder hammer

[winter furnace]

ok if cat can invite u u can join ;3

[hearty nebula]

its going to suck at it anyways

[visual compass]

So back on H34

[wintry crag]

But why choose bolter gun over bolt pistol tho

[vague depot]

ah fair enough

[visual compass]

But I'll finish to 40 when I get back

[hearty nebula]

because bolt pistol is kind of

meh

[winter furnace]

burst damage

[hearty nebula]

on zealot imo

[winter furnace]

ya bolt pistol silly

[vague depot]

its full auto you mulch literally hordes of anything with it

[hearty nebula]

bolt pistol is more useful on veteran

[light badge]

bolt pistol is a good middle ground between the two revolvers

[misty nova]

Throwing Knives into chastise into a keystone according to your preference

[wintry crag]

I was going for thunder hammer build

[hearty nebula]

i'd still take boltgun or regular revolvers over it on zealot

[hearty nebula]

1sec

[fleet zealot]

amen is over

rip

one good run

[wintry crag]

Isn't the bolter gun pain in the ass to reload?

[untold nebula]

I've been having a lot of fun with shotgun + heavy eviscerator mk3/relic sword now

[fleet zealot]

one person left then we got a new person who immediately left after we hit the character screen

[untold nebula]

the slug is so nice just to chonk away snipers when others are busy

[hearty nebula]

yes and?

[fleet zealot]

throwing knife cancels

[winter furnace]

to be fair the bolt pistol isnt much better in that aspect

[fleet zealot]

you can shorten it twice iirc

[winter furnace]

i say this as a bolt pistol enjoyer

[hearty nebula]

@wintry crag here thammer build

go ham

1 fucking second

[winter furnace]

(mer)

[wintry crag]

Uhhh

[hearty nebula]

darktide turned HDR on again or some shit

[light badge]

holy gamma

[rocky nacelle]

fake drip

get real slop

[hearty nebula]

it does NOT look like that on my screen

[light badge]

I believe you but like

still

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-cant-unsee-spongebob-gif-9909513

[wintry crag]

Take your time

[rocky nacelle]

i need to flex my superior soyker drip again

[winter furnace]

i wish darktide had individual armor pieces so i could become the crayola warrior

[rocky nacelle]

next time I get back on

[frosty herald]

realest drip ever

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/exodia-memes-body-parts-smile-stare-gif-17002245

[light badge]

Dorn but with modest clothing

[hearty nebula]

i already sent you the build

now go learn how to play the game

[frosty herald]

im replacing the sack hood with the 50 penance assists

[lunar fable]

JUMPSUIT FOR LIFE

[haughty haven]

IF ya'll didn't have knife or relic blade would ya'll go for knife or relic blade lol

[hearty nebula]

relic blade

knive is never bad but its

boring after like 2 matches

[misty nova]

Relic 💯

[hearty nebula]

its literally just a knife

[haughty haven]

i've never done knife on anything but ogryn

and that's not the szme lol

[hearty nebula]

ogryn doesnt count

because all their melees are dogshit

[haughty haven]

shield is good

[hearty nebula]

its good

but they all feel like shit

they aren't fun

[haughty haven]

oh i dig it man

the larger than life feeling they went for is on point

[hearty nebula]

thus

dogshit

[opal star]

all you do with knife is run around fast and get carpal tunnel

[hearty nebula]

^

[short elk]

i still wait for ogryn brass knuckles

[haughty haven]

is relic similar to FGS?

[short elk]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-sfm-team-fortress2-sourcefilmmaker-gif-18587844

[echo breach]

Other than the moveset being SOMEWHAT similar, I would say no

[short elk]

or just bare hands

[fathom flint]

hey guys

[echo breach]

Like the way they work in their specials aspect is entirely two different things

[fathom flint]

im pretty new to the game and im looking for ppl to play with

im lvl 17 atm

[misty nova]

At work rn
Sorry

Well not really sorry

This is my living after all

[frosty herald]

pickaxe

[short elk]

turn ogryn into big dwarf

[slate haven]

Fellas…

🏂

[sterile stone]

This is certainly a take....

Wew lad

[modern lintel]

definitely one of the takes of all time

[hearty nebula]

dont care

[fleet zealot]

holy washed out batman

[haughty haven]

heat management dumpstat for relic?

[hearty nebula]

i think they're dogshit because i fucking hate how they feel

[hearty nebula]

no

[misty nova]

Mobility

[hearty nebula]

read pin

[misty nova]

Darktide gaming

We don't care about mobility past 53%

[haughty haven]

i just figured it has ass mobility like the psyker one

[misty nova]

Or was it 51%?

[fleet zealot]

it does

but

[slate haven]

22%

[fleet zealot]

everything else is a damage boost

[haughty haven]

how does the heat mechanic work? just a peril ripoff like the plasma?

[vague depot]

nah its just a power boost and if you overheat you just cant use the boost for a while

no self harm included

[slate haven]

Sadness

[haughty haven]

oh but you can't dissapate it?

[slate haven]

Nah

[plucky gate]

you turn it off for it to passively vent

no active quell

[slate haven]

This

[vague depot]

if you put your melee away or deactivate your special it will lower

[fleet zealot]

not actively

[haughty haven]

that's a big oof

[plucky gate]

just turn it off for like 3 seconds

[north sedge]

its pretty easy to maintain

[haughty haven]

while i got ya'll here does it need more cleave at all or is it gucci as is?

