zealot-class

[jagged cradle]

And with gale the other day… you must love them or something

[rocky nacelle]

but on 23-24 I had like

100 toughness

lmfao

[light badge]

dude they're fucking magnetically attracted to me

[placid fiber]

@glossy sparrow Also you could try thrust/precog + uncanny if you want. I was just suggesting the meta blessing combo for the ds4 to you

[light badge]

I put on the +1 smite jump specifically for fucking over bursters that hide in hordes

[rocky nacelle]

Also hahnda there is no real “toughness value”

[light badge]

and refuse to explode

[glossy sparrow]

its ok i'm just learning thrust timing

i'm used to slow af thrusts

[rocky nacelle]

There is “I’m getting fucking shot I’m going to die in 2 hits” reactions

[glossy sparrow]

this thing kinda quick

[rocky nacelle]

no toughness value really

[light badge]

nah that's real tbh

I'm considering going back to stamina maxxing

[rocky nacelle]

I run FGS Voidstrike bubble DD

[placid fiber]

You have 0 toughness? 😮

[rocky nacelle]

And I’m still using my same curios I run for gunker

lmao

[zealous mesa]

Ogryn once ressed me in a fire twice and killed me

In auric

Same fire

[jagged cradle]

Bumpy weird

[rocky nacelle]

shut up noob

someone’s gotta counter the shooters

[jagged cradle]

I’m not a noob

We haven’t even played once yet

[placid fiber]

the 1 rager killing your 3 teammates from nearly full hp and toughness... on malice...

[junior perch]

anyone got an idea for a beacon of purity chorus zealot build with the new greatsword

[zealous mesa]

Fgs?

[zealous mesa]

In malice don't expect people to play well

[rocky nacelle]

if you want your toughness to get below 100 before havoc 24, but if you can play around it it’s fine

[placid fiber]

I don't expect people to play well on damnation lol

[zealous mesa]

Rager is like the one enemy where you have to change your melee strategy from whaling on someone

[placid fiber]

I expect 0 from randos

[zealous mesa]

Nobody blocks

[fleet zealot]

force greatsword?

[glossy sparrow]

on damnation is where i expect to drag corpses to the finish line by force

[rocky nacelle]

more like nobody side dodges vs ragers

[zealous mesa]

They just start swinging at the rager while he swings at you

[rocky nacelle]

(While also blocking)

[placid fiber]

I expect trash to be more useful than randos @zealous mesa lol

because it often is lol

[zealous mesa]

I usually get good teammates

Except for auric damnation this update

People are trying to figure out how to not get killed again

[placid fiber]

I've gotten the bottom of the barrel... I've learned to work with the tiniest bit of competence from randos lol

[zealous mesa]

My teammates keep leaving me to the horde now too

Which is really annoying

[fleet zealot]

charms you

[harsh quartz]

Mk1 shovel with 25% maniac and decimator enough to make a grown man smile

[rocky nacelle]

Kill’s you

[zealous mesa]

I've always been a backline player so I am able to defend myself from getting jumped but during a horde attack they kill the first wave and sprint off while I'm still stuck fighting two bombers three flamers and a trapper in a horde

[placid fiber]

Wow, nice badger

[winter furnace]

splendid

[zealous mesa]

I shoot them before they get to me usually

And then devils claw parry

Easy mode

[harsh quartz]

I main shovel veteran and eviscerator zealot. Like to spam left click and f on both. Easy

[rose vale]

I have a stupid question:

Htf do I get the Mk. II Relic Blade?

[placid fiber]

change the mk

[rose vale]

Wait

Oh yeah, that's a thing you can do now

[placid fiber]

Yep lol

[harsh quartz]

You can change marks whenever you want

Where you change cosmetic

[rose vale]

[placid fiber]

depends on the mastery level for some weapons

idk if it's for all

[twin wagon]

60% stability

I wonder why

[gusty arch]

Pious Vorne loves you

[rose vale]

Welp, ty. Its been like 3 or 4~ish months since I last played, so I'm still figuring things out from the things from Locked & Loaded

[placid fiber]

Happens. :3

[rose vale]

It do.

[placid fiber]

Can't expect everyone to immediately adapt

[fleet zealot]

gamer

[placid fiber]

Besides: Just blame Bandit

or Cole

[placid fiber]

Wow, that leemur is playing call of duty!

[rose vale]

Sounds good to me.

[fleet zealot]

what did i do

cause i borderline do nothing wrong, ever

i'm always correct

[rose vale]

You made me not play the update or smthn like that, idk.

[placid fiber]

That's what they all say

[placid fiber]

Yeah!

smthing like that lol

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/laimu-vtuber-live-reaction-limealicious-gif-13713361445235420592

i want those ear physics for myself

[placid fiber]

New darktide enemy... coming in the epic slaanesh update...

[fleet zealot]

vtubers would be tzeentch

[placid fiber]

Vtubers would be, but, I'm pretty sure the thing you posted would be slaanesh

[fleet zealot]

unless they aren'e seiso, but i'm pretty sure lime sticks to sfw content

[placid fiber]

That's what the top side says...

but when we go to what is behind the scenes...

We get this @fleet zealot

https://tenor.com/view/hopping-fluffy-gif-25867122

• gore

[indigo ravine]

is this sword even good on zealot?

i'm tempted

[placid fiber]

every melee is good on zealot, pretty much

With the mk7 and the parry you can 1 shot crushers with chastise

[fleet zealot]

the melk buy is alright but the blessings and perks are kinda meh

[grizzled aspen]

Good stat dist, you will change everything on it though.

[placid fiber]

^

[grizzled aspen]

Flak, maniac, rampage, shred.

If youre planning on using dclaw in havocs, change rampage to wrath.

[indigo ravine]

yeah i would swap everything

[zealous mesa]

No keep unarmored

[indigo ravine]

thanks

[grizzled aspen]

You do not need unarmored.

[fleet zealot]

no, flak is more important and then you need a parry BP

dclaw has good unarmored anyways

[grizzled aspen]

^

[fleet zealot]

and flak is needed cause your flak damage is garbage

[grizzled aspen]

Flak is indisputable on it.

[zealous mesa]

I didn't say don't take flak, I just said keep unarmored

I take both on mine

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah no you don't need unarmored either.

[frosty herald]

just do taht curio 3 times

[zealous mesa]

Savage sweep

Helps a lot too

[grizzled aspen]

You take maniac to 1tap dreg ragers.

And you never take savage sweep.

That blessing is a trap.

[fleet zealot]

is unstable power 80% strength

i don't remember

[zealous mesa]

It's just wrath with a different activation

[frosty herald]

ehem

[lean lark]

wonder how usable thammer is in havoc

[frosty herald]

UP TO

[grizzled aspen]

Go cleave 3 things in one stroke in havocs.

