zealot-class

[ember yew]

but that probably will improve perfomance

so there's still a bonus

[misty nova]

It's okay
The sprint talent was also useless

[twin wagon]

ye the 5th they are getting a hotfix anyway for germany/austria to just limit it to ragdolls

[misty nova]

[winter furnace]

surprised i didnt give IJ a proper shot sooner this is so nice

[frosty herald]

btw they are upset about 15% damage after a reload

[misty nova]

Real

[polar nexus]

i liked them

[twin wagon]

They are upset for having to get toughness and ranged damage

instead of been forced to get braced toughness

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[misty nova]

That 15 damage after reload is also under Pacemaker

Those two talents are made for each other

[frosty herald]

as usual bad players complain about a tree shift when other classes have had things changed or nerfed about them

[ember yew]

speaking of which

[twin wagon]

Bad players stirred by sloptubers with worse takes complain*

[ember yew]

Veteran - received talent tree rework like 2-3 times
Psyker - got one not so long ago
Ogryn - just got some stuff too

||Zealot - HEY, I'M HERE TOO!||

would be funny if FS make it worse

[twin wagon]

nothing can be worse that the state of the forums after a possible DS nerf

[mild yoke]

Genuinely surprised we didnt see a DS nerf this patch

[twin wagon]

too many negative reviews

"censorship"+"ogryn nerf" add in an actual nerf

and the game drops in score by 10%

[polar nexus]

''we don't another psword incident so we decided to nerf the dclaw''

[mild yoke]

Fuck it, buff it, add another mark that gives it devils claw parry

[polar nexus]

srsly?

[twin wagon]

We already dropped 3%

over a decision by the german gov

[mild yoke]

Also the ogryn """""nerf""""" situation is crazy

[polar nexus]

...;

[twin wagon]

[twin wagon]

Sloptubers

[mild yoke]

Yeah I've watched a few tanner and mister videos now and I've decided I just dont like them

They have bad and really overly dramatic takes

[twin wagon]

Tanner issue is over-drama and focus on duo/solo content which is like

not the game

[polar nexus]

baiting baiting something

[twin wagon]

Mister E is just informed by the reddit

[stone fern]

man i dont even know what they did to ogryn tree

[remote lark]

tanners also stupid

he wants people to take flesh tearer / lacerate on knife

and shills that super hard

he also hates uncanny on knife

[polar nexus]

that was long ago lol

[stone fern]

they need to touch up the keystones and ogryn base stats

[remote lark]

he still does it

i made an account called 'ihateuncannystrike' and said hi to him on his twitch

im banned

[polar nexus]

lmao

[twin wagon]

lmao

Darcy move

but from a zealot

what a time to be alive

[soft pier]

Can someone give a small explanation as to the strength and weaknesses to each mk of the relic blade

[thorny folio]

this a bug?

[twin wagon]

nope

[stone fern]

unironically tannr is getting less stupid

[remote lark]

mk3 opens with heavy sweeps
mk10 opens with heavyo verheads
they're just mirrors of each other

[twin wagon]

requesitorum now sells good weapons, ish

[remote lark]

mk3 is usually preferred due to faster access to horde clear

but its personal preference

[stone fern]

ive watched some of his updated zealot guide and hes now presenting facts/opinions a lot better

[remote lark]

bold thing to say here..

[stone fern]

i mean it!!!

[frosty herald]

this guide is wrong

[remote lark]

sigh

[frosty herald]

for flak use activated mode

[remote lark]

noobato

[polar nexus]

rong?>???

[remote lark]

it is not wrong

noobato is being a noob

[frosty herald]

and elites hits the crusher breakpoint

[remote lark]

many such cases

actually that's true

frog lied to me earlier

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/qi-rong-tgcf-heaven-official's-blessing-heaven's-official-blessing-gif-2209875822181219446

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rank-level-slap-shut-up-gif-11216210248801321663

[remote lark]

lets kill frog

[stone fern]

cranial

[remote lark]

clad

[stone fern]

does carnial work if you miss a weakpoint?

[twin wagon]

Chill for bark or yamato, decisions

[frosty herald]

yes

[remote lark]

cranial is the only blessing that's a must-have on that weapon

dont even speak

[frosty herald]

you dont lose stacks

[stone fern]

I AM ASKING QUESTIONS

[polar nexus]

so you go elite and?

[frosty herald]

unyielding

[twin wagon]

honestly, why not activate for everything?

just manage ur heat better

[frosty herald]

the slide stab does a LOT of damage

[remote lark]

flak

if anyone says dont take flak

dont listen to them

they're big noob

like noobato...

sigh..

[polar nexus]

ok ok I will take infested

[frosty herald]

lumi is dumb and doesnt use activation when faced with scabs

[remote lark]

die

[frosty herald]

moebian 21st arent flak

[remote lark]

i made a spreadsheet

that says why

[polar nexus]

and push my hordeclear to the limit

[remote lark]

u r noob

and flak is good

[frosty herald]

what if you exlode\

[stone fern]

lmao who pinned wolf boy

[remote lark]

clad

more like

bad

[soft pier]

So there isnt any significant difference with either mark for one to better than the other correct?

