This fits you pretty well lol
#zealot-class
placid fiber
winter furnace
splendid
fleet zealot
fatshark saw that making duelist sword be all class meant they didn't have the strongest melee anymore
so they have to rectify it by giving them the covenant swords
lunar fable
fleet zealot
entire room clear with ease
lunar fable
placid fiber
One could even say, on the edge
lunar fable
i need the shark again
light badge
I just barrel jumped next to a flamer and then pushed two bursters into it to kill it
and the clip didn't fucking save
sterile stone
@spare talon We don't talk about those maulers.
sullen forge
I just barrel jumped next to a flamer and then pushed two bursters into it to ki...
Rest in piss bozo
light badge
that was the coolest thing I've ever done in darktide and now it's gone
sullen forge
light badge
fuck
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> We don't talk about those maulers.
what maulers
grizzled aspen
and the clip didn't fucking save
It's ok Hahnda, I believe you.
sterile stone
Exactly.
spare talon
light badge
❤️
winter furnace
It's ok Hahnda, I believe you.
i dont because im super evil
rocky nacelle
the frost consumes
median steeple
this orb is so me
sterile stone
placid fiber
You are my favorite hag.
rocky nacelle
how was the ham
sullen forge
this orb is so me
Y
grizzled aspen
i dont because im super evil
Aren't you like a Cole grub or something?
sterile stone
It's been finally acomplished
winter furnace
nevermind i cantbe a contratianin this situation
quaint rose
whats the swing pattern for mk 2 gps?
rocky nacelle
this orb is so me
do u do sweet ham or just normal ass ham, how was the ham
winter furnace
i am an neutral party
median steeple
maple ham
sullen forge
median steeple
pre good
rocky nacelle
mmm mpale ham
grizzled aspen
whats the swing pattern for mk 2 gps?
Horde clear is h1, h2, l3, repeat h2, l3.
lunar fable
obsidian prairie
Aren't you like a Cole grub or something?
They showed up yesterday
spare talon
i found this guy in fireteam finder yesterday and we went from 21-25 and i found them again at 27 lmao
lunar fable
i didn't realize he died this way
rocky nacelle
personally i be rubbing brown sugar on my ham......
spare talon
so i rejoined
quaint rose
Horde clear is h1, h2, l3, repeat h2, l3.
so is light spam primarily strikedown?
heady frost
hey there, running a relic blade FotF momentum build. Not sure what other bonuses to use for my curios. I got the following at the moment. Advice much appreciated ngl
placid fiber
Pikachu, I choose you! Use: Flamethrow- Oh wait, he's not a fire type...
spare talon
I SAID FIRETEAM FINDER
winter furnace
They showed up yesterday
earlier today for me but ya
spare talon
IM KILLING MYSELF
grizzled aspen
so is light spam primarily strikedown?
Your single target is l1, h3, h4, repeat h3, h4.
sterile stone
i found this guy in fireteam finder yesterday and we went from 21-25 and i found...
I found him yesterday aswell
spare talon
I JUST EXPOSED MY MENTAL ILLNESS
sterile stone
But we only played 1 match
grizzled aspen
Very combo heavy weapon there.
sterile stone
Oh shit we're actually gonna make it to hav 30
placid fiber
I JUST EXPOSED MY MENTAL ILLNESS
Welcome to the club of exposed psychos
obsidian prairie
I JUST EXPOSED MY MENTAL ILLNESS
We already know
grizzled aspen
I JUST EXPOSED MY MENTAL ILLNESS
Destiny 2 player. 🫵
placid fiber
I would, but, I don't give 1 shit about destiny
grizzled aspen
Destiny could've been such a fucking cool franchise if Bungie would've dared to be grittier with it.
spare talon
But we only played 1 match
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to back up to a safer spot to deal with whatever is going on, the only spawns not tied to progress are specialists, so always deal with whats happening safely before moving on
sterile stone
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to...
I wish my other pubs absorbed this info
grizzled aspen
Like, straight up, if Bungie doubled down on the theme of loss that came with Forsaken, the franchise would've sold itself.
placid fiber
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to...
the knife zealot speeding forwards to disappoint you:
placid fiber
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to...
Oh also: train mission
daring sentinel
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to...
wait, does this mean no random hordes either?
spare talon
Oh also: train mission
not in havoc
grizzled aspen
i was telling them the most important thing about havoc is patience, its okay to...
Just for that post, playa, I'm throwing on a damage dump lacerate flesh tearer knife and running through every boss and horde spawn until I either die or I get kicked.
daring sentinel
huh, I didn't know that, thanks!
spare talon
keyword atm
that isnt set in stone
placid fiber
keyword atm
that isnt set in stone
lunar fable
i'm getting dinner
rocky nacelle
i got a 23 gloriana waiting
lunar fable
rocky nacelle
or it might be 24
rocky nacelle
<a:Leavegers:1299436138473324554>
placid fiber
I'm starting to feel the insulin crash after eating a large supper lol
median steeple
I think I could
winter furnace
I'm starting to feel the insulin crash after eating a large supper lol
are you british
placid fiber
are you british
I ate my sub from work, and I ate an entire pizza melt from pizza hut x.x
timid bough
what's dump stat on dueling sword, cleave?
placid fiber
mobility
zealous basin
its mobility
timid bough
don't you use the heavy stab attack for most things
timid bough
not on knife
zealous basin
obsidian prairie
not on knife
Yes on knife
timid bough
nop
broken walrus
You can dump cleave dmg on duelinsword too
obsidian prairie
Who told you otherwise
zealous basin
what
obsidian prairie
Alright
zealous basin
on earth
obsidian prairie
Explode
timid bough
you get +9% damage or +8% damage from first target
obsidian prairie
Right now
placid fiber
you get +9% damage or +8% damage from first target
You prefer a lower multiplier that affects all damage?
obsidian prairie
you get +9% damage or +8% damage from first target
It’s a multiplier
timid bough
You prefer a lower multiplier that affects all damage?
that affects first target damage, so basically heavy attacks, and yeah, because look at the bonuses on mobility
placid fiber
that affects first target damage, so basically heavy attacks, and yeah, because ...