[fleet zealot]

listen i see the 5 stacks

[grizzled aspen]

(you won't be doing that)

[fleet zealot]

and i'm tired and stupid

[frosty herald]

combine warp rider with unstable power

[zealous mesa]

I haven't been able to get into a havoc game because of error 9999

Which they fixed today

So in every other mode it works

[grizzled aspen]

Wrath is infinitely better than savage sweep for havocs because you can actually get it to activate.

And outside of havocs, you run rampage instead.

[lean lark]

shock&awe slaughterer thammer meta was real all along

[fleet zealot]

yea

[astral brook]

Been a while since Ive made a flamer, is this good?

[lean lark]

Holy cow

[lean lark]

swap maniacs for elites

and imo cara instead of flak, but other than that it's good

[delicate shadow]

gorgeous flamer

[astral brook]

Im using it with my martyrdom relic blade zealot, goin full crusader

[grizzled aspen]

Do not change flak to cara.

Flak elites is BIS, one could argue unyielding for bulwark racism.

Carapace is not going to make your flamer magically begin to kill crushers.

[lean lark]

yeah it will

what

[astral brook]

I got my relic blade for crushers

[grizzled aspen]

You will do slightly more damage to crushers.

[lean lark]

have you tested it

[placid fiber]

change maniacs to unyielding/elites/carapace. basically: whatever you want dead the most of those options

[grizzled aspen]

Yes lmao, go burn an entire mag on one in the psykhanium.

[lean lark]

I already have

[astral brook]

Ill switch to unyielding probably

[fleet zealot]

cara elites+ penetrating flames

ez

[lean lark]

which is why I run elite cara pen flames

elite cara*

[astral brook]

bulwarks are really the only thing i sometimes struggle with

[placid fiber]

Cara now helps with scab ragers, tho

[fleet zealot]

melt crushers in 3/4ths a tank

[grizzled aspen]

They aren't an issue big enough to warrant dropping ammo on, imo.

They're still slow af.

[lean lark]

if carapace pen flames didn't make me kill crushers I'd run flak elites overpressure blaze away

but since it lets you kill an extra enemy type I use it

[frosty herald]

unarmored flack blaze away overpressure

[fleet zealot]

why unarmored on flamer lol

[grave cypress]

zealot is so fucking powerful How do you sleep at night

[astral brook]

lmao

[fleet zealot]

all the unarmored enemies get melted

go unyielding

[zealous mesa]

Unarmored make bad guy die faster

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[fleet zealot]

only enemies that live long enough to take the full 16 stacks of damage

[lean lark]

you told me you improved since we last played what is this take man

[astral brook]

Appreciate the tips fellas

[frosty herald]

high havoc horde deletion

[fleet zealot]

no everything else yamato said is correct for a non carapace flamer

[fleet zealot]

fuckin preface then LOL

[frosty herald]

no

[grizzled aspen]

Unironically unarmored might be the play for havocs.

[lean lark]

pus hardened skin doesn't affect flamer

[frosty herald]

you simply must know my intentions beforehand

[grizzled aspen]

Though I haven't run flamer so idk.

[zealous mesa]

realest weapon pick is still lawbringer/zarona shotgun with scattershot and manstopper

[fleet zealot]

the meta between auric damn and havoc + and havoc ++ is huge

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/970515317635825684.webp?size=96&animated=true

followed by this right?

[lean lark]

also pen flames helps clear havoc hordes

[frosty herald]

havoc has its entirely unique meta

[indigo ravine]

it better be good

[frosty herald]

penentrating flames simply do not help

[astral brook]

its so good

trust

[lean lark]

yeah it does

[zealous mesa]

I had to spectate someone using this and it was frustrating

[lean lark]

What is telling you it doesn't help

[zealous mesa]

they just did the light chain on everything

[fleet zealot]

LOL

[placid fiber]

True... pen flames doesn't help delete crushers, it only helps vs poxwalkers smh my head

[fleet zealot]

tbf sometimes i panick and light chain, or i do light chain vs elites in horde

[zealous mesa]

side sweep side sweep stab on everything from hordes to crusher squads

I think they were on controller

[fleet zealot]

i do 2 sweeps then stab the elite in the face

[frosty herald]

every specialist and mauler dies without it

[fleet zealot]

works for ragers and maulers

[lean lark]

yeah they die without overpressure too

[frosty herald]

its good armor penentration teamwide but this specs hard into hordeclear which is extremely useful on high havoc

[hard nexus]

pen flames is only really useful for crushers

[fleet zealot]

and scab ragers now

[indigo ravine]

is there agreed upon best mark to use?

[lean lark]

but now with pen flames your team deals more dmg too

[fleet zealot]

so 2 mobs

[hard nexus]

they’re still flak for DOTs

[lean lark]

preference

[fleet zealot]

that's unintended then

[placid fiber]

inb4 fatshark makes horde spawns random as well in havoc

[fleet zealot]

cause they should be carapace body/chest

[hard nexus]

nah

reapers are flak bodies but still unyielding

[grizzled aspen]

It's good, use mk2 over mk10 though. Horde clear is h1, h2, l3, loop h2 and l3. You can reset your combo with a PA to go back into h1. Single target is l1, h3, h4, loop h3, h4.

[hard nexus]

the DOT armor type is probably preset

[zealous mesa]

Aren't maulers flak with a carapace head

[grizzled aspen]

It handles much like mk3 evisc.

[zealous mesa]

I really struggle with the force greatswords

[hard nexus]

we’re talking about damage over time stacks and what armor damage they deal

but yes

[zealous mesa]

I mean do they count as flak or carapace for that purpose

[hard nexus]

flak

[zealous mesa]

Because it also affects psyker staff I think

[grave nebula]

sooo how do the new Relic sword marks perform?

[astral brook]

i like pen flames cause brittle is cool

[hard nexus]

crusher is the only enemy that’s carapace for DOT

[grizzled aspen]

Excellently.

[fleet zealot]

you are wrong noob

[hard nexus]

i was lied to by 6 people

[fleet zealot]

scab ragers are carapace body now

[astral brook]

incredibly, singlehandedly the reason im playing zealot again

[edgy plaza]

Between MKX and MK2 what has best heavy attacks on Relic blade?

[placid fiber]

You trusted them without doing the testing yourself?

[fleet zealot]

(it could have been stealth fixed in the hotfix)

[indigo ravine]

i'll give it a shot, thanks

[grizzled aspen]

Mk2.