[remote lark]

[remote lark]

nope

[stone fern]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

NOW

[remote lark]

mk3 is just easier access to horde clear

which is preferable imo

[frosty herald]

Lumi is dumb and should DIE for his horendous build options

[soft pier]

[remote lark]

SIGH

noobilyato

observe:

[polar nexus]

DYE his hairs

[remote lark]

#zealot-class message

read this @frosty herald

[polar nexus]

LUMI BECOME BLONDE

[remote lark]

rampage + flak lets u hit crazy horde bps

[twin wagon]

Bark I just clicked on your profile, I use dark mode and I'm in the office in the dark to safe costs

MY EYES

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[remote lark]

if u dont take flak

u miss bps on every

single

[frosty herald]

I do not care i use flamer

[remote lark]

immolate yourself...

[polar nexus]

guys, the problem is that mobilty is shit

[remote lark]

taking flaming and relic sword is a sin

[soft pier]

Me spamming different stims in the meat grinder:

[remote lark]

invoc solves that problem

... kinda

it still sucks

x.x

im starting to think a piet ybuild instead of ij just to get faster fotf resets so you dont get chewed up by gunners might be more versatile

[frosty herald]

Lol

[remote lark]

4 slowmo dodges

[twin wagon]

PIETY GANG

[remote lark]

also

its so slow

you can't really max out IJ consistently

4 dodges and slow speed

[frosty herald]

I have 0 issues with greatsword mobility

[remote lark]

unless u play on malice like noobliestato

[twin wagon]

sounds like a skill issue

replaces dodges with corner boosting

[remote lark]

i did for like 2 games

cause im tainted by tacaxe mobility

ive only played taxe for like

at least the last 200 games

[twin wagon]

I'm used to crusher lmao

[remote lark]

erm

crusher through the wall

die!

[polar nexus]

i played taxe, knife and ds for... almost 9 months

so, i am so fucked

[remote lark]

i hate ds and knife feels weird now

[twin wagon]

Should have used the skill compensation mod, spidey senses

[remote lark]

didn't u see what i posted earlier

[twin wagon]

no

[polar nexus]

UNLESS I play like an ongryn

[frosty herald]

Im used to thammer and evis

[twin wagon]

bark, ur assuming I read half of what I respond to

[remote lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1313827163002372116/image.png?ex=67518c65&is=67503ae5&hm=dfa7d4466e093169ad4ac550ff6dad5adef510885b96bb57ef7e0c0fd487c882&

lets play a game called.. Did bark dodge this!!!!

[polar nexus]

i need to enter the rock state fo mind

knife is rock, there is no dodges, only pushing

[twin wagon]

I'm sure you dodged it, you went into the locked gate and screamed for 20 minutes

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jdpm55mXve2BbXvGG?invite=cr-MSxBMkEsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

[polar nexus]

heavy spam is a dance

[twin wagon]

rare bark skill issue, just position better

oh and just un-do map bugs

[remote lark]

"rare"

[twin wagon]

[viscid pond]

Any opinions on the useful Relic Blade blessings

[remote lark]

read pins

or i explode u with my mind

[polar nexus]

what about marty?

[remote lark]

does marty increase movespeed

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-helpful-check-the-pins-discord-mod-toolbox-gif-26640381

[polar nexus]

attack speed yes

[remote lark]

when i said slow

[polar nexus]

no?

[remote lark]

i meant mobility

[polar nexus]

ah well no

[remote lark]

ij gives me plenty of atk speed

although

just me

i HATE weapons that use heavy loops for horde clear

i hate it

but someone said u can light spam the mk10 and it does fine

i might try it..

[twin wagon]

I mean

U can instead just light spam and quick swap on third hit

[remote lark]

never speak again

[twin wagon]

[hearty nebula]

wish soyker had some more melee buffs in their kit

[twin wagon]

with 1 more buff they could 1 shot crushers like zealot

[remote lark]

can't scryers gaze psykers do that

on crit

[hearty nebula]

only on crit

[remote lark]

simply crit

[misty nova]

melee psyker
shoots ranged wave from sword

[jagged reef]

Does blood redemption buff the amount of toughness replenished by vicious offering?

[misty nova]

[remote lark]

whats vicious offering again

[misty nova]

What 50% of 7.5%

[hearty nebula]

i mean hey, if it works, it works

[twin wagon]

Only on a 67% crit chance

Need to be more consistant

[jagged reef]

10% toughness on heavy kill

[remote lark]

no

what that perk does is change the 5% u get back per kill to 7.5%

[jagged reef]

Thanks

[remote lark]

heres a spreadsheet i made showing kills required at each level of tdr in order to get back to full health after taking 1 hit
left is with that perk, right is without it
2 toughness curio

that perk basically lets u kill 1 less enemy to get back to full if u get smacked by a chaff enemy

not really worth it unless you SUCK at dodging chip damage

its even worse on marty bc its based on total toughness and u cant take toughness curio with marty builds

which is counterintuitive cause you'd think you'd want it more on a marty build

... which you do... but its worse..

xDD

[jagged reef]

Yeah I get it's not good. Was just thinking if there's a funky synergy with vicious offering because of 🍝 .

