#zealot-class
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21+ is
Whatever the fuck we played then
So what's 30 then
Is I guess Damnation premium
Why's it a big difficulty spike
1-10 is malice
11-20 is heresy
21+ is damnation
because tons of modifiers kick in at 21+
Pardon me, I need to test something. Will someone please peep the Party Finder and look for a lone Zealot named Melisandor? I need to know if the PF is just broken for me or not
tbh theres not really a spike at 30 onward
I'm excited to try 20-30 cause 16-20 was seriously unimpressive although the floor corruption was pretty oppressive
it kinda just steadily gets harder froim there
Oh I just got a request
Nothing happened when I accepted it though
Damn that sounds intense
I stand with Aquila when the general consensus is most people will plateu at havoc 25
cause the shit we just went through at 30
Was fucking awful
I'm interested to see how hard 20-25 is because of how easy 20 and lower were
@spare talon Look at this
I'm having allt of success with the mk13 chainsword
Whomst ever this person is
what about it
What's "tension"?
They've got the SAUCE
ogryn racism
I'm sure there's god tier Ogs in the high 30s
But I doubt any of them are in here
It looks kinda clean ngl
Hey fellas is meatball a fruit
It's a vegetable.
If it has raisins in it yes
Raisins or any kind of dried currant
I die a little when people mispell lose
The education system has failed it's youth
Nah I just forgot the ?
Their their... it will be ok
their grammar is a little loose, its okay, they lose it sometimes
Thoughts on Crusher blessings? I saw there's a pinned guide, but it predates unlocked and loaded, which added some significant new options blessing-wise (e.g. slaughterer) and it's not clear how bad it is to lose the impact blessings in terms of hitting stagger breakpoints
I hate all of you
Slaught skullcrusher
40% power will almost never not be worth it
there is only one Darktide weapon idk what y’all r on
there are no darktide weapons
so what do we think of the new power sword? I've been outta the loop
There is no darktide
it's good
You're actually playing Skyrim
It’s pretty solid, not my fav tho
There is no fatshark
This was Todd's plan
not meta but it's good, has alright skill expression
busted horde clear
but slow to move
which mark are people liking?
II by far
gonna try both obv, just wondering where opinion is settling
Mk2 but total preference.
complete preference
(I as in eye)

i
Oh no..
It's him..

Stay away from my havoc 30s
awesome, thanks for the summary all ❤️
ok sir
no more clutches for you
Losses aren't real
I crease your Js good sir
Get to it
because its fun to play it without that
oh, accepted dump state for the relic blade?
mobility
Mobility


Considering switching off smokes for krak
But I feel as if
I wil regret this
Instantly
Me personally I’ve been using nrg leakage and cranial grounding and it’s peak
did you join one of those
is this worth the melk bucks? I have no idea what power output does
I’m a little confused
damage from charged attacks
Save up and get your absolute god roll from gambling
you can click inspect and hover over the stats to see what exactly they do
Probably want mobility dump stat as usual
okay kinda figured it's a pass, tempting though since Brunt refuses to give me any relic blades
Can’t you just buy them
Yeah
I rolled the perfect thunder hammer
Relic Blade actually fucks
Weirdo !
1 shot BP on everything

Kinda
Shred + wrath does same with higher adms
You need dash for crushers
But muh bleed stacks
Relic Blade is like the Crusher but cooler
No
Both of the greatswords are super fucking good
well
Bleed stacks is for losers !!
Really good
Yes
Take it back D:
Bleed is for big gamers
You must not be a big enough gamer to understand
@spare talon
also I've never really played combat knife zealot before but I'm finding myself struggling with reapers/bulwarks which usually aren't an issue
Get at it
I myself am a massive gamer
Try uncanny + precog w Unyeilding and crit
V nice
yeah, probably just need better perks, I'm using a level 500 with good dump stats but I haven't leveled up combat blade so I don't have the good blessings unlocked
StatS?
but I'm just getting slaughtered by reapers slowly turning to me while I dance around them
low mobility
Wait a minute
I remember you