[hard nexus]

can you check what reapers are for me pls

[hard nexus]

good point

[fleet zealot]

i like mkx h1-h2-l3 loop and putting in PA

[placid fiber]

it's down to preferance

[west trench]

mk2 is <3, mk10 is ass backwards moveset for me at least

[grizzled aspen]

Reapers should be flak.

[fleet zealot]

still unyielding with a flak jacket

let me chekc tho

cause i might be insaneq!

[hard nexus]

i mean for DoT

because if reapers are unyielding for DoT then i have no idea

[misty nova]

Both good
But apparently Mk2 slightly better single target

[hard nexus]

yeah then idk

‘

!

[grizzled aspen]

Mk2 uppercut has some kind of spicy modifier for single target.

[edgy plaza]

Roger that gonna use it in my havoc runs thanks all

[grizzled aspen]

It goes hard.

[misty nova]

Center Mass unyielding
Body flak

[placid fiber]

don't they have some exposed areas on the chest that still count as unyielding, at least?

[fleet zealot]

yea

[west trench]

the uppercut is a bit odd aiming at first, but is very spicy indeed

[fleet zealot]

the jacket isn't complete coverage

[grizzled aspen]

Pay close attention to your combos for mk2, you can reset your combo to horde clear by doing a PA.

[misty nova]

Well considering that you can accidentally hit the body when going up
I guess it's some sort of reward for being accurate or something

[west trench]

aim high

[grizzled aspen]

^

Aim high and you can catch enemies in the jaw.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-really-gtfoh-gif-13044903

[frozen trench]

Love the MK 2

[misty nova]

Min height zealots be like

[frozen trench]

The light chain fun af

[placid fiber]

Did you try using the flamer at a higher level so that only the head gets hit?

[west trench]

I used to run min height on my ginger zealot, lol

was a pain in the ass

[placid fiber]

Just curious

[zealous mesa]

I'm struggling with the psyker greatswords

[edgy plaza]

Sounds good, just started using heavy zealot weapons so all info I can use to benefit my team is welcome wen it comes to endgame modes

[grizzled aspen]

It's actually, funnily enough, very effective to do l1, l2, block cancel, repeat to fight multiple ragers at once.

[frozen trench]

YEAH

[zealous mesa]

They're pretty slow if you don't build hard into the right side tree for psyker

[grizzled aspen]

Those two lights are very fast.

[frozen trench]

the block is like

A frame input to reset the chain

So smooth

[misty nova]

We recommend getting Thy Wrath Be Swift for heavy weapons

[grizzled aspen]

Even funnier that doing that while charged is even safer because you'll stagger the ragers.

[frozen trench]

Idk how anyone can hate the mk2

[light badge]

wait wtf lol

[misty nova]

So you can't be stopped when setting heavies

[light badge]

isn't this a Veteran pose?

[grizzled aspen]

Brainlets like their infinite looping crowd control heavies.

[frozen trench]

I wonder if the 50% stagger on headshot would be worth for the first 2 lights

[zealous mesa]

It is

[grizzled aspen]

Doing h2, l3 loop is too hard.

[frozen trench]

SO TRUE

[fleet zealot]

eat die shit

[frozen trench]

what’s your fastest window into it?

[frosty herald]

fatshark needs to release this chest

[fleet zealot]

i like the single target combo for mk10

[placid fiber]

I was just curious, I didn't think it would change anything, I meant for the ragers

[frozen trench]

I find just L1, L2 into uppercut is my route

[grizzled aspen]

Isn't it h1, h2, l3, repeat?

[fleet zealot]

you can weave PA in as well i just forget where in my morning fog

but it's a lot of damage

for easy

shocked myself and my team with how quick i shredded a BoN

[frozen trench]

I like the mobility in the mk2 combos

[lean lark]

Just use for the drip if you want to wear cosmetics for yourself

[frozen trench]

The strong l1 and l2 feels like I can kite a lot

[fleet zealot]

but i'm also a brainlet who enjoys the h3-h4 infinite loop

[frozen trench]

While charging a overhead on the mk10 feels like a slugs pace

Slide moment

[lean lark]

yeah that one works good

You can stab heavy into that combo, which lets you unpowered kill a crusher

[grave nebula]

Huh?

[fleet zealot]

scab rager is now

but yes

crusher and scab rager are the only carapace enemies for the purposes of burn dot

[grave nebula]

oooh I see, I tested it for a bit and I loved the sound it makes when it's charged on and hits enemies. Thought it felt really weak against single target/carapace enemies... Much prefer the versatility of the Crusher still

[fleet zealot]

basically making penetratin flames ultra niche because most of flamers best paired melee weapons are already good at anti armor

(Chainaxe, thunderhammer)

[hard nexus]

knife

ds

[grave nebula]

oh as in they are the only two where their carapace armour reduces DoT damage as well?

[hard nexus]

yarp

[grizzled aspen]

Ok but why would I bother fighting a crusher unpowered when I can just charge it, pop fotf, and instakill him with the thrust?

[fleet zealot]

close quarters

no time to sprint

or space

[grizzled aspen]

Oh you would be wrong about that!

[fleet zealot]

or you need to cooldown

[grizzled aspen]

Sprint and heavy at the same time.

[hard nexus]

(splat)

[frosty herald]

Hey bandit

Do you know about greatsword slide

[grizzled aspen]

You will instantly level your sword at the crusher and poke him.

[grave nebula]

Wait is that mostly/only a Psyker thing or can Zealots do a Flamethrower build?

[west trench]

I need to get better at the joust

[fleet zealot]

i know the force greatsword has a slide

didn't notice anything on relic

[grizzled aspen]

Are you gonna be running havocs today?

[frosty herald]

The power greatsword can instantly go into the thrust from sliding

[fleet zealot]

zealot flamethrower is a great niche pick for melting packs of elites while they are in horde

[hard nexus]

probably

[grizzled aspen]

You don't even need to slide.

[fleet zealot]

as well as havinginfinite cleave

[grizzled aspen]

As soon as you sprint, press your heavy.

You will level the sword and thrust it.

[fleet zealot]

you have to take throwing knives to make up for it's weakness until deep havoc where throwing knives fall off tho

[fleet zealot]

i literally get h1

until my blade comes down

but maybe i'm stupid

[grizzled aspen]

Play around with it in the psykhanium, I'm not a liar.

[fleet zealot]

who knows

i opened darktide and instantly got the ick

[frozen trench]

The stab hurts bad ngl

[hard nexus]

yeah u are

[fleet zealot]

so i'm going to eat breakfast and go on a bike ride

[hard nexus]

frogs are infamously lairs

loarl

lauoy

lairs

liars

[fleet zealot]

but what if I want you to be

[frozen trench]

Leers

[fleet zealot]

meow has been bitten by stan

frog what if i want your sweet little lies

[grizzled aspen]

What's that supposed to mean? :3

[hard nexus]

put that colon three away.