[misty ravine]

Also like all power/chain weapons the activation turns off if you get staggered

[visual compass]

Ngl

[marble maple]

I saw someone play as zealaot and using bolter but he pull it out very quick and start blasting already ... so I wonder how did he do it

[vague depot]

what gun should i take with relic blade

[marble maple]

is there a animation cancel or something?

[visual compass]

I have a heat dump sword with Rampage and Overcharge for Power

[haughty haven]

this pisses me off so fucking bad with the psyker one lol

[vague depot]

cancel the pullout animation by using a throwing knife

[misty ravine]

Wrath is recommended for Havoc since enemy hitmass is so high, otherwise Cranial+Rampage is the usual recommendation

[vague depot]

also works for flamer

[marble maple]

oh

[visual compass]

Flamer always

[marble maple]

I don't like thorwing knife..

[vague depot]

yea thats unfortunate just slide backwards to make room for the pullout then

[marble maple]

[haughty haven]

finish the thought damn it

[misty nova]

The Wrath blessing is only okay for high havoc

[north sedge]

you dont need flamer

take whatever you want with relic for ranged

[visual compass]

That's it, the point of the sword is just having rly high burst dmg

[haughty haven]

oh ok was jw cuz the fgs feels really bad without it in maelstrom lol

[visual compass]

Martyrdom doesn't really work on Havoc tho

[fleet zealot]

needs cleave for high havoc

[hearty nebula]

it grows on u

[fleet zealot]

otherwise you'll be fine cranial+rampage

[misty nova]

Zealots passively block when activating the sword
So not a lot of trouble on those seconds

[marble maple]

should I change perk

[lean lark]

anything works, i suggest either flamer or laspistol(laspistol suppresses gunners very efficiently and deals good dmg against them, plus you never have to worry about ammo)

[haughty haven]

is this one of those things that depends on TWBS?

[misty ravine]

Plus you run a lot faster with the Laspistol out than the relic blade

[marble maple]

also just notice my relic blade have mobility of 2

[visual compass]

Nope

[lean lark]

doesnt matter since you can poke attack qq spam

[misty nova]

Uh no?
It's a built-in block when activating

[haughty haven]

ok cuz i haven't been running that since i came back to zelly

[winter furnace]

@hearty nebula tired of t3s or dced

[visual compass]

I will say, Havoc has made me love full HP Zealot though

[twilit blade]

How is Enemies within these days?

[visual compass]

There is a lot of tech with him people do not see

[hearty nebula]

i left on accident

[misty nova]

It's after Disdain so uh

[twilit blade]

Trying to decide between it and good balance on this tree I'm messing with

[misty nova]

Very optional

[lean lark]

still good

[winter furnace]

oh ok

[north sedge]

you're only taking ewew if you're going through that part of the tree

[visual compass]

They should make it 5% again

Every other class has a 5% talent

[north sedge]

🤔

[blazing peak]

hey is martyrdom any good

[north sedge]

yes

[misty nova]

Yeah

[royal vortex]

really they should've just fixed the issue where it was 8.333% instead of the listed 5% because of tickrate weirdness

and it wouldve been fine

[visual compass]

I almost never end up going down that side of the tree because I feel like everything else is better.

[south folio]

the forbidden relic sword tech of sprint-cancelling your sprint activations/deactivations

[vague depot]

i really wish they let you get full martydom stacks in damnation and higher

[twilit blade]

Was looking at a tree like this and trying to decide on my last points

[hearty nebula]

are you?

[twilit blade]

2 points left

[hearty nebula]

cause if not then no

[visual compass]

Not forbidden at all

[twilit blade]

using relic sword so Disdain seemed nice since its got hella cleave

[visual compass]

You could do that same movetech with Helbore

Before they nerfed it

[fleet zealot]

disdain is alirght

[south folio]

i mean forbidden in a sarcastic manner, because sprint-cancelling them causes your activations/deactivations to not go through

e.g., if you sprint cancel your activation, your sword in fact does not get activated

[misty nova]

You're lacking Duelist

[south folio]

this window is fairly short though

and you're unlikely to do the sequence of inputs for it very often

[lean lark]

this is what i would recommend (yellow are the options)

[south folio]

so it's just a minor bug

[fleet zealot]

IJ dodge stacks?

[hearty nebula]

no misinformation allow...

[twilit blade]

If I was going crit based I would have, but without the crit as well it seemed iffy

[lean lark]

what misinformation

[north sedge]

duelist is good for any weapon pretty much

[fleet zealot]

why didn't you highlight IJ dodge stacks

[hearty nebula]

^ that basically

im tired

[fleet zealot]

the one that makes IJ usuable in long engagements

[hearty nebula]

i will not elaborate on anything

[twilit blade]

IJ actually feels unplayable without dodge stacks

[lean lark]

"that is what i recommend"

i dont play with ij stacks

[hearty nebula]

u play like noob...

:3c

[winter furnace]

do i play like noob...

[hearty nebula]

a litle bit

ya

[winter furnace]

wrong

trick question im pro

[placid fiber]

Funny, another person who takes 5% sprint speed over 20% cdr on backstab kill

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-please-help-gif-23923351

[twilit blade]

I feel like I have used the backstab node, and I just never get the backstabs for it

[placid fiber]

180 degrees of the enemy's hit box gives it

[haughty haven]

is columnus a good grab for bossing for zeal?

[placid fiber]

if you hit the back on the kill hit you get the cdr

[rocky nacelle]

We’re zealots

melee is faster in every single case

lmfao

[trail mantle]

beat the boss to death (possibly with a hammer)

[twilit blade]

I think the problem is both getting back stab positioning and getting headshot angles

At least for me

[lean lark]

its a lot easier to do than you think

[twilit blade]

Also is it eliets/specials only or does chaff kills give it?

