zealot-class

[modern lintel]

we need chess and or gambling mini games in the morning star now

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume @modern lintel mb good in 5 mins

[placid fiber]

It's kinda sad they changed some of the things into weapon exclusive ones

[polar nexus]

We need hadron back

[placid fiber]

cause those things they put there were fun

like double shot

[fleet zealot]

we need a drinking minigame but ogryns always win

[merry flume]

nah u good i was peaking and looking at tiktok

[fleet zealot]

which personalities would be light weights tho

psykers as a whole

[placid fiber]

judge, for the lulz

[fleet zealot]

fanatics are already professional alcoholics

[ember yew]

every block is now counted as perfect parry
launch a chain bolt (or whatever it was) on perfect parry
there's a lot of stupid stuff you can do in Chaos Wastes

[placid fiber]

Yeah you had so many fun combos you could get

[merry flume]

perfect parry block as WHC

[ember yew]

could also stack like +50% attack speed

[fleet zealot]

ferret lifting device

[placid fiber]

[merry flume]

i wish i could train a family of ferrets to be my scarf

and they hold hands to stay connected

[terse escarp]

holy baby hello what a thing to wake up to

[fleet zealot]

ferrets aren't really good at holding hands

they have little trex arms

and don't have opposable thumbs

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/haoaddict-agony-gif-594728941091527236

[misty nova]

Peak character design right there

[placid fiber]

YOU KILLED HIM!
YOU BASTTARDDDDD!!!

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[modern lintel]

dip them into the primordial ooze im sure itd sort that out

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-hands-otters-couple-sweet-gif-5445841

learn...

show ur ferrt this gif now...

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/diy-slime-gif-3424609

[merry flume]

frozen aloe gel and green food coloring

[trail mantle]

THE SLOP

[merry flume]

the glorp

[misty nova]

Dungeon Meshi slime

[merry flume]

baka deku slime

[terse escarp]

its.. perfect

[fleet zealot]

count the noodles

[fleet zealot]

why do you have overload

and unarmored

[misty nova]

Does Unarmored help with anything?

[terse escarp]

i like both :)

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH NO

[merry flume]

why do they pick the most uncomfortable spots ever

[polar nexus]

On?

[fleet zealot]

cause they are boneless so it's actually pretty comfortable i guess

[terse escarp]

overload is cool, lets me forget about hte overcharge

[fleet zealot]

just go uhh, heatsink then

or energy transfer

[terse escarp]

thought its bugged?

is rampage solid tho? use it on everything almost

[heady rapids]

yes

[terse escarp]

what would you recommend instead of unarmoured?

ive been running unarmoured n flak on almost everything

[merry flume]

enhance...

[terse escarp]

[tired isle]

Spaghetti

[fleet zealot]

maniac at least

cara, elites, and unyielding all have their uses to

[terse escarp]

ill give maniac a go

[fleet zealot]

rampage is BiS until deep havoc

[terse escarp]

also im using the 2nd variant of the blade, just to try it

[fleet zealot]

cara basically guarantees a raw crusher oneshot with sprint attack+fotf. elites is just generally good

[terse escarp]

BiS?

[fleet zealot]

best in slot

sorry

[terse escarp]

ohhh

[fleet zealot]

mmo speak

[terse escarp]

naw ur good i just havent played mmos much

i learn more nerdspeak

[fleet zealot]

deep havoc goes past auric damn into what i can only describe as auricdamn+ and auricdamn++

so wrath becomes needed

[terse escarp]

auriczamn

[fleet zealot]

because a bruiser is going to have a dozen hitmass

a single bruiser

🙂

[craggy python]

huh havoc doesnt feel that hard

but clearly havoc 14 must be like, malice or smth cos i got a blue laspistol

[fleet zealot]

yea

havoc starts at malice level

and goes up steadily

it does go past auric damn twice fold

[junior helm]

why its red insted of orange?

[lean lark]

havoc 16 is heresy

[fleet zealot]

mod

[lean lark]

havoc 20+ is damnation

[terse escarp]

a mod, i can link it in a 'mo

[tepid sorrel]

11-20 -> heresy scaling before multipliers and etc

1-11 -> malice

[terse escarp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/380

[tepid sorrel]

21+ -> damnation scaling

[flat iris]

is havoc dead on arrival cos i only see one avalible lobby amonsgt ALL of the diffs

[terse escarp]

i just use it to make sure which weapons are perfect

[terse escarp]

i mean considering only hiost gets proper progression and doesnt have to wait a week, people dont really bother

[flat iris]

what...

wtf

[flat iris]

no way that'sa real thing

[craggy python]

does anyone have a screenshot of a high level havoc reward cache? cos mine just shows dia/plasteel/ducats

[terse escarp]

it is, i dont have the deets but basically, if you play with others not as a host, you have to wait til the weekly 'reset' thing for ur havoc lvl to go up

[craggy python]

wtf they're dockets? never realised

[misty portal]

i was just looking for this thats crazy

[terse escarp]

mine is 11, since i played a bunch b4 i knew

[terse escarp]

yw pookie

[flat iris]

this is lame asf

cant find no one on party search and u need 2 ppl minimum

[terse escarp]

need that stim banner, just 4 more stims

[fleet zealot]

non hosts have to wait till end of week for the rank, but your clearance level will update

[terse escarp]

yeh

im probs gonna just join others' parties to lvl up the assist penance

[fleet zealot]

use discord, or set your own party up

[tepid sorrel]

mreep

[terse escarp]

woa mama

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-everybody-go-where-did-it-go-gif-23461874

@rocky nacelle

[rocky nacelle]

un sec

[merry flume]

when i forget how to be normal when im out in publc faded

[rocky nacelle]

LOL

sunglasses trick bro

oldest in the book

[tepid sorrel]

who want to a havoc 🙂

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-vro-cat-vro-running-vro-cat-running-tole-tole-gif-2886654164083325244

[lunar fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1298248978449563709/togif-4.gif

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-saturation-gif-18319744679221066679

[rocky nacelle]

this bowl

let’s just say

https://youtu.be/UTH1VNHLjng?si=MVunqGOsGlkQeZIO

can we ?