[winter furnace]

you have to delay it a bit after sprinting

[light badge]

had an idea, what if this was capable of giving gold toughness?

[grizzled aspen]

Make me. :3

[frosty herald]

you are cooking

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-brigdet-she-ballin-tho-this-is-me-btw-if-u-even-care-colon-three-gif-18248741001878456630

[grave nebula]

are they just an even harder version of Auric missions?

[west trench]

slide goes into joust stab, but the timing window from earlier swings is a bit long

[hard nexus]

would make martyrdom zealot able to tactically go down

[winter furnace]

notably you have to wait until youre in the sprinting stance where your blade is pointed forwards fully

[fleet zealot]

starts at malice and scales up past auric damn twice

[winter furnace]

and then you heavy

[grave nebula]

ooh I see

[grizzled aspen]

Not exactly? I've only played two, there's a certain threshold for malice/heresy/damnation level threat missions.

My first havoc was rank 23.

[light badge]

like as a health reset?

or what?

[frozen trench]

Fuck, black ops 6 omni movement has spoiled me

Wish there was a strafe sprint for slides

Don’t matter if you dodge slide tho

[light badge]

rate the fit I'm rocking with bubble build

[frozen trench]

Not missing out on much

[hard nexus]

to generate golden toughness

[grizzled aspen]

Goes hard.

[violet hornet]

Turning into a werestan is one of my top fears

[lean lark]

If you're in lockout after clearing a mixed horde and just used up your fotf/see a gunner pack ahead of the crusher that needs fotf to reach unharmed and want to have heat available

[grave nebula]

Do I smell flirting

[lean lark]

both very plausible scenarios

[grizzled aspen]

I stopped reading after "if youre in lockout."

[grave nebula]

😭

[grizzled aspen]

Not going to even consider an opinion of someone that locks their sword.

[lean lark]

don't ask if you don't want answers then lol

actually socially inept

[grizzled aspen]

Takes half a second to turn it off and you can easily see your heat gauge with default ui.

[grizzled aspen]

It was a rhetorical question, you are the socially inept one.

[light badge]

also rate the bubble build

[frozen trench]

https://tenor.com/view/fd-gif-25482735

[grizzled aspen]

Hahnda, I hate it.

[light badge]

I haven't tried it yet, but I'm planning to use it as a more supportive build for hard havocs

[dense field]

It's a bubble alright

[grizzled aspen]

@rocky nacelle Drop your knowledge of bubble greatsword soyker.

[violet hornet]

Playing psyker for the first time in a month yesterday was a grim reminder of how much I suck at staying alive with psyker lol

[zealous mesa]

Without speed buffs the psi greatsword feels so slow

[grave nebula]

wth is the bubble butt build?

[zealous mesa]

I can't even block in time

[violet hornet]

Did like 800k damage at least

[grizzled aspen]

The problem I see here is fgs seems to be made with dd in mind.

[fleet zealot]

no

[violet hornet]

Didn't help I was using the covenant greatsword for the first time without first testing in the psykanium lol

[grizzled aspen]

You're gonna build me up like that and then break my heart? Cruel...

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[light badge]

I've been running it with WC on both my builds and it seems to do really well

base damage stronk

[grizzled aspen]

I see.

Mayhaps I need to play with it a bit more.

[light badge]

made a new sword

it was perfect

60 warp res

[grizzled aspen]

I would never use wc on a melee build.

[light badge]

and then hadron pulls a fast one on me

[grizzled aspen]

Pain.

[grave nebula]

too true brotha, too true

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0qc130R55Y

[grave nebula]

Didn't even know the game had red rarity

[grizzled aspen]

(it is all in jest, I genuinely do not care)

[fleet zealot]

blaze greatsword is amazing

[fleet zealot]

it doesn't

it's modded

[light badge]

it's a mod that shows weapons as red if they're at max stats

[zealous mesa]

I keep struggling on this sword

[grave nebula]

I know I know

[fleet zealot]

how?

[grave nebula]

oh I see lol

[zealous mesa]

it feels really slow and I can't even block in time against most enemies

Dodging feels like it runs out fast

[fleet zealot]

yea you need the 10% attack speed for sure

[grave nebula]

like one stat is max or it's the bis version of said weapon?

[grizzled aspen]

It's a greatsword, you aren't gonna have ds mobility.

[zealous mesa]

Even though it has a near instant deploy attack you can't whip it out on a dime

[light badge]

500 total rating

[grave nebula]

ooooh... how do you even get that btw

[zealous mesa]

I'm not comparing it to a duelling sword

Which I haven't used in a while

I'm comparing it to the one handed force swords

[light badge]

ya use these things

[grizzled aspen]

I'm giving a hypothetical, most soykers are not good at melee because ds crutch.

[zealous mesa]

I've always been an obscurus believer

I was saved in this update

[north sedge]

1h force swords also have quite good mobility

[grave nebula]

ooh does that empower thingy only show up when it's yellow rarity or am I just blind

[light badge]

might be an odd suggestion, but have you tried this node?

[flat iris]

thoughts on mk2 vs mk10 relic?

[zealous mesa]

No, but I have been considering it

[grizzled aspen]

Mk2 better.

[zealous mesa]

I've been using my staff as basically a suppression machine gun lately in this update

[light badge]

it's always there below the upgrade button, but you need to have maxed out mastery on the weapon family to be able to empower it up to 500 rating

[north sedge]

I've been surprised by this too because when i tried the psyker gs i was like "oh pretty nice movement for a 2h"

[grave nebula]

oooh I see

[zealous mesa]

The psi greatsword feels really cool

But I just get hit a lot

[trail grove]

Random

[zealous mesa]

I need to switch up the blessings or something

[trail grove]

But you can actually get Red weapons?

[zealous mesa]

The force push followup stab is satisfying

[zealous mesa]

No

[light badge]

nah

[trail grove]

Ah.

[light badge]

bots have them though

with 100% in all stats

[trail grove]

Just thought I am- ah.

Unrelated, but I can't help but feel like we're making a lot of relics for a bunch of rejects

Relics as in things that are holy and maybe related to a Saint.

[winged vessel]

only the zealot has one

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think "relic" refers to these blades being holy in any way.

[winged vessel]

dont ask him how he got it

[zealous mesa]

Ah yes the rare blessed bullet in a tiny coffin

[grizzled aspen]

I think it's just that they're really fuckin old swords.

[winged vessel]

actually
considering what the zealots say

every now and then

they are probably actual members of the ecclesiarchy

so theyre kinda important

[zealous mesa]

The dubiously sourced skeletal hand of a saint

[grave nebula]

What are the best general purpose blessings for relic sword?