[remote lark]

the fact taht u didnt get flamed for even suggesting vicious offering is more surprising to me

that talents down a horrible tree

[jagged reef]

:^)

[remote lark]

@misty nova what weapons have a light/heavy horde clear looop?

do u know?

i had an idea

[winter furnace]

thing about piety is that you wont benefit from scourge at all so your critrate is alot lower than most piety builds

[hearty nebula]

r...relic blade?

[harsh gorge]

good 2h powersword blessings?

[remote lark]

i think distain might be good on those weapons

if u time ur swings right

[hearty nebula]

1st pin

[remote lark]

troo
scourge sucks on relic blade..

[misty nova]

Dclaw 4

[remote lark]

but its less about the crit and more about invoc resets

[winter furnace]

bigtime sadly ( i tried a piety build as my first actual relic blade build and it was pure suffering)

[misty nova]

Evis3 to some extent

[remote lark]

you take the crit tdr and stalwart and invoc

and i think it makes u less squishy with ur shitty mobility

[twin wagon]

Dclaw cultists, coming out of the woodwork to try and convince me the only weapon that can cancel out boss knockback is good

[remote lark]

i hate dclaw

i think its a bad weapon

just bc you can blender 5 ragers doesn't make dclaw users useful

oooooo mixed horde

ooooooo

[winter furnace]

thats honestly fair yeah

[misty nova]

But does Stalwart stack with Vicious?

[hearty nebula]

dclaw is meh unless you're really abusing the parry as hard as possible

[polar nexus]

Dc7, DS2, taxe7

[twin wagon]

I think dclaw only really fits voidstrike psyker, because u can voidstrike everything and dclaw comes in handy in very rare occasions for parry

[remote lark]

viscious?

the 10% tr talent?

[vapid sun]

what talents are you boys taking over thy wrath be swift

[misty nova]

Yeah

[hearty nebula]

none

[polar nexus]

None

[remote lark]

actually

twbs got changed

twbs is no longer mandatory

[winter furnace]

thy wrath be swift

[misty nova]

Stalwart has unlisted bonus
2% toughness on kill

[hearty nebula]

how so

[remote lark]

gunners no longer stun

[vapid sun]

no more gunner stun

[hearty nebula]

ah

[remote lark]

shotgunners no longer push back

i have been experimenting with the 7.5% toughness regen on kill talent + atk speed on IJ builds, and SOC for huge DR/TDR memes on piety builds @vapid sun

so far it's been pretty fun

ragers also got nerfed

[winter furnace]

i would totally stop using it but my friend drags me into european servers and having high ping with no twbs is painful

[remote lark]

so twbs isn't super important on a fast weapon

[hearty nebula]

do i still get stunned out of thammer/objective interractions without it

[remote lark]

thammer not if u take judgement as much

but yes

[hearty nebula]

that's the main reason i like twbs

[remote lark]

im not saying its a great idea to drop it

buuut

its not mandatory anymore

which opens up a little variety..

[hearty nebula]

im gonna be using relic blade for a while so

[remote lark]

u can take more tdr and dr now

[misty nova]

Oh vicious stacks with base 5% on kill

[remote lark]

which means u can just use ur toughness to eat stuff while u do obj

[hearty nebula]

in my best interest probably to continue using it

[remote lark]

yeah

definitely with slow weapons

[misty nova]

So you get 15 on heavy kill
Yay

[remote lark]

wait really?

[jagged reef]

I know you hate me already but can Punishment be used as a poor man's twbs?

[hearty nebula]

but yeah thank fucking goodness gunners no longer stun

[remote lark]

not really needed

so

with gunner stun gone

[frosty herald]

btw snipers dont knock you back anymore

[remote lark]

the only reason you'd need stun resistance is if u have a slow swinging weapon

[sick sail]

Any recommendations on what stats are important for the relic blade?

[remote lark]

read pins

[remote lark]

but yes

that was always a "thing" but it was a joke

now its ar eal thing

[sick sail]

Ty bark

[remote lark]

u can only get 'stunned out of' heavy attacks

so only consider it on heavy attack centric weapons

[misty nova]

Kuli said so

[jagged reef]

on the way to piety you anyway gotta take punishment so...

[winter furnace]

that reminds me to check out mk2 like i said i would yesterday i almost forgot

[remote lark]

most slow winging weapons dont take piety

in fact

no weapons 'take' piety

i dont think theres a single one thats objectively better than ij

its just that some weapons are still really good with piety

cause tdr memes

stalwart <3

[hearty nebula]

the only two ive seen that are ok with BP are heavy sword and mkxv

[sick sail]

@remote lark It mentions which perks/blessings, but not which stats are important, or does that not matter anymore isnce the update?

[hearty nebula]

but even then

IJ more consistent

[sick sail]

Just returned after a few months hiatus

[remote lark]

here's how you tell

every single weapon in the game has at least 1 stat that does not affect damage

sometimes 2

the correct answer is always that stat

so mobility or defense

or if u have to pick between them, defense

[sick sail]

Sooo mobility / heat management

[hearty nebula]

no

[sick sail]

Gotcha, thank you!