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-chopper-chopper-one-piece-crying-crying-meme-gif-26577246

[tepid sorrel]

play darktide with me 🙂

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-piece-is-real-gif-4780727623004835179

[rocky nacelle]

I don’t play with noob testers

lol

💅🏽

[tepid sorrel]

not you idiot

[merry flume]

ive been trying to play darktide for the past 90 minutes but for some reason

[rocky nacelle]

Well he’s in my team

dumbass

💅🏽

[tepid sorrel]

i'm throwing it out to the wind not asking anyone specific

[rocky nacelle]

Alright alright speedrunning this bowl

[tepid sorrel]

🤔

[modern lintel]

what im saying

[lunar fable]

damn

this guy has been eating for an hour and a half

wtf you eating

[spring patrol]

extra rations

[modern lintel]

seems familiar

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-you-know-who-else-my-mom-regular-show-funny-gif-9101122073397073314

[lunar fable]

[rocky nacelle]

Hawaiian fajitas (I had that last night this is a lie)

[rocky nacelle]

Ok I’m on for real

[lunar fable]

frfr?

[winter furnace]

i heart sainted gunslinger

[rocky nacelle]

Yea I’m done with bible s tu dt

Study

[modern lintel]

operative selection detected

[lone matrix]

i wish the gs had brutal momentum

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume @modern lintel https://open.spotify.com/track/3WLDZURekf7uTkyBnEoIni?si=eG65vgT8RPOgS4WaWnVLww&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A37i9dQZF1FoyQGyinuuvRu

y’all wanna vc or nah if not ima just float with fgs

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/drain-gang-drain-bladee-ecco2k-catgirl-gif-25989648

dont matter to me either way

i yap regardless

[modern lintel]

my mic cord might be fucked and buzzing idk

[vast basin]

man gotta love it when your game crashes in a havoc and doesnt give you the option of reconnecting

[rocky nacelle]

xbox authentic experience

peak

[vast basin]

what a great game mode fat shark has implemented /s

[merry flume]

are you playing modded

[vast basin]

yeah I guess its my fault in that case

[winter furnace]

i think the people in that game may have died immidietly

[vast basin]

eh they werent bad so I doubt iit

and it still says the havoc game is in progress

[winter furnace]

oh ok then rip

[cloud sparrow]

what are best stat distribution and blessings for new sword?

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[lean lark]

mobility 60 everything else 80

[fleet zealot]

havoc is fun asf

on 21

[frosty wave]

Haven't had much time to read through the bug fixes, has the bug with the immolation grenade penance been fixed yet?

[marble maple]

how do I kill crusher with heavy eviscerator?

[polar nexus]

If I stop playing havoc for several weeks, do I need to grind all over again to host mission?

[craggy python]

i hit hl 16? i need harder

[polar nexus]

Rev and press f

[craggy python]

but its cool

[hard nexus]

chastise while in the sawing animation

[craggy python]

i wonder when the cosmetics will start dropping though cos its gonna be a slog for me HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[hard nexus]

and the mk15 with +carapace can one shot on a crit heavy rev

without chastise

[marble maple]

chastise?

[hard nexus]

fury of the faithful

the charge ability

[marble maple]

oh I use the support one

[hard nexus]

chorus

[marble maple]

yeah that one

[hard nexus]

then chain weapons are gonna be a lot weaker

they’ll still work but

not as well

[hard nexus]

which evis are you using?

[marble maple]

MK III

and also using quickdraw revolver

[hard nexus]

hrm

[hard nexus]

i can give u a build

for chorus

[lunar fable]

[marble maple]

yes pls

[bitter charm]

you guys exited for level 30 Havoc shooters?

[hard nexus]

the talent tree has one point remaining

you can either put it into a chorus modifier node (wouldn’t really recommend), anoint in blood, good balance, or drop TWBS to take sustained assault

if you drop TWBS, you can drop dance of death as well due to revolver

and that can go into any of the other things i mentioned

[dusty hull]

Is Overload good on the new sword?

[hard nexus]

it’s light stagger and 30 damage

so unfortunately no

[dusty hull]

Right

So what would be the best blessings for it?

[lunar fable]

hmm

temporary fix for 9999

[zealous basin]

i cant believe fatshark finally cooked

[zealous basin]

is it double damage

i've got a feeling its double damage

[hard nexus]

rampage, energy leakage, cranial grounding, heatsink

wrath

[lean lark]

it works fully

[zealous basin]

does heatsink even work

[lean lark]

played 6 games in a row with diff parties

no 9999

[zealous basin]

i tried it and i didnt notice shit

[lean lark]

it doesnt stack infinitely

[zealous basin]

with piety obvs

[dusty hull]

I've been using it but it doesn't stack

[solar marten]

what cosmetic set is that

[dusty hull]

So it's not infinite heat cd

[lean lark]

you just have a permanent 2.5% heat removal

per second

[zealous basin]

yeah i think i will go rampage energy leak

like a good boy

[lean lark]

if you want to damagemax yeah

leakage syphon is my go-to as of now

[zealous basin]

[lean lark]

godmode is nice

[dusty terrace]

https://ifunny.co/video/nMqIeSOyB?s=u

[zealous basin]

anyways fuck i love relic sword

fatshark went off

its perfect

[low gulch]

Anyone know what it means when the group title in havoc is only like: Havoc (+2)? What does the +2 mean?