[winged vessel]

cranial and rampage

[north sedge]

Don't forget the whole fiction is that we're basically finding this shit lying around and fixing it up

[fleet zealot]

cranial rampage

[zealous mesa]

Woah woah

You can't do that

[winged vessel]

who tf left a holy relic capable of exuding a saint's power on the floor

[zealous mesa]

You take it to hadron or they execute you

[grizzled aspen]

For non havoc
IJ wants cranial rampage
Piety wants cranial or heatsink rampage

For havok, use cranial wrath

[zealous mesa]

emperor forbid you tighten a screw on the reciever

Or something

[grave nebula]

Not Heatsink or Energy Leakage?

[grizzled aspen]

Energy leakage is a trap blessing.

It rewards high heat, and you don't want to have high heat.

[winged vessel]

energy leakage is bait

[north sedge]

Rampage is just straight better and is always available

[winged vessel]

and heat sink is only active for 5 seconds

[hard nexus]

im leaking ….

[grizzled aspen]

🤨

[winged vessel]

clearly a sign of nurgle corruption

[winter furnace]

hi leaking

[winged vessel]

time for you to die

[fleet zealot]

heatsink is weird that it only gives full value during lockout

[zealous mesa]

I used to take all or nothing on tac axe zealot and push attack a ton

[fleet zealot]

energy leakage is just worse rampage

[grizzled aspen]

No?

[fleet zealot]

OK ARCO FUCKING TOLD ME

I'M DONE

TAKE YOUR HEATSINK

[grizzled aspen]

Arco is dumb lmao.

That's not what it does.

[fleet zealot]

fatshark is fucking lying to all of us

[grizzled aspen]

Energy leakage, yes.

[fleet zealot]

and piting us against eachother

[grizzled aspen]

Heatsink, no.

[winged vessel]

just take cranial and rampage like a good boy

[grizzled aspen]

Heatsink is less heat gen on weakspot or crits.

[frozen glen]

i agree arco is stupid

[fleet zealot]

no?

[winter furnace]

i have 0 idea what gun to run on my zealot

[fleet zealot]

it's dissipation

[frozen glen]

stupid dumb dumb psyker main thinks he knows zealot weapons

[winged vessel]

bolter

[frozen glen]

fuck arcotash!

[winged vessel]

thats all u need

bolter

[fleet zealot]

heatsink is openly dissapation, it has a buff and everything

[frozen glen]

@south folio you SUCK

[grizzled aspen]

Ok then it's dissipation, but the activation is what I said.

[north sedge]

Leakage is just Unstable Power but on a non psyker weapon

[winter furnace]

i mean it works but it's really slow

i hate how slow it is raaahh

[grizzled aspen]

Heatsink is funny on piety.

[fleet zealot]

and if it's not i'm going to jam fatshark's offices

WITH JALEPENO STRAWBERRY

[grizzled aspen]

I kept my sword running for over a full minute with cranial and heatsink.

[grave nebula]

Wouldn't the trick be to stay at high heat, "on the edge" so to say without going over?

[fleet zealot]

you don't need piety (even tho i'm running stalwart piety)

[grave nebula]

oooh damn, that sounds fun to me tbh

[fleet zealot]

no

doesn't work like that in real gameplay, you can't manually vent heat

[grave nebula]

I've always run piety instead of IJ

[grizzled aspen]

Yes but that adds more stress to the already most stressful class because we are the ones having to frontline vs 1shot elites.

[fleet zealot]

you just need to cancel ti yourself when it is almost close to avoid lockout

[grave nebula]

oh I see yeah, I guess you just don't have enough enemies to hit always to stay like that

[fleet zealot]

but heatsink is weakspot which on both swords is easy asf to get

[grizzled aspen]

Lord knows I can't trust an ogryn to have my back in melee.

[grave nebula]

Would you say Zealot is harder than Psyker?

[grizzled aspen]

And crits. :3

[stray talon]

What stat is best to dump on crushers? Defenses?

[grizzled aspen]

If you suck at melee, yes.

[fleet zealot]

even with both dissipation blessings or cranial+dissipation you can't go into negative charge gain

[grizzled aspen]

What's why we have training wheel talents like twbs.

[fleet zealot]

doesn't matter

if you are already weakspotting

honestly

[grave nebula]

Does that mean like on 95% of enemies just their head? Like you wanna always cleave their heads off, and then some bosses have their unique weakspots

[grizzled aspen]

Erm, shit yourself?

[fleet zealot]

"and crits" yes

[grizzled aspen]

The only enemy that has a weakspot that isn't it's head is burgle.

[fleet zealot]

that's like saying you are taking BM for the weakspot damage

[grizzled aspen]

So yes, aiming for the face is massive value, even moreso with heatsink.

[hard nexus]

everything except burgles are headshots for weakspot

[fleet zealot]

99% of the time, you are getting weakspot kills for heatsink

[grave nebula]

what if you go with Heatsink + Cranial with Piety?

[grizzled aspen]

Especially now that scab ragers have carapace chests.

[grave nebula]

would that work

[grizzled aspen]

Shitters cannot fight them.

[light badge]

found another reason why FGS is my favorite melee

[fleet zealot]

meh

you can

[grizzled aspen]

It's so funny.

[fleet zealot]

rampage is just, really good

[light badge]

it can hit heretic idols without having line of sight on them

[hard nexus]

crusher one shot?

ohg

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

Does not work in havoc, you NEED wrath.

[fleet zealot]

it's not hard to manually toggle charge and rampage gives power outside of charge which is pretty helpful

[grizzled aspen]

So can ds or fs...

[light badge]

yeah but not at significant range

[grave nebula]

oh I see

[light badge]

the wave goes through walls, so you can literally just blindguess where the idol is based on the sound

[hard nexus]

i wonder if FS push attack can get an idol

[light badge]

it cannot, unfortunately

[grave nebula]

Why do you need wrath on Havoc specifically? also with Piety you would go Heatsink + wrath, while IJ you would go Cranial + wrath?

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/yuuko-nichijou-despair-failure-anime-gif-3416368340442135512

it’s so over

[grave nebula]

also what about without Havoc? Cause I dunno how much I need the extra damage for 3secs from rampage in AoE situations, mostly need damage for big bois

[fleet zealot]

hit mass scales up rapidly

[fleet zealot]

it's strength tooltip is wrong

not damage

[obtuse solstice]

seeing a lot of invis in havoc, is it the play

[fleet zealot]

bruisers get up to 12 hitmass in havoc

[fleet zealot]

no

fotf or chorus

[grizzled aspen]

Enemies have super juiced hitmass in havoc, especially so with the moebian 21st modifier (all chaff is basically scab bruisers). Pick your poison on heatsink or cranial if you're running piety, I doubt it matters that much, but I would run cranial for IJ.