[placid fiber]

It happens more often than you realize, and can save a run more often

[light badge]

is possible to survive a sniper on Havoc 40?

on someone beside ogryn

[placid fiber]

any kill that is a backstab kill gives the cdr

[lean lark]

any overtoughness gen

[trail mantle]

I vaguely miss the old crit cd talent (pre tree rework)

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jdYM8baDhY9fGWc-2?invite=cr-MSxQSkksMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

found a bug

[trail mantle]

using that with old devestating strike and just fucking spaming wrath

[south folio]

backstab CDR has absurd cases where enemies are aggro'd onto another teammate, so you can just annihilate groups of enemies from the back and get your ult back

[twin wagon]

Bark, spidey senses

[south folio]

and it's percentage CDR as well so chorus will disproportionately benefit from it

[twin wagon]

Jokes aside

[lean lark]

download creature spawner mod and go in psykhanium and practice dodging and attacking when you're facing the enemies side

[remote lark]

voc is way better and more consistent if you have a build that can take it

[lean lark]

shouldnt take long to engrain

[twin wagon]

THere's been a LOT of visual bugs lately

[remote lark]

backstab hitbox is weird

[twin wagon]

with walls, doors and puzzles

[lean lark]

yeah i always grab it on chorus

[twilit blade]

It being 3 points on this tree doesn't feel great to go get, and since no scourge its iffy

[remote lark]

if you can get it

:p

[lone matrix]

which relic great sword mark do you prefer with reasoning why would be neat

[twilit blade]

Its still really good even then, just a bit too much for the points it asks yeah

[remote lark]

read pins

mk3 has easier access to horizontals

mk10 has easier access to overheads

its 100% personal preference

but most poeple enjoy the easier acccess to the horde clear combo

[lean lark]

mk10 because lights are very good for mixed hordes, overhead overhead pierce single target combo

[north sedge]

mk10 is the easy access to horizontals, generally just simpler moveset

[remote lark]

also mk10 looks nicer

[twilit blade]

Honestly, I found the Mk3 also had more comfortable single target looping

Maybe I'm weird, I just found it easier to use overall

[remote lark]

personal preference

either one is fine

[twilit blade]

the fact that the push attack goes into the hoard clear is a big plus for me

[remote lark]

mk3 is easier to use
mk10 is slightly better

imo

[lone matrix]

throws mastery skin later onto it

[twilit blade]

Yeah that makes sense

mk10 combos feel more finnicky to me

prob cause I'm bad at doing H H L combos

[remote lark]

build is in the pins as well

[harsh quartz]

how do most zealots set up their curios

[lean lark]

whoever came up with this modifier is genuinely a spawn of satan

[remote lark]

2 toughness 1 health
3x gunner resist
1x sniper resist
2x stamina regen
3x toughness bonus

[lean lark]

vent purge sniper gauntlet on streoids

[remote lark]

oops

[lone matrix]

uhm i am use to block cancels and other stuff from vermintide

[remote lark]

there

2toughness 1 health
or
3 toughness
or
If you have a weapon that spams push attacks u can take 1 stamina 2 toughness

that's what i reccomend to most people

[lean lark]

i run 17% tough on all three, +tough(3) +health(3) +gunner res(2) +corruption res(1)

[vague depot]

does lowering or raising gamma increase brightness

[remote lark]

yes

[harsh quartz]

alright ty both

[vague depot]

?

[twilit blade]

Forgetting the most important curio perk, ordo dockets

smh

[remote lark]

with the state zealot chat is in

someone is gonna shill for that at some point

[lone matrix]

until the point you have ebough ordos

[misty ravine]

Unironically yes for new level 30s. We forget what it's like to not be sitting on millions of dockets

[twilit blade]

More is never enough

[remote lark]

i got in like four seperate blowout arguments yesterday

someone was saying sprint eff was meta on curio

and another person was saying mobility dump is bad, actually

[twilit blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fafo-gif-14687394541940232982

[remote lark]

[lone matrix]

rusher

[remote lark]

i told them to take the brick off their shift key and stop playing in malice

they got a little upset

[lean lark]

learn to just ignore and/or send something stupid

works like a charm for me

[remote lark]

the problem was that these ppl were answering questions to new players

[lone matrix]

i would body block them so they stuck with doggos or nets

[remote lark]

[rocky nacelle]

cause you are used to posting dog shit and getting told it’s dog shit

[remote lark]

🤨

i dunno about that..

tk bad... siphon good.....

kind of smelly..

[rocky nacelle]

your fault if you aren’t telling it to him

[lean lark]

if you dont understand my wisdom then go along

[remote lark]

too true

@lean lark

i have an important message for you

your ears.. only

u suck

[rocky nacelle]

Wisdom aka tism

[vague depot]

finally got my mod working

[rocky nacelle]

If this is you being “wise and smart” I’d hate to see you be dumb

[vague depot]

still not the resolution im used to but i think i can run the game now

[lone matrix]

then it crashws after character select

happened to me this week

[vague depot]

damn

[lean lark]

you can keep slandering

[remote lark]

u forgot the best part

'why are tk bad? why is siphon good?'

[lean lark]

have fun with it tho hope it changes something

[remote lark]

i'm not telling you

[lone matrix]

tk?

[remote lark]

throwing knives

[rocky nacelle]

Hoping you leave again

[remote lark]

dawn priest says throwing knives are bad and siphon is good

[rocky nacelle]

only change we’re hoping for

[harsh quartz]

it's kind of annoying that ever zealot cosmetic set is just plain weird, even the krieg set is kind of dumb

[remote lark]

two abyssmally stupid takes

please never listen to them

🙏

they need to go back to deadlock

now !