[dusty hull]

I love how it feels to use

The animations, the sounds, the look

[edgy plaza]

Time for a Saber Excalibur Build

[hard nexus]

i just wish relic blade was a bit faster

and the dodges were better

that’s really it

[lean lark]

yeah relic sword is very very good

one of the best zeal weapons rn

[edgy plaza]

Is it only 4 dodge with 60%? I’m still at Mastery 16 so my mobility is low

[hard nexus]

yah 4 dodges

[zealous basin]

the dodges do be cheeks

but thats okay

i was playing martyrdom a bit with it

swishswishswishswishswish

[frosty herald]

This is why you main slower weapons

[zealous basin]

most of my playtime is evi so

ez switch

[lean lark]

the dodges are good

no ij issue

[zealous basin]

i didnt look at stats but they felt short

[edgy plaza]

Yeah I’ve been at three dodges as I’ve been leveling in Havoc and it’s definitely cheeks haha but it’s a super fun weapon I’ve only ever used Catachan swords prior to the Greatsword release

[hollow dove]

The weird feeling when i'm all out of dockets but got thousands of plasteel

I just want more brunts for mastery penances D:

[frozen trench]

I like Martydom, but man you can notice the immobility without IJ

[midnight cape]

Whats the difference between the two marks on the new zealot claymore?

[frozen trench]

IJ helps with dodge

[hard nexus]

even with IJ they feel awful

idk why

[hollow dove]

mk2 has overhead lights and horizontal heavies, mk10 has the opposite

[fleet zealot]

it's just the "worst" tier of dodges

[hard nexus]

i main evis without IJ and it’s got the same listed stat for dodge distance

[frozen trench]

MK X got simpler chains and simple single target openers

MK 2 got complex chains and complex openers

MK 2 got two fast overhead lights

I like that, but MK 10 got push attack stab into overhead heavy into light stab

Fun learning curve to it

But man I wish there was more blessing diversity

[north sedge]

Mk2 uppercut does bonus dmg too

[frozen trench]

Does it now?

On what? Just the dmg numbers or is the finesse curve fat and hard hitting

If that’s the case I’m going out of my way to learn the MK 2 combos

[marble maple]

should I buy this and upgrade it later

[fleet zealot]

wrath on relic blade is 50* 5

[modern jasper]

Lets gooooo

No skin tho rip

[modern jasper]

yes

[trail mantle]

I have the skin for mine, should be there

[modern jasper]

Oh nvm there is a skin I'm silly

[frozen trench]

I wish this blessing rewarded the charging heat, more dispersed damage if there’s no interruption to the build up, maybe once the gauge hit the limit the next attack would explode on hit into lock out

30 dmg in a aoe radius localized off your character instead of off the weapon dispersing it in a hit makes me sad

[mossy tulip]

anyone know if more heat is spent on heavies vs lights

[mossy tulip]

or if its constant

i cant even tell

the bar is so bad

[marble maple]

wish it's the dmg that are max 80%

[frozen trench]

Praying modders add a numerical widget for it

[grand tangle]

its perfect

[marble maple]

got another one

[mossy tulip]

just roll unntil you get all 80s and 60 mob

[marble maple]

I did

[mossy tulip]

not worth wasting plasteel on a non perfect weapon anymore

[marble maple]

and I get all 80 except pen

[grand tangle]

im thinking heatsink+cranial is best on relic sword

[frozen trench]

Pen is needed my man, helps with armoured units

[grand tangle]

not sure yet but keeping charge up longer sounds good to me

[marble maple]

ok

[grand tangle]

you wanna dump mobility or reload on revolver

reload if you are using the quickoad one

[stray talon]

Reload?

Oh

[grand tangle]

it already reloads plenty fast imo

[marble maple]

almost perfect

can I somehow get it to 80 on that reload

[grand tangle]

you can run that if you want

[frozen trench]

I meaaaan

[grand tangle]

max dmg

[frozen trench]

You can do that

[stray talon]

Thats pretty good

[frozen trench]

Only bothers ocd people

[stray talon]

If you are hurting for cash run it

[frozen trench]

80, 80, 80 in the dmg stats is what matters

[marble maple]

ok

[stray talon]

its pretty easy to get ‘perfect’ rolls imo

[frozen trench]

Dmg, pen and crit dmg are them numbers to worry abt on the revolver

[solar marten]

gang i understand the hate for lightning psykers now

[frozen trench]

As crit bonus gives you bonus crit chance

[frozen trench]

Rip second wind toughness regen

[marble maple]

[solar marten]

literally dies every 3 minutes

[stray talon]

Wdym my power claymore loves killstealing stunlocked elites

[solar marten]

they keep dying

[marble maple]

what mk should I use on this

[solid current]

ummm am i stupid

[marble maple]

MK IIa?

[solid current]

why is havoc locked after a few maelstroms

[solar marten]

press e to clear search then choose

i think

or i or smth like that

[solid current]

peam

that worked ty hero

[rigid lagoon]

For my relic, i'm mixing around between cranial and rampage/wrath, with elite + flak

[stray talon]

Try them in the psykanium

They shoot different

[frozen trench]

The zarona vs Agripinaa varies, zarona revolver is very solid for picking specialists and gunners, your melee should answer everything else

The zarona is meant to pick off problems before they happen

[hollow dove]

agri revolver is very whelming

[grand tangle]

agri is more fun but less powerful

unless you magdump

[north cloak]

agri is funny but kinda weak

[grand tangle]

needs more base dmg tbh

[stray talon]

I run zarona as a sniper

[grand tangle]

thats all

[frozen trench]

Agri revolver wins with style, but less shots is more so zarona is beneficial

[frozen trench]

Run and gun enjoyer?

[marble maple]

ok I will level it up abit more so I can change to that variant

these are good right?

[frozen trench]

Yeah those are solid

[marble maple]

[grand tangle]

not bad choices

[frozen trench]

Work on developing game sense

[marble maple]

I blow like 60k on reroll the revolver

[frozen trench]

Golden rule is prioritizing removing nets on disabled allies

Go out of your way to do it

[solar marten]

real

[stray talon]

Never tried it tbh

[marble maple]

well it just blue but I need everything I can get xd

[frozen trench]

Fun on the Agripinaa, wasted on zarona

[steel agate]

better than no toughness curio

[solar marten]

whats the max a thing can rollo n main stat for trinket

[frozen trench]

The braced aim gets the hip fire spread decrease run and gun has

[stray talon]

Really?