[grave nebula]

I am guessing you get the most amount of upkeep, but less damage for bursty moments?

[grave nebula]

Wait that scales with difficulty? WTF

[fleet zealot]

more so you don't need that much upkeep

i've been playing with wrath rampage

and just been saving charge for when it's needed

[hard nexus]

only on havoc

[fleet zealot]

since you block while using special

[grave nebula]

Is Wrath outside of Havoc (even in Auric) kinda useless then/You got better options?

[grave nebula]

OOOOH I see

[fleet zealot]

possibly

outside of havoc i'd go rampage cranial

[grizzled aspen]

Basically, scab bruisers in havoc can have close to 12 hitmass in havoc. For reference, a scab rager in damnation aurics has a little over 10.

[fleet zealot]

most consistent damage and upkeep

[grave nebula]

wait so what does Strength do then?

[fleet zealot]

not being weird like how heatsink is

[fleet zealot]

it's just renamed power

[grizzled aspen]

Damage, stagger, and cleave, all wrapped up into 1 stat.

[obtuse solstice]

might have to try out chorus

[fleet zealot]

stealth i feel is too selfish for havoc

you need to play as a team, relying on crutching to carry is a bad recipe

[grave nebula]

around what kind of Critical chance % are we looking at when going with the relic build and a Piety build?

[grave nebula]

oooh

[fleet zealot]

i just get crit chance from stalwart piety

not going to lie

[winter furnace]

what if piety purg flamer

[fleet zealot]

scourge isn't even used, throwing knives fall off in later havocs so you go immo nades

[grave nebula]

I've never liked overheating mechanics in any game ever, but really happy they went this way with it, instead of the "activate it again after every 3 attacks" Veteran way

[fleet zealot]

plus the sword kills so much you can barely stack scourge

[grave nebula]

The activation animation counts as constantly blocking?

[winter furnace]

yeah

[fleet zealot]

yea

it's like mk6 power sword

[obtuse solstice]

anywhere I can read about high havoc strats?

[gleaming kelp]

Does anything else do that or just the swords?

[fleet zealot]

not really

here basically

[grave nebula]

Even with piety it's more consistant than Heatsink Rampage?

[fleet zealot]

yes

[grave nebula]

well is that not just damage or how does it work?

[burnt folio]

So, my mask says it changes player voice but there's no noticeable difference

[fleet zealot]

it gives weakspot damage and heat resistance

[grave nebula]

OOOOOH

[fleet zealot]

damage cleave stagger

[fleet zealot]

you can preview it in the inspect menu, but otherwise, check your settings

there is a setting that turns off mask effects

[obtuse solstice]

piety or ij?

[fleet zealot]

stalwart piety is what i've been using, but IJ is also good for the dodge buffs

martyrdom really gets bit in the ass

with no cdr

i tried doing a 21 with it, cleared it but it felt like ass waiting for my ability

[burnt folio]

When I inspect there isnt a way to preview the voice that im seeing
And the setting is on

Nvm found it

Weird, just doesn't sound very modified in game

Oh well

[fleet zealot]

is it a free mask?

[light badge]

Whichever dev it was who decided you can staggerlock reapers with the FGS has my eternal gratitude

[fleet zealot]

then yea, it's just a muffle

it's not like the paid head pieces like scion helm or speaker replacing your jaw

[grave nebula]

so Heatsink makes your heat go down a bit, but Cranial just makes it not go up so fast?

also "chained weakspot hit" does that mean that you get a stack of it when you hit 2 times in a row and both hit a weakspot?

Do you lose the stacks if you don't hit a weakspot or only when the duration ends?

[rocky nacelle]

Good for bubble spam but I hate it, it sucks

[fleet zealot]

yes, idk i'm tired, idk i'm tired

i just have high cranial uptime

[grave nebula]

also Rampage has enough of all of that until Havoc where it scales too much and you need the Wrath cleave focus to be able to hit more than 1-2 targets lol?

Sorry for my questions, they might be dumb, never really got in to the late game

[fleet zealot]

yep, then it's wrath rampage or wrath cranial

[burnt folio]

Ahhhh, gotchya
Don't remember the helm just remember a zealot sound really cool when using Chorus

[light badge]

Elaborate pls

[rocky nacelle]

I (me personally) hate the build, but this is good for bubble spam

[grave nebula]

with IJ do you need to constantly position yourself to hit the backs of enemies or does it just happen kinda "automatically"?

[rocky nacelle]

not much to get

[hushed knoll]

So when are we all switching to vet

[rocky nacelle]

I’ll post what I’m running for bubble in a sec

[light badge]

I'm just curious about the hate part

Like what fuels the hate

[rocky nacelle]

psykinetics aura is a plague on the psyker player base

[winter furnace]

i hate boltguns handling so much argghghh

rage

[rocky nacelle]

and makes pathing look like dog shit

[light badge]

I actually dropped it

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

[light badge]

Taking a bath rn but I'll post new build after

[rocky nacelle]

I’ll post what I run for bubble

when havoc gets real aids maybe I’ll go warp charges for dirty double bubble

[merry flume]

stench

[light badge]

Psykinetic's Aura just doesn't feel that impactful for me

The exception being Hunting Grounds

Nuking hound swarms with shriek will never not be funny to me

[light badge]

Stench removal

[rocky nacelle]

I didn’t think the build was bad

[light badge]

psyker soup

[devout flicker]

idk what perks or blessings to put on this

[rocky nacelle]

it’s actually perfect for bubble spam against shooters in havoc

I just hate what psykinetics aura has done to psyker player base and I’m not a fan of WCs

[winter furnace]

how do you make boltgun not feel horrid to use or is that just the price for using it

[light badge]

Fair enough

I like WC cuz I was a Quickening user back before p13 lol

[rocky nacelle]

Some soykers would pick psykinetics aura over their first born child it’s “that important” to builds

or yknow just use abilities in a timely appropriate fashion, but can’t have that now can we

not when we can just turn the game off spam F every 5 seconds lmfao

I also hate psykinetics aura cause balance wise

but all cdr in this game is stupid besides martyrs purpose

so

[winter furnace]

raaaghh

[light badge]

Nooo you don't understand I NEED to spam Shriek every 0.948 nanoseconds or my dps tanks!!!!!