[vague depot]

i didnt crash the mods work

[lone matrix]

throwing knifes are neat for gunner special kills

[lean lark]

throwing knives are bad because in havoc due to pus hardened skin and cranial corruption making any important bps from it regarding gunners/snipers unreachable

[vague depot]

lets fugging go

[remote lark]

[remote lark]

You said they were bad outside of havoc, dawn

don't make me screenshot you again

[north sedge]

the krieg set has the only good skull mask though

[frosty herald]

if you run siphon you will lose either cranial and wrath

wrath is mandatory and cranial is nigh mandatory

[lean lark]

okay

[frosty herald]

(for havoc)

[misty ravine]

Yeah the sky blue penance breastplate is horseshit

[remote lark]

dawn has the opposite problem of the earlier guy

can't dodge

😔

therefore, everyone must play siphon

brick needs to go on the shift key..

and no tk either in regular aurics (they're bad but i won't tell you why)

[lone matrix]

dodge weave push kill

[frosty herald]

with force greatsword you can run cleave with peril to force cleave on higher difficulties

[remote lark]

STOP YOU'RE SCARING THEM

[lone matrix]

i played shade in vermintide that are basics

[harsh quartz]

they're all bizarre, I can't find anything I like, ever other class has mad drip out the wazoo

[lone matrix]

i want dagger sword in this game

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle i am literally using the most dogshit bgs

[lunar fable]

my one down btw

[remote lark]

📷

caught in 4k

[lunar fable]

was from the other gunker

[lone matrix]

?

[lunar fable]

blowing up a burster i was about to push away

[frosty herald]

oh yeah i didnt down on that havoc 19 game

[lone matrix]

throwing knifes when you are to lazy to pull out your gun

[vague depot]

What’s the single target combo on mkx relic blade

[remote lark]

'tk are dogshit especially in havoc'
'why are they dogshit outside of havoc?'
'i'm not telling you'

dawn take

[harsh quartz]

wait there are people who think tknives are dogshit? what?

[remote lark]

yeah

dawn's a moron

they post horrible takes then ego people who ask them for any reasoning

tanner brain

but at least tanner tries to back his shit up

[rocky nacelle]

“Conversation for mature people” “ you can’t understand my wisdom” @remote lark aka I can’t have an actual compelling argument because I’m stupid and have 0 good points to counter argue if someone calls me out

The dawn classic

[remote lark]

[lone matrix]

heavy1->heavy2->light 3 repeat

[remote lark]

sighs

[delicate shadow]

wtf you're named bark but your discord status is meowing

[remote lark]

:)

[rocky nacelle]

he’s a spy

from tf2

[remote lark]

in vrchat i once saw a ripped tf2 spy model with a furry image over his disguise mask

in a furry world

[frosty herald]

from 20 onwards ill run havoc in premades

[rocky nacelle]

peak

[remote lark]

it was really fucking funny

[lone matrix]

thats a fox ... cat software running dog hardware

[frosty herald]

cause randos are downing too much for my liking

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/joel-haver-playing-an-rpg-for-the-second-time-playing-an-rpg-no-you-are-lying-joel-haver-lying-gif-23134251

[remote lark]

[rocky nacelle]

That reminds me of this video I’ll try and find it for you

[frosty herald]

and getting beacon of corruption

[remote lark]

erm actually guys

loner is the best aura

[harsh quartz]

I enjoy suffering

[remote lark]

if u dont agree with me

ur immature

and im not explaining it to you

silly zealotites..

sighs..

[rocky nacelle]

here’s a conversation for mature people “says nothing cause he actually has nothing to say”

[remote lark]

maybe one day u can be as cool as me

[lean lark]

im only saying this one time, continuing the convo after this is just you wilfully ignoring my words and shouting in the obvious echo chamber thats here.
tknives are dogshit out of havoc and inside of havoc, because you can have immolation grenades instead.
throwing knives in havoc will not work effectively when cranial corruption and pus hardened skin are a modifier. Show me an ingame clip of a throwing knive disabling an entire area and killing dozens of enemies in one use.
syphon is good in havoc due to extra instant regeneration of toughness while fighting a horde, if your teammates are unable to give you ranged help while fighting a horde having syphon will stop you from dropping dead due to "the emperors light".

[remote lark]

[lean lark]

i hope i didnt use any words too big for your vocabulary

[lone matrix]

loner is interesting but it rather give zealots bad habits

[elfin steppe]

[remote lark]

im saving this

[rocky nacelle]

You can’t even capitalize I wouldn’t worry about vocabulary

big dog

[lunar fable]

wtf

[rocky nacelle]

lmfao

[remote lark]

let me translate dawns post really quick

[lunar fable]

tknives are dogshit outside of havoc now

ig

[remote lark]

"I can't horde clear so i need immo nades"
"I can't dodge or slide or do anything to avoid chip damage so i need siphon"

[lean lark]

so, both not reading what i said and instead resorting to slandering

[marble maple]

ok... after I try runic blade with faith of the fury

[remote lark]

"And because I'm bad and dont want to feel bad you all have to take them too"

[elfin steppe]

why

[marble maple]

I don't want to use anything else anymore

[lean lark]

thank you for proving me right, have a good time

[remote lark]

go back to deadlock

stop spreading misinformation noob priest

[rocky nacelle]