[frozen trench]

Yeah

[stray talon]

Thats interesting

[frozen trench]

Run and gun is solid on bolt pistol for that reason

[stray talon]

Gunslinging priest

[rigid lagoon]

3 on stamina, 21 on health, 17 on toughnrss

[frozen trench]

Easier to hip fire than to play for the realigning ads from the recoil jump on the bolter pistol

[stray talon]

Hmm

[rigid lagoon]

Although, you should settle for 20 health and 16 toughness since the last perventage is so rare

[split ibex]

Careful there, big guy. You'll cut yourself

[stray talon]

Ive tried running bolt pistol as a mid to long range and it kinda works

[buoyant dirge]

anyone know meta flamer perks/blessings?

[stray talon]

I wish the close range exploding enemy blessing was more impactful

[fleet zealot]

it is

for nades

and crusher

[frozen trench]

Bolt pistol is my fav because of lethal proximity, it increases your explosion radius even if you don’t have the weapon equipped

YES CRUSHER IS A SOLID USE FOR LP BP

[nimble fiber]

bread

[stray talon]

Explosion radius?

[frozen trench]

The aoe special on the crusher gets the 25% explosion radius increase from the bolt pistol

[stray talon]

Im about to rebless my bolt pistol yall lol

[frozen trench]

Idk if they changed it but the stagger range adds up

Idk if it’s placebo but my activated crusher swings feel wider with LP bolt pistol

Veteran has the strongest use for LP bolt pistol with grenade tinker and shredder frag

[radiant nacelle]

Okay gang how's the new sword

[frozen trench]

Zealot just has crusher and stunstorm explosion benefits from LP blessing

[radiant nacelle]

Fill me in

[frozen trench]

Fun and dynamic

[lean lark]

very good very fun

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-loaf-gif-26074269

[frozen trench]

If you played executioner sword in vermintide 2, it itches the same feeling

[radiant nacelle]

But does it beat chainsword for cleave/horde murder?

[frozen trench]

Beats it in style points vs elites

[lean lark]

its better than hsword

[radiant nacelle]

I dunno, revving elites is pretty stylish. I'll have to check it out

Hsword is butt

Chainsword is life

[frozen trench]

Variety is the spice of life

[radiant nacelle]

It is indeed

[stray talon]

The power sword is amazing

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-cat-sandwich-sandwich-cat-food-cat-tiny-kitten-gif-25788888

[frozen trench]

Different weapons are new ways to enjoy the game

Different habits and skills are improved with different weapons

[tropic pelican]

i like that it blocks during activation

why doesnt vet psword get that

[frozen trench]

You don’t want to get stagnant with a weapon you’ve already mastered

Explore and limit test different options

[fast iron]

are zealot and psykers friends now cause we both got cool swords :3

[radiant nacelle]

Ooh, bigger question. How's flamer? Did they fix overpressure?

[tropic pelican]

i also like that the relic sword is incredibly loud

[stray talon]

I agree with you while only playing thammer a psword

[placid dirge]

Hi, What's the dumpstat on the new sword for zealot ?

[frozen trench]

Zealot uniques making loud crunching visceral sounds is S Tier sound design

[lean lark]

mobility

[placid dirge]

Just as I figured

Thank you :)

[light badge]

Good morning chatters

[frozen trench]

Thammer, crusher, eviscerator and relic sword got awesome sound effects

[lunar fable]

my assignment is still not matching up with my party

[tropic pelican]

it won't, everyone gets different

[frozen trench]

I LOVE THE SOUND OF A GIANT BLADE HONING WITH A SHARP WEIGHT AND TWINGE

[lunar fable]

that's my own party

not somebody else's

[frozen trench]

The draw and slicing sounds of the relic blade is peak

[tropic pelican]

yeah, people in your party have their own

[winter furnace]

i heart purg flamer

[tropic pelican]

they just join yours

[lunar fable]

i don't think you understand

when you host a party it should show your mission

[rocky nacelle]

ive come to say

[winter furnace]

true

[rocky nacelle]

CiVI with the FGS

is peak

[north cloak]

if you mean the party finder tags thise are broken I think

[rocky nacelle]

this and a FGS

[tropic pelican]

huh, wack

[rocky nacelle]

🤌

[frozen trench]

Like ya ever just hear the unempowered audio of the blade echoing its hone

[lunar fable]

pretty sure the mess caused by the 9999 error

is what broke my tag

[hard nexus]

this, a beer, and a cigarette

[rocky nacelle]

and you shhuttdding up

[rigid lagoon]

Yeh, party finder is still pretty much useless

[rocky nacelle]

yep

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-sword-cigarette-knight-jtb8033-gif-15748561329741974891

[rocky nacelle]

good life

[winter furnace]

never heard anything realer

[rocky nacelle]

all a man needs

is a blunt

a philly cheese steak

and some head

[winter furnace]

this is what my darktide gameplayl ooks like

[rocky nacelle]

💯

[lunar fable]

funny plant

[frozen trench]

The classic European breakfast is the cig and black coffee

[hard nexus]

and a woman

[frozen trench]

Today we starve ourselves

[hard nexus]

i think that’d fix me tbh

[hollow dove]

Hell yeah

[rocky nacelle]

true i guess chicks want head too

[winter furnace]

real

[hollow dove]

cig, coffee and a trip to the shitter

[rocky nacelle]

@ dorn

[violet hornet]

Fucking naked ass potatoes

[lunar fable]

mmm

british cuisine

[frozen trench]

Don’t ruin nicotine and caffeine for me, I don’t want to relate to dorn in anyway, I might start balding

[rocky nacelle]

@hard nexus

[nimble fiber]

u do what to the naked ass potatoes?

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

he’s so me

[violet hornet]

Uhh dress them of course, certainly not anything lewd

[lean lark]

not a fan of this new dilemma for havoc as zealot

[violet hornet]

[serene geyser]

should i just run martyrdom with relic blade?