[remote lark]

mobility bc heat management affects ur mode uptime

which is damage

[hearty nebula]

^

[remote lark]

also not all stats are born equal

the difference between 60 and 80% mobility is like

nothing

u wont even tell

the difference between say 60 and 80 damage is HUGE

cause this game functions off of breakpoints

[hearty nebula]

unless its flamer

lol

[remote lark]

ye

its either 'do i have enough damage to oneshot this' or not

and more often than not u need a near perfect damage weapon to hit those breakpoints

[jagged reef]

I really wanna know if there's a chance blood redemption synergizes with vicious offering. Based on all that it looks so potentially "broken".

[remote lark]

he just said it did i think

[remote lark]

i know what ur thinking

but the problem is how chip damage works

if ur not 100% toughness, a melee attack will take a small % of your hp

[sick sail]

Thanks for the help!

[remote lark]

so if u get hit twice between heavy attacks

or a gunner shoots u with 1 bullet and then a melee hits u once

u lose hp

and slowly die

while killing things really slowly bc u have a meme build

xD

this is why 'tank' builds dont exist

[jagged reef]

Love me some meme builds

[remote lark]

the only way to truly be tanky is to just not get hit

but thats not to say it wouldn't work.. it sounds fun lol

okay so

one of my personal favorite builds

is something i bothered cole about a while ago

read this:

[winter furnace]

getting 20% per heavy is funny

[remote lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283692507271790644/1289122347936251905/image.png?ex=6751523e&is=675000be&hm=2bed6f862f2fde8c8c8d1153e0edf6bb9cab410b35f5ca7d810220717145ffce&

i did some calculations

on what the theoretical maxes for toughness damage reduction could be

and the problem quickly became that taking SOC is really hard cause of twbs

but with twbs gone now w certain weapons, suddenly this isn't as horrible

you can even take martyr instead of stalwart

and jack it up higher

[frosty herald]

Furry background

[remote lark]

its my vrchat avatar

i made it

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/turles-dbz-gif-9742184

[remote lark]

uhh

[frosty herald]

I know

[remote lark]

let me find where i did the actual math..

wait

i didn't save it??

UGH

[slender belfry]

Which one is better brothar

I finding some leg for zit suit

[flat iris]

is there an issue this patch? i keep getting kicked from matches due to errors midway thru consistently

[lean lark]

is matchmaking failed 9999 still going on

[misty nova]

If it works and using Kuli's example
It should be 120*(0.075+0.1)=21 toughness
So 17-18% toughness on heavy kill

[slender belfry]

[hearty nebula]

all i know is that 9999 is mostly just happening in havoc

[misty nova]

But I cannot confirm that it'll work

[slender belfry]

Math

[hearty nebula]

ive been relatively free of dc's everywhere else

[jagged reef]

Guess I have to test it after I update mods and get some free time

[remote lark]

okay i re did my math

[undone pewter]

Left

[remote lark]

the theoretical max possible TDR for zealot excluding if u try to get extra with the chorus buff

is 88.19% damage reduction

[slender belfry]

Thanky brothar

[undone pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-bottle-gaming-gif-17128785

[slender belfry]

Zealot player can do math !!!!

[remote lark]

it's 91.73% if u use the chorus buff

even more fun fact

this is barely

enough

for you to regain full toughness after taking 1 hit of damage

with 1 kill

87% toughness is the breakpoint for a chaff to do less than 5% of your hp in one hit

88.19% is...
15% flat from tax nodes
50% from crit tdr talent
25% from good balance
60% from SOC
15% from aura
45.5% from martyrdom

all except tax nodes stack multiplicatively

[polar nexus]

Martyr?

Like martyrdom?

[remote lark]

yes

[remote lark]

in this arbitrary order, here's the graph

let me reorder it from lowest to highest

we'll get a curvy and smooth graph

brain happy..

[harsh gorge]

relic sword is fun

mk x reminded me of execution sword from vt2

[remote lark]

wait

does anybody know

exactly how much damage a mauler and crusher overhead deals?

i wonder where on this graph it falls..

[slender belfry]

1 hit

[remote lark]

maybe to u

paper man

[slender belfry]

I ussually see crusher one hit to player

[remote lark]

260 damage

[slender belfry]

Full heath and toughness

[remote lark]

bad builds

or unlucky

u shouldn't get onehit

[slender belfry]

Maybe Both

LOL

[remote lark]

whats zealots base health and toughness with 2 or 3 toughness curio

does anybody have the numbers

[modern lintel]

ur literally made of paper mache and feathers smh

[remote lark]

wait

zealot can get like

168 toughness

with just two curio i think

[stable ivy]

only 168?