I read what you said and you’re dumber than I thought thanks for that

lol

[elfin steppe]

there is nothing changed about knife or zealot talents recently

[remote lark]

thanks for the copypasta though

[rocky nacelle]

tknives are bad outside of havoc why? You can take immo nade

[lunar fable]

you realize i was sarcastic right

[rocky nacelle]

like good argument

[lunar fable]

[rocky nacelle]

lmfao

[remote lark]

im only saying this one time, continuing the convo after this is just you wilfully ignoring my words and shouting in the obvious echo chamber thats here.
tknives are dogshit out of havoc and inside of havoc, because you can have immolation grenades instead.
throwing knives in havoc will not work effectively when cranial corruption and pus hardened skin are a modifier. Show me an ingame clip of a throwing knive disabling an entire area and killing dozens of enemies in one use.
syphon is good in havoc due to extra instant regeneration of toughness while fighting a horde, if your teammates are unable to give you ranged help while fighting a horde having syphon will stop you from dropping dead due to "the emperors light".
i hope i didnt use any words too big for your vocabulary

silly zealots... if everyone's dogshit like me.. NOBODY WILL BE DOGSHIT

[rocky nacelle]

Tknives are dog shit out of havoc why?

Immo grenades exist

so true

so very true

[lone matrix]

...

[rocky nacelle]

Your only thing that made remotely any sense

was tknives sucking in havoc

everything else you’re just dumb as a bag of rocks

lmfao

[remote lark]

[rocky nacelle]

Thank god he won’t be saying that again

he only is gonna say it once

[plucky geyser]

I still like Syphon

[sturdy abyss]

What’s the dump stat for the power sword?

[rocky nacelle]

look out guys

[sturdy abyss]

Heat or mobility?

[remote lark]

mobility

read pins

[remote lark]

u can like and play with whatever u want

but the idea that siphon is the best option for the sword

[lean lark]

mobility

[lone matrix]

watch out for ogryns throwing rocks at you

[remote lark]

is just objectively wrong

only bad players 'need' siphon in havoc

[trail mantle]

which one is siphon again

[frosty herald]

now hold on

[lunar fable]

i forgor

💀

[remote lark]

% toughness back if u hit 3 enemies if sword is charged

[trail mantle]

oh

[remote lark]

its momentum but worse

[lunar fable]

amazing

[rocky nacelle]

deflector should work against friendly fire

[remote lark]

and momentum is already bad

[lean lark]

16% tough on hitting 3 enemies with charged swing

[marble maple]

how do I get above 15% toughness on curios?

[frosty herald]

nvm i thought of old cranial corruption

[remote lark]

pray to emprah

[trail mantle]

momenutm but less interesting, so comfy but not ideal for damage

[lean lark]

at level 30 you can get 16% and 17%

[lone matrix]

you are zealot to time

[lean lark]

from requisition store

[marble maple]

ok

[remote lark]

yeah its a crutch talent

you can easily play without it

[marble maple]

do zealot prefer toughness or max hp?

[remote lark]

toughness

[frosty wave]

Just go for damage blessings and kill them before taking toughness damage ez

[lean lark]

generally toughness

[fleet zealot]

toughness

[marble maple]

[trail mantle]

which ever keeps you alive the longest

[lone matrix]

it does not help in difficult situations with multiple crushers or other things

[red swift]

Throwing knives are weaker now because of the ranged DR enemies get, and elite gunners now move while shooting, and snipers don't get one shot bodyshot anymore in higher havoc levels

They aren't dogshit though

[trail mantle]

I went from using 3 hps to using 3toughness

[red swift]

The nodes leading to them are top tier as well

[remote lark]

dawn priest is stupid and is the only person who actively shills for siphon

https://tenor.com/view/discord-blocked-meme-gif-24191901

[red swift]

Stun and immo grenade are still great though

[hearty nebula]

oh yeah they're not bad

[lean lark]

yeah i only said the knives are bad, the nodes are good

[hearty nebula]

its just that everything above them kind of

sucks ass

for the most part

[remote lark]

hrup

he said they're bad outside of havoc

that was the issue

[red swift]

Huh

[lone matrix]

i would go for wrath instead for more skulld to the golden thrown

[hearty nebula]

yeah they're bad outside of havoc tho

due to the fact that they literally only shine in havoc

because your goal isnt to kill shit

[remote lark]

he said throwing knives suck outside of havoc* @red swift

[hearty nebula]

its to survive it

[remote lark]

that was the issue

[fleet zealot]

any havoc gamers

[hearty nebula]

ah

wait

[fleet zealot]

[red swift]

That's skill issue then methinks

[hearty nebula]

who said throwing knives suck outside of havoc

[remote lark]

dawn priest

[hearty nebula]

oh

well dawn priest is just a known dipshit

he just says stupid shit for the sake of it i think

[frosty wave]

What's the best use for immo grenades on havoc and auric dam?
I've always just saved stun grenades for reviving people who got skill checked by 3 crushers

[remote lark]

dont use immo nades on aurics

use throwing knives

[hearty nebula]

^

[remote lark]

immo nades are used on havoc because TK an't oneshot important stuff any more

[north sedge]

immos are fine, tknives are fine, stuns are fine, just depends on what you want and what build you're going for

[lean lark]

ambush hordes/fast clearing big clumps of enemies

[royal vortex]

im looking to recreate the famed 'ultimate cracklot'

[red swift]

Throwing Knives still let me pull out my Bolter faster so

[remote lark]

[delicate shadow]

this is the correct take

[lone matrix]

have you a good build with fury of the wicked an tk

[lunar fable]

peak...