Idk, at first getting perfect rolls can be difficult but as time goes on and you get more resources you should be chill
Let's kill this guy chat
Dude I literally could not care less
Yeah, I'm trying to fill out my collection on all four characters so I'm spending most of my money just grabbing up any good stat distribution weapons at Brunt's
That’s real
With the event going on you should be able to get a decent amount of shit
command chavo
You know about rolling in brunt’s armory, right?
I've got most of my zealot melee covered at least
Yeah I just avoid the random purchases since I'm tight on money

I’d try to focus on one weapon family at a time, one you already kinda decent at
Nade
That way you can farm shit with that weapon
Yeah I took a break for a while
I'm only upgrading one at a time, but just trying to build an inventory of one for each
🤨
Fair
Hard to belive ik bro 💀
Cuz I was already elite when I left
😎
and swapping weapons once I get to mastery 20 so I don't waste the xp yet
Nah but fr
uhuh...
@sullen forge my voidstrike has 47.5% crit chance lol
Trust me tho brody it’s just worth it to get a perfect roll
imagine it on an unbound scrier's build
absolute cancer
Nade
I’m litteraly providence from ROR2
You wanna do some aurics with me tonight?
Yeah, the itemization update is a game changer since I can just pick a weapon and work towards so long as I can get a base with good dump stats I can make it into a perfect one over time

I got like an hour but sure
ironically I've got plenty of plasteel and diamantine but basically no money since I've always hoarded the former
Wait who were u before
I'm not home for hours
Inb4 total Lumii sweep.
I have school bro u know this
Why would I not sweep nade
This is not an accomplishment
I want to see if he's better
He is likely not.
I’m not saying I’m like John Darktide
peak autopistol
But I’ve cleared some auric maelstorms and am havoc 17
So I’m not the worst
Anymore
havoc 16-20 is heresy btw
Could u not clear them b4?
wtf no lol
Why not
shitilcave
Bc I was shit
only difference is the constant corruption from infected enemies
And now I’m less shit
don't stand in gloop without a beacon zealot
For sure
I'm deathly curious
Link or what
Kk 1 min
and half the elites and specials having 2x the health 😔
Hollup
aw what a cute HOLY SHIT WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
Is it more efficient to upgrade weapons as high as possible before sacrificing them for mastery or just bumping more of them to green?
they could never fix the rending node and I'll still pick it over empyric resolve
I hope er was a psy-op to prank psykers into getting killed in havoc even quicker
the mass is worse than the health
bruisers and 21st
get so much mass
Just green
i find health worse, i usually have enough cleave to manage 21st hordes
2h blades feel really good in 3rd person ngl
cool, coolcoolcool
nah, you can brute force through health unless you are stuck with BM or somethin
doesnt help that my main dome psyker build uses BB
once you realize it, it makes it much easier to deal with
the mass basically forces you to take wrath and shit
or just play ogryn
then you die because your feet are too big
steppin in the poo puddles
@remote lark
just get a beacon zealot 
That is why we summon our Zealot friend with corruption resistance aura
Thanks lil un
besides like, one narrow part of the map none of my team had goo puddle problems
there was one, we lost a vet to it
and that's basically it
so what blessings are you guys running with the relic blade
and it was gas+puddles
Ur perks and blessings are wrong
But otherwise it's usable
Curios bad too
cranial+rampage->>>> swap one of them into wrath in high havoc
heatsink only works while you aren't activated
so it's not good or something
idk ask arco
it still means more uptime tho
right?
no not really
Blessings and perks are debatable, but my curios are peak
it's not as effective as the tooltip leads you to believe
What would you advise on curios then
Shatter for brittleness let's puncture deal crazy damage to tough enemies which is why u take it
Please fucking take crit off of your knife
Weak spot damage is useless cause of its stacking and hits no bps
no they aren't
No they arent
you are going from 200% ability regen to 212% ability regen
Your blessings and perks are trash
i just tested this and its wrong
congrats
Okay, what would you take instead
you saved less than 0.2 seconds
I like having faster uptime
it's not tho
heatsink 100% works while powered up
you already get 100% uptime on fotf buff
then DIE
what do you want me to do argue with you
this isn't mock trial
Take riposte/precog on knife, flak/maniac or flak/uny
Take puncture/shatter on bolter with something like maniac,uny or carapace uny
Take 3x gunner res, 2x stamina regen, 1x sniper res, 3x toughness
That is how u fix ur shit
I don’t need gunner resist, gunners aren’t a problem to me bro
Stop playing on malice then
Alrighty bro
I’m not doing this again this time
I’m just here to chill, I know I’m good
Okay
I don't want you to grief my winrate
Chillin
So how’s the shock maul on zealot
if you aren't in the lock out state, it's at reduced efficiency
Solid
mid but you can make it work
Mid
still means more uptime and more forgiving weapon
Probably zealots most mid weapon
gunners are the only thing that chips you in high diffs
and like, besides that
Cool cool
why tf do you have 2x stam and 1x block
How about uh… chainaxe?
rampage and wrath buff your weapon when not activated to not instantly make you shit
good but a bit of a niche choice
Nade plays on malice it doesn't apply to him.
Sure
oh that's nade
🙄