[frozen trench]

Stat sticking solves mobility issues

[lean lark]

you either run chorus beacon of purity to support your team and keep them alive or run your damage setup

in party finder

[frozen trench]

Don’t need to burn all your dodges if they all die

[serene geyser]

what is stat sticking

[frozen trench]

Basically having a lot of numbers on your side, martydom gives damage and attack speed to just whirlwind on the haters

[lunar fable]

[spiral mirage]

yo what do you guys have for perks and blessings for the relic blade

[serene geyser]

blade version or stun nade version you think?

[violet hornet]

I thought the dilemma was more either run a weapon you're already good with and power through them or run the new gs and fuck around since it's as difficult as high int malice

[lean lark]

leakage+rampage is good too

[frozen trench]

Carapace and Unyielding/Elites feel good as perks

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/negawatt-nega-watt-gif-925117326718678952

[rigid lagoon]

Cranial + wrath (sometimes rampage knstead)

[frozen trench]

Leakage fun? I want incentive to branch into more blessings

[lean lark]

if you know to manage your heat

you just have a permanent 15% power

which gives you every breakpoint you need

[flat iris]

the mk3 relic sword makes me cream

[serene geyser]

do you need the blades for elites or should you go stun?

[lean lark]

immolation nade

[lunar fable]

hidden relic sword mark

[lean lark]

tknives wont work in havoc

[frozen trench]

I clear house a lot with the relic blade that I forget to use grenades

[violet hornet]

Are you butter?

[lean lark]

stun is pointless since enemies will get stagger immune

[spiral mirage]

Is this mark dependent or can I just like slap it on any mark

[frozen trench]

Immolation is probably useful

[lean lark]

any mark

[serene geyser]

you got an image of what that build looks like maybe?

[lean lark]

immolation is meta

[lean lark]

i can share my dmg build

[spiral mirage]

cool thanks

[serene geyser]

damn immo is meta now huh

[lean lark]

havent made a chorus one yet

[serene geyser]

things have changed

[polar nexus]

Animation cancel tech

[lean lark]

always has been

[lean lark]

dogshit

[serene geyser]

secretly maybe

[polar nexus]

No

[flat iris]

always has been

[frozen trench]

Yeah ngl, I need to clear the 2000 immo kills to finish my zealot sticker book

[serene geyser]

ya hit me pls

[frozen trench]

So hit me up with the immo relic build

[lean lark]

17% tough + 5% tough +5% maxhp *3

for curios

[serene geyser]

should i swap all my two hand builds to immo as well?

[brave plover]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woodpecker-winnie-woodpecker-winnie-impatient-dubious-gif-13580124

[lean lark]

i run 2 gunner res and 1 corruption res

[frozen trench]

So when it comes to toughness regen, what’s the main source for it?

I rely on second wind a lot as a crutch

[lean lark]

syphon+ewew

[frozen trench]

Ok ok

[lean lark]

this build is somewhat personalized to fit my playstyle though so might not work that well for you

[frozen trench]

Yeah, I can adapt

[tired isle]

Is it worth it to sacrifice damage for toughness?

[frozen trench]

I just want to use blessings that I perceive that would be fun

[tired isle]

Fair

[lean lark]

you can swap syphon for rampage and go this instead

to fully spec into dmg

[frozen trench]

Added bonus for me to use immo to chip away at that 2000 kills penance

Man I wish that stagger strength talent was placed better

I wanna play around with the MK 2 light attacks

[marble maple]

should I start doing mission on heresy now or should I wait til lvl 20+ first

[lean lark]

yeah its actually very good for handling ragers

[marble maple]

currently my zealot lvl 17

[lean lark]

yeah

[frozen trench]

Play to improve, heresy is a good intro into the way the game is, ranged units being a problem hammers a lot of bad habits out

Go at your own pace and enjoy yourself, don’t let other players discourage you if they berate you for trying to adapt to the fun challenge of the game

That starts at heresy

Some people forget where we started

[hard nexus]

only if you’re playing havoc

high level havoc

[frozen trench]

Christ I wish our community had the same approach as the DRG community

[hard nexus]

immo grenades are only meta in havoc because stun and tknives are both essentially useless in high level havoc

also, dawn’s builds are not good lol

[lunar fable]

the drg community is a rare pull

[frosty herald]

How does stun become bad in havoc?

[hard nexus]

actually nvm stuns are good too

sry

was wrong

[lean lark]

stagger immunity

[hard nexus]

i was wrong

[frosty herald]

Lol

[ripe tangle]

Anyone wanna play havoc, lvl 350

[frosty herald]

Just throw a stun into a gunner horde

[frozen trench]

Coop games should attract cooperative players, the focus on the ego contest of who’s the best is just elitism and that kills player engagement and longevity of a games life cycle

[tidal berry]

hard to get mad when there is nothing at stake

[lean lark]

nothings at stake in darktide either

[frozen trench]

There’s nothing at stake in Darktide either

[tidal berry]

there is, my fragile ego

[lean lark]

until havoc at least since if you lose 3 times in a row you "derank"

[frozen trench]

Your ego looks way cooler if you take yourself less seriously

[tidal berry]

also its tone deaf to think this with the amount of community conflict

[frozen trench]

Being a fun person is aura

[rocky nacelle]

me

[lunar fable]

what

man my game is messed up

[tidal berry]

like, the ''don't nerf only buff'' mentality, or the whole soyker debate, the erosion of challenge and its consequesnces for soytide, Idk man a lot of stuff to get mad over lol

[frozen trench]

SO FUCKING TRUE

[lunar fable]

i did that second auric mael for nothing

cause it kept my progress from before that

smh

[gray echo]

is there a shitpost somewhere ?

[serene geyser]

soytide lmao

[half lark]

would the dump stat for the relic blade be mobility or heat management?