[fleet zealot]

if this greatsword psyker spams smite

[frozen glen]

i disagree

[hearty nebula]

noob /s

[fleet zealot]

i'm fucking killing them with my mind

[remote lark]

fun?? in my zealot chat??

[delicate shadow]

but also you're wrong so now I can dunk on you and be correct!!!

[remote lark]

[frozen glen]

i also disagree

purely because you agree with it and i hate you

piss yellow name man

[delicate shadow]

let's disagree to agree

[remote lark]

noobquino....
sighs../

[hearty nebula]

piss role

[lunar fable]

lol!

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-face-robot-face-lick-lick-robot-lick-gif-21171864

[lunar fable]

pee name

[coarse birch]

hello redverse long time no see (im not in here often )

[lunar fable]

laugh at this man

[remote lark]

wtf is this

[hearty nebula]

petition to rename warden to piss role

[delicate shadow]

the hell is that

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21711203

[royal vortex]

it's stan's favorite

[frozen glen]

hello yoshi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this chat fucking sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[royal vortex]

whenever you see stan send him that gif

[north sedge]

yea

stan loves it

[coarse birch]

yeah

[vague depot]

How do you do the lunge attack with relic sword

[misty nova]

Dryad Blossoms be like

[royal vortex]

every time i open the chat it seems to somehow get worse

[lean lark]

did he get over the meatpig

[remote lark]

@slate haven wake up nade

i need to mog you

[light badge]

I'm high as fuck and I still did pretty well I think

we had a bot all the way through

[misty nova]

Sprint then heavy

[frozen glen]

i dont know how its possible either

[royal vortex]

sprint, wait for the blade to get into the stab position anim and then do a heavy

[north sedge]

stan doesnt get over anything

[light badge]

what do you guys think?

[winter furnace]

dont worry im in chat now so itll get better

[heavy arch]

no girls allowed

[winter furnace]

nevermind bye

[remote lark]

wait

you believe in women?

women aren't real when will u learn this..

[marble maple]

is it runic blade that shoot out flying blade or something

[heavy arch]

i dont believe in u

[remote lark]

[remote lark]

no its the psyker sword

[lone matrix]

what do you think about this?

[frosty wave]

Women were patched out ages ago, controversial balance change tbh

[north sedge]

that's force greatsword, psyker weapon

[remote lark]

no

[marble maple]

ah ok

[lone matrix]

reasoning

[lunar fable]

AMAZING

this psyker

instantly got downed

[peak cipher]

every zealot build should take Duelist

[lunar fable]

and then rage quit

in my 21 havoc

[remote lark]

the talents i crossed off in red are either not needed or terrible

[winged vessel]

how instantly are we talking

[remote lark]

the talents i amrked in green are very important

[lunar fable]

refinery delta 17

before the stairs

[hard nexus]

:(

[lunar fable]

dogshit randoms

[remote lark]

if u have a nextra point take good balance

[lunar fable]

and about to get me demoted

[rocky nacelle]

no girls allowed

that means you too hahnda

[remote lark]

inv me?

[winged vessel]

zealot chat has become a man cave

[peak cipher]

depending on weapon you can drop faithful frenzy

[light badge]

@rocky nacelle I have determined that Deflector is useless actually unless you're blockmaxx memeing with the FGS

[lone matrix]

looks like a lot of dodging

[peak cipher]

yes

that is zealot

[hard nexus]

swap EWEW and disdain for duelist and second wind

[light badge]

you can take EE with Warp Slice for similar ranged dodging effects while actually doing damage

[rocky nacelle]

and what brought you to this conclusion

[remote lark]

yes

[rocky nacelle]

yucky warp slice

[remote lark]

you play zealot

[light badge]

plus it staggers the gunners too

[peak cipher]

zealot is a lot of dodging and a lot of dr

thats the big gimmick

[north sedge]

well, everyone should be dodging in darktide

[hard nexus]

does the uncharged one stagger them too?

[rocky nacelle]

Guaranteed crit on special every 20 seconds sounds good on paper but it’s not

[plucky sparrow]

hey guys is this a good curio to use

[north sedge]

like it's a central mechanic

[light badge]

it does

[hard nexus]

oh swag

[remote lark]

🤨

[light badge]

the main thing tho

slow moving projectile

[peak cipher]

i physically cannot run relic blade without momentum

[light badge]

so it'll proc ee only everything it hits, refreshing it a lot

[frosty wave]

Fatshark loaded a ton of "If Zealot dodges, give a bajillion stats for 5 seconds" into their perk tree that you're collecting

[peak cipher]

the attack speed by default makes me sick

[light badge]

you get a lot more than one second out of your one crit

[hard nexus]

oh that’s true

[lunar fable]

i gotta block that guy first

[hard nexus]

same logic as assail EE

[lone matrix]

i gonna test your build tommorow bark

[rocky nacelle]

ok hahnda what you found is actually

a pretty cool synergy

but I hate warp slicer

personally

[light badge]

no worries

[lone matrix]

i don't play today anymore

[rocky nacelle]

but EE and special interacting is cool

[light badge]

you can just use a high crit build and scrier's

since you have like

80% crit or something

[rocky nacelle]

it’s close to 80

If you go double crit blessing

with scriers

[hard nexus]

with 2 crit blessings?

ah

[rocky nacelle]

and take the crit aura and node

[hard nexus]

feels weird to run 2 crit blessings though

[lunar fable]

@remote lark 6217214496

[lone matrix]

i dislike sunstorm grenades

[hard nexus]

feel like i’m missing out on a lot of damage without precog

[light badge]

I fucking love stun nades

S tier nade

[rocky nacelle]

cause you are

[hard nexus]

lol yeah

[light badge]

all of zealots nades are S tier tbh

[rocky nacelle]

precog blessing is stronger than precog scriers node

[light badge]

in their own right

[rocky nacelle]

combining both is where things get silly

[remote lark]

the problem with stun nades is that everything above it is absolute shit

[rocky nacelle]

On top of combining DD

also

[light badge]

@rocky nacelle EE doesn't proc on-dodge effects if you dodge ranged damage does it?