Stamina regen bc stamina and speed r life, block efficiency bc I push block a lot and sometimes I get chipped by shit and it eats my stamina
Niche how
"Actually I think perks are debatable and my curio are peak.."
why don't you just go 3x stam regen
Weak spot dmg on bolter
That’s valid
No stam regencon knife
mk12 is pretty straightforward simple but mk4 scares people
I might try it out
Takes ability regen instead of gunner res
ability regen with invocation
Because I’m not a shitter that can’t press B to slide
literally the biggest diminishing return to ever diminish returns
Console slander incoming
console player 
Is there a way to fix the stats on weapons btw or do you just need to buy new weapons into you get one with the perfect stats
Gunners even with good movement cause alot of chip damage and toughness shred
On havoc it's mandatory
Second wind
On dannation it's mandatory
unfortunately in melee combat will chip you, it's basically the only resistance worth a damn
What if he's a PC player who bound slide to B?
Wait, what if he's a console player who uses mouse and keyboard and bound slide to B?
Whats your havoc rank
put precog on relic
you still get chipped
c"
I don’t no life this game bro I have life outside of Darktide I’m not havoc 40 yet bro
ehh, idk, 1.7 finesse ratio.
But whateva
One day nade will learn u also have limited dodges and also can't slide out of everything
knife and duelist sword have 3.0 ish or something and use precog
idk if relic would use it
oh its only 1.7?
malice console player comes in, knowing the meta for sure
i cri
0.7 uncharged
One day para will learn how to spot ragebait
it's pretty brutal
damn..
But whateva
neither of us are para
lol?
true 😔
True indeed
So real
i love how the mk4ds is still just the best weapon in the game by far and they wont nerf it 😭
Dueling swords are for shitters
yep
basically i think it's fine, and you'll be fine using it, but when it comes into later havocs, it's not worth it, you'll have to just be toggling
relic blade is so fun
dw fatshark saw that psyker no longer had monopoly on the best weapon it game so they gave psyker force greatsword
one of the best weapons in the game i stg
yea its insane
like i enjoy relic blade a lot, clearing havocs with it
cause most psykers aren't competent
not so good
yea lol
that is true
it's absolutely twisted in a melee build

pysker is the best class in the game but no one good at the game plays pysker
🥺
lmao
prob why they keep buffing it
Ogryn being the skeleton bound to the chair underwater
like, i'm going crack the bone+weakspot scriers on it, plus destiny got targeting buffed so you will always farm off bruisers
i'm a literal god
yea
Rodin died for our sins
i have so many damage bonuses i don't think i could list them all
you can do that shit on pysker
Gunner resist is a noob trap
the only downside to force greatsword
is if you can lose your charge
if you activate then get hit before you swing
that's the only weakness
blocking/defense? lol not with KD and empathetic evasion