It affects every single point of damage you do
on all attacks
timid bough
Ig I can try to play with a mobility dump knife
zealous basin
wait u didnt try it
timid bough
I tried it before we had the current crafting system my guy
obsidian prairie
Knife already has enough mobility to not care
timid bough
I tried it before we had the current crafting system my guy
good luck getting a 60% mobility knife then
obsidian prairie
I played with a 35%
winter furnace
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084...
thishappened to em
me
placid fiber
it's not 8% more damage, btw, it's +0.08 to the multiplier
timid bough
hm
hard nexus
viral hare
timid bough
Alr, well, I'll try it out - since I'm asking, what are your preferred blessings for the knife, it seems they changed a few things over the.. years atp
placid fiber
uncanny + precog on non-crit builds(IJ), precog + riposte on crit builds
obsidian prairie
Uncanny/riposte + precog
timid bough
alr
I did have uncanny because OPasf
had lacerate from I believe when bleed did a ton more dmg
heady frost
Is it possible to only bind Zealot's blitz stuff to a specific keybind?
I want all classes except Zealot to access grenades with G, but with Zealot (due to knives) with a mouse button. Is there a mod for that? Or nah?
fleet zealot
that affects first target damage, so basically heavy attacks, and yeah, because ...
what bonuses to mobility really tho
from 60 vs 80?
light badge
are there any Lua nerds in chat?
zealous basin
are there any Lua nerds in chat?
yeah watch this
fleet zealot
you can dump penetration with uncanny
viral hare
what bonuses to mobility really tho
i mean +1 dodge at max mobility is the biggest but 60 is good enough tbh
fleet zealot
and that's basically it
zealous basin
oh nvm i misread
fleet zealot
i mean +1 dodge at max mobility is the biggest but 60 is good enough tbh
no?
60% gives you the same dodge count as 80
on all weapons
light badge
lul
misty nova
Just learned that you can proc the 30% reload speed on the rumbler with your melee
About to be peak
fleet zealot
the dodge count threshold is in the 51 and above 80
timid bough
I believe it might have used to give you an extra dodge
placid fiber
i mean +1 dodge at max mobility is the biggest but 60 is good enough tbh
You get +1 dodge above 50%(51%+), then no more
viral hare
huh, learning new things
obsidian prairie
Or something stupid
tame mirage
fleet zealot
there is one more dodge on some weapons but that would require being above 80 which is currently impossible
placid fiber
most weapons that have things like this get 1 extra dodge at 51% mobility/defences
remote lark
there is one more dodge on some weapons but that would require being above 80 wh...
psyker has a +1 dodge talent
not sure if it can get hose weapons though
or anything like them
ah wait
ds
remote lark
yes it is!
rocky nacelle
its weird
remote lark
you can take it to get 2 dodge slides on warp staff
as opposed to jus 1 before u run out
rocky nacelle
i gotta read the enhanced description on it again
cause its weird asf
and ive never ran it
placid fiber
I feel like it's something that's more useful for people who are learning how to dodge... like agile... for us it's more just a meme
elder surge
Good evening, fellas
placid fiber
since it takes the spot of something much better
elder surge
Probably won't until friday :/
Sad times brother
placid fiber
Just not feeling it today, and after work tomorrow my back is probably gonna be hurting too much
fleet zealot
yea cause empathic evasion is right there
why make your dodges slightly better when you can just get, ghost basically 24/7
elder surge
When do Zealots get nunchucks
elder surge
Not until 2195
Some one get the devs on this
placid fiber
lol
rocky nacelle
please director
timid bough
btw is it still possible to get max rarity curios, yknow the stuff where you get +3 stamina instead of +2 and +21%/17% health/toughness
placid fiber
btw is it still possible to get max rarity curios, yknow the stuff where you get...
400 rated 3 stamina curios are a lie, 410+ rated 3 stamina curios are real
21% health and 17% toughness, 1 wound
timid bough
400 rated 3 stamina curios are a lie, 410+ rated 3 stamina curios are real
what?
placid fiber
Yep
timid bough
but still possible to get them then?
every time ive looked every time ive been on for fucking forever I havent seen anything decent
placid fiber
I wouldn't be telling you this if it wasn't lol
red mesa
Is it just me, do the dodges on the relic sword feel different in-game than they do in the meat grinder?
they feel much worse in match
is it in my head?
placid fiber
you get offered shit tier stuff way more often lol
fleet zealot
is it in my head?
no
they have the worst dodges in the game rn for a melee
i checked
it's 5% below the next worst dodges
violet hornet
Is it just me, do the dodges on the relic sword feel different in-game than they...
could this be a hidden havoc modifier if you're playing havoc?
fleet zealot
5% worse than chaxe before it got buffed
placid fiber
it's 5% below the next worst dodges
inb4 we get 2h chainaxes
red mesa
could this be a hidden havoc modifier if you're playing havoc?
maybe but ive felt it in non havoc
placid fiber
they have the worst dodges in the game rn for a melee
even worse than oggy's?
fleet zealot
it's just cause meatgrinder isn't a server connection
meatgrinder isn't on the server
violet hornet
maybe but ive felt it in non havoc
Ahh I haven't played relic sword enough but I'll try to keep this in mind while I do
fleet zealot
even worse than oggy's?
yep, branx is 5% better at dodges than relic blade
placid fiber
Oof
autumn vector
My fucking ogryn has 3 +3 stamina curios at 410. Zealot. None. I'm only keeping then on ogryn for cope. I can't imagine using them on him.
red mesa
they have the worst dodges in the game rn for a melee
which with how offensive they are, and being 2h swords, i see the balance decision.
but they actively feel worse/different to me in a real game, than they do in the testing grounds
placid fiber
because in testing you have 0 ping
fleet zealot
maps have a shit ton of activity
red mesa
but maybe its in my head
copper hawk
which with how offensive they are, and being 2h swords, i see the balance decisi...