[hard nexus]

zealot needs vet grenades as in, being able to take any of them

[slate haven]

I was pinged in here

[rocky nacelle]

No

[light badge]

AGREE AGREE AGREE AGREE

[remote lark]

after this havoc run

we're playing

[rocky nacelle]

not to my knowledge unless fatshark shadow buffed psyker again

[light badge]

every class does, honestly

[rocky nacelle]

it be so broken

[lunar fable]

i feel like

i gotta gatekeep now

for 21+

[slate haven]

Sounds good. My internets a little choppy so I may DC but it should be fine

[remote lark]

21 is damnation

yes

[light badge]

you do

[hard nexus]

psyker would be even more busted if u could take PA and assail tbf

[lone matrix]

fire grenade tree sounds like range build

[remote lark]

dont let idiots in this game i only have time for 1-2 runs with u

[lunar fable]

it's a pain to judge applicants when you can't inspect them

zzzz

[slate haven]

Sounds good.

[light badge]

refer to this screenshot @lunar fable

[lean lark]

update true level mod

[light badge]

these are the kinds of people who just hit H16

[remote lark]

get us a vet

[rocky nacelle]

If EE procced on dodge effects then precog would have been ran on every single ds4 soykers used back then @light badge

[lean lark]

shows levels in party finder now

[remote lark]

ah w/e this works

[lean lark]

helps you filter it better

[light badge]

real

[red mesa]

saw someone reccomend flak on relic blade, but im not noticing any real breakpoint differences lol. I was thinking unyielding for reaper 2 shot and boss dueling + carapace.

What you guys been running?

[lunar fable]

i haven't updated it in a while

[slate haven]

FS code is 7110019283

[hard nexus]

middle is weird because it starts with 2 ranges talents, then 2 more, but then leads into martyrdom, a keystone that only effects melee

[remote lark]

ctrl f me and look for my spreadsheet

i show the breakpoints

it needs flak

but if u really dont wanna take it then uny wouldn't be terrible

[lean lark]

maniac elites, covers all elite/specialist breakpoints

[remote lark]

noob priest suggesting maniac on a weapon that can stun 4 ragers a swing

[twilit blade]

Does zealot charge naturally put you in the sprint animation if you aren't mid combo?

[remote lark]

classic

[red mesa]

no carapace for consistant 1 or 2 shot depending on attack seems wrong to me

[misty nova]

Nope

[red mesa]

but im no expert on the thing so

[slate haven]

Nah, bro is an elite gamer such as myslef

[remote lark]

elites clets u oneshot

mamox

[lean lark]

cara isn't needed to oneshot crusher

[rocky nacelle]

lumi

[vague depot]

What’s the relic sword movetech

[rocky nacelle]

why did you summon the moron known as nade

[lean lark]

you have enough buffs from your tree

[remote lark]

im omogging him

[misty nova]

You have to prep the jousting stab then chastise

[winter furnace]

i just got clipped its so over

[red mesa]

ya i didnt even consider maniac bc its naturally just a rager destroyer lol

[rocky nacelle]

that’s like being taller than the tallest dwarf by 2 inches

[slate haven]

Nah I’m just an elite gamer

[rocky nacelle]

try and mog someone good

[red mesa]

can duel a whole pack of ragers with it no problem

[rocky nacelle]

for once lumi

mogging all these scrubs like nade frog clad do nothing

[red mesa]

ah ok

[lean lark]

run hold stab until you see the attack come out, qq ,wait until you see yourself get in the stab animation and repeat

[slate haven]

It’s chill bro just tryna get better at the game

[twilit blade]

I feel like this running stab fury one shot is so impractical mid mission

[remote lark]

dawn takes siphon.

thats why.

[twilit blade]

maybe from slide instead?

[remote lark]

dont listen to them.

[remote lark]

he said he was better than me

so i told him to play with me

im gonna kill him

[twilit blade]

Def from slide is more practical

[rocky nacelle]

you mean the advice I told you before, but you couldnt listen cause it didnt come from your daddy?

[lean lark]

It's not as long as you have ability cd

[rocky nacelle]

lmao

get real

[woeful oyster]

Does relic blade have a sprint cancel into the straight jab?

[slate haven]

I’m not trying to be rude, but you know I fuck around w like everything right

[red mesa]

ive been using bolter with it and its obviously good, but i was considering dropping to bolt pistol to have slightly more mobility on my ranged. having 2 clunky weapons is rough in havoc

[visual stream]

The pinned build recommends flak/elite for horde and to hit a FotF one shot on crushers, along with a couple of other BPs. I like to take carapace/flak for overall better crusher/mauler kills and horde but unyielding sounds workable

[slate haven]

Like I’m not actually disregarding what y’all r saying

I’m just trollin

[rocky nacelle]

realistically I still think you're as dumb as the day you left, you'll have to prove otherwise

until then

GL

[twilit blade]

@remote lark Guide has Elites is all thats needed for Stab fury combo to one shot crusher, but doesn't seem like its reaching the BP for me. Do you need other buffs proced for it to do so?