How do you use RB2 effectively against elites
One of the takes
takes like these is why we bullied you out of here
actually, it's a bit bad vs unyielding specifically, good vs cara but bad vs unyielding which is new
oh is it that time of day again
ok tanner, go to bed, you can dump damage all night in dreamland
And your not
Nade I'm gonna be straight with you
The reason you get shit on so much is because of how shit your attitude still is
You come in here with a bad build and terrible takes and then argue with people better than you
Primarily shit like "gunner res? Pff I'd just slide"
Clearly you fucking wouldn't slide because if you could press more than 1 button at once on your keyboard without suffering an aneurysm you wouldn't have struggled to originally clear auric maels at all, I did that shit the moment I turned level 30 and I have a job and a life.
Your takes are wrong. There is no 'well actually', there is no 'well the perks and talents are debatable', there is nothing for you as someone who takes weak spot damage on bolter and struggles to clear auric maels to debate on.
You can play what u want but pretending that "you're good now" and saying that is a joke.
Real
we back to manifestos lets fucking go
I don’t think I properly articulated what I was tryna say tho cuz I was fuming
dorn's legacy lives on
I guarantee you if you stopped arguing and took a real build you would have cleared it a long time ago.
Cleared what
wait you haven't cleared auric maels yet?
I'll explain it thoroughly for you, right here and now
LOL
Nah
I have
Bro likes lying for fun
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Is shattering impact a good blessing on zealot bolter?
only with puncture imo
cavalcade+pinning is really good baseline for magdumping
but puncture+ shattering gives you easy all range breakpoints
even for shit like crushers
where's the 0.7 figure coming from
anyone had a burster hit them during this cut scene like this? #zealot-class message pretty bullshit
is it from this?
Melee crit damage gives NOTHING OF VALUE on knife.
Almost any other perk offers higher dps. You also NEED certain 25% damage perks to hit oneshot and horde clear breakpoints.
Bolter takes shatter and puncture.
Shatter allows bleed to bypass armor damage reduction.
You take gunner resist not because gunners will kill you without it, but because having to constantly desperately spend all your dodges sliding around opens you up to way more failure than sacrificing your like 1-2s of combat ability regen for it. You will get more value out of it.
Same for stam regen. You're using knife dude you spam push attack. TAKE STAM REGEN.
@slate haven
if you're using that number, then that's because the light linesman/sweeps have a very low finesse
yea that finesse ratio
Not reading allat
sorry i should remember 80%<>100%
Alright. Well ig for now I’ll stick to terrifying barrage and pinning fire because the rest of the blessings you mentioned are only level 3 rn instead of level 4
t3 will be better than t4 tb
fucking hell
Nah, you see I drew myslef as the sigma
people are lying to me
Really?
For sure brody : D
a t1 good blessing>t4 bad blessing
so doing the new mission
Manstopper ptsd
Wolfer just gets fired from his job?
Pre unl I couldn't get it
That’s fair
we all know what getting fired in chaos means
Kinda?
yeah, otherwise, relic finesse on the "reasonably good" side
His faction was collaborating with the freaky ppl
@south folio like literally yesterday I said the finesse ratios were sweeps vs overheads/stabs respectively and i was told no
"If you fail we'll hunt you down"
Someone was thinking they might fight in future lore drops
kill that person
bake them into a lasagna
i'm A SHEEP TRAPPED IN A FERRET TRAPPED IN A HUMAN
what does wrath mean from the relic sword, "on hit", is it like getting hit or hitting somehting?
yeah, the numbers there give you the finesse of the FIRST heavy/light unempowered attack of the combo
How the hell would that work tho
Hitting something
on hitting
Isn't wolfer being kept alive specifically because of nurgle
And his people aswell
when you're the person hitting the enemy
hit an enemy, if you miss the stacks reset
so why would devastating strike be a thing, cuz that just gives a flat amount on crit
wrath's description is also mildly wrong—it's a chained stacking hit blessing, so the stacks reset if you miss
So if I wanna be a meta slave but not like a super super meta slave what am I running ranged and melee wise?
yeah it's confusing but you have indeed spotted an imbalance in the blessing numbers
they're just not balanced properly
hm
for bait
what should be the other blessing then?
devasting strike sucks lol
you go wrath +cranial or rampage
charge uptime vs consistent damage and stagger
K I’m gonna go lurk LFG and the drip channel bc I’m gonna have a fun time playing the video game
You lose
👍
So hold on
and well, before you get into deep havocs
If we stopped Rinda from turning into a demi god
you go rampage+cranial
no, she's stopped
no that was rodan body being used to bring a great unclean one
you just said it
i'm pretty sure
Ohhh
the great stinky
He's dead dead tho
someone posted images, that's rodan's body?
yea bring him back to life by, idk replacing him with a big stinky instead
i'm not a heretic
We deserve a promotion
4 people just stopped a demi god from being born
I want PTO
i mean we fuckin just learned the cult of admonition is the cult of admonition when we has players has known about it since the fuckin start
Best I can do is a month of dental coverage
idk if our higher ups are incompetent or is fatshark
From the talking of it
Zola knew
Rannick was just kinda dumb and ignoring it til it slapped him in the face
Like
Holy shit
I can't ignore it
It's right there
literally walking into the mourningstar on my level 250 character "they are saying there is some sort of cult on atoma?" LIKE EXCUSE ME
HELLO?
random guard
"No Zola you're tweaking and I am pulling your assassination strike team out for no reason"