I dont lmfao
Look at psykers
placid fiber
maps have a shit ton of activity
And ur dodging left and right
fleet zealot
yea psykers greatsword has, slightly better dodges
violet hornet
Look at psykers
I also don't look at psykers
red mesa
I dont lmfao
maybe not the worse dodge in the game even than the branx lol.
but i could see them having meh dodges, like power swords or evis
copper hawk
They just didnt give a fuck to properly test the gs at auric level damnations; you cant kill things fast enough and you swing slow as shit
fleet zealot
relic blade
Sprint Speed: [-0.56 - 0.16]
Dodge Distance: [0.8 - 0.9]
Dodge Limit: [3 - 4]
covenant blade
Sprint Cost: [1.13 - 0.88]
Push Cost: [3 - 1]
Dodge Distance: [0.85 - 0.95]
Dodge Limit: [3 - 4]
copper hawk
Psyker gsword has better dodges, mobility in general, swing speed, and had a screenwiper
placid fiber
relic blade
Sprint Speed: [-0.56 - 0.16]
Dodge Distance: [0.8 - 0.9]
Dodge Limit...
wait don't thammers have worse dodges?
copper hawk
And has*
autumn vector
The relic blades have the same dodge as eviserators.
copper hawk
wait don't thammers have worse dodges?
They have one less dodge
placid fiber
I mean distance-wise
copper hawk
And Yah mamox I noticed in game the relic blade fucking sucks w dodges
fleet zealot
wait don't thammers have worse dodges?
thammer
Sprint Cost: [1.88 - 1.63]
Push Cost: [3 - 1]
Dodge Distance: [0.81 - 0.94]
Dodge Speed: [1.15 - 1.25]
autumn vector
In terms of distance
copper hawk
When it should be identical to the eviscerator
fleet zealot
thammer is faster than relic blade
red mesa
They just didnt give a fuck to properly test the gs at auric level damnations; y...
uhh idk, the MK II is kinda nasty, you just gotta use the push attack a lot to start combos
copper hawk
Giant unbalanced hammer swings faster than a fucking sword
red mesa
i do feel way less safe with it but
copper hawk
We really are the redheaded step child of the classes
fleet zealot
no zealot is the strongest class and ogryn is the weakest obv!
visual stream
The first time I used relic blade and on the first match I tried Dark Communion I was forced to clutch and did pretty well with it
copper hawk
Growls
visual stream
It is quite good
copper hawk
Grr
violet hornet
We really are the redheaded step child of the classes
looks at vets who got no new toys this patch
fleet zealot
oh yea relic blade is good
autumn vector
Tbh the push attacks combos on two are fine.
fleet zealot
*looks at vets who got no new toys this patch*
vet gets powersword and a possible power sword rework now
fleet zealot
relic blade is good, but i think force greatsword is arguably one of the best melees in the game
violet hornet
inb4 vets get the melta gun
fleet zealot
second only to like, karsola
fleet zealot
tied with shield 
copper hawk
relic blade is good, but i think force greatsword is arguably one of the best me...
Nah id argue relic is bad
fleet zealot
nah
copper hawk
One of the few just bad weapons
fleet zealot
unless it falls off into havoc 30+
autumn vector
We really are the redheaded step child of the classes
Zealot is pretty good. Idk where this idea comes from that we're mistreated.
fleet zealot
it has great minimum damage
copper hawk
It doesnt fall off cuz of the uniqueness of the power cleave
fleet zealot
and wrath
misty nova
psyker covenant blade is ridic tho
When the magic man has magic
copper hawk
But in normal auric damnation maels it's just awful
fleet zealot
Ogryn feels like the unwanted child if anything
ogryn is just victim mentality
echo breach
Fellas a bit late to the party but we take wrath on relic for havoc?
copper hawk
In one specific circumstance everything is so weak its one strength becomes relevant again
placid fiber
tied with shield <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
fleet zealot
i'm sorry you have kars and kickback and just got a 20 round automatic railgun
autumn vector
vet gets powersword and a possible power sword rework now
Vets will probably get their own private weapon patch, just like they got their own keystone patch.
fleet zealot
i mean, now BM isn't good enough for high havocs
placid fiber
I did research lol
fleet zealot
shit's actually shaking up the meta
fleet zealot
I did research lol
yea, tied for worst dodges my bad
placid fiber
Relic blade has the same dodges as the shield and power sword lol
placid fiber
glad chaxe isn't there
same lol
copper hawk
ZOOOOOOS
visual stream
i'm sorry you have kars and kickback and just got a 20 round automatic railgun
Like I said, they still feel wanted 
autumn vector
ogryn is just victim mentality
I wouldn't call ogryn bad, but their toughness regen is pretty medicore compared to vet or zealot. There is a reason they're the least played class and it's not just the slow movement.
fleet zealot
ONE MORE BUFF TO PSYKER
copper hawk
Ogryn feels like the unwanted child if anything
They can feel however they like
It's not reality
marble rover
ONE MORE BUFF TO PSYKER
Ye
fleet zealot
I wouldn't call ogryn bad, but their toughness regen is pretty medicore compared...