[north sedge]

Always be dumping mobility

[naive stirrup]

stun is a different debuff than stagger is

[winged vessel]

Mobility

[frozen trench]

Soytide is taking the chuds seriously who wanna be the face of authority and game knowledge

Bro i don’t care abt your words man

[half lark]

alr thanx y'all

[tidal berry]

I don't want knowledge I don't want mutual understanding I want problems always

[frozen trench]

It ain’t abt you bruv

[tidal berry]

grrr

I'm so quirky

[serene geyser]

i just want my build to be good for the two handed sword

this soy vernacular is beneath me

[left elk]

Oh wow the awards for Havoc are surely amazing guys… I guess it’s worth doing just for the funsies heheh

[frozen trench]

I’m not talking about anyone specifically, I’m just highlighting ridiculous contradicting behaviour

[meager fern]

What's the dump stat on new sword?

[frozen trench]

Mobility

[winged vessel]

The hats are the best part

[serene geyser]

someone said dawn build is wack post ur build then

i shall simply steal it and compare

[naive stirrup]

i was lookin at what they were saying
the simple fact that he thinks stagger immunity applies to stunstorm grenades tells me all i need to know

[serene geyser]

purple name does seem powerful in this case

whatchu running on relic

[hard nexus]

for stunstorms

[naive stirrup]

still building it but it'll more or less be what's pinned

[serene geyser]

ty all

[frosty herald]

noob

[hard nexus]

:(

why

why am i noob

[serene geyser]

stunstorms are necessary noob denial tools when you got friends like mine

[frosty herald]

you posted a build that is frankly so innefecient i hope you get banned for it

[naive stirrup]

havok 40 may actually require them lol. knives won't be that useful that high up

[serene geyser]

hell yeah knives are swag

hmm

[fleet zealot]

yea

[serene geyser]

that's a shame knives are very fun

[craggy valve]

So how's everyone feeling about the power sword? I tried it a couple of games, and I can't get over its dogshit mobility.

[frosty herald]

let me tell you a fun fact

[hard nexus]

how is it inefficient

[left elk]

Not every gun has to have dueling sword level mobility okay?

[frosty herald]

with pus hardened skin it will take 6 knives to kill a trapper with headshots

[fleet zealot]

immos and stuns are going to be more powerful as havoc goes up

[fleet zealot]

it's a good weapon

i rank it between evi and crusher

in power

[frozen trench]

IJ can help with dodge timing resets

[frosty herald]

swap to scourge

[craggy valve]

Ok. Nobody ever made that argument.

[naive stirrup]

stuns will be infinitely more more useful though. immo has always been mid

[hard nexus]

is that it

[frosty herald]

yes

[hard nexus]

is that the sole change

LMFAO

[frosty herald]

it hurts my eyes

:(

[zealous basin]

just slide with relic sword bro

just sliiiide

[left elk]

Dueling sword and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the darkclick race

[frozen glen]

shut the fuck up flip

[frozen trench]

So fucking true

[tidal berry]

I have a relic build specifically for friends lul

[zealous basin]

:(

[frozen glen]

you are complete ASS

[fleet zealot]

i think immo is good just for how long mobs can bake

[fast iron]

i hate anyone who uses flame grenades on zealot

not because it's bad

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-sad-gif-7665037946252186318

[fleet zealot]

and cleave is important in high havoc

[fast iron]

it's because i can't tell whether or not it'll damage me

[fleet zealot]

immo, flamer

[frosty herald]

every single source of DOT is good in havok

[fleet zealot]

all going to be better

[frosty herald]

any source of damage that ignores damage resistance is good

[fleet zealot]

since bruisers are going to have 12 hitmass and chaff will have 6

[craggy valve]

If the flames are golden, they won't damage you.

[frosty herald]

purgatus and flamer shine in havoc

[valid kindle]

Idk how to use the relic sword. I feel slow and suck at it lmao

:)

[zealous basin]

kill them first

[fleet zealot]

the zealot one is extremely gold/yellow tho

[winged vessel]

why have i not seen a single ogryn ever since havoc dropped

[zealous basin]

and u dont need to be fast

[frosty herald]

they got skill issued

[fleet zealot]

i had an ogryn

in my 20

[fast iron]

hmm is there another flamey thing that doesn't hurt you and is red

[winged vessel]

why did ogryns stop existing

[frosty herald]

i do see ogryns in havoc

[fleet zealot]

he was pretty good

[naive stirrup]

inferno staff psykers are going to be very good

[frozen glen]

all the ogryns are on reddit

[fleet zealot]

nope

zealot fire is always yellow

[frozen trench]

Learn how to get into weapon combos and apply the best combos that fit that scenario

[fleet zealot]

aggresively so

[zealous basin]

gotem

[plucky gate]

Now that gunners don't stun anymore, I run this on some builds
Never thought i'd see the day

[frosty herald]

remember ogryn playtesters play on malice according to mister E

[lean lark]

had a gunlug ogryn in havoc 26

he was very good

[fleet zealot]

yea, relic sword is def good enough for high aurics

you gotta go wrath tho

vs 21st or anything past 30

[frosty herald]

i think that the heavy stubber achlys shines in havoc because of insane headshot crit damage

[valid kindle]

I’ve been hard carried by the toothpick

[winged vessel]

yeah but if mister e said it doesnt that mean its wrong

[fleet zealot]

it has high minimum damage so wrath actually helps when everything has a shit ton of mass

[lean lark]

it wont work after a certain point

[winged vessel]

so the ogryn testers actually played damnation!

[frosty herald]

yes

[lean lark]

ammo from ammo packs get reduced very heavily

[hard nexus]

yah that’s also valid

[frosty herald]

why would they ever play on malice for testing when you need damnation health numbers for balancing

[winged vessel]

see so mister e was onto nothing

[plucky gate]

imagine balancing

just put in random numbers

surely nothing will go wrong

[winged vessel]

[fleet zealot]

makes sense

smite buffed randomly

shredder ignored (it feels fine in malice)

[tame sluice]

I'm certain y'all have already noticed, but you're actually blocking when you activate the new power sword

https://imgur.com/a/RGqILl4

[frosty herald]

Im sure not even fatshark knows what to do with shredder

[hard nexus]

not a single change to the mk3 evis

[winged vessel]

its time to abbandon the ways of faith and train myself to play psyker again

[hard nexus]

i’m going to bitch about the mk3 evis forever

i’m sorry if it’s annoying but

[winged vessel]

melee psyker is so real.