Rannick is one of the interrogators ever
I really wanna see how this plays out now
Since Wolfer is excommuncated now from the cult
Who the fuck is gonna run the mob6 now
Or will they still follow him
So what kind of build has been deemed "best" for the new weapon?
"Hey if you fuck up we're gonna hunt you down for the rest of your life"
That really ain't bickering
I still haven't gotten around to making it for my Zealot, but I was going to default to a Marty build for the fun factor. I'm curious to know what it works best with.
Only thing I can see now is Wolfer playing the cult and inquisition against each other
cranial+ rampage
And hoping he and his people can clean up the winner
into replacing one with wrath in deep havocs (vs 21st or just high ranks)
well we still have the traitor house angle
so spireside will be broken into
I don't have zealot memorized to know what that kind of build would look like.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da5eb01-a862-467b-9fc8-d806eb3039b7/relic-sword-bis this is mine
ty I'll try this one out and see how it feels.
does the just a flesh wound penance not work on the train mission?
You gotta get hit real early if you’re doing it on train
did it within 30 secs
friend forgot to set it to public game even though we are a full strike team
What the fuck
Ive yet to do Havoc in any way lmao
cursed total deaths
Drip channel?
What…..
I wish you had scoreboard
🤨
What’s the scoreboard mod that shows downs / deaths
Because I don’t think default has it
Maybe just not enabled by default
Oven proof
piety build works too,. good boss damage on that one
anyone feel like doing a just a flesh wound run?
@light badge @honest burrow
Please do not use this ketharius.

Read the pins.
why did u ping me with this cica 2
Wrong person
Lumii has soup for a brain.
Hrup posted a dogshit build and told a new player to use it
Happens when you do the things he does.
Bark really wants to sell that pinned build
a black day indeed when one such thee pings me - me! - with a zealot build!
I really want ppl to not take dogshit builds
love to almost throw on havoc b/c people wanna split up to do smelter and then die to gunners
It's not "selling it" if it's the most effective way to run the weapon, factually.
curio regen is so
at this point I just want a tag for "fully upgraded weapons"
How tf people be running 290s
Yeah
well you see, they die really quickly and don't do anything
If ppl post the same build or one just as good I don't tell them to read pins
But if ppl post dogshit I intervene
I mean the talent tree build is the same no? What's the dogshit part, the blessings and perks on curios? Actual question
why is this guy who publicly displays his sexual furry fetish talking any shit
Or not showing any kind of respect and just immediately calling out people for being bad
Instead of keeping any sort of open mind
jfc
hey guys what blessings for an autopistol
Yeah, I'm kinda lost to be honest cause like, you can call it ineffcient or something like that but calling it dogshit is just rude 
I'll list through them in a second
Hrup consistently posts horrible builds directed at new players
I don't care if it's rude
He knows what he's doing
Consistently?
The talents are the same you put in the pins homedog
I'll type out what spooks wanted
Yeah I don't know y'all so I don't know what's normal around here
I'm just a chill little guy
The talents are fine, bog standard ij build
Also is corruption resist actually kinda good now because of havoc?
I always ran double corruption curio anyways
but now that zealot aura thing
is way better
alongside book
unless you aren't running beacon, not really
what would be curio for this build though? I get stam regen and maybe sprint efficiency maybe? Gunner res too
i feel a single beacon aura stops most corruption
hp and toughness
figures out the mk10 single target combo
masters it on the same mission
peak storytelling
mk10 single target combo on unyielding is insane