it's the slow movement, i wouldn;t even say bad, it's just niche and actually has a learning curve
copper hawk
Me sitting as a Zealot with 0 tree reworks
fleet zealot
but i don't agree with toughness gen lol
fleet zealot
ogryn has some of the best gen and DR in the game
placid fiber
Me sitting as a Zealot with 0 tree reworks
oggy didn't get a tree rework, just a talent location change for some of them
fleet zealot
yea zealot tree sucks on a mechanical level it makes no sense
nothing lines up right when the talent trees are specifically supposed to be made where you can go down any of the 3 paths straight down, and have a workable normal damnation build
hearty nebula
some of zealots really good talents are just locked behind just like
copper hawk
oggy didn't get a tree rework, just a talent location change for some of them
Oh man id love that
hearty nebula
utter dogshit talents that dont even really do anything
placid fiber
Oh man id love that
They didn't even change any values either lol
copper hawk
Tweaks or reworks
We've received neither
Id love for them to move our tness talents closer together
Or mix up the talent trees
Or change unremitting and sainted shitlinger
placid fiber
Or mix up the talent trees
Loner... now in the spot of benediction!
autumn vector
but i don't agree with toughness gen lol
Uh.. no. Zealot has the best dr in the game bar none, and vet has crazy toughness generation. Though probably not as good as Zealot. Stalwart Zealot toughness regen is crazy.
copper hawk
Our best tness generation is separated by five fucking talent points lmfao
fleet zealot
Uh.. no. Zealot has the best dr in the game bar none, and vet has crazy toughnes...
nah vet out DRs zealot with iron will easily
copper hawk
Uh.. no. Zealot has the best dr in the game bar none, and vet has crazy toughnes...
Kid named Iron Will
fleet zealot
thing is
zealot has multiple smaller sources of DR
that gives constant diminishing returns
copper hawk
Yah
copper hawk
We mathematically less if you take all the best ones
fleet zealot
ogryn gets both types of DR
sterile stone
@spare talon You're welcome
placid fiber
Uh.. no. Zealot has the best dr in the game bar none, and vet has crazy toughnes...
Oggy with 8% dr per bleeding enemy near them(up to 5) on top of 20% dr as a base... and 30% dr to oggy enemies... <.<
copper hawk
And it's all u need
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> You're welcome
what did you drop to get it there
sterile stone
what did you drop to get it there
Grenadier
copper hawk
ogryn gets both types of DR
Yep
placid fiber
Oggy with 8% dr per bleeding enemy near them(up to 5) on top of 20% dr as a base...
On top of 20% based tdr
oh and 20% dr while bracing/15% while charging a heavy
copper hawk
Ugh
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> You're welcome
we'll see how it goes
copper hawk
Im gonna fuckin lose it man
hearty nebula
ok dark but have you considered that we would have to play ogryn
and its fucking boring
copper hawk
WE HAVE NOTHING !!!!!!
placid fiber
we got... 40% on over 1 wound in damage, 60% for 4s on health damage, and 25% on dodge
sterile stone
we'll see how it goes
Had a bonus point, might dump it into extra damage on tag kill
obsidian prairie
<@142046391504601088> You're welcome
Twinned blast smokes
violet hornet
WE HAVE NOTHING !!!!!!
we have da emprah
autumn vector
W golden tness ur unkillable
50% on bleed and another 25% on stalwart
copper hawk
we got... 40% on over 1 wound in damage, 60% for 4s on health damage, and 25% on...
Some of these on cooldown too
obsidian prairie
No iron will
copper hawk
Something 2 add
fleet zealot
50% on bleed and another 25% on stalwart
50% is our biggest source
autumn vector
Off wrong reply
obsidian prairie
God damn havoc must be cursed
placid fiber
now tdr zealots have the most of
autumn vector
Ooof
remote lark
i'm finally playing through havoc
placid fiber
I think
sterile stone
@spare talon You think you'd benefit from this?
remote lark
and like
autumn vector
Dammit phone app
placid fiber
I could be wrong on that lol
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> You think you'd benefit from this?
not really
violet hornet
i'm currently at 19
yeah feels like spicy malice to me
sterile stone
My only other choices would be born leader
Or bring it down
So
Extra monst damage
OR extra toughness
autumn vector
So how do the DR on toughness work?
hearty nebula
TDR?
autumn vector
Erre
hearty nebula
its just damage reduction for toughness i'd presume
remote lark
dr equally applies to toughenss and health
tdr only applie to toughness
autumn vector
How does dismissing returns on dr work*
remote lark
multiplicatively
plucky gate
We mathematically less if you take all the best ones
??? Vet has 50% toughness dr from iron will and we have 50% crit dr
They don't have more toughness dr
fleet zealot
so the DR only applies to the remaining damage you are taking
autumn vector
So if I get hit do I lose all my dr? Part of it?
fleet zealot
besides like, iron will going below 75% toughness
lunar fable
placid fiber
??? Vet has 50% toughness dr from iron will and we have 50% crit dr
They don't h...
the only catch is for vets it's only above 75% toughness... and ours is as long as we can crit every 4s or w/e
plucky gate
yeah sure, you can say our conditions are harder or whatever
But we have more
copper hawk
Crit WITHOUT killing
fleet zealot
so like, if you have 25% dr, the next source only works on 75% of the damage you take,
placid fiber
yeah sure, you can say our conditions are harder or whatever
But we have more
potatoes or cheese?
fleet zealot
then apply another 20% DR and so on and so forth
copper hawk
If u crit something and it dies u dont get that sweet 50% tdr
Vet u stand around or press F and u have it
plucky gate
I think you're thinking of scourge, not crit dr
spare talon
??? Vet has 50% toughness dr from iron will and we have 50% crit dr
They don't h...
they also have up to 33% tdr based on # of coherency as one of the first available talents
i always forget that talent exists tbh
copper hawk
I think you're thinking of scourge, not crit dr
We're talkin about tdr
rocky nacelle
<a:Leavegers:1299436138473324554>
i will be havocing maybe later
grizzled aspen
they also have up to 33% tdr based on # of coherency as one of the first availab...