[remote lark]

this has to be wrong

otherwise crushers wouldn't even oneshot toughness

ugh

maybe they have toughness adm

[polar nexus]

172

But you need 2x17 and 3x5

[remote lark]

66.15% to prevent a 260 damage attack at that toughness from smacking u

[frosty herald]

i no joke can tank a crusher on psyker with no health loss

[remote lark]

u can get that just with soc and crit tdr alone

or crit tdr and some other stuff

[slender belfry]

[remote lark]

so

[slender belfry]

How brothar

[remote lark]

theres an actual

[polar nexus]

Soc is not reliable

[remote lark]

i know i know

[atomic fjord]

Boltgun actually is my crusher deleted lmfao

[frosty herald]

one with the warp and endurance

[remote lark]

so removing soc from the picture

[frosty herald]

for a total of 53% toughness damage reduction

[atomic fjord]

I just got one of my friends to buy darktide cause he’s a doom fan and I told him you can have a chainsaw and a double barrel

[remote lark]

theres an optimal (no soc!) breakpoint for stable (non-heavy conditional like good balance) tdr to just survive a crusher attack

which means

hitting about 70% tdr

[slender belfry]

Oh yess yes, wellcome to dảktide

[remote lark]

:V

[polar nexus]

That's peril Dr and?

[atomic fjord]

I’m bullying my friend group into it

[frosty herald]

20% toughness dr when you overcharge on scriers

[remote lark]

wait

you do that for free

LMFAO

[polar nexus]

Good balance + stalwart then

[remote lark]

not even.

[polar nexus]

???

[remote lark]

stalwart + base tax node + crit tdr talent

far exceed it

u can do it without stalwart

base tax nodes + crit tdr + aura

is enough

theres no way this is real

[remote lark]

Crusher HAS to have hidden toughness adm

or this makes no sense

[atomic fjord]

I got one of my friends to get this game cause of this clip

[polar nexus]

Like sniper

[remote lark]

yeah

[polar nexus]

@sterile basalt

Plz I invoke you Shub Niggupath

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jdc7kemqXbiju5L5Z?invite=cr-MSxCaUcsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

[twin wagon]

I invoke you nuffle, enlighten this bs system

[slender belfry]

Your name

I think i meet you one before

[atomic fjord]

I’m John darktide

[twin wagon]

I know it took a lot of restraint, but great job on the recovery

[remote lark]

u noticed

[misty nova]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17ytif5/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/

[atomic fjord]

What was I playing lol

[slender belfry]

Zealot

[atomic fjord]

Lmfao hiiii was i low level

This is the name of my zealot

[slender belfry]

You on NA sever ?

[atomic fjord]

Yes sur

[slender belfry]

Oh shiet

You got dopperganger

xD i play on asia

[atomic fjord]

Pft fuck yea

Not surprised

[remote lark]

AHA

[atomic fjord]

John darktide is semi common for a meme name

[remote lark]

i was using the sweep value

not the overhead

NOW it makes more sense

[slender belfry]

He got same name like you

[remote lark]

crusher overhead is 416 damage.

that's a much taller order

:V

also 2x toughness damage

[slender belfry]

Mamamia

[remote lark]

yeesh

lets see here

[atomic fjord]

Had a match yesterday John and Dr darktide

[tidal berry]

what are the opinions on blessings for the big rod

[polar nexus]

Pin

[hallow summit]

cranial rampage or cranial heatsync

[atomic fjord]

My fav is I had a match w two people I assume they were friends one was playing an ogryn named fart smella, other was playing a psyker named smart fella

💀

[hallow summit]

heatsync for spamming rampage for dmg (wrath in higher stuff for cleave)

im talking higher like havoc

[burnt folio]

Can ye good players tell a wee lad what be the good dump stat upon yon hammer?

[hallow summit]

defense

[misty nova]

Defences

[atomic fjord]

Oh wait actually

[burnt folio]

Hmmmmmm
Alrighty, if the council decrees

[atomic fjord]

So I rolled a heavy eviscarotor the dump stat is the chainsword one

[hallow summit]

and blessing are slaughter/thrust

[frosty herald]

I had a dude that had pox gas for a havoc modifier

Thats so evil

[atomic fjord]

The rev up one or whatever it’s called

Is that good

[hallow summit]

for chain stuff? not really i dont use it

[remote lark]

So to tank a crusher overhead @ toughness 836 damage due to the 2x adm, you'd need 79.6% damage reduction.

Without soc you'd either need good balance + stalwart + crit procced to just eat an overhead without taking maybe more than 50 damage

realistically

you need soc

[atomic fjord]

The dump stat is shredder

[molten isle]

wait the mk12 chainaxe is better than the 4 what the hell

[atomic fjord]

I missspoke

Is that good

[hallow summit]

NO

[remote lark]

no

[atomic fjord]

😭

[polar nexus]

No

[remote lark]

defense is ur dump stat on chainaxe iirc

[atomic fjord]

What should the dump stat be

[misty nova]

Do not dump Shredder on a heavy Eviscerator

[hallow summit]

i thihnk they doing evis

[molten isle]

always mobility or defences lole!!!!!!

[remote lark]

oh evis

mobility

[atomic fjord]

Which one them

LMFAO

[hallow summit]

mobility

[polar nexus]

Cleave

[remote lark]

shut the fuck up k33t

[burnt folio]

Doable with Martyrdom? Shall not fall node of course

[atomic fjord]

Ty chat

[polar nexus]

[remote lark]

if u take martyrdom u better fucking hope it's doable

l m f a o

u dont have alot of hp to uh

miscalculate with

[hallow summit]

i can tank one singular crusher overhead but it takes my whole bar of toughness and a lil health

[remote lark]

you guys

[burnt folio]

I do 1000 calculations a second and they're all wrong

[remote lark]

theres an even easier way actually

to tank a crusher overhead

and u can do it with

no tdr at all!