[hard nexus]

i probably will not stop

[winged vessel]

it will be kept bad on purpose

[frosty herald]

Please push attack heavy

[fleet zealot]

yep

[frosty herald]

And use the mk8

[fleet zealot]

it's pretty useful

[spare dome]

sick

[frosty herald]

It has a better moveset

[winged vessel]

yes i know the stab does godly single target damage

i know

[tame sluice]

yeah especially since it has such high stagger so you don't need to be pushing to manage crowds anyways

[fleet zealot]

ehh, i still push

[tame sluice]

Maybe I'll actually give a gimmicky block blessing a try for once

[mental coral]

no more TWBS perma pick anymore?

[fleet zealot]

the PA is good for ragers

(unless we aren't talking about mk10 relic)

[fleet zealot]

it's less of

since gunner and reaper stun was removed

[zealous basin]

twbs is for doing auspex without getting stunned

[fleet zealot]

it's still good for chain weapons and thrust weapons

[zealous basin]

CMV

oh yeah and those

idk. whatever. relic swors gang

[spare dome]

its so i can endlessly chain needles into my arm without those filthy heretics stopping me

[zealous basin]

based

[spare dome]

if they hit me it just makes me do drugs faster

also true for children

[fleet zealot]

the only thing about greatsword is sometimes i get combo dizzy

[fast iron]

yay :3

freet

[fleet zealot]

mostly locking myself into h1 or h2 by accident

[fast iron]

i'm leaving that typo

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/furret-pokemon-shiny-sentret-shiny-furret-gif-14706664

[plucky gate]

I would only consider grabbing it for slow weapons now. Very low value for something like dueling sword imo

[quiet spruce]

slippery floor

[fleet zealot]

swan dive

6/10

[fast iron]

when you see everyone has a greatsword except one zealot

sad

[unkempt olive]

good for him

[lunar fable]

yippee

beat a ds4 with my relic blade

[mental coral]

I mean, I didn't have it on my ds4 build to begin with lol. But I still use it on all the other weapons

Prob will swap off it on my marty hsword build then

[plucky gate]

well now your ds4 build is even better then!

hsword probably doesn't need it anymore yeah

[mental coral]

I still use blazing piety on my ds4 build tbh and I do wonder if it would be better off using stalwart

[radiant nacelle]

TWBS always felt like a trap to me

Git gud instead

[lusty turtle]

@vocal pulsar you should join my party instead of yoshi and arco frfr

the cooler havok party

[plucky gate]

twbs was good for using chastise into gunners and killing them
Now it doesn't matter

[radiant nacelle]

That was a good use case yeah

But meh

[mental coral]

Cuz this is what I'm using for ds4 but eh? Prob don't actually need all that crit on ds4

[plucky gate]

For me now, the only twbs consideration for me is like, THammer and Evis, and that's still a "maybe"

[lean lark]

fuck man they havent hotfixed the relic blade crash

[mental coral]

theres a crash tied to relic blade?

[lean lark]

yeah

[craggy valve]

God I hate the throwing knives.

[radiant nacelle]

Yeah I use chainsword so I don't need the mobility anyway. I guess I see it for slower weapons but whatever

[lean lark]

blocking while interacting with something using relic blade crashes you

instantly

[frozen glen]

blame the playtesters

yet again

[lean lark]

true

[plucky gate]

lmao

[lean lark]

they hotfixed it crashing the entire server

so it only crashes yourself thankfully

[plucky gate]

oh wait did they fix the 9999 thing?

[lean lark]

yes

[plucky gate]

I had my hosting priviledges bricked by it yesterday

[lean lark]

it took me i think an hour or something to find a working havoc20+ team

before they fixed it

[south folio]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-gif-26347862

[vast veldt]

cries in wanting napalm grenades back

[vast veldt]

whats the best blessing for the new relic blade again?

[lean lark]

leakage+syphon/rampage

[vast veldt]

i know one was cranial

[lean lark]

cranial works too

[vast veldt]

oh is it

[ember yew]

i just

crashed with this error like 2 minutes ago

https://tenor.com/view/billy-gif-22770746

seems like those swords are cursed

[stray talon]

so now we have demon possessed relic blades?

sign me up

#heresy

[ember yew]

its sad that syphon is just a shittier version of momentum

[lean lark]

yeah its balanced for relic blade

[ember yew]

i just saw a book

with loner

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-wth-what-the-hell-was-that-confused-gif-4720874

[rocky nacelle]

@light badge

https://tenor.com/view/rise-and-shine-gif-24754829

[radiant nacelle]

How is flamer nowadays? Is overpressure fixed? New blessings cool?

[arctic coral]

good blessing combos for relic blade?

[spare talon]

Cranial and rampage/heatsink

[winged vessel]

the cranial one
rampage
heatsink
and you will usually need wrath in havoc

[spare talon]

I wanted it to be different

[lunar fable]

@hearty nebula

drugs

[arctic coral]

is cranial that good? does it reset if you miss a weakspot?

[spare talon]

No

[lean lark]

cranial isnt that good

rather have leakage than cranial

[spare talon]

It's both a "damage mode gooder for longer" and a minor damage buff in one blessing

[winged vessel]

drug overuse penance

[spare talon]

And it has very high uptime because it has a very easy way of proccing

[winged vessel]

the powergsword has made me appreciate how good celerity stimms are

[opal star]

society if varlets used any stimm other than med

https://tenor.com/view/society-if-gif-22696824

[tired isle]

Is cranial+rampage good for the Mark 2?