Close quarters drill goes hard.
spare talon
so they have 2 tdr talents active with a basically no condition
copper hawk
lunar fable
placid fiber
so they have 2 tdr talents active with a basically no condition
interesting
and how does that make u feel?
autumn vector
So if I get hit for a 100 damage. Have a 50% dr and 25% dr i get hit for what 38 damage?
craggy otter
i'm currently at 19
20 and below are heresy I believe
lunar fable
i am free until 10 (est)
copper hawk
20 and below are heresy I believe
Yep yep
plucky gate
We're talkin about tdr
Then i'm pretty sure it's not true. I'll test crit kills when i get home
placid fiber
<@427815660937019393>
removes your eyes "no sight for u"
autumn vector
Is the highest value for dr always used first? Then the smaller ones?
placid fiber
Does it really matter?
plucky gate
it doesn't matte
craggy otter
I think it doesn't matter
placid fiber
cause each time it multiplies
plucky gate
multiplication order isn't gonna change the result
placid fiber
and gives the same end result
craggy otter
it onyl matters if the types are different, additive versus multiplicative
sterile basalt
Is the highest value for dr always used first? Then the smaller ones?
Additive till highest
grand tangle
Which relic blade mark do you guys prefer
craggy otter
I really enjoy X
autumn vector
So those little 5% nodes are kind wtfever in the grand scheme
copper hawk
Then i'm pretty sure it's not true. I'll test crit kills when i get home
I hope it's not true
placid fiber
visual stream
Which relic blade mark do you guys prefer
The one with the looping horizontal heavies
copper hawk
Or ill kms
visual stream
But haven't used the other in a real match yet
craggy otter
The one with the looping horizontal heavies
X
hearty nebula
well
craggy otter
for some reason on the forums, I think they had em swapped
sterile basalt
If u crit something and it dies u dont get that sweet 50% tdr
Enduring faith activates from crit hit/kill
grizzled aspen
But haven't used the other in a real match yet
Mk2 is much more intuitive if you're good with mk3 evisc.
grand tangle
Why bother with mods game is buggy enough as it is
craggy otter
mods work fine currently outside of like a couple, last I checked
I do wish I wouldn't magically teleport outside of rails and be in a fallen state
median steeple
Why bother with mods game is buggy enough as it is
they don't fuck with stability and plus mods make the game more tolerable in a lot of aspects (numeric UI my beloved)
copper hawk
Yah mods make it fine
autumn vector
Mk2 is much more intuitive if you're good with mk3 evisc.
Agree. Makes you block a lot more to.
copper hawk
I think the 1 required 4 me is numeric ui
uneven galleon
time to see if i updated all the mods i need to
Idk if this is posted here but
craggy otter
it's default in vermintide 2, idk why it's not a thing in darktide
copper hawk
No u havent
sterile basalt
Pawesome
Yea, scourge doesn’t work if the crit outright kills hordes because you need to hit something that’s alive & bleeding to stack it
Whereas enduring faith activates from any crit
copper hawk
I left and rejoined
grizzled aspen
Oh ok.
tame mirage
squeeb
grizzled aspen
That makes sense.
lunar fable
i've been here longer than both of you guys
lunar fable
lunar fable
i've been beat
grizzled aspen
my for the drip presets are all borked
Good.
hearty nebula
i NEED to kill myself..
grizzled aspen
That mod causes so much instability, it makes weapon customization look like a tea party.
grizzled aspen
Baby Cica...
median steeple
rock
visual stream
grizzled aspen
Ok discord is definitely on something or I have also left and rejoined.
grizzled aspen
Because apparently my first message is something about doing warp charges.
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/2014-gif-22209405
violet hornet
is mods working yet
heavy arch
thank you chief
median steeple
Because the same question has been asked 300 times and it's easier to just look at the announcements
grizzled aspen
why cant i ask here too?
Because they have significantly more information than we do.
grizzled aspen
It's like going to a police officer and asking about fire codes.
violet hornet
I just scrolled up since it was posted 8 minutes ago lmao
placid fiber
I just scrolled up since it was posted 8 minutes ago lmao
This is not allowed, you shall be ejected from the space zebra
lost pumice
For my taxe, I'm using a piety build with headtaker/shred. Would it be better to replace one of the blessings with brutal momentum?
placid fiber
For my taxe, I'm using a piety build with headtaker/shred. Would it be better to...
@spare talon Got any advice for this? I don't know jack shit about the taxe
placid fiber
oh wait @lost pumice I do have this, but, cole might have better insight
spare talon
that
lost pumice
oh wait <@1023409269292400723> I do have this, but, cole might have better insig...
Perfect. I think this is the exact post I was trying to remember
placid fiber
Sweet, I am glad I store this info lol
spare talon
you can honestly do bromentum on the mk2 as well
but youd be doing much more heavies
placid fiber
Making use out of this lol
spare talon
and i do not really like the angles on them tbh
so if i want brutal momentum i use the mk7
cursive crown
how are we feeling about the Runic Blade?
spare talon
absolutely miserable
lost pumice
I've been using shred on the mk7. And I've been doing pretty good with it. But wanted to switch it up.
spare talon
considered midair the entire time, so dodging was impossible
chaos spawn force field knockback is so cool!
remote lark
all of the bad players are auric locked
havoc was full of good players
i had time to do 16-20 this evening
it was fun and easy
visual stream
absolutely miserable
Cspawn buff looking pretty good
placid fiber
absolutely miserable
What happens to anyone who gets cornered by a chaos spawn while standing on something... and a flamer...
median steeple
how are we feeling about the Runic Blade?