[hallow summit]

i figure cause i do it on accident all the time

[burnt folio]

Until death go brrrt

[remote lark]

like this!

[hallow summit]

oh i see

[remote lark]

[atomic fjord]

It’s called dodging

[remote lark]

eat glass

[hallow summit]

i hope your gma trips and falls

[atomic fjord]

Nah I’m busy eating c[redacted by the holy inquisition]

[burnt folio]

I'm makin a martyrdom build even though twould seem its an undesirable loadout

[molten isle]

i think vet can tank a crusher overhead with yellow toughness dont quote me on this though

[polar nexus]

It can

[remote lark]

svyuslly

with 3 toughenss curio

[lean lark]

vet can tank crusher overheads with infil too

[remote lark]

zealot can tank it without soc

LMFAO

but you need crit tdr and good balance procced

[hallow summit]

martyr isnt bad no matter what some people will try to tell u... however its still mid asf imo

[remote lark]

its only as mid as you are

😔

[hallow summit]

😔

[remote lark]

how r u still awake

[polar nexus]

[burnt folio]

I just want the funny toughness dmg reduction

[remote lark]

u were on earlier when i woke up too

[lean lark]

its 2pm

[remote lark]

i know ur ass is up at like 5am

WHAT

[clever swan]

as fun as it is to do everything and still win...come on

[remote lark]

oh right

i forgot other countries than mine existed

🇺🇸

[molten isle]

i think martyrdom is decent if you dont grief your build and use wound trinkets

[atomic fjord]

Guys peak game

No glitches

Perfect

[polar nexus]

I don't take overheads. Because every crusher is dead with me

[remote lark]

[burnt folio]

For martyrdom, it procs based on wounds not being at 100% yeah? Cuz idk how else you'd get 7 stacks

[remote lark]

[you died to the crusher and your team killed the crusher and left]

[molten isle]

ok you can have 7 stacks

[remote lark]

yes

[polar nexus]

😭😭😭

[remote lark]

hes joking

[atomic fjord]

I HATE KILL STEALERS

[molten isle]

and die to random shit because you have 100 toughness

[atomic fjord]

I’m so tired

Of doing 90% of a fucking enemies health

[remote lark]

hi so tired of doing 90% of a fucking enemies health

:

[winter furnace]

well you can get 9 wounds at maximum so

[remote lark]

no u can't

not on zealot

[burnt folio]

Cap

[polar nexus]

That's playing with a psyler

[remote lark]

wait

soyker gives wounds?

ur lying

[winter furnace]

is 8 max then

[polar nexus]

No the kills stealing

[remote lark]

7 is the max

[winter furnace]

sorry i cant count past 7 i just know its a higher number

[brave plover]

There are drops boys!

[remote lark]

its not

[polar nexus]

Oops I farted blue

[remote lark]

u can't get max buff on damnation

[winter furnace]

ive had more than 7

[remote lark]

bc it takes a wound away

lmfao

[modern lintel]

misinformation hour

[burnt folio]

I still don't get how bleed through works on normal attacks

[remote lark]

oops

[winter furnace]

no im not talking about staacks

[remote lark]

i meant 8

[winter furnace]

im talking about wounds

[remote lark]

8 wounds

7 stacks

[burnt folio]

Is it from getting hit in the arse?

[remote lark]

💀

[winter furnace]

7 stacks total 8 or 9 wounds

[remote lark]

its 8

i know its 8

[molten isle]

more toughness = less damage taken

[polar nexus]

It's E o'clock

[winter furnace]

ok 8 gaming

[vast basin]

8 total wounds only on malice and below

[silver granite]

Hello zellies

[remote lark]

cause on damnaation u can't get max stacks of ur buff

on damnation its 7 wounds 6 possible stacks

[winter furnace]

i forgor

[atomic fjord]

My beloved says you should serve me

[vast basin]

7 wounds on heresy+damn

[winter furnace]

i see

[remote lark]

[winter furnace]

yea that makes sense

[burnt folio]

Me toughness is me shield
But im saying me can be at full toughness and get hit and health dips too

[remote lark]

okay i'm rapidly getting WAY

WAY

too fucked up

to help anybody

im gonna go bed

q.q

[molten isle]

because you have low toughness

[modern lintel]

noob needs sleep

[remote lark]

ur toughness is low

and u stink

colE

[silver granite]

Can someone give me two build? one for auric mael and one for havoc? (zealot ofc)

[remote lark]

havoc nobody really knows whats best yet

[burnt folio]

Hm

[remote lark]

most ppl lean towards high cleave

[silver granite]

I see

[winter furnace]

i heart toughness

[remote lark]

relic blade with cranial/wrath is good there

[burnt folio]

Me shall gets more den

[modern lintel]

im malding on 3hours of sleep past 26 hours

[molten isle]

if you want toughness dmg reduction you can just go this and not waste 2 trinket slots

[polar nexus]

If you ask that question you are not ready

[remote lark]

stop baiting ppl with every post

[winter furnace]

have you tried sleeping 20 minutes at a time spread throughout a whole day

[remote lark]

ur just lying to them

[silver granite]

I have the auric build

[remote lark]

they're new

no trolling noobs

!!