feels like a proper slayer
And pray tell the single target combo?
perhaps a slayer of demons
Sword
Unyielding is wrong.
- need elite to hit 4-5 important bps, including crusher oneshot
Energy leakage is wrong.
Rampage is needed for horde clear bps. I posted a spreadsheet I made many times just ctrl f me for it.
Carapace is wrong.
Doesn't hit any boltgun bps.
Also, puncture and shatter are better but those talents are fine for magdumping.. just not as efficient.
2x sprint eff on curio, worthless.
3x ability regen on curio, worthless.
Stamina curio blessing worthless on relic.
Curio is 2t 1h or just 3t.
3 gunner resistance
1 sniper resistance + 2 stamina regen
3 toughness
Talents are fine since relic can't use invoc
I say it's bad cause the perks and blessings make you actively miss very important breakpoints.
It's not an opinion thing.
It's just factually wrong.

Carpace dies one shot with proper buffs, and if not it dies to the follow up strikedown light homedog
where are you getting 4-5 bps from
I don't shill my pinned post because I made it, I started it and took collective input from everyone while we all tested it.
bark do you fw this relic blade
Unyielding is good for reapers, theyre literally top priority now, and bossing
Elite BP let's you oneshot with a thrust and fotf without any situational buffs
Also shotgunners and other elites dont die in one hit
Very bad in thick hordes
And you just say "yeah all those curios are worthless" like wtf lmao
That's not how that works 
wdym not how it works lol
it's the same stat
no please
explain
Isn't it even worse?
No it's not. Yet another FS moment
if i get the buying time penance i can get all 3 for the emperor penances 😭
Isn’t cdr curio instant regen when you activate an ability ?
literally less than a 3rd of a second
I understand how they stack, it's useful anyways
It's not.
"Run precisely what I run or you're wrong and the hallmark of a bad player"
wait relic blade can't use invocation of death?
An additional second off your cds is not the same value as other things.
JFC get off discord for a minute mr. furry
Ability regen curios is the hallmark of a bad player.
Curios reduce maximum ability time when it goes onto cooldown. Invoc gives you a free 2 seconds of extra cooldown every second
It's more than a second, and applies to both charges, so it's double value
So CDR on curios is less impactful if you have Invoc, but still good
nah I'm going with cole
maybe with stealth sure
but fotf
Maybe one day you'll stop jerking it to furry porn
has 100% uptime with invoc
Hey mod nerds, my game crashed two different times on an auspex minigame. Probably caused by a mod, but look at my loadorder.
and get fucking laid lmao
oh look
Idk what he said
hrup being toxic
Just fair warning for anyone potentially
Strike a nerve, did i?
at the end of the day just run whatever you want, everything is ultimately just advice no matter how condescendingly it's delivered 

Why is bro so obsessed with the furry part 
He knows he's wrong so he's using personal attacks.
fotf already has 100% uptime with invoc that's the thing and it's the most common ability
Did Fatshark go overboard with gunner/reaper changes??
I'll just let him keep doing it until I can report him.
True, this man is true. Everything Bark said is 100% viable compared to my curios
No skin off my back.
yeah that's like half this chat anyways
probably
He's just being a massive disrespectful disckhead
Like the attack speed has 100% uptime?
pot meet kettle
I mean they still do gunner/reaper damage
yes
I think they did
Earn my respect by not giving new players bad builds.
+200% ability cooldown makes fotf have a 10 second cooldown
begone from me furret man
I mean the attack speed is good, but more dashes is always better.
Do better.
if youre talking about havoc
thats the point
Sorry to pester you with this but what perks would you run on a bolter pistol?
I ain't concnered with gunner/reaper damage so long as I have my 60% gunner resist
I don't want your respect bark, I don't live for your validation
But the fucking basic shooters 1 bursting my entire toughness bar the second I turn away from them
pisses me off to no end
theyre supposed to be dangerous now
I like puncture and lethal prox but I think someone else would know the best setup
not really when you can just get more raw HP toughness, stam regen or some resists
that is the intention
perks i run uhh fuck, is it maniac unarmored?
But now we're talking about which is potentially better. I just wanted to chime in and say that CDR is not the same % as the one from Invoc. So you can actually compare accurately
To what? Emphasive gold touhness builds or to just fuck your day?
dude asked for a build, said "okay i'll try this out" that's literally it
you cant just ignore them anymore
Then stop crying about not having respect from me
Noone cares
Nah nah I meant the other thing not the blessings
eat a shoe
social rejects can't show any basic curtesy online
you posted a shit build, got told that it's shit
get a room you two
grow the fuck up and get over yourself