[rocky nacelle]

turning the game off for everyone

super fun

https://tenor.com/view/now-that-i-think-about-it-guy-with-lightning-now-that-i-think-about-it-that-black-guy-with-the-lightning-makes-a-good-point-gif-24607318

[gleaming furnace]

Cost of doing business

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-baby-gif-3114624433586884898

Psykers when no Pysk Aura

[light badge]

Also I find the argument that it's better for support to just be kinda silly

[winter furnace]

screams and explodes into zealot flavored sludge

[light badge]

Every class has their absurd CDR they can spec into

[winter furnace]

i hate darktide so much....... ( i like darktide )

[light badge]

It's not my job to fund your Chorus that you popped in the middle of a poxxer horde

[frosty herald]

Did you see my psyker build?

[twilit lodge]

🫵

[winter furnace]

hi cookie

[twilit lodge]

Hey what's up

[rocky nacelle]

@light badge

heres my FGS/Voidstrike build

[winter furnace]

she was forced to use boltgun zealot for 5 seconds

epic

[rocky nacelle]

this is what I use to "actually try" in havocs

[frosty herald]

Im being ignored...

[winter furnace]

im sorrgy

[light badge]

Why not Perfectionism if you're taking the weakspot node?

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/o-adeus-de-vegeta-gif-3948180127667932216

[rocky nacelle]

yes im going to kill myself to max my stacks in havoc

by chasing the funny blue man

[grave nebula]

Is IJ or Piety better for CDR nowadays?

[light badge]

Fair point

[rocky nacelle]

perfectionism sucks and having longer time before stack decay is better

[light badge]

Don't let Higui hear you

[rocky nacelle]

me and higui have been waiting to make an actual perfectionist build for a while

you're out of the loop lil noob sibling

a reason to make it still hasnt dropped yet

[polar nexus]

With a Crit weapon, piety

[rocky nacelle]

I use that build with this

[polar nexus]

Bolter is very fine. Learn ads cancel, reload cancel, throwing knife cancel and take dance of death

Ez pz

[rocky nacelle]

you forgot sprint cancel (unless that falls under reload cancel)

(technically it does)

[polar nexus]

(yes)

[rocky nacelle]

@light badge also I was testing this earlier

[grave nebula]

Is "Thy Wrath be Swift" "enemy melee attacks cannot stun you" all that useful?

[jagged cradle]

You should carry me through havoc

[tame sluice]

what if I just do none of these things and simply accept the inconvenience

[polar nexus]

You'll be fine

[rocky nacelle]

@light badge

no red stimm (but max warp rider/perfect timing/scrier stacks/DD stacks/unstable power)

[polar nexus]

Don't worry

[grave nebula]

which weapons would count for this? I am guessing Crusher is kinda shiet for that, Relic sword maybe decent?

[rocky nacelle]

exact same setup as the image I just posted but w/ a red stimm

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balance-perfect-gif-25200656

[rocky nacelle]

if I was zealot maybe

im playing soyker

[grave nebula]

"succesful Dodge" does that mean just dodging or that you have to evade an enemy's attack with said dodge?

[rocky nacelle]

you hear a whoosh sound effect

when you "successful" dodge

[grave nebula]

so guessing you need to dodge and enemy attack with it

[polar nexus]

Very wooshy

[rocky nacelle]

(or so they say I cant hear that shit over my music blasting)

but there is an indicator for successful dodges yes

[rocky nacelle]

ye

you'll hear a whoosh and see a buff icon pop up somewhere on your hud

[hard nexus]

huh

[honest burrow]

Last night I had a Zealot solo clutch Auric Damnation HITSG, it took a long time for him to finally clear everything that kept spawning, but on his way to revive us he was shit talking us in voice chat AND bragging in toxic ways. No one responded to him, but right before he was about to revive us, a few feet from us, while still talking, he fell off the ledge and we all queued up our mics to burst out laughing and he instantly alt f4'd.

Man, I get he's desperate for attention, and he sounded young 18+ at least + it seemed he was raised by the internet based on his vocabulary, but we would have compliment him and given him his validation if he would have just shut up lmfaoo. We did compliment him, AFTER he left and we were talking about how good his clutch was.

[rocky nacelle]

cause replying to a random msg with huh is going to immediately key me in on what to talk about

[hard nexus]

what do you mean

a reason to make it

hasn’t dropped yet

[rocky nacelle]

perfectionism sucks

[hard nexus]

that was pretty clear from the message i replied to

[rocky nacelle]

why take it over 15 seconds of DD

[hard nexus]

yah ik but ur message makes it seem like ur expecting something to change

in order to make perfectionism

[rocky nacelle]

there is no reason to take perfectionism over 15 seconds of DD

therefore

there "is no reason" to build it

a reason hasnt dropped yet

[hard nexus]

i shmee

[winged vessel]

is this build for the faint of heart or not

[rocky nacelle]

ur a headache sometimes

🙄

[hard nexus]

not my fault

[rocky nacelle]

I started using it at havoc 21+ so maybe idk

you actually kinda have to counter gunners its a shocker

since they dont get 1 tapped as easily anymore

(any of the gunners, like stalkers etc)

[grave nebula]

Oh wait the "Thy wrath be swift" talent makes your attacks uninterruptible 24/7, okay I am so taking that instead of moar melee damage

[winged vessel]

grunt shooters are a whole menace in havoc

[lean lark]

just use the og psyker blitz brainburst

[winged vessel]

a bigger deal than half the elites

[obtuse solstice]

Are hp curios better in havoc? tough gets deleted instantly anyway

[fleet zealot]

i still take toughness

[rocky nacelle]

are you just spouting dog shit on purpose?

[hard nexus]

toughness and hp both get deleted

[rocky nacelle]

or

[grizzled aspen]

20% because 5% inherent and I run stalwart due to lack of points. Scourge can bring you up to 50% if you can manage to get it to proc while unpowered.

[lean lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-fortnite-reaction-ninja-low-taper-fade-gif-1784137995500051652

[grizzled aspen]

That guy advocates for a toughness blessing in havoc.

[rocky nacelle]

shut up frog im not talking to you right now

[grizzled aspen]

Do not expect anything out of his mouth to be remotely coherent.

[grave nebula]

What would qualify as even a decent "crit weapon" then?

[grizzled aspen]

I'm agreeing with you, shithead.

Smh.

[hard nexus]

anything that has a crit blessing

[rocky nacelle]

cause it really seems you are just created to say dog shit takes

maybe thats why you rejoined the server

lmfao

[grave nebula]

what's Scourge?

[grizzled aspen]

The bleed talent on the right at the top.

[lean lark]

dont knock it until you try it

[hard nexus]

second talent, right side of talent tree

[delicate vine]

The talent to add bleed on crits and then up crit chance when hitting bleed

[grizzled aspen]

Crits make targets bleed, melee attacks on bleeding targets grant a stack of 10% crit chance, stacking 3 times.

It's very good.