[burnt folio]

I am using chorus :D

[molten isle]

to me youre new too

[remote lark]

thog don't caare

[modern lintel]

i take nap and then suddenly its 12 hours later

[remote lark]

ur opinion is wrongzo

[modern lintel]

everytime

[polar nexus]

Chorus + mobility + Crit CDR with a ds

[remote lark]

stop speaking for several days

[polar nexus]

It's a good start

[silver granite]

DS?

[molten isle]

how about you do that weirdo

[winter furnace]

you have to parry the nap

[remote lark]

stalwart does not replace toughness curios

[polar nexus]

The play is to survive

[remote lark]

immolate yourself

now!

[polar nexus]

Duelling Sword

[silver granite]

ok

[molten isle]

who said that dingus

[winter furnace]

what other curio wuld you even go for whar

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-blunts-dave-blunt-the-cup-i-cant-put-down-the-cup-dave-blunt-falling-gif-2271291953981182253

[winter furnace]

i want all of the toughness in existence

[remote lark]

.

everyone skated over this

[molten isle]

they were talking about stacking wounds for this talent

are you sentient

[remote lark]

trinket slots

[remote lark]

good question

👁️

[molten isle]

yes u get trinket slots for more wounds

[stone fern]

these fucking suck

[modern lintel]

magic 8 ball says no

[molten isle]

or well

[stone fern]

i want them

[molten isle]

people do

[remote lark]

oh i see what ur sayin

[jagged reef]

What is this abomination in my grimdark game?!

[burnt folio]

Nuh uh
I responded

[remote lark]

u suck at typing serraionga

i hope u stub ur toe and fall over

and stub your face

[molten isle]

arent you shitfaced

[remote lark]

who snitched

[molten isle]

go nap or something drunk people are annoying

[burnt folio]

No but I am a shit face

[remote lark]

noobonga....

[lean lark]

this matchmaking seed shit is so annoying

[frosty herald]

4 psykers is terrible in havoc

[remote lark]

are you a psyker in havoc

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25056802

[burnt folio]

But it is funny

[lean lark]

psyker has long range,anti armor, horde clear, support

4 psykers havoc is not terrible

[frosty herald]

only low havoc

[remote lark]

all psykers accidentally throw their shields at once
all psykers die shortly thereafter to gunners

[modern lintel]

i played one w 3 ogryns earlier all red ammo by mid game

[brave plover]

@stone fern@jagged reef They are awful skins, but they are free 🤷‍♂️

[molten isle]

what if its the 4 bravest quell macro psykers

[remote lark]

💀

[burnt folio]

On one hand, Zealot peg leg
On the other hand, Krieg outfit for da Veteran

[remote lark]

i want the pirate hat so bad

and the peg leg

[stable ivy]

thats why you just gotta go full melee build lmao

[remote lark]

[modern lintel]

i was chilling they were crumbling

[burnt folio]

I can only get one

[frosty herald]

zealot is needed for high havoc

[stable ivy]

the leg is dope

[burnt folio]

And ngl im leaning toward the leg

[remote lark]

wdym you can only get one

where do they come from

i forgot

completely

[modern lintel]

ogryns when you take them off the ammo iv and they shatter into a million pieces

[remote lark]

💀

[remote lark]

noobato rich..

share with the poor and penniless...

ill be a noobato grub forever

[modern lintel]

i spent all my diamantine but was able to the make the 3 new wpns atleast and mastery

[frosty herald]

i was pretty conservative with my resources

but both greatswords took 10k plasteel

they increased the plasteel requirement for consecrating

[modern lintel]

i had like 40k steel b4 only have like 5k now

[solar marten]

gang whats the trinket meta

[normal wren]

Feel like the krieg zealot is mid, the others are fine though

[marsh rain]

just wondering

[polar nexus]

2tg + 1tg/stam

[lean lark]

HOLY SHIT

finally

[marsh rain]

so, ive been looking into it and it definitely seems thammer is completely out of meta

that being said i dont really care for meta

[lean lark]

i can actually play havoc now

insane

[solar marten]

is the bright blue numbers a mod too

[remote lark]

24 i think is where cole stopped

[marsh rain]

how does thammer work out with piety?

[polar nexus]

Thammer was never meta

[frosty herald]

Truelevel prestige

[solar marten]

whats tg

[polar nexus]

It had a moment when thrust was bigger

[remote lark]

no.

[vast basin]

its not a crit weapon. go marty or ij with thammer

[polar nexus]

Toughness

[marsh rain]

what makes it not a crit weapon?

just curious

[remote lark]

it oneshots everything without crit just by using IJ and thrust

no point

ij gives better horde clear than piety

[modern lintel]

epic marty thammer moment

[remote lark]

its terrible

[winter furnace]

it also just cannot use scourge at all

[remote lark]

also slow weapons aren't great on crit

cause of that ^^

and slower invoc resets

if u get screwed

IJ is generally better on almost every weapon than piety

its just taht same weapons can still be rlly strong with piety

[cold aspen]

It's not that it was increased, but if you notice, you no longer can buy weapons that are sub-mid 300's, which were cheaper to consecrate. They're now mid-high 400's, which cost more anyways to consecrate

[marsh rain]

i see

[remote lark]

i've been gaslighting everyone who points out that change

there's been like 3 people so far

"hey did they increase the rating when u buy stuff? is this a bug? why is it so high?"