[radiant nacelle]

Damage stimm plus flamer mmmmmm

[lunar fable]

love me combat stims

red 40 yummy

[winged vessel]

add random chance for a med stimm to be corrupted and it instakills you

turning you into a poxwalker

[spare talon]

Yes

[ancient moth]

I ended up leaning heatsink/rampage, some say cranial over heatsink but so far it seems like heatsink helps more with heat reduction than cranial

[lunar fable]

HOT MIC IN PARTY

found the console gamer

[arctic coral]

I'm running heatsink/leakage, just wanted to know what others think

[spare talon]

This just isn't the case tbh
Cranial does end up reducing build up more than headsink

The only thing headsink does better is help reduce it when it's off by a little bit

[ancient moth]

part of me is wondering based on the wording if the % heat reduction from cranial is a flat percentage reduction or a stacking percentage reduction of the heat being added (i.e. 20% reduction in 10 heat generation per second to 8 heat generation per second)

I don't have the hard numbers to test, but based on the bar visual and the wording it seems to me like it's the latter?

[lean lark]

did anyone get the insignia for 10 havocs

i dont see it in my insignia inventory

[ancient moth]

the way it's worded is very odd - reduced heat buildup by 6% and increases weakspot damage for 3s, stacking to 5, okay

does that mean it's an instant 6% reduction of heat on weakspot hit and the damage increase is the 3s stacking part? Or, does 6% stack 5 times for a 30% reduction in heat buildup? (i.e. from say 10 heat/sec to 7 heat/sec)

[light badge]

I finally found it

a build that has smite in it that isn't complete dog ass

[ancient moth]

the instant 6% reduction on weakspot would be incredibly strong and the blessing just doesn't seem to affect it that much based on purely anecdotal evaluation, but the weakspot damage isn't insignificant either so....need to test more I guess

[spare talon]

its not an instant reduction, its a 6% reduction in how much is generated

which applies to both passive generation and generation from attacks

[light badge]

@rocky nacelle @sullen forge judgement

[ancient moth]

so theoretically it takes 30% longer to fill the heat gauge, so going from like say 6s to 8s of uptime

[frozen glen]

tax node smite

[warm moth]

Does that work well with the new sword?

[lunar fable]

AMAZING

the hot mic ogryn

pushed up

died

and then the other two left the game while i clutched

and then my game crashed

[light badge]

literally

[spare talon]

yes

[lunar fable]

peak gaming

[half lark]

ah. i've also intended to try the las pistol with it today.

[ancient moth]

for heatsink it's more or less a 3.33% flat reduction per second as each kill refreshes the duration

[light badge]

I think I used it exactly once

and that was just to kill a burster that refused to explode

[spare talon]

it takes away 3.33% every second yes

[half lark]

that loadout looks like it could be fun

[ancient moth]

so cranial probably is better then, even if they end up roughly affecting uptime evenly cranial is easier to proc and includes weakspot damage

[spare talon]

yeah that was was the initial reasoning, bigger effect, easier to use, and a cherry on top damage bonus

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle

[spare talon]

if you wanted to stack the to you could for even more uptime, but youd have to sacrifice rampage for that

[lunar fable]

i was about to finish the interrogator part by myself

and then my game crashed

[spare talon]

which honestly you can do, i dont think thats a bad combo

[ember yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1292838228151373834/mario_luigi.gif

FS said no

[ancient moth]

yeah I may try it, rampage is nice but not always consistent for helping with single target when there's not a crowd around

[lean lark]

maintaining more uptime on the relic blade is meaningless if you dont have better damage

if you just go for better damage you wont need to maintain heat as much since they'll all die sooner

its pointless

[spare talon]

i wanted it to be 2-3% toughness regenned on each target hit, with a cap of 10-15%

[rocky nacelle]

blob and co

[median steeple]

zeep zorp

[spare talon]

that is a whole lot more interesting than just momentum but it requires an activation

[ancient moth]

I am starting to enjoy the relic more than I did initially, it has a lot of nuance with things like block push looping into horizontal H3/H4 and block cancel to H1/H2 overheads

[ember yew]

or it could be the same as Ogryns one, when you chain heavy hits

[median steeple]

@rocky nacelle are you doing hav?

[spare talon]

but the relic blades are more combo weapons than most ogryn ones

it wouldnt really work that well

[rocky nacelle]

interesting build to say the least

r u using a staff or a gun

[light badge]

laspistol

which like smite, only came out a few times

[stone fern]

theyre really weak they nee headtaker and brutal momentum smhhhhh

[ember yew]

either way definitely not an inferior version of momentum

[light badge]

mainly for snipers

[rocky nacelle]

not rn but we can

if we get 4

[ember yew]

its basically nerfed momentum

for whatever reason

could be a bit stronger at least

[rocky nacelle]

also what happened @light badge

[light badge]

me playing with new friend

[lunar fable]

squid games

[rocky nacelle]

kk

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-games-squid-game-uncle-ben-spiderman-gif-24416082

@spare talon are u existing

[lunar fable]

this game

just auto accepted a shitter applicant

[median steeple]

wait we got way more titles?

[lunar fable]

for my party

[median steeple]

that title is so cool wth

[lunar fable]

and ofc that crash counted as a loss

[spare talon]

what rank are you even at

[rocky nacelle]

22 remember

I went to pass out

[spare talon]

CRINGE

[rocky nacelle]

says the playtester

sorry we're not at 40

[lunar fable]

what's your assignment rank at

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-walking-ice-bear-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-womp-womp-gif-3112568608170184199

[spare talon]

smh my head

[lunar fable]

oh wait

you never got 9999'd

[stable cypress]

Mine's gonna be at 10 forever b/c I'm just gonna join other people's games

[median steeple]

need someone to host fr

[undone pewter]

Same

I two manned mine then went to bed

[median steeple]

this system sucks jesus

[stable cypress]

Fatshark said "they're looking at it"

[rocky nacelle]

system is bleak

[stable cypress]

b/c yeah who the fuck wants to play lvl10 havoc,

[undone pewter]

Awwww shit

[spare talon]

but i QP up to 25

[stable cypress]

not 16 b/c oop sorry I cleared a maelstrom too early