Not a shit build at all actually
just different from what bark does, so apparently it's wrong
actually hang on, what even is the build
havoc is meant to be the endgame sweaty low completion rate mode, thats what it was designed to be
What even is the build?
That's totally cool if you prefer that and think it's better. I just don't want people saying curio CDR is like 0.05 seconds or something
i think you need unarmored for dreg gunners for bistol on zealot
Hrup: I take this build and miss like 5-6 breakpoints but it's just as good as barks because umm it is!!! He's so mean help me!!!

Not with puncture iirc
less frustration from stuns, but more threatening from damage
yeah they did just remove ranged hitstun
But @red swift I will acknowledge one mistake I made in our convo
I called your build dogshit, that was a mistake;
You're dogshit.
real
I'm not an expert man and no offense but the blessing selection is kinda mid on the weapons

it might be too much but i'll wait and see, i think ranged hitstun was really frustrating for players and locks you out of your defenses at bad timings
scab shooters, shotgunners, and reapers should still have hitstun i believe, but it's entirely gone from stalkers & gunners
I get that with havoc to some extent but the changes are difficulty wide.
cranial is good but energy leakage
Does that stand for maniac/flak?
Yes
LOL take rampage hrup 36%>20%
Pog I understood that
I think it's a good change
Relic sword fun, hope future power swords get that kind of unique touch
Only when toughness is gone, from what i can see in psykanium at least
I already told him.
like across the entirety of havoc?
hey nerds, theres a bug with the relic sword. If you do minigames with the relic sword it'll crash your game.
His response is simply to crash out
yeah, toughness hitstun has never been a thing unless you were sprinting, and that has been removed long since ago
its if you interact with something while blocking
And attack me for being a furry
dogshit is a favorite phrase in this server, I witnessed a psyker meltdown bonanza where at least 3 people were calling each other dogshit lol
No like across the board, not just havoc
i know but hrup takes it extra hard if multiple people tell him he's wrong
well that's just soyker chat for you
If only that worked for nade..
i believe it's mostly just, frustration
from what i hear they tend to do that quite often
I don't think i was blocking, but it happened twice in a row just trying to do the auspex
what if we have that one uhh transphobic person who keeps making alt accounts

players are frustrated at ranged hitstun
Idk man, to me, I think it's overcooked a bit.
it's mostly wait and see, partially it might just be fatshark stretching themselves too thin trying to keep all difficulties balanced since havoc basically adds 2 more tiers
damn+ and damn++
For clarity: curio CDR and Invoc are two separate stats
Don't give your fucking "erm actually I'm 10000iq and this is the best build" builds to new players
what damage perks for knife on zealot?
This is what i said btw
i mean hrup has always been on my ass for saying sprint effic isn't good for the average player trying to clear aurics
Sprint eff is a joke and another sign of a bad player
and that stam regen is just strictly better for stamina economy for general use
sadly we don't help witches
They did say the dregs are supposed to be more melee intensive but they haven't implemented that yet so it's pretty fucked right now.
i wouldn't go that far
The moment you understand the zealot movement tech sprint eff becomes nonsensical
"not the curios I run, hallmark of a bad player" that's terribly close minded
sprint effic is useful for true duo and true solo
It's a waste of a curio slot.
Does anyone know the best damage perks to run on knife for zealot?
but hrup is just massively disconnected from anything that isn't his in-group
True and based
this is the easiest itll ever be actually
theyre only going to make it harder from here
no one said sniper tho
🤔
I dunno about calling this BIS but it's servicable I'm sure
I can't comment on the boltgun because I don't really play that, but I think the weapons can go for a bit of a stat change so mobility's at 60%
I don't believe the stamina curio is wholly necessary
Pious cutthroat is an interesting choice for this talent tree setup, but I'm biased towards the left side w/ invocation of death & blazing piety + fury rising- the relic sword seems to be a crit build weapon that profits heavily off of blessings like Heatsink and talents like duelist judging from the finesse stat
Oh yeah
He listed his curios and said to take sniper bro
@remote lark thank you for the help btw!
yeah ok lol