[red mesa]

i was using cara/flak too and felt good. was considering dropping flak for unyielding but i havent tested BPs on flak, just felt like maybe it didn't need it

[slate haven]

Dude

That’s so condescending

But whateva

[remote lark]

FOTF

fotf > stab with elites should oneshot

[rocky nacelle]

its not condescending im straight up shit talking you

lmfao

[slate haven]

Real

[lunar fable]

[remote lark]

kick dembongo

[lunar fable]

what the fuck

[remote lark]

i just watched some war crimes

he does not dodge anything

[lunar fable]

was that 358 doing

running in alone

[remote lark]

kick them both

[lunar fable]

fake ass havoc 22 rank

[remote lark]

[lunar fable]

horrible

[rocky nacelle]

sorry I paid for mine

😇

[remote lark]

we did get darktided though

8 tox bombers

on a tox gas mission

HAHA

what the FUCK

[peak cipher]

classic

[remote lark]

😂

[visual stream]

It's really cool that relic blade is a well made enough weapon for us to actually debate what perks to use on it

[slate haven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-homelander-you-need-me-you-need-me-to-save-you-vojta-zachrance-natky-gif-27579265

[visual stream]

Unlike flakiac weapon number eight billion

[lunar fable]

soyker

[slate haven]

THIS IS A JOKE FELLAS

[lunar fable]

no melee

[remote lark]

(not really)

[visual stream]

Kinda is yeah

[twilit blade]

mk10 only?

[hard nexus]

actually flelites

[remote lark]

(it needs flak for horde bps and elites for crusher/shotgunner bps)

can't really debate that easily

[slate haven]

What’s bps?

Oh

Nvm

[remote lark]

...

[slate haven]

Brewkpoints

[remote lark]

nade.

[slate haven]

I was thinking DPS

My bad

[remote lark]

🤨

if you have momentum stacked at all

you'll kill it

[red mesa]

loi idk whats happening if you guys are really beefing or trolling, not trying to start a fight. Been here since beta, almost 2k hours and can solo aurics but i can def tell bad advice from good advice so no need to call anyone out lol,

im just interested in everyones opinion its fun to try other peoples build ideas sometimes I just like to poke others brains and since I work a lot I like to ask for peopels testing results instead of 100% doing it all myself on new weapons times

[remote lark]

and/or sustained assault

[visual stream]

What is the "horde BP" you mean

[fleet zealot]

welp first havoc loss

and it's cause of a cock up cascade

[slate haven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-homelander-you-need-me-you-need-me-to-save-you-vojta-zachrance-natky-gif-27579265

THIS IS A JOKE

[trail mantle]

1 shot threshold on weaker enemies

[visual stream]

Gotcha

[remote lark]

flak lets you cleave through and kill an extra bruiser or two as well as contribute to the shotgunner and gunner bps

i posted a tenative spreadsheet a while ago

[lunar fable]

can you see applicants @remote lark

[slate haven]

Can I get the link to those high key?

[remote lark]

no

just let them in and kick them if they're low level

one by one

[lunar fable]

it's all shitters

[frosty herald]

in party finder?

[remote lark]

#zealot-class message

[woeful oyster]

Does Relic Blade have a sprint cancel into stab?

[frosty herald]

no

[slate haven]

Thanks

[visual stream]

I run flak either way so not debating there but I much prefer being able to deal with the "oh shit" enemy group when there's ten of them

[vague depot]

What’s the move tech on relic blade

[frosty herald]

but you can slide in a neutral stance for an instant stab

[mighty root]

@spare talon wanna play havoc?

[red mesa]

@remote lark having trouble finding your spreadsheet hah got a link?
out of curiousity have you preferred the MK X or MK II in practice?
In live matches I find the MK II performs much better. The push attack gives you the "saftey" the weapon is lacking from dodges, allows you to duel an entire pack of ragers and it has great stam management

[remote lark]

#zealot-class message

[fleet zealot]

omfg

[red mesa]

ty

[frosty herald]

up to prefference

[remote lark]

mkx slightly better becauase lights for mixed horde clear

[frosty herald]

i enjoy mk2 a LOT

[remote lark]

mk2 more comfy

[fleet zealot]

this vet must be the host's friend

cause wtf

[slate haven]

Real

[misty nova]

It's on the XIIIg as well lmao

[fleet zealot]

everoyne is running good shit and we got this vet

[frosty herald]

the light heavy horde loop is good to proc toughness on heavy kills

[slate haven]

Mk 2 is IMO just so much cleaner

Nicer animations

[woeful oyster]

Mk2 was a sweeping push attack. Ez pick

[frosty herald]

i do genuinely like that havoc forces you to use off meta blessings and setups

smoke grenades being genuinely useful

[twilit blade]

MK2 combos are so nice for swapping between single and hoard clear

[frosty herald]

wrath for cleave and such

[lunar fable]

@remote lark should be fine with w.e since it's havoc 20

[twilit blade]

only need to do one extra light to swap between your target combos

[remote lark]

ugh

fine

[slate haven]

I don’t have nitro anymore but I can still make a server profile?

Might bring back ye old Chris Chan “the classic” level pfp… the chats album cover tv pfp

[remote lark]

run it

[lunar fable]

what

[remote lark]

what

[lean lark]

I do like the fact the corruption aura has a very viable use

[twilit blade]

Someone hasn't done maelstroms looksl ike

[frosty herald]

either in a menu or hasnt cleared a maelstrom

[violet hornet]

What's mk2 relic blade's single target combo? I have only really used the mk10 so far