spare talon
i had time to do 16-20 this evening
i love being 21+ is when it really starts
remote lark
the mk3 chainsword does really well that low
median steeple
pretty fun weapon
visual stream
You guys waited until you're old enough?
spare talon
trying to type muiltiple messages while playing havoc isnt easy
forgot i had a previous message in progress
placid fiber
Welp I'll leave you to your havoc, sorry lol
I think I'm gonna hit the hay anyway, my insulin crash is making me wobbly at my desk lol
visual stream
obtuse solstice
any loadout suggestions for 20+? dclaw is not cutting it
lost pumice
Are y'all gonna keep playing havoc after you unlock the cosmetics?
royal vortex
any loadout suggestions for 20+? dclaw is not cutting it
a wrath relic blade is p sick for consistent rager stagger on heavies + moebian 21st hordes
remote lark
i love being 21+ is when it really starts
Why
royal vortex
cuz the hitmass is chunky
ivory beacon
So, what should I build on my Relic Blade?
remote lark
Read pins.
ivory beacon
Ah
visual stream
Why not cara on relic ooc? It makes it kill them either tolerably or well depending on power mode
fleet zealot
So, what should I build on my Relic Blade?
cranial rampage
visual stream
Unless that is a recommendation including havoc
fleet zealot
until late havoc/21st modifier, then you want wrath
ivory beacon
I was gonna do Wrath Regardless.
visual stream
It helps kill them without FotF though
fleet zealot
wrath isn't even really needed even in auric damn
visual stream
Unless the BP doesn't change in either state without FotF, which it could since I didn't test elite
plucky sparrow
just came across a zealot with the name victor pepperzpyre
remote lark
It helps kill them without FotF though
Elites is more useful even so
Because you hit multiple other onrshot / cleave breakpoints
grizzled aspen
Oh God I almost spoke in genchat.
visual stream
True, I recall a shotgunner surviving with like ten HP when I was testing something which is lame
remote lark
There's a case to be made for cara over elites but elites is just uncontestedly better over all
heavy arch
i think im shortbussin, no matter what setting i change i cant get havoc to open up
plucky sparrow
did you do a maelstrom
south folio
i think im shortbussin, no matter what setting i change i cant get havoc to open...
press E to clear previous selections
just bad UX
visual stream
Elites is better generalist I assume, carapace seems valid if you really don't like crushers and maulers
grizzled aspen
Elites is better generalist I assume, carapace seems valid if you *really* don't...
I will do testing this weekend to confirm whether or not it's necessary to run carapace over elites.
opal star
elites is better general use, yea
and specialists is uh
I mean are you really struggling to kill specialists
grizzled aspen
If you run specialist damage on anything I'm going to assume you do not have brain cells.
visual stream
Muh mutant damage
grizzled aspen
It used to be excusable before U&L, now it is not.
grizzled aspen
Muh mutant damage
RUN MANIAC AND 3/4 THE WEAPONS IN THE GAME WILL 1SHOT IT
visual stream
Running specialist to reach poxburster melee BP 
opal star
poxburster melee bp is insane
lost pumice
Omg, I just did my first successful auric damnation
opal star
congratulations!
now do 4 more without dying
hope you don't get barrelled off a cliff
fleet zealot
royal vortex
da goons
south folio
SOCIETY
royal vortex
maybe it is
visual stream
Played a Silo Cluster last night where I was barreled four times by a very unaware or very maliciously aware person
lost pumice
Rolling steel is significantly easier than it used to be
visual stream
One insta killed off a ledge
opal star
Played a Silo Cluster last night where I was barreled four times by a very unawa...
had to be on purpose
visual stream
Had to be
plucky gate
If u crit something and it dies u dont get that sweet 50% tdr
I can't believe you baited me into testing your misinfo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1314032140211589212/crit_dr.mp4?ex=67524b4b&is=6750f9cb&hm=dd890595acf0952aab8dfb9508cb9a1aa9f0a5323ce0256910c552db6b05692e&
opal star
1-2 barrels I can understand but after the third one be fr
visual stream
That's why I edged their respawn when the team made me clutch so they could watch me clutch for another minute or so
median steeple
you fool
fleet zealot
copper hawk
I can't believe you baited me into testing your misinfo
https://cdn.discordapp.c...
Good boy
But path already did
lost pumice
I was doing auric heresy and 3 separate times I had already pushed the poxburster away, but someone shot it anyway and took half my health
copper hawk
Ur 2 late
glossy sparrow
How do i stab with sword
remote lark
Sprint and heavy attack
glossy sparrow
Its a sprint specific attack?
glossy sparrow
So i sprint, charge hatk?
opal star
heavy attack while sprinting
median steeple
when you're sprinting you lower your sword when that happens hold heavy and you'll stab
glossy sparrow
As in if i wanna use the zealot charge
opal star
interestingly
you can use FOTF with it
so yeah do your zealot charge with the charge attack
glossy sparrow
It counts as a sprint?
opal star
go ahead and oneshot that crusher
glossy sparrow
Thats pretty neat
If i dont have room to charge whats the regular kill charger combo
Crusher
cold crow
what are the dump stats on duelign blade?
royal vortex
What H level are you
we're playing a 30 rn
opal star
If i dont have room to charge whats the regular kill charger combo
for the mk10, heavy heavy light I think
fleet zealot
what are the dump stats on duelign blade?
mobility, or penetration with uncanny strike, or cleave targets with mk4 before you get deep into havoc
visual stream
Desperation might be decent on the mk10 relic for PAs, I have yet to try
grand tangle
mobility, or penetration with uncanny strike, or cleave targets with mk4 before ...
why dump penetration
opal star
uncanny strike gives you a gorillion rending already
grand tangle
more penetration more better
green steppe
which relic blade is better?
sterile basalt
Desperation might be decent on the mk10 relic for PAs, I have yet to try
Nah
U physically can’t spam PA fast enough on it to activate desperation on demand
visual stream
It's not fast and desparation isn't on demand for sure
But if there's a big group of armor in front of you, I imagine it will certainly help
slender sigil
what are the go-to blessings for the relic sword?
median steeple
slender sigil
thanks
fleet zealot
more penetration more better
uncanny strike
grand tangle
uncanny strike
Yeah but why not both
visual stream
what are the go-to blessings for the relic sword?