"no its always been like that"

making them forget the 400 to 500 jump somehow

"oh ok"

[marsh rain]

isnt marty just weird to work with though?

just dmg yourself every game

[modern lintel]

if ur noob perhaps

[remote lark]

marty strength directly scales with how good u are

[polar nexus]

IJ has never been buffed. Piety on the other hand

[remote lark]

if u can get through an entire game with only taking slight chip damage

[marsh rain]

i wanna fuck around with marty cuz ive been comfortable enough

[remote lark]

play marty

if u consistently get to like half or low hp every time u reach a medicae

pls dont play it

you'll grief so hard

[marsh rain]

im gonna do ij for now though

[remote lark]

martyr is big noob trap

its like a bell curve

low iq
"i'm not good enough to play marty.. that's scary.."

avg iq
"I'm amazing and I can play marty!"

high iq
"i'm not good enough to play marty.. that's scary.."

[modern lintel]

can u still 1 tap demon host w marty stealth hammer

[remote lark]

no

[marsh rain]

man fuck stealth

[modern lintel]

pain

[remote lark]

it was only barely possible fully stacked with pre nerf crucis

by a margin of like

2.5% or something

i remember @rocky nacelle posted the numbers a long time ago

and i made them block me by saying that ironhelm could do it too and refusing to post a clip while editing all his messages to say he's a furry

[modern lintel]

misinformation moment

[remote lark]

why yes

yes i do believe flesh tearer and lacerate is the meta...

heh heh heh...

silly tannerites.

the scoreboard is mine !!!

[rocky nacelle]

you ain’t built for these havoc level operations son

[remote lark]

i will aim trapper nets at u

[rocky nacelle]

You can’t dodge with a taxe

I can dodge with a force great sword

[remote lark]

u dont even understand

[rocky nacelle]

we are not the same

[remote lark]

right at the end

when we cleared the last event

i looked up just in time to see

a trapper 360 in the air

and then trickshot me while falling

i was about to hang myself

[rocky nacelle]

I woulda tknived it

[remote lark]

you wouldn't have done shit

[rocky nacelle]

lmao cope

[remote lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25056802

[marsh rain]

would i be bringing duelist?

[remote lark]

duelist is mandatory

[marsh rain]

i understand duelist is absolutely insane

[remote lark]

on all builds

[modern lintel]

literally every build ever

[marsh rain]

alright, just making sure

[remote lark]

better question

is just to post whatever creature of a build you've made

and ask for opinions on it

[marsh rain]

fair

[remote lark]

cause as u question duelist

my eyebrows about to escape

off my face

🤨

what else have you done to my poor, poor talent tree..

[marsh rain]

i mean i understand

[remote lark]

leave them alone..

[marsh rain]

im a veteran player

[remote lark]

no more talents 4 u

[modern lintel]

you dont even have eyebrows noob

[marsh rain]

i only recently started to experiment with zeal

[remote lark]

cole

i will wax you

you will look like dorn

4ever

bald...

[modern lintel]

what like your brows

my hairs like

nearly elbow length

[remote lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1305356787901399130/twitter_1855772687664128464.gif

[rocky nacelle]

My style is impetuous

[merry flume]

lmao

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/god-hand-action-comedy-punch-beat-em-up-ps2-gif-16584525

[merry flume]

i fell asleep at liuke 8pm

guh wasted my wholenight

[marsh rain]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9da4f750-7a03-4ab4-8259-5a41925bc7d2

[rocky nacelle]

I’d rather do that than play havocs off no sleep

[modern lintel]

think of all the havok games that couldve been lost

[merry flume]

won't be back home for another 10 hours 😔

[marsh rain]

heres what i created

[merry flume]

gale showed me force greatsword gameplay and i might want to also go soyker

[remote lark]

id personally take good balance insetead of the shitty toughness regeneration talent at the bottom of momentum

but thats actually really good

what weapon is this for?

[rocky nacelle]

I started it…….

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-surprised-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-24182893

[remote lark]

gale also convinced me

[marsh rain]

i want to use thammer and bolter or flamer

[remote lark]

cause i like moonlight greatsword

[marsh rain]

idk probably bolt for now

[remote lark]

good thing gale started this for us

[remote lark]

so

if the weapons wings slow

[modern lintel]

id also do blood redemption over that crit off bleed at the v top @marsh rain

[remote lark]

drop scourge and the crit TDR talent

[rocky nacelle]

good thing fgs is broken on heresy and malice

perfect for you

You might actually be able to kill trappers

[remote lark]

i will remember this...

[marsh rain]

crit tdr?

[remote lark]

ur life will be mine para

[marsh rain]

fair nuff

[modern lintel]

it def is full charge

[remote lark]

just when u least expect it..

ill barrel u

[rocky nacelle]

that implies me playing with you again

kek

[remote lark]

these two

[merry flume]

u got any plans today