[rocky nacelle]

ill try "it" when you recommend anything remotely good

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749799445478244393/1265479387571159182/crackbert.gif

[rocky nacelle]

or coherent

lmfao

until then guess im doing my own thing

[grizzled aspen]

Average dawn priest clowning.

Happens every update.

[hard nexus]

trying my “it”

and by it? let’s just say

my brain rupture

[grizzled aspen]

The rot consumes...

[rocky nacelle]

oh wait im dead to 5 gunners because brain burst could only half HP 1 of them

instead of assail stun locking them

🤪

welcome to havoc shit head

[grave nebula]

blazing when active would give you 25% crit chance right?

and it's almost alwyas active

[fleet zealot]

yea I wouldn't take BR into havoc if yi was paid

[grizzled aspen]

15% because I run stalwart.

[fleet zealot]

only going right subnodes

stalwart is better and you get infinite uptime with the enemy density anyways

especially cause you won't have crit damage reduction

[polar nexus]

A good rule of thumb is a weapon with a crit bonus (always), or a finesse modifier and Crit blessings

[fleet zealot]

and might even skip benediction depending on modifiers and team and run beacon

making stalwart even more needed

[hard nexus]

not always better

[hard nexus]

in that circumstance yes

but if u can take enduring faith

then you don’t really need stalwart

[grave nebula]

Imagine supporting your team by going to the left side of piety

[polar nexus]

But not all of finesse weapons are Crit weapons. Like combat axe or even evis tbh

[rocky nacelle]

stalwart isnt for your team

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis is a crit weapon

[sullen forge]

ermmm you dont need someone who dedicates themselves to certain roles cause FOTF Can just do that idiot

so shut up...

[rocky nacelle]

tanner should get in a car crash

I think...

oops did I say that out loud

[sullen forge]

Me thinks also...

[sullen forge]

Oops

[grave nebula]

What would reduce your crit damage? also what is the base crit damage bonus?

[hard nexus]

from those games as being DS4 DPS, playing dps is the easiest role in havoc premades

[rocky nacelle]

man what I wouldnt give

to see tanner shit himself

attempting a GM nightfall

[fleet zealot]

what? crit damage reduction talent from the path to throwing knives

[rocky nacelle]

"I have to actually counter build??!?!? "

"game sucks"

[sullen forge]

Generalist build

or washed game

[fleet zealot]

it's not about support it's about durability for self

[hard nexus]

every now and again i get tempted to play destiny 2

[rocky nacelle]

yep yep i made your life easy

[hard nexus]

and then i snap back to reality

[grave nebula]

Crit bonus is indicated in the finesse stats, right?

[rocky nacelle]

by saying you just be our DPS

[hard nexus]

i wouldn’t have minded playing chorus or psyker

[rocky nacelle]

nah ive been playing psyker this entire time

[sullen forge]

@rocky nacelle Got damage mogged shitter

[rocky nacelle]

its all good

[sullen forge]

never talk again

[fleet zealot]

i mean, with crit aura psyker and stalwart shared crit, it isn't completely shit in havoc

[rocky nacelle]

what

[hard nexus]

i wanna play something other than dps next time tbh

[grave nebula]

I usually tend to not run crit weapons tbh, but I think I still prefer Piety

[rocky nacelle]

if you want me to be an actual elitist loser nerd for 2 seconds gale

meow got top dmg first game

I was 2nd

then I got top dmg 2nd game

[polar nexus]

It's also a modifier

[rocky nacelle]

lmfao

[sullen forge]

Not playing DPS and dont have higher damage 🚬

Shitter.........

[rocky nacelle]

but i did top dmg in the 2nd game

cause psyker moment

[hard nexus]

true!

[sullen forge]

Didn't do #1

[grave nebula]

oooh you mean toughness damage reduction with Crit, I see

[sullen forge]

you're WASHED

[rocky nacelle]

i was actually pretty close to meow in the first game

but my ass is not running ahead on gloriana havoc

as psyker

lmfao

[hard nexus]

i think it was like 100k behind

or 50k

[rocky nacelle]

I almost fucking died in the first event

just by existing

not even pushing

[sullen forge]

I'll be dead fucking serious

[rocky nacelle]

cause havoc gunners

[hard nexus]

real

[rocky nacelle]

cica my pookie saved me with relic

😇

[sullen forge]

I dont give a fuck about Damage or "who mogged who" in Havoc

[grave nebula]

are you going sustained assault instead of Toughness damage reduction with crit, or what?

[sullen forge]

I care if no one goes down

[hard nexus]

yah me neither

[rocky nacelle]

if you care about top dmg in havoc

you shouldnt be playing havoc

ima be real

lmfao

[hard nexus]

havoc is the only mode where what really matters is actually just making it through

aurics yah u can ego all you want

[sullen forge]

You're just bad lil bro........ thats why you're saying that.......

[rocky nacelle]

thats like trying to do a zombies easter egg and worrying about getting top zombie kills/crit spots

what are u even here for

[light badge]

So with all this setup, do you think a crit wave would oneshot?

[obtuse solstice]

is this good for relic blade

[rocky nacelle]

same setup with red stimm

[sullen forge]

Oh we ran a few havocs last night

Duo havocs

[rocky nacelle]

but a crit poccing on the wave

would probably kill them

[sullen forge]

We learned like

Soulblaze and Infernus have like

really good value against Pus Gunners/Reapers

[rocky nacelle]

go for it im gonna keep playing bubble cause im not gonna lie

I wanna be the dedicated ranged counter/wizard

[hard nexus]

don’t trust others

[rocky nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard nexus]

ah

fair

[rocky nacelle]

bubble my beloped

finally returning in 1000% glory

cause havoc gunners

[hard nexus]

yah i thought DoTs wouldn’t be decreased

[rocky nacelle]

also if you guys forgot

[sullen forge]

Absolutely consider Soulblaze from Combustion and wildfire

[rocky nacelle]

(I said this to you guys last night meow)

[sullen forge]

cause FUCK PUS AFFLICTED ENEMIES

[rocky nacelle]

but havoc spawns are progression based

dont forget

[hard nexus]

progress

[sullen forge]

THEY WILL BOIL FROM DOT

[hard nexus]

yah

[rocky nacelle]

im glad they did it like that ngl

[hard nexus]

i’ve gotten in the habit

[rocky nacelle]

its nice to make space

[hard nexus]

idk if it’s a bad habit

of using tknives to pull aggro

on enemies up ahead

like crushers

[rocky nacelle]

just let me aggro it

[sullen forge]

Yeah they dont so like Puncture, Infernus, Blazing Spirit, Etc

[hard nexus]

and bulwarks

[rocky nacelle]

I did that last night to 1 shot 3 crushers

with voidstrike

lmfao