Counter attack and energy transfer :^)
fleet zealot
because adms past 1.0 are already transfered into damage at 1/4th rate
so you barely lose any damage
like less than 3% if that
opal star
Counter attack and energy transfer :^)
you are going to get that person killed
also 8 second cooldown on those blessings is crazy
fleet zealot
what are the go-to blessings for the relic sword?
cranial rampage---> turn one of these into wrath at high havoc
fleet zealot
also 8 second cooldown on those blessings is crazy
energy transfer is fine if heatsink and energy transfer weren't bugged
it's 5 seconds for a pretty substantial buff
opal star
heatsink bugged
I FUCKING KNEW IT
visual stream
The idea that they tried something new with "Perfect Block"s is really cool but it just does not look impactful enough over other options LMAO
fleet zealot
yea it's not removing charge as fast as it should
it's the attack speed one that sucks
fleet zealot
The idea that they tried something new with "Perfect Block"s is really cool but ...
if it wasn't bugged, i'd argue for energy transfer as an offmeta pick
it's 5/8 seconds and gives a substantial charge economy buff
attack speed is 3/8 seconds for some reason and only 10%
pine steeple
>heatsink bugged
I FUCKING KNEW IT
Fatshark moment
south folio
heatsink isn't bugged; it's intentional that it's supposed to work at reduced efficacy when not locked out
if you look at the code, it's pretty straightforward about checking if you're locked out or not
opal star
booooo
south folio
what's bugged about energy transfer?
fleet zealot
what's bugged about energy transfer?
same thing with heatsink no?
that's what i was told
opal star
fatshark description writers writing up the most inaccurate, abridged tooltips
fleet zealot
reduced efficiency when not locked out
opal star
fleet zealot
tho
visual stream
fatshark description writers writing up the most inaccurate, abridged tooltips
Grenade tinkerer giving stun immunity
The good ol days
opal star
Grenade tinkerer giving stun immunity
fucking WHAT
fleet zealot
i don't doubt that fatshark may have it be working idk, i'm neither a code monkey nor a professional tester
opal star
how
fleet zealot
max spaghetti
north sedge
Thy grenades be swift
visual compass
we're playing a 30 rn
GL trooper, doing 24 rn
red swift
Is it not possible to kick people now? I can't see the option in social settings as party lead
north sedge
Funny thing i was so used to zealot at the time i didn't notice
visual stream
The only reason we have stims now is because we stopped giving all of them to vets running grenade tinkerer
visual stream
Funny thing i was so used to zealot at the time i didn't notice
Same here
slender sigil
why is cranical so good?
drowsy steppe
Thy grenades be swift
the weird days
drowsy steppe
why is cranical so good?
its heat buildup reduction, but most importantly up to 20% increased weakspot damage
basically its own version of bm
fleet zealot
why is cranical so good?
longer charge uptime
with free little bit of damage
20% isn't a ton with a 1.7 finesse ratio but it's still pretty good
quaint rose
do IJ stacks stack on top of each other? (like if you currently have 5 stacks, then hit again for +5 stacks, would you then have 10 stacks? or just 5 refreshed timer)
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
do IJ stacks stack on top of each other? (like if you currently have 5 stacks, t...
have to wait for refresh timer
visual stream
It continues building stacks until the current IJ buff runs out
north sedge
Once ij is triggered that's all you get actively, but stacks build for the next proc
drowsy steppe
The idea that they tried something new with "Perfect Block"s is really cool but ...
I like the idea that theyre pushing a more block oriented gameplay for the weapon but dodging is still op
south folio
that's what i was told
i don't see anything to indicate this but i'm not exactly a programmer
even if it's working properly, -20% heat buildup and +5% heat dissipation is very low value
fleet zealot
i don't see anything to indicate this but i'm not exactly a programmer
even if ...
5*5 is 25% dissipation
visual stream
Just give us a weapon that's the equivalent of Kinetic Deflection for psyker and I'll start blocking tbh
fleet zealot
and does build up stack additively or multiplicatively?
fleet zealot
where's the 5 coming from?
5 second buff
long bluff
Yoo, i just started to use the flame gun, and its FIRE! what blessings and perks would be great to it?
fleet zealot
it's 5 per second right?
visual stream
Actually yeah give us a weapon with one dodge that refreshes once every ten minutes but you can block a crusher overhead with 10% stam loss 
south folio
no, heat dissipation is increasing the passive rate at which you dissipate heat when unempowered
you dissipate ~10.9% heat when unempowered
fleet zealot
no, heat dissipation is increasing the passive rate at which you dissipate heat ...
that's so fatshark
fuck this
south folio
10.9% * 1.05 = whatever
drowsy steppe
Yoo, i just started to use the flame gun, and its FIRE! what blessings and perks...
blaze away + pen flame so you can also burn down crusher packs
fleet zealot
fine i'll go cranial rampage like a good little meta slave
drowsy steppe
thats what I ran immediately lmao
Ive been busy enough to havent been playing any Havoc yet
long bluff
blaze away + pen flame so you can also burn down crusher packs
Roger Roger!