one sniper is a lot of breakpoints and you can always get fucked over by fatshark or a random on your team using voidblast or rumbler
mmmm voidblast
2gunner/1sniper is just efficiency for the average auric player
but hrup is too good for randoms
I looked at the crit damage in inspect and wasn't too excited about it, but it still does big numbers, which is why I don't take crit. Boltgun kind of carries me though, it clears hordes and prettu much everything in a mag dump.
Htup doesn't understand offensive breakpoints what makes you think he'll understand that maybe getting darktided™️ and oneshot by a sniper is bad
sometimes the game just fucks you
trapper bullshit res when..?

the what now
mostly it's just been my team fucking me over ngl, i haven't been hit by a raw sniper for a year now
it's just me being body blocked by prone enemies
cause someone is a filthy spammer
it seems like the relic blade is kinda the same as boltgun in that regard, at least when powered
Elite dmg resist when
It's not even just zealot, I'm exaggersting
solid generalist weapon where you can just go "fuck it" and annihilate a horde if need be
The moment you learn how to slide
And time your cds to regain your dodges
You never have sprint problems again
I slide but lag compensation means they shoot me anyways and it makes me sad
yea sprint effic is just worse stam regen, cause stam regen will help in all stam related scenarios vs just one
That's why I say it's a hallmark of a bad player
timing your dodge cds? I just ball
yeah sprint efficiency is such an obviously dogshit perk why would anyone suggest it
What does this have to do with telling a new player to use sprint efficiency and ability cdr? That's setting them up for failure
bad or completely disconnected from the reality of 3 randoms
anything but sprint efficiency
it's useful in a few specific scenarios, clutching, cheesing/speedrunning maps in true duos/solos, exploiting maps
we were talking about the relic blade and crits
idk how it's wrong to have them use it, build still has gunner resist. It's not an exclusive top tier gamers only curio.
yea tbh, relic has a shit ton of stamina
now, I do agree that sprint efficiency and ability cdr aren't.. uh.. particularly good picks
it was heavily nerfed before release
2 people had already duoed 40 before it dropped
I don't need to sit here and list the benefits of stamina homedog
i'm not against it like bark but, i never really considered it cause i can rez someone in a horde already
My thoughts exactly
"Throwing knives are bad."
"Why?"
"I'm not telling you".
We'll see.

I always take a stamina curio every build
So bonus toughness and health which can help a newer player survive longer just isn't important
oh man exploiting maps that reminds me I gotta go through them on low difficulty and fuck around to find out of bounds spots again
And yet again, I was right about you being bad.
For the funnies

It's paused by dodging, and sprinting and blocking affects it so
Sigh.
It's good to have
and good for revives
as long as you aren't doing it in publics 
Somewhat related. Does Zealot have the highest movespeed or is it Veteran?
Zealot with swift certainty I think..
ogryn is da fastest 
Either is fine homedog, I just linked himi my build because he wanted one
zealot has the highest base movement speed with raw stat buffs in the tree
psyker has the highest potential speed
base walk speed should be the same
zealot and vet should have the highest base sprint speed bonus? I forget, but zealot is one of the two
Zealot for most time at max zoom but I thought psyker had a weird talent combo that could just take the edge
(I do not pay attention to movespeeds)
Wait why was I pinged
I asked what drip channel was
repost this to scare non americans
An hour+ for one mission is absurd dude.
I'm sorry for being mean 2 u, someone more dumb has turned up and earned my ire
idc what is "fine" if it's a new player I'm going to give them a build that will help them survive longer, not some build that we can use due to being skilled enough to work with lower resources

Crazy
thats the point
Cool! Dont.