drowsy steppe
damage for dumpstat on flamer
remote lark
There was someone shilling super hard in here for siphon on relic blade
fleet zealot
10.9% * 1.05 = whatever
you've made me so depressed by extension of fatshark
fleet zealot
There was someone shilling super hard in here for siphon on relic blade
yea
i saw him i think
remote lark
It's the same person who was saying throwing knives are bad even outside of havoc
and refused to say why
fleet zealot
remote lark
Aye
heavy arch
was it bait
remote lark
No
Dawn unironically said tk are bad both in and out of havoc
And then refused to elaborate, saying basically noone here was good enough to understand
buoyant magnet
best perks for relic?
remote lark
He's stupid. 🤨
drowsy steppe
Ive known him for awhile
drowsy steppe
even in the same private space
has a really weird better than everyone and everyone is wrong mindset
not fun to talk with
remote lark
can i get some lore on this guy
Dawn is shilling for siphon, which is momentum but worse when momentum is already bad and he was also saying that tk are bad
even outside of havoc
When I pressed him for why he copped out
lunar fable
very wrong
fleet zealot
havoc yes, they fall off like a lot of stuff does
lunar fable
yea imma need a build with immo soon
remote lark
Havoc they still onetap stuff without the pus modifier with annoint
They're still decent
iirc
but yeah sorry I had to make a comment after i saw the siphon argument
rigid lagoon
Plus the perks on the way to knives are pretty good as well
remote lark
that guy's a moron
hit me with a 2-0
Tks bad siphon good
Why? I won't tell you
so real.....
rigid lagoon
Proofs? Everbody knows it
obsidian prairie
Isn’t Dawn a dorncorder
copper hawk
Nop
obtuse solstice
damn 20+ kicking my ass
remote lark
Isn’t Dawn a dorncorder
no
they're dorn if dorn was bad
same ego
worse than me
horrible takes
tanner mentality
if not worse
storm elm
Aight frens how do I set up a Party Finder? I have a Havoc clearance level of 17 and an assignment rank of 1
remote lark
esc > party finder
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r8 the peril bar ( @sullen forge I fixed the funny 0.9999 threshold 👍 )
sullen forge
r8 the peril bar ( <@820414945543716944> I fixed the funny 0.9999 threshold 👍 )
evil ass peril bar that causes you to explode from exploding
very evil
up to no good
light badge
got that warp purple at 85%
remote lark
macron't
left hare
dump stat for runic blade?
remote lark
remote lark
Shork...
light badge
macron't
macro users don't want you to know this but quell canceling is a learnable skill
it's free
you can take the m1's home
I have 1902831 blue orbs
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misty spear
whats the best setup for Relic Blade blessing/perk wise?
obsidian prairie
Pins
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obsidian prairie
You should just put the entire paragraph on your clipboard
And drop it every time someone asks
rigid lagoon
alex jones is doing WHAT now? 🤨
median steeple
- asks gale a question in game chat
- gets ignored
sullen forge
sterile basalt
@sullen forge relic blade overload blessing releases an AoE stagger explosion when u overheat
This stagger is capable of interrupting ragers, and its radius is passively buffed by lethal prox
median steeple
rigid lagoon
personal fan of cranial + wrath/rampage
sullen forge
@median steeple Check in game :)))
obsidian prairie
<@820414945543716944> relic blade overload blessing releases an AoE stagger expl...
Too bad it does 30 damage and borderline zero stagger
sterile basalt
Too bad it does 30 damage and borderline zero stagger
Wdym borderline zero stagger
It stops ragers
I haven’t checked mauler overhead
light badge
stops them?
sterile basalt
Yes
light badge
like mid combo?
sterile basalt
It straight up interrupts their combo
I have video proof I can show when I’m home
light badge
it's still Showstopper tier
rigid lagoon
at the same time, you can just slice through ragers to stop them
sterile basalt
it's still Showstopper tier
I think it’s ok
light badge
doesn't it also instantly nuke 25% overheat too?
sullen forge
@median steeple You see the new enemy they are coming out with in Citadelle?
sterile basalt
Removes 25% heat when it overheats (still is in overheat state)
It makes overheat last a lot shorter
sullen forge
@median steeple Doppelghast, if left alone for too long they turn into Amalgams
sterile basalt
You have like, 5 unpowered swings before you can activate again when you have overload
Roughly same as heatsink blessing
obsidian prairie
It stops ragers
Oh shit news to me
median steeple
<@508465754832633896> Doppelghast, if left alone for too long they turn into Ama...
they look cool
visual stream
This guy lives rent free in my brain for several hours of every day
sterile basalt
Oh shit news to me
I’ve cooked a hilarious amount of ragers with that blessing
As it turns out an infinite cleave stagger blast around yourself is quite funny
I won’t call it meta
But it is very fun
storm elm
Apply to multiple Havoc Parties that would progress my clearance
Declined from all of them
Parties constantly filling up
Set up my own Party
Tfw no one joins
sullen forge
@median steeple I didn't even know about the Wonderweapons
sterile stone
@spare talon You tapping out?
spare talon
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> You tapping out?
we cant make more progress, the host left
so unless we find someone with a 30-35 we arent going anywhere
light badge
I'm down for a few games if anyone's gaming rn
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especially now that my peril gauge is colored properly again
copper hawk
Why the fuck is the weird havoc class unlock thing even in the game
sterile stone
I'm still pissed I got overheaded by a fucking crusher
That just materializes out of a boss
sullen forge
@light badge Join chud
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<@291304964569956355> Join chud
lethal totem
holy fuck who are these morons that join my party then decline the mission
copper hawk
Stupid chud daughter
storm elm
I'm starting to think I might just need to restart my game or something
It takes forever before my requests actually get declined
sterile stone
@spare talon I will say this
Shotguns are fucking phenomenal for dealing with ragers
Sends those little shits cartwheeling backwards
remote lark
What do yall consider high havoc
median steeple
30+
remote lark
I don't think a number was established
sterile stone
30 onward
30 is damnation difficulty
so anything 30 onward is basically high havoc
remote lark
I thought